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| 01:42 | wajasu | i want to try to patch bug 2246. a couple of folks tried the one line change, but had a problem generating the PDF. I don't know why it worked for me. Maybe I need to try against a target set of versioned components (perl, cpan modules, koha). |
| 01:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters |
| 01:43 | wajasu | should i set up a git clone dev environment against master? |
| 01:43 | eythian | yes |
| 01:43 | wajasu | should i be on a debian distro? |
| 01:43 | eythian | It's easier that way |
| 01:43 | wajasu | i'm on archlinux. |
| 01:44 | eythian | The distro itself doesn't matter |
| 01:44 | just the library/package versions you tested under. | |
| 01:44 | wajasu | might the version of perl matter? 5.12.1 vs 15.14? |
| 01:45 | or must it be 5.8? | |
| 01:45 | eythian | test what you have |
| 01:45 | just, document it | |
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| 01:48 | wajasu | last night I changed one line in create-label-pdf.pl and my diacritics show up for authors now. two others tried it, and got a broken PDF. I wonder if the function, or the version of PDF::Reuse I am using is newer. |
| 01:48 | eythian | It might be. Maybe they did it wrong. Or maybe you missed an instruction. |
| 01:48 | Make a patch, submit it, let people test it. | |
| 01:49 | A broken PDF tends to include the error message, so maybe it broke somewhere else on their system | |
| 01:49 | wajasu | ok. I'll work on making a patch tonight. |
| 01:50 | i know when i applied the fix against my older production system, it did not work, so the fix must depend on some newer 3.4.4 fix as well. | |
| 01:51 | eythian | that's worth noting |
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| 02:37 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 03:01 | Danielle | \o |
| 03:03 | eythian | Φ |
| 03:31 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6937] Change "fines" message on circ page to "Fees & charges" <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6937> |
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| 03:35 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 03:41 | * Danielle | does the wave. ;) |
| 03:55 | wajasu | \0 |
| 04:15 | eythian | We really need an option for date placeholders in reports. |
| 04:22 | rangi | yeah |
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| 04:42 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:42 | eythian | evening cait |
| 04:42 | cait | hi eyhian |
| 04:50 | rangi | hi cait |
| 04:53 | cait | evening rangi |
| 04:54 | bug 6935 - have they changed the policy again? | |
| 04:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6935 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , SYStem preference XISBNDailyLimit preference text error |
| 04:58 | rangi | i think the syspref sets 4999 |
| 04:58 | 499 | |
| 04:58 | by default and the text says leave it at 999 | |
| 04:58 | which doesnt make sense | |
| 04:59 | VALUES ('XISBNDailyLimit',499, | |
| 04:59 | so one of them needs to change | |
| 05:01 | cait | yep |
| 05:01 | there is a nother bug from nicole | |
| 05:01 | let me finish my bug comment | |
| 05:01 | you will see | |
| 05:01 | rangi | cool |
| 05:01 | i was just happy to get a librarian submitting bugs directly :) | |
| 05:02 | cait | and I only wondered what is the correct value :) |
| 05:02 | and I am still not sure - see comment | |
| 05:03 | rangi | The xISBN Web service is free for non-commercial use when usage does not exceed 500 requests per day. Free usage is governed by the WorldCat Affiliate Terms and Conditions. See the xISBN API for instructions. |
| 05:03 | 499 is right | |
| 05:03 | http://www.worldcat.org/affili[…]ces/xisbn/app.jsp | |
| 05:04 | we should stick with what theri terms and conditions say | |
| 05:05 | cait | yeah, seems better |
| 05:05 | rangi | altho |
| 05:05 | cait | or perhaps ask if the terms have not been updated? |
| 05:05 | rangi | http://www.oclc.org/developer/[…]ercial_usage_limi |
| 05:05 | cait | yep |
| 05:05 | I saw that, it's linked from the koha blog | |
| 05:05 | have you read my comment? :) | |
| 05:05 | rangi | yup |
| 05:06 | ok, i say, change the sql to be 999 | |
| 05:06 | its on their site, saying effective immediately | |
| 05:10 | id probably push a patch that does either, as long as its consistent :) | |
| 05:12 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6938] The "Subscription History" public and private note fields have gone missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6938> |
| 05:29 | cait | rangi: trying to add to my todo list? :) |
| 05:29 | rangi | yes |
| 05:29 | :) | |
| 05:30 | cait | hmpf |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:42 | cait | hi reiveune and bye #koha :) |
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| 06:43 | kmkale | using git how do i hard reset a branch back to a particular commit number say cfece89a441d419df29600c659940bdd6b6da67e |
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| 07:03 | paul_p | hello #koha. BibLibre is back to office... |
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| 07:14 | francharb | hello everyone |
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| 07:37 | kf | morning #koha |
| 07:59 | kmkale | hi kf paul_p |
| 07:59 | kf | hi kmkale, how is your arm? |
| 07:59 | paul_p | hello kf & kmkale |
| 07:59 | kmkale, how are you ? You've recovered ? | |
