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| 00:18 | kulps | Hey folks, I'm looking for suggestions on well populated z39.50 servers |
| 00:18 | I've run in to a few books that the library of congress and library and archives of canada arent able to find | |
| 00:21 | eythian | British National Library would be something else worth adding. |
| 00:22 | kulps | Thanks |
| 00:22 | I'm adding canadian targets | |
| 00:22 | but | |
| 00:22 | still not finding the books | |
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| 00:23 | eythian | It's reasonable for them not to if it's not a Canadian book. |
| 00:24 | kulps | yeah |
| 00:24 | eythian | some of the free ones have a more restricted set, and you pay more for the full one (NLNZ is like that, for example) |
| 00:25 | kulps | it's a weird copy of harry potter, but at the same time, it's still a copy of harry potter, I had high hopes it would be found |
| 00:37 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 44 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:41 | kulps | as I'm looking through these lists I'm seeing the same database names over and over again |
| 00:42 | do public libraries often share databases? | |
| 00:42 | rangi | no |
| 00:42 | usually its the name of the ils software they are using | |
| 00:42 | they arent the same database at all, unless they are on the same host too ;) | |
| 00:45 | kulps | ahhh |
| 00:45 | that makes good sense | |
| 00:45 | so Horizn, Unicorn | |
| 00:45 | it seems weird not to name your library DB | |
| 00:45 | rangi | yup, proprietary ils's |
| 00:46 | kulps | hmmm |
| 00:46 | rangi | ilses ? |
| 00:46 | eythian | ILS's |
| 00:46 | rangi | dunno what the plural of that is |
| 00:46 | eythian | it's OK to use an apostrophe for plurals on acronyms |
| 00:47 | (and numbers, e.g. 1930's) | |
| 00:47 | kulps | I'm starting to get discouraged, I have 10 public libraries from the US and Canada and both national archives but for some reason, this isbn is not returned. Amazon finds it though... |
| 00:47 | is that a lot to search through or pretty normal | |
| 00:48 | eythian | it's a lot, but it might be they're not ones that tend to index the more obscure ones. |
| 00:48 | or, maybe they're only giving you ones that they actually have, rather than a full catalogue. | |
| 00:50 | kulps | part of the issue I think might be that this is a box set, the box has an ISBN, but so does each book. |
| 00:50 | eythian | ah, could be |
| 00:50 | kulps | How should I treat this in a collection |
| 00:51 | not every person would check out the set, right? | |
| 00:51 | eythian | analytics |
| 00:51 | wahanui | the 773$w field contains the value of the 001 field of the parent record. Also, MARC sucks. |
| 00:51 | kulps | so I thought each book would be scanned |
| 00:51 | eythian | although, analytics is more for finding collections |
| 00:51 | rather than allowing one to be issued and thereby issuing all the children too. | |
| 00:51 | wahanui: marc | |
| 00:51 | wahanui | well, marc is the standard that isn't |
| 00:52 | eythian | wahanui: literal marc |
| 00:52 | wahanui | eythian: marc =is= the standard that isn't |
| 00:52 | kulps | 773? |
| 00:53 | my default framework jumps from 760 to 796 | |
| 00:53 | eythian | no wahanui, marc is the standard that isn't|<reply>http://marc-must-die.info|<reply>The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
| 00:53 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 00:54 | eythian | kulps: I think it's in the frameworks I've used. |
| 00:55 | kulps | I was kind of expecting a joke to come from it, actually |
| 00:55 | akin to "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" | |
| 00:55 | or something | |
| 00:55 | :) | |
| 01:05 | libsysguy | hey raingi...I can't really find anywhere in CalcFine that could be wrong |
| 01:05 | maybe its in the days_between function instead? | |
| 01:06 | rangi | i still think its rules |
| 01:06 | in order for days overdue to be 0 | |
| 01:06 | then | |
| 01:06 | return ($amount, $data->{chargename}, $days_minus_grace) | |
| 01:06 | days_minus_grace = 0 | |
| 01:07 | which means that | |
| 01:07 | my $days_minus_grace = $chargeable_units - $data->{firstremind}; == 0 | |
| 01:07 | which means that | |
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| 01:07 | rangi | if ($data->{'chargeperiod'} && $days_minus_grace ) { |
| 01:07 | is false | |
| 01:07 | which means | |
| 01:07 | $amount = int($chargeable_units / $data->{'chargeperiod'}) * $data->{'fine'}; is never done | |
| 01:07 | hence $amount is 0 too | |
| 01:08 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 01:08 | rangi | chargeperiod is 1 eh? |
| 01:09 | libsysguy | yes it is |
| 01:09 | rangi | and theres not some other rule thats getting used instead |
| 01:09 | libsysguy | Faculty Member,Interlibrary Loan Item,25,21,days,None defined,2.00,1,0,0,0,0,0.000000 |
| 01:10 | is what I have for that rule type | |
| 01:10 | rangi | all i can suggest is putting in some warns in CalcFine |
| 01:10 | to check exactly what rule is being used | |
| 01:11 | libsysguy | wait a secont |
| 01:11 | rangi | something is making $days_minus_grace be 0 |
| 01:11 | libsysguy | i was just looking at that item in the db |
| 01:11 | there is no itemtype set.... | |
| 01:11 | rangi | ahhh ha |
| 01:11 | libsysguy | see...this is what makes me crazy about my librarians |
| 01:11 | rangi | it will be matching a different rule then most likely |
| 01:11 | libsysguy | they are always complaining that Koha is broken...but they input the broken data |
| 01:12 | GGGRRRRRR | |
| 01:12 | rangi | probably the default/default |
| 01:13 | libsysguy | yeah probably so... |
| 01:14 | thanks for the help rangi | |
| 01:14 | rangi++ | |
| 01:14 | rangi | no worries |
| 01:14 | if i was you | |
| 01:14 | id do a check of the db | |
| 01:14 | libsysguy | I am about to do that |
| 01:14 | rangi | see how many items dont have an itemtype |
| 01:14 | cool | |
| 01:14 | im gonna get some lunch | |
| 01:14 | libsysguy | I just called my boss and told her we were going to do a full sweep |
| 01:14 | lol alright man | |
| 01:14 | later | |
| 01:18 | when you get back....I just happened to notice...itemtype isn't set in statistics but itype is set in items...do you know where the circ rule pulls from? | |
| 01:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #44: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/44/ |
| 01:18 | robin: Bug 6129 - [3.4.x] this adds an ISSN to serialssolutions URLs | |
| 01:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6129 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , ISSN url param for serialssolutions.com |
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| 02:56 | rangi | itype in items |
| 02:56 | or itemtype in biblioitems | |
| 02:57 | depending on what you have set in systempreferences | |
| 02:57 | most likely itype | |
| 02:57 | * rangi | presumes he will read the logs ;) |
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| 02:57 | cait | morning #koha |
| 02:58 | eythian | Hi cait |
| 03:08 | cait | morning eythian |
| 03:08 | eythian | hello |
| 03:08 | rangi | hey cait, up early again |
| 03:09 | cait | yeah, workshop today |
| 03:09 | train leaves ealry | |
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| 03:23 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
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| 03:25 | cait | bye #koha |
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| 04:02 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3966] receiving items should allow for entering barcode <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3966> |
| 04:29 | bg | NateC? |
| 04:29 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE! |
| 04:29 | bg | YAY! |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea | rangi? |
| 04:29 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! or at work |
| 04:29 | libsysguy | libsysguy? |
| 04:29 | wahanui | i think libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | rpf; |
| 04:30 | rofl | |
| 04:30 | lulz | |
| 04:30 | bg | wizzyrea? |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | HA |
