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| 00:22 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:55 | lastnode | hi #koha |
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| 01:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 41 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:02 | Project Koha_3.4.x build #41: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/41/ | |
| 02:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded | |
| 02:02 | * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6479 Converts all the serialseq variables to UTF-8. | |
| 02:02 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * henridamien.laurent: bug 6834 followup removing param_map |
| 02:02 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_PRINT) |
| 02:02 | * alex.arnaud: bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving | |
| 02:02 | * nengard: bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * alex.arnaud: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags |
| 02:02 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6768, Two unused include files can be removed | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5028 - Remove references to catmaintain.pl |
| 02:02 | * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, NEW , no way to finish receiving |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo |
| 02:02 | * magnus: Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6768 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * magnus: Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create |
| 02:02 | * robin: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove references to catmaintain.pl |
| 02:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , waitingreserves: branchname instead of branch code | |
| 02:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6516 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about borrowernumber of staff user | |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Updating history and about file |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P1, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages |
| 02:13 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6732] Missing Title for Manual Invoice <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6732> | |
| 02:49 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6665] advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6665> | |
| 02:53 | rangi | heya wizzyrea |
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| 03:06 | wizzyrea | hi there |
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| 04:11 | lastnode | hello friends |
| 04:11 | anyone here? | |
| 04:12 | eythian | Nope. |
| 04:13 | cait: it's very early in the morning. Go back to sleep. | |
| 04:15 | lastnode | just wondering if any of you will be kohacon |
| 04:15 | i didnt realise it's in India, adn even though I'm very new to the community, it's tempting, seeinghow close it is | |
| 04:15 | eythian | I'm going |
| 04:17 | cait | hehe |
| 04:17 | nope | |
| 04:17 | hi all, hi robin, hi lastnode | |
| 04:19 | lastnode | i dont think id have much to contribute, eythian, but seeing ill probably be running koha for my school for a while |
| 04:19 | couple of years at least, do you think it will be worth my while? | |
| 04:19 | rangi | kohacon clashes with a couple of other conferences id already said yes to, so not me |
| 04:19 | eythian | yeah, definitely |
| 04:19 | lastnode | im tempted because it's just a hop, step anda jump for me |
| 04:19 | eythian | You're likely to learn a lot |
| 04:20 | and meet people, find contacts, that sort of thing. | |
| 04:20 | lastnode | i can prolly find accomodation too, so it will just be plane ticket |
| 04:20 | and food, which is uber cheap | |
| 04:20 | * lastnode | is seriously tempted |
| 04:21 | cait | in my experience it's even worth it when it'son the other side of the world :) |
| 04:21 | lastnode | id feel like a bit of newb though |
| 04:21 | ive been running koha for all of 3 weeks | |
| 04:22 | rangi | its mostly for newbs |
| 04:22 | lastnode | and not even production, yet |
| 04:22 | rangi | the developer conference afterwards is for the more experienced users |
| 04:22 | lastnode | speaking of whic, rangi, can you edit http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 04:22 | im not sure if the debian scripts are supposed to do this | |
| 04:22 | eythian | do what? |
| 04:22 | lastnode | but i needed on 3 recent squeeze koha installs, to 'a2enmod rewrite' |
| 04:22 | because mod rewrite was not enabled | |
| 04:22 | eythian | oh, yeah |
| 04:23 | rangi | lastnode: its a wiki, anyone can edit it ;) |
| 04:23 | lastnode | and it's not in thehowto |
| 04:23 | eythian | it's kinda by design. |
| 04:23 | lastnode | oh |
| 04:23 | eythian | although it _should_ be in the wiki |
| 04:23 | lastnode | shall i add it? |
| 04:23 | eythian | yes |
| 04:23 | rangi | yes please, you will need to sign up, and confirm your email (to stop spammers) |
| 04:23 | lastnode | wow your captcha is throwing me, guys |
| 04:23 | 90 - 6? | |
| 04:23 | wahanui | 84 |
| 04:23 | lastnode | im an English teacher damnit |
| 04:23 | oh thanks wahanui | |
| 04:23 | eythian | wahanui is a robot :) |
| 04:24 | rangi | but its great to get more people editing the wiki |
| 04:24 | eythian | hence, good at math |
| 04:24 | I want to make koha-create detect if rewrite is on, and if not have it abort. | |
| 04:24 | lastnode | i have heard |
| 04:24 | oh, you're the debian guy eythian? | |
| 04:24 | eythian | but it's against debian policy to actually change it. |
| 04:24 | jup | |
| 04:25 | lastnode | im going to add it under QUick Start just after the msyql server apt-get |
| 04:25 | eythian | sure |
