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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:16 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 00:18 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
| 00:19 | rangi | did you feel the earthquake whereever you are? |
| 00:20 | druthb | I heard some folk here did, but I did not. |
| 00:23 | Agent_Dani | We had that - I felt it while at work and my wife, who was at home some 15 miles closer to the epicenter, didn't. |
| 00:24 | Apparently there was a pretty big aftershock just now. | |
| 00:26 | mtj | random linux Q... ext4 or ext3 for prod file-systems? |
| 00:27 | any prefs? | |
| 00:27 | druthb | I've never used ext4. |
| 00:27 | I've used ext3 and...hm...xfs, I think? | |
| 00:28 | rangi | dont know enough to have an opinion |
| 00:29 | ibeardslee | we use ext4 for anything new .. although a couple of xfs for special cases |
| 00:29 | mtj | ok, i might stick with ext3 |
| 00:31 | nah, i'll give ext4 a go - its a personal dev box, after all | |
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| 01:13 | eythian | ext4 is pretty mature these days |
| 01:21 | rangi | hey NateC, you survived eh? |
| 01:21 | NateC | heh yeah bareley |
| 01:21 | rangi | :) |
| 01:22 | NateC | see i still cant spell |
| 01:22 | rangi | :) good time had by all? |
| 01:26 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]otorway-samaritan <-- kids these days, sheesh | |
| 02:00 | eythian | is it just me, or is there no appreciable difference between acquisitions-history-search.inc and acquisitions-search.inc? |
| 02:01 | rangi | havent looked |
| 02:01 | i will tho | |
| 02:02 | nope looks very similair even with a diff | |
| 02:02 | eythian | cool |
| 02:03 | in that case, I'm removing the history one and making everything use the regular one. | |
| 02:03 | rangi | sounds good to me |
| 02:39 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6721] Add Basket number and Invoice number search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6721> |
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| 03:27 | druthb | o/ |
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| 03:38 | Amit_Gupta | good morning ;) |
| 03:38 | heya chris | |
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| 04:37 | bg | heya |
| 04:38 | rangi | heya bg |
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| 05:21 | BobB | @wunder Sydney |
| 05:21 | huginn | BobB: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 05:21 | BobB | Not surprising |
| 05:22 | Hey rangi, mtj - either of you about? | |
| 05:24 | ok will try later | |
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| 06:32 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:32 | magnuse | bonjour |
| 06:32 | wahanui | what's up, magnuse |
| 06:33 | sophie_m | hi #koha and magnuse |
| 06:36 | mtj | BobB: hey, about for a bit. |
| 06:37 | hdl | hi all |
| 06:40 | magnuse | kia ora! |
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| 07:02 | cait | hi all :) |
| 07:02 | magnuse | guten morgen! |
| 07:03 | cait | god morgen :) |
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| 07:30 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:36 | magnuse | bonjour |
| 07:36 | wahanui | salut, magnuse |
| 07:37 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 07:42 | rangi | evening |
| 07:44 | cait | evening rangi |
| 07:46 | magnuse | morning rangi |
| 07:46 | rangi | heya cait |
| 07:46 | and Agent_Dani | |
| 07:46 | gah | |
| 07:47 | cait | gah? |
| 07:47 | rangi | magnuse: |
| 07:47 | cait | hehe |
| 07:47 | rangi | tab completion is sometimes unpredictable |
| 07:47 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:47 | cait | but Agent_Dani? |
| 07:47 | rangi | musta missed the m |
| 07:47 | cait | :) |
| 07:47 | rangi | typing to fast |
| 07:47 | cait | lots of tweets from the conference |
| 07:48 | rangi | oh i stopped after a while i couldnt keep up with the other people tweeting :) |
| 07:50 | magnuse | i thought most people there was tweeting on paper? ;-) |
| 07:50 | s/was/were/ | |
| 07:52 | cait | hehe |
| 07:52 | rangi | yep, but there were 2 that were really prolific |
| 07:53 | magnuse | ah |
| 07:54 | i like the rss idea! | |
| 07:54 | and the next step would be to make koha read email, right? ;-) (only kidding, the rss is interesing) | |
| 08:11 | cait | oh, the earthquake is on the news |
| 08:24 | rangi | i think badges, plus the rss feeds things could be combined into your 'public' page |
| 08:25 | magnuse | so everyone can see the stuff in your feeds? |
| 08:25 | rangi | everything private by default, but you can decide what you want to make public |
| 08:25 | magnuse | ah yes |
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| 08:32 | * Oak | waves |
| 08:32 | Oak | Guten Tag cait |
| 08:32 | cait | Hi Oak :) |
| 08:32 | Oak | :) |
| 08:33 | magnuse | |
| 08:34 | magnuse | Oak |
| 08:35 | Oak | just ~4 months to go and there will be another year. how time flies! hm. |
| 08:36 | weird. | |
| 08:36 | magnuse | too true! |
| 08:36 | * Oak | goes into deep thought mode |
| 08:37 | magnuse | but why measure time in years when you can measure it in koha releases? ;-) |
| 08:37 | Oak | aha, yes... |
| 08:38 | cait | hehe |
| 08:38 | Oak | :) |
| 08:38 | cait | but this year was fast, I agree |
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| 08:53 | slef | hi all |
| 08:55 | rangi | hi slef |
| 08:55 | cait | h islef |
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| 10:38 | cait | bye all |
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| 10:51 | jcamins_away | Hello, Amit_Gupta. |
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| 11:04 | druthb | o/4 |
| 11:04 | magnuse | \o |
| 11:04 | 4? | |
| 11:04 | * druthb | grumbles at her fumbly fingers. |
| 11:04 | magnuse | hehe |
| 11:04 | druthb | hi, magnuse. :) |
| 11:04 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
| 11:05 | * druthb | waves to Oak, too. |
| 11:06 | Oak | druthb !! |
| 11:06 | how are ye? | |
| 11:07 | druthb | doing pretty well. It's been a busy few days, but I'm healthy and mostly-happy, so I'll call it a win. |
| 11:07 | magnuse | yay |
| 11:09 | Oak | good good :) |
| 11:09 | go easy on the work though. we hear you work too much ... | |
| 11:09 | druthb | I had an amazing meditation last night over a small piece of crystalline bismuth that someone very special to me gave me recently. stared at this little thing for a half-hour or so, then spent a solid hour on the cushion mulling over some things. That's very refreshing for me. |
| 11:10 | I do work a lot, Oak....but who's been telling tales? :P | |
| 11:12 | Oak | oh cool. this is good. meditation... i want to start... i think i need it too. |
| 11:13 | :) | |
| 11:14 | magnuse | wanders off to meditate on some lunch ;-) |
| 11:15 | Oak | what do you have in mind magnuse ? for lunch? |
| 11:20 | druthb | Meditation is very good for the mind and body, Oak, and it doesn't have to be anything fancy...just sit still someplace comfortable, and stare into a candle, and focus on the flame--that's how I got started. |
| 11:22 | Oak | hmm. sounds good. i'll definitely try it. i am sure it helps ... |
| 11:24 | druthb | don't worry about how *long* you can do it...don't set a timer, or even a goal time...just sit until you can no longer concentrate, for any reason, then get up. There's not much "right" and "wrong" when it comes to meditation; try not to judge how well you are doing it--except by how much better you feel afterward. |
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| 11:34 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 11:34 | Oak | hmm... well, I think when I'll sit, I won't be able to concentrate in the start... then after some effort, I'll begin... :) |
| 11:34 | oh hae Brooke :) | |
| 11:34 | druthb | hi, Brooke! :) |
| 11:35 | Brooke | howdy :) |
