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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | em | :s |
| 00:02 | eythian | libtemplate-perl rather |
| 00:02 | em | lol, ok |
| 00:02 | found :) | |
| 00:02 | also, after make test failed, i cant save any new items :( | |
| 00:02 | oh, nevermind | |
| 00:03 | that is my fault | |
| 00:03 | ignore ^^ | |
| 00:03 | finshed installing, re-doing make | |
| 00:05 | doing make test | |
| 00:07 | works | |
| 00:07 | the make test | |
| 00:07 | :D | |
| 00:07 | oh no | |
| 00:07 | there was an error :( | |
| 00:08 | chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' | |
| 00:08 | make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 | |
| 00:09 | eythian | you didn't create a user and group called 'koha' |
| 00:09 | em | how do i do that? |
| 00:11 | eythian | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adding+a+user+in+linux |
| 00:11 | em | thanks |
| 00:11 | that is just ads ... | |
| 00:11 | oh | |
| 00:11 | never mind | |
| 00:12 | Help | |
| 00:12 | useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd | |
| 00:13 | eythian | use sudo |
| 00:14 | em | ok |
| 00:16 | re-doing | |
| 00:20 | doing sudo make upgrade | |
| 00:21 | worked :D | |
| 00:22 | are you still here, can i ask you to help me again? | |
| 00:22 | i have another problem | |
| 00:22 | not really a problem, just i need help with code | |
| 00:23 | ... | |
| 00:23 | i'll take that as a no? | |
| 00:25 | eythian | if it's quick, I'm doing other stuff at the same time, and am probably going to have a meeting soon. |
| 00:26 | em | ok |
| 00:26 | i need to know how to turn on zebra | |
| 00:27 | eythian | which aspect of that, it's not a small question. Do you mean the server, or the reindexing tasks, or having Koha talk to it? |
| 00:27 | em | server |
| 00:27 | on update, it stops working | |
| 00:28 | i think its shut off | |
| 00:28 | eythian | what do you mean "on update"? |
| 00:28 | em | i just upgraded koha |
| 00:28 | eythian | is the zebrasrv process running? |
| 00:28 | em | after that, my searches broke |
| 00:29 | thats what i need to find out | |
| 00:29 | eythian | ps ax|grep zebra |
| 00:29 | if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not | |
| 00:30 | em | i dont see zebrasrv, but i see zebra in red |
| 00:30 | if it is not on, how do i turn the zebrasrv on? | |
| 00:31 | eythian | I don't know your setup. You may have an init script in /etc/init.d/ (probably called 'koha') that starts it. |
| 00:31 | em | ok, thanks |
| 00:37 | umm, still confused about turning on zebrasrv | |
| 00:38 | can someone please email me on how to turn on zebrasrv at emery.cairnsgmail.com as i need to go but need to get it fixed asap :o |
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| 00:41 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:41 | lastnode | i setup iptables last night and it has blocked everything incoming except 80,8080 and 22 |
| 00:41 | mysql listens but on localhost | |
| 00:41 | i should be fine, right? | |
| 00:49 | eythian | lastnode: yep |
| 00:49 | em | hey, can someone help me turn on zebrasrv |
| 00:49 | lastnode | eythian: thanks, mate. i installed fail2ban last night. i installed it while a japanese ip was hitting me with a bruteforce |
| 00:49 | my vps has ben up 3 days | |
| 00:49 | teh Internet is brutal yo :( | |
| 00:50 | druthb left #koha | |
| 00:50 | eythian | yeah, I installed that too. It's a dangerous place out there :) |
| 00:50 | * eythian | lunches |
| 00:50 | em | can someone help me turn on zebrasrv |
| 00:50 | lastnode | eythian: do you run sshd on 22 or a non standard port? |
| 00:53 | em | ... |
| 00:58 | uhh | |
| 00:58 | i geuss people left | |
| 00:58 | lastnode | em: eythian is lunching |
| 00:58 | hang around :) | |
| 00:59 | em | launchin means what? |
| 00:59 | lastnode | em: eating lunch. lunching. |
| 01:00 | em | oh |
| 01:00 | lunch? | |
| 01:00 | im eating dezzert | |
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| 01:17 | em | uhh |
| 01:17 | there needs to be manuals for people like me, stupid people ;) | |
| 01:23 | lastnode | there are em |
| 01:23 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/3-4-manual-en/ | |
| 01:23 | em | where :o |
| 01:24 | thanks | |
| 01:25 | that does not help me with my problem though :( | |
| 01:26 | eythian | well, keep in mind that Koha is a server application, trying to set it up without being at all comfortable working with Linux is never going to be easy. |
| 01:26 | em | no it is not :( |
| 01:27 | but once it is up, i dont have to touch it again :) | |
| 01:27 | can you help me turn it on now? :D | |
| 01:28 | eythian | what happened when you tried to use the init script to start it? |
| 01:29 | em | i will get the code i used, no errors occoured, but search still broken |
| 01:30 | sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r | |
| 01:30 | i fixed the path/to parts | |
| 01:30 | eythian | that rebuilds your zebra index |
| 01:30 | that doesn't start the zebra server. | |
| 01:31 | em | oh |
| 01:31 | that is what the other guy said to do | |
| 01:31 | eythian | do you have an init script in /etc/init.d relating to koha or zebra |
| 01:31 | ? | |
| 01:31 | em | yes |
| 01:31 | eythian | what do you have? |
| 01:31 | em | /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 01:32 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-09-05#i_756196 |
| 01:32 | eythian | and what happens when you run 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start'? |
| 01:32 | yeah. that thing in that link. | |
| 01:32 | em | just a sec |
| 01:33 | asks for password | |
| 01:33 | says Starting Zebra Server | |
| 01:33 | then goes back to | |
| 01:34 | emerykoha-serer:~$ |
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| 01:34 | eythian | right. So hopefully zebra is running now. |
| 01:34 | em | hopefully, testing |
| 01:34 | search broken | |
| 01:36 | still broken :( | |
| 01:36 | eythian | you're best of finding a friendly, local, sysadmin to do it. Teaching all the required knowledge on how to diagnose things is impossible in a reasonable time frame via IRC. |
| 01:36 | em | :( |
| 01:37 | that would be hard | |
| 01:37 | my town is small | |
| 01:37 | like i said, it works before upgrade, then it breaks | |
| 01:38 | eythian | that's a bit odd in itself, really. Upgrading shouldn't really touch zebra. |
| 01:38 | Is the zebrasrv process running? | |
| 01:38 | em | how do you check again? |
| 01:39 | eythian | you can scroll up through the history of the conversation. |
| 01:39 | em | i left by accident, it is not there :s |
| 01:40 | eythian | <eythian> ps ax|grep zebra |
| 01:40 | <eythian> if you see zebrasrv in there, then it's running, if not, it's not | |
| 01:41 | em | there is zebra a bunch of times in red |
| 01:41 | but not zebrasrv | |
| 01:41 | eythian | zebrazrv? |
| 01:41 | hmm | |
| 01:41 | em | oh |
| 01:41 | just wait | |
| 01:41 | yes | |
| 01:41 | there is zebrasrv | |
| 01:42 | eythian | then maybe you need to do the rebuild again, but otherwise it should be working. |
| 01:42 | em | ok |
| 01:43 | still broken | |
| 01:43 | after re-index | |
| 01:43 | with no errors | |
| 01:43 | and where it says RECORDS EXPORTED: 2 - that is the right number | |
| 01:44 | eythian | I'm not sure then. |
| 01:44 | em | someone said something about crontabs once upon atime |
| 01:45 | eythian | crontabs are for updating the index when something changes. |
| 01:45 | em | oh |
| 01:45 | why would it be broken | |
| 01:45 | eythian | Usually because zebrasrv isn't running, but if it is, then I'm not sure. |
| 01:45 | em | argggggg |
| 01:46 | mtj | em: fyi: heres todays logs... |
| 01:46 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2011-09-06 | |
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| 01:46 | em | ok |
| 01:47 | argggggg | |
| 01:47 | will search work if i shut off zebra | |
| 01:47 | mtj | you can read eythian and rangi 's advice, and have another go, later on... |
| 01:47 | ... after you cool down | |
| 01:47 | em | :s |
| 01:48 | eythian | search is done by zebra, it won't work if it's not running. |
| 01:48 | em | well thats dumb |
| 01:49 | why is there stuff in nozebrasearches | |
| 01:49 | * eythian | usually recommends installing from packages, as that magically takes care of it all for you. |
| 01:49 | eythian | do you have zebra enabled in Koha? It is by default, but maybe you've changed it. |