| 08:01 | kmkale | not fully paul_p. typing with only left hand is hard :( for a right handed parson.. |
| 08:01 | paul_p | kmkale, I sent a mail on monday to 3 of the hotels you've pointed on the conference site, to get some information (we are 3 should I book 2 rooms or do you have something for 3 ?) , and I got no feedback from any. Is it common with hotel in india ? Should I wait more or send another mail ? |
| 08:02 | kmkale | better give a phone call |
| 08:02 | usually they respond same day.. | |
| 08:02 | to emails | |
| 08:03 | kf the cast comes off on 17th october. then maybe some physiotherapy. but i am back in office regularly now.. | |
| 08:14 | hdl | hi |
| 08:14 | wahanui | hello, hdl |
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| 13:01 | kmkale | @quote random |
| 13:01 | huginn | kmkale: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011) |
| 13:02 | kmkale | @quote random |
| 13:02 | huginn | kmkale: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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| 13:46 | * oleonard | bangs some pots and pans to make sure everyone is awake |
| 13:48 | * jwagner | hushes oleonard and goes back to sleep |
| 13:48 | oleonard | bbiab |
| 13:48 | kf | bye :) |
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| 14:09 | maximep | nengard: thanks for looking at my patch! Looking into the date format problem |
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| 14:53 | trea | morning Koha |
| 14:53 | somebody want to answer a quick question about DropBox Mode? | |
| 14:54 | as i understand it, the point of the dropbox mode is working on the assumption that the overdue item has to be transferred from a remote "dropbox" to the library, thus granting the item a 24 hour rollback in it's fine status, correct? | |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | that's correct |
| 14:57 | trea | wizzyrea++ |
| 14:57 | hehe | |
| 15:01 | oleonard | Is the label "Tags from this library" supposed to disambiguate whether the tags are part of the MARC record? That the tags are user-added? |
| 15:01 | * oleonard | thinks perhaps gmcharlt is the only one who might have been there when the label was composed |
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| 15:06 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | morning guysyslib |
| 15:07 | libsysguy | morning yoda_wizzyrea |
| 15:07 | seen sekjal | |
| 15:07 | wahanui | sekjal was last seen on #koha 17 hours, 56 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: cheers, all [Wed Sep 28 21:11:01 2011] |
| 15:07 | trea | have a good morning, you will. |
| 15:08 | libsysguy | is it crazy that I read that in Yoda's voice? |
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| 15:10 | wizzyrea | it is *awesome* that you read that in Yoda's voice |
| 15:10 | with that | |
| 15:10 | I give you | |
| 15:10 | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]mxY85VPnPBpoZCjZA | |
| 15:10 | oh geez | |
| 15:10 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITb6rzpTWM | |
| 15:10 | try that | |
| 15:10 | trea | word |
| 15:11 | "turn on captions if understand him you do not." | |
| 15:11 | libsysguy | i feel like rangi should have posted this |
| 15:11 | oleonard | Man, the Yoda of Empire kicks the Prequels' Yoda's butt. |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | HA |
| 15:12 | trea | that is no joke oleonard |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | somehow him being 'nimbler' makes him less impressive. |
| 15:12 | oleonard | I'm surprised Lucas didn't go back and replace him with CGI for the Blu-ray. |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | love it at 2:15 |
| 15:13 | trea | epic giggling solo by Yoda |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | it's pretty great at 2:45 as wel |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | goosebumps |
| 15:14 | * wizzyrea | mentions what while you're watching melodysheep videos |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | you should watch Quantum World as well. |
| 15:14 | :P | |
| 15:14 | * wizzyrea | ruins your productivity for the day |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | *poof* |
| 15:20 | * oleonard | is a glutton for punishment... Working on tags code, wondering if I should take a break and look at holds code |
| 15:21 | is tired of the uninformative error messages on request.pl | |
| 15:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:24 | oleonard | See, if the error message was better it would have told me I had AllowOnShelfHolds turned off. :P |
| 15:30 | rhcl_away | off to LITA, bye-bye |
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| 15:37 | Oak | kia ora dear ones |
| 15:38 | that means all of you | |
| 15:43 | trea | aw, shucks. |
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| 16:04 | wizzyrea | nengard: ok with you if I go through the online help and add a link to the manual to every page? |
| 16:06 | nengard | wizzyrea it is a-ok with me, but I'm about to go through all the help files and prep them for the release so i can do it if you want |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | well, work is easier if it's shared right? |
| 16:06 | nengard | yuppers! |
| 16:07 | go for it :) | |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | okies, then I'll do the links - was just gonna send them straignt to k-c.org/documentation |
