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| 00:02 | rickx | hola |
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| 01:36 | rangi | mtj: you around? |
| 01:36 | mtj | heya, yep |
| 01:37 | wat up? | |
| 01:37 | rangi | can you remember what magic you did for kapiti to get the 3m machine to know that an item was chargable? |
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| 01:45 | druthb | o/ |
| 01:47 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 01:47 | hows tn ? | |
| 01:47 | druthb | Very pretty. It's a long way from Kansas, though. Google Maps is very optimistic. |
| 01:48 | It said, 10.5 hours...so I assumed 12, cuz we'd stop to eat, get petrol, etc...13-ish hours later.... | |
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| 01:58 | mtj | rangi: pm-ed you... :) |
| 02:00 | for the record, i modded C4::SIP::ILS::Transaction/Checkout::do_checkout() | |
| 02:01 | and hardcoded the chargeable ITEMTYPES... | |
| 02:01 | + if ( $self->{item}->{itype} =~ /BKBS|MAGBS|SRP|SRTN|SRTB|VRDVDP/ ) { | |
| 02:01 | + warn $self->{item}->{itype}; | |
| 02:01 | + $needsconfirmation->{'ITEM_FEE'} = | |
| 02:02 | + "Item has a fee, Please take item to the issue-desk to check out."; | |
| 02:02 | + } | |
| 02:02 | wajasu | diggin into unicode creation of labels. found that if I utf8::downgrade($line,FAIL_OK); before $pdf->Add($line), that the FC passes thru and i see my diacritic (this is without embedded truetype font). |
| 02:05 | mtj | wajasu: well done! |
| 02:05 | druthb | wajasu++ |
| 02:05 | mtj | the pdf->utf problem has been an old bug :/ |
| 02:05 | looks like you have made some good progress | |
| 02:06 | wajasu+++ | |
| 02:06 | druthb | One o' my migration libraries would *love* to see that fixed. |
| 02:08 | wajasu | but for other languages, we may need to support unicode, which i was partially successful doing, but will be a bigger change. |
| 02:10 | rangi | if $self->{item}->{rentalcharge} > 0){ |
| 02:11 | thats what i ended up doing, and making sure that gets set in item.pm | |
| 02:21 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 76.183.114.76 pasted "quick fix to print diacritics for standard PDF fonts - want to see your udierisis? I added line 125." (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63 |
| 02:27 | wajasu | maybe someone can do a quick test by editing intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-create-pdf.pl printing a barcode data label, with a foriegn language diacritic in the texT such as ISBN: 0807015415; 0807015407 Habermas, Jürgen. |
| 02:30 | i am also wondering if I can just report it in bugzilla, or will i need to actually supply a patch. Also, to what extent should it be tested. (Each standard font we support in the dropdown?) | |
| 02:30 | wahanui | okay, wajasu. |
| 02:30 | wajasu | thx |
| 02:58 | Note: I did my fix on koha 3.4.4 code base (which also had use Encode; at the top). I just went to try to print labels with diacritics on my 3.0.2 prod server wihtout the change and no pdf is successfully made. So other bugs are probably there (i.e. wide chars). | |
| 03:10 | hmm. i had to apply the utf8 fix in PDF.pm in the prEnd() that 3.4.4 has so 3.0.2 will provide a pdf.(with bad mapping). but when i do the utf8::downgrade($line,FAIL_OK);, my create-label.pl runs pinned at 100% cpu with no end in sight. Perl version or other patches missing? | |
| 03:11 | I also noticed my 1st line call number is missing in the 3.4.4 version. Hmm. | |
| 03:14 | wahanui: so you might have trouble on an older version of koha / perl /PDF:Reuse. I was hoping that one line fix would help those in production now. I may track that down. | |
| 03:14 | wahanui | wajasu: sorry... |
| 03:15 | wajasu | wahanui: what version of koha /perl older, or latest? |
| 03:15 | wahanui | wajasu: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 03:17 | wajasu | my perlbrew test environment has got koha 3.4.4 and perl 5.12.1, but with latest modules pulled from cpan as of a week ago. |
| 03:20 | i might just have to submit the fix to the master (hopefully 3.6 ) if they will take it. thanks for the effort. | |
| 03:26 | rangi | if its a bugfix, yep you have about a week or so to get a patch submitted, otherwise 3.6.1 november 22nd |
| 03:27 | evening trea | |
| 03:28 | trea | hi rangi |
| 03:31 | rangi | http://artoftrolling.files.wor[…]ling-dog-mask.jpg |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | that's special. |
| 03:32 | %.% | |
| 03:32 | trea | classic, total classic |
| 03:32 | rangi | heh |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | ^/^ |
| 03:32 | lol | |
| 03:32 | apparently I'm special too. | |
| 03:36 | rangi | hmm still need a release maintainer |
| 03:38 | wajasu | looks like i can't do utf8::downgrade($line, FAIL_OK); because of strict subs. Without FAIL_OK, things seem to work. |
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| 04:18 | mtj | interesting... |
| 04:18 | wahanui | rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 04:19 | mtj | http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.c[…]ice-vs-protesters |
| 04:19 | go msnbc | |
| 04:20 | note to nyc cop... citizen != terrorist :/ | |
| 04:21 | eythian | they could be though. |
| 04:21 | They could be taking photos of something | |
| 04:22 | Or have a beard. | |
| 04:29 | mtj | such a sneaky 'drive-by' macing, too |
| 04:30 | the other cops are trying to work out wtf?!? happened, it's so quick | |
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| 04:32 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:34 | rangi | morning cait |
| 04:34 | cait | morning :) |
| 04:39 | * eythian | builds packages for 3.4.5 |
| 04:40 | rangi | sweet |
| 04:40 | cait | :) |
| 04:41 | eythian | I also note that now the only custom patches I have in the build is updating the changelog, that's good. |
| 04:41 | rangi | nice |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | that's supergood |
| 04:46 | rangi | we should run some log reports on the apt repo |
| 04:47 | be kinda interesting, in a pointless way :) | |
| 04:47 | eythian | yeah |
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| 05:07 | eythian | new packages for 3.4.5 and master are uploading |
| 05:08 | are uploaded. | |
| 05:15 | cait | :) |
| 05:15 | eythian++ | |
| 05:24 | time to go, bye all | |
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| 06:10 | cait | hi #koha |
| 06:11 | eythian | hi cait |
| 06:11 | cait | hi again eythian |
| 06:22 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6929] koha-stop-zebra falls over if a zebra process isn't running <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6929> |
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| 06:50 | * Oak | waves |
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| 07:05 | francharb | hi all |
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| 07:31 | Oak | hello francharb :) |
| 07:31 | francharb | hello Oak |
| 07:37 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 450 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6733: change branchcode call in Labels to use userenv instead of LoginBranchname <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab8db15bda567f606> |
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| 08:21 | rangi | francharb: have you seen http://vincent.mabillot.net/ar[…]-du-symposium-570 |
| 08:21 | francharb | nope |
| 08:22 | bookmarked! | |
| 08:22 | rangi | i figure you'd understand it better than me :) |
| 08:23 | francharb | hopefully ;) |
| 08:23 | paul was there if you want feed back ;) | |
| 08:24 | rangi | :) |
| 08:25 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #450: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/450/ |