| 01:50 | em | how do i do that? -- yes i do have it enabled, just checkd |
| 01:50 | eythian | wahanui: packages? |
| 01:50 | wahanui | packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master |
| 01:50 | eythian | wahanui: forget packages |
| 01:50 | wahanui | eythian: I forgot packages |
| 01:51 | em | lol |
| 01:51 | eythian | wahanui: packages is <reply>package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 01:51 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:51 | em | im confused |
| 01:51 | eythian | but it still requires being comfortable around Linux to a reasonable degree. |
| 01:51 | em | i am somewhat comfertable :) |
| 01:52 | what do they do? | |
| 01:52 | eythian | it's a way of installing Koha so that it's integrated into the system better. |
| 01:52 | em | that is good |
| 01:52 | how do i do this? | |
| 01:53 | eythian | But, you'll need to know how to tweak apache to behave how you want it to. |
| 01:53 | and other things. | |
| 01:53 | em | oh no |
| 01:53 | i have never touched apache | |
| 01:53 | eythian | It's not a one-click install, because that's virtually impossible to do for server software that has to talk to a network. |
| 01:54 | em | :( |
| 01:54 | ok, well, im gonna go :( | |
| 01:55 | eythian | I'd find someone who's good with Linux to have a look for you, odds are it'll take them half an hour to figure out. |
| 01:55 | em | probably :s |
| 02:04 | mtj | guys, make sure you claim your chorekraft gold for that one :p |
| 02:09 | eythian | heh |
| 02:09 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOI4pC69jr8 <-- track for today | |
| 02:09 | (unrelated, I just like it) | |
| 02:10 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cxy7J0aZsw <-- also, same band. | |
| 02:13 | mtj | i've been working on getting some kc.org rss feeds up... |
| 02:14 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6488] opachiddenitems not working in master <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488> |
| 02:15 | mtj | oops, but no external dns to my page... |
| 02:27 | ah, that works -> http://wp2.kohaaloha.com/?page_id=97 | |
| 02:30 | i thought it would be good to add an general list of Koha rss feeds to a page on kc.org | |
| 02:30 | ... and then use a wordpress rss plugin to display those feeds on seperate pages on the website too | |
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| 02:47 | bg | @seen druthb |
| 02:47 | @seen druthb | |
| 02:47 | huginn | bg: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <druthb> o/ |
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| 03:28 | * druthb | sees from the log that bg was lookin' for her. |
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| 04:18 | * Oak | waves |
| 04:18 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 04:18 | Oak | hello cait :) |
| 04:18 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:18 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:18 | Oak | Hello Mr. Robin :) |
| 04:19 | cait | hehe |
| 04:19 | eythian | Hello Oak :) |
| 04:19 | cait | evening mr robin |
| 04:19 | Oak | ah evening in nz... hm |
| 04:20 | eythian | well, afternoon. But almost evening. |
| 04:22 | Oak | nice |
| 04:22 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6770] AllowHoldPolicyOverride not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6770> |
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| 04:23 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 04:24 | Oak | Kia ora Brooke :} |
| 04:24 | * Brooke | hugs oak |
| 04:24 | Oak | uh oh. wrong bracket |
| 04:24 | cait | hi Brooke :) |
| 04:24 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 04:24 | cait | eythian: not trying to send me back to bed? :) |
| 04:25 | Brooke | Robin won't send you back to bed if you don't try and get me to go to sleep :P |
| 04:25 | eythian | would it do any good? :) |
| 04:25 | heh | |
| 04:26 | Oak | no sleep for the awesome. both of you. :) |
| 04:26 | Brooke | pfft |
| 04:26 | that rule only is reliable for Cait | |
| 04:27 | eythian | On the flip side, sleep is for the week. And it's most definitely a weekday. |
| 04:27 | Oak | good one Mr. robin :) |
| 04:27 | cait | :) |
| 04:49 | Brooke | damn you wiki autoformat XD |
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| 04:52 | rangi | why is the kohacon11 page a category, not a page, and can i fix it, cos it annoys me |
| 04:53 | Brooke | I'm willing to hazard a guess that it's a category and not a page because of all the crap that used to be broken with categories on the wiki |
| 04:53 | rangi | right, ill shift it then :) |
| 04:53 | Brooke | knock yerself out |
| 04:54 | just lemme know when you're done so I can go back to messin' with it | |
| 04:57 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2011 |
| 04:57 | its all yours again | |
| 04:57 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon11 | |
| 04:58 | Brooke | hooray |
| 04:58 | Oak | :) |
| 05:02 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/xRmlZ.jpg |
| 05:27 | cait | hi rangi |
| 05:30 | rangi | back from the bus |
| 05:30 | Brooke | welcome back |
| 05:32 | rangi | oh hey cait |
| 05:33 | for 3 saturdays in a row now, kahu has a brezel and a bratwurst for lunch | |
| 05:33 | Brooke | he! |
| 05:34 | rangi | he's allowed to spend 5 at the market thats what he always buys |
| 05:34 | Brooke | if he starts insisting on lederhosen, worry. |
| 05:40 | cait | hehe |
| 05:40 | * Oak | googles lederhosen |
| 05:41 | cait | perhaps you should bring him to germany... so he can compare |
| 05:41 | rangi | ahh they are made by bavarians, so probably pretty close |
| 05:41 | Oak | :) |
| 05:42 | rangi | I usually have an italian potato donut and a coffee |
| 05:43 | cait | :) |
| 05:43 | rangi | atarau is usually too busy trying to climb a tree to eat much |
| 05:46 | ok my stop cyas later | |
| 05:46 | Oak | later rangi |
| 05:46 | :) | |
| 05:47 | cait | time to go - cya |
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| 05:48 | Brooke | right schedule is up |
| 05:48 | I'm down for the count,. | |
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| 06:10 | alex_a | hi |
| 06:10 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
| 06:17 | Oak | Bonjour alex_a :) |
| 06:19 | alex_a | hello Oak |
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| 06:29 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 06:29 | alex_a | morning kf |
| 06:30 | kf | hi alex_a :) |
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| 06:32 | julian | hello #koha |
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| 06:59 | kf | hi julian |
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| 07:01 | reiveune | hi |
| 07:02 | Oak | heya reiveune :) |
| 07:02 | reiveune | :) |
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| 07:09 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 07:09 | Oak | hello sophie |
| 07:19 | clrh_ | hello |
| 07:19 | wahanui | hello, clrh_ |
| 07:19 | Oak | hello :) |
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| 07:55 | rangi | evening |
| 07:56 | kf_afk | hi rangi |
| 07:57 | Oak | so it *is* evening now in nz. cool. |
| 08:10 | slef | rangi: doesn't any feed aggregator do the same as pipes? |
| 08:13 | rangi | nope |
| 08:14 | pipes does much more than just aggregate | |
| 08:14 | dont worry tho, yahoo will kill it, they do everything else they touch | |
| 08:17 | Irma | hi all |
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| 08:17 | Irma | just got an inquiry about Kiritaki Koha |
| 08:18 | rangi | cool |
| 08:19 | Irma | Marc Osbone's utube video I found already but I wonder if sine this was written http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ there is more info re future dev |
| 08:19 | sine = since | |
| 08:19 | rangi | marc osbornes video isnt using kiritaki koha |
| 08:19 | its just using the barcode scanner that comes with android | |
| 08:20 | Irma | I thought it shows how he placed a hold on a book |
| 08:20 | rangi | yes you can do that with standard koha |
| 08:20 | Irma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbosK2eZlk |
| 08:20 | rangi | yes |
| 08:20 | Irma | this one was uploaded in june 2011 |
| 08:21 | rangi | ah yep i thought you meant his old one |
| 08:21 | Irma | all good then ... |
| 08:21 | rangi | no, no one is working on kiritakikoha |
| 08:21 | unless someone wants to pay us to | |
| 08:22 | Irma | well that should be a suggestion I make aspa in my reply |
| 08:22 | what would be the time involved approx? | |