| 04:30 | pwnt | |
| 04:30 | bg | heh |
| 04:30 | rangi | hehe |
| 04:30 | bg | mtj? |
| 04:30 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 04:30 | libsysguy | ^^ hehe |
| 04:30 | bg | that's the best |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | bg? |
| 04:31 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | yay1 |
| 04:31 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | there now I can see my keys |
| 04:31 | phew | |
| 04:31 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZiAAi7GZIA |
| 04:31 | bg | you can see your keys? are you drunk at a bar and can't drive home? |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | no silly it's dark in here and now my keys are glowing |
| 04:32 | so I can see them | |
| 04:32 | because i'm blind | |
| 04:32 | and stuff | |
| 04:32 | bg | you've got keys that can glowe? |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | never mind |
| 04:32 | yea, don't you? | |
| 04:32 | eythian | I also have glowing keys. It's handy |
| 04:32 | bg | my keys don't glow |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 04:33 | don't you have a mac? | |
| 04:33 | bg | they only start the car :( |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | oh lordie |
| 04:33 | rangi | and a nice car it is too |
| 04:33 | bg | sometimes they open the door |
| 04:33 | eythian | or rather, I have a glowing thing on my keyring. |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | all right you literalists |
| 04:35 | rangi | well namibia got spanked |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | kinky |
| 04:35 | rangi | next up, tonga vs canada |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | you get her number? |
| 04:35 | i tease | |
| 04:35 | rangi | wtf are canada even doing here? |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | rofl |
| 04:38 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPupEn4D5tg |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | heeh |
| 04:40 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiqpvPlD-Q0 |
| 04:41 | this one is good from about 1.20 on | |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | I like tuhtles |
| 04:41 | rangi | with the sounds of the teams |
| 04:41 | i like the USA sound :) | |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | oh this can only end badly |
| 04:42 | rangi | but canada is the best, followed closely by scotland |
| 04:42 | (1.05 it starts) | |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
| 04:43 | scotland is pretty wicked too | |
| 04:43 | * wizzyrea | will have nightmares now |
| 04:44 | rangi | hehe yeah |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | "I see ginger people..." |
| 04:44 | rangi | usa v russia tomorrow should be a good one |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | Eff ya! |
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| 05:25 | Oak | hello #koha |
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| 06:10 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:10 | wahanui1 | bonjour, alex_a |
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| 06:47 | francharb | hello |
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| 07:03 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:04 | eythian | hi magnuse. Having a quick go at generating those man pages |
| 07:05 | I'll know soon if it worked, or if I'm understanding something wrong :) | |
| 07:05 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:05 | eythian++ | |
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| 07:06 | magnuse | eythian: talking of which... any chance anyone will have another go at the l10n stuff for the packages in time for the deadlines? |
| 07:07 | eythian | Not sure if package.install runs before or after debian/rules during build, so that's got a 50% chance of working. |
| 07:07 | hmm, I'll see what Srdjan's up to tomorrow. He may be free to look at it. | |
| 07:07 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:08 | one thing i was wondering about: the original man page for koha-create was .8 | |
| 07:09 | according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M[…]e#Manual_sections 8 is for "System administration commands and daemons" is that right? | |
| 07:09 | eythian | yep. |
| 07:09 | The same reason it's in sbin | |
| 07:09 | and needs to be run with sudo | |
| 07:09 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 07:09 | cool | |
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| 07:13 | eythian | /bin/sh: xsltproc: not found |
| 07:13 | rats | |
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| 07:15 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:15 | paul_p | hello magnuse ! |
| 07:15 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:15 | eythian | oh, I see what I did there. Scilly me. |
| 07:15 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:15 | Oak | greetingns francharb, sophie_m, paul_p, eythian :)) |
| 07:15 | eythian | hi |
| 07:15 | wahanui1 | hello, eythian |
| 07:16 | sophie_m | hi 0ak and #koha |
| 07:16 | * paul_p | worked very late yesterday to investigate performance in Koha. I've suggestion to improve speed by 30% (mail to koha-devel soon) |
| 07:16 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:16 | Oak | paul_p++ |
| 07:16 | magnuse | paul_p++ |
| 07:16 | Oak | eythian++ |
| 07:17 | God bless you all | |
| 07:24 | * eythian | tries building this again, with the dependencies done right this time hopefully. |
| 07:24 | magnuse | fingers crossed! |
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| 07:34 | eythian | erk, that failed for inexplicable reasons. |
| 07:35 | magnuse | ouch |
| 07:35 | eythian | pbuilder didn't like me adding stuff to the build-depends |
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| 07:35 | magnuse | shame on pbuilder, then! |
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| 07:36 | eythian | I wonder why... |
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| 07:46 | eythian | ah well, have to go. Will have to try to fix it tomorrow. |
| 07:46 | Oak | later eythian :) |
| 07:47 | eythian | bye |
| 07:51 | kulps | Hey folks, is anyone around? |
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| 07:57 | magnuse | kulps: some ;-) |
| 08:00 | kulps | it could be that its late, or that I've now installed koha 5 times in 4 days but I have a fresh install that's been my smoothest yet |
| 08:00 | I get the admin console, no problem | |
| 08:00 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:00 | kulps | but the OPAC wont load |
| 08:00 | magnuse | ouch |
| 08:00 | kulps | I'm sure its dreafully simple |
| 08:01 | but i just get the default apache page | |
| 08:01 | magnuse | get any error messages in the apache logs? |
| 08:01 | ah, that might be the default site masking it | |
| 08:01 | kulps | no, I'm pretty sure its a config issure |
| 08:01 | I tried to change to ports to test for that | |
| 08:01 | but I dont know if I did it right | |
| 08:01 | magnuse | try "sudo a2dissite default" then reload apache |
| 08:02 | (unless you are actually using the default site for something, of course) | |
| 08:02 | kulps | (I did remember to add a listening port for 8080, which is good, minor progress is being made by my memory) |
| 08:02 | nope | |
| 08:02 | default can go | |
| 08:02 | magnuse | i'd try that |
| 08:03 | kulps | hmm |
| 08:03 | still getting the default | |
| 08:03 | even after the reload | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | hm, that's not so good... |
| 08:04 | kulps | I'm trying to compare it with my working install |
| 08:04 | it all looks good | |
| 08:05 | Oak | hm, i don't think Password reminder at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ptions/koha-devel works |
| 08:05 | waiting for an hour now | |
| 08:05 | nothing in spam either | |
| 08:06 | kulps | magnuse, there are only so many conf files that would act against the OPAC, right? |
| 08:07 | magnuse | kulps: yeah, there are the ones in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 08:07 | kulps | I'm thinking /etc/apach2/sites-available/lib (lib being my instance) |