| 08:25 | ian.walls: Bug 6733: change branchcode call in Labels to use userenv instead of LoginBranchname | |
| 08:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page |
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| 08:34 | paul_p | funny day : impossible to open BibLibre office door tomorrow (and no sign of any vandalism) Everybody back home for a free holiday, except those who have a laptop or a computer at home... |
| 08:34 | s/tomorrow/this morning/ | |
| 08:34 | and the door is 6 months old, ... | |
| 08:34 | rangi | ahh i was wondering why the different ip |
| 08:35 | have to get a locksmith? | |
| 08:36 | paul_p | rangi, the door is still under guarantee, so we wait for the company who installed it. No one available before 5PM :'(( |
| 08:36 | rangi | :( |
| 08:37 | paul_p | rangi, have you seen that : breaking news: we've found our new support guy, his name is adrien. And our librarian project manager, his name is Gaëtan. You should hear from them very soon ;-) |
| 08:37 | (said yesterday on the channel, blog entry coming) | |
| 08:37 | (BibLibre is now 18... do you believe it ? I can't ;-) ) | |
| 08:37 | wahanui | i already had it that way, paul_p. |
| 08:37 | rangi | excellent, well done! |
| 08:37 | have all 18 voted for kohacon12 ? :) | |
| 08:38 | paul_p | rangi, yep, well, not 18, because the 2 newbies starts on next monday ;-) |
| 08:38 | rangi | :) |
| 08:38 | i think only 3 days left to vote? | |
| 08:40 | paul_p | I think too |
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| 09:28 | Oak | \⬮ |
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| 09:49 | rangi | hi _mika_ |
| 09:49 | _mika_ | hi |
| 09:49 | wahanui | salut, _mika_ |
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| 09:51 | _mika_ | anybody knows howto re-generate marcxml data in biblioitems table? |
| 09:51 | rangi | is the marc data still there? |
| 09:52 | _mika_ | looks xmldata |
| 09:52 | mya problem is weird characters in search result page in opac | |
| 09:54 | rangi | right, but is the data in the marc column (not the marcxml one) ok? |
| 09:59 | _mika_ | how can i check it? |
| 10:00 | rangi | well you can only regenerate the marcxml from it |
| 10:00 | so if its corrupt too, then you cant | |
| 10:01 | you could back up your db and then try | |
| 10:01 | misc/cronjobs/MARC21_parse_test.pl | |
| 10:02 | _mika_ | thanks, i'll try it |
| 10:09 | Brooke | eythian++ |
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| 10:25 | cait | fredericd: around? |
| 10:27 | and no paul_p | |
| 10:27 | hmm | |
| 10:29 | rangi | biblibre got locked out of their offices |
| 10:29 | cait | ẞẞ |
| 10:29 | ?? | |
| 10:29 | rangi | https://twitter.com/#!/paul_po[…]18992875378843648 |
| 10:29 | the door is stuck or something, and the people cant come to fix until 5pm | |
| 10:31 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 10:31 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (11:00 PM NZDT on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:32 | cait | ouch! |
| 10:32 | @wunder stuttgart | |
| 10:33 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 10:33 | cait | @wunder stuttgart germany |
| 10:33 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 10:33 | rangi | hehe |
| 10:33 | @wunder germs | |
| 10:33 | huginn | rangi: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 10:33 | rangi | try the airport cait |
| 10:34 | cait | trying to find the airport code right now |
| 10:34 | @wunder STR | |
| 10:34 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in 2 mi s of EDDS, Filderstadt, Germany is 19.4°C (12:34 PM CEST on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:35 | rangi | :) |
| 10:35 | nice day | |
| 10:35 | wahanui | you betcha rangi |
| 10:35 | cait | yep :) |
| 10:39 | rangi | night all |
| 10:39 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
| 10:39 | cait | good night rangi :) |
| 10:49 | bye #koha | |
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| 11:39 | _mika_ | argh.. MARC21_parse_test.pl doesn't fix my problem.. records were ok. i've converted characters straight to columns but i just wondering if there is some module which regenerates marcxml data in biblioitems? |
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| 12:02 | _mika_ | i fixed marcxml column manually.. thanks anyway |
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| 12:03 | Koha_newbie | how to add keyboard layout button on OPAC page for multilingual search? help plz |
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| 12:05 | jcamins_away | Koha_newbie: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C_screen_keyboard |
| 12:06 | There's an example with Hebrew. | |
| 12:06 | Koha_newbie | i need Urdu & Arabic keyboard |
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| 12:07 | jcamins_away | Koha_newbie: then you'll need to modify that example for Arabic and Urdu. |
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| 12:09 | jcamins_away | Koha_newbie: keep in mind, too, that the on-screen keyboard requires the patron to click on each letter. |
| 12:10 | If you have control of the computers the OPAC will be on, you might be better off setting them up so people can change the keyboard layout. | |
| 12:15 | Koha_newbie | jcamins_away: thanks.... but I need that, because many people didn't have "additional language keyboard" right-to-left languages (East Asian languages) on there PC |
| 12:16 | jcamins_away | Koha_newbie: I see. In that case, the on-screen keyboard example I gave you should get you started. |
| 12:17 | Koha_newbie | so you mean... i just replace the Hebrew letters to Urdu/Arabic |
| 12:17 | ? | |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away | Koha_newbie: right. |
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| 12:28 | Koha_newbie | jcamins_away: Example said that """You can create a table with every script and all characters you can think of. Remove dir="rtl" from the table tag for LTR scripts.""" (may I remove dir="rtl" in OpacHeader please clearfy) |
| 12:33 | jcamins_away | Arabic and Urdu are right-to-left, so why would you remove dir="rtl"? |
| 12:40 | Koha_newbie | ok |
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| 12:48 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:01 | paul_p | good morning oleonard |
| 13:07 | oleonard | paul_p, did you see my comment on Bug 5725? I wonder if the error happens because the right calculations are not being made on the value in 000 before the MARC record is created |
| 13:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 13:08 | paul_p | oleonard, yep, I saw it. Couldn't give it a try, but on my tests, I had no problems, so I must reproduce your problem |
| 13:08 | oleonard | paul_p: I don't know if that is a MARC21-specific issue |
| 13:09 | I just know that the value I enter in 000 is recalculated by Koha before it's added in a normal edit operation | |
| 13:10 | paul_p | oleonard, it could, but it should not. afaik, only a part of the leader is recalculated (the biblio size, for example) |
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| 13:29 | oleonard | paul_p: When I enter new information in 000, I might enter it as " nam a22 4500". After the record is saved, the value has been recalculated by Koha as, for instance, "00483nam a2200157 4500" |
| 13:29 | I wonder if this recalculation is not being done by the batch mod process, and I wonder whether that causes the error. | |
| 13:36 | On serials/subscription-detail.pl, why is there a "(*)" after "Frequency" ? | |
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| 14:08 | hdl | oleonard: this page bug 4223 you said this page needed design work. we also did some. and splitted the page so that numbering patters would be input in an other page. |