| 11:35 | druthb | Oak: that's the idea. even if all you can do the first time is a minute, or five minutes, it's worth the time you spend just sitting. The benefits quickly start to add up. |
| 11:36 | Oak | I better try it then :) |
| 11:38 | druthb | If a candle is not handy, some people repeat to themselves (unhurriedly) a favorite short poem, or scripture from their faith tradition. That works, too. |
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| 11:52 | Brooke | hey nengard :) |
| 11:52 | nengard | hellp |
| 11:52 | or | |
| 11:52 | hello | |
| 11:52 | Brooke | Beau would have run to my place if you needed help ;) |
| 11:53 | hdl | Good Morning America. |
| 11:54 | Hi Amit_Gupta | |
| 11:55 | nengard | aww shucks! thanks, just not sure how i'd get them to you and pick them up |
| 11:56 | Brooke | he'd run. He'd totally find me despite never being in my neighbourhood. |
| 11:57 | it would be better than the Incredible Journey ;) | |
| 11:58 | jcamins_away | Is Beau the one on Ritalin? |
| 11:59 | Brooke | he's the cute one. That's all that matters. |
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| 12:00 | * Oak | waves |
| 12:04 | nengard | jcamins, he's on prozac |
| 12:04 | :) | |
| 12:04 | Brooke has obviously picked a favorite :) hehe | |
| 12:05 | Brooke | baseless allegations are being made against my person! ;) |
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| 12:05 | jcamins_away | nengard: That's what I meant. :) |
| 12:10 | nengard | Brooke you can have a favorite ... I'm the mommy, I can't :) hehe |
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| 12:18 | kyle424 | Hey all, I'm getting this error from zebra: koha-zebra-ctl.koha: failed to write(client_errfd = 6): File too large |
| 12:19 | I'm guessing I'm running into the default 4-gig limit, but I can't figure out what I need to do to increase the limit, any ideas? | |
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| 12:23 | cait | hi NateC, hi äkoha |
| 12:23 | #koha | |
| 12:23 | NateC | hi cait :) |
| 12:25 | Brooke | read that too fast as Asoka XD |
| 12:25 | * Brooke | has India on the brain. |
| 12:25 | magnuse | kyle424: you can edit the limit in zebra-biblios.cfg |
| 12:25 | kyle424: on a normal install that should be /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg i think | |
| 12:26 | but what version? the limit has been 20G since a while back | |
| 12:26 | (early april to be precise) | |
| 12:32 | kyle424 | Maybe that isn't the problem then. |
| 12:32 | The lines starting with shadow and register both end with 20G | |
| 12:33 | the filesystem shows plenty of available space. | |
| 12:35 | jcamins_away | kyle424: what file system are you using? |
| 12:35 | magnuse | kyle424: and how many records are you indexing? |
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| 12:44 | kyle424 | It appears to have been an ownership issue, but now I've got a different problem. When I check out an item, Koha then says I have no items for that record on the search results page. A full reindex will make them show up as checked out. |
| 12:46 | I think it's still the same problem. All the files in /var/lib/zebradb/biblios/register are owned by root, and I think that's causing the problem. I re-owned them to koha, and it appeared to work, but now they are owned by root again. | |
| 12:46 | jcamins_away | You have your cron jobs set up wrong. |
| 12:47 | They need to run as koha. | |
| 12:48 | kyle424 | I'm using the zebraqueue daemon. Both the zebraqueue daemon and the zebra daemon appear to be running as koha. |
| 12:49 | jcamins_away | Oh, and never, _ever_ use the zebraqueue daemon. |
| 12:49 | It's buggy. | |
| 12:49 | kyle424 | I didn't know that was considered a bad practice. Does it have problems? |
| 12:50 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 12:50 | It leaks memory and doesn't work. | |
| 12:50 | The documentation says not to use zebraqueue. | |
| 12:50 | kyle424 | Thanks for the info, I'll set up the cronjob instead. |
| 12:50 | jcamins_away | Good idea. :) |
| 12:50 | Okay, time to start the morning with a trip to the gym. TTYL, all. | |
| 12:51 | kyle424 | Thanks for the help jcamins and magnuse |
| 12:52 | cait | did jcamins_away just say gym? |
| 12:52 | kyle424 | indeed, something I need to start doing. |
| 12:53 | magnuse | kyle424: np |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | Hi sekjal |
| 13:14 | sekjal | hi, oleonard |
| 13:15 | cait | hi oleonard and sekjal |
| 13:15 | sekjal | hi, cait |
| 13:17 | magnuse | hiya folks! |
| 13:17 | sekjal | morning, magnuse |
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| 13:19 | oleonard | kyle907, I see you've leveled up ;) |
| 13:23 | hdl: Is Bug 3067 still valid? | |
| 13:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3067 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , When using getRecords on commandline, facets makes it fail. |
| 13:23 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6694] Anonymous sessions not kept when casAuthentication is on <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6694> | |
| 13:26 | hdl | oleonard: don't know. |
| 13:26 | I think so | |
| 13:27 | unless facets don't use branches any longer | |
| 13:27 | Or GetBranches has been rewritten | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | If so, it needs to be updated to reference master and possibly have the patch updated as well |
| 13:29 | sekjal | for CircAutoComplete, how many results should be shown, maximum, for any partial search? |
| 13:30 | hdl | oleonard: seems that the edit was already merged into facets work |
| 13:30 | So not valid any longer | |
| 13:30 | oleonard | thanks for checking hdl |
| 13:30 | sekjal: Is this part of your work on a unified patron search? | |
| 13:31 | hdl | sekjal: if you ask a librarian, he may answer 10 or 25 or all... |
| 13:31 | sekjal | oleonard: no, it's tangential |
| 13:31 | hdl | so ... :X |
| 13:31 | cait | circautocmplete - the thing that suggests patrons? |
| 13:31 | sekjal | we're finding that on databases with very large numbers of patrons, CircAutoComplete will bog a system down |
| 13:31 | oleonard | sekjal: Does it not limit by default now? |
| 13:31 | sekjal | looking at the SQL in circ/ysearch.pl, it's pretty clear why: it's unlimited |
| 13:32 | I believe the interface layer limits... I'm seeing a MaxCacheEntries value of 60 | |
| 13:32 | hdl | maybe could take the patronperpage limit by default |
| 13:33 | oleonard | But the results should indicate to the user that they are incomplete |
| 13:34 | (ideally) | |
| 13:34 | Not that I've heard complaints about that aspect of it | |
| 13:37 | sekjal | if the interface is already limiting to 60 at a time, then I think the SQL should do the same |
| 13:38 | most of the time, I think people are typing 2-5 letters anyway before looking at the hits list, so those first couple queries are just wasted CPU cycles | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | I'm only seeing 10 results |
| 13:39 | By the way sekjal, in my work on integrating jQueryUI I have the autocomplete configured to not start searching until the query reaches 3 letters | |
| 13:40 | magnuse | sounds sensible |
| 13:41 | sekjal | oleonard: that sounds awesome. start at 3, and limit to 10 or 25 (or even 60) in the SQL will significantly reduce the impact on databases with hundreds of thousands of patron records |
| 13:41 | oleonard | The changes I refer to are client-side only. It's a configuration of the jquery autocomplete widget |
| 13:42 | So a script-side fix would complement it | |
| 13:42 | fredericd | current autocompletion system uses YUI which is deprecated in Koha, isn't it? |
| 13:42 | oleonard | Not deprecated yet. Not until the jQuery UI stuff is ready |
| 13:42 | fredericd | and yes, a SQL search without LIMIT is insane with large borrowers table |
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| 13:42 | oleonard | fredericd: We're still waiting on an official release of the jQueryUI menu widget to replace the YUI one |