| 08:23 | several days work? | |
| 08:23 | rangi | to do what? |
| 08:24 | Irma | Phase 3 (Something for the future?)Basically all additional functionality depend on Koha API being available (and suitable) for Android client to push information and read formatted response. Mimicking a web-user may not be the right approach here.Show overdue itemsShow fines |
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| 08:25 | Irma | I think renewals would be useful |
| 08:25 | rangi | id have to ask alan |
| 08:26 | we could do a quote, with a spec | |
| 08:28 | Irma | I will get back to you ... |
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| 08:30 | Irma | I don't know how important it is to our client to provide Koha with a mobile capability |
| 08:31 | I think it would be great because they have many students and students always have their phones with them (of course not all have Android phone) | |
| 08:32 | thanks for the additional info rangi | |
| 08:32 | rangi | yes, a mobile stylesheet might be better |
| 08:33 | Irma | can you expand on why that would be |
| 08:34 | rangi | because its not device specific |
| 08:34 | Irma | I see |
| 08:35 | Has there been much interest in providing Koha with mobile capability from other libraries? | |
| 08:35 | rangi | not in any real way |
| 08:35 | Irma | I am having a quick look in Git |
| 08:36 | for a dev request | |
| 08:38 | no match! | |
| 08:38 | kf_afk | what are you searching for Irma? |
| 08:38 | Irma | Mobile capability for Koha |
| 08:38 | and | |
| 08:39 | reuests for development | |
| 08:39 | requests | |
| 08:39 | kf_afk | I think there was some discussion on the mailing list a whie ago |
| 08:39 | have not seen a bug yet | |
| 08:40 | Irma | do you think it would be nice to offer this? |
| 08:40 | kf_afk | I think a mobile styleshee as rangi suggested would be a good addition to koha |
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| 08:45 | Irma | I wonder if Alan Mc C would be available/interested in writing code for a mobile stylesheet |
| 08:45 | I don't think I know Alan | |
| 08:46 | rangi | no he wouldnt |
| 08:46 | but one of our design team might | |
| 08:54 | Irma | oh that's good news so I will call out when I know how much interest there really is. |
| 08:55 | thanks kf_alf and rangi :-) | |
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| 10:48 | lastnode | anyone around? |
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| 11:19 | hdl | lastnode: ? |
| 11:19 | hi miguel | |
| 11:19 | miguel | hello Henri |
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| 11:25 | lastnode | hi hdl |
| 11:25 | im just gonna setup a production environment of koha | |
| 11:25 | was wondering if someone may be around if i run into any probs | |
| 11:25 | hdl | how are you miguel? |
| 11:26 | around but busy. | |
| 11:26 | lastnode | ok |
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| 11:34 | lastnode | hdl: miguel marc vs unimarc, thoughts? |
| 11:34 | druthb | o/ |
| 11:34 | Funny, how much better the campground wi-fi works when the campground is nearly empty... | |
| 11:35 | hdl | unimarc if you are french or european. marc for the rest of the world. |
| 11:35 | lastnode | hdl++ |
| 11:35 | google failed me, and you explained it in 1 line | |
| 11:35 | miguel | marc |
| 11:36 | lastnode | is tehre a guide taht explains all teh options in koha install stage 3 |
| 11:36 | Koha Web Installer . Step 3 | |
| 11:37 | druthb | @wunder sioux falls, sd |
| 11:37 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 12.0°C (5:56 AM CDT on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:42 | slef | lastnode: maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail. |
| 11:42 | marc21 not marc | |
| 11:43 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:43 | slef | marc21 and unimarc are both marc |
| 11:43 | lastnode | slef: no im looking for stuff like (sample_creator_data) |
| 11:43 | what does that mean | |
| 11:43 | slef | lastnode: hasn't it got a description under it? |
| 11:43 | lastnode | Sample Label and Patron Card Data |
| 11:43 | (sample_creator_data) | |
| 11:43 | is what it says | |
| 11:44 | slef | It means that it is sample label and patron card data :) |
| 11:44 | I think sample_creator_data is the base of the filename | |
| 11:44 | so sample_creator_data.sql will show what that data actually is. | |
| 11:44 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:44 | slef | If the description isn't quite right, send a bug report and it should get fixed pretty quickly. |
| 11:44 | Or send a patch. Or maybe someone here has time to patch it quickly. | |
| 11:45 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:45 | slef | But opening a bug report will help with QA. |
| 11:45 | lastnode | sample label and patron card ata is probably just themes/profiles |
| 11:45 | for creating cards, right? | |
| 11:45 | slef | I'd expect it's layouts, templates and so on, yes. |
| 11:45 | lastnode | i just dotn want sample patrons (which is another option in itself) |
| 11:45 | thanks | |
| 11:46 | slef | np. Hope I'm right :) |
| 11:46 | lastnode | slef++ |
| 11:52 | slef: if i dont isntall (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) | |
| 11:52 | is there an easy way to import them after? | |
| 11:53 | slef | Some things you can load the sql in phpmyadmin afterwards, but it depends if the sql contains primary key ids and so on. |
| 11:53 | or mysql command-line client | |
| 11:53 | lastnode | generally, id want (marc21_simple_bib_frameworks) |
| 11:53 | right? | |
| 11:53 | i mean it is a little expansive for our library at the moment | |
| 11:53 | but i figure it wouldnt hurt to have them lying around for later | |
| 11:54 | slef | "It depends" but I think we usually install them. I'm installing something else, so don't have my koha notes handy today. |
| 11:54 | lastnode | ok np slef thank you |
| 11:54 | slef | well, most things you probably want to decide before you start using them in earnest |
| 11:54 | lastnode | i dont get you |
| 11:55 | slef | but I think maybe worst case with frameworks is things we'll revert to default framework |
| 11:55 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:55 | slef: oh, atm we'll be using Fast Add | |
| 11:55 | just got what you maent | |
| 11:55 | slef | Well, for example, if you start using something like a branch code, then you change your mind on it, you have to get all books out of that branch before you can delete it and even then I think it's non-trivial. |
| 11:56 | lastnode | slef: oh right |
| 11:56 | yeah we're doing a 100 book trial | |
| 11:56 | first | |
| 11:56 | to see sup | |
| 11:56 | slef: either way as long as i koha-dump regularly (usign deb packages), i can edit these isntall values later, right? | |
| 11:59 | slef | I don't use the deb packages so I'm not sure. |
| 12:00 | lastnode | ok |
| 12:00 | slef: you justbackup usign sql dump? | |
| 12:00 | slef | (our hosting is networked cooperatively in various ways) |
| 12:01 | I think we've mysqldumps and the hot sync/mirror thingy whose name I've forgotten right now | |
| 12:02 | lastnode | slef: do you know waht this means? * SHOW_BCODE - Show barcode on the patron summary screen items listings |
| 12:02 | (patron_atributes) | |
| 12:02 | option is - Useful patron atribute types: | |
| 12:03 | slef | I think it makes it optional. Seriously, are you reading the manual? |
| 12:03 | manual? | |
| 12:03 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 12:05 | slef | although I say that, I can't find that one :) |
| 12:05 | lastnode | slef: yeah, i have the manual open |
| 12:05 | what you said, yeah | |
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| 12:05 | slef | I think it means that if you install patron_atributes, it makes it optional whether patron's barcode is shown on their summary screen |
| 12:05 | although I don't remember testing that myself | |
| 12:06 | lastnode | patron_attributes here is a plugin? |
| 12:06 | slef | I thought you were still choosing data files? |
| 12:06 | lastnode | i dont follow |
| 12:06 | ive setup koha like 15 times now, but i never eralyl figured out what htese do | |
| 12:07 | these bits im asking you about | |
| 12:07 | slef | I'm confused. I don't understand how this is a plugin. |
| 12:07 | I thought you were choosing data files. | |
| 12:07 | lastnode | oh right, patrno_attributes, when you said "install" you mean select it in tbhis screen |
