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| 00:09 | wizzyrea1 joined #koha | |
| 00:44 | bencahill | okay, I've run Devel::NYTProf on mainpage.pl, and it took about 5 sec, highest is 673ms for DBI::st::execute |
| 00:45 | jcamins_away | bencahill: you'll need to tune your MySQL settings most likely. That seems rather long. |
| 00:46 | bencahill | jcamins_away: could you give me some advice? I'm not quite a mysql expert :P |
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| 00:51 | jcamins_away | bencahill: not much, as it's almost time for dinner and I'm starving. |
| 00:51 | bencahill | jcamins_away: I forgot to mention, this is on a p4 2.5...is this about the fastest I can expect? |
| 00:51 | jcamins_away: np ;) | |
| 00:51 | jcamins_away | bencahill: but, see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Koha_Tuning_Guide |
| 00:51 | bencahill | sweet |
| 00:51 | jcamins_away | bencahill: how much RAM? |
| 00:51 | bencahill | 640MB :-/ |
| 00:51 | iirc | |
| 00:52 | actually, no...it's 1GB | |
| 00:52 | only 235MB in use right now | |
| 00:53 | jcamins_away: I hadn't seen that tuning page before...I'm checking that out now, thx | |
| 00:56 | mtj | bencahill: be aware that you are running a VM on windows :) |
| 00:56 | jcamins_away | bencahill: definitely need to tune MySQL, then. |
| 00:56 | Good luck. | |
| 00:56 | Ohhh. | |
| 00:56 | On a P4? | |
| 00:56 | That's your problem. | |
| 00:56 | * jcamins_away | goes to eat dinner. |
| 00:56 | bencahill | mtj: no... ? |
| 00:56 | wahanui | no is failing unit tests |
| 00:56 | bencahill | lol |
| 00:57 | mtj | bencahill: oops, sorry - i misread my scrollback :p |
| 00:58 | bencahill | I just wanted to see if I could get it any faster atm, eventually will be getting a faster server |
| 00:58 | mtj: ;) | |
| 00:58 | mtj: ironically, I am on windows right now...using putty with a couple of screen sessions :P | |
| 00:58 | mtj | but hay... good to hear that you *aren't* running it in a windows VM |
| 00:59 | bencahill | hehe |
| 01:00 | * bencahill | detests windows, if only for its slowness |
| 01:00 | bencahill | windows? |
| 01:00 | wahanui | windows is, like, a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server |
| 01:00 | bencahill | true dat |
| 01:00 | arch? | |
| 01:00 | wahanui | somebody said arch was extremely simple in philosophy...so the less 'stuff', the better |
| 01:01 | bencahill | well, true dat as well :P |
| 01:01 | I think I'll take me one of the bot | |
| 01:03 | ubuntu? | |
| 01:03 | wahanui | i heard ubuntu was a operating system |
| 01:04 | bencahill | lol, okay, I'm done now |
| 01:04 | mtj | bencahill: re; Koha tuning, try a 1<core cpu |
| 01:04 | bencahill | mtj: that read a little odd, one less than core :P |
| 01:04 | mtj: but yeah, will get one at some point | |
| 01:04 | mtj | and having your zebra database on a 2nd disk |
| 01:04 | bencahill | mtj: why so? |
| 01:07 | mtj | zebra and mysql often get busy under load, a multi-core cpu handles that a bit better |
| 01:08 | same with disk stuff too | |
| 01:08 | bencahill | mtj: gotcha...I might try that, I'm sure I've got a disk I could use somewhere around here :P |
| 01:09 | mtj | have a raided mysql filesystem, and a unraided fast zebra disk |
| 01:09 | ive used that method on prod systems with good results | |
| 01:09 | and run mysqltuner.pl on your box too | |
| 01:11 | but, if you have a Koha with not much data in it, those techniques wont make too much difference | |
| 01:12 | bencahill | about 2k biblios and items |
| 01:12 | mtj | ok, not much.... |
| 01:12 | bencahill | yeh |
| 01:13 | mainly just the p4 then, and not much I can do at this point? | |
| 01:13 | mtj | sounds like a 'cpu is just too slow' problem |
| 01:14 | bencahill | I ran some cpu tests a few days ago comparing it against my (~6-year-old) laptop's athlon64 1.8 (single-core), and the laptop beat it by a factor of about 1.5, so... :P |
| 01:15 | Space_Librarian | right, people of #koha - help! I've looked through the wiki, and I can't find anything... looking for a report to pull "all items with holds placed on them" - do we have this somewhere? Have I just missed it? Help? |
| 01:17 | mtj | reports? |
| 01:17 | koha reports? | |
| 01:18 | Space_Librarian | yep |
| 01:18 | mtj | (thought i might get lucky :) ) |
| 01:18 | Space_Librarian | SQL reports library... |
| 01:18 | wahanui | hmmm... sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 01:18 | Space_Librarian | I love wahanui sometimes. |
| 01:21 | mtj | 'Holds to Pull at Branch' |
| 01:21 | pastebot | "mtj" at 203.97.99.222 pasted "sql" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/240 |
| 01:22 | mtj | something like that? |
| 01:22 | its the 'Holds to Pull at Branch' sql, with the WHERE stuff removed... | |
| 01:26 | Space_Librarian | orly? *has a look* |
| 01:27 | Thanks! I'll try it. :) | |
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| 01:34 | Space_Librarian | Absolutely brilliant. Thanks mtj! |
| 01:36 | ibeardslee | oh hai Space_Librarian how is the new job going? |
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| 02:07 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:07 | Space_Librarian | Ruth! :D |
| 02:07 | druthb | ! :D :D |
| 02:09 | * Space_Librarian | *does a happy dance* |
| 02:11 | * druthb | does a happy dance, too! |
| 02:13 | Space_Librarian | hai there ibeardslee - new job is going! ;) |
| 02:58 | jcamins_away | @later tell wizzyrea Could you please update the front page on the Koha website so that the "Bugs to be signed off" link points to the current list of bugs to be signed off? |
| 02:58 | huginn` | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:58 | jcamins_away | @later tell wizzyrea Thanks! |
| 02:58 | huginn` | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 03:25 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
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| 03:56 | Space_Librarian | right #koha - seeya next week! |
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| 04:17 | mib_yrhs32 | hi |
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| 05:04 | bencahill | g'night, #koha :) |
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| 05:15 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:32 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 05:32 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.0°C (6:29 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising). |
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| 06:36 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:36 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.8°C (7:35 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (7:20 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:36 | cait | hmpf |
| 06:36 | magnuse | brr |
| 06:37 | bbiab | |
| 06:53 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait, magnuse |
| 06:55 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 07:03 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 07:03 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.8°C (7:59 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:20 | magnuse | hiya Amit_Gupta |
| 07:20 | @wunder kautokeino | |
| 07:20 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -28.0°C (7:00 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -31.0°C. Pressure: 30.80 in 1043 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:20 | cait | ok |
| 07:20 | there are places colder than here | |
| 07:20 | only not feels like it right now | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:24 | @wunder drevsjo, norway | |
| 07:24 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -32.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -36.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:25 | alex_a | morning koha |
| 07:25 | cait | morning alex_a |
| 07:25 | @wunder Marseille | |
| 07:25 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -4.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:25 | magnuse | there is another place called Drevsjø not too far from Røros that had -36,5 at 07 this morning - better now cait? ;-) |
| 07:25 | bonjour alex_a | |
| 07:25 | cait | magnuse: no |
| 07:25 | alex_a | bonjour cait magnuse |
| 07:25 | cait | I still don't want to walk to work |
| 07:25 | magnuse | wow, that's cold for Marseille, isn't it? |
| 07:26 | alex_a | magnuse: yes, very very cold |
| 07:26 | magnuse | and houses are probably not built for it? |
| 07:27 | i can imagine the biblibre office being quite cold with that tempaerature... | |
| 07:27 | cait | brr |
| 07:27 | alex_a | magnuse: houses yes but not the people |
| 07:27 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:30 | alex_a | i've installed koha in standard mode for the first time yesterday (:)). But anyone can tell what is the difference between standard and dev mode ? |
| 07:31 | cait | files and directories live in other places |
| 07:31 | alex_a | only sow that configuration files and log goes in /etc/koha and /var/log. but what eles ? |
| 07:31 | magnuse | in standard the files are scattered in different places - in dev you run off a git repo |
| 07:32 | i think C4 lives in /usr/share/koha or something? | |
| 07:32 | rangi | usually /usr/share/koha |
| 07:32 | the scripts too | |
| 07:32 | nothing runs out of the git checkout | |
| 07:32 | because normally you do it from a tarball, and dont even have a git checkout | |
| 07:32 | alex_a | yes |
| 07:32 | rangi | plus running production code, in your home dir = bad wrong and evil :) |
| 07:34 | * magnuse | did that for 2,5 years |
| 07:34 | magnuse | then the packages came along and saved me... ;-) |
| 07:34 | cait | heh |
| 07:34 | we still do... but having git is better than having no git | |
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| 07:38 | magnuse | hiya mbalmer |
| 07:38 | cait | hi mbalmer |
| 07:38 | mbalmer | good morning |