| 13:43 | sekjal | okay ,adding the limit to the circ/ysearch.pl SQL is a simple one-liner. Just need to file the bug report, and pick a number. |
| 13:43 | if the interface is only showing 10 at a time, then that would seem like a good choice | |
| 13:43 | fredericd | oleonard: ok, I understand (and favor this replacement since YUI begin to show its age) |
| 13:43 | cait | hi fredericd |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:44 | fredericd | cait: hi |
| 13:44 | wahanui | hello, fredericd |
| 13:44 | magnuse | since paul_p is not here: why not make the limit a syspref? ;-) |
| 13:44 | oleonard | YUI seems to be another casualty of Yahoo's habit of eventual neglect |
| 13:45 | magnuse: As hdl points out, we already have PatronsPerPage | |
| 13:45 | fredericd | magnuse: it would be a transient syspref |
| 13:46 | cait | hehe |
| 13:46 | * magnuse | was mostly kidding ;-) |
| 13:46 | magnuse | dinnertime! |
| 13:46 | cait | dinner? |
| 13:48 | Agent_Dani | o/ |
| 13:48 | cait | hi Agent_Dani :) |
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| 13:57 | cait | time to change trains |
| 13:58 | * oleonard | borrows talljoy_DND's 20-sided die |
| 13:58 | talljoy_DND | lol |
| 13:58 | Agent_Dani | That was how I read it at first... |
| 14:30 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6769] Getting rid of some RIS format export errors and warnings <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6769> |
| 14:31 | magnus_afk | 83 needs signoff! |
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| 14:43 | jcamins_away | smoothies++ |
| 14:44 | I don't understand how it took me 25 years to think of blending yogurt and fruit together and calling it breakfast. | |
| 14:47 | oleonard | I thought I would test the patch for Bug 6769, but I'm finding that with our without the patch my RIS exports contain almost no data |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6769 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Getting rid of some RIS format export errors and warnings |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: hehe |
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| 15:04 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 15:04 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | oh bother gotta clear teh cache, sec |
| 15:04 | but anyway, it should be working again. | |
| 15:04 | * wizzyrea | mutters about plugins that delete their data when updating. |
| 15:05 | magnus_afk | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:06 | is there a way for patrons to return books, other than scanning barcodes in the sco client? i think not, but might have missed something... | |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | no I don't think so |
| 15:06 | that would be considered "dangerous" in lots of libraries | |
| 15:06 | oleonard | magnus_afk: Like by crossing their hearts and swearing they did? :P |
| 15:06 | magnuse | oleonard: yeah, something like that |
| 15:07 | i have a pretty "relaxed" school asking about it | |
| 15:08 | i'll just tell them they have to scan barcodes | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | sekjal, about? |
| 15:19 | ah nm | |
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| 15:21 | lastnode|laptop | hi |
| 15:21 | wahanui | hola, lastnode|laptop |
| 15:21 | lastnode|laptop | im setting up koha on ubuntu natty |
| 15:22 | is this guide current? | |
| 15:22 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu | |
| 15:22 | oleonard | Use the INSTALL file that comes with Koha. Are you downloading the latest version? |
| 15:24 | lastnode|laptop | yes |
| 15:24 | magnuse | or try using the PPA set up by the current Release Manager: https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa (i'm not sure how experimental that is...) |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | I wonder if I could get a couple of people to look at/test bug 6253 |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
| 15:27 | davi | hi wizzyrea. Has leals.com been added to the support list? |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Sure wizzyrea, anything in particular? |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | yes, actually |
| 15:27 | test the 3 part name search | |
| 15:27 | and check to see if the library/category limiting works | |
| 15:28 | lastnode|laptop | magnuse: yeah that links to this guide |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | and finally check to make sure that searching on extended attributes still works |
| 15:30 | davi | wizzyrea? |
| 15:30 | wahanui | wizzyrea is probably amazing! |
| 15:31 | wizzyrea | davi, had you addressed the legal concerns that were raised about your website, on the list or otherwise? |
| 15:31 | my apologies if I missed it | |
| 15:32 | davi | As per the email you sent me, and and per the decisions taken in the last meeting there is not any problem |
| 15:32 | I do not know addtional requirements are | |
| 15:33 | What are those concerns you are talking about? | |
| 15:33 | any URL to the mailing list? | |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | they were brought up on the list, let me find the link |
| 15:34 | davi | yes my MJ Ray, |
| 15:34 | they were not agreed on the last Koha meeting | |
| 15:34 | Am I mistaken? | |
| 15:34 | If so please let me know | |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | davi - I have to go away for a little bit right now, but will be back soon |
| 15:35 | davi | no problem |
| 15:35 | later | |
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| 15:38 | lastnode|laptop | im havng a little problem with the SAX Parser |
| 15:38 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu | |
| 15:38 | in this guide | |
| 15:39 | error message - http://pastebin.ca/2078137 | |
| 15:39 | i followed teh step and moved XML:LibXML::SAX:parser to the end of teh file | |
| 15:39 | to the end of /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini | |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | where is PurePerl in the list? |
| 15:40 | and I'm back :) | |
| 15:40 | lastnode|laptop | #1 |
| 15:40 | davi | welcome back |
| 15:40 | lastnode|laptop | wizzyrea: #1 |
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| 15:41 | wizzyrea | just for fun put XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser where PurePerl is |
| 15:43 | lastnode|laptop | oh wizzyrea it looks like a path error? |
| 15:43 | lastnodeubuntu:~/koha-latest/koha-3.04.04$ misc/sax_parser_print.pl could not find ParserDetails.ini in /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/XML/SAX |
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| 15:44 | it'slooking for it i in /usr/local | |
| 15:44 | and im editing an ini in /etc/perl | |
| 15:44 | k i copied the file across | |
| 15:44 | looks good, apparently ^^ | |
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| 15:46 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 15:46 | nengard | easy jquery question ... how do make Surname say 'Last name'? |
| 15:46 | oleonard | Where? |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:47 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm not getting any results when searching for extended patron attributes |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | aha, and that works now? |
| 15:48 | davi | wizzyrea: Could you provide me with that link, so that I can check it against the agreed in the lat Koha meeting? |
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| 15:48 | oleonard | wizzyrea: "works now?" ? |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | it works in current master, without the patch? |
| 15:49 | extended patron attributes searching works on current master, before you apply this patch? | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:49 | nengard | oleonard on the patron add form - sorry |