| 14:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4223 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Too much serials info - design work needed |
| 14:09 | oleonard | Where's the patch? |
| 14:09 | wahanui | i think the patch is pretty old now, good luck |
| 14:10 | hdl | oleonard: here : http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]ads/dev/stetienne |
| 14:10 | oleonard: was just to tell you. | |
| 14:11 | oleonard | Mine is based on master and is in Bugzilla. |
| 14:12 | hdl | oleonard: as I said, it was just to tell you. |
| 14:12 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4223] Too much serials info - design work needed <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4223> |
| 14:12 | hdl | simple information. |
| 14:15 | nengard | new icky bug found - bug 6930 |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6930 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can't add patron attributes anymore |
| 14:18 | hdl | oleonard: thanks for your patches anyway and congrats for your 1st wining place on latest release. |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Thanks :) |
| 14:20 | nengard: What were the parameters of the type you were trying to add? I'm able to add on my system. | |
| 14:21 | nengard | a code and a description - that's it |
| 14:21 | * wizzyrea | couldn't |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | I did the same |
| 14:21 | just code/desc | |
| 14:21 | and it wouldn't add | |
| 14:21 | sekjal | argh |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | this didn't either: http://screencast.com/t/Wy3Vt3nNs |
| 14:23 | sekjal | likely a bug introduced by the bug 5436 |
| 14:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
| 14:23 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6323] Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6323> | |
| 14:24 | * oleonard | isn't having any problem adding |
| 14:26 | hates weird stuff like this | |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | oleonard: do you have an existing attribute? |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:26 | * wizzyrea | is adding one on top of others |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | hm ok not that then |
| 14:28 | sekjal | wizzyrea: can you confirm that the borrower_attribute_types.display_checkout field exists in your database? |
| 14:28 | the database update method was done in a weird way with this patch | |
| 14:29 | * wizzyrea | will look |
| 14:29 | sekjal | perhaps something went wrong |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 14:30 | http://screencast.com/t/u7tNUhnI | |
| 14:31 | ^-- current master | |
| 14:31 | sekjal: it's missing | |
| 14:32 | oleonard | This new file was added in the commit: installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/0009-patron-attr-display-checkout.pl |
| 14:32 | Didn't work? | |
| 14:33 | * wizzyrea | is tired of signing off on bug 6253 |
| 14:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | but I'll do it again. |
| 14:34 | sekjal | oleonard: that atomic update file is not invoked by updatedatabase |
| 14:34 | oleonard | It doesn't do anything? |
| 14:35 | sekjal | the atomicupdate file may well add the column |
| 14:35 | but the normal database update script doesn't | |
| 14:35 | hence the problem we're seeing here | |
| 14:35 | we need to get updatedatabase to insert the column | |
| 14:35 | oleonard | What is its purpose? |
| 14:36 | sekjal | the new column determines whether the patron attribute will show up on the patron detail pages, under their address/contact info on the left |
| 14:36 | oleonard | I mean what is the purpose of the file? |
| 14:43 | sekjal | the purpose of the atomicupdate file is to add alter the table to include the new field |
| 14:44 | essentially, it's just pulling the code out of updatedatabase.pl | |
| 14:44 | in an effort to the whole DBrev = "3.05.00.XXX" issue | |
| 14:44 | oleonard | It obviously doesn't work. |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | didn't work this time anyway |
| 14:45 | sekjal | yeah... not part of our normal workflow |
| 14:47 | hdl | wizzyrea: 6253 failed QA ? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | I didn't set that... |
| 14:48 | no, it's in needs sign off? | |
| 14:48 | i'm testing it again now | |
| 14:53 | nothing wrong with the patch afaict hdl, but i'm not done poking it yet | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Hey there, #koha. |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Hi jcamins |
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| 15:23 | Oak | \o |
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| 15:25 | cait | hi #koha |
| 15:30 | oleonard | Hi cait, haven't seen much of you lately. Have you been traveling? |
| 15:30 | cait | yes - on my way back home to Konstanz |
| 15:30 | was gone till Friday - happy to be home again :) | |
| 15:31 | hope to get back to bug wrangling soon | |
| 15:34 | Oak | hello cait :) have a safe journey home |
| 15:36 | maximep | looks like my database wasn't updated properly when I switched to master. How do I run again the db update scripts ? |
| 15:40 | oleonard | maximep: You can manually set back the version number in the database |
| 15:40 | maximep: Look under the "local use" tab in system preferences | |
| 15:41 | maximep: Koha will think the database is out of date and run updates again. | |
| 15:41 | cait | oleonard: since friday... of course :) |
| 15:43 | maximep | hmmm if I understand correctly, all the queries are in /installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl ? |
| 15:43 | paul_p | BibLibre office opened (by a locksmith that needed 1 hour !) |
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| 15:43 | paul_p | for tonight = only 1 door locked, and the 2nd one without any locker :( |
| 15:43 | cait | :( |
| 15:43 | any idea what happened? | |
| 15:43 | paul_p | (well, not 1 hour, he needed 2 hours...) |
| 15:44 | maximep | I can't find the query to add display_checkout in borrower_attribute_types :S |
| 15:44 | paul_p | cait, nope, just something broken in the locker (seems it's related to the "emergency exit" stuff that was blocked) |
| 15:44 | maximep | maybe i'm crazy |
| 15:45 | cait | paul_p: getting a new lock tomorrow? |
| 15:45 | paul_p | cait, yep |
| 15:46 | cait | going to sleep in the office? ;) |
| 15:46 | paul_p | cait, nope, philippe is taking all laptops in his car, to his home |
| 15:46 | cait | ah |
| 15:46 | hope it will be all ok tomorrow | |
| 15:47 | sounds like a really annoying surprise | |
| 15:49 | sekjal | maximep: see installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/0009-patron-attr-display-checkout.pl |
| 15:49 | for that particular bugfix, we tried out a new method for handling the updates | |
| 15:49 | didn't work, apparently | |
| 15:54 | maximep | sekjal: thanks, it worked |
| 15:55 | cait | sekjal++ :) |
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| 15:55 | wizzyrea | what am I doing wrong? I cannot get the stupid circ autocomplete to work - it worked once and then.... it went away |
| 15:56 | (that's with patch for 6253) | |
| 15:57 | cait | hallo adnc |
| 15:57 | pref? | |
| 15:57 | I think the default is off - only checking | |
| 15:57 | bug 6253 | |
| 15:57 | hm, wahanui? | |
| 15:57 | wahanui | cait: excuse me? |
| 15:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | no, it's on |
| 15:57 | adnc | cait, huhu |
| 15:57 | cait | wahanui: you are slow! |
| 15:57 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information... |
| 15:58 | cait | adnc: koha still alive? :) |
| 15:58 | adnc | yes, still alive. Less time to play with it, but works great |