| 07:39 | magnuse | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 07:39 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:39 | magnuse | ooh... |
| 07:39 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:39 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.7°C (8:34 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:39 | cait | oh from 12.8 to 12.7 |
| 07:39 | ... | |
| 07:39 | *sigh* | |
| 07:39 | magnuse | hey, that's up 0.1! |
| 07:39 | cait | time to go |
| 07:40 | mbalmer | @wunder brussels |
| 07:40 | huginn` | mbalmer: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:40 | rangi | thats stupid cold |
| 07:40 | mbalmer | @wunder bruxelles |
| 07:40 | huginn` | mbalmer: The current temperature in Zonnebos, Steenokkerzeel, Belgium is -11.5°C (8:40 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.78 in 1042.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:40 | mbalmer | fuck |
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| 07:40 | cait | not much better |
| 07:40 | mbalmer | I'm going to freez... |
| 07:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:40 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 07:40 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
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| 07:41 | reiveune | hi everybody, I'm on bz4032 today |
| 07:41 | magnuse | bug 4032 |
| 07:41 | wahanui | bug 4032 is completely independent |
| 07:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo |
| 07:41 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:41 | wahanui: forget bug 4032 | |
| 07:41 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot bug 4032 |
| 07:42 | rangi | if someone could sign off on bug 7432 |
| 07:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache |
| 07:42 | rangi | that would be excellent |
| 07:42 | it fixes a really nasty bug | |
| 07:42 | (everything we memoize_memcached was being set for infinite timeout so never timing out .. and getting refreshed) | |
| 07:43 | magnuse | that reminds me i need to try getting memcached set up on my server |
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| 07:49 | magnuse | bonjour julian_m paul_p |
| 07:51 | julian_m | hello magnuse |
| 07:51 | paul_p | hi magnuse |
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| 07:57 | rangi | hi paul_p Guillaume and julian_m |
| 07:57 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p, rangi |
| 07:57 | paul_p | hi rangi (seen your "later") |
| 07:57 | rangi thx for jenkins DB fix ! | |
| 07:58 | @weather marseille | |
| 07:58 | huginn` | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -4.0°C (8:30 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:58 | paul_p | -4°C ! the coldest i've ever seen in 12 years in Marseille probably !!! |
| 07:59 | * paul_p | hope the lemontree in his garden will survive... fortunately there is almost no wind |
| 07:59 | rangi | no problem |
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| 08:04 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 08:05 | rangi | hi hdl and sophie_m |
| 08:05 | hdl | hi rangi |
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| 08:09 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 08:09 | magnuse | woohoo, kf made it! |
| 08:09 | no need to send out a jolly rescue party | |
| 08:09 | kf | had to run from the yetis |
| 08:09 | ;) | |
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| 08:10 | kf | hi asaurat |
| 08:10 | magnuse | kf: and you out-ran them! |
| 08:10 | asaurat | hi !! |
| 08:10 | rangi | wb kf |
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| 08:27 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:29 | kf | :) |
| 08:29 | hi gaetan_B | |
| 08:31 | asaurat | bugs I sent a patch for, and which should be quickly tested: |
| 08:31 | bug 4969 | |
| 08:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors |
| 08:31 | drojf1 | good day #koha |
| 08:31 | kf | guten morgen drojf1 :) |
| 08:31 | drojf1 | moin kf :) |
| 08:31 | asaurat | hallo drojf1! |
| 08:31 | drojf1 | hi asaurat |
| 08:31 | kf | asaurat: a way to make that happen faster is by signing off on someon else's bug |
| 08:32 | asaurat | kf: yes, I'll sign some bugs today, I'm just telling which bugs of mine are easy to test =) |
| 08:32 | kf | fair :) |
| 08:32 | asaurat | bug 7488 |
| 08:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7488 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Errors with logs about moremember.pl / Messaging.pm |
| 08:33 | kf | asaurat: I havet them all on my todo list even I think - only no time right now :( |
| 08:33 | asaurat | and bug 7457 |
| 08:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7457 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , basket.pl makes a lot of noise in the logs |
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| 08:36 | mib_ftvpyi | hi |
| 08:36 | wahanui | hi, mib_ftvpyi |
| 08:37 | mib_ftvpyi | i have few query |
| 08:37 | mean queries | |
| 08:38 | r u free? | |
| 08:39 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:39 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.3°C (9:39 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:39 | kf | @wunder boo |
| 08:39 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (9:20 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:40 | kf | @wunder marseille |
| 08:40 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -3.0°C (9:30 AM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:40 | mib_ftvpyi | Can some 1 help me in koha |
| 08:40 | ?????????? | |
| 08:42 | Amit_Gupta | heya mib_ftvpyi |
| 08:42 | kf | mib_ftvpyi: do't ask to ask - just ask :) |
| 08:42 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf :D |
| 08:43 | mib_ftvpyi | What is library , branches and group in administration |
| 08:43 | what is difference | |
| 08:43 | wahanui | difference is, like, merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material |
| 08:43 | kf | documentation? |
| 08:43 | wahanui | documentation is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 08:43 | kf | you need to configure lbraries |
| 08:43 | you can add groups for some opac search feature, but you don't need to | |
| 08:44 | mib_ftvpyi | that means....internally we dont require it |
| 08:46 | drojf1 | you need one library ;) |
| 08:46 | kf | yep, you must have a tleast one library |
| 08:46 | but don't worry about groups | |
| 08:47 | drojf1 | is groups new? i dont think i remember that |
| 08:47 | magnuse | wahanui: forget difference |
| 08:47 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot difference |
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| 08:51 | kf | drojf1: no, it's really old |
| 08:51 | francharb | morning |
| 08:51 | mib_ftvpyi | amit can we speak on phone so that we can have a better clarity |
| 08:51 | kf | drojf1: I think it once used to do a lot more that it can do now |
| 08:51 | mib_ftvpyi | i think on chat i am not ale to explain |
| 08:53 | kf | magnuse++ |
| 08:54 | drojf1 | kf: ok, maybe i just dont remember because we don't need it. haven't had a look in the actual system in a while |
| 08:54 | kf | drojf1: you hardly get there after initial setup |
| 08:54 | drojf1 | yes |
| 08:54 | kf | you can use groups to group libraries together for search |
| 08:54 | say you have a lot of branches | |
| 08:55 | and want to group them by area | |
| 08:55 | drojf1 | ah, that rings a bell |
| 08:55 | kf | then the library pull down in opac will offer the search group |
| 08:55 | to limit search to those branches | |
| 08:55 | drojf1 | one day we will suddenly expand and need that. i wish :) |
| 09:02 | magnuse | bug 7489 should be an easy signoff :-) |
| 09:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT |
| 09:04 | kf | drojf1: :) |
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| 09:06 | christophe_c | hello |
| 09:06 | wahanui | privet, christophe_c |
| 09:06 | kf | hi christophe_c :) |
| 09:07 | christophe_c | ;-) |
| 09:21 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7286] fix rebuild_zebra.pl to add rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7286> |
| 09:34 | sophie_m | taking http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 |
| 09:34 | huginn` | 04Bug 6199: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
| 09:37 | drojf1 | anybody knows how this was generated? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Kohastructure.png |
| 09:37 | or did nengard do that by hand? (i hope not) | |
| 09:38 | oh, its there in the lower right corner. im just blind, or the pic is too big ;) | |
| 09:43 | kf | drojf1: not sure, it's quite old |
| 09:43 | I think it was not nengard, but perhaps paul? | |
| 09:44 | paul_p | kf ? could you signoff 7432 ? |
| 09:44 | kf | do you know about schema.koha-community.org |
| 09:44 | bug 7432 | |
| 09:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache |
| 09:44 | paul_p | I think I can QA it &push quickly |
| 09:44 | kf | paul_p: not today |
| 09:44 | paul_p | (this bug has been reported by you) |
| 09:44 | kf | paul_p: meeting and too much work |
| 09:46 | and I don't have memcache working here | |
| 09:46 | paul_p | drojf1 no, I don't know how Kohastructure.png has been generated. Maybe some tool from schema.koha-community.org ? |
| 09:46 | drojf1 | kf: created by SQL::Translator 0.07, it's in the picture. thanks for your link, that looks lovely |
| 09:46 | kf | paul_p: I think it's really old - the pic I mean. |
| 09:48 | drojf1 | yes, it's old. 9 May 2010. i was just wondering how to get that kind of graphical output. SQL::Translator seems to be the answer |
| 09:48 | magnuse | i seem to remember zeno tajoli being involved with that graphic, but i might be wrong |
| 09:51 | kf | magnuse: that one is really old - zeno did the schema things |
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| 10:00 | drojf1 | so when are we doing all those video tutorials that are requested lately? ;) |
| 10:00 | kf | lol |