| 04:26 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 04:26 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.5°C (6:24 AM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:26 | eythian | hey, if you're an English teacher, you'd be good at writing man pages for the commands ;) |
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| 04:26 | lastnode | sudo a2enmod rewrite <-- syntax is correct? |
| 04:26 | cait | hi Technicus |
| 04:26 | lastnode | eythian: i can certainly try, ive contributed to foss projects before |
| 04:27 | eythian | yep, that's it |
| 04:27 | lastnode | http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/upstreamdev/ <-- former project, now dead |
| 04:27 | Technicus | Hello! |
| 04:27 | lastnode | hi Technicus |
| 04:28 | eythian | lastnode: well, if you're keen, bug 4877 is where we do that. |
| 04:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P1, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages |
| 04:28 | lastnode | actually eythian http://sourceforge.net/projects/upstream/ |
| 04:28 | sure eythian let me haev a look at that soetime | |
| 04:29 | eythian | oh handy |
| 04:29 | lastnode | eythian: it was wactually written for peeps in #ubuntu for support |
| 04:29 | but canonical developed a project that replacedit | |
| 04:29 | or were, anyway | |
| 04:29 | eythian | ah right |
| 04:30 | cait | Technicus: where are you from? :) |
| 04:30 | eythian | cait: $20 on Wisconson |
| 04:30 | lastnode | eythian: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 04:31 | eythian | lastnode: looks good |
| 04:31 | lastnode | eythian: is having packages for ubuntu a goal of the packagers atm |
| 04:31 | cait | ah :) |
| 04:31 | lastnode | ? |
| 04:31 | rangi | lastnode: like this https://launchpad.net/~koha |
| 04:32 | eythian | Debian, and Ubuntu by proxy. Eventually yeah, but there's a lot of work to be done first. In particular, cleaning up of copyrights and so forth. But also getting packages for languages etc. |
| 04:32 | lastnode | oh right |
| 04:32 | rangi | the main goal is get the packages into debian proper, then they will get it into ubuntu, but for now there are packages for natty at those ppas |
| 04:32 | Technicus | cait: I am right here. |
| 04:32 | lastnode | right |
| 04:33 | do you have a sponsor in mind for debian, rangi? a DD or a DM? | |
| 04:33 | Technicus | Any suggestions for software that could be used in a bike shop? Keeping track of inventory and jobs? |
| 04:33 | rangi | yeah we have a few dd at catalyst, and there are a few others involved in koha |
| 04:34 | lastnode | neat :) |
| 04:34 | i look forward to seeing koha in main in wheezy | |
| 04:34 | rangi | but the main thing is sorting out the copyright headers and tidying up the packages a bit more, they are pretty close |
| 04:34 | lastnode | sweet |
| 04:34 | ill def havea look at the man pages when i can, eythian | |
| 04:35 | eythian | that's one of the things that needs to be done for getting in Debian ;) |
| 04:35 | lastnode | though iev never written anything as srs as man pages before |
| 04:35 | as we all know, man pages are srs bznz | |
| 04:35 | eythian | also, writing man pages is a handy skill if you don't know how already. |
| 04:35 | lastnode | i wrote some man pages for that project i linked you to iirc |
| 04:35 | but it was a tiny project | |
| 04:35 | eythian | ah yeah. Well, this is just a number of tools, each of which is pretty small itself. |
| 04:36 | lastnode | but in terms of reach, koha is huge |
| 04:36 | which is what i meant, really. ill need to do some reading before i begin, but ill def get down to it after term starts tomorrow | |
| 04:36 | till then im just focusing on hardening the vps i haev setup and then adding 100 books as a pilot | |
| 04:37 | and getting the librarian familiarised with koha | |
| 04:37 | eythian | cool. |
| 04:37 | lastnode | btw im not sure if it's useful, but i ran into this bug |
| 04:37 | running koha remove | |
| 04:37 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6416 | |
| 04:37 | huginn | 04Bug 6416: normal, P5, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove fails when dropping user |
| 04:38 | lastnode | do welink to bugs fromteh wiki?it might be useful. i tore my hair out for a while before googling and realising it was a bug |
| 04:38 | eythian | yeah, that's a weird one. I've not been able to reproduce it. |
| 04:39 | It's fine to link to bugs. | |
| 04:39 | A "known or suspected issues" thing would probably be helpful. | |
| 04:39 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:39 | i ran into it, so ill try and reporduce it on my vm, eythian | |
| 04:40 | eythian | cool. A fix wouldn't go astry, either ;) |
| 04:40 | lastnode | haha, ill have a look |
| 04:40 | but im not a great coder | |
| 04:40 | eythian | I'm not confident just putting in 'localhost' is ideal, especially if you're using a remote server. |
| 04:40 | hmm | |
| 04:40 | I bet it needs a 'like' | |
| 04:40 | lastnode | btw koha will eventually replace koha-common? |
| 04:40 | package i mean,the koha package | |
| 04:41 | eythian | not really |
| 04:41 | What I want is for the koha package to be a pre-setup thing | |
| 04:41 | lastnode | at the moment, koha-common is preferred. this implies that in teh future it will change |
| 04:41 | eythian | so, you install koha and it all works. |
| 04:41 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:41 | eythian | as if you did 'koha-create --createdb koha' |
| 04:41 | lastnode | right |
| 04:41 | eythian | but that turned out to be harder than I thought. |
| 04:47 | lastnode | on a koha production box |
| 04:47 | is it recommended i run iptables | |
| 04:47 | adn filter out everything except ssh and 80/8080 (I run intranet on 8080) | |
| 04:47 | do we have security recommendations? | |
| 04:48 | eythian | that's standard good practice |
| 04:48 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:48 | eythian | the packages do fairly good security as it is, user separation and so on |