| 15:59 | * wizzyrea | can't make it work anywhere |
| 15:59 | cait | the time problem seems to be a general one |
| 15:59 | adnc | ;) |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | and this makes me extremely sad. |
| 15:59 | hdl | wizzyrea: is circ/ysearch.pl broken ? |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | i'm using the "fixed" patch. |
| 16:00 | hdl | and it is not ysearch can't work... |
| 16:00 | ? | |
| 16:01 | cait | wizzyrea: hm, javascript? |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea: so the search routine still works but the circauto doesn't work with one / both versions of the patch? | |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | search works, but the circauto appears to be broken, yes |
| 16:05 | hdl | mmm wizzyrea please delete the patch then. Thanks for testing. |
| 16:05 | it appears that my merge was made too quickliy | |
| 16:05 | sekjal | hang on |
| 16:05 | * wizzyrea | isn't gonna touch it |
| 16:05 | sekjal | i'm running master, and circauto is buggy for me, too |
| 16:05 | sometimes it works, other times not | |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | ^ I saw that, maybe it's not this patch that's doing it |
| 16:06 | * wizzyrea | rolls it off |
| 16:07 | sekjal | circ/ysearch.pl itself is working; the responses are being delivered |
| 16:07 | the JS just isn't loading them | |
| 16:07 | hdl | sekjal: wizzyrea was testing bug 6253 |
| 16:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
| 16:08 | sekjal | hdl: yes, but the change she's testing is for the latest bit of patch for circ/ysearch.pl |
| 16:08 | I'm just saying that it's not working may not be the patch; it may be something preexisting | |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea: you have Firebug? | |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | I have chrome developer tools, I could get firebug too |
| 16:09 | ok yes, I have firebug | |
| 16:12 | sho nuff, it's getting the data. | |
| 16:12 | (sans patch) | |
| 16:12 | but not showing it | |
| 16:12 | and now, it is. | |
| 16:16 | hdl | btw jquery.ajax and autocomplete should be used rather than yui. but can't patch that right away |
| 16:16 | oleonard | It's already done |
| 16:16 | In my jqueryUI branch | |
| 16:17 | hdl | oleonard: :-* |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | i'm getting very weird mixed results - but I don't think it's because of 6253 |
| 16:17 | because the mixed results are on master. | |
| 16:17 | can anyone else confirm that? | |
| 16:18 | oleonard | What are you seeing wizzyrea ? |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | 1s |
| 16:18 | vid | |
| 16:20 | http://screencast.com/t/3LmvKaxg | |
| 16:20 | oleonard | All of humanity's evolution and technological achievement have led to this day, when someone could say simply, "1s, vid" and make it so. |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 16:21 | and most everybody *knows what i'm doing* | |
| 16:23 | oleonard | It is merely an inconsistency that the patrons page has no autocomplete |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | @quote add oleonard: All of humanity's evolution and technological achievement have led to this day, when someone could say simply, "1s, vid" and make it so. |
| 16:23 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #160 added. |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | yea, i note that as ok |
| 16:23 | (i don't think it's ever done it) | |
| 16:24 | it gets weird after that | |
| 16:25 | do you see? can you replicate? | |
| 16:26 | oleonard | Yes and yes |
| 16:26 | * wizzyrea | sighs with relief |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 16:26 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 04:24 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | ^ probably involves bacon. |
| 16:27 | * oleonard | had better keep to his diet to make sure that quote stays accurate |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 16:28 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010) |
| 16:29 | cait | @quote random |
| 16:29 | huginn | cait: Quote #154: "rangi: it's destined to be an eternal mystery" (added by wizzyrea at 04:53 AM, September 15, 2011) |
| 16:29 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 16:29 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.4°C (6:22 PM CEST on September 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 16:29 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #48: "<sekjal> no, anything I said was my fault" (added by jwagner at 09:52 PM, December 09, 2009) |
| 16:31 | trea | @quote random |
| 16:31 | huginn | trea: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) |
| 16:31 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 16:37 | oleonard | one of them? |
| 16:37 | wahanui | well, one of them is bound to have a good idea ;) |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | well, one of them |
| 16:38 | wahanui | one of them is bound to have a good idea ;) |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | quote #100 |
| 16:38 | hm nope | |
| 16:41 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I have a fix, but I don't know why it works. |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | shoot :) |
| 16:41 | (it to me) | |
| 16:41 | oleonard | Sounds like a hit song "Shoot (it to me)" |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | so we are thinking that this is separate from 6253? |
| 16:43 | oleonard | Looks like it to me. |
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| 16:47 | wizzyrea | meh, kindle fire. |
| 16:49 | * oleonard | doesn't like fixes he doesn't understand |
| 16:53 | sekjal | okay, I'm finding autocomplete works better back in 3.4.2 than now |
| 16:54 | starting a git-bisect to try to find the culprit | |
| 16:54 | * wizzyrea | did not mean to cause all of this consternation |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | (but i'm appreciative of the attention, I'd really like to get 3253 in) |
| 16:58 | sekjal | git bisect indicates the problem started with commit ID da7bcbd4 |
| 16:58 | bug 6468 | |
| 16:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6468 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , Authorities browsing error in OPAC |
| 16:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea: gee, that's a lot of consternation you caused. :P |
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| 16:59 | sekjal | interesting, since that commit doesn't seem to DO anything even remotely related |
| 17:00 | oleonard | Yeah, that can't be right. |
| 17:00 | sekjal | no, it can't |
| 17:00 | template only change on a different page | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | sekjal: maybe the commit right before? |
| 17:01 | sekjal | also template only, on opac-results.tt |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Commit right after? That seems kind of unlikely. |
| 17:03 | sekjal | template only change, as well |
| 17:03 | on a syspref | |
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| 17:06 | sekjal | now it's giving me commit ID 27c87aea11 |
| 17:06 | which is also not relevant | |
| 17:06 | wahanui | okay, sekjal. |
| 17:06 | jcamins | which? |
| 17:06 | wahanui | or not relevant |
| 17:07 | jcamins | wahanui: forget which |
| 17:07 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot which |
| 17:07 | jcamins | wahanui: which is <reply> |
| 17:07 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
| 17:07 | jcamins | which? |
| 17:10 | sekjal | okay, git bisect is NOT working here |
| 17:10 | different answer every time | |
| 17:11 | all of the answers are non-sensical | |
| 17:17 | patron-search-box.inc has not been changed since the T:T conversion | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | sekjal: data issue? |