| 10:00 | kf_mtg | will be back later - happy bug squashing :) |
| 10:00 | asaurat | testing bug 6968 |
| 10:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6968 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Show items expired before today in check expiration of serials page |
| 10:01 | asaurat | bis bald, kf! |
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| 10:42 | paul_p | QAing 7387 |
| 10:42 | magnuse | bug 7387 |
| 10:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, Signed Off , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes |
| 10:42 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:47 | slef | is rangi still around? |
| 10:52 | paul_p | magnuse why yay ? (i've transfered bug 7387 to "in discussion") |
| 10:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, In Discussion , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes |
| 10:53 | magnuse | paul_p: then it's less yay - i had hoped it would pass qa, of course ;-) |
| 10:58 | paul_p | QAing bug 7431 |
| 10:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7431 major, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Passed QA , OPAC item hold list doesn't show 'checked out' |
| 10:58 | paul_p | tiny patch, passed QA |
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| 11:03 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 11:03 | paul_p | hi marcelr, and thx |
| 11:03 | marcelr | looking at 7422 |
| 11:04 | paul_p | QAing bug 7450 |
| 11:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7450 critical, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Passed QA , Missing placeholders in admin/authorised_values.pl |
| 11:04 | paul_p | marcelr if you say bug 7422 and not only 7422, everybody will see the bug description |
| 11:04 | * magnuse | looking at bug 7264 |
| 11:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7422 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Prevent creation of vendors with the same name |
| 11:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Display information about library on OPAC detail | |
| 11:05 | marcelr | paul_p: ok |
| 11:06 | drojf1 | i have a perl question. let's say i have '$var1="one"' and 'var2="two"'. i want to print '$var1', the letter "s" and then '$var2', without any space in between, like "onestwo". if i say 'print "$var1s$var2"' the first var name is interpreted as '$var1s', so i get an error. if i use 'print "$var1\s$var2"' it works, but i get "Unrecognized escape \s passed through" so i guess its not the right way to do it. i could put "s" in a var, but that seems like o |
| 11:08 | magnuse | $var1, "s", $var2 |
| 11:08 | i think? | |
| 11:08 | or rather: print $var1, "s", $var2 | |
| 11:13 | drojf1 | thanks magnuse! |
| 11:17 | paul_p | marcelr QAing ... my lunch. see you at 2PM |
| 11:17 | marcelr | bon appetit |
| 11:18 | francharb | lunch time |
| 11:20 | * marcelr | Only 19 in signed off state left.. |
| 11:24 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7450 small follow-up, removing warn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cf920b17d5e2662e> / Bug 7450: missing placeholders in authorised_values.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fe11402eebfa45a01> / Bug 7431: Fixes the display of the due date in opac item specific holds. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p |
| 11:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #613 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 12:09 | kf | drojf1: I think you can do something with {} too |
| 12:09 | ${var}s | |
| 12:11 | drojf1 | kf: yeah that sounds right. i thought i did it like that once. but i tried only {$var}s and that screws up a lot |
| 12:11 | thanks | |
| 12:11 | kf | no worries :) |
| 12:12 | marcelr | paul_p: picking bug 7461 now.. |
| 12:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7461 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , cart offering to remove items when closing |
| 12:12 | * drojf1 | is too old to remember everything :) |
| 12:12 | kf | hmpf |
| 12:12 | bet you are younger than me! | |
| 12:12 | drojf1 | #koha is part of my brain now ;) |
| 12:12 | kf | ok, I can support that last part :) |
| 12:12 | drojf1 | heh |
| 12:13 | slef | drojf1: yeah, I use wahanui instead of a search engine sometimes |
| 12:13 | kf | wahanui botsnack cookies |
| 12:13 | wahanui | thanks kf :) |
| 12:13 | slef | and huginn` is a search engine |
| 12:13 | kf | but people forget to feed him |
| 12:13 | poor bot | |
| 12:14 | slef | marcelr: could you try bug 7476 - should be a quick one I think? |
| 12:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be |
| 12:14 | marcelr | will have a look |
| 12:17 | kf | ok, now part of the lake is frozen... so people start talking about skating |
| 12:17 | brrr | |
| 12:17 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 12:17 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0°C (1:00 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.46 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:19 | drojf1 | kf: on bodensee? is that safe? |
| 12:19 | kf | on part of it, not so deep |
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| 12:19 | drojf1 | ok |
| 12:19 | kf | gnadensee |
| 12:20 | drojf1 | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 12:20 | huginn` | drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.8°C (1:13 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:21 | drojf1 | getting better here :) |
| 12:21 | but new snow | |
| 12:21 | kf | better here too - we started with -13 this morning |
| 12:23 | slef | @marc 300 |
| 12:23 | huginn` | slef: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 12:23 | slef | hrrrm |
| 12:24 | kf | what are you looking for? |
| 12:24 | drojf1 | huginn` knows marc? that might be helpful for me too |
| 12:24 | huginn` | drojf1: downloading the Perl source |
| 12:24 | drojf1 | huch |
| 12:24 | kf | @marc 200a |
| 12:24 | huginn` | kf: unknown tag 200a |
| 12:24 | drojf1 | what did i do now? |
| 12:24 | kf | @marc 300a |
| 12:24 | huginn` | kf: unknown tag 300a |
| 12:24 | slef | kf: that gets labelled as Description by OPACxslt... |
| 12:24 | kf | hmm |
| 12:24 | slef | @marc 300 a |
| 12:24 | huginn` | slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable) |
| 12:24 | kf | @marc 300 a |
| 12:24 | huginn` | kf: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable) |
| 12:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #613: UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/613/ |
| 12:24 | * m.de.rooy: 6964 Follow-up typo borrowenumber | |
| 12:24 | * f.demians: Bug 7355 Note subfields are not displayed in TEXTAREA if hidden | |
| 12:24 | * gcollum: Bug 7431: Fixes the display of the due date in opac item specific holds. | |
| 12:24 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7450: missing placeholders in authorised_values.pl | |
| 12:24 | * paul.poulain: bug 7450 small follow-up, removing warn | |
| 12:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7355 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Note subfields are not displayed in TEXTAREA if hidden |
| 12:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7431 major, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , OPAC item hold list doesn't show 'checked out' | |
| 12:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7450 critical, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Missing placeholders in admin/authorised_values.pl | |
| 12:24 | slef | kf: wondering if there's a better word for it. |
| 12:24 | kf | slef: seems not wrong to me |
| 12:25 | most of the time will be pages | |
| 12:25 | perhaps size | |
| 12:25 | slef | kf: yeah, we've been asked for "Pages" or "Extent". It's not necessarily pages though. |
| 12:25 | kf | yeah |
| 12:25 | slef | door |
| 12:25 | kf | I think making it that would make others complain |
| 12:28 | marcelr | paul_p: looking at bug 7476 |
| 12:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be |
| 12:30 | slef | kf: Description makes some complain. They say that's more like |
| 12:30 | @marc 520 | |
| 12:30 | huginn` | slef: Unformatted information that describes the scope and general contents of the materials. This could be a summary, abstract, annotation, review, or only a phrase describing the material. (Repeatable) [a,b,u,3,6,8] |
| 12:30 | kf | you could do an evil hack with jquery... |
| 12:30 | slef | which is actually labelled on the tab as "Descripton", to be fair |
| 12:30 | kf | but I guess you are opposed to that :) |
| 12:31 | perhaps ask jcamins_away? | |
| 12:31 | or check the labels in other catalogs | |
| 12:31 | slef | mmmm |
| 12:31 | kf | hm perhaps Physical description? |
| 12:31 | * slef | goes looking around |
| 12:31 | marcelr | slef: in the comment of the bash file: This script requires the isutf8 program from Joey Hess's moreutils package. ?? |
| 12:31 | kf | 520 is more about the content? |
| 12:31 | slef | kf: Physical description would be accurate but clunky. |
| 12:31 | marcelr: ha you got me. | |
| 12:32 | marcelr | shall i remove when signing off |
| 12:32 | slef | marcelr: I cp'd another xt test to start off. |
| 12:32 | marcelr: if you don't mind, yes, please. Is the Copyright line correct? | |
| 12:32 | marcelr | ok do that |
| 12:32 | slef | kf: yes |
| 12:34 | kf: hrm, 520 is only labelled "Description" in the intranet, it's Summary and Title Notes in the OPAC I think. | |
| 12:34 | yay, internal consistency :-/ | |
| 12:35 | anyway, they've not noticed that, it's 300 attracting question ;) | |
| 12:37 | kf | I am out of ideas |
| 12:40 | jcamins_away | What about me? |
| 12:40 | kf | slef was looking for a better label for 300 |
| 12:41 | jcamins_away | Physical description? |
| 12:41 | kf | he didn't like that suggestion ;) |
| 12:42 | slef | it's better than "Description" but can we do better? |
| 12:42 | jcamins_away | Not really, no. |
| 12:42 | slef | ok let me see if that passes the library |