| 04:49 | lastnode | also, i setup koha as root because i hadntcreated a non-root ssh user yet. |
| 04:49 | there's no difference in going back | |
| 04:49 | and runnin geveryting as sudo again right | |
| 04:49 | (afteri have a non-root ssh user setupo) | |
| 04:49 | as in, there are no non-root commands in thesetup process, right? | |
| 04:50 | eythian | no, completely no difference |
| 04:50 | all the koha stuff runs as "koha_*instance*" anyway. | |
| 04:50 | that's right | |
| 04:50 | lastnode | cool |
| 04:51 | sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff | |
| 04:51 | i guess | |
| 04:51 | which i actually did, as root i rm -rf /etc/koha/ instead of /etc/koha/sitename | |
| 04:51 | speaking of which, in thatintsance i did an apt-get purge | |
| 04:51 | eythian | heh yes, it makes that harder. |
| 04:51 | lastnode | and i reinsttalled, but /etc/koha never came back |
| 04:52 | during the reinstall | |
| 04:52 | eythian | that seems surprising to me |
| 04:52 | lastnode | is tehre something else i should have done? |
| 04:52 | in my paranoia, i nowhave my 10gig main fs on my vps | |
| 04:52 | cloned | |
| 04:52 | so if i do a foobar like that, illjust restore | |
| 04:53 | eythian | not sure. I think there is something that that can be done to force it to restore conf-files. I would have thought a purge would allow them to come back though |
| 04:53 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:53 | eythian | (/etc stuff is handled differently, as it's expected that the user'll modify it) |
| 04:53 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:55 | eythian: what is teh recommended backup procedure for koha atm | |
| 04:55 | if i write a bash script, should i make it run koha-dump, then grab the files and scp them somewhere | |
| 04:55 | or is tehre another method? | |
| 04:56 | eythian | the next release will have bug 6275 included. This means you can just grab them from /var/spool/koha |
| 04:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6275 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Automated backups of data and config |
| 04:56 | lastnode | ok |
| 04:56 | and apt-get upgrade will pull the new release in? | |
| 04:56 | eythian | but yeah, for now just have a cron job that runs koha-dump |
| 04:56 | yep | |
| 04:57 | lastnode | eythian: also, i notice in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mykohasite |
| 04:57 | it has #transferlog and #rewritelog commented out for both virtualhosts | |
| 04:57 | eythian | yeah |
| 04:57 | lastnode | (opac and intranet). and /var/log/apache2/access.log doesnt show hits to those sites |
| 04:57 | eythian | people want different setups, so I just have a default that can be edited. |
| 04:57 | lastnode | ok, so by default, transfer log is turned off? |
| 04:57 | adn i turn it on by uncommenting? | |
| 04:57 | eythian | no, by default it ends up under virtualhosts_access.log or something along those lines |
| 04:58 | lastnode | oh, at whatpath? |
| 04:58 | eythian | /var/log/apache2 I think |
| 04:58 | but yeah, I usually turn it on | |
| 05:01 | lastnode | oh yeah it's tehre, eythian thanks |
| 05:01 | and there is a chinese ip who has hit :8080 | |
| 05:01 | eythian | it'll be a bot |
| 05:01 | lastnode | only 2 people know this VPS exists lol |
| 05:01 | yeah, spam bots? | |
| 05:01 | i guess they just scan linode subnets | |
| 05:01 | eythian | probably |
| 05:01 | yeah, that'd be likely. | |
| 05:02 | lastnode | 61.160.201.26 - - [03/Sep/2011:23:16:18 -0400] "GET //jmx-console/HtmlAdaptor HTTP/1.1" 302 202 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" |
| 05:03 | it's looking for some JBOSS resource | |
| 05:04 | anyway yeah, gotta keep an eye on the access log. if i enable #TransferLog for both vhosts, eythian, it will also log to other_vhosts_access.log? | |
| 05:10 | eythian | don't think so, no |
| 05:10 | you can probably tell it to log to two places | |
| 05:10 | (actually, to be fair, I haven't checked to see if it logs to both or now) | |
| 05:11 | it appears it doesn't | |
| 05:11 | lastnode | ok, thanks eythian |
| 05:11 | i think having it in one access log makes sense for me | |
| 05:11 | so the default option works fine | |
| 05:11 | eythian++ | |
| 05:11 | eythian | I like to split it up when I'm hosting more than one on a server, just to see what sort of use each one is getting. |
| 05:12 | But it's obviously up to what you want to do with it :) | |
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| 05:15 | cait | ok, it stopped raining :) |
| 05:15 | time to go | |
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| 05:17 | lastnode | eythian: the configs themselves, like System PReferences, Libraries Items etc. are all in the db right? |
| 05:17 | eythian | yep |
| 05:17 | lastnode | just trying to understand when i run koha-dump |
| 05:17 | which parts go to .sql.gz and which go to .tar.gz | |
| 05:17 | eythian | the .sql.gz is the most important, the rest can be recreated without too much difficulty. |
| 05:17 | but having both of them means you can do a really fast recovery | |
| 05:18 | as it won't even need to reindex zebra | |
| 05:18 | lastnode | ok |
| 05:18 | recovery process is | |
| 05:18 | koha-create --createb samedatabasename | |
| 05:18 | and hten koha-restore samedatabasename | |
| 05:19 | right? | |
| 05:19 | assuming i ddid koha-dump samedatabasename on a remote box | |
| 05:19 | eythian | no, for using koha-restore, just do koha-restore instance.sql.gz instance.tar.gz (or similar) |
| 05:19 | it'll do the create etc. itself. | |
| 05:19 | lastnode | oh, right |
| 05:19 | gotcha | |
| 05:20 | eythian | tbh, I usually find myself just using the db dump and importing from it. |
| 05:20 | lastnode | i think someone toldme otherwise here a while back |
| 05:20 | yeah as in using mysql itself? | |