| 15:50 | oleonard | $("label[for='surname']").html("Last name:"); |
| 15:51 | davi | wizzyrea: If the rules agreed in the Koha meeting can be trashed by MJ Ray (slef) and you, just let me know. |
| 15:51 | If you are not willing to list leals.com just let me know | |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | davi, I do not appreciate your tone. |
| 15:51 | davi | no problem, sincerely :) |
| 15:51 | oleonard | davi: You're not helping yourself by not being civil |
| 15:52 | davi | I have waited for months to be listed |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | I am actually currently putting off other things to work on your listing. |
| 15:52 | davi | first delayed but meeting |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | So the very least you can do is be respectful of my time. |
| 15:52 | davi | ten just not listed even disagreeing the rules voted at last meeting |
| 15:52 | then* | |
| 15:53 | I respect you, I am just a bit suspicous after all this delay! | |
| 15:54 | Please, let me know anything at anytime | |
| 15:54 | later | |
| 15:57 | lastnode|laptop | douchebag foss user |
| 15:57 | comes into channel of software maintained by volunteers | |
| 15:58 | demands things | |
| 15:58 | with smiley :) faces | |
| 15:58 | nengard | thanks oleonard |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | lastnode|laptop: well I wasn't going to go that far >.> |
| 16:00 | oleonard | No point in lowering the tone all around |
| 16:01 | davi | back |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea: Sorry if I look nervous | |
| 16:03 | We are short of customers now | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | davi: Do you not have the original email thread where you first requested to be listed? |
| 16:07 | davi | yes, I have it |
| 16:07 | I have read it several times | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Why not post a new response there? |
| 16:07 | davi | and all fit with the agreed in the last Koha meeting |
| 16:07 | If needed I will | |
| 16:08 | but as wizzyrea , who already know all the subject, is already working in the listing of leals.com I think it will not needed | |
| 16:08 | 15:46 < wizzyrea> I am actually currently putting off other things to work on your listing. | |
| 16:09 | oleonard | wizzyrea does not make the decision by herself. Since an objection was made, the decision should now get some consensus |
| 16:09 | davi | A meetin was set in place with a point to discuss the subject |
| 16:09 | so it was discussed even in a meeting | |
| 16:09 | the last one | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | It looks to me like there's not a problem, let's get others' opinions |
| 16:10 | lastnode|laptop | koha tells me the following modules are missing http://pastebin.com/1TN5shay |
| 16:10 | do i need to get them via cpan? | |
| 16:10 | davi | I know wizzyrea does not take the decission her self |
| 16:10 | cait | hm |
| 16:10 | hm, have you checked the logs for the meeting? | |
| 16:10 | davi | yes, I have read the logs |
| 16:10 | cait | lastnode which os are you using? |
| 16:10 | davi | and the wiki page |
| 16:10 | wahanui | hmmm... the wiki page is broken again. |
| 16:11 | cait | forget using |
| 16:11 | using is <reply> | |
| 16:11 | lastnode|laptop | cait: ubuntu, and i think i figured out why. sec. |
| 16:11 | cait | ah |
| 16:11 | ah, I think you can install all modules with apt-get in ubuntu | |
| 16:11 | no need to use cpan | |
| 16:11 | you can even use the packages from debian.koha-community.org | |
| 16:12 | and it will install all dependencies | |
| 16:13 | lastnode|laptop | yeah i think im about done, cait |
| 16:14 | * lastnode|laptop | w00ts |
| 16:14 | cait | ok |
| 16:14 | :) | |
| 16:14 | got to the web installer? | |
| 16:14 | lastnode|laptop | installed and finished |
| 16:14 | yay | |
| 16:14 | to clarify, zebra is just for search indexing right? | |
| 16:14 | to backup library data, i juts need to backup the mysql db? | |
| 16:15 | magnuse | lastnode|laptop: yes |
| 16:16 | cait | yes |
| 16:16 | if you don't make local changes you want to keep too, the database is enough | |
| 16:16 | I think you could also backup the zebra index to avoid reindexing | |
| 16:17 | lastnode|laptop | thank you. can someone also tell me if this setup makes sense from a design POV? the school im working at has limited Internet access, so I'm thinking a LAN install of koha that rsyncs to a remote install daily |
| 16:17 | oleonard | davi, I'm surprised you didn't email a follow-up query to the list immediately after that IRC meeting. I would recommend doing it now |
| 16:17 | lastnode|laptop | that way the LAN db would always be up to date, and the remote db (for staff to check from home, for example) would nearly always be up to date |
| 16:17 | we only have 3000 books atm | |
| 16:17 | but im thinking ahead | |
| 16:17 | im terribly sorry if that is a dumb question in any way | |
| 16:18 | as ive mentioned here before, im an English teacher, not a programmer/sysadmin | |
| 16:19 | davi | I did not want to press to wizzyrea |
| 16:20 | oleonard: ^ | |
| 16:20 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:20 | cait | hm |
| 16:20 | don't think it's a dumb question | |
| 16:21 | davi | Thanks wizzyrea: Could you use <br /> at to break the paragraphs? |
| 16:22 | lastnode|laptop | cait: since im not a sysadmin, i did look at koha hosting |
| 16:23 | but i think it's outside our budget | |
| 16:23 | my main concenr is, if somethinghappens, data has gotta be recoverable/exportable | |
| 16:24 | davi | wizzyrea: Also, at join lines, some ones have lost the space. For example: "focuson" instead of "focus on" |
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| 16:31 | lastnode|laptop | once i run rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 16:31 | books should start to show up in teh catalog right | |
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| 16:32 | oleonard | lastnode|laptop: Assuming you did the little dance, and are wearing the special hat. |
| 16:32 | lastnode|laptop | im wearing a hat, but nobody told me about the dance |
| 16:32 | doc team needs to get on it imo | |
| 16:32 | cait | what did I miss? |
| 16:32 | * cait | looks confused |
| 16:32 | * oleonard | 's experiences getting zebra to work may not be universal |
| 16:33 | * cait | sends oleonard cookies |
| 16:33 | * oleonard | would so gobble up cookies |
| 16:34 | oleonard | I would suggest we do a snack exchange on #koha but I fear my country has nothing anyone else would want |
| 16:34 | rhcl_away | poor cait, so confused. Your missed the zebra dance that lnl and oleonard were discussing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_9zqt1Rw4 |
| 16:35 | cait | oleonard: can't be that bad |
| 16:35 | I heard jcamins produces very yummy cookies in your country :) | |
| 16:36 | lastnode|laptop | is there a post-install guide someone can link me to maybe? |
| 16:36 | cait | rhcl_away: thx for the link - but can't watch that from here :( |
| 16:36 | lastnode|laptop | googling has not helped :( |
| 16:36 | cait | lastnode: what's the problem? |
| 16:36 | wahanui | i guess the problem is its human beings doing it |
| 16:36 | * oleonard | loves that one |
| 16:36 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 16:36 | wahanui | :) |
| 16:36 | cait | me too |
| 16:36 | oleonard | lastnode|laptop: Have you checked the searching faq? |
| 16:37 | searching faq? | |
| 16:37 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 16:37 | cait | search faq? |
| 16:37 | wahanui | rumour has it search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 16:37 | cait | hehe |
| 16:37 | lastnode: I lost connection (on a train) what is the zebra doing? | |
| 16:37 | or not doing | |
| 16:37 | rhcl_away | ah, you just gotta see it... |
| 16:38 | But it's particularly appropriate to the discussion about zebra and dancing above. | |