| 12:43 | jcamins_away | 300$a, 300$b, and 300$c contain very different information. |
| 12:43 | 520 should be Summary not Description. | |
| 12:46 | Okay, better get ready to go. | |
| 12:46 | I'll be back later. | |
| 12:46 | kf | blue cat? |
| 12:46 | slef | blue cat? |
| 12:47 | kf | blue cat is Chester |
| 12:47 | blue cat? | |
| 12:47 | wahanui | i guess blue cat is Chester |
| 12:47 | slef | madness? |
| 12:47 | kf | hehe |
| 12:47 | drojf1 | meow |
| 12:47 | kf | the cat of one of jared's clients |
| 12:47 | is blue | |
| 12:47 | slef | the second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of your hands |
| 12:47 | the first sign of madness is looking for hairs on the palms of your hands | |
| 12:47 | kf | lol |
| 12:48 | drojf1 | :) |
| 12:48 | kf | so nothing new about me |
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| 12:50 | marcelr | bye koha |
| 12:50 | kf | bye marcelr |
| 12:50 | slef | bye and thanks marcelr |
| 12:50 | kf | yep marcelr++ |
| 12:51 | slef | marcelr++ |
| 12:52 | @marc 005 | |
| 12:52 | huginn` | slef: Sixteen characters that indicate the date and time of the latest record transaction and serve as a version identifier for the record. They are recorded according to Representation of Dates and Times (ISO 8601). The date requires 8 numeric characters in the pattern yyyymmdd. The time requires 8 numeric characters in the pattern hhmmss.f, expressed in terms of the 24-hour (00-23) clock. [] |
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| 12:53 | * slef | ponders that |
| 12:56 | slef | @marc 856 a |
| 12:56 | huginn` | slef: Host name The fully qualified domain (host name) of the electronic location. It contains a network address which is repeated if there is more than one address for the same host. (Repeatable) |
| 12:56 | slef | @marc 856 u |
| 12:56 | huginn` | slef: Uniform Resource Identifier The URI, which provides standard syntax for locating an object using existing Internet protocols. Field 856 is structured to allow for the creation of a URL from the concatenation of other separate 856 subfields. Subfield $u may be used instead of those separate subfields or in addition to them.Subfield $u may be repeated only if both a URN or a URL or more than one URN are (1 more message) |
| 12:56 | slef | blah |
| 12:58 | transcription error by someone | |
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| 13:03 | paul_p | hello back |
| 13:03 | * paul_p | investigates why jenkins became unstable... |
| 13:04 | paul_p | OK, it's a SIP db_dependant test again. Probably something still wrong with datas in sample DB |
| 13:04 | @later tell rangi jenkins unstable again, seems it's something wrong with sample data | |
| 13:04 | huginn` | paul_p: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:05 | * paul_p | heads to "passed QA" patches (by marcelr or sekjal) |
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| 13:17 | drojf1 | what is a safe place to store some extra information in marc21 9xx that does not interfere with koha? |
| 13:17 | paul_p | bug 6984 pushed |
| 13:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Passed QA , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work |
| 13:17 | paul_p | drojf1 any field, except 952 and 942 |
| 13:17 | disclaimer: i'm not a MARC21 specialist | |
| 13:17 | drojf1 | i think 999 is also used somehow |
| 13:18 | kf | yes |
| 13:18 | those 3 | |
| 13:18 | drojf1 | ok i will roll a dice then. a dice with like 97 numbers :D |
| 13:18 | thanks paul_p and kf | |
| 13:18 | kf | drojf1: for Germany |
| 13:18 | there is something | |
| 13:19 | paul_p | bug 7459 pushed |
| 13:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7459 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results |
| 13:19 | kf | drojf1: they divided the 9xx fields for use... between different institutions |
| 13:19 | let me find the safe range for you | |
| 13:19 | drojf1 | kf i found that once. but then never again |
| 13:19 | so i thought i would ignore that ;) unless you know where to find it | |
| 13:20 | kf | http://www.d-nb.de/standardisi[…]ng/pdf/v_068b.pdf |
| 13:20 | 980-999 | |
| 13:21 | formally 942 belongs to bvb and 952 to gbv... but I would just ignore that until you run into problems one day | |
| 13:21 | drojf1 | thanks. you are a good part of my brain :) |
| 13:21 | kf | aaw |
| 13:28 | drojf1 | @marc 952y |
| 13:28 | huginn` | drojf1: unknown tag 952y |
| 13:28 | drojf1 | heh |
| 13:28 | in 952y is koha expecting the media code or the media description? like, 'bk' or 'Book'? | |
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| 13:33 | magnus_afk | drojf1: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C21_Holding_field.2C_3.0.x.2C_3.2.x_and_3.4.x_default_-_field_952 |
| 13:36 | drojf1 | takk magnus_afk |
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| 13:41 | chris_n | looks like PTFS woke up |
| 13:43 | http://koha-community.org/upda[…]e-1/#comment-4452 | |
| 13:45 | oleonard | We'll see. Progress, at least, that they're not pretending no one has requested to talk to them. |
| 13:45 | drojf1 | depends on what that response is |
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| 14:11 | * oleonard | 's pre-commit hook doesn't seem to be working... |
| 14:11 | wonders why... | |
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| 14:14 | * oleonard | finds that neither "git diff" commands in the pre-commit file return any changed files |
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| 14:23 | paul_p | bug "signed-off" list down to 14 ! probably the lowest # since months !!! |
| 14:24 | kf | :) |
| 14:24 | pretty busy day | |
| 14:24 | ok | |
| 14:24 | sanity check | |
| 14:24 | is it being to picky to think a table should have another name? aqinvoices instead of invoices? | |
| 14:24 | aq is the only module we have something like a prefix for most tables | |
| 14:24 | paul_p | kf that's a question we've asked with joubu on the wiki page "DB shema bugs". |
| 14:25 | kf | it's a new table |
| 14:25 | paul_p | kf http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/DB_schema_bugs |
| 14:25 | kf | bug 5339 |
| 14:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq |
| 14:26 | paul_p | kf My opinion is = let's remove those strange "aq" prefix, so don't introduce a new table starting with it ! |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Other things have prefixes too kf: borrower, import, marc, language, tags |
| 14:27 | kf | hm I think I like that they are grouped together paul_p |
| 14:27 | so the prefix makes a lot of sense to me | |
| 14:27 | and like oleonard said, we have some other similar things | |
| 14:27 | and removing from all will be a lot more work, thatn making a new table fit into an existing pattern :) | |
| 14:27 | paul_p | kf I propose: |
| 14:28 | * you signoff the patch if its OK | |
| 14:28 | * you say "sign-offed" but set "in discussion" because of table name | |
| 14:28 | * you set to "in discussion" | |
| 14:28 | kf | no time for testing now - so it will sit around abit longer I fear |
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| 14:29 | paul_p | no prob |
| 14:29 | (maybe set "in discussion" directly then !) | |
| 14:29 | kf | done |
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| 14:36 | jcamins | Good morning again, #koha. |
| 14:36 | oleonard | paul_p: I have a question about your pre-commit hook (http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Tips_and_tricks) |
| 14:36 | paul_p | oleonard yep ? |
| 14:37 | kf | paul_p: and I have a question about data privacy :) do you delete borrowres from deletedborrowers regularly for your libraries? or other regular scheduled deletes/anonymisations? |
| 14:37 | oleonard | It doesn't seem to be working for me, and I notice that the 'git diff' commands used in pre-commit don't return any files |
| 14:37 | * kf | gets into the question queue |
| 14:39 | paul_p | kf nope. And I think/feel it's bad and we should |
| 14:39 | oleonard is your file executable ? | |
| 14:39 | (the pre-commit one) | |
| 14:39 | kf | ... and there goes my hope you had some scripts and experience with it :) |
| 14:39 | paul_p: we work on documents for data privacy... and I have to write a delete concept | |
| 14:40 | paul_p | kf nope. Until now, we just made as if it was really deleted. head hidden in the sand (frenchism suspected) |
| 14:41 | oleonard | paul_p: That was the problem. Not executable. Thanks! |
| 14:41 | paul_p | oleonard I had the same problem |
| 14:41 | ;-) | |
| 14:41 | (and mine didn't worked for months, and I didn't spotted it !) | |
| 14:42 | s/months/weeks/ maybe | |
| 14:42 | jcamins | I need to do a git hook. |
| 14:51 | kf | yeah me too |
| 14:51 | paul_p: that was my tactic too so far... but not getting away with it :) | |
| 14:56 | magnus_afk | hm, when i use the reports "Patrons with no Checkouts" and set the date to 2000-01-01 i get ~400 results. when i give "Clean Patron Records" tool the same date i get "0 patrons will be deleted"? |
| 14:56 | kf | no checkout patrons |
| 14:56 | can be in borrowers and deletedborrowers | |
| 14:56 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6323 -- Error handling cleanup for moveitem.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c0d67cc619608fcb6> / Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]58ff01483890b42d1> / Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koh |
| 14:56 | kf | hm |
| 14:56 | no | |
| 14:56 | ignore me | |
| 14:57 | but it's probably a bug | |
| 14:57 | magnus_afk | yeah, those two ought to give the same result, unless i'm misunderstanding something |
| 14:58 | kf | Imeant that it was checking issues and old-issues |
| 14:58 | and I really am confusing things here | |
| 14:58 | * kf | goes to hide behind her documents |
| 15:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #614 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 18 h ago) |