| 16:07 | as the search there searches all of the manuals | |
| 16:08 | or I could even do a link to the search results | |
| 16:08 | nengard | search results for what search? |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 16:08 | I guess you missed the fact that I added searching to the manual? | |
| 16:08 | it did happen while you were gone ^.^ | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | Is it "legal" to put a link to a book review in the 856 tag? |
| 16:11 | nengard | wizzyrea i mean what search will you be running? |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | as an example, something like this |
| 16:12 | on reports | |
| 16:12 | http://www.google.com/cse?cx=0[…]qpc1on8&q=reports | |
| 16:12 | nengard | it might be a bit too much info, i was thinking links to the right chapter/section and a search the manual link |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | ya that's fine |
| 16:14 | nengard | wizzyrea ? um ? i broke it |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | broke what |
| 16:14 | nengard | i edited the page in HTML mode and added the 3.6 link but it broke the search |
| 16:15 | http://koha-community.org/documentation/ | |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | nice |
| 16:15 | nengard | sorry ? and what did i do? i just added a link |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | visual editor, probably |
| 16:15 | it happens ;) | |
| 16:16 | nengard | but i was in the html editor |
| 16:16 | that's what i'm saying | |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | but you have the visual editor enabled, right? |
| 16:17 | i.e. you have 2 tabs? | |
| 16:17 | visual and html | |
| 16:18 | nengard | yes |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | that's why it did it. |
| 16:18 | the visual editor always tries to strip out script elements | |
| 16:19 | because it thinks they are unsafe | |
| 16:19 | even if you're in html mode. | |
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| 16:24 | wizzyrea | nengard, something like this: http://screencast.com/t/Uly1iplMW9M6 |
| 16:49 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6940] Add reports library and schema to reports online help <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6940> |
| 16:56 | nengard | wizzyrea signed off |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | yay - more like that then? |
| 16:56 | nengard | sure |
| 16:56 | :) | |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | oki doki - nengard++ for the super quick signoff ^.^ |
| 16:57 | nengard | let me know if you find a funky help file .. there are some in there that i may have missed in 3.4 that i'll want to update for 3.6 |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | k |
| 16:57 | or new things. | |
| 16:57 | * wizzyrea | starts at A and works down. |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | HA |
| 16:57 | nengard | yeah the new ones i've got on my list |
| 16:58 | was waiting for feature freeze :) | |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | yeap, probably prudent |
| 17:08 | slef | @marc 952 |
| 17:08 | huginn | slef: unknown tag 952 |
| 17:08 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21. or <reply> 952 is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]data_fields_(9xx) |
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| 17:42 | maximep | Any comments on if bug 6943 is a good idea and was the good way to do it ? |
| 17:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6943 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Create new budget from a copy of a previous budget |
| 17:44 | sekjal | maximep: I've actually had a couple of our partners ask about that! |
| 17:46 | maximep | this was one of the first feature I did in Koha... and in perl, so I hope the code isn't too bad =) |
| 17:47 | sekjal | maximep: it's too late to get into 3.6, but we can certainly look it over and hopefully get it into 3.8~ |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | yo sekjal |
| 17:48 | maximep | cool =) |
| 17:48 | sekjal | hey libsysguy |
| 17:48 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | speaking of 3.6 |
| 17:48 | hows hourly looking | |
| 17:48 | sekjal | I have not had time to test it any further yet |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | I know that other library in Cali has been wanting to move to Koha but hourly is holding them back |
| 17:49 | JesseM was asking me about it | |
| 17:49 | maximep | I will probably need test hourly loans, but only in a few weeks :/ |
| 17:49 | *need to | |
| 17:49 | JesseM | libsysguy++ |
| 17:50 | Hoping it makes it in to Koha soon! | |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | what testing does it need? |
| 17:50 | libsysguy | just keep poking sekjal JesseM hehe |
| 17:51 | * wizzyrea | protects sekjal - no poking the qa manager! |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | gentle rubbing only. |
| 17:51 | JesseM | :) hehe |
| 17:51 | libsysguy | hehe wizzyrea |
| 17:52 | sekjal | the testing is going to be pretty extensive |
| 17:52 | libsysguy | yeah it needs to be |
| 17:52 | sekjal | a full workup of the new circ rules |
| 17:52 | testing not only the new hourly functions, but that all the old functions are preserved | |
| 17:53 | fines and notices will need to be addressed | |
| 17:53 | the calendar | |