| 12:07 | slef | Files that get loaded into the Koha database at installation time. |
| 12:07 | lastnode | gotcha |
| 12:07 | Some basic settings including USD currency, and a sampling of Z39.50 servers. | |
| 12:07 | slef | Heh, bad jargon use by both of us = fail! |
| 12:08 | lastnode | the sample servers are mentioned here, and in teh last opton too |
| 12:08 | slef | what's that one called? I'll bring it up in a browser |
| 12:08 | lastnode | (parameters) |
| 12:08 | slef | I suspect that's a bad description but I'll check |
| 12:08 | lastnode | ok |
| 12:09 | slef | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]34413e9ef;hb=HEAD |
| 12:09 | lastnode | (sample_z3950_servers) is the other one |
| 12:09 | slef | yeah, no z39.50 servers in there |
| 12:09 | they're all in sample_z3950_servers | |
| 12:09 | lastnode | haha |
| 12:09 | thanks slef | |
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| 12:09 | * lastnode | bookmarks the git repo |
| 12:09 | slef | there's a simple bug for you to report. http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0944b3850;hb=HEAD is wrong |
| 12:10 | lastnode | ok |
| 12:12 | slef | lunchtime... bbl |
| 12:12 | lastnode | thanks slef! |
| 12:12 | haev a good lunch :) | |
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| 12:24 | oleonard | Hi #koha. |
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| 12:48 | lastnode | in koha, the great gatsby is classified in LC as 813/.52 |
| 12:48 | still trying to figure out how .52 are arrived at | |
| 12:49 | oleonard | LC catalogers decide. |
| 12:49 | And the library is given the option, via the "/" of whether or not to be that specific in their own classification of the book. | |
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| 13:02 | lastnode | oleonard: so / means not-specific? |
| 13:02 | coryj | Is there a tool/option to "check out" items to users based on a CSV file? We are migrating one of our libraries with a large number of existing checked out items. |
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| 13:03 | oleonard | lastnode: the "/" indicates where the local cataloger could truncate the call number if they choose |
| 13:04 | coryj: I don't know what the best option is, but one is to use the offline circulation data upload tool | |
| 13:04 | /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/process_koc.pl | |
| 13:04 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation_file_format | |
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| 13:11 | lastnode | we dont have offline data oleonard |
| 13:11 | new library | |
| 13:12 | oleonard | I wasn't talking to you lastnode |
| 13:16 | lastnode | oh my bad, oleonard |
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| 13:34 | oleonard | Grr... I'm tired of people emailing the same question to the list over and over. |
| 13:37 | * kf_away | offers oleonard a cookie |
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| 14:07 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6190> |
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| 14:08 | oleonard | that's been a tough one apparently. |
| 14:13 | jcamins_away | How many times does the same message need to get sent? |
| 14:13 | Two minutes later, replying to the first one with the exact same text? | |
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| 14:15 | * Oak | waves |
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| 14:51 | wizzyrea | mornin peeps |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:54 | libsysguy1 | morning wizzyrea |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | I trust your long holiday treated you well? |
| 14:55 | libsysguy1 | for the most part...but I fear that i have a Monday tuesday today |
| 14:55 | there is really no escaping monday | |
| 14:55 | jcamins_away | Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! |
| 14:56 | nengard | wish i stayed in jamaica instead of coming home |
| 14:56 | * jcamins | is very impressed with himself for coming up with a cultural reference. |
| 14:56 | nengard | it's dreary and rainy and my baby girl is sick |
| 14:56 | and it's "monday" | |
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| 14:56 | * sekjal | had a VERY full weekend, and could use another to help recover from it |
| 14:56 | nengard | vacation pics for all to see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]72157627606452296 |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:57 | * oleonard | is ready for some work to get over the weekend |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | ooh yea and welcome back nengard :) |
| 14:57 | nengard | :) |
| 14:57 | oleonard | nengard announces her return with signed-off patches |
| 14:57 | nengard | yuppers |
| 14:58 | kf_away | nengard++ sekjal++ :) |
| 14:58 | and time to go for me - distance study deadline is near... | |
| 14:58 | bye all | |
| 14:58 | nengard | bye |
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| 15:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:14 | wizzyrea | can someone explain to me the difference between what happens when you do this http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ual-en/?ch=x15097 and when you do a "normal" reindex (sudo -u <kohauser> misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r) ? |
| 15:15 | hdl1 | yes. |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea: -b -a are not working when they are used on the same command line. | |
| 15:16 | And -r is done only when rebuild_zebra (Koha) exports an iso2709 file | |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | right |
| 15:17 | hdl1 | when -r |
| 15:17 | then if Koha exports a file, then it will do a zebraidx init. | |
| 15:17 | and then reindex the whole stuff. | |
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| 15:18 | libsysguy1 | ohh hdl1 you are here |
| 15:18 | excellent I have a question for you | |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 15:18 | hdl1 | if nothing in file, then it just do nothing. |
| 15:19 | (It is a bug of the rebuild_zebra.pl imho, but no library complained about that) | |
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| 15:19 | libsysguy1 | hdl1: you guys are the ones working with Solr right? |
| 15:19 | hdl1 | (just me, when I first had the problem.) |
| 15:19 | libsysguy1: we are. | |
| 15:21 | libsysguy | how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra |
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| 15:42 | jcamins | iphone-- # I get that standards are anathema to peole as cool as Apple fans, but the "Experience" would be a lot better if you rendered the page in such a way that it actually fits on the screen. |
| 15:44 | lastnode | im writing a bash script i hope to run daily across machines |
| 15:45 | basically koha-dump then rsync /var/spool/koha/mysite with another server | |
| 15:45 | does that make sense? | |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:46 | hdl | libsysguy: sorry ? |
| 15:46 | libsysguy: how much extra horsepower are you guys using over zebra ? | |
| 15:46 | Why are you asking ? | |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | probably curious, or trying to make a plan. :) |
| 15:47 | coryj_away | Thanks oleonard. Sorry for the delayed thanks... was pulled away from my desk for a while. |
| 15:47 | hdl | libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your questions. |
| 15:47 | libsysguy: I donot understand the meaning of your question. | |
| 15:48 | in fact, at the moment, we are only stabilising the solr work. | |
| 15:48 | And trying to port features we already did into 3.6 3.8. | |
| 15:49 | libsysguy: at the moment we are willing to help ppl getting zebra into that. | |
| 15:50 | But we cannot build that from scratch. | |
| 15:50 | jcamins | hdl: libsysguy's question was about how powerful a server you need to run solr. |
| 15:51 | hdl | jcamins: ah ... this is why I said i did not understand the meaning.... |
| 15:51 | It could be understood in many ways. | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | jcamins: Is your complaint about text flow? |
| 15:52 | hdl | we have one library with 400000+ items with solr being allocated 1G. |
| 15:52 | jcamins | oleonard: I have a custom mobile stylesheet that changes my menu from being horizontal to being vertical, so that no scrolling is required. |
| 15:52 | It would seem that iPhone will not use the mobile stylesheet. | |