| 15:00 | drojf1 | @marc 041 |
| 15:00 | huginn` | drojf1: Codes for languages associated with an item when the language code in field 008/35-37 of the record is insufficient to convey full information. This includes records for multilingual items, items that involve translation, and items where the medium of communication is a sign language. The sources of the codes are: MARC Code List for Languages or other code lists such as ISO 639-1 (Codes for the (1 more message) |
| 15:01 | kf | is there a script to delete entries from searchhistory? |
| 15:01 | drojf1 | @marc 041j |
| 15:01 | huginn` | drojf1: unknown tag 041j |
| 15:01 | kf | @marc 041 j |
| 15:01 | huginn` | kf: unknown field/subfield combination (041/j) |
| 15:01 | kf | hm |
| 15:01 | @marc 041 a | |
| 15:01 | huginn` | kf: Language code of text/sound track or separate title The first language code in subfield $a is also contained in field 008/35-37 (Language), unless character positions 35-37 contain blanks (###) or the code "zxx." (Repeatable) |
| 15:01 | drojf1 | thanks kf :) |
| 15:02 | its for subtitles, probably huginn` is more into books ;) | |
| 15:02 | kf | heh |
| 15:03 | drojf1 | so either i am missing something, or the LOC does not differentiate betweent hardcoded and optional subtitles. i cant believe i found something that i cannot code in marc |
| 15:03 | jcamins | For subtitles? |
| 15:03 | The 041 is for languages. | |
| 15:03 | drojf1 | yes |
| 15:03 | subtiltes have languages :) | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | The subtitle goes in 245$b. |
| 15:03 | drojf1 | $j - Language code of subtitles or captions (R) |
| 15:03 | * jcamins | thinks this might be a language issue. |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:03 | drojf1 | subtitles in a dvd |
| 15:04 | *on | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Ohhhh. |
| 15:04 | drojf1 | we have a lot of video |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:04 | * jcamins | was thinking "This is a title : with a subtitle" |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Very confusing. ;) |
| 15:04 | drojf1 | yes i see now :) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | You are correct, there is no way to specify optional or mandatory. |
| 15:05 | * oleonard | finds that the .bashrc change suggested in the wiki's tips and tricks slows down display of the prompt considerably |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Which page? |
| 15:07 | Ah. | |
| 15:07 | Yeah, I'm not surprised that slows things down. | |
| 15:08 | kf | oleonard: there are lots of similar things on the web - I use something else that it much more code but haven't noticed slow downs. hm. |
| 15:08 | oleonard | "10:04 ~/kohaclone (master $% u-15)$" what is the "$% u-15" ? |
| 15:09 | kf | looks like something is broken there |
| 15:09 | jcamins | kf: what do you use? |
| 15:09 | kf | http://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/en/node/624 |
| 15:09 | I have the link at home | |
| 15:09 | but that link is for another solution | |
| 15:10 | mine also shows with a symbol if there are uncommitted changes | |
| 15:10 | using different colors... lots more complicated | |
| 15:11 | http://asemanfar.com/Current-G[…]ch-in-Bash-Prompt | |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | boggles at the number of alternate versions in the comments on that page |
| 15:14 | kf | really, google gives lots of different options |
| 15:14 | only not finding the one I used | |
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| 15:14 | * jcamins | can wait until you're home. |
| 15:14 | isn't at his computer anyway. ;) | |
| 15:15 | kf | wb drojf |
| 15:15 | drojf | oops, i was gone? |
| 15:16 | ah, forced disconnect. thanks, german isp | |
| 15:17 | kf | weird time |
| 15:17 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:17 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 15:17 | * jcamins | waves back. |
| 15:18 | * magnus_afk | waves too |
| 15:18 | * oleonard | waves his hands in the air like he just doesn't care |
| 15:18 | kf | lol |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | oy, is there anytihng in "claims returned" that puts an item in transit home? |
| 15:23 | my understanding was that these functions are utterly unrelated. | |
| 15:23 | kf | hm Ithink they should be? |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | !! |
| 15:24 | why?! | |
| 15:25 | kf | oh wrong answer? |
| 15:25 | I meant being unrealted | |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | OH |
| 15:25 | kf | unrelated |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | sorry I misunderstood what you meant |
| 15:25 | :) | |
| 15:25 | kf | it's friday |
| 15:26 | * kf | offers cookies |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | hee thanks |
| 15:26 | I have a library claiming that another library "put an item in transit by marking it claims returned" | |
| 15:26 | to which I say, bullsh*t! | |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Is "claims returned" a lost status you've set up? |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 15:27 | but marking things *lost* doesn't transit them home. | |
| 15:27 | *people* transit things home. | |
| 15:28 | ugh. yay for involved recreating what cannot be recreating. HEre I go down the rabbit hole. | |
| 15:30 | kf | ok, right or wrong: deleting entries from accountlines that are older than x days/months will throw off the calculated balance? |
| 15:30 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: about bug 6985 |
| 15:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Failed QA , Hide "kw,wrdl:" from Search Results |
| 15:31 | gaetan_B | do you mean chan ging the display of search history list is also a part of this or is out of the scope ? (i was in the process of creating another ticket for this purpose) |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | changing the display of the search history is out of the scope of this I think |
| 15:33 | but a worthy goal | |
| 15:33 | I meant that the "no result" text should also eliminate kw, wrdl | |
| 15:34 | I thought I filed a bug for that... but maybe I didn't maybe I just thought very hard about it | |
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| 15:36 | Guest1440 | LIES |
| 15:37 | paul_p | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | hey |
| 15:37 | paul_p | wizzyrea I got no email from koha-community.org |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | oki |
| 15:37 | one mo | |
| 15:38 | paul_p | wizzyrea + you tried to test a sandbox on test5 yesterday, right ? I made a small mistake, it should not have worked well. Not it does. |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | ohh, wel |
| 15:38 | actually, for the patch I tested with it, it seemed to work ok | |
| 15:38 | :) | |
| 15:38 | but yes, i did create a test sandbox | |
| 15:39 | which I do like very much how it works | |
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| 15:46 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6314 XSL UNIMARC Improvments <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81f13e387586199cc> / Bug 5674: patron name sort ignoring case when placing holds. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc73e11fabc2a0e88> |
| 15:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #614: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/614/ |
| 15:54 | * gcollum: Bug 6984 - Holds statistics doesn't work. | |
| 15:54 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7459 - Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results | |
| 15:54 | * mjr: Bug 7476 Remove executable bit from files that probably should not be executed | |
| 15:54 | * f.demians: Bug 7472 Edit button ineffective when paying borrower fee | |
| 15:54 | * oleonard: Bug 7461 - Cart offering to remove items when closing | |
| 15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work |
| 15:54 | jenkins_koha | * wizzyrea: Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml |
| 15:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin | |
| 15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7459 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Can only add to one public list in OPAC search results |
| 15:54 | jenkins_koha | * lrea: Bug 6323 -- Error handling cleanup for moveitem.tt |
| 15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Pushed to Master , Files executable that probably should not be |
| 15:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #615 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 19 h ago) |
| 15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7472 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Edit button ineffective when paying borrower fee |
| 15:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7461 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , cart offering to remove items when closing | |
| 15:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , move SIPconfig.xml, sip_run and sip_shutdown outside from C4 (NOT FOR 3.6) | |
| 15:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Attach/move items - adding option "try again" after success or wrong barcode | |
| 16:10 | drojf | is it really that quiet or am i just offline? |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | it's that quiet. |
| 16:10 | :) | |
| 16:10 | drojf | ooh |
| 16:10 | ok, thanks ;) | |
| 16:10 | kf | it's friday :) |
| 16:10 | * drojf | tries to wake nobody |
| 16:11 | paul_p | drojf kiwis are sleeping, be carefull, you're right |
| 16:11 | the problem here is that there is always someone sleeping ;-) | |
| 16:11 | drojf | :) |
| 16:11 | kf | paul_p: on the positive side... always someone awake too:) |
| 16:12 | drojf | i'm really tired, i could go to bed too. but its only 5pm so maybe not. |
| 16:12 | kf | students... |
| 16:12 | ;) | |
| 16:12 | drojf | lol |