| 08:08 | magnuse | then there are some in /etc/apache2 |
| 08:08 | like ports.conf | |
| 08:09 | kulps | wait |
| 08:09 | wait | |
| 08:09 | hmmm | |
| 08:09 | no | |
| 08:09 | hmmm | |
| 08:09 | thought it was in ports | |
| 08:09 | but no | |
| 08:10 | magnuse | lib is the only site in /etc/apach2/sites-enabled/ ? |
| 08:11 | kulps | yes |
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| 08:12 | kulps | in my working instance under sites-enabled/koha (the working instance) I see this "ServerName koha.mydomain.co.nz" |
| 08:13 | but on the broken instance I see this "ServerName libents-lib-001" | |
| 08:13 | I dont think this would cause trouble | |
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| 08:13 | kulps | and it's working for the admin console |
| 08:14 | ... | |
| 08:14 | ... | |
| 08:14 | arg. | |
| 08:14 | arg arg. | |
| 08:14 | magnuse sorry to take your time | |
| 08:14 | lesson learned | |
| 08:14 | clear browser cache when things should be fixed. | |
| 08:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6368: unimarc_field_4XX plugin does not work with new templates - corrected <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]023a0e5c7fd441ec9> |
| 08:16 | magnuse | kulps: hehe :-) |
| 08:17 | kulps | brutal |
| 08:17 | but | |
| 08:17 | I now have 2 working installs | |
| 08:17 | which is neat | |
| 08:17 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:17 | kulps | and this one was really fast to get working |
| 08:18 | magnuse | the more often you do it the better you get :-) |
| 08:19 | kulps | I'm not sure how many more times I'll get to do it |
| 08:19 | depending if other hackerspaces are interested in cataloging their libraries | |
| 08:20 | magnuse | you're working for a hackerspace? |
| 08:20 | * Oak | googles hackerspace |
| 08:20 | kulps | Yep |
| 08:20 | It's neat to do my own library | |
| 08:20 | but the spaces library might actually see transactions | |
| 08:21 | HA! | |
| 08:21 | members.ents.ca | |
| 08:21 | I'm sure theres a bunch of security issues I just introduced | |
| 08:21 | but | |
| 08:21 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:21 | kulps | our OPAC is running live off a vm at the space |
| 08:22 | magnuse | how cool is that?!? |
| 08:22 | kulps | you can search for our only entry "windows" |
| 08:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 413 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 26 j ago) |
| 08:22 | kulps | it's a book I have on loan right now, so it was easy to add |
| 08:23 | magnuse | hehe, at least it works ;-) |
| 08:24 | kulps | yup |
| 08:24 | hmm | |
| 08:25 | I built that record from the Toronto Public Library | |
| 08:25 | they seem to have added this "Online Resources: http://ezproxy.torontopublicli[…]lId=9780735625303" | |
| 08:26 | can I just remove that from the biblio record and have it remove from the item record? | |
| 08:26 | are records nested that way? | |
| 08:28 | magnuse | items are attached to biblios, yes |
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| 08:28 | magnuse | some info is stored at the item level and some at the biblio level |
| 08:28 | kulps | is it possible to edit an item without it affecting the bilbio |
| 08:28 | right | |
| 08:29 | and if I have 3 items under the same biblio, I would need to modify each of them seperately if I wanted to make a change, yes? (assuming the edit was at an item-level) | |
| 08:31 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:33 | kulps | neat |
| 08:33 | got that online reseources entry purged | |
| 08:33 | now | |
| 08:34 | before bed, how much do I need to worry about securing the OPAC site? Is it pretty safe out of the box? | |
| 08:35 | magnuse | not my main area of expertise, but there are noe special recommended steps to make it more secure |
| 08:36 | apart from stuff that applies to any web server | |
| 08:36 | like firewalls and such | |
| 08:37 | kulps | right |
| 08:37 | well | |
| 08:38 | I'll probably get learned real good from the guys tomorrow, but for now I think it's a job well started, even if it's not done. | |
| 08:38 | They might want to build a DMZ to put that machine in | |
| 08:38 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981> |
| 08:38 | kulps | I don't know |
| 08:39 | for now it's working, let the spooks figure it out! | |
| 08:39 | Thanks again Magnuse, if our pilot goes well I may end up as the hackerspaces librarian | |
| 08:39 | hopefully I will need less and less help | |
| 08:39 | but also, hopefully I can bring smart people to the project | |
| 08:40 | since most hackerspaces have a few devs milling about | |
| 08:40 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:41 | Oak | kulps++ |
| 08:41 | paul_p | magnuse, (or anyone else) can you confirm this url works for you : http://depot.biblibre.com/ppoulain/nytprof.ini/ ? |
| 08:41 | kulps | you, and everyone else here has been super helpful |
| 08:41 | magnuse | kulps++ |
| 08:41 | kulps | loads for me |
| 08:41 | Oak | yup works paul_p |
| 08:41 | magnuse | paul_p: i see a page called "Performance Profile Index"? |
| 08:42 | paul_p | magnuse, yep. mail to koha-devel to follow ;-) |
| 08:42 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:42 | kulps | well, quarter to three, gotta get to bed so I'm not a wreck tomorrow. Thanks again folks! |
| 08:42 | Oak | take good care kulps :) |
| 08:42 | paul_p | (then I head for 6 hours of train where i'll continue working on that : going to "Librarians in University association annual meeting" ) |
| 08:42 | magnuse | have fun kulps! |
| 08:43 | paul_p | sweet dreams kulps |
| 08:52 | magnuse | long_train_rides++ |
| 09:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #413: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/413/ |
| 09:06 | januszop: Bug 6368: unimarc_field_4XX plugin does not work with new templates - corrected | |
| 09:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6368 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , unimarc_field_4XX plugin does not work with new templates |
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| 10:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2891, cannot manually enter date at reports/issues_stats.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bc774ade606785fa> / bug 6677 - remove reference to 'debarred' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29314f5abc5714b57> |
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| 10:35 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6620 Ensure autoflush is set on output filehandles | |
| 10:35 | * lrea: Bug 6841 - A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) | |
| 10:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6620 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Sip Server Output may be buffered |
| 10:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) | |
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| 11:19 | * nengard: bug 6677 - remove reference to 'debarred' | |
| 11:19 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 2891, cannot manually enter date at reports/issues_stats.pl | |
| 11:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6677 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , patron stats still refers to debarred |
| 11:19 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 6829: Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail |
| 11:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2891 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot manually enter dates in some report forms |
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| 13:02 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
| 13:03 | magnuse | afternoon libsysguy |
| 13:04 | libsysguy | heh silly time differences |
| 13:05 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 13:09 | libsysguy | seen rangi |
| 13:09 | wahanui1 | rangi was last seen on #koha 8 hours, 24 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: usa v russia tomorrow should be a good one [Wed Sep 14 04:44:44 2011] |