| 16:39 | cait | rhcl_away: I can't - would have to leave germany to see it |
| 16:39 | rhcl_away | say what? Youtube banned there? |
| 16:39 | cait | rhcl_away: blocked for copyrights |
| 16:39 | not youtube, but some videos don't work | |
| 16:40 | rhcl_away | sigh. OK, use tor. But the vid is just some guy in with a zebra head mask doing a silly dance. |
| 16:40 | * oleonard | likes that we're the first hit on Google for 'Global bug squashing day' |
| 16:42 | rhcl | and rangi is 7 on the list |
| 16:43 | cait | :) |
| 16:43 | lastnode|laptop | ok wonderful |
| 16:43 | thank you all very much | |
| 16:43 | i am off to bed but will be back to pick your brains as i get ready to pitch this to the school administration | |
| 16:43 | what a truly awesome application you guys have going here :) | |
| 16:43 | good day, friends! | |
| 16:47 | cait | :) |
| 16:47 | good night | |
| 16:58 | davi | I remember to everybody you are invited to join leals.com as _owners_. See http://www.leals.com/partners |
| 16:58 | later | |
| 17:02 | cait | oleonard: checked="checked"? |
| 17:02 | sorry, only looking at a template right now and wondeirng if checked should be checked="checked" to be correct xhtml | |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Yes |
| 17:02 | <input type="checkbox" checked /> is invalid | |
| 17:03 | cait | <input type="checkbox" name="removeItem" /> |
| 17:03 | <input type="checkbox" name="removeItem" checked="checked" /> | |
| 17:04 | oleonard | Those are correct |
| 17:06 | cait | thx :) |
| 17:07 | I am working on the big translation bug | |
| 17:07 | lots of template changes | |
| 17:09 | oleonard | cait: I had not idea we had so many places that were still wrong |
| 17:10 | cait | still invalid xhtml or directives in html? |
| 17:10 | I think the test will help that now | |
| 17:10 | not the xhtml, but the directives | |
| 17:10 | jenkins will start to whine everyt time a new one is added, but first we have to fix them all to make him happy again :) | |
| 17:10 | if you want to sign-off on some I would be happy, trying to make no mistakes, but easy to miss something | |
| 17:12 | oleonard | I mean I had no idea there were still so many places in the templates where that incorrect template syntax was used (template directives inside tags) |
| 17:12 | cait | ah |
| 17:12 | I think they kept creeping back in | |
| 17:12 | it seems a smart thing to do | |
| 17:12 | only it's not | |
| 17:13 | oleonard | The trouble is we all like efficiency too darn much |
| 17:14 | magnuse | hehe |
| 17:15 | cait | :) |
| 17:15 | thxfor the mail magnuse :) | |
| 17:15 | magnuse | your welcome |
| 17:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines might need an update? | |
| 17:17 | slef | yes, that needs quite a few |
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| 17:57 | cait | oleonard: does this make sense to you? |
| 17:58 | <div name="[% year.year %]" id="[% year.year %]" style="position:absolute; visibility:hidden; margin-top:0px; border:4px;" [% IF ( year.first ) %]style="visibility:visible"[% END %]> | |
| 17:58 | never heard of visibility, but having it hidden and visible seems strange | |
| 18:00 | oleonard | display:none is usually what is used. Where's that from? |
| 18:00 | aarkerio | hi! |
| 18:00 | opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tmpl change to | |
| 18:00 | opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tt ? | |
| 18:01 | magnuse | aarkerio: yes, the templating system changed to Template Toolkit with version 3.4 |
| 18:01 | cait | serial-issues-full.tt |
| 18:01 | line 46 | |
| 18:02 | aarkerio | I am following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS |
| 18:03 | oleonard | cait: I wouldn't worry about it unless you can find a problem with how it works currently |
| 18:03 | cait | hm |
| 18:03 | magnuse | aarkerio: yeah, that page needs an update |
| 18:03 | cait | what I did was make it an if else construction |
| 18:03 | and moved the style inside the other | |
| 18:03 | so only visibilty:hidden for the if | |
| 18:04 | and visibility hidden for the else | |
| 18:04 | oleonard | cait: What process are you using the find these errors? |
| 18:04 | cait | there is a test |
| 18:04 | xt/tt_valid | |
| 18:04 | magnuse | oleonard: clairvoyance! |
| 18:05 | oleonard | cait: How is it run? |
| 18:05 | cait | perl xt/tt_valid... |
| 18:07 | oleonard | And that's all? |
| 18:10 | cait | yep |
| 18:10 | it gives you the lines and files | |
| 18:10 | I am doing it by modules now | |
| 18:10 | oleonard | I get "Can't stat ./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en: No such file or directory at tt_valid.t line 45" |
| 18:10 | cait | started at the beginning, but skipped some in the middle |
| 18:11 | hm | |
| 18:11 | where did you run ti? | |
| 18:11 | from the kohaclone directory? | |
| 18:11 | oleonard | No, but it seems to like that better. Got results. |
| 18:11 | cait | ah cool |
| 18:12 | if you could sign-off on some it would be cool too | |
| 18:12 | oleonard | Sure |
| 18:12 | cait | rangi started but I had made some mistakes... updated the patches and trying to notmake them again :) |
| 18:13 | some have really a lot of errors :( | |
| 18:14 | not so surprising that one of them is memberentry | |
| 18:14 | it's bad for translation anyway | |
| 18:14 | lot's of strings puzzled together | |
| 18:16 | * oleonard | can't log into self checkout |
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| 18:24 | aarkerio | mmm, somebody knows a way to add a page to OPAC? |
| 18:24 | I want create just and HTML form | |
| 18:26 | magnuse | have fun #koha |
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| 18:28 | cait | rebooting, will be back |
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| 18:32 | aarkerio | how you debug Koha? |
| 18:32 | I mean in PHP you can do something like die(var_dump($myArray)); | |
| 18:33 | to see what is in $myArray | |
| 18:33 | how can I do that in koha? | |
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| 18:35 | aarkerio | or even better, how can I see Perl erros messages? |
| 18:35 | Apache log? | |
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| 18:40 | cait | back |
| 18:40 | oleonard | aarkerio: Koha error log. There should be one for the staff client and one for the OPAC |
| 18:41 | chris_n | can someone confirm that a "Category Code" limited search in cgi-bin/koha/patroncards/members-search.pl does *not* work? |
| 18:41 | cait | hm |
| 18:41 | guessing here | |
| 18:41 | chris_n | in current master, that is |
| 18:41 | cait | but I notiyed a while back it wants the code instead of the description |
| 18:41 | could this be a possible reason? | |
| 18:42 | chris_n | well, it does not work here with the code |
| 18:42 | * chris_n | has a fix, but just wants to be sure he is not seeing bug ghosts |
| 18:42 | cait | hm |
| 18:42 | chris_n | or ghost bugs or some sort |
| 18:42 | cait | give me a minute |
| 18:42 | oleonard | It doesn't work for me chris_n. Does your fix add a category drop-down? |
| 18:43 | cait | ah owen was faster |
| 18:43 | * cait | has no mouse and is a bit slow today |
| 18:43 | chris_n | oleonard: no, it just fixes the broken search code on the back end |
| 18:43 | which would not work even if it had a drop-down | |
| 18:43 | cait | a drop down would be nice |
| 18:43 | oleonard | Ah, wait, let me check one more thing |
| 18:43 | chris_n | check using an actual code |
| 18:44 | observe case | |
| 18:44 | oleonard | That was my problem. It's case-sensitive. With the proper case it works. |
| 18:45 | chris_n | ok |
| 18:46 | * chris_n | hates localized bugs >:-( |
| 18:47 | oleonard | aarkerio: Still around? |
| 18:48 | aarkerio | yea!! |
| 18:48 | oleonard | Did you find your error logs? |
| 18:49 | aarkerio | yes, thanks, also I am using: die Dumper { this => $this, that_array => \@that }; |
| 18:49 | oleonard | Good, I was just going to ask if you tried Dumper |