| 17:53 | wahanui | somebody said the calendar was up through the middle of October at this point. We're on one-week sprints, due to some appointments I have here and there. |
| 17:53 | sekjal | wahanui: forget the calendar |
| 17:53 | wahanui | sekjal, I didn't have anything matching calendar |
| 17:53 | libsysguy | yeah there were a lot of changes in the calendar |
| 17:53 | sekjal | wahanui: you lie like a rug |
| 17:53 | wahanui | sekjal: huh? |
| 17:54 | sekjal | any other subroutines that are changed in C4 will need to be traced out |
| 17:54 | to other C4 routines, as well as script code | |
| 17:54 | functionality verified there | |
| 17:54 | templates shouldn't be much of a problem | |
| 17:54 | but will need to be checked for the right data display | |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | well, a lot of that is making sure that stuff still works as it's supposed to with hourly off, right? |
| 17:55 | libsysguy | yeah for those libraries who don't want to use it |
| 17:56 | sekjal | libsysguy: is it syspref controlled? |
| 17:56 | something you can toggle? | |
| 17:56 | libsysguy | no its just controlled by the circ rules |
| 17:56 | sekjal | ah, okay |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | ok, so |
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| 17:56 | wizzyrea | checking everything still works with no hourly rules defined |
| 17:56 | sekjal | the translation of existing data |
| 17:57 | libsysguy | correct wizzy |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | I trust that you've tested *with* the rules, and they are working |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | yes I have |
| 17:58 | with and without | |
| 17:58 | since we have both types ;) | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | right |
| 17:59 | libsysguy | although when it goes into master I would like to make a few usability changes |
| 17:59 | * wizzyrea | had no idea magnus was a robot fighter http://boingboing.net/wp-conte[…]/magnus-robot.jpg |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | I just don't want to put them into this ticket since its already huge |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | you could add the bugs |
| 18:01 | and make them depend on the original hourly ticket | |
| 18:01 | libsysguy | well they aren't bugs...just enhancements :p |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | don't be daft. |
| 18:01 | ;) | |
| 18:01 | you know what I mean. | |
| 18:01 | sekjal | libsysguy: are these for convenience sake, or do the make/break the workflow? |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | file an *enhancement* bug that depends on the original. |
| 18:02 | libsysguy | well I think there could be some confusion on how you differenciate between hourly and daily... |
| 18:02 | you have to type it in...I think it should be a drop down | |
| 18:02 | becuase if i say hour...it defaults to day | |
| 18:02 | you have to say hours | |
| 18:02 | sekjal | oh yeah, that's got to be fixed |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | so even 1 hour has to say 1 hours |
| 18:03 | sekjal | that sounds like weak regex |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | its not even regex...its just an eq |
| 18:03 | sekjal | ... that's even weaker than regex |
| 18:03 | ;0 | |
| 18:03 | what? | |
| 18:03 | stupid shift key | |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | but I only caught that becuase I've been swimming in the hourly code |
| 18:03 | sekjal | ;) |
| 18:12 | f18 | hello! I imported marc21 records into the catalog, but there are no items for the "bibs". could that be a reason why I can't find any record through the search? |
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| 18:13 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 18:13 | wahanui | hmmm... searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 18:20 | f18 | is there a possibility to define the number of items of a record in a tag? |
| 18:26 | oleonard | Why do you ask f18? |
| 18:28 | f18 | i got the work to transform a whole ISIS system into a koha system and I've never worked with any kind of library software... and the only thing I have are the marc21 records from the old system |
| 18:28 | oleonard | What do you need to define the number of items attached to a record? |
| 18:28 | I mean, why, not what. | |
| 18:30 | f18 | i have the tag 300 and the number 1 (for one item) |
| 18:30 | but when I import everything into the catalog, there are no items for the record | |
| 18:30 | thats my question - how can I create items for the imported record | |
| 18:31 | oleonard | Or is you question, how do I get item records out of ISIS? |
| 18:32 | f18 | the funny thing is, there was never a item management in ISIS, just one of the records AND the information of the amount of the books/items behind the record |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | @marc 952? |
| 18:32 | huginn | wizzyrea: unknown tag 952? |
| 18:32 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | @marc 952 |
| 18:32 | huginn | wizzyrea: unknown tag 952 |
| 18:32 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | there we go |
| 18:33 | item info is held in the MARC 952 fields | |
| 18:33 | ISIS may not have kept the info there | |
| 18:33 | but that is what Koha expects | |
| 18:33 | f18 | i understand |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | so, if you have item info in your MARC record |