| 17:22 | sekjal | jcamins: checking my other firebug tabs, I'm seeing a Javascript error |
| 17:23 | but, it's still there when it all works, too | |
| 17:25 | jcamins | sekjal: what's the error? |
| 17:25 | sekjal | missing } after function body |
| 17:26 | I think it's my intranetuserjs | |
| 17:27 | jcamins | Ah. Yeah, sounds like it. |
| 17:28 | sekjal | huh. and now it's not working on a commit that worked previously |
| 17:28 | that would explain my git bisect failing | |
| 17:28 | it's not the code | |
| 17:30 | when it's not working, my second character isn't initiating a second search | |
| 17:30 | its getting stuck between the response and the display of that response | |
| 17:30 | I think it's some kind of caching issue | |
| 17:41 | oleonard | In what way could it be a caching issue? |
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| 17:42 | sekjal | oleonard: no idea |
| 17:42 | conjecturing wildly at this point | |
| 17:43 | oleonard | sekjal: Are you finding that it sometimes works in current master? |
| 17:43 | sekjal | I remember seeing it work briefly earlier today, on master |
| 17:45 | jcamins | sekjal: does shift-reload fix it? |
| 17:48 | sekjal | jcamins: no |
| 17:52 | jcamins | sekjal: that's too bad, but I figured it was worth a try. |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | jcamins |
| 17:53 | see | |
| 17:53 | http://screencast.com/t/3LmvKaxg | |
| 17:57 | sekjal | each letter typed should spawn a circ/ysearch.pl process |
| 17:58 | when it's not working, only the first generates the process, and response | |
| 17:58 | but the response is not displayed, and subsequent characters are ignored | |
| 17:58 | UNLESS | |
| 17:58 | I backspace, and start with a completely different character | |
| 17:58 | * wizzyrea | tries that |
| 17:59 | sekjal | hmmm |
| 17:59 | though sometimes the results from the first character are displayed, but the second char STILL doesn't init a search | |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | I just had it get stuck after the 2nd character |
| 18:01 | problem with the way newer versions of browsers handle this particular javascript maybe? | |
| 18:01 | * wizzyrea | tries to get it to work *at all* in chrome |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | (I couldn't make it work this morning) |
| 18:01 | (at all ever) | |
| 18:02 | sekjal | if i type two characters REALLY quickly in succession, I'll get the two char search only |
| 18:02 | then third char is ignored | |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | sekjal: I can't make it work at all in chrome |
| 18:02 | i just double checked, did exactly the steps I did in my screencast | |
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| 18:03 | cait | hi #koha :) |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | sekjal! it works in chrome when the console is up! |
| 18:04 | wtf does that mean?1 | |
| 18:04 | sekjal | we're using autocomplete-min.js 2.8.0.r4... current looks like 2.9 |
| 18:04 | cait | cookies? |
| 18:04 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 18:06 | sekjal | from the changelog for YUI |
| 18:06 | *** version 2.9.0 *** | |
| 18:06 | * Better support for forceSelection when typeAhead is enabled. | |
| 18:06 | * Add formatEscapedResult() for implementers who need to escape potentially | |
| 18:06 | untrustworthy result data for insertion into DOM. | |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | well... possibly a very longstanding bug? |
| 18:09 | oleonard | yui-- |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | it does seem to have something to do with speed? idk. |
| 18:13 | cait | oleonard: are you aware of accessibility problems with the buttons in yui? |
| 18:13 | afaik there is aproblem with pull down buttons (not sure how to call them) | |
| 18:13 | like the edit and add buttons on opac detail | |
| 18:14 | and do you know if that will get better with jquery? :) | |
| 18:14 | oleonard | No, I'm not aware of it. |
| 18:14 | cait | hm ok |
| 18:15 | i got some screenshots for the library, will try to find out more at work tomorrow | |
| 18:15 | for = from | |
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| 18:25 | maximep | bug 5549 wasn't ready in time for 3.6 ? :/ |
| 18:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
| 18:25 | sekjal | maximep: it's possible |
| 18:26 | nengard | the patch was sent before the freeze |
| 18:26 | sekjal | any patches submitted, whether they need signoff or not, are viable 3.6 candidates |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | so, you're testing that then, maximep? |
| 18:26 | :P | |
| 18:26 | help a sista/brotha out | |
| 18:26 | maximep | well we have our own branch that implements that feature |
| 18:27 | I would have dropped it happily for the one from the community | |
| 18:27 | now i'm not sure | |
| 18:27 | cait | why? |
| 18:27 | not sure I mean? | |
| 18:27 | it can still go in and has one sign-off | |
| 18:27 | so it's almost half-way | |
| 18:28 | * wizzyrea | proclaims that you can't whine if you won't help. |
| 18:29 | sekjal | if I set AutoCirc.maxCacheEntries to 0 (instead of 60), every new character initiates a search, but not results are displayed on screen |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | weeird. |
| 18:29 | maximep | heh, I have 50 branches of stuff to port from 3.2 to 3.6, so kind of busy |
| 18:29 | :p | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | maximep: ouch. That's why the Koha motto is "rebase and release early and often." |
| 18:30 | maximep | jcamins: trust me, I wish we could have from the start |
| 18:31 | cait | you can do better starting today :) |
| 18:31 | * cait | tries to look at the positive side |
| 18:31 | nengard | libsysguy says they're using that hourly loans in production |
| 18:31 | cait | maximep: not trying to tease you |
| 18:31 | nengard | he just didn't know how to put a sign off on it |
| 18:31 | and wanted another library to test | |
| 18:32 | maximep | cait: and i'm not trying to force anyone to do the work for me |
| 18:32 | I was just wondering of the status | |
| 18:32 | ok, well, maybe I will look into it | |
| 18:33 | cait | I thing perhaps you will want to compare |
| 18:33 | or perhaps your customer could? | |
| 18:33 | maximep | yeah, seems like a good idea |
| 18:33 | rangi | morning |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | hi thar |
| 18:34 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 18:34 | trea | morning rangi |
| 18:35 | cait | hi trea :) |
| 18:35 | trea | hi cait! |
| 18:36 | rangi | only 2 more days of voting have u voted maximep ? |
| 18:37 | maximep | rangi: voting ? |
| 18:37 | wahanui | i guess voting is broken https://landfill.bugzilla.org/[…]#v40_feat_vot_ext |
| 18:37 | rangi | heh |
| 18:38 | voting for the kohacon12 location | |
| 18:38 | anyone got the link handy? | |
| 18:39 | oleonard | http://survey.web2learning.net[…]dex.php?sid=63529 |
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| 18:40 | sekjal | I think I found how to fix CircAutoComplete |
| 18:40 | rangi | thanks oleonard |
| 18:40 | yay! | |
| 18:40 | is it js? | |
| 18:40 | sekjal | set queryMatchSubset = false; in our invocation on patron-search-box.inc |
| 18:41 | what was happening was that up to 60 results were being cached, and then for the second character, it was trying to search the cache first before pulling in new data | |
| 18:42 | rangi | ahhhh |
| 18:42 | sekjal | by eliminating that cache, we pull 10 new results each time |
| 18:42 | rangi | that'd do it |
| 18:42 | right, harder on db? | |
| 18:43 | sekjal | can be, if the second character search was within the first 60 for the previous search |