| 18:51 | aarkerio | thanks again, BTW if I created a variable in "Local Use" how can I get in a koha page.pl ? |
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| 18:53 | aarkerio | page.pl?p=page_test |
| 18:53 | ? | |
| 19:00 | cait | no |
| 19:00 | you have to put it n th eperl code | |
| 19:01 | like other sysprefs | |
| 19:01 | and pass it to the template | |
| 19:01 | aarkerio | I typed: |
| 19:01 | [% IF ( page_test ) %]<div id="opacmainuserblock" class="container">[% page_test %]</div> [% END %] | |
| 19:03 | I am following this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS | |
| 19:04 | cait | you can use paste.koha-community.org for pasting |
| 19:04 | it's easy and will be easier to read | |
| 19:05 | oh | |
| 19:05 | oleonard | That's just the template aarkerio. Like cait says, you have to have the Perl script pass the variable to the template. |
| 19:05 | cait | I haven't tried that yet |
| 19:05 | the koha as a cms thing | |
| 19:06 | oleonard | cait: The patch for opac-detail.tt doesn't apply for me |
| 19:06 | "fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8" | |
| 19:06 | pastebot | "aarkerio" at 201.141.215.122 pasted "Add HTML page to Koha" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
| 19:07 | cait | hmm |
| 19:07 | weird | |
| 19:07 | I will rebase | |
| 19:07 | working on serials right now | |
| 19:07 | almost done | |
| 19:07 | aarkerio: looking at the wiki page - it needs some changes for our new templating system I think | |
| 19:08 | oleonard: that's the error you get? | |
| 19:08 | aarkerio | http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
| 19:08 | cait | weird |
| 19:08 | oleonard | That's the error I get when I try to apply the patch |
| 19:08 | cait | ok, still opac-detail? |
| 19:09 | paulhad that too with one of my patches | |
| 19:09 | but I am not sure where it's coming from | |
| 19:09 | I always do the same things | |
| 19:09 | on the same laptop | |
| 19:09 | and some work and others not :( | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | cait: I think it's just a problem with git am and that patch. git apply works. Looks like there's a duplicate "Content-Type" header in the patch itself. |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | dumb question of the day... borrower extended attributes = what |
| 19:11 | nengard | these are custom fields for patrons |
| 19:11 | cait | aarkerio: one obvious thing you have to change is: pages.tmpl to pages.tt |
| 19:11 | nengard | so you can create a field call driver's license for example |
| 19:11 | and fill that in with a value | |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | so they are defined in the authorized values |
| 19:11 | which is what I was really asking | |
| 19:11 | nengard | no |
| 19:11 | oleonard | they can be, but don't have to be |
| 19:11 | * wizzyrea | mutters |
| 19:11 | nengard | they're defined in the extendended patron attributes section |
| 19:11 | in admin | |
| 19:11 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ronattributetypes | |
| 19:12 | if that helps | |
| 19:12 | lots of libraries use them for custom values | |
| 19:12 | and because they - unlike the sort fields - are searchable | |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | interesting. we only use authorized values for that. |
| 19:12 | oleonard | Oh, she totally just RTFMed you, did you see that? ;) |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | I totally did. |
| 19:13 | nengard | i didn't mean it that way!!!! |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 19:13 | nengard | I just like seeing images and that page will show you where to go and how it's set up |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | the feature is pretty helpful in that regard. |
| 19:13 | cait | wizzyrea: the additinal borrower fields you can configure under admin > patron attributes |
| 19:13 | oleonard: not sure where it's getting this form, I checked my git variables | |
| 19:13 | hmmmmm | |
| 19:13 | nengard | wizzyrea yes, very helpful |
| 19:14 | cait | can you sign-off? will try to investigate later |
| 19:14 | I am on a train right now (that is already 150 minutes late...) and have no mouse and a very slow internet connection | |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | I just added a patron attribute that asks "is the patron a cat" |
| 19:14 | nengard | HA |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | I crack me up. |
| 19:14 | nengard | i should use that one for my patrons - since my dogs are patrons |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | soooooo I guess if you use authorized values and not this system, the results are not searchable? |
| 19:15 | oleonard | I have a repeatable one one in my test system for recording the names of all the patron's pets. |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 19:15 | cait | wizzyrea: it's also nice because you can add unique fields |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | i love you guys |
| 19:15 | chris_n | nengard: got the book, btw; looks nice |
| 19:15 | cait | and you can match against these when doing patron imports :) |
| 19:15 | nengard | oh good |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | right |
| 19:16 | cait | we have student numbers in there |
| 19:16 | * wizzyrea | idly wonders if libsysguy was aware of all of that |
| 19:16 | nengard | wizzyrea - i think you can use an authorized value in an attribute and have it searchable |
| 19:16 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Yes, but you can set up authorized values to be used in patron attributes if you want defined choices |
| 19:16 | nengard | i'd need to test |
| 19:16 | cait | if we haven't told him probably not? |
| 19:16 | it's not easy to guess that you can do that | |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | i'm just curious because I'm pretty sure NEKLS isn't using the extended attributes |
| 19:16 | nengard | wizzyrea i did train libsysguy to use them |
| 19:17 | what he remembers after 3 days of me throwing info at him ... who knows :) | |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | as our setup predates the feature |
| 19:17 | oleonard | The only problem with searching extended attributes with authorized values is that you have to use the code, not the description |
| 19:17 | nengard | ooo - that makes sense |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | well he was doing something with markiing patrons as active/inactive every night |
| 19:17 | chris_n | wizzyrea: "predates" == "prehistoric"? ;-) |
| 19:17 | cait | :) |
| 19:17 | I think if oyu use authorized values you perhaps have to search for the code instead of the description - but not quite sure | |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | no, it's up to date, but it's like putting a new body on the chassis of a model T - the basis from whence we came (and the settings/setup thereof) may not take advantage of all that is available on our new body |
| 19:19 | simply because when we set it up, that wasn't an option. | |
| 19:19 | nengard | you know i said that today while teaching wordpress |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | (and it's working so why fix it) |
| 19:19 | cait | oh, oleonard already said it |
| 19:19 | nengard | i don't use tags on my site cause they weren't there when i started |
| 19:20 | cait | irc lagged |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | yea, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about |
| 19:20 | (plus, for me, one level of taxonomy is quite enough for wp posts, tyvm) | |
| 19:20 | oleonard | It's the same reason we don't use Koha's email notices for holds. We already had a workflow in place. Now I'm afraid to switch because I don't know if it will work the same. |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | this is probably a limitation of my creativity |