| 18:33 | f18 | thank you!!! |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | stick it in the 952 and it should slide in like butter. :) |
| 18:33 | with butter? | |
| 18:33 | easily. | |
| 18:33 | :P | |
| 18:34 | f18 | w8w8 :) |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | lol, here's a fun bug |
| 18:45 | well i'm entertained anyway | |
| 18:45 | add multiple items can't do double digit adds. | |
| 18:45 | only up to 9 | |
| 18:46 | put in 10 and it adds only the 1st | |
| 18:46 | sekjal | wizzyrea: very interesting... |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | i mean, that's not a huge thing really |
| 18:47 | just add lots of sets of 9! | |
| 18:48 | * wizzyrea | will just file a regular old bug for it |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | it's not urgent. |
| 18:51 | oooo | |
| 18:51 | and if you do say, 12 | |
| 18:51 | it doesn't even add the 1st. | |
| 18:52 | rangi | morning |
| 18:54 | bus im on is flying a big samoan flag, man I hope they pull off a miracle win tonight | |
| 18:55 | JesseM | Hey rangi! |
| 18:57 | rangi | heya JesseM, how was the mets game? |
| 18:58 | JesseM | it was fun. They had no chance to make the playoffs so the stadium was empty |
| 18:59 | rangi | ahhh |
| 18:59 | gotta cheer your team even when they are sucking, thats the rule :) | |
| 19:00 | JesseM | Yep and they still lost in extra inning |
| 19:01 | * rangi | has only ever been to one baseball game |
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| 19:01 | rangi | that was with oleonard and bg and paul |
| 19:01 | JesseM | well rangi we are going to have to change that next time your over here :) |
| 19:01 | rangi | oh and Nahuel and jwagner too |
| 19:02 | :) | |
| 19:02 | maximep | I wish the Expos were still in montreal so that I could experience it one time |
| 19:02 | rangi | definitely |
| 19:02 | maximep: how about hockey? | |
| 19:03 | maximep | big fan of hockey, like everyone here |
| 19:03 | rangi | figured :) |
| 19:03 | maximep | but it's really hard to get tickets to see the canadiens :/ |
| 19:03 | rangi | I've been to 2 hockey games, one in columbus, one in pittsburgh |
| 19:03 | great game to watch | |
| 19:04 | maximep | saw only 1 nhl game |
| 19:04 | rangi | columbus was easy, cos the bluejackets are horrible |
| 19:04 | maximep | haha |
| 19:04 | rangi | so I just walked up on the night |
| 19:05 | :) | |
| 19:05 | sekjal | rangi: do you have Rollerderby in NZ? |
| 19:05 | maximep | we are supposed to get a team in Quebec in the next years |
| 19:05 | jwagner | rangi, that was a minor league baseball game -- doesn't count! |
| 19:05 | maximep | right next to where i live |
| 19:05 | jwagner | We need to get you to a REAL game :-) |
| 19:05 | rangi | ohh cool maximep |
| 19:06 | sekjal: yep, in wellington too | |
| 19:06 | my kids kindergarten teacher plays | |
| 19:07 | im sure bg will get me to a mets game at some point :) | |
| 19:07 | sekjal | rangi: cool |
| 19:07 | rangi | sekjal: she plays for smash malice |
| 19:08 | I forget her derby name, but they are all funny | |
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| 19:10 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 19:11 | geology? | |
| 19:11 | rangi | maximep: did I tell you I work with someone from quebec city? |
| 19:11 | maximep | rangi: no u didnt |
| 19:12 | rangi | yep, emigrated here about 4 years ago |
| 19:12 | sekjal | several library folks in the area are into it |
| 19:12 | one of our non-library friends just made the team this year, too | |
| 19:12 | rangi | works on mahara.org |
| 19:12 | sekjal: awesome, sarah play? | |
| 19:12 | Brooke | you kiwis |
| 19:12 | turning the world one person at a time | |
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| 19:17 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 19:17 | ropuch | Evening #koha [; |
| 19:18 | rangi | hi ropuch |
| 19:18 | sekjal | rangi: she's considered going out for the team, even tried once when we were in Rhode Island |
| 19:18 | but the she discovered she had mono | |
| 19:18 | Brooke | doh |
| 19:18 | sekjal | put the breaks on things |
| 19:18 | rangi | ahh that sux |
| 19:18 | sekjal | now, it's either derby, or that PhD... |
| 19:19 | rangi | :) |
| 19:31 | Brooke | aww my da told me to think about my cross tabs. <3 |
| 19:31 | ibeardslee | as long as you don't cross the streams |
| 19:31 | * Brooke | giggles. |
| 19:31 | Brooke | who you gonna call? |
| 19:31 | ibeardslee | there is talk of remaking that :( |
| 19:31 | ropuch | Bugbusters ;-P |
| 19:31 | Brooke | ick |
| 19:32 | why must they remake art?! | |
| 19:32 | * Brooke | strikes a Shakespearean pose and sulks. |
| 19:33 | ibeardslee | so they can disappoint the people that remember it from childhood, but get cash out of them anyway |
| 19:33 | Brooke | aye |
| 19:34 | ropuch | You've made it, I'm listening ghostbusters' them ;> |
| 19:34 | Brooke | I can put Car Wash in your head instead ;) |
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| 19:40 | * Danielle | sees she missed a couple sports convos. |
| 19:40 | rangi | there will be more ;) |
| 19:41 | Danielle | Season tickets for the local AAA baseball team here, and some friends are trying to get me into rollerderby. |
| 19:41 | Brooke | those bastard children were mercilessly picking on me lunge last night |
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| 19:41 | Brooke | rollerderby is not a sport for the weak of heart |
| 19:41 | I happily played american football | |