| 05:20 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:20 | lastnode | what does tar.gz have though |
| 05:20 | just zebra indexes? | |
| 05:20 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ages#koha-restore |
| 05:20 | the contents of /var/koha/instancename and /etc/koha/instancename | |
| 05:21 | lastnode | oh, right.thanks eythian |
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| 05:42 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 06:05 | alex_a | hello all |
| 06:05 | kf | hi alex_a |
| 06:07 | lastnode | hi kf hi alex_a |
| 06:07 | o/ | |
| 06:07 | alex_a | hi lastnode |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:53 | lastnode | hi reiveune |
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| 07:12 | hdl | hi |
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| 07:24 | lastnode | hi hdl |
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| 07:41 | kf_away | hm |
| 07:41 | is someone aware of a problem with adding items from staged marc import? | |
| 07:41 | the report tells me 13 items were added, but I see none of them on my records | |
| 07:46 | foudn the problem... | |
| 07:47 | a problem in my data, but I wonder why it said successful | |
| 07:48 | lastnode | kf_away: could it have something to do with this bug? - http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6713 |
| 07:48 | huginn | 04Bug 6713: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , marc import not matching |
| 07:49 | kf_away | lastnode: thx :) |
| 07:49 | lastnode: I was not using matching rules, so no. I had the branch code wrong in my data, trying again now | |
| 07:49 | lastnode | ok |
| 07:50 | you might want to to file a bug repor then, kf_away? | |
| 07:50 | kf_away | yeah, will try to |
| 07:50 | have to finish this tests first | |
| 07:52 | rangi | evening |
| 07:56 | kf_away | hi rangi |
| 08:00 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:00 | huginn | kf_away: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.2°C (9:59 AM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:08 | kf_away | Checked out to Benutzer A : due 26/09/2011 On hold for Benutzer B expected at BSZ-Bibliothek since 05/09/2011 ? |
| 08:14 | does this make sense? | |
| 08:27 | rangi | yep |
| 08:27 | kf_away | ok |
| 08:27 | I don't understand the expected part | |
| 08:28 | because it's still checked out and the due_date is 26th | |
| 08:28 | so why would it be expected to be at the bsz-bibliothek since 5th? | |
| 08:30 | rangi | because it was marked as on transfer to there on the 5th |
| 08:30 | but someone then issued it out after that | |
| 08:30 | kf_away | hm |
| 08:31 | doesn't make sense to me | |
| 08:31 | my item was not on transfer | |
| 08:31 | rangi | it was marked waiting on the 5th |
| 08:32 | kf_away | hm |
| 08:32 | rangi | so was returned then |
| 08:32 | kf_away | still doesn't make sense |
| 08:32 | rangi | does to me |
| 08:32 | kf_away | because: new item |
| 08:32 | checked out to a | |
| 08:32 | hold for b | |
| 08:32 | and that's the status after that | |
| 08:32 | I was creating test cases for sip testing, so I did everything from scratch | |
| 08:33 | this item has never been returned | |
| 08:33 | rangi | and you didnt place the hold before you added the item? |
| 08:33 | kf_away | how would I do that? |
| 08:33 | rangi | on the biblio |
| 08:33 | kf_away | you can't place holds on records without items? |
| 08:33 | rangi | i can |
| 08:33 | kf_away | hm never tried it, but no |
| 08:34 | I imported record and item together | |
| 08:34 | rangi | id check the db, check the reserves table, and the transfers table |
| 08:34 | see if the status is w | |
| 08:35 | kf_away | reserves has one hold |
| 08:35 | found is null | |
| 08:36 | hm tansfers table? | |
| 08:36 | which is that? | |
| 08:36 | ah branchtransfers | |
| 08:36 | almost empty, only one entry for different itemnumber | |
| 08:36 | rangi | [% IF ( itemloo.waitingdate ) %] at[% ELSE %]expected at |
| 08:37 | is waitingdate set? | |
| 08:37 | kf_away | null |
| 08:37 | rangi | right |
| 08:37 | so if the item has a reserve date | |
| 08:37 | but no waitingdate | |
| 08:38 | it will say expected at | |
| 08:38 | if it has a waitingdate it will just say at | |
| 08:38 | kf_away | I feel dumb |
| 08:38 | but I don#t get the expected part really | |
| 08:38 | why not say, on hold since.... | |
| 08:38 | rangi | since |
| 08:38 | kf_away | or expected at due_date |
| 08:38 | rangi | [% IF ( itemloo.waitingdate ) %][% itemloo.waitingdate %] |
| 08:38 | [% ELSE %] | |
| 08:38 | [% IF ( itemloo.reservedate ) %][% itemloo.reservedate %][% END %] | |
| 08:39 | [% END %] | |
| 08:39 | lemme git blame it | |
| 08:39 | right its pre template toolkit | |
| 08:39 | kf_away | but does it still make sense to you? or is it me not getting what it's trying to tell me? |
| 08:40 | it only occurs for item level holds | |
| 08:40 | if that helps | |
| 08:40 | my title level holds only say: checked out to | |
| 08:40 | rangi | been like that since 2004 |
| 08:41 | kf_away | hmpf |
| 08:41 | rangi | sorry 2007 december 24 |
| 08:41 | kf_away | not much better |
| 08:41 | I ould file a bug report and see what others say - perhaps liz can make sense of it | |
| 08:43 | rangi | well it makes sense to me, its saying the oldest reserve has been there since the 5th, and it needs to go to such and such branch to fill it |
| 08:43 | kf_away | oh |
| 08:44 | bug 4298 | |
| 08:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4298 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , title detail display: improve the verbiage related to item level holds |
| 08:44 | kf_away | and I see, I got the order wrong |
| 08:44 | to me it sounds like: it's expected since , but the date still belongs to the hold part | |
| 08:44 | On hold for Benutzer B expected at BSZ-Bibliothek since 05/09/2011 | |
| 08:44 | so more clear (to me) would be: On hold for ... since ... expected at ... | |