| 16:15 | i play "find the patterns" to get languages of audio and subtitles out of our old db for the video entries. maybe some more inspiring work would make me less tired | |
| 16:16 | kf | ok |
| 16:16 | I could find some more inspiring projects for you... | |
| 16:16 | drojf | but they will probably not help with our import |
| 16:17 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 16:17 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -4.9°C (5:13 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:18 | drojf | still getting warmer. maybe i try shopping and some fresh air |
| 16:20 | kf | :) |
| 16:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:22 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 16:22 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0°C (5:00 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:25 | JesseM joined #koha | |
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| 16:30 | jcamins | Looks like it's the end of the work day in France. |
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| 16:36 | slef | jcamins: and it looks like it's just work not passion for some ;-) |
| 16:36 | jcamins | slef: heh. |
| 16:41 | slef: BTW, did I tell you we were approved for the co-op? It was a while ago, but I feel like you might not have been around. | |
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| 16:42 | wizzyrea | hey libsysguy |
| 16:42 | wahanui | libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 16:42 | libsysguy | hey wizzyrea |
| 16:42 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE! |
| 16:42 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | <3 wahanui |
| 16:42 | libsysguy | I have a question that will make all here cringe |
| 16:42 | jcamins | libsysguy: oh no. |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | "when will hourly be tested and ready?" |
| 16:42 | libsysguy | I want to try and import and link all authorities on a dev box |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | that won't make us cringe. |
| 16:42 | jcamins | Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 16:42 | jcamins | libsysguy: yes! |
| 16:43 | libsysguy: this is wonderful! | |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | you will make jcamins cheer |
| 16:43 | jcamins | I have good news! |
| 16:43 | libsysguy | oh? |
| 16:43 | * jcamins | does a happy dance. |
| 16:43 | jcamins | Bug 7284. |
| 16:43 | wahanui | somebody said bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen. |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | see? |
| 16:43 | libsysguy | you single handly pushed hourly |
| 16:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 16:43 | jcamins | That's what you need. |
| 16:43 | oleonard | all for the price of a sign-off |
| 16:43 | jcamins | And, look! There it is- bug 7284, just waiting for your sign-off. |
| 16:43 | Can't you hear it? "Sign off on me! Sign off on me!" | |
| 16:43 | libsysguy | haha jcamins |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | I hear a sign off on that comes with "favors" |
| 16:44 | lol | |
| 16:44 | libsysguy | oh boy...last time i signed off on something it got shot full of holes |
| 16:44 | poor hourly | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | psh |
| 16:44 | that's a ginormous on | |
| 16:44 | one | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: guess I'd best figure out the stove, then, so I can bake fudge. |
| 16:44 | * wizzyrea | waits for the shooting to begin re: 7001 |
| 16:44 | libsysguy | signoffs for favors ;) |
| 16:45 | * jcamins | is not above bribes. |
| 16:45 | * oleonard | can vouch for that |
| 16:45 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 16:45 | libsysguy | guess I just have to get on the jcamins train |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | toot toot! |
| 16:45 | kf | only me... I never got any fudge |
| 16:45 | *sniffs* | |
| 16:45 | jcamins | kf: sorry! :( |
| 16:45 | kf | ;) |
| 16:46 | I heard a lot of people talking about the fudge tho | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | libsysguy: in all seriousness, though, bug 7284 should do exactly what you need. |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | really, he's not lying |
| 16:46 | jcamins | libsysguy: chances are you want the LastMatch module. |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | and that's the PERFECT opportunity to test |
| 16:46 | dev server, good authorities, good records | |
| 16:47 | libsysguy | ^^ BAHAHAHA |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea has apparently never seen our records | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | I recommend using link_bibs_to_authorities.pl --link-report --commit=1000 |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | where good = an appropriate challenge for the script |
| 16:48 | is not the same as a "good record" | |
| 16:48 | ;) | |
| 16:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #615: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/615/ |
| 16:48 | * gcollum: Bug 5674: patron name sort ignoring case when placing holds. | |
| 16:48 | libsysguy | ok so the patch failed...is it git am -iu3 <patch_location> to try and fix |
| 16:48 | jenkins_koha | * f.demians: Bug 6314 XSL UNIMARC Improvments |
| 16:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5674 minor, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , Staff client - placing holds - patron name sort not ignoring letter case |
| 16:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6314 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , UNIMARC OPAC XSL improvements | |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | yeap |
| 16:48 | well I don't use the u | |
| 16:48 | what's the u again? | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | unified. |
| 16:49 | * jcamins | always uses it. |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 16:49 | libsysguy | cpoy pasta from a rangi recommendation |
| 16:49 | francharb_lunch | see ya |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Sure doesn't take long for the code to not apply to master. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 16:50 | I have had to do several lately where some minor merge things needed to be done before I could test | |
| 16:50 | (updatedatabase, sysprefs, silly lil stuff) | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Probably sysprefs. |
| 16:51 | * jcamins | uses atomicupdate because updatedatabase conflicts irritate him. |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | most likely |
| 16:52 | libsysguy | yeah thats what it was |
| 16:52 | whitespace | |
| 16:52 | and a syspref file | |
| 16:52 | wahanui | a syspref file is only one that ever changes |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | ez to fix :) |
| 16:52 | libsysguy | exactly |
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| 16:52 | wizzyrea | hi melia |
| 16:52 | melia | good morning |
| 16:53 | jcamins | libsysguy: since you applied that by hand, you'll probably need to run: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1 |
| 16:54 | libsysguy | gracias sir |
| 16:54 | in sysprefs.sql | |
| 16:54 | do I need to run that as well? | |
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| 16:54 | jcamins | You need to run the atomicupdate because you applied the patch by hand, not as part of a regular update. |
| 16:54 | You don't need to do anything other than fix the conflict in sysprefs.sql. | |
| 16:55 | libsysguy | understood |
| 16:55 | sysprefs.sql is new for me lol | |
| 16:55 | i think it is anyway | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | link_bibs_to_authorities.pl will take a while to run. |
| 16:57 | Oh, be sure to pipe the output into a file. | |
| 16:57 | Running it on an average (large) public library's database produces a 10MB report. | |
| 16:58 | slef | jcamins: nope, that's news to me. |
| 16:58 | jcamins: still seems like the whole NY co-op housing needs some questions asked about its values and principles though ;) | |
| 16:58 | jcamins | slef: yeah, we were approved a while ago, actually. |
| 16:58 | Agreed. | |
| 17:00 | slef | ask them what they're doing to celebrate 2012.coop? ;-) |
| 17:00 | jcamins | slef: nothing, I'm pretty sure. |
| 17:02 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: just catching up with your answer! I didn't find anything about this and went ahead and created the bug. It's linked to the search reasults one. |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | cool, thanks :) |
| 17:03 | gaetan_B | bye everyone, have a nice week end! |
| 17:06 | libsysguy | this may be a dumb question but do you import authorities just like a regular import? |
| 17:06 | jcamins | libsysguy: use bulkmarcimport.pl -a |
| 17:06 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 17:07 | jcamins | This reminds me. I need to add an authority import interface to my list of proposed enhancements. |
| 17:07 | kf | :) |
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| 17:07 | * wizzyrea | whispers teeesssssttttt plaaaaaaan |
| 17:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: oh, yes! |
| 17:08 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | for us dummies who don't do authorities every day. ;) |
| 17:08 | jcamins | Sorry, I haven't actually turned my computer on at home since... |
| 17:08 | Sunday. | |
| 17:08 | Morning. | |
| 17:08 | libsysguy | 0_0 how do you live man |
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| 17:08 | jcamins | libsysguy: it's glorious. |
| 17:08 | Well, I turned my computer on briefly last night. I sent a bunch of invoices, then turned it off. | |
| 17:09 | oleonard | Cheater. |
| 17:09 | jcamins | oleonard: I forgot about that. |
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| 17:11 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 17:11 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the message that just came through the list. |