| 18:43 | so searching "da" would likely have a savings if you've got lots of patrons with surnames starting "Da" | |
| 18:43 | but "do" would probably still need to pull in a whole new set | |
| 18:44 | rangi | has it been fixed to not start searching until u type 3 letters or more? |
| 18:44 | * rangi | always turns the syspref off |
| 18:44 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 18:45 | sekjal | rangi: would be easy enough to add that, sure |
| 18:45 | one line | |
| 18:45 | * libsysguy | needs a piece of advice |
| 18:45 | rangi | cool that'd drop out a couple of hits on the db |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | I am writing a script to send out our overdues...and I can send mail with the mail command from command line |
| 18:45 | but I coppied the mail function from C4::Letters | |
| 18:45 | and I get nothing | |
| 18:46 | is there something else I should be looking at? | |
| 18:46 | rangi | anything in mta logs? |
| 18:46 | can u see the script hitting the mta? | |
| 18:47 | libsysguy | so I'm using exim |
| 18:47 | so would it be in those logs | |
| 18:47 | rangi | yep |
| 18:47 | mainlog | |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | sekjal - I made those changes but the behavior is still the same? |
| 18:49 | libsysguy | it looks like it is |
| 18:49 | let me tail it and run again | |
| 18:50 | nevermind...its not hitting the mainlog | |
| 18:51 | sekjal | wizzyrea: you're setting queryMatchSubset to false? |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | yep, and maxCacheEntries = 10 |
| 18:52 | * wizzyrea | does it again, to be extra sure |
| 18:52 | clears the cache entirely | |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | no, it's not working |
| 18:54 | http://screencast.com/t/lGwMcOGkUEq9 | |
| 18:54 | you can see that it gets the data | |
| 18:54 | but it doesn't show it | |
| 18:55 | sekjal | I don't know |
| 18:55 | changing those settings is better for me, sometimes searches I've already done still won't display right | |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | oh! well let me check that |
| 18:56 | AHA | |
| 18:56 | indeed! | |
| 18:56 | a search I had never done before brought up the autocomp | |
| 18:56 | sekjal | so that cache is still screwing things up somehow |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | apparently? |
| 18:56 | but I cleared my local cache completely | |
| 18:57 | sekjal | your browser cache? |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | so why would a search I had done before still be messing it up |
| 18:57 | yea | |
| 18:57 | sekjal | it may be stored some place else |
| 18:57 | * wizzyrea | nukes the cache, closes the browser. |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | that is SO WEIRD. it's still not working on a search i've already done |
| 18:58 | well, the search I did that messed up in the first plac | |
| 18:59 | any search but that works just fine | |
| 18:59 | sekjal | the data is stored in "a local Javascript array" |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | I would reboot, but I don't really want to :/ |
| 18:59 | well | |
| 19:00 | let me close out of both of my browswers. | |
| 19:00 | browswers. cute. | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea left #koha | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | ewps |
| 19:00 | sekjal | simplest first plan: logout and login to Koha |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | I did that |
| 19:01 | tried that* | |
| 19:01 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | no dice |
| 19:01 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 19:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: try it in a VM? |
| 19:01 | rangi | woot my gitstats patch got accepted |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | ah I have other computers here :) |
| 19:02 | will try on that in a bit if closing the browsers doesn't get it | |
| 19:03 | rangi | my stop bbiab |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | there! |
| 19:03 | I closed out of chrome AND firefox | |
| 19:03 | cleared the history | |
| 19:03 | and it's unbrokeded | |
| 19:03 | :D | |
| 19:03 | Brooke | hooray |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | so it must have gotten hung up in *memory*?!!? |
| 19:07 | * wizzyrea | boggles |
| 19:12 | oleonard | Koha's tags code is so opaque. Makes my brain hurt. |
| 19:12 | * Brooke | hands oleonard some nsaids. |
| 19:12 | * wizzyrea | hands oleonard some whisky |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | wait |
| 19:13 | don't take those together :P | |
| 19:13 | cait | oleonard: if someone can do it ... it's you :) |
| 19:13 | Brooke | Wizzy I was just gonna ask if that came out of the OCLC treehouse, but everyone knows that's scotch. |
| 19:15 | rangi | back |
| 19:16 | Brooke | welcome back |
| 19:17 | * oleonard | is pushing the limits of his copy-and-pasting skills to put together a page in the staff client for showing a list of titles tagged with a particular tag |
| 19:18 | Brooke | that would be sexy if you manage it. |
| 19:18 | oleonard | I've got the basics down, now I want to be able to throw in delete buttons |
| 19:22 | * cait | cheers for oleonard |
| 19:22 | Brooke | oleonard++ |
| 19:22 | why cheer when you can mod? | |
| 19:22 | oleonard | Because the proof is in the code |
| 19:34 | rangi | also |
| 19:34 | do brookes survey | |
| 19:34 | or i will find you | |
| 19:35 | Brooke | <3 |
| 19:35 | rangi | Brooke: can i forward to ppl at work? |
| 19:35 | Brooke | please! |
| 19:35 | rangi | will do |
| 19:35 | tweet? | |
| 19:35 | Brooke | go for it |
| 19:35 | the more the merrier | |
| 19:35 | rangi | cool |
| 19:35 | oleonard | Brooke: Mine is the one that says open source is a huge sausage fest and we need more babes. |
| 19:36 | Brooke | it doesn't even necessarily have to be library science folks - anyone outside the field might be useful for a baseline |
| 19:36 | ha owen | |
| 19:36 | rangi | heh |
| 19:36 | jcamins | My response is the one written by me. |
| 19:37 | (and for those of you thinking "well, obviously," I should clarify that Brooke's going to be able to tell) | |
| 19:38 | * Brooke | is just glad that her cat will not be the only respondent. |
| 19:38 | jcamins | Speaking of cats, Myshkin says hi. |
| 19:38 | Brooke | well Socks is tattling that I didn't feed her yet, even though she's got 22 minutes. That's cat for hi, I suppose. |
| 19:39 | jcamins | We've finally gotten Myshkin to the point where he only begs for food in the morning. |
| 19:40 | * wizzyrea | has filled it out |
| 19:40 | Brooke | :) |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Of course, what he lacks in frequency he makes up in persistence. |
| 19:41 | rangi | im pretty sure she can tell mine too ;) |
| 19:42 | Brooke | holy crap |
| 19:42 | the interwebs says 56 people have answered the whole thing | |
| 19:42 | the interwebs nevar lies | |
| 19:42 | oleonard | Could someone look at remove_tag in Tags.pm and tell me if I can pass it a tag+biblionumber instead of a tag_id? |
| 19:44 | rangi | 2 secs oleonard |
| 19:44 | looking now | |
| 19:44 | in master? | |
| 19:44 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:45 | cait | jcamins: sounds like a miracle :) |
| 19:45 | rangi | doesnt look like it |
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| 19:45 | rangi | tag_id and optionally a borrowernumber |
| 19:45 | oleonard | thanks for checking rangi |
| 19:46 | jcamins | cait: it sure is. |
| 19:47 | rangi | survey done |
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| 19:52 | jcamins | Grr. |
| 19:53 | Naturally since I just bragged about Myshkin's good behavior he started begging. | |