| 19:41 | I look at rollerderby and go | |
| 19:41 | "Nutters." | |
| 19:42 | Danielle | Only reason I didn't do the boot camp this summer was that I had to be out of town for the actual try-outs. |
| 19:58 | sekjal | the Pioneer Valley has one of the best men's derby teams around. I didn't really think much of men's derby until I saw them play |
| 19:58 | unfortunately, I cannot skate | |
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| 20:00 | Brooke | Dani are you skating over the interwebs plug again> |
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| 20:00 | Danielle | Brooke: I think it's like a couple bits on my motorcycle presently - broken! |
| 20:00 | Brooke | teh ohnoes |
| 20:00 | trea | um, wow |
| 20:01 | Danielle | Choke cable went snap a couple weeks ago and the brake pedal return spring became bored with life Monday night. |
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| 20:17 | * Danielle | wanders off - hit-up a coworker about Tivoli commands than off to dinner with my parents to give them the good and bad news. |
| 20:17 | Brooke | cheers |
| 20:18 | * oleonard | wonders off home |
| 20:20 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6633: SCO return button doesn't work <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b380b17f3bf308cb> |
| 20:21 | maximep | wow, been a while since I saw a net split, or however u call it these days |
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| 20:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 451 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:24 | Brooke | ahoy nengard |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6944 |
| 20:34 | huginn | 04Bug 6944: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cannot add more than 9 items at a time |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | that one's funny |
| 20:36 | ropuch | yup |
| 20:36 | Hi wizzyrea [; | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | hi! |
| 20:36 | how are you? | |
| 20:36 | ropuch | fine |
| 20:37 | Struggling to get some more free time to work on translation | |
| 20:37 | Brooke | translation+ |
| 20:38 | ropuch | And I'm convincing one my librarian friend to switch to Koha |
| 20:38 | Brooke | eggsellent |
| 20:38 | ropuch++ | |
| 20:39 | ropuch | Dev install is on, some cataloging already goin, so I guess I;m almost there |
| 20:39 | rangi | wizzyrea: its the js |
| 20:40 | * wizzyrea | will look |
| 20:40 | rangi | the perl doesnt care |
| 20:40 | it will add as many as you pass it | |
| 20:40 | libsysguy | ok so I have something weird happening...I have an item that is supposed to check out for 3 hours...but is checking out for 4 weeks...I thought maybe a circ rule was messed up but there is no circ rule that is set to checkout for that long |
| 20:41 | the item type is set correctly in items | |
| 20:41 | im not really sure where to start looking for a code error | |
| 20:41 | other than the logs :p | |
| 20:42 | sekjal | libsysguy: first, figure out what branchcode/itemtype/patron category are being passed to the circ rules |
| 20:42 | rangi | hmm and i cant replicate either |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea: i just added 12 | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | weird! |
| 20:42 | * wizzyrea | tries again |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | did you do it |
| 20:42 | with a barcode | |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | gotcha sekjal |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 20:44 | libsysguy | sekjal what function is that...it all looks right on the staff side |
| 20:44 | sekjal | GetIssuingRule(), I belive |
| 20:44 | the patron category and item type should be easy to get | |
| 20:44 | branch is a little more complicated | |
| 20:45 | depends on your CircControl syspref | |
| 20:45 | rangi | wizzyrea: was trying 3.4.x ill try master now |
| 20:45 | libsysguy | other than just doing a print from that function ? |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | ok, that is weird, because I just had it work |
| 20:45 | rangi | heh |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | let me try something else |
| 20:45 | rangi | yeah master seems ok too |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 20:46 | try it on one with items already on it | |
| 20:46 | rangi | i did |
| 20:46 | sekjal | libsysguy: verify the patron has their branchcode set properly, that you are indeed logged into a branch as staff, and that the item has both it's home- and holdingbranches set |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 20:46 | now make the last number of the barcode not - | |
| 20:46 | 0 | |
| 20:47 | not 0 | |
| 20:47 | rangi | yep i just did 15, lemme try another record |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | there is some condition |
| 20:47 | that makes it do it | |
| 20:47 | now I have to find it! | |
| 20:48 | because it just happened again. | |
| 20:48 | rangi | 11 works |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | maybe it's only 10 |
| 20:48 | rangi | 55 works |
| 20:49 | libsysguy | hmm it checked out to me fine...and the other patron seems to be ok as well |
| 20:49 | rangi | and i can easily see thats more than 10 ;) |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | bizarre -- i have seen it at least 3x now |
| 20:49 | * wizzyrea | starts another bib |
| 20:49 | libsysguy | sekjal maybe it was a fluke |