| 17:12 | libsysguy | seen druthb |
| 17:12 | wahanui | druthb was last seen on #koha 15 hours, 26 seconds ago, saying: does a happy dance, too! [Fri Feb 3 02:11:43 2012] |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | the video one? |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Is it not worthy of a "wow"? |
| 17:12 | kf | wow ? |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | there's a lot of wow in the list today. |
| 17:15 | rangi | make me a video |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | sudo make me a video |
| 17:15 | rangi | why you not make me one |
| 17:16 | oleonard | I'm thinking the solution to Bug 7493 is a foreign key constraint on biblionumber and borrowernumber? |
| 17:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" |
| 17:17 | kf | so you will delete the comments with the borrower? |
| 17:17 | I was thinking about that today | |
| 17:18 | hdl | one could also NULLIFY the borrowernumber |
| 17:18 | See ya | |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | ^^ this is what I was thinking |
| 17:18 | and have the display be "Unknown commenter" or "anonymous commenter" | |
| 17:19 | depends on if you want to preserve the comment or not | |
| 17:19 | * jcamins | thinks his prices might be prohibitive for that task. |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | or just "library patron" |
| 17:19 | "library patron says blah blah blah" | |
| 17:19 | s/says/said/ | |
| 17:20 | oleonard | "A dearly departed library patron" |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | I approve of the fact that we actually have to solve this problem - means people are using comments! |
| 17:20 | oleonard | Someone somewhere... |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | lol: http://evilrouters.net/achievement-unlocked/ |
| 17:24 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:24 | Lunch time. | |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | finally an achievement system that I don't have to work too hard to get all of them. |
| 17:35 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:35 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.4°C (6:34 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:35 | kf | eew |
| 17:35 | wizzyrea | brr |
| 17:35 | @wunder lawrence ks | |
| 17:35 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 7.6°C (11:35 AM CST on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:35 | libsysguy | all authorities imported |
| 17:35 | slef | mmmm nice |
| 17:35 | libsysguy | TO THE LINKER!! |
| 17:35 | kf | lol |
| 17:35 | slef | I'm not going to Germany soon but I know someone who is. |
| 17:35 | kf | it's cold |
| 17:35 | slef | @wunder EGYH |
| 17:35 | huginn` | slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:35 | kf | and I have to walk home |
| 17:35 | slef | @wunder EGFC |
| 17:35 | kf | meh. |
| 17:35 | huginn` | slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:35 | slef | huginn`: you suck! |
| 17:36 | huginn` | slef: downloading the Perl source |
| 17:38 | kf | bye all :) |
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| 17:44 | oleonard | so if I want the constraint the set reviews.borrowernumber null on patron delete, I add the constraint to borrowers? |
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| 18:07 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | heya |
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| 18:09 | slef | @wunder dersingham |
| 18:09 | huginn` | slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is -0.6°C (5:33 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa. |
| 18:09 | chris_n | let's see how this goes: upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.002 to 3.07.00.011 |
| 18:09 | jcamins | chris_n: yikes! |
| 18:10 | chris_n: I hope you're not doing that on production first? | |
| 18:10 | * chris_n | hides under his desk |
| 18:10 | chris_n | muahahaha |
| 18:10 | * chris_n | watches the patrons and librarians run for cover :-) |
| 18:10 | cait | is there a reason you need 3.7? |
| 18:10 | chris_n | actually, this is my dev sandbox |
| 18:11 | ok, done... | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Your dev sandbox is on 3.03.00.002? |
| 18:11 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.002 to 3.07.00.011" (87 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/241 |
| 18:12 | chris_n | for all you curious folks |
| 18:12 | it went beautifully | |
| 18:12 | jcamins: no | |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | remove items from biblioitems too?nice! |
| 18:12 | chris_n | but I'm preparing to develop over a copy of my production db |
| 18:12 | using master | |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea: well, I need to run the script | |
| 18:13 | but the db upgrade looks smooth at first glance | |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | I did an update from 3.0 to 3.4 not too long ago (before 3.6 was out) |
| 18:13 | chris_n | this also gives me good practice for my planned summer upgrade of the production system |
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 18:27 | cait | :) |
| 18:30 | chris_n | running remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl |
| 18:31 | hmm... an old error returns | |
| 18:31 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Data too long for column 'isbn' | |
| 18:32 | seems I recall that the isbn filed is comma delimited or some such and grows too long for some buggy reason | |
| 18:32 | s/filed/field/ | |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Comma-delimited. |
| 18:32 | That's... | |
| 18:32 | * jcamins | tries not to think about it. |
| 18:33 | chris_n | yeah, I think the issue was fixed somewhere along the upgrade path |
| 18:34 | don't know though | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | chris_n: your production system is running 3.03.000.002? |
| 18:40 | chris_n | yes; heavily localized |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Yikes. |
| 18:40 | chris_n | lots of css, etc changes to the old templating system |
| 18:41 | jcamins | That's not going to be fun. |
| 18:42 | chris_n | I cringe at the prospect of bringing it up-to-date |
| 18:42 | initially I was very diligent to keep it merged with master | |
| 18:42 | but.... | |
| 18:42 | and you know the rest of the story :-) | |
| 18:51 | rangi | slef: you about? |
| 18:54 | are welsh technically british? | |
| 18:55 | slef | rangi: yeah but many like the term as little as I do ;) |
| 18:55 | rangi | yup, figured that :) |
| 18:56 | slef | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]aster/614/console looks to be caused by bug 5327 |
| 18:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---, sam-sanders, Failed QA , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 18:56 | slef | err, failed QA, so why's it in master? |
| 18:57 | didn't spot that before | |
| 18:57 | cait | more than one patch |
| 18:57 | slef | yeah I see that now |
| 18:57 | ok but it's commit 597fabf4f474c52d0c9fc3f9fa9ce0267f6e04e2 which I think has done this | |
| 18:58 | door | |
| 18:59 | rangi | slef: the 3 left attached are the failed ones i think |
| 18:59 | and yes that is the cause of the problem | |
| 18:59 | you can't renew without a patron | |
| 19:00 | im not sure how that ever passed | |
| 19:00 | a patch fixing that would be awesome, or even just commenting out that test until its fixed | |
| 19:02 | * chris_n | boggles.... |
| 19:02 | chris_n | more QA issues? |
| 19:02 | rangi | well, sign off too, i can only assume it works on perhaps an empty db? |
| 19:02 | or perhaps one filled with only sample data? | |
| 19:02 | chris_n | 5200 records and counting |
| 19:03 | this is sooo slooow | |
| 19:03 | rangi | im assuming the test was at least run once :) |
| 19:03 | chris_n | you are gracious ;-) |
| 19:04 | rangi | so |
| 19:04 | bug 7432 | |
| 19:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache |
| 19:04 | rangi | turns out we were using memoize_memcached all wrong |
| 19:04 | but now we know how to do it right | |
| 19:04 | chris_n | doing_it_right++ |
| 19:05 | rangi | we can use it more, and it will speed up a lot of things like that remove_items script |
| 19:05 | cait | rangi++ |
| 19:05 | rangi | (assuming ppl are running memcached) |
| 19:06 | cait++ # for reporting the bug which made me find the issue | |
| 19:06 | i had to read the source code of the module to figure out what were doing wrong which kinda sucked | |
| 19:06 | but hey I *could* | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | remove_items? |
| 19:06 | rangi | free_software++ |
| 19:06 | cait | :) |
| 19:07 | rangi | jcamins: anything that has to do repetitive look ups |
| 19:07 | jcamins | Oh, remove_items_from_biblioitems? |
| 19:07 | rangi | thats it :) |
| 19:07 | * jcamins | wasn't sure what the remove_items script was. |
| 19:17 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:17 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -11.0°C (8:14 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:17 | slef | rangi: I don't know the syntax of that function and it appears to be undocumented |
| 19:17 | @wunder Dersingham | |
| 19:17 | huginn` | slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is -2.2°C (6:48 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa. |
| 19:17 | slef | cait: racing towards you! |
| 19:17 | rangi | comment it out for now then with a fixme would be my inclination |
| 19:17 | cait | slef: you call that racing? ;) |
| 19:18 | slef | cait: well, freezing |
| 19:18 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 19:18 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 04, 2012). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:18 | slef | @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