| 08:45 | rangi | right |
| 08:45 | id change expected to | |
| 08:45 | if you are going to rearrange it | |
| 08:46 | on hold for .. at .... since ... | |
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| 08:49 | kf_away | that good too |
| 08:49 | I think the expected part makes it confusing | |
| 08:55 | I am updating the bug | |
| 08:57 | rangi++ | |
| 08:57 | thx for helping me figure it out :) | |
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| 09:04 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6318] fields missing when editing a layout <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6318> |
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| 10:17 | slef | grrr turnkey linux |
| 10:17 | hi all | |
| 10:17 | rangi | you saw taht too? |
| 10:18 | slef | tried to reply, got AV test |
| 10:18 | rangi | yep |
| 10:20 | kf_away | hi slef |
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| 10:37 | slef | anyone know if the koha blogs yahoo pipe is OK? |
| 10:38 | rangi | hmm not me |
| 10:39 | slef | http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p[…]17a5ee0e15ed6ca48 |
| 10:39 | and bleah, nengard is the only admin and is afk right? | |
| 10:39 | http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs even | |
| 10:40 | rangi | shes on vacation, well deserved and yeah pipes is lame like that, pity theres nothing that does the same thing |
| 11:02 | lastnode | kf_away: there? |
| 11:02 | wahanui | there is no spoon. |
| 11:03 | lastnode | botsnack wahanui |
| 11:06 | kf_away | lastnode: half |
| 11:07 | wahanui botsnack gummibärchen | |
| 11:07 | wahanui | thanks kf_away :) |
| 11:14 | lastnode | kf_away: im just wrapping my head around dewey/cutter. was wondering if i could ask you some noob questions |
| 11:14 | * lastnode | is not a librarian |
| 11:14 | lastnode | the librarian at school is not a trained one either. it is a small library and we are both still learning |
| 11:23 | kf_away | I am not sure I can help you with dewey |
| 11:24 | it's not widely used in Geramny | |
| 11:25 | lastnode | ohok |
| 11:25 | what do you guys use? | |
| 11:25 | kf_away | there are different things |
| 11:26 | public libraries often use asb, academic sometimes use rvk | |
| 11:26 | a lot of libraries have their own classifications | |
| 11:26 | lastnode: what did you wan to know? | |
| 11:29 | lastnode | when koha pulls in stuff from z39.50 searches |
| 11:29 | adn pulls in the dcc number | |
| 11:29 | can i safely assuem it is a standard | |
| 11:29 | ? | |
| 11:33 | mtj | dcc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
| 11:34 | dcc? | |
| 11:34 | wahanui | rumour has it dcc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
| 11:35 | kf_away | ddc is a standard |
| 11:35 | but I think how far you go using it depends on the library | |
| 11:35 | how deep down in the hierarchy | |
| 11:37 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:37 | im talking after the decimal mainl,y kf_away | |
| 11:37 | and i meant ddc, not dcc, my bad | |
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| 11:38 | lastnode | (before the decimal is pretty easy) |
| 11:38 | kf_away | wahanui: ddc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
| 11:38 | wahanui | ...but ddc is a standard... |
| 11:38 | kf_away | forget ddc |
| 11:38 | wahanui | kf_away: I forgot ddc |
| 11:38 | kf_away | ddc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
| 11:39 | perhaps jcamins can help you here | |
| 11:39 | jcamins | What's the question? |
| 11:40 | My hosting provider had a major DOS incident overnight. | |
| 11:40 | lastnode | jcamins: im trying to wrap my head around dewey/cutter because the librarian at the school i work is not a real librarian (administrative assistant onwhom 'librarian' was thrust) |
| 11:40 | and we're both trying to get the basics down as we deploy koha | |
| 11:41 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 11:42 | Well, DDC is pretty straightforward, really. | |
| 11:42 | lastnode | im familiar now with ddc number / cutter number / work mark |
| 11:42 | but the decimal is confusing (seconday classification) | |
| 11:42 | jcamins | http://www.oclc.org/dewey/vers[…]22print/intro.pdf |
| 11:42 | What's confusing about it? | |
| 11:44 | lastnode | jcamins: more than one discipline etc. but this pdf is great, thanks |
| 11:45 | jcamins: is there a (semi)central dewey authority/server | |
| 11:45 | i can just query when im not sure? | |
| 11:45 | will z39.50 searches/imports from reputed targets (LOC etc.) return a fairly standard dcc call number for every entry? | |
| 11:46 | jcamins | There is no central server other htan OCLC. |
| 11:46 | LC will always have a DDC. | |
| 11:46 | I don't think anyone else is guaranteed to have one. | |
| 11:46 | lastnode | ok jcamins |
| 11:46 | wahanui | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Looks like OSS Labs is busy. |
| 11:47 | lastnode | by ocllc you mean http://deweybrowser.oclc.org/ddcbrowser2/ right? |
| 11:47 | server is timing out atm | |
| 11:47 | jcamins | No. |
| 11:47 | I mean you have to have a subscription to OCLC. | |
| 11:47 | The paid version of Worldcat. | |
| 11:48 | lastnode | oh right |
| 11:49 | i guess ill stick with the LOC for now | |
| 11:49 | *LC. thanks jcamins | |
| 11:50 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 11:50 | Good luck. | |
| 11:50 | lastnode | jcamins: most of the library is fiction. is it ok to just use 812 (for example) and then include a cutter number + work mark? |
| 11:51 | jcamins | If it's fiction, I recommend against using call numbers at all. |
| 11:51 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:51 | jcamins | Or, rather, classification numbers. |
| 11:51 | lastnode | just use cutter directly? |
| 11:51 | jcamins | Use something like: J FIC COL |
| 11:52 | Faster for the cataloger. | |