| 13:10 | libsysguy | @later tell rangi this is how I feel when squashing bugs in Koha http://soundcloud.com/doverspi[…]-punk-technologic |
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| 13:10 | libsysguy | wizzyrea might also appreciate that |
| 13:19 | @later tell wizzyrea http://soundcloud.com/doverspi[…]-punk-technologic = bug squishing music | |
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| 14:00 | andersonbd1 | I'm getting closer, but now stuck on a handful of modules. I haven't been successful install via apt-get (not found?) or via cpan. Here's the first one: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=x3xdxpLj |
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| 14:03 | wizzyrea | andersonbd1: can you do sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl |
| 14:03 | and see if that will install | |
| 14:03 | (have you been doing these via cpan or packages?) | |
| 14:03 | and good morning peeps | |
| 14:03 | :) | |
| 14:03 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! :) |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | hiyaaaaa |
| 14:04 | also sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl | |
| 14:05 | and sudo apt-get install libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl | |
| 14:05 | that should hit the required ones | |
| 14:06 | also, looks like you were trying to do serialize with cpan | |
| 14:06 | it's probably sudo cpan -i CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml | |
| 14:07 | * wizzyrea | does work. |
| 14:09 | wizzyrea | libsysguy that's a great song |
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| 14:49 | wizzyrea | in accountlines, does anyone know |
| 14:49 | what is "accountno" | |
| 14:49 | what does that denote? | |
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| 14:53 | sekjal | wizzyrea: taken with borrowernumber, the two fields form as close to a key as you're going to get |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 14:54 | ok so | |
| 14:54 | what if you have about 50 of them with the same accountnumber? | |
| 14:54 | sekjal | same patron? |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | multiple patrons, actually |
| 14:54 | sekjal | that's okay |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | all of them exhibit the same sympton |
| 14:55 | sekjal | it's only a problem if (borrowernumber,accountno) is not a unique combo |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | they pay a fine, and the amountoutstanding gets 0'd out |
| 14:55 | even if that's not right | |
| 14:55 | ah, then we had/have a problem | |
| 14:55 | sekjal | eep |
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| 14:56 | wizzyrea | big pastebin inc |
| 14:56 | andersonbd1 | thanks wizzyrea. that's the strategy I'd been following (apt-get). Where I got confused is that the module names were chopped off in the ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m command |
| 14:57 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "accountlines - see the borrowernumbers/acctno combos that have the 32767" (101 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/36 |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | did that help at all? |
| 14:58 | sekjal | wizzyrea: I see |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | I think |
| 14:59 | there is a data problem in our accountlines | |
| 14:59 | sekjal | 32767... seems to come up a couple times |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | exactly! |
| 15:00 | and it looks like it's still happening on new fines | |
| 15:01 | sekjal | 32767 is the maximum possible value for accountno |
| 15:01 | since it's of type 'smallint' | |
| 15:01 | trea | ^^ |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | LOL |
| 15:01 | sekjal | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]umeric-types.html |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | so we've exceeded the field |
| 15:01 | trea | i knew it seemed familiar somehow |
| 15:01 | :D | |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | uh |
| 15:01 | how to fix it :) | |
| 15:03 | we have 2100 accounts that would be susceptible to fine zeroiing | |
| 15:03 | sekjal | does any individual patron have more than 32767 fines/payments entries? |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | I would find that very surprising |
| 15:04 | sekjal | so the repair is to reset the accountnumbers sequentially, starting from 1 |
| 15:04 | * wizzyrea | will file a bug to suggest fixing the column type |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | to prevent this for others |
| 15:04 | sekjal | the fix is going to be something else |
| 15:05 | somewhere, in the code somewhere (or some when) the accountno was not incrementing properly | |
| 15:05 | either through a bad SQL, or a mis-directed variable, or both | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | well it's happening now |
| 15:05 | on new fines on our system | |
| 15:06 | and if 32767 is the max for the column | |
| 15:06 | oh wait | |
| 15:06 | I see | |
| 15:06 | what you're saying | |
| 15:06 | you're saying that accountno for *each patron* is supposed to increment by 1 | |
| 15:06 | and sometime/where it was incrementing the whole table | |
| 15:07 | * wizzyrea | tries to find the oldest incidence |
| 15:07 | sekjal | possibly |
| 15:07 | a larger number than intended was put in the accountno field, somehow | |
| 15:07 | * wizzyrea | considers suggesting a fine amnesty |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | :{P |
| 15:08 | :P | |
| 15:08 | trea | i like :{P - it's like a guy with a handlebar moustache |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 15:09 | magnuse | :-{) |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | :-{)> |
| 15:09 | goatee | |
| 15:10 | magnuse | heh |
| 15:11 | }:{)> | |
| 15:11 | big furry eyebrows, handlebar moustache and a goatee... | |
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| 15:12 | wizzyrea | the first occurrence of this was april 15 this year |
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| 15:50 | sekjal | found the root of the problem |
| 15:50 | writeoffs are corrupting the data | |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ |
| 15:52 | sekjal | oh, hey, and it's fixed in master |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | WOOT! |
| 15:53 | sekjal | with the recently pushed bug 3498 |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
| 15:53 | libsysguy | even better |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | LOLOL |
| 15:53 | libsysguy | bug fix by surpriese |
| 15:53 | * wizzyrea | lol's all over the place |
| 15:53 | libsysguy | surprise** |
| 15:53 | sekjal | thank you Colin Campbell |
| 15:53 | this is why we need git reward in addition to git blame | |
| 15:53 | magnuse | hehe |
| 15:54 | sekjal | so it's just matter of writing the cleanup script |
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| 15:57 | wizzyrea | so. excited |
| 15:57 | woot :D | |
| 15:58 | colin's not here, what's his usual nick? | |
| 15:58 | oleonard | Colin I think |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | @seen colin_c |
| 15:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: I have not seen colin_c. |
| 15:59 | oleonard | That's what I see on the irc stats page |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | @seen colin |
| 15:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: colin was last seen in #koha 35 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 56 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <Colin> Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe Ltd |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | colin++ |
| 15:59 | oleonard | @karma colin |
| 15:59 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "colin" has been increased 28 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 26. |
| 16:14 | kulps | Hey folks, is there a guide to enabling self checkout? I searched the wiki but didnt come up with much. I enabled it in the admin menu (I think) but don't know where to go now. |
| 16:15 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl |
| 16:15 | kulps | found that |
| 16:15 | what do I need to do with it? | |
| 16:16 | sorry, I've only been using Koha for a few days | |
| 16:16 | rhcl | RE: email regarding printing with Linux -- I intend to take a good look at printing from FF/Koha on Linux "when I get the time". We have never been entirely successful with it so far. |
| 16:17 | oleonard | kulps: Have you read this? http://koha-community.org/docu[…]nual-en/?ch=x8658 |
| 16:17 | kulps | not yet |
| 16:17 | thanks | |
| 16:17 | I'll read it and get back to you | |
| 16:17 | what's better, the faq or the wiki? | |
| 16:17 | or do I need to check both? | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | The official documentation first |
| 16:19 | kulps | noted |
| 16:19 | thanks for your help, I'll see what I can do | |
| 16:22 | sekjal | accountlines really needs a primary key.... ::grumble:: |
| 16:25 | oleonard | sekjal: I just saw the article in Library Journal about ByWater and CAUSE |
| 16:25 | Really interesting that Koha's use of standard ports was a selling point for the military. | |
| 16:25 | sekjal | oleonard: oh, really? I haven't read my most recently received copy |
| 16:26 | will have to dig it out | |
| 16:26 | oleonard | page 21 |
| 16:27 | "..there were also technical reasons [for the switch], as Koha uses standard computer-network ports--a military requirement that Derrow told LJ was 'an issue' with a previous software provider, which she declined to name." | |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | standards++ |
| 16:30 | sekjal | will look once I can find it (a little too much paper floating around right now) |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | this makes me think of natec: http://pinterest.com/pin/195080383/ |
| 16:48 | sekjal | NateC? |
| 16:48 | wahanui1 | I LIKE SPACE! |
| 17:01 | kulps | oleonard, which military? |
| 17:01 | * kulps | does not get Library Journal |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | presumably the US military? |
| 17:01 | oleonard | US military |
| 17:01 | Libraries which support US military veterans | |
| 17:04 | kulps | too bad it wasnt the navy, they would have contracted it out |
| 17:04 | and you all could have made a killing | |
| 17:05 | * kulps | pokes fun at NMCI |
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| 18:05 | chris_n | @later tell cait should http://tinyurl.com/5r7nnnv apply to 3.4.x? |
| 18:05 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:05 | chris_n | @later tell kf should http://tinyurl.com/5r7nnnv apply to 3.4.x? |
| 18:05 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:05 | oleonard | chris_n, are you applying all the other 6458 patches to 3.4.x? |
| 18:06 | chris_n | yes, but the above mentioned one does not apply cleanly |
| 18:06 | it looks to be based on an earlier commit which did not land in 3.4.x | |
| 18:07 | oleonard | That template has had several modifications in the last couple of months |
| 18:09 | chris_n | if I missed one that should be there please let me know |
| 18:09 | rhcl | oleonard: were you referring to the September issue of LJ? |
| 18:09 | oleonard | rhcl: Yes |
| 18:09 | rhcl | I need to track our copy down. |
| 18:10 | oleonard | It's not a full-blown article, just a blurb, but interesting nonetheless. |
| 18:10 | * oleonard | is getting frustrated with the last remaining fix for bug 6458 |
| 18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 18:10 | libsysguy | sekjal |
| 18:11 | sekjal | libsysguy |
| 18:11 | wahanui1 | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 18:11 | libsysguy | fines is broken in hourly |
| 18:11 | :'( | |
| 18:11 | are broken** | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | define broken |
| 18:11 | libsysguy | like all fines are not accruing correctly |
| 18:11 | sekjal | libsysguy: all fines, even on day-based loans? |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | yes all of them |
| 18:12 | and I think I know why...I'm working on a fix | |
| 18:12 | sekjal | cool |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | its in CalcFine |
| 18:12 | I just wanted to let you know so you could hold off on testing | |
| 18:12 | I feel bad for passing it now :'( | |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | fix it and you'll be redeemed :) |
| 18:13 | otherwise: | |
| 18:13 | * wizzyrea | readies the bull whip |
| 18:14 | libsysguy | I go to programmer hell hehe |
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| 18:15 | libsysguy | I see this line in master |
| 18:15 | # use copy-pasted functions from calendar module. (deprecated -- these functions will be removed from C4::Overdues ). | |
| 18:16 | does that mean the functions following it will be removed? | |
| 18:16 | oleonard | The enrichment center reminds you that developer hell is real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance. |
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| 18:17 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | caait |
| 18:18 | cait | hi there |
| 18:18 | libsysguy | cait!! |
| 18:18 | cait | you were not missing me, weren't you? :) |
| 18:19 | libsysguy | I was :( |
| 18:19 | cait | @later tell chris_n: it should if owen's first patch to this has been applied |
| 18:19 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:19 | cait | aw |
| 18:19 | were talking about koha to libraries all day | |
| 18:19 | now all I want is stop thinking | |
| 18:20 | was talking... | |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | I was missing you :) |
| 18:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 45 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 18:25 | cait | wizzyrea: sql report? :P |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea | no, I was missing your wit and charm :)_ |
| 18:26 | cait | sounds unlikely :) |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | lol! |
| 18:26 | all true | |
| 18:26 | you believe what you want to ;) | |
| 18:26 | cait | yep |
| 18:26 | :) | |
| 18:29 | rangi | i was missing your cookies |
| 18:29 | * libsysguy | wants cookies |
| 18:30 | libsysguy | there was a guy with brownies in my phys class this morning |
| 18:30 | * libsysguy | got none |
| 18:30 | sekjal | wait, brownies, what? |
| 18:30 | * sekjal | looks away for a second, and there is dessert |
| 18:31 | libsysguy | well of course...we should make Koha Cookies |
| 18:31 | branding ftw | |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | you know we have a community cookie |
| 18:31 | libsysguy | 0_0 |
| 18:31 | rangi | yup |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | bug 5158 |
| 18:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | why are there bugs in our tasty treats? |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:33 | * cait | sents rangi cookies |
| 18:34 | cait | oh |
| 18:34 | I showed that to the library today! | |
| 18:34 | the bug | |
| 18:34 | rangi | hehe |
| 18:34 | right kahu 'needs' to use my computer | |
| 18:34 | cait | does he want to write you an email? :) |
| 18:34 | rangi | "I have to send some emails, im a busy man" |
| 18:34 | so im gonna go have a shower, bbiab | |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | lol did he really say that |
| 18:37 | kahu++ | |
| 18:38 | maximep | wow, that's the best bug report ever |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:39 | sekjal: bug 6868 | |
| 18:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6868 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Need a script to fix bad accountno data in accountlines |
| 18:39 | * wizzyrea | loves getting symmetrical bug numbers |
| 18:40 | cait | :) |
| 18:40 | sekjal | anyone have opinions on whether the logic should live in it's own script, or be included as part of updatedatabase.pl? or both? |
| 18:41 | libsysguy | the logic? |
| 18:41 | oleonard | Which is easier for people installing/upgrading? |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | people installing won't be affected |
| 18:41 | only people upgrading | |
| 18:41 | libsysguy | way to think of people actually using Koha oleonard |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | well, people installing versions above 3.4 |