| 15:53 | Even though every other mobile browser (with the possible exception of mobile IE, which I don't care about) handles it correctly. | |
| 15:54 | libsysguy | sorry guys i stepped away |
| 15:54 | *catching up* | |
| 15:55 | hdl what do you mean by 1G...like of Ram or extra Harddisk space? | |
| 15:55 | oleonard | jcamins: Seems unlikely that the iPhone is refusing to use the stylesheet arbitrarily |
| 15:55 | hdl | 1G RAM. |
| 15:56 | libsysguy | oh...man that is next to nothing imo |
| 15:56 | hdl | hard disk space is the same as the DB with zebra. |
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| 15:57 | jcamins | oleonard: probably you have to use a different technique to trick it into using a mobile stylesheet. |
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| 15:59 | libsysguy | hdl sorry for bugging you with questions but im pretty interested in trying out solr when you guys get it ready |
| 15:59 | so there would be no delay in adding records with solr | |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | does anyone know, is the patch for apache2 out yet? |
| 16:01 | the one that fixes the super-exploit discovered a couple of weeks ago? | |
| 16:02 | hdl | actually, there is an indexing queue we are working on at the moment because on 400000 records, and the way koha is structured... (touching items multiple times in the circulation process) the indexing process would slow down the circulation process. |
| 16:02 | Which is not good. | |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | ^^ very not good |
| 16:02 | libsysguy | right we'd have the same issue since we have 500000 records |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | 500000 bibs? |
| 16:03 | libsysguy | yup |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 16:03 | libsysguy | or close to it |
| 16:03 | hdl | So there will is delay, but it is a deamon which sends records to solr some biblios at once. |
| 16:03 | it packs biblios and sends them to solr | |
| 16:04 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 16:04 | hdl | Therefore, less indexing. |
| 16:04 | libsysguy | have you worked out the delay time yet? |
| 16:04 | or is it variable | |
| 16:05 | hdl | libsysguy: it depends on your volume of biblio/items record edition at once. |
| 16:06 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 16:06 | so if we added 22K new ebooks all at once it would be slower? | |
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| 16:08 | hdl | it indexes 200 biblio edits in less than 2 mn at the moment but we are indexing 10 by 10 which is a parameter we will raise up to 100. |
| 16:08 | But we are experimenting so that we find the best parameters for that at the moment. | |
| 16:08 | libsysguy | ok cool |
| 16:09 | hdl | I hope we can also master some shards implementation and mergeFactor so that indexing time is reduced. |
| 16:10 | libsysguy | that would be fantastic...im all for faster indexing |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | can someone verify for me -- the buttons on request.pl to reorder/delete holds |
| 16:15 | none of them seem to be working, they all seem to try and place the hold again for that person | |
| 16:15 | instead of reordering the holds | |
| 16:16 | oleonard | I've seen that too wizzyrea, and I thought there was a bug report for it |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | i suspect this has something to do with the patch that changed reserves.pl to use borrowernumber instead of cardnumber |
| 16:16 | hmm | |
| 16:16 | i will look thanks owen | |
| 16:19 | hdl | wizzyrea: we fixed that one on master. |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | oo, when? |
| 16:19 | hdl | on our branch. |
| 16:19 | Maybe sophie_m could take the patches for that. | |
| 16:20 | And send them. | |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | that would be super :D |
| 16:20 | oleonard | Why haven't they been submitted already? |
| 16:20 | Bug 6691 | |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | i'd sign off on them :) |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6691 critical, P5, ---, pianohacker, NEW , Can't place hold even with override on |
| 16:20 | oleonard | No, not that one. |
| 16:20 | Bug 6687 | |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | no, def not |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6687 critical, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , cannot move people in the holds queue |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | YES that |
| 16:20 | hdl | oleonard: because we need to rebase /rewrite all the patches. |
| 16:21 | because of tt move. | |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 16:25 | * oleonard | didn't realize the bug was that old |
| 16:25 | wizzyrea | actually, I think this is the 2nd time it has happened |
| 16:26 | hdl, I don't think that your patches would help on this, since the thing that broke it was post TT | |
| 16:26 | but I could be completely misunderstanding. | |
| 16:27 | hdl | wizzyrea: would need to see what is causing that. |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea: I definitely think that selenium tests would help. | |
| 16:28 | (if it is the second time the problem occur, it is one time too much) | |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | mhm |
| 16:33 | * oleonard | thought he had tested that holds bug, sees from his comment on the bug that he did...and forgot he had commented. |
| 16:34 | wizzyrea | I've looked at that before too |
| 16:34 | and I also forgot | |
| 16:34 | hdl: thanks for the selenium idea | |
| 16:34 | I hadn't ever looked at that before. | |
| 16:35 | fascinating | |
| 16:38 | * jcamins | crashes LibreOffice. |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Don't do a Replace All to globally change the font in a file of labels. |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 16:50 | chris_n about? | |
| 16:51 | chris_n | here |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | question on 6841 -- I've backed down the necessary permissions to set the branch from circ to view catalog |
| 16:51 | chris_n | k |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | and I've made the template look for "can user edit catalogue" |
| 16:52 | to allow changes only to catalogers | |
| 16:52 | but I wonder if that's best for all "independent branches" | |
| 16:52 | libraries | |
| 16:52 | wahanui | libraries are the kings of overcomplication |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | *giggle* |
| 16:52 | how apt. | |
| 16:52 | chris_n | heh |
| 16:53 | I could see situations where there is non-centralized cataloging where one may not want the catalogers to be able to change their branch | |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | what do you think? I think in any case, view catalogue is all that is required to change set branch |
| 16:53 | * chris_n | screams as he sees yet another syspref coming |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | no no |
| 16:53 | I won't do that to you | |
| 16:53 | chris_n | :-) |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | i'm sure there's a solution |
| 16:53 | jcamins | nengard_lunch: if you notice that the RSS/Atom feed for cpbibliography.com isn't working, could you let me know? |
| 16:54 | chris_n | wizzyrea: what you've done sounds good to me |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | s/is required/all that should be required |
| 16:54 | it would certainly fix your problem. Is there another permission that would be better? | |
| 16:54 | (for the template) | |
| 16:55 | i'm looking at them and I just don't know | |
| 16:55 | chris_n | no, I think that it makes sense to make it dependent upon catalogue edit permission |
| 16:55 | unless we want to create a permission for the label tool | |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | it seems logical to me that there would be cases in most independent branches setup that would require changing the set branch sometimes |
| 16:56 | from a cataloger's point of view | |
| 16:56 | what it looked for originally | |
| 16:57 | was "can user management" | |
| 16:57 | chris_n | sheesh |
| 16:57 | * chris_n | is really not paying attention |
| 16:57 | chris_n | sorry |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | sok |
| 16:57 | chris_n | yes |
| 16:57 | I think that's sound reasoning | |
| 16:57 | * chris_n | looks at the permissions a moment |