| 11:52 | lastnode | jcamins: but we'dwant to use a classification system that is scalable |
| 11:52 | int eh long run, to include other books too | |
| 11:52 | hmmm | |
| 11:52 | jcamins | For the nonfiction books, you need to use DDC. |
| 11:52 | That's the way most public and school libraries in the US work- fiction doesn't have classification numbers, just simple call numbers. | |
| 11:53 | lastnode | jcamins: bc then a ton of books have 812, for xample |
| 11:53 | and fiction is such a huge genre | |
| 11:53 | right | |
| 11:54 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 11:55 | lastnode | jcamins: J FIC COL |
| 11:55 | i get FIC | |
| 11:55 | whatis J and COL? | |
| 11:56 | jcamins | Juvenile and the first three letters of the author's last name, respectively. :) |
| 11:56 | lastnode | jcamins: is there a guide for this classification? |
| 11:56 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 11:56 | lastnode | so what other variables go in the J column |
| 11:56 | Juvenile / Adult | |
| 11:56 | jcamins | Just J. |
| 11:57 | lastnode | ok |
| 11:57 | jcamins | In most libraries, it's either FIC COL for an adult book or J FIC COL for a juvenile book. |
| 12:00 | lastnode | ok |
| 12:02 | jcamins: so for shakespeare it would be FIC SHA and then we'd need to have a unique number to identify the play itself | |
| 12:02 | i apologise if many of these questions are very basic. i realise that this channel is full of librarians! | |
| 12:02 | jcamins | Well, that's not really fiction. |
| 12:02 | That's more like "literature." | |
| 12:02 | lastnode | right, that was maybe a bad example |
| 12:02 | so they would be DDC numbered | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:03 | lastnode | and i guess as we go alon gand make mistakes we can always reclassify |
| 12:03 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 12:03 | lastnode | but say if it's GRI for Grisham |
| 12:03 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:03 | lastnode | we'd need anotherunique number for The Pelikan Brief |
| 12:03 | and another unique for each copy | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | Not necessarily. |
| 12:04 | The person reshelving needs to put the books in alphabetical order. | |
| 12:04 | lastnode | and the call number is basically for that, got it |
| 12:04 | jcamins | If they're in alphabetical order, people will be able to find the book they need, even if several books share the same call number. |
| 12:04 | lastnode | right, yeah |
| 12:04 | and i guess each book can have a serial/barcode for us to keep track of both editions and copies | |
| 12:05 | jcamins | Exactly. |
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| 12:05 | jcamins | The serial/barcode is key. |
| 12:05 | The call number is for the user, the barcode is for the staff. | |
| 12:05 | lastnode | for barcodes, koha defaults to 000x or YYYY-000x |
| 12:05 | i guess YYYY-000x is morescalable | |
| 12:06 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:06 | At least, that's my opinion. | |
| 12:07 | The benefit of the other scheme, though, is that it's easier to make preprinted labels. | |
| 12:10 | lastnode | jcamins: thanks again |
| 12:10 | just leaving work ill be back online ina while | |
| 12:13 | slef | this is the lastnode that I will say these words. I remember the firstnode. The first of many lies. |
| 12:14 | Sweep it into the corner, or hide it under the bed. Say these nodes they go away, but they never do. | |
| 12:14 | Some node I wasn't sure of, but I was in the middle of. Some node I forget now, but I've seen too little of. | |
| 12:15 | * slef | thinks it's clearly time for lunch. Overwork is starting to show. |
| 12:57 | mtj | hmmm , koha list is down? |
| 12:57 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/ | |
| 13:07 | lastnode | jcamins: oh, right. i guess you could potentially print 500 for each year? :) |
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| 13:10 | druthb | mornin'. |
| 13:11 | lastnode | hi druthb |
| 13:12 | jcamins | lastnode: yeah, but how confident would you be that you're going to use all 500? |
| 13:13 | Morning, druthb. :) | |
| 13:14 | druthb | @wunder sioux falls, sd |
| 13:14 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 8.0°C (7:56 AM CDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:17 | lastnode | that's true, jcamins :) |
| 13:18 | jcamins: i guess starting frm 0000 makes it easier | |
| 13:18 | if yo want to pre-preint labels | |
| 13:18 | and it is an option. it's not like having the year makes it a lot easier to find stuff | |
| 13:19 | jcamins | The advantage of having the year is that it makes it easier to search through paper accession records. |
| 13:20 | lastnode | that's true |
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| 13:46 | slef | mtj: main site looks up. Worth an email to infokatipo you think? |
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| 15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:17 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5916] Don't show the link to edit authorities to people who don't have permissions to edit <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5916> |
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| 18:35 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:35 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
| 18:35 | cait | hi druthb:) |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Where should I have photos printed? |
| 18:57 | cait | no idea :) |
| 18:57 | hi jared | |
| 18:58 | druthb | I've done photo printing at Kinko's before, and they did a good job. |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Costco has 4x6 prints for $0.13. |
| 18:59 | $0.09 at FedEx Office. | |
| 19:00 | Apparently FedEx office uses Snapfish. | |
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| 19:37 | rangi | morning |