| 19:26 | cait | never change a running system without good reason |
| 19:27 | does someone know how to access serial-issues-full.tt from staff? | |
| 19:27 | I am not sure which page that i | |
| 19:27 | s | |
| 19:27 | and haven't found it yet clikcing my way through the serials module :( | |
| 19:28 | * oleonard | does the same hunt every time he works on serials templates |
| 19:29 | oleonard | It's called by serial-issues.pl under certain conditions |
| 19:29 | rangi | grep is ur friend |
| 19:29 | oleonard | if ($selectview eq "full"){ |
| 19:29 | * oleonard | uses grep for dummies, also known as his text editor's find in files search |
| 19:30 | rangi | grep -r "serial-issues-full" * |
| 19:30 | will tell u what files its referenced by | |
| 19:30 | aarkerio | hi! If I created a new preference in Home › Administration › System Preferences > Local Use |
| 19:30 | how can I get these preference value? | |
| 19:32 | rangi | isn't cait on holiday?????? |
| 19:34 | aarkerio | my $var = C4::Context->preference('prefrence_name'); ?? |
| 19:34 | cait | good morning to you rangi |
| 19:34 | rangi | yes aakerio |
| 19:35 | cait | aarkerio: did you make the change I suggested? |
| 19:35 | rangi | then you have to set in the template |
| 19:35 | aarkerio | mmm, perfect!!, thanx!! |
| 19:36 | cait | rangi: she is :) |
| 19:36 | rangi | $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var; |
| 19:36 | is the way to do it | |
| 19:37 | not the old param way, over time we will kill the instances of that | |
| 19:41 | 2 koha users speaking at the symposium today, should be good | |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | more symposium today? |
| 19:42 | fun fun! | |
| 19:42 | rangi | yep |
| 19:44 | Oak | good night dear friends... *hugs* |
| 19:46 | aarkerio | why "". in this code: |
| 19:46 | page_test => "". C4::Context->preference($page), | |
| 19:46 | ?? | |
| 19:46 | rangi | thats the old param method, dont do it that way :) |
| 19:47 | aarkerio | so just: |
| 19:47 | page_test => C4::Context->preference($page), | |
| 19:47 | is ok= | |
| 19:47 | ? | |
| 19:47 | rangi | no |
| 19:47 | see what I wrote before | |
| 19:48 | aarkerio | but I see this is the current Koha way in opac-main.pl: koha_news => $all_koha_news |
| 19:48 | rangi | ? |
| 19:48 | cait | we can work on that when the translation issues are resolved ;) |
| 19:48 | :) | |
| 19:48 | hm | |
| 19:48 | rangi | thats the old way |
| 19:48 | cait | I treid the grep |
| 19:48 | but it found a lot of lines from th epo file and was totally unreadable | |
| 19:48 | and sorry for the typos.. | |
| 19:49 | aarkerio | so, where can I find the API new way? |
| 19:49 | rangi | I wrote it just above |
| 19:50 | scroll back | |
| 19:51 | cait | oleonard: I still don't see how to get there hm |
| 19:52 | rangi | param is an html::template method, we are faking it with template::toolkit, but transitioning away from it |
| 19:53 | ok my bus stop bbl | |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | aarkerio: in case you don't want to scroll up |
| 19:53 | $template->{VARS}->{'name'}=$var; | |
| 19:54 | (it's rangi's example) | |
| 19:56 | aarkerio | oh! thanks, I didn't realize that lie was for me, so, $template->param() is deprecated ? |
| 19:56 | line | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Actually cait I think that template might be unused, now that I look further |
| 19:57 | cait: I don't see any links to serial-issues.pl in the template except from serial-issues.tt and serial-issues-full.tt | |
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| 20:00 | cait | h |
| 20:00 | m | |
| 20:01 | that might be an explanation | |
| 20:01 | I tried looking at the template code but the breadcrumbs and title seemed not very familiar | |
| 20:04 | aarkerio | can I pass an array ?? $template->{VARS}->{'array'}=@array; ?? |
| 20:12 | luisb joined #koha | |
| 20:16 | rangi | pass an arrayref |
| 20:16 | \@array | |
| 20:25 | aarkerio | coo, If I want to create the Class use C4::MyDBFunctions, where should I put the perl file? |
| 20:26 | $KOHA_HOME/lib/C4 right? | |
| 20:32 | hankbank joined #koha | |
| 20:33 | aarkerio | are you using some ORM to get database records? |
| 20:35 | like http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class/ | |
| 20:36 | cait | no, we are not using that at the moment |
| 20:36 | I think you can find examples for how to query the db in the C4 modules | |
| 20:38 | aarkerio | Koha is pretty full featured and stable you are doing a great work guys |
| 20:39 | rangi | if you are writing a brand new module |
| 20:39 | you can put it in Koha:: | |
| 20:40 | or C4:: eventually everything will be in Koha:: as its cleaned | |
| 20:46 | nengard left #koha | |
| 20:48 | cait | lol |
| 20:48 | "train is now 362 minuts late, we apologize ..." | |
| 20:49 | rangi | 6 hours! |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | jeez! |
| 20:50 | rangi | there goes my theory of german efficiency |
| 20:55 | cait | hm doing the math this isn't right |
| 20:55 | 162 | |
| 20:55 | still too much | |
| 20:55 | only 162, I misunderstood I think | |
| 20:55 | and there was a thunderstorm or something and we had to make a detour | |
| 21:03 | rangi | ? |
| 21:03 | lightning hit the tracks? | |
| 21:06 | cait | no idea |
| 21:06 | they didn't tell us | |
| 21:06 | or a tree on the rails perhaps | |
| 21:06 | * cait | good the last package of cookies at the bistro - yay |
| 21:06 | cait | s/good/got |
| 21:06 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:13 | aarkerio++ #updating the wiki :) | |
| 21:13 | jcamins_away | I have a very dumb question. |
| 21:13 | rangi | 12 |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | a watched query never finishes. |
| 21:13 | rangi | theres a dumb answer |
| 21:14 | jcamins_away | I am supposed to cut the netting off of the flower, right? |
| 21:14 | It's something that has lots of petals, but there's a net around it so I'm not sure what exactly it is, or I'd Google it. ;) | |
| 21:14 | aarkerio | rangi, yey! I used the new way!! $template->{VARS}-> |
| 21:15 | rangi | :-) |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: probably |
| 21:15 | cait | oleonard++ for signing off |
| 21:15 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: thanks. |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | i can't imagine it's very pretty with the net on :P |
| 21:16 | jcamins_away | Not really, no. |
| 21:16 | We never had flowers in the house when I was growing up, because we're a family with bad allergies. | |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | is it a daisy looking thing? |
| 21:17 | cait | you could make a photo and post it :) |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 21:17 | jcamins_away | Good idea. |
| 21:18 | rangi | if you take the net off it will escape!!! |
| 21:19 | cait | rofl |
| 21:23 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: cait: http://www.flickr.com/photos/5[…]72/in/photostream |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | yea, take the net off |
| 21:23 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | it's a chrysanthemum |
| 21:24 | moodaepo | @quote |
| 21:24 | huginn | moodaepo: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | or something like it |
| 21:24 | moodaepo | @quote help |
| 21:24 | huginn | moodaepo: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 21:24 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #72: "<nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client" (added by jdavidb at 12:28 PM, April 29, 2010) |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 21:24 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010) |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | @quote randomc |
| 21:25 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 21:25 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 08:35 AM, October 30, 2009) |