| 18:42 | chris_n may want to consider snatching some parts of bug 3498 to mitigate this for 3.4 | |
| 18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
| 18:42 | sekjal | anybody who did writeoffs before bug 3498 was integrated is effected by this |
| 18:42 | most folks will never notice | |
| 18:43 | but when you have lots of fines | |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | you'll notice |
| 18:43 | eventually | |
| 18:43 | sekjal | you start to hit the max value of accountno |
| 18:43 | chris_n | cait: that patch relies on a series which appear to begin with bug 5252 |
| 18:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5252 enhancement, P5, ---, nengard, REOPENED , Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | when that happens: kablooey |
| 18:43 | cait | hm |
| 18:43 | yeah tha tmight have interfered with it probably | |
| 18:43 | sekjal | now, this WILL happen eventually, even with 3498 in place |
| 18:43 | cait | I have to check that |
| 18:44 | really too tired now | |
| 18:44 | sekjal | but it'll take many many years, instead of a few months |
| 18:44 | chris_n | cait: if that looks right to you, I'll go ahead and apply all those to 3.4.x |
| 18:44 | cait | all those from 5252? |
| 18:44 | or from the translation thing? | |
| 18:44 | chris_n | both since the translation ones depend on 5252 |
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| 18:45 | * chris_n | considers the phone labels a very minor enh |
| 18:45 | cait | oh ok |
| 18:45 | it sound sok tome | |
| 18:50 | pastebot | "libsysguy" at 129.114.242.85 pasted "Hourly issue" (67 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/37 |
| 18:50 | libsysguy | can somebody look at that for me and give me your thoughts |
| 18:50 | chris_n | kablooey? |
| 18:51 | libsysguy | I know there is a bug because $chargeduration->days doesn't return the right value |
| 18:51 | but it does it randomly from what I can tell | |
| 18:52 | chris_n | wizzyrea: which part of 3498 would you have applied to 3.4.x? |
| 18:52 | sekjal | libsysguy: $charge_duration->{'days'} |
| 18:52 | instead? | |
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| 18:52 | libsysguy | well hours gets called by $chargeduration->hours(); |
| 18:53 | so that is what I'm confused | |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | 1s I'd have to poke at it |
| 18:53 | :) | |
| 18:53 | * chris_n | hands wizzyrea a stick |
| 18:53 | sekjal | libsysguy: ah, this looks like object oriented Perl |
| 18:53 | libsysguy | yes it is the new calendar module |
| 18:53 | * sekjal | has less experience with that |
| 18:54 | chris_n | so what does the days method do? |
| 18:54 | libsysguy | interestingly enough...there is no sub for it |
| 18:54 | oh | |
| 18:54 | wait | |
| 18:55 | chargeduration is a call to days_between | |
| 18:57 | I don't really understand the whole truncate to hours then 5 lines down truncate to days with no hourly calc | |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #45: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/45/ |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5234 - Remove unused CSS files | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove unused CSS files |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / patron-attr-types | |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / clone-rules | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / branches | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6458, incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:02 | * januszop: Bug 6368: unimarc_field_4XX plugin does not work with new templates - corrected | |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6368 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED , unimarc_field_4XX plugin does not work with new templates |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 6620 Ensure autoflush is set on output filehandles |
| 19:02 | * lrea: Bug 6841 - A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) | |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6620 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Sip Server Output may be buffered |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: bug 6677 - remove reference to 'debarred' |
| 19:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 2891, cannot manually enter date at reports/issues_stats.pl | |
| 19:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) |
| 19:03 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 6829: Remove two warnings for opac-MARCdetail |
| 19:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6677 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , patron stats still refers to debarred |
| 19:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2891 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot manually enter dates in some report forms | |
| 19:06 | cait | libsysguy: the line you were referring to earlier in the logs - about the copypasteoverdue thing - it's been in there like forever |
| 19:07 | libsysguy: if you are in there... can you check that a grace period of 3 and a fine interval of 7 actually gives you the first fine after 3 days of grace period? :) | |
| 19:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 46 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:07 | libsysguy | wouldn't it take 7 days to check |
| 19:07 | err 10 | |
| 19:07 | * libsysguy | can't add |
| 19:09 | cait | libsysguy: duedate - grace period 3 fine seven days later another fine... and so on |
| 19:09 | but what it does do is fine interval = enforced minimum grace period | |
| 19:09 | which is evil | |
| 19:10 | it works perfectly for charging periods like 1 | |
| 19:10 | but not for higher numbers | |
| 19:10 | * cait | grumbles |
| 19:10 | libsysguy | oh? so its a 24 hour grace period regardless |
| 19:10 | ohh | |
| 19:10 | i see | |
| 19:10 | cait | not sur eif it changed for hourly |
| 19:10 | that's why I told you - in hope oyu might be able to check :) | |
| 19:10 | libsysguy | yeah that whole function changed |
| 19:11 | cait | and because I gave you cookies... and I am nice (sometimes)... and... more cookies? |
| 19:11 | * libsysguy | is full, fat, and happy :) |
| 19:12 | has a new favorite perl line | |
| 19:13 | libsysguy | use Carp; |
| 19:13 | cait | so cookies will not work? |
| 19:13 | :) | |
| 19:13 | libsysguy | as a bribe? |
| 19:13 | I would check it for you regardless cait | |
| 19:13 | cait | aww |
| 19:14 | ok, normal setting for us would be something like 2 days grace, charge interval weekly and some fine like 1.50 | |
| 19:14 | and in my perfect world it owuld give you the first fine 2 days after due date | |
| 19:14 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 19:15 | so right now it is giving you 2 days after the interval | |
| 19:15 | so 9 days after the due date | |
| 19:17 | cait | something liek that yes |
| 19:17 | last tested in 3.2.2 i have to confess | |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 19:17 | cait | but not aware of any changes soon after that or in the 3.2.x |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | well there is that new OOP Calendar module |
| 19:19 | cait | lots of changes for short loans I guess |
| 19:19 | libsysguy | yes there are quite a few |
| 19:20 | * oleonard | finally tracks down the stupid typo he was sure was causing his problems of the last few hours |
| 19:21 | cait | oleonard: cookie? |
| 19:21 | wahanui1 | cookie is being set in the browser? |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | oleonard: ice cream? |
| 19:21 | forget cookie | |
| 19:21 | wahanui1 | wizzyrea: I forgot cookie |
| 19:21 | * oleonard | checks his watch. Too early for what he needs. |
| 19:22 | cait | but you found the problem |
| 19:22 | I found a lot of i18n problems in my presentation today :( | |
| 19:22 | some quite embarassing typos | |
| 19:22 | * cait | sighs |
| 19:22 | cait | lots of cleaning up to do |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | cookie is bug 5158 |