| 19:37 | druthb | hi, rangi! |
| 19:37 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 19:37 | rangi | heya traveller, where you at now? |
| 19:38 | druthb | Sioux Falls, SD. Lovely campground, but chilly early in the morning, for tenters. was 7C this morning. |
| 19:39 | rangi | ahh that sounds like wellington mornings :) |
| 19:39 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 19:39 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:39 | druthb | @wunder sioux falls, SD |
| 19:39 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 20.0°C (1:56 PM CDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:39 | druthb | Warmed up a bunch so far... |
| 19:39 | rangi | 20 is nice |
| 19:40 | druthb | yeah. The minion thinks it's still cold. |
| 19:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:40 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7°C (9:38 PM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:40 | cait | brr |
| 19:40 | autumn like here :( | |
| 19:40 | druthb | I started a campfire this morning, let that run for a while, and worked at the picnic table close by. :) |
| 19:40 | rangi | sweet |
| 19:41 | druthb | Got enough wood here for a fire tonight, too. :) |
| 19:44 | rangi | and marshmallows? :) |
| 19:44 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 19:44 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.7°C (12:44 PM PDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:44 | bg | be hard to beat that today |
| 19:44 | rangi | heya bg |
| 19:44 | bg | hey a rangi |
| 19:48 | rangi | quiet day in the us today eh? |
| 19:48 | druthb | very |
| 19:49 | rangi | u know it'd suck for the librarians working it |
| 19:49 | but I think public holidays are the best day for them to be open | |
| 19:50 | bg | ok I'll bbiab |
| 19:50 | lunch time here | |
| 19:50 | rangi | cool |
| 19:51 | its always the museums busiest days here | |
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| 20:13 | cait | good night all |
| 20:13 | rangi | cya cait |
| 20:14 | cait | :) |
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| 20:47 | rangi | sup trea |
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| 20:49 | druthb | o/ |
| 20:50 | rangi | wb druthb |
| 20:50 | druthb | thanks! :) |
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| 21:08 | trea | o/ |
| 21:09 | hi rangi | |
| 21:09 | druthb | hi, trea! |
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| 21:21 | em | Can anyone help me with zebra? |
| 21:21 | i know absolutly nothing :( | |
| 21:22 | all of my searches are broken, i have re-indexed zebra and still nothing | |
| 21:22 | it stopped working after update :( | |
| 21:24 | rangi | what did you update? |
| 21:24 | em | everything, went to newest update |
| 21:24 | rangi | which is? |
| 21:25 | em | 3.4.40 |
| 21:25 | rangi | didnt you install that already ? |
| 21:25 | em | yes, but i cant get zebra to work |
| 21:25 | i dont know anything about it | |
| 21:25 | rangi | is zebrasrv running? |
| 21:25 | em | yes |
| 21:26 | rangi | and you have zebra switched on system preferences? |
| 21:26 | em | i am pretty sure i do |
| 21:26 | i will check | |
| 21:26 | rangi | and when you reindex do you do it as the same user that is running zebrasrv |
| 21:26 | also try the reindex with -v | |
| 21:26 | to see if it outputs any errors | |
| 21:26 | em | ok |
| 21:26 | just a sec | |
| 21:27 | is zebra in sys prefrences? | |
| 21:27 | rangi | nozebra |
| 21:27 | make sure its not set to use nozebra | |
| 21:27 | em | what does the prefrence NoZebraIndexes do? |
| 21:28 | rangi | nothing |
| 21:28 | wahanui | nothing is ever gone in git |
| 21:28 | em | ok |
| 21:28 | the prefrence NoZebra is set to USe | |
| 21:28 | is that good? | |
| 21:29 | ... | |
| 21:29 | rangi | im at work, gimme a minute |
| 21:29 | em | ok |
| 21:29 | rangi | yes, it should be set to use |
| 21:29 | em | ok |
| 21:30 | what should i rebuild? | |
| 21:30 | nozebra or zebra | |
| 21:30 | rangi | zebra |
| 21:30 | never nozebra | |
| 21:30 | em | ok |
| 21:30 | rangi | do it with -b -x -v -r |
| 21:30 | as the switches | |
| 21:31 | em | ok |
| 21:31 | doing it right now | |
| 21:31 | could not select database - error 109 | |
| 21:32 | rangi | theres your problem |
| 21:32 | em | and i would fix this how? |
| 21:32 | rangi | are you 100% sure you are running zebrasrv and the rebuild_zebra as the same user? |
| 21:33 | em | umm |
| 21:33 | what user is the default? kohaadmin | |
| 21:33 | rangi | no |
| 21:33 | em | what is the default? |
| 21:33 | wahanui | the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns |
| 21:33 | rangi | whatever you chose when installing |
| 21:33 | how are you running zebrasrv? | |
| 21:34 | em | ubuntu |
| 21:34 | rangi | no, how are you running it, how is it started? |
| 21:34 | em | it does it by itself |
| 21:34 | when i turn it on | |
| 21:34 | i used the koha live cd | |
| 21:35 | how do you switch users in the terminal? | |
| 21:35 | rangi | first we have to find what user is running zebrasrv |
| 21:35 | look in /etc/init.d/ | |
| 21:35 | em | ok |
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| 21:35 | rangi | is there a file koha-zebra-daemon ? |
| 21:36 | em | yes |
| 21:36 | rangi | less that file |
| 21:36 | em | what? |
| 21:36 | open it? | |
| 21:37 | rangi | yes |
| 21:37 | em | ok |
| 21:37 | ok, what am i looking for? | |
| 21:37 | rangi | less /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 21:37 | is what i would do | |
| 21:37 | at the top | |
| 21:37 | USER=something | |
| 21:37 | what is something | |
| 21:37 | em | USER=koha |
| 21:38 | rangi | right |
| 21:38 | so zebrasrv is running as koha | |
| 21:38 | em | ok |
| 21:38 | rangi | so you need to run rebuild_zebra as koha |
| 21:38 | em | how do i do that, |
| 21:38 | sudo ...? | |
| 21:39 | rangi | where is your koha-conf.xml file? |