| 16:58 | * wizzyrea | is just trying to think of the broader implications of such a change |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | it's easy enough to fix. :) |
| 16:58 | but *should* it be fixed in the way I'm thinking | |
| 16:59 | chris_n | I'm not sure where else we would put it |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | "can set branch" or some nonsense. |
| 16:59 | chris_n | and I cannot think of a situation in which one would want to prevent the viewing of certain branches catalogs |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | k, i'll go ahead and submit it |
| 17:00 | chris_n | branch's even |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | and if they don't like it |
| 17:00 | well | |
| 17:00 | you'll have the patch anyway :) | |
| 17:00 | but, right after lunch :P | |
| 17:00 | * chris_n | passes wizzyrea some fresh guacamole sauce and chips |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | YUM |
| 17:00 | thanks! | |
| 17:00 | chris_n | thanks to you |
| 17:23 | jcamins | nengard: I changed the RSS/Atom feeds for my website. Let me know if you have any problems. |
| 17:24 | nengard: I already told you that, sorry for the repeat. | |
| 17:24 | * jcamins | has a case of the Mondays, too. |
| 17:24 | corects his to-do list so he doesn't tell nengard a third time. | |
| 17:24 | nengard | i missed it the first time, so glad you repeated it |
| 17:25 | jcamins | Always glad to belabor the point. :) |
| 17:25 | Whatever the point might be. | |
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| 17:44 | Emery | can anyone help me? many people have tried but no-one can find out why, after upgrade to 3.40.40 search breaks, zebra srv is running and everything is fine, i go back to 3.2 and search works !?!?!?!?!? :o so if anyone wants to help it would be apriciated |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | hmm...im not an upgrade expert but was teh search server running as a daemon? |
| 17:49 | Emery | yes |
| 17:49 | sorry, for slow responce | |
| 17:50 | libsysguy | its ok |
| 17:50 | Emery | yeah i dont know what happens |
| 17:50 | libsysguy | you might want to stop the daemon and just move the server script to /etc/init.d |
| 17:50 | i think the daemon is depricated | |
| 17:51 | Emery | what do you mean? move the script, it is already at /etc/init.d ... |
| 17:52 | libsysguy | right but its the daemon script no? |
| 17:52 | Emery | yes it is |
| 17:52 | libsysguy | right so that is the wrong script to be in there |
| 17:53 | Emery | oh |
| 17:54 | so what am i moving? | |
| 17:55 | im confused ... | |
| 17:55 | libsysguy | one sec |
| 17:56 | Emery | ok |
| 17:56 | note: when i do perl Makefile.PL this error occours, | |
| 17:56 | Warning: per | |
| 17:57 | ignore ^^ | |
| 17:57 | Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found | |
| 17:57 | Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found | |
| 17:58 | Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found | |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | this should help with the above errors http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]modules_on_Debian |
| 17:58 | Emery | ok |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | i can't seem to remember the name of that file |
| 17:58 | Emery | ok, i will do that and will be back once im done :D |
| 18:01 | installing ... | |
| 18:01 | libsysguy | ok so im pretty sure you ln -s /koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh to /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 18:02 | Emery | do you know if it will erase my records on update? |
| 18:02 | libsysguy | and then run rc-d update |
| 18:02 | Emery | ok |
| 18:02 | it has not finshed yet | |
| 18:02 | libsysguy | umm have you backed up your db just incase? |
| 18:02 | Emery | no, but i only have 2 records at the moment, no big deal |
| 18:02 | libsysguy | it shouldn't but i would most certainly wait until its finished |
| 18:02 | oh haha | |
| 18:03 | Emery | ok |
| 18:03 | it errors unable to locate package | |
| 18:04 | libsysguy | what package |
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| 18:04 | Emery | the one you tolde me to install |
| 18:05 | libsysguy | I don't think I've told you to install any package |
| 18:05 | what exactly did you run? | |
| 18:05 | Emery | the link you gave me to install the missing stuf |
| 18:05 | libsysguy | oh the wiki |
| 18:05 | wahanui | rumour has it the wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 18:06 | Emery | yea |
| 18:06 | it cant find them | |
| 18:06 | i am on the step where it says | |
| 18:06 | libsysguy | so you did libtemplate-perl? |
| 18:06 | and libsession-driver-memcached-perl | |
| 18:06 | Emery | no ... ? |
| 18:07 | i was fallowing what it said to do | |
| 18:07 | libsysguy | right but keep in mind these are abstract as to fit your pacakges |
| 18:07 | so foo-bar would refer to your package | |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 18:07 | Emery | yeah |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | you want to do sudo apt-get install libtemplate-perl |
| 18:08 | Emery | ok |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | and sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl |
| 18:08 | then try your makefile again. | |
| 18:08 | Emery | unable to locate package libtemplate-perl |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | what OS? |
| 18:09 | Emery | ubuntu |
| 18:10 | 10.10 | |
| 18:10 | libsysguy | you can also try cpan install Template |
| 18:10 | Emery | ok |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | sudo cpan install Template |
| 18:10 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 18:10 | my bad | |
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| 18:10 | libsysguy | cait :D |
| 18:10 | Emery | it errors : dont use install , just cpan Template |
| 18:11 | cait | hi libsysguy |
| 18:11 | Emery | should i do that? |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | sudo cpan -i Template |
| 18:11 | cait | should I be scared? |
| 18:11 | libsysguy | i want to schedule a meeting with you and sekjal about notices |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | yes. oh, wait. |
| 18:11 | you meant about libsysguy. | |
| 18:11 | >.> | |
| 18:11 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | nah, prolly not. |
| 18:12 | Emery | do i want to build the XS Stash module ??? |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | yes to all |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:12 | Emery | ok |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | there will be a lot...hope you are in for some rapid Y pressing |
| 18:12 | Emery | lol |
| 18:12 | Sure! thats always fun :D | |
| 18:13 | Install -- OK | |
| 18:13 | no what? re-do perl Makefile.PL | |
| 18:13 | now what? re-do perl Makefile.PL | |
| 18:13 | libsysguy | after you do that for all the missing packages |
| 18:13 | so memcached too | |
| 18:14 | Emery | oh, how do i install that |
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | sudo apt-get install libsession-driver-memcached-perl |
| 18:14 | Emery | thanks |
| 18:15 | Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl | |
| 18:16 | libsysguy | then build it with cpan just like you did with template |
| 18:16 | Emery | ok |
| 18:16 | that would be sudo cpan -i libsession-drive..... | |
| 18:16 | libsysguy | replace the - with :: |
| 18:16 | Emery | ok |
| 18:16 | libsysguy | and strip the lib |
| 18:16 | and perl | |
| 18:17 | Emery | ok |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | sudo cpan -i session::driver::memcached |
| 18:17 | Emery | ok |
| 18:17 | cait | libsysguy: ok, ask me in 15 minutes ;) |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | haha |
| 18:17 | will do | |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | actually |
| 18:17 | Emery | Command not Found |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | that will be sudo cpan -i CGI::session::driver::memcached |
| 18:18 | libsysguy | hehe oops i missed that one |
| 18:18 | Emery | ok |
| 18:18 | :D | |
| 18:18 | Command not Found | |
| 18:18 | libsysguy | emery what library do you work for that only has 2 books |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | oh bother. one more for the girls in the back. |
| 18:19 | sudo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached | |
| 18:19 | Emery | lol, We have not finished entering our records yet :p |
| 18:19 | libsysguy | how many do you have? |