| 19:54 | cait left #koha | |
| 19:54 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:54 | rhcl_away | My cam dat complained last night because some of the food I put in her bowl fell on the floor, and if it isn't in the bowl it isn't cat food. |
| 19:55 | Brooke | that is weird |
| 19:55 | if it's not OUT of the bowl, it doesn't taste good. | |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Yeah, I have to agree with Brooke on this. |
| 19:56 | rhcl_away | well, I'll bring her to the next KudosCon and you two can discuss the issue with her. |
| 19:57 | Brooke | sternly, or over warm milk? |
| 19:57 | rhcl_away | your choice |
| 19:57 | Brooke | PetCon 2013 |
| 19:57 | rhcl_away | I doubt that she would drink milk, especially my almond milk. |
| 19:58 | oleonard | You'll have to get her an ALA membership rhcl_away |
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| 20:00 | cait | rhcl_away: or bring her to kohacon :) |
| 20:04 | trea1 joined #koha | |
| 20:21 | oleonard | Made progress, added a bug for it (Bug 6933) |
| 20:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6933 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a view of titles with a particular tag to the staff client |
| 20:22 | rangi | cool |
| 20:22 | * oleonard | assigns to himself |
| 20:22 | cait | :) |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | oleonard that is freat |
| 20:22 | cait | already on working new features :) |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | great :) |
| 20:22 | wtf is freat. | |
| 20:22 | oleonard | that's the new word for cool that only the cool koha kids use |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Yeah, the sort of thing that only hoopy froods say. |
| 20:23 | ;) | |
| 20:24 | oleonard | Bye, all you freat klems! |
| 20:31 | rangi | yay now im happy |
| 20:31 | https://twitter.com/#!/shlew/s[…]19146872739856385 | |
| 20:32 | * Brooke | gasps. |
| 20:32 | Brooke | has to be someplace. |
| 20:33 | I watched a good chunk of the Italy / USA game in retrospect. Stupid NBC. | |
| 20:34 | rangi | :) |
| 20:34 | they played ok | |
| 20:34 | Brooke | hadn't seen the score anyway |
| 20:35 | rangi | good game tomorrow |
| 20:35 | Brooke | Contragiovanni was teh awesome |
| 20:35 | rangi | samoa vs south africa |
| 20:35 | gonna be some huge hits | |
| 20:35 | * Brooke | has always been hot on gli azzurri |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | isn't that a type of pasta? |
| 20:37 | jcamins | It sounds to me like Italian for "the blues." |
| 20:37 | * Brooke | nods. |
| 20:37 | Brooke | generally refers to football |
| 20:37 | but everyone ends up in blue, just about. | |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Wait, you mean I was actually right about what it means?!? |
| 20:38 | * wizzyrea | was failing as being funny |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | s/as/at |
| 20:38 | Brooke | certo |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Wow! |
| 20:38 | That's very exciting. | |
| 20:39 | Brooke | I must warn you that me Italian's gone steadily downhill since HS, though |
| 20:39 | I clung to it through IRC for a few years at Uni | |
| 20:39 | jcamins | I don't know any Italian, so you're still ahead of me. |
| 20:39 | Brooke | but it's not the same as speaking |
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| 20:41 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 20:55 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard i imagine you'll get this for your kiddos: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]to-pick-up-157160 |
| 20:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:56 | Brooke | do they publish git like that? |
| 20:56 | cause that's what I need. | |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | that would be handy |
| 20:57 | rangi | NateC? |
| 20:57 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:57 | Brooke | shouldn't that read I love my wife; I only like space. |
| 20:59 | sekjal | hey, all, I've got a small follow up idea to bug 6901 |
| 20:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | shoot |
| 20:59 | cait | what liz said |
| 21:00 | sekjal | for fields that can contain multiple entries, like authors or subjects, have a "plural" class that wraps all of them, and an individual class for each one |
| 21:00 | so, <span class="subjects"> would have multiple <a class="subject"> | |
| 21:00 | cait | I think that would mean more changes |
| 21:01 | to the xslt | |
| 21:01 | sekjal | yes, it would require another patch |
| 21:01 | cait | not sure i see the advantage |
| 21:01 | sekjal | screen-scrapers would be better able to pluck out each individual subject and index it |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | well specifically, how would you select a specific subject among all of those subjects? |
| 21:02 | cait | screen scrapers? |
| 21:02 | rangi | jaws etc cait |
| 21:02 | cait | oh |
| 21:02 | sekjal | exalead |
| 21:02 | was the example I was using in my thought process | |
| 21:03 | cait | jaws = screen reader? |
| 21:03 | rangi | yup |
| 21:03 | sekjal | wizzyrea: you wouldn't be able to select specific subjects... but you could tell the program to grab each individual subject for any given biblio |
| 21:03 | or the "first", "second", "last", etc | |
| 21:03 | as XPath allows | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | ah sure |
| 21:04 | i have no objections to that | |
| 21:06 | sekjal | it'd be a little more stable to specify than "span.subjects a" |
| 21:07 | cait | hmm |
| 21:07 | not disagreeing | |
| 21:08 | not sure :) | |
| 21:08 | maximep | Is anyone interested by new report pages ? Should I send them in bug reports ? |
| 21:08 | I have no clue if they are useful or not :/ | |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | sql library? |
| 21:09 | report library? | |
| 21:09 | wahanui | report library is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | is that what you mean? |
| 21:09 | maximep | no, it's new pages |
| 21:09 | * wizzyrea | is not sure what you mean by 'report pages' |
| 21:09 | maximep | well, like the ones in statistics wizards |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | oh, sure, submit them |
| 21:10 | @quote get 123 | |
| 21:10 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 21:10 | rangi | screenshots would help ppl see what they do too |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | someone will be interested :) |
| 21:10 | maximep | cool |
| 21:10 | sekjal | I must depart; got to pick up my wife, then go borrow a truck for tomorrow's rock-hauling party |
| 21:11 | cheers, all | |
| 21:11 | rangi | cya sekjal |
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| 21:17 | cait | good night all |
| 21:17 | rangi | cya cait |
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| 21:37 | wizzyrea | fine grace periods are computed once per item? or once per fining interval? |
| 21:37 | * wizzyrea | can't remember |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | something is tickling my brain. |
| 21:38 | rangi | sorry? |
| 21:39 | once per issue, you get the grace period | |
| 21:39 | then the fines kick in | |
| 21:39 | using the charging interval | |
| 21:40 | so if you had fine amount $1, 2 day grace, 1 day interval | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | and it was 3 days overdue |
| 21:40 | you'd have a fine of $1 | |
| 21:40 | rangi | on day 3 overdue it would get a $1 fine, and then increment |
| 21:40 | by 1 | |
| 21:40 | each day | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | that's what I thought happened |
| 21:40 | rangi | until you hit the max set in your sysprefs |