| 19:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
| 19:24 | oleonard | The good news is I think Bug 6458 is vanquished, for now. |
| 19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:25 | libsysguy | I have a DateTime::Duration object that I call ->days on...the object has 13 months 0 days 863 minutes and I get 0 for days |
| 19:28 | rangi | back |
| 19:28 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6458] incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458> |
| 19:29 | rangi | oleonard: ill try to push the new patches |
| 19:29 | today | |
| 19:29 | * chris_n | empathizes with oleonard's typo hunt |
| 19:29 | chris_n | heya rangi |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | anybody familiar with the DateTime::Duration module? |
| 19:30 | rangi | probably colin |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | I think I found the problem I just want to make sure I'm not crazy |
| 19:30 | rangi | man pages tell ya anything? |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | yeah...you can't convert from months to days |
| 19:31 | also there was an error in the CalcFine code | |
| 19:31 | rangi | you have to convert first, then call duration? |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | it just says its not supported...that is what I wanted to ask about...just make sure I was reading it right |
| 19:32 | rangi | well a month could be 28, 29, 30, 31 |
| 19:32 | days | |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | right |
| 19:32 | rangi | so it makes sense |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | I thought manip supported that kind of weird date manipulation |
| 19:33 | rangi | for a specific month yes |
| 19:33 | 1 month | |
| 19:33 | who knows 2011-09 you could do | |
| 19:33 | that make sense? | |
| 19:34 | ill read the man when I get off the bus | |
| 19:34 | but thats my guess why | |
| 19:34 | libsysguy | ok...i may try and see if date::calc will do it |
| 19:34 | rangi | what exactly are u trying to convert? |
| 19:34 | a specific month, or range of months | |
| 19:35 | libsysguy | well just how ever long the overdue is |
| 19:35 | rangi | or the phrase 1 month? |
| 19:35 | why would it ever be in months? | |
| 19:35 | libsysguy | dude...our librarians are insane about holding a grudge for fines |
| 19:35 | they keep them...like forever | |
| 19:35 | rangi | I know |
| 19:35 | but still days | |
| 19:36 | we have some 4578 days overdue | |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | so my duration hash has 13 months 867 minutes and 57 seconds in it |
| 19:36 | and when i call ->days I get 0 | |
| 19:36 | rangi | ah so it is converting |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 19:36 | then not wanting to convert back | |
| 19:37 | rangi | can u make it not do that? |
| 19:37 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 19:37 | maybe | |
| 19:37 | but it does it in koha::calendar | |
| 19:37 | so I don't want to break that lol | |
| 19:37 | rangi | hmm |
| 19:38 | libsysguy | yeah im slightly stumped |
| 19:39 | I guess I'm the only one using hourly because that DateCalc function was all kinds of broken | |
| 19:39 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6869] Batch item modification fails if accented characters are used in the modification form. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6869> |
| 19:39 | rangi | you know what, id update the bug |
| 19:39 | make sure colin is cced | |
| 19:39 | since koha::calendar is his code | |
| 19:39 | and see what he has to say, mean while you can do a local patch for calcfines to not use duration maybe? | |
| 19:39 | use date::calc isntead | |
| 19:39 | you sure are | |
| 19:39 | libsysguy | Im ashamed I didn't catch it |
| 19:39 | rangi | no worries |
| 19:39 | thats why we have 3 levels of signoff for big stuff | |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | ok I'll ping colin and see what he thinks |
| 19:40 | yeah for sure | |
| 19:41 | rangi | thanks for testing |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | thanks for helping me |
| 19:41 | rangi | no worries |
| 19:41 | what was the calcfine bug? | |
| 19:42 | fixing that will catch all but the really old overdues (which hopefully already have fines) | |
| 19:42 | libsysguy | it was calling DateTime::Duration Object ->days instead of -> in_units() |
| 19:42 | ('days') | |
| 19:42 | ** | |
| 19:43 | same deal for hours | |
| 19:43 | so basically the entire diff for the dates was off | |
| 19:43 | sekjal | libsysguy: you've done a great job testing Hourly Loans, and you're continuing to do so |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | is totally kidding |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | no, you fail! Good day! |
| 19:44 | there, does that satisfy you? | |
| 19:44 | libsysguy | did wizzyrea lose it? |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:44 | libsysguy | and thanks sekjal |
| 19:44 | sekjal | rangi: did you catch up on back-conversation about the problem with the writeoff subroutine in accounts (pre-bug3498)? |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: I was "giving you the punishment you (deserve) expect" |
| 19:45 | rangi | yup |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | 0_0 |
| 19:45 | sekjal | rangi: recommendations on whether the cleanup should be done as part of updatedatabase.pl or as a separate script? |
| 19:46 | rangi | hmmm |
| 19:46 | sep script | |
| 19:46 | sekjal | takes about 5 min to run on a NEKLS-sized system |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | pretty much everybody *ought* to run it if it's an upgrade |
| 19:46 | rangi | bet it will take longer on hlt one |
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| 19:47 | rangi | 11.5 years of accounts |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | how many lines in hlt accountlines? |
| 19:47 | i'm amazed they haven't hit the limit | |
| 19:47 | rangi | millions |
| 19:47 | sekjal | depends on the number of patrons, and how often writeoff was used |
| 19:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #46: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/46/ |
| 19:47 | * nengard: Bug 5252 - Phone labels on patron creation | |
| 19:47 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 19:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5252 enhancement, P5, ---, nengard, REOPENED , Emails & Phones On Patron Add/Edit form |
| 19:47 | jenkins_koha | * katrin.fischer: Fix for Bug 6458 Follow-up for memberentrygen.tt |
| 19:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:48 | rangi | the only thing id worry about is apache timeouts |
| 19:48 | sekjal | each individual has a limit of 32767 lines currently... but writeoffs make folks hit that sooner than they normally would |
| 19:48 | cait | sekjal: there was an old bug for writeoff |
| 19:48 | sekjal: telling it will corrupt data -but noone ever told me how and why | |
| 19:49 | bug 2632 | |
| 19:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2632 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Writeoff Fines Need Improvements |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | well i haven't observed it not working |
| 19:49 | sekjal | yes, just looking at that |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | it seems to work fine |
| 19:49 | just doesn't/didn't increment accountno correctly | |
| 19:49 | sekjal | there could be other problems in addition to taht |
| 19:50 | all this will be moot once the accountlines structure is updated | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | always :) |
| 19:51 | but like I said, we obviously use it all the time, and have had no complaints that it's not working correctly | |
| 19:51 | except for the stinger today | |
| 19:51 | rangi | well wed need to port the fix to 3.r |
| 19:51 | gah | |
| 19:51 | 3.4.x too | |
| 19:54 | sekjal | I think we could do the 3.4.x fix with a couple quick lines in members/pay.pl |
| 19:54 | use the correct subroutine to get the next account number, instead of the buggy SQL | |
| 19:54 | rangi | hmm if we changed updatabase to warn it might take a long time, before it ran, then in there might be ok |