| 21:25 | moodaepo | @quote add <wizzyrea> a watched query never finishes. |
| 21:25 | huginn | moodaepo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 21:25 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 21:26 | moodaepo | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | it's true though! |
| 21:26 | moodaepo | Most certainly |
| 21:26 | rangi | @quote get 8 |
| 21:26 | huginn | rangi: Quote #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to koha is much harder for libraries that are already automated" (added by pianohacker at 05:57 PM, June 19, 2009) |
| 21:26 | rangi | hmmm |
| 21:26 | cait | @roulette |
| 21:26 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 21:26 | cait | hm |
| 21:26 | @wunder berlin | |
| 21:26 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:27 | rangi | what is the one that has how to register |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | @quote get 23 |
| 21:27 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 21:27 | cait | @wunder Berlin, Germany |
| 21:27 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:27 | rangi | ta |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | i always remember that one because it's offset of our favorite one by 100 |
| 21:27 | ;) | |
| 21:28 | @quote get 123 | |
| 21:28 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | seewhatimean |
| 21:29 | rangi | :) |
| 21:29 | * jcamins_away | goes to make dinner and cookies, having successfully navigated the vase-ing of the flowers. |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | is that the vayse or vahse |
| 21:29 | moodaepo | @quote add <wizzyrea> a watched query never finishes. |
| 21:29 | huginn | moodaepo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 21:30 | jcamins_away | I pronounce it both ways. |
| 21:30 | :P | |
| 21:30 | * moodaepo | gives up |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:30 | i suspect ay is the midwestern pronunciation | |
| 21:30 | and ah is the coastal pronunciation | |
| 21:30 | moodaepo | I thought 'ay' was just non east coast american |
| 21:32 | cait | :) |
| 21:32 | @wunder berlin, deutschland | |
| 21:32 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | @quote add <wizzyrea> a watched query never finishes. |
| 21:33 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #147 added. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | wow very laggy today |
| 21:33 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:37 | cait | so not only me? |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | nope |
| 21:37 | rangi | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 21:37 | huginn | rangi: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 21:38 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 34.6°C (4:38 PM CDT on August 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT this evening... |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | @wunder berlin |
| 21:38 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | wtf |
| 21:41 | rangi | @wunder Schonefeld, Germany |
| 21:41 | when all else fails, try the airport | |
| 21:41 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 19.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:42 | cait | thx rangi |
| 21:42 | sounds... invitin | |
| 21:42 | g | |
| 21:42 | rangi | heh |
| 21:46 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 21:47 | rangi | how far away from berlin are you now cait ? |
| 21:49 | Oak | huh, 2:52 am. i guess i should go back to sleep. good night again |
| 22:44 | rangi | wow |
| 22:44 | steve jobs resigned | |
| 22:45 | talljoy | oh my |
| 22:45 | jcamins_away | Really? Wow. |
| 22:45 | My ISP is trying to charge me an extra $5/month. | |
| 22:45 | rangi | for? |
| 22:45 | jcamins_away | Fun, I think. |
| 22:46 | rangi | heh |
| 22:46 | jcamins_away | They just increased the price $5. |
| 22:46 | rangi | stink |
| 22:47 | talljoy | what triggers the 'Available' status on an item record in the OPAC? |
| 22:47 | jcamins_away | Looks like it's time to call and demand a discount. |
| 22:47 | Ah, it's been a year since my last complaint. | |
| 22:48 | That's why. | |
| 22:48 | talljoy: you don't want to know. | |
| 22:48 | talljoy | tell me. |
| 22:48 | jcamins_away | And with that encouraging thought, I think I'd better go get the cookies and set out dinner. |
| 22:49 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 22:49 | talljoy | anyone else care to enlighten me as to the "available" status on an item record? |
| 22:50 | mtj | talljoy, a successful zebra update, i think |
| 22:50 | rangi | its a big combo of things |
| 22:50 | is it available for loan, is it not lost, is it not withdrawn, is it not out | |
| 22:50 | talljoy | i figured, since there wasn't a 'available' field |
| 22:50 | i have an item that is checked out but shows as available | |
| 22:51 | rangi | right |
| 22:51 | how often do your zebra updates run? | |
| 22:52 | mtj | the seach-results availablity is pulled from zebra, not sure about the details page |
| 22:52 | rangi | details should be from db |
| 22:52 | mtj | yeah, prolly a little zebra lag, there.... |
| 22:52 | rangi | is it diff on search results and detail page talljoy ? |
| 22:52 | mtj | rangi: yeah, i agree |
| 22:53 | talljoy | i'm looking in staff client now. let me check the opac |
| 22:53 | Irma left #koha | |
| 22:54 | talljoy | okay. OPAC shows checked out. But the staff client shows them Checked out but Available |
| 22:54 | rangi | the results and detail pages, should be different in both |
| 22:54 | shouldnt matter if its opac or staff | |
| 22:55 | xslt? | |
| 22:55 | wahanui | hmmm... xslt is broken for staff display in 3.0.x. |
| 22:55 | rangi | wahanui: forget xslt |
| 22:55 | wahanui | rangi: I forgot xslt |
| 22:56 | talljoy | staff client search screen shows 6 available but the detail page shows them checked out but still Available |
| 22:57 | mtj | talljoy: hmmm, i would force a partial , then full zebra rebuild now |
| 22:58 | i guess its on a prod box... | |
| 22:58 | talljoy | i'll recommend that to start. thanks. |
| 22:58 | mtj | and 3.2, or 3.4? |
| 22:58 | talljoy | 3.4 |
| 22:58 | mtj | ah ok... nice ;) |
| 22:59 | rangi | id check if you have xslt switched on or not too, and see if that makes a diff |
| 23:02 | ive found weirdness with availability and xslt before | |
| 23:04 | mtj | rangi: aah, i didnt know xslt touched the 'items' bit of the page |
| 23:04 | good info for me | |
| 23:06 | rangi | it certainly does on the results page |
| 23:06 | not sure about detail | |
| 23:10 | eythian | http://article.gmane.org/gmane[…]pache.announce/58 <-- happy apache upgrade day! |
| 23:11 | talljoy: there are two fields, you get "out but available" if they disagree | |
| 23:11 | talljoy: one is on the item record, the other is in the issues table | |
| 23:12 | the 'onloan' field | |
| 23:12 | this: update items,issues set items.onloan=issues.issuedate where issues.itemnumber=items.itemnumber; | |
| 23:12 | followed by a full zebra rebuild will ensure they're in sync (it assumes the issues table is the correct one) | |
| 23:17 | talljoy | what about the datelastborrowed field in items? |
| 23:17 | eythian | if you want to, you could extract that from old_issues. I don't usually bother. |
| 23:18 | talljoy | datelastborrowed wouldn't affect the availability status then. |
| 23:18 | eythian | no |
| 23:18 | talljoy | let me check the issues table. |
| 23:21 | bingo....we have a winner. it's the onloan field in items that is set to NULL not a date. | |
| 23:21 | eythian++ | |
| 23:22 | immediately fixed that problem. easy peasy. thanks! | |
| 23:23 | mtj | eythian: thanks for the apache heads-up :) |
| 23:23 | eythian | no problem |
| 23:23 | cool | |
| 23:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 392 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 6 j 14 h ago) |
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