| 20:49 | rangi | are you puttingin a barcode? |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 20:49 | oh, let me try this | |
| 20:49 | rangi | i didnt on the 55 one, that might be the issue |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | a completely new barcode string |
| 20:50 | not in the sequence | |
| 20:50 | rangi | i wonder if its jamming cos it hits a barcode |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | it might be related |
| 20:50 | * wizzyrea | tries that |
| 20:50 | rangi | $exist_itemnumber = get_item_from_barcode($barcodevalue); |
| 20:50 | if (!$exist_itemnumber) { my ($oldbiblionumber,$oldbibnum,$oldbibitemnum) = AddItemFromMarc($record,$biblionumber); | |
| 20:51 | it will silently not add them | |
| 20:51 | if the barcode is a duplicate | |
| 20:51 | its plausible thats happening | |
| 20:51 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | btw I'm growing to very much like the new layout on the items page. |
| 20:52 | sekjal | how does the "add multiple" deal with barcodes on the copies? |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | certainly it doesn't add if you run into a duplicate |
| 20:53 | rangi | barcodevalue = $barcodeobj->next_value($oldbarcode) |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | and it doesn't tell you that it didn't add them |
| 20:53 | so that's probably bad. | |
| 20:53 | sekjal | so we need to look at the next_value subroutine |
| 20:53 | rangi | my $testbarcode = $barcodeobj->next_value($oldbarcode) if $barcodeobj; |
| 20:53 | if ($oldbarcode && !$testbarcode) { | |
| 20:53 | push @errors, "no_next_barcode"; | |
| 20:53 | $itemrecord = $record; | |
| 20:56 | * wizzyrea | tries one more thing |
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| 20:57 | Oak | heya druthb |
| 20:57 | druthb | Hello, Oak! |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | erm |
| 20:57 | dumb question | |
| 20:57 | is there a limit to the length of the barcode? | |
| 20:57 | rangi | yep |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | well that explains it then |
| 20:58 | 1. it truncates the barcode, and can't add any more digits | |
| 20:58 | so it doesn't add the items. | |
| 20:58 | rangi | 20 |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | so |
| 20:58 | rangi | thats the db limit |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | if you want to add 10 items |
| 20:58 | rangi | dont start one on |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | don't have a barcode with 19 digits that's gonna roll over |
| 20:59 | rangi | 9999999999999999999 |
| 20:59 | 20 is ok | |
| 20:59 | dont have one with 20 digits that will rollover | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | yes, that |
| 20:59 | is what i meant | |
| 21:00 | I think it dumps them all if it rolls over at all | |
| 21:00 | or if the original barcode is over 20 | |
| 21:00 | sorry I should have looked at that >.< | |
| 21:00 | rangi | could be |
| 21:00 | * wizzyrea | checks that |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | yes, exactly - it truncates the 1st |
| 21:01 | but doesn't do the rest | |
| 21:01 | sekjal | should we have varchar in fields that allow freetext entry in the GUI? |
| 21:01 | rangi | wizzyrea: thats cos all the rest match it |
| 21:02 | cos they all get truncated to the same | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | right |
| 21:02 | and you can't have dupes | |
| 21:02 | rangi | well i don thtink the barcode has to be 20 |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | which makes perfect sense |
| 21:02 | rangi | if someone wants to put a novel in |
| 21:02 | why not let them | |
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| 21:03 | rangi | the diff in storage between text and varchar is not worth worrying about in 2011 |
| 21:03 | it was in 1999 | |
| 21:03 | hi cait | |
| 21:03 | cait | hi rangi :) hi koha# |
| 21:04 | jcamins | rangi: according to High Performance MySQL, indexes on TEXT fields always have to be read from disk, and can't be cached in RAM. |
| 21:04 | At least, I think that's what it said. | |
| 21:04 | Has that changed? | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
| 21:05 | rangi | not sure, would have to check |
| 21:05 | sekjal | how long can a URL be? |
| 21:05 | rangi | but yes if thats true, that would be a blocker |
| 21:05 | in old browser 256 | |
| 21:06 | eythian: would know for sure | |
| 21:08 | eythian | what would I know? |
| 21:08 | rangi | how long can a url be/ |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | the carrying capacity of an unladen african swallow |
| 21:08 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 21:08 | eythian | oh |
| 21:09 | hmm, not sure there is a limit, aside from what webservers can handle | |
| 21:09 | rangi | jcamins: if thats true, that would definitely be a blocker to changing to text |
| 21:10 | sekjal | was just think if people used QR for barcodes and put URLs in there for their item barcodes |
| 21:10 | eythian | yeah, there's no limit in the RFC, IE has a 2,083 limit. |
| 21:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #451: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/451/ |
| 21:10 | ian.walls: Bug 6633: SCO return button doesn't work | |
| 21:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6633 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Self Checkout Return Item button disappeared Renew Item button doesn't work |