| 19:54 | yep | |
| 19:55 | I propose we chabg | |
| 19:55 | man bumpy ride | |
| 19:55 | we change the column too to integer | |
| 19:56 | just in case someone does legit do that many per borrowernumber | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | it seems like it could be possible |
| 19:56 | to get that high | |
| 19:56 | though unlikely | |
| 19:56 | sekjal | my cleanup script is ready to upload to the bug report; I can put the logic into an updatedatabase.pl update as well, including the redefinition of the accountno column |
| 19:56 | rangi | I could see an institution doing it |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 19:57 | sekjal++ | |
| 19:57 | rangi | cool |
| 19:58 | sekjal | okay, so three attachments: cleanup script, patch with cleanup in updatedatabase.pl, and patch of ported fix for 3.4.x |
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| 20:00 | wizzyrea | awesomesauce |
| 20:01 | sekjal | will upload the clean up script now; the others will take a bit of time to complete |
| 20:02 | chris_n | sekjal: will it make 3.4.5? |
| 20:02 | sekjal | chris_n: likely |
| 20:02 | chris_n | cool |
| 20:04 | rangi | my stop bbiab |
| 20:04 | cait | and time to get some sleep for me |
| 20:04 | good night all | |
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| 20:23 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6870] [enh] allow opac-userupdate.pl to use the patron's email as 'from' address <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6870> |
| 20:24 | oleonard | Nice. |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | wow colin is made of win today |
| 20:29 | see that patch for bug 3638 - that is an oooold NEKLS wishlist item | |
| 20:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface |
| 20:29 | rangi | yeah, ptfs europe are nothing like their cousins |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | ptfs-e++ |
| 20:30 | libsysguy | rangi do you know how holidays currently work? |
| 20:30 | before OOP koha | |
| 20:30 | rangi | yeah, i never get any |
| 20:30 | oh you mean in koha | |
| 20:30 | nope | |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | i'd take that as a no |
| 20:31 | ;) | |
| 20:31 | can you define your question, libsysguy? | |
| 20:32 | libsysguy | well...with Koha::Calendar all the dates/holidays revolves around this module |
| 20:32 | but what about the old one? | |
| 20:33 | rangi | C4::Calendar |
| 20:33 | its all in there | |
| 20:37 | was that what you were asking? | |
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| 20:43 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 20:43 | druthb | hi, rangi! |
| 20:45 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6458' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e23abbe1cda357150> / Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c503e6afd989a3ed> / Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http:// |
| 20:51 | libsysguy | hey guys sorry i went afk |
| 20:52 | anyway I was just wondering if C4::Calendar handled dates the same way as Koha::Calendar | |
| 20:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 416 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 27 j ago) |
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| 21:31 | libsysguy | I am about to ask a newb question...just a fair warning |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | @quote get 145 |
| 21:31 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 21:32 | libsysguy | can someone explain to me the difference between a date and a delta |
| 21:32 | aww thanks wizzyrea | |
| 21:32 | rangi | looking at date::calc libsysguy ? |
| 21:32 | libsysguy | looking at Date::Manip |
| 21:33 | rangi | dont use that |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | aww |
| 21:33 | rangi | Date::Manip is slow |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | yeah its big |
| 21:33 | rangi | it will slow down everything like circ |
| 21:33 | a patch with date::manip will not get pushed | |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | who needs circ anway :p |
| 21:33 | well Calc really isn't that much smaller | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | rangi lays down the law |
| 21:33 | I like it | |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | heh |
| 21:33 | rangi | its not size its speed |
| 21:34 | * libsysguy | will forget how much he loves manip |
| 21:34 | rangi | manip is fine for doing things that are needing to be fast |
| 21:34 | but it even warns you itself | |
| 21:34 | libsysguy | yeah it does |
| 21:34 | its monolithic | |
| 21:34 | rangi | its more the way its written |
| 21:35 | its not intended to be fast | |
| 21:35 | but complete | |
| 21:35 | Date::Calc will do all you need | |
| 21:35 | libsysguy | yes sir |
| 21:36 | rangi | have you looked at C4::Dates ? |
| 21:36 | libsysguy | I haven't |
| 21:36 | rangi | might be Koha::Dates in 5549 |
| 21:36 | libsysguy | just been plunking around in calendar |
| 21:36 | rangi | yeah look at that module |
| 21:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #416: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/416/ |
| 21:36 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 21:36 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 21:36 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 21:36 | libsysguy | I see DateUtils |
| 21:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 21:36 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 21:40 | rangi | here to make you feel better |
| 21:40 | http://crappypictures.typepad.[…]-my-children.html | |
| 21:40 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | can relate to the puke in hands thing |
| 21:41 | libsysguy | GROSS!! |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | you call me when you have a kid and tell me what you do when it's the carpet or your hands |
| 21:41 | ;) | |
| 21:42 | libsysguy | if we keep talking about puke I may not have to wait for kids |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | oh cool, you can just puke in your own hands :) |
| 21:42 | libsysguy | I was afraid that may not have come accross |
| 21:42 | ok i gotta get out of here for today | |
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| 21:43 | rangi | @later tell libsysguy PUKE!!! PUKE!! VOMIT!! UPCHUCK!! RALPH!! |
| 21:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:45 | rangi | http://wimp.com/babygorilla/ |
| 21:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 417 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 27 j ago) |
| 21:46 | rangi | right, this time! |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | lol you crack me up rangi |
| 21:55 | rhcl | wizzyrea and gmcharlt : looks like the university students have decided to work on the public access computer project |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | woohoo |
| 21:56 | gmcharlt | coolness |
| 21:56 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:56 | rhcl | BTW, our children's playstation is pretty much finished; I just have to do the documentation. I'm thinking, however, that it' |
| 21:56 | ... | |
| 21:57 | it's going to be a bit more complicated that what may first come to mind | |
| 21:58 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/r[…]r-Cold-War-battle |
| 22:16 | * moodaepo | reads rangi's link and thinks for a second that there are Cold War reenactment groups in NZ |
| 22:17 | rangi | heh |
| 22:17 | moodaepo | Oh it is rugby...Russians play rugby? |
| 22:17 | rangi | yup |
| 22:17 | first time they have qualified for the world cup though | |
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| 22:20 | moodaepo | Yea just finished reading the article, haven't watched rugby in a while. |
| 22:29 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 22:29 | Project Koha_master build #417: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/417/ | |
| 22:30 | rangi | w00t! |
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| 23:44 | druthb | o/ |
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