| 19:18 | huginn` | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is -3.2°C (7:15 PM GMT on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:18 | rangi | day 2 of the sevens today |
| 19:18 | slef | is where I am today |
| 19:18 | wahanui | somebody said today was Black Friday. |
| 19:18 | slef | wahanui: they are wrong |
| 19:18 | wahanui | ...but they is non-xslt, but I will check that.... |
| 19:18 | ...but they are non-xslt, but I will check that.... | |
| 19:19 | slef | madness |
| 19:19 | cait | lol |
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| 19:19 | slef | madness? |
| 19:19 | wahanui | somebody said madness was manyfold - ask me for the second sign of madness. |
| 19:19 | jcamins | second sign of madness? |
| 19:19 | wahanui | it has been said that second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands |
| 19:19 | cait | the first sign of madness? |
| 19:19 | wahanui | somebody said the first sign of madness was looking for hairs on the palms of my hands |
| 19:20 | rangi | heh |
| 19:21 | slef | life is a bot cabaret, my friend... |
| 19:22 | cait: is that the coldest it gets there? | |
| 19:24 | jcamins | slef: thanks a lot. Now I have that song stuck in my head. |
| 19:24 | slef | jcamins: with bot in it? |
| 19:24 | cait | slef: hm not sure |
| 19:24 | jcamins | slef: no, not with bot in it. |
| 19:25 | rangi | speaking of madness |
| 19:26 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/photos/6360370 | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Those costumes are quite something. |
| 19:27 | rangi | yes, it all goes a bit mad for sevens weekend |
| 19:28 | cait | sevens weekend? |
| 19:29 | slef | rugby sevens |
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| 19:30 | chris_n | 9200 records and counting |
| 19:30 | * chris_n | looks around for memcached |
| 19:31 | rangi | heh |
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| 19:43 | fredpierre | I've got a bunch of old fines to get rid of. |
| 19:43 | Brooke | o/ |
| 19:44 | fredpierre | In the past we accepted payments, but didn't match them to the items, so those items still show up on the fines report, even though they are paid. |
| 19:44 | I think I might have found the answer: SELECT * FROM accountlines WHERE amount > 0 AND amountoutstanding = 0; | |
| 19:45 | jcamins | fredpierre: what's the problem you're trying to solve? |
| 19:48 | fredpierre | If a patron's balance is zero, I want to clear all the old items from the fines report, so they don't clutter up the billing. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:48 | fredpierre | The problem is that the manual credits aren't applied to the items in the past. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Then, yes, that will select all the fines that have been paid. |
| 19:48 | fredpierre | Thanks |
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| 19:56 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:56 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.9°C (8:55 PM CET on February 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:01 | slef | I wanted to leave 111 minutes ago :-/ |
| 20:01 | fredpierre | !!! |
| 20:04 | Thanks jcamins - my thought is that this will only eliminate lines that were in balance. it's going to be harder to clear all lines prior to the account being in balance...I will work on it and report back! | |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Good luck! |
| 20:17 | slef | test data? |
| 20:17 | chris_n | cool |
| 20:18 | slef | db_dependent? |
| 20:18 | description of the db_dependent test data? | |
| 20:18 | wahanui: you suck. | |
| 20:18 | wahanui | slef: i'm not following you... |
| 20:18 | chris_n | upgrade went very smoothly, items removed, and zebra reindexed nicely |
| 20:18 | searches work fine | |
| 20:19 | * chris_n | notes that there are a couple of dud records, but they were duds from the start |
| 20:22 | Brooke | sure about that, stud? |
| 20:22 | I can bust up your searches. >:) | |
| 20:22 | slef | the description of the db_dependent test data is in t/db_dependent/lib/KohaTest.pm |
| 20:25 | 952? | |
| 20:25 | @marc 952 | |
| 20:25 | huginn` | slef: unknown tag 952 |
| 20:25 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 20:26 | slef | so the test data has no known barcode? |
| 20:26 | am I reading it right? | |
| 20:27 | rangi | i dont think that data is used anymore by the tests |
| 20:27 | the tests rely on the data that is installed when you choose yes to everything in the sample db | |
| 20:27 | slef | bah cruft |
| 20:28 | rangi | that KohaTest.pm is something someone started, and never finished, so yeah nicest thing would be to remove it |
| 20:28 | slef | so where is the sample db documented? |
| 20:28 | rangi | in the .sql and corresponding .txt files |
| 20:28 | in installer/data/ | |
| 20:28 | * oleonard | loves taking calls from libraries interested in Koha |
| 20:29 | slef | installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_* |
| 20:29 | ? | |
| 20:29 | rangi | all the optional files |
| 20:29 | slef | wahanui: forget the description of the db_dependent test data |
| 20:29 | wahanui | slef: I forgot description of the db_dependent test data |
| 20:29 | rangi | plus all the mandatory ones |
| 20:29 | slef | the description of the db_dependent test data is in installer/data/mysql/en/ |
| 20:30 | rangi | ta slef |
| 20:30 | slef | I think I'm still wrong |
| 20:30 | I'm not seeing anything that looks like sample items there | |
| 20:32 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Setting up foreign key constraints for reviews table" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/242 |
| 20:32 | oleonard | Trying, but not succeeding. |
| 20:32 | The link to borrowers works, the one to biblio doesn't. | |
| 20:34 | slef | the mysqldumps have ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE but I doubt ordering matters |
| 20:34 | what error do you get running it from the mysql> prompt? | |
| 20:35 | oleonard | If I run each at the mysql prompt I get no error. I get an error when running updatedatabase |
| 20:37 | slef | what error? |
| 20:37 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "updatedatabase error" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/243 |
| 20:37 | slef | ta |
| 20:40 | "Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails" is a strange one | |
| 20:40 | same database for both prompt and updatedatabase? | |
| 20:40 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:40 | * oleonard | will try again to make sure |
| 20:42 | oleonard | Oh never mind, now it fails on the command line too :P |
| 20:44 | slef | my thought was that you have a review of something no longer in biblio |
| 20:45 | select reviewid from reviews where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from biblio); but that is an ugly query | |
| 20:45 | oleonard | Ah, that could be, since that's the bug I'm working on |
| 20:46 | slef | ah cool |
| 20:46 | that's why I was confused by it working at the prompt | |
| 20:46 | oleonard | I must have tested it at the prompt when my database was in a different state |
| 20:47 | So any database update to add the constraint will have to look for that conflict as well | |
| 20:47 | slef | I think so. Do you want to junk reviews though? |
| 20:47 | Your problem ;) I'm off to dinner. Happy hacking. | |
| 20:47 | oleonard | What can you do with a review of a book which doesn't exist anymore? |
| 20:48 | * oleonard | is open to suggestions, but is leaving now too |
| 20:48 | slef | attach it to a new edition of the right book manually |
| 20:48 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:48 | slef | Oh and if anyone can tell me where the db_dependent sample item data is, that would be cool. |
| 20:48 | jcamins | Bye. |
| 20:49 | nengard | looking for my report gurus to provide a bit of help here ? "I need a report that lists titles that have ONLY 1 item and the status of that item is Withdrawn." |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
| 20:59 | rangi | not sure it has any slef |
| 20:59 | but it has itemtypes and all the things needed to create one | |
| 20:59 | the tests for biblio create a biblio, then remove it again at the end | |
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| 21:18 | maximep | having a weird problem bug 6634 |
| 21:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6634 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, ASSIGNED , manager_id not populated when paying fines |
| 21:18 | maximep | the patch seems to have been pushed in 3.6... in part |
| 21:18 | $manager_id is created.... but never used | |
| 21:18 | :S | |
| 21:19 | maybe it was reverted... hmmmm | |
| 21:21 | cait | maximep: I think it was used when paying, but not when writing off |
| 21:21 | or the other way round | |
| 21:21 | I remember testing it, or perhaps it broke again | |
| 21:22 | maximep | writeoff is in 6718 |
| 21:22 | writeoff is in bug 6718 | |
| 21:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6718 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , No manager_id saved for writeoff of fines |
| 21:23 | maximep | it broke again :/ |
| 21:23 | will post in bugs | |
| 21:25 | aaaah | |
| 21:25 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0825f43bd8592d109 | |
| 21:26 | oh, it's from someone at libeo haha | |
| 21:26 | but it was a very old patch | |
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| 22:21 | * drojf | puts some cold beers in #koha. weekend :) |
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| 22:30 | druthb | o/ |
| 22:31 | drojf | hi druthb take a beer before it gets warm. or the tumbleweed takes it all ;) |
| 22:32 | * druthb | says "no thanks" to the beer, and pours herself a double shot of something stronger. |
| 22:33 | drojf | cheers |
| 22:34 | * druthb | raises her glass. |
| 22:35 | drojf | *clink* |
| 22:46 | wahanui: botsnack beer | |
| 22:46 | wahanui | thanks drojf :) |
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