| 21:10 | eythian | > After 65,536 characters, the location bar no longer displays the URL in Windows Firefox 1.5.x. However, longer URLs will work. I stopped testing after 100,000 characters. |
| 21:11 | rangi | sekjal: we'd have to check that index thing, since if indexes had to be read from disk, that would hurt circ performance a lot |
| 21:13 | jcamins | Looks like that may not be an issue yet, but joins that include TEXT columns are more likely to use disk. |
| 21:13 | (because in-memory temporary tables can't handle them) | |
| 21:13 | s/yet/anymore | |
| 21:14 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:14 | probably depends a lot on how big you allow mysql to make temp tables | |
| 21:14 | theres a zillion things you can tweak | |
| 21:14 | jcamins | No, that's a hard rule. |
| 21:14 | The MEMORY storage engine doesn't support BLOB/TEXT. | |
| 21:15 | rangi | hmmm |
| 21:15 | jcamins | The index issue applies only in 3.23 and 4.0.<14 |
| 21:15 | rangi | well there are enough text columns on biblio, biblioitems and items |
| 21:15 | that that will already be an issue | |
| 21:15 | jcamins | True. |
| 21:16 | Queries that didn't use SELECT * could cut down on that, though. | |
| 21:16 | rangi | altho, reports would be hit |
| 21:16 | select barcode, stuff | |
| 21:16 | would be slower | |
| 21:16 | but depends again on how big your temp tables are | |
| 21:17 | cos if they are small | |
| 21:17 | you are running on disk anyway | |
| 21:18 | jcamins | rangi: I wouldn't be concerned about that. |
| 21:18 | If you're writing a custom report, just use SUBSTRING(barcode, 0, <your barcode length>) | |
| 21:18 | Bang, no more TEXT columns. | |
| 21:18 | rangi | yup |
| 21:20 | cait | hm? |
| 21:20 | so substring is good? | |
| 21:20 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 21:20 | cait | interesting |
| 21:20 | wahanui | rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 21:20 | cait | hehe |
| 21:24 | rangi | bbiab |
| 21:26 | Oak | oh look cait is here |
| 21:26 | cait | not for long :) |
| 21:27 | hi Oak | |
| 21:27 | Oak | Hello cait what time is there... time to sleep huh |
| 21:27 | cait | yes |
| 21:27 | 23:27 | |
| 21:27 | Oak | 2:30 am here. must sleep myself |
| 21:27 | cait | oh yes you should |
| 21:27 | go to bed! :) | |
| 21:27 | Oak | i know |
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| 21:27 | Oak | good night :) |
| 21:27 | cait | good night :) |
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| 21:29 | jcamins | eythian: how do you change the domain that the packages are using? |
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| 21:29 | jcamins | koha-sites.conf? |
| 21:29 | wahanui | i guess koha-sites.conf is never generated during install |
| 21:29 | jcamins | Yep, that's the one. |
| 21:30 | Awesome, thanks. | |
| 21:30 | Oh wow! I can provide a default SQL file? That's so cool! | |
| 21:38 | maximep | I have a branch with a patch that removes the default framework in the New Authority button |
| 21:39 | I really don't know anything about authorities | |
| 21:39 | jcamins | maximep: why would you remove the default framework? |
| 21:39 | maximep | no idea |
| 21:39 | not my patch | |
| 21:39 | just not sure what to do with it | |
| 21:40 | coworker said that creating a new autority with default framework wouldn't be a good idea | |
| 21:40 | S | |
| 21:40 | :S | |
| 21:40 | looks like it showed an error in 3.2 but now works in master | |
| 21:41 | maybe our default was broken.... anyway | |
| 21:44 | yay, work day is done. Crazy day, but at least did 3 or 4 bug reports with patchs for Koha =) | |
| 21:44 | cya | |
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| 21:49 | jcamins | Does anyone know off the top of their head how to create the default SQL the packages use? |
| 21:49 | Ah, koha-dump-defaults. | |
| 21:49 | Cool, thanks. | |
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| 22:07 | jcamins | Do you have to have AmazonEnabled set to on for AmazonCoverImages to work? |
| 22:07 | I never can remember. | |
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| 22:42 | jcamins | @marc 583 |
| 22:42 | huginn | jcamins: Contains information about processing, reference, and preservation actions. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,h,i,j,k,l,n,o,u,x,z,2,3,5,6,8] |
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| 23:00 | eythian | jcamins: jcamins has answered all your questions |
| 23:04 | jcamins | eythian: yep, thanks. :D |
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| 23:13 | jcamins | eythian++ # the Koha packages are fantastic |
| 23:13 | eythian | sweet :) |
| 23:13 | rangi | liw++ # for teaching us |
| 23:13 | gbarniskis | agreed ++ |
| 23:13 | rangi | we should make liw come to kohacon and talk ;) |
| 23:14 | jcamins | One hour from "gee, I think I'd better set up a bunch of catalogs" to "hey, look at that, it's a bunch of catalogs." |
| 23:14 | eythian | yep, that's why I like them. It's so very quick. |
| 23:16 | jcamins | And that time included doing most of the setup for the packages. |
| 23:16 | I now have a defaults.sql.gz file with just what I need. :) | |
| 23:17 | eythian | awesome. Have a look in the koha-create script, there's a few options in there that are currently undocumented, too. |
| 23:17 | * eythian | lunches |
| 23:28 | * jcamins | dinners |
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