| 18:19 | Emery | 500 |
| 18:19 | approx | |
| 18:20 | Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl | |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | command not found or package not found? I just verified that CGI::Session::Driver::memcached installs |
| 18:20 | Emery | yes, i just did that, typo :D but , |
| 18:21 | Unable To Locate libsession-driver-memcached-perl | |
| 18:21 | still :s | |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | if you typed that you typed it wrong. |
| 18:21 | libsysguy | so you are typing exactly this: udo cpan -i CGI::Session::Driver::memcached |
| 18:21 | sudo** | |
| 18:21 | Emery | yes, i have done that |
| 18:21 | and it worked | |
| 18:22 | libsysguy | ok then that is all you need |
| 18:22 | Emery | oh |
| 18:22 | so i dont do sudo apt-get install ... | |
| 18:22 | libsysguy | nope |
| 18:22 | Emery | ok |
| 18:22 | libsysguy | rerun the installer |
| 18:22 | Emery | ok |
| 18:24 | Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session:: Driver::memcached 0.04 not found | |
| 18:24 | :'( | |
| 18:24 | libsysguy | its cool |
| 18:24 | with 500 records I doubt your using it | |
| 18:24 | Emery | ok, that is good :D |
| 18:24 | so i continue? | |
| 18:25 | libsysguy | yeah you should be able to proceed |
| 18:25 | Emery | ok |
| 18:25 | i have done make | |
| 18:25 | doing make test now | |
| 18:25 | libsysguy | gotta run for a bit |
| 18:25 | Emery | yep |
| 18:26 | almost done, i hope :D | |
| 18:26 | RESULT: PASS :D | |
| 18:26 | sudo make upgrade? | |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 18:26 | Emery | yes? |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | is that what the instructions say? |
| 18:27 | Emery | umm, i dont know, i think so ... |
| 18:27 | i have not looked in awhile | |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | you know what they say |
| 18:27 | give a man a fish and he'll be hungry tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and he'll never go hungry again. | |
| 18:27 | Emery | lol |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | go fishing. ;) |
| 18:28 | Emery | yay :D i love fishing |
| 18:28 | ok, i have done that and there is an error :( as fallows | |
| 18:28 | chown: invalid user: 'koha:koha' | |
| 18:28 | make *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 | |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | do you have a koha user and group? |
| 18:29 | Emery | i though i did |
| 18:29 | maybe not :o | |
| 18:29 | i will create them | |
| 18:30 | do i have to re-do perl Makefile.PL after or can i just re-do sudo make upgrade | |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | ok, first. You should probably be logged in as your Koha user to be doing this |
| 18:31 | Emery | oh |
| 18:31 | sudo -u koha ? | |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 18:31 | Emery | ok |
| 18:32 | created user and group | |
| 18:32 | * wizzyrea | has no idea what state your permissions are in |
| 18:32 | Emery | now do i have to re run the Makefile.PL or can i log in as koha and run sudo make upgrade |
| 18:33 | that may not be good :o | |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | I would log in as koha and run the makefile again, but I'm cautious like that |
| 18:33 | Emery | ok |
| 18:33 | will do | |
| 18:34 | oh no | |
| 18:35 | Unable to open MakeMaker.tmp Permission denied | |
| 18:35 | wizzyrea | heh. |
| 18:35 | Emery | :s |
| 18:35 | wizzyrea | looks like you have a date with the googles. |
| 18:35 | Emery | :( |
| 18:35 | nengard | i need some report help - i need a report that shows all the patrons who have email addresses on their account but do not get the hold filled email - here's what I have ... but i'm not sure this is right |
| 18:35 | select b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.cardnumber, b.email | |
| 18:35 | from borrowers b WHERE b.borrowernumber NOT IN (SELECT borrowernumber from borrower_message_preferences p where p.message_attribute_id = 4) and b.email is not null order by b.branchcode, b.surname, b.firstname, b.email asc | |
| 18:36 | Emery | wizzyrea, how do i fix this? |
| 18:37 | do i give perrmissions to the user koha or ...? | |
| 18:37 | ... | |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | http://tinyurl.com/3qy5xmq |
| 18:38 | Emery | ok |
| 18:38 | REally? | |
| 18:38 | :D thats the second time today | |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | that's the way we figure out our problems. |
| 18:39 | cait_dinner | nengard: do you have a little time for it? |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | remember that saying about teaching a man to fish? |
| 18:39 | Emery | i hate google |
| 18:39 | yeah yeah | |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | that's your right. |
| 18:39 | Emery | i will do that |
| 18:39 | cait_dinner | nengard: i could try to figure it out in a few minutes |
| 18:40 | oleonard | Emery: You hate Google, or you hate searching for the answers to your questions? There are other search engines if it's the former. |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | more specifically, in those results |
| 18:41 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td3395866.html | |
| 18:41 | Emery | i just hate searching for awnsers :D |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | perhaps you're in the wrong line of work :P |
| 18:42 | oleonard | :| |
| 18:42 | Emery | :D ehh, feeling lazy today |
| 18:42 | Just like all the suckers who have to go to school today :D | |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | me too *yawn* |
| 18:42 | Emery | lol |
| 18:43 | * oleonard | is feeling lazier by the minute. |
| 18:43 | * wizzyrea | wanders off to do something productive. |
| 18:43 | Emery | what time is it where you are? |
| 18:43 | its 11:42 am here | |
| 18:43 | oleonard | Productivity time. |
| 18:43 | Emery | lol |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:44 | Emery | Hel[p |
| 18:44 | i ran | |
| 18:44 | sudo -u koha make upgrade | |
| 18:44 | and it still errors but this time it is , Cant write-open blib/man3 ... | |
| 18:45 | i geuss i will googles it :/ | |
| 18:46 | google says to do it as root | |
| 18:46 | but you say to do it as koha | |
| 18:47 | im confused | |
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| 18:49 | Emery | help? |
| 18:50 | i geuss i dont get help .. | |
| 18:51 | :( *sniff* *sniff* | |
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| 18:54 | Emery | help? |
| 18:55 | ARG | |
| 18:55 | search is broken | |
| 18:58 | :'( | |
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| 19:02 | wizzyrea | chris_n: bug 6841 |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | bbiab |
| 19:03 | Emery | can you help me now? |
| 19:03 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6841] A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6841> |
| 19:03 | Emery | i have suscessfully installed koha 3.4 but search still broken |
| 19:04 | please | |
| 19:04 | oleonard | searching faq? |
| 19:04 | wahanui | i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 19:05 | Emery | i have looked ther |
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| 19:05 | Emery | it does not help |
| 19:06 | and my problem is not there | |
| 19:06 | :( | |
| 19:08 | plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | |
| 19:08 | helpssssssssssssssss | |
| 19:12 | jwagner | Emery, it doesn't look like anyone is available right now who can help you. You might try back later when users in another timezone are online. |
| 19:13 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390> |
| 19:14 | Emery | ok |
| 19:14 | bye | |
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| 19:19 | cait_dinner | nengard++ |
| 19:19 | nengard | cait++ (for report help) |
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| 19:45 | pelletiermaxime | Is there any doc in the wiki or anywhere on how to run the Test::More suite in t/ ? |
| 19:45 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:45 | pelletiermaxime | not sure what I need to do before running the db_dependent tests |
| 19:45 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:48 | cait_dinner | morning rangi |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | cait_dinner: i forgot to bug you |
| 19:50 | aww i was hoping bug you would make the bot jump | |