| 21:39 | 2 ways you can do it | |
| 21:39 | em | ok |
| 21:39 | i am searching for it | |
| 21:40 | /etc/koha | |
| 21:40 | rangi | sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r |
| 21:40 | em | wow |
| 21:40 | ok | |
| 21:40 | rangi | (fix the /path/to bits) |
| 21:40 | or you can sudo su - koha | |
| 21:40 | em | ok |
| 21:41 | rangi | and export KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB etc |
| 21:41 | em | wow, slow down here :) do i incude /koha-conf.xml ? or just /etc/koha |
| 21:42 | rangi | include koha-conf.xml |
| 21:42 | em | ok |
| 21:43 | wait ... | |
| 21:45 | command not found | |
| 21:46 | nevermind | |
| 21:46 | cant open perl script | |
| 21:46 | nevermind again | |
| 21:47 | no errors, but in log it says permission denied zebra_lock_create fail | |
| 21:47 | search still broken | |
| 21:47 | rangi | right i suspect whats happened is you ran it as root once right? |
| 21:47 | and the permissions are now all messed up | |
| 21:48 | em | opps |
| 21:48 | rangi | so zebrasrv cant read the files |
| 21:48 | em | opps |
| 21:48 | rangi | does it give the full path? |
| 21:48 | em | yes |
| 21:48 | rangi | can you paste that in please |
| 21:48 | em | ok |
| 21:48 | i have to do manuly as i am on diff. computer | |
| 21:48 | did you want all of them or just one? | |
| 21:48 | rangi | is it /var/lib/koha ? |
| 21:49 | em | no] |
| 21:49 | rangi | /var/lock/koha ? |
| 21:49 | em | it is /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm.. |
| 21:49 | rangi | right |
| 21:49 | can you do this | |
| 21:49 | em | it is /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow.. |
| 21:49 | ok | |
| 21:50 | rangi | sudo chown -R koha:koha /var/lock/koha |
| 21:50 | and then | |
| 21:50 | sudo chown -R koha:koha /var/lib/koha | |
| 21:50 | then hit the up arrow a few times till you get the rebuild command back, and run that again | |
| 21:50 | em | ok |
| 21:51 | :D | |
| 21:51 | i think it worked | |
| 21:51 | testing | |
| 21:51 | nope | |
| 21:51 | still broke | |
| 21:52 | rangi | you will have to restart zebrasrv |
| 21:52 | em | but no errors as far as i can see |
| 21:52 | ok | |
| 21:52 | how do i do that | |
| 21:52 | rangi | sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon restart |
| 21:52 | (no more error 109 eh?) | |
| 21:52 | em | yep :) |
| 21:53 | fatal error | |
| 21:53 | failed to find pid for koha-zebra-ctl.koha : no such file or directory | |
| 21:53 | rangi | k so it wasnt running |
| 21:53 | sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start | |
| 21:53 | em | oh, it said it was though |
| 21:54 | Starting Zebra Server | |
| 21:54 | rangi | ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" |
| 21:54 | check its running | |
| 21:55 | em | what do i enter after that |
| 21:55 | it just goes to > | |
| 21:55 | rangi | you must have missed a " then |
| 21:55 | em | opps, i did ;) |
| 21:55 | how do i get out? | |
| 21:56 | rangi | ctrl-c |
| 21:56 | em | thanks ;) |
| 21:56 | it brings up a bunch of random things with zebrasrv in red | |
| 21:56 | rangi | is there one |
| 21:57 | zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 21:57 | em | ? |
| 21:57 | rangi | that looks like that |
| 21:57 | em | umm, looking |
| 21:57 | it does not look like it | |
| 21:57 | oh | |
| 21:57 | rangi | what ones are there |
| 21:57 | em | yes |
| 21:58 | rangi | k, try a search now |
| 21:58 | em | there is 2 lines of random crap, then it goes that |
| 21:58 | nope | |
| 21:58 | search broken | |
| 21:58 | rangi | heh, theres nothing random about it |
| 21:58 | ah well, im afraid im out of time, i have to do some work now | |
| 21:58 | em | ok |
| 21:58 | :( | |
| 21:58 | rangi | but its definitely to do with you messing up the permissions |
| 21:59 | em | should i re-do the update? |
| 21:59 | rangi | no |
| 21:59 | you might want to learn a bit about linux server administration though | |
| 21:59 | em | ok, how would i fix the perrmissions then? |
| 21:59 | rangi | running a server isnt easy, and understanding basics like users and permissions etc are vital before you try to admin a server |
| 22:00 | em | :/ |
| 22:00 | rangi | id suggest finding a good intro to linux book and reading it |
| 22:00 | em | that sound boring ;) |
| 22:00 | * rangi | goes back to work |
| 22:00 | em | ok |
| 22:00 | thanks for your help | |
| 22:00 | :) | |
| 22:03 | Anyone else wanna test there skils in koha and ubuntu ;) ??? | |
| 22:05 | meeting on september 7th ... that might be a good time to show up ;) | |
| 22:06 | well, if anyone has any help they could email me at emery.cairnsgmail.com -- i am going to find something to do :( |
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| 22:12 | em | still here ;) |
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| 22:28 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.4 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
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| 23:53 | em | i need help, error on make test for upgrade to 3.04.04 error : C4:PRINT failed to find template.pm in @INC |
| 23:53 | Failed test 'use C4::Print' | |
| 23:56 | anyone? | |
| 23:57 | eythian | you probably don't have Template::Toolkit installed |
| 23:57 | em | how do i install that? |
| 23:57 | eythian | well, are you upgrading from 3.2? |
| 23:57 | em | yes |
| 23:57 | eythian | you're on Debian/Ubuntu? |
| 23:57 | em | yes |
| 23:57 | eythian | sudo aptitude install libtemplate-toolkit-perl should do it |
| 23:58 | em | ok\ |
| 23:58 | that will fix it? | |
| 23:58 | eythian | try it and find out |
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| 23:58 | em | ok |
| 23:58 | eythian | but I expect so |
| 23:59 | em | ok |
| 23:59 | could not find any package whos name or description matched "libtemplate-toolkit-perl" |
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