| 21:41 | at least thats what used to happen | |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | wishes cait were here |
| 21:41 | rangi | dunno about in the hourly loans branch, i assume its still the same |
| 21:42 | its whats happening in 3.4.5 anyway | |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | *nod* i believe it's how ours are working. |
| 21:42 | but i sort of recall something cait said about fines | |
| 21:42 | and how they drive her nuts | |
| 21:42 | rangi | well |
| 21:43 | 123 applies here | |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 21:43 | rangi | lots of libraries do things like after 2 days 1$ |
| 21:43 | then after 1 day, .50c | |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | oh, truly silly things. |
| 21:43 | rangi | so 3 days = 1.50 |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | i mean, completely logical given their situation :P |
| 21:43 | rangi | and goes up in .50 from there |
| 21:43 | the rules cant cope with that | |
| 21:43 | as they currently stand | |
| 21:44 | even worse | |
| 21:44 | some increase | |
| 21:44 | .5 then 1 , then 1.5 increments | |
| 21:44 | etc | |
| 21:44 | * wizzyrea | 's head explodes |
| 21:44 | rangi | if you can think of a way to confuse the hell out of your patrons |
| 21:44 | libraries will have done that too | |
| 21:45 | * wizzyrea | starts the campaign for sanity in fining rules |
| 21:45 | rangi | :) |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 22:23 | rangi | sup NateC |
| 22:23 | NateC | hiya rangi |
| 22:26 | rangi | how was the mets game? |
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| 22:47 | f18 | hi guys, which could be a koha installation directory? |
| 22:48 | i cant find my koha installation | |
| 22:50 | rangi | did you install from git, the tarball, or the packages? |
| 22:50 | f18 | tarball |
| 22:51 | rangi | most likely /usr/local/koha or /usr/share/koha |
| 22:51 | gbarniskis | find / -name koha |
| 22:53 | or for overkill -name "*koha*" | |
| 22:54 | f18 | *narf* it seems like they shut the server in that moment down. TY for the help :) i'll try it tomorrow |
| 22:54 | good bye | |
| 22:55 | rangi | heh |
| 22:57 | gbarniskis | is there a koha cmd line or other util that will split the big fat umich records into smaller hunks for me? |
| 22:57 | eythian | what's umich? |
| 22:57 | gbarniskis | ther free U of Mich record set is huge |
| 22:58 | i am assuming i ought not try to batch load all of it | |
| 22:58 | eythian | Depends how much storage you have really |
| 22:59 | It'll all go into the reservoir. | |
| 22:59 | gbarniskis | tons but I thought someone in #koha the other day mentioned a limit on how many bibs one would want to attempt in one pass |
| 23:00 | i'm happy to load the whole thing if it'll go as one file | |
| 23:00 | eythian | Not sure, I don't use that very often. Anyway, I'm not aware of anything that'll easily split up a MARC file (I assume that's what it is?), I tend to hand-write tools like that as needed. |
| 23:00 | Try it, see what happens :) | |
| 23:03 | gbarniskis | yah, I have wrapped stuff in MARC::Record before, for school. Maybe I'll sift it for juicy subjects and make chunks that way. |
| 23:03 | jcamins | gbarniskis: the problem is with uploading giant files. If you use the command line tools, you won't have any problems. |
| 23:03 | gbarniskis | coolness |
| 23:04 | going to do some little utils too, because I want to create myself a way to organize selected bib/patron/transacton/library/syspref combos for staging tests | |
| 23:08 | why does debian dns client hate my house.local domain? i can nslookup against it fine but all other apps not so much | |
| 23:09 | it likes "www" but not "www.house.local". not at all | |
| 23:09 | jcamins | gbarniskis: you forgot to put entries in your /etc/hosts file? |
| 23:09 | eythian | what's your search path? Are you running DNS? |
| 23:10 | gbarniskis | DNS and DHCP run on the house server and only debian (so far) has ever had a prob as a client |
| 23:10 | eythian | hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
| 23:10 | from /etc/nsswitch.conf | |
| 23:10 | gbarniskis | i probably need to hack some dhclient.conf type of file |
| 23:10 | eythian | that can sometimes cause oddness and need messing with |
| 23:11 | but also, what's /etc/resolv.conf? | |
| 23:11 | DNS can be a mysterious beast | |
| 23:12 | gbarniskis | resolv.conf is what the dhcp server dutifully gives everyone. should just work |
| 23:12 | nslookup likes it fine | |
| 23:13 | eythian | nslookup is depricated, what about 'host' and 'dig'? |
| 23:13 | gbarniskis | weird. putting it in the parking lot, since bare host names work for now |
| 23:13 | thx | |
| 23:13 | eythian | most importantly, is there a 'search' entry in resolv.conf |
| 23:13 | gbarniskis | hehe. deprecated for real? probably why it still "just works" =) |
| 23:14 | jcamins | nslookup is deprecated? |
| 23:14 | I didn't know that. | |
| 23:14 | gbarniskis | yeah there is a search |
| 23:14 | jcamins | Shouldn't dig be included by default if it's the new DNS resolver? |
| 23:14 | eythian | jcamins: I think it is, anyway. 'host' is the new one |
| 23:15 | dig is for examining DNS in detail | |
| 23:15 | jcamins | eythian: dig never works for me on Debian servers. |
| 23:15 | host is there, though. | |
| 23:15 | eythian | - dig - query the DNS in various ways |
| 23:15 | - nslookup - the older way to do it | |
| 23:15 | they come in the same package | |
| 23:15 | (dnsutils) | |
| 23:16 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 23:16 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 23:16 | jcamins | wahanui: very true. |
| 23:16 | wahanui | jcamins: i'm not following you... |
| 23:17 | jcamins | wahanui: very true is <reply> I know. That's why I said it. |
| 23:17 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
| 23:17 | jcamins | wahanui: very true. |
| 23:17 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 23:20 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "gbarniskis: scripts for dealing with UMich data" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/64 |
| 23:21 | eythian | jcamins: you should make it just produce a file for each collection :) |
| 23:22 | jcamins | eythian: good point. Didn't occur to me. |
| 23:23 | And I just needed the three. | |
| 23:23 | gbarniskis: pipe the results of the first script to | sort | uniq -c if you want to see how big the various collections are. | |
| 23:23 | gbarniskis | very cool |
| 23:24 | jcamins | gbarniskis: that's only useful if you're going for special collections records, though, I think. |
| 23:25 | gbarniskis | no, it's useful because I'll be jamming my own logic into that real quick now. ty! |
| 23:27 | jcamins | gbarniskis: you're welcome. |
| 23:27 | gbarniskis: to clarify, I meant that the 773 is only used in special collections. | |
| 23:32 | gbarniskis | i'm excited by the instant gratification of not studying perldoc MARC stuff or my school notes. I can hack this right away to get say, all Astronomy works |
| 23:33 | jcamins | Heh. True. |
| 23:34 | Oh, one thing I'd change... don't use eq. Use a match operator. | |
| 23:34 | And, if you know how to do that, tell me. | |
| 23:34 | :) | |
| 23:36 | gbarniskis | one operates a match by closing the matchbook and striking the match to the edge of it |
| 23:36 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 23:36 | Actually, I can't do that either. | |
| 23:36 | Nor use a lighter. | |
| 23:39 | Nor use a flint and steel. | |
| 23:40 | gbarniskis | use Fire::Sources; # it's easier that way anyway |
| 23:40 | jcamins | :) |
| 23:40 | * gbarniskis | is off to dinner |
| 23:40 | gbarniskis | thx all |
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