| 19:50 | cait | bug me now |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 19:50 | rangi | perl t/db_dependent/name.t oughta do it |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | ok poke cait |
| 19:50 | cait | make the bot jump? |
| 19:51 | libsysguy | yeah like if you do bug 1234 |
| 19:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching |
| 19:51 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 19:51 | rangi | hmm |
| 19:52 | pelletiermaxime | rangi: really? Ok, must be a problem on my db because I get fk constraints fails :/ |
| 19:52 | rangi | no change to the syspref .sql for bug 6390 either ... has magnuses patch been pushed so we dont need that? I think even with that still need english eh |
| 19:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it |
| 19:52 | rangi | what test pelletiermaxime ? |
| 19:52 | pelletiermaxime | Members |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | anyway so between when and when are you cool with meeting |
| 19:53 | rangi | you could look at jenkins see how it runs them? |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | sekjal I think prefers after 3 his time |
| 19:53 | which is after 2 my time | |
| 19:53 | rangi | jenkins.koha-community.org |
| 19:53 | im on the bus so hard for me to look | |
| 19:53 | cait | what time is it for younow? |
| 19:53 | pelletiermaxime | rangi: ok thanks. Trying to figure out how jenkins work hehe |
| 19:53 | cait | libsysguy: |
| 19:54 | libsysguy | 2:53 |
| 19:54 | what time is it for you now? | |
| 19:54 | oh almost 10 | |
| 19:56 | cait | almot 10 pm |
| 19:56 | 7 hours | |
| 19:56 | libsysguy | i see...well I have classes kind of randomly throughout the day |
| 19:56 | cait | evening is better for me - but not too late |
| 19:57 | pelletiermaxime | rangi: the test adds a member with S as a categorycode. Surely I need to have something in my bd before executing the tests ? |
| 19:57 | libsysguy | so around 5 or evening like 8 or 9 |
| 19:57 | cait | not later than 10 pm for me |
| 19:57 | rangi | ah yeah the sample data |
| 19:57 | cait | for before now your time |
| 19:58 | libsysguy | ok so im always free at 1 |
| 19:58 | i wonder how that works for sekjal | |
| 19:59 | sekjal | tomorrow at 1pm (Eastern) is the Koha IRC meeting... I imagine that will be going on for at least two hours |
| 20:01 | thursday or friday I'm pretty free midday | |
| 20:01 | pelletiermaxime | hmmm and where can I find that sample data ? |
| 20:02 | cait | oh yes, tomorrow! |
| 20:02 | almost forgot about it | |
| 20:02 | the meeting... | |
| 20:02 | rangi | someone should send a reminder now |
| 20:03 | cait | sekjal: could you look at bug 6537 when you have time? |
| 20:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
| 20:03 | libsysguy | thursday would work best for me |
| 20:03 | cait | if we get that in it will get a lot less work to add new sys prefs |
| 20:04 | rangi | yeah that would rule |
| 20:04 | cait | libsysguy: what do you want to achieve with the meeting? |
| 20:04 | brain storming? | |
| 20:04 | libsysguy | yes basically |
| 20:04 | just to make sure we have all of our bases covered | |
| 20:05 | and maybe generate some interest | |
| 20:06 | pelletiermaxime | ah, it's in the installer. Never used it before hehe |
| 20:07 | cait | ok |
| 20:07 | :) | |
| 20:07 | just let me know when and where | |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | ok so thursday at 1? |
| 20:08 | i can send out the email? | |
| 20:08 | rangi | send out a reminder for general meeting too while ur at it :) |
| 20:09 | libsysguy | hehe ok :) |
| 20:09 | rangi | ok my bus stop bbiab |
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| 20:11 | cait | 1 + 7 = 8 here |
| 20:11 | that should be ok | |
| 20:20 | sekjal | cait: do you know if the new files for 6537 were generated algorithmically, or manually? |
| 20:21 | cait | not sure |
| 20:21 | I think manually perhaps | |
| 20:21 | you only have to do it once | |
| 20:22 | but I don't think we had language specific changes recently | |
| 20:22 | and only en needs to include all files | |
| 20:22 | magnus_away will be back on thursday | |
| 20:23 | rangi | back |
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| 20:25 | Brooke | @later tell Oak A Peck on the Cheek http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312859/ |
| 20:25 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:27 | sekjal | 6537 passed QA |
| 20:31 | rangi | w00t w00t |
| 20:31 | looks like ive got some pushing to do | |
| 20:34 | nengard | :) |
| 20:35 | rangi | ohh bug's first patch |
| 20:37 | hdl | bug 6537 |
| 20:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
| 20:37 | rangi | libsysguy++ #for the reminder email |
| 20:37 | libsysguy | welcome |
| 20:39 | cait | bugs first patch? |
| 20:39 | rangi | bug 6724 |
| 20:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals |
| 20:39 | cait | is his nickname bug? |
| 20:39 | rangi | yes |
| 20:40 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 20:40 | rangi | libsysguy: your reward http://soundcloud.com/djbl3nd/loko-mix |
| 20:42 | cait | :) |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | i love crazy mixes |
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| 20:48 | rangi | 154 already |
| 20:59 | cait | good night all |
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| 20:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c0c252b5550da2d0> / Updating about file and history doc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]466447012b1b2775b> / bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]web/?p=koha.git;a |
| 21:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 403 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) |
| 21:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6eea542f38f60de3> / Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when catalo... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a870bd2cb5e021e9e> / Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client <http://git.koha-c |
| 21:14 | rangi | testing 6537 now |
| 21:14 | sekjal | rangi: cool. gtg. |
| 21:14 | have a good night, #koha | |
| 21:14 | rangi | cya sekjal |
| 21:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e89c4a40886d0049> / Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]378c69825ddac2a43> |
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| 21:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #403: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/403/ |
| 21:51 | * brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 | |
| 21:51 | * Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc | |
| 21:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals |
| 21:51 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line |
| 21:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice |
| 21:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 404 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 19 j ago) |
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| 22:02 | rangi | heya danielg1 |
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| 22:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/404/ |
| 22:35 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5605 [ENH] SIP: Add Support for the Fee Paid Message | |
| 22:35 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client | |
| 22:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5605 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Add Support for SIP Fee Paid Message |
| 22:35 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing |
| 22:35 | * Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also | |
| 22:35 | * magnus: Bug 6537 - squashed version of the previous 5 commits, signed-off | |
| 22:35 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6537 [SIGNED-OFF] follow-up = removing non specific lines for french unimarc | |
| 22:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record |
| 22:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning | |
| 22:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer | |
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| 23:27 | daniel_g | hi |
| 23:27 | wahanui | hola, daniel_g |
| 23:28 | daniel_g | good gosh, i just spent a couple hours trying various ways to get here |
| 23:29 | pidgin, irc2go, work, home. wresting with nicksrv & ident. finally got here via plain old mibbit and a new nick | |
| 23:36 | rangi | heh |
| 23:54 | rhcl | so much for the mibbit connection.... |
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