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| 00:11 | pinklady joined #koha | |
| 00:13 | mtj | eythian: yep, i agree - theres no db differences between our versions |
| 00:13 | eythian | actually, I just changed it by removing the ratingid column and setting borrowernumber and biblionumber as a composite key, but that's a fairly small change. |
| 00:14 | mtj | so your clients wont have any problems with either version, in 3.6 |
| 00:14 | meliameggs left #koha | |
| 00:14 | eythian | yeah |
| 00:19 | mtj | aah, composite-key is a new trick for me |
| 00:20 | does that make basic-level sql queries trickier? | |
| 00:20 | eythian | no, it just ensures that the combination of borrower and biblio is unique and indexed as a pair. |
| 00:20 | which, given most of the searches are like that, is a bit faster. | |
| 00:23 | mtj | ha, im sold :) it sounds like a good way to go |
| 00:40 | eythian | mtj: sent up now. |
| 00:43 | hmm, that seems to be missing a file | |
| 00:45 | there we go | |
| 00:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668> |
| 01:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:39 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.4 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
| 01:41 | chris_n | 85 bugs squashed in 3.4.4; nice work koha peps :-) |
| 01:41 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 01:42 | rangi | w00t! |
| 01:42 | chris_n++ | |
| 01:43 | chris_n | 217 bugs squashed since 3.4.0 |
| 01:44 | for interested parties: http://tinyurl.com/3asw2ku | |
| 01:46 | that's available as a bugzilla search titled '3.4.x Bugs' | |
| 01:46 | now off to bed | |
| 01:48 | rangi | cool thanks |
| 02:07 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 02:07 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:09 | rangi | hiya druthb |
| 02:09 | druthb | hi, rangi! :D *hug* |
| 02:09 | rangi | where are you at now? |
| 02:10 | druthb | Indianapolis, IN. Spent the day working at larryb's place. |
| 02:11 | rangi | ahhh cool |
| 02:12 | druthb | That's the plan for tomorrow, too. :) Lindsey likes it over there; plays with the cats and goofs off a lot. |
| 02:12 | rangi | sweet |
| 02:13 | druthb | This campground is not as shady as the others we have been at....the tent might well be uninhabitable mid-day. |
| 02:14 | rangi | ahhh, yeah not being in the tent is a good idea :) |
| 02:16 | druthb | Next week, we're in Sioux Falls, SD, then Lawrence, KS (wizzyrea country), then Tennessee, then North Carolina, and back to DC for doc visits and a presentation to the national organization for GLBT science and tech professionals Chesapeake chapter. |
| 02:16 | rangi | awesome |
| 02:17 | druthb | Probably back to Bird-In-Hand for a couple of weeks, then to Philly, where Lindsey will stay while I'm in India. |
| 02:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #38: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/38/ |
| 02:17 | * f.demians: 3.4.4 Translation Update | |
| 02:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.04.000 | |
| 02:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.04.000 | |
| 02:18 | druthb | might sneak up to NYC for a few days right before India, to see mr & mrs jcamins. :) |
| 02:18 | rangi | ahh good idea |
| 02:31 | ketchup left #koha | |
| 02:59 | rangi | http://blog.bluefeet.net/2011/[…]ely-bind_columns/ |
| 03:02 | eythian | I'd not seen that, nor using \my |
| 03:02 | rangi | yeah me iehter |
| 03:03 | chilts | heh, I'd like to see that being used when you're pulling 10 or more columns out :) |
| 03:04 | eythian | naw, then you'd use fetchrow_hashref({}) |
| 03:05 | chilts | I pretty much use that exclusively (either on it's own, or in conjunction with a selectall_arrayref with no slice) |
| 03:06 | rangi | i can see doing that in a few places tho |
| 03:06 | when you are just fetching a biblionumber or something | |
| 03:07 | chilts | seems like typing three lines in in exchange for a shorter variable name doesn't seem worth it |
| 03:07 | though it does get extra checking I suppose | |
| 03:08 | eythian | also faster |
| 03:08 | rangi | yup |
| 03:08 | eythian | so for doing huge dumps it may be worthwhile too |
| 03:08 | rangi | and typing less has never been a good argument imho ;) |
| 03:08 | eythian | it's only one more line, anyway |
| 03:08 | chilts | true |
| 03:09 | I think faster also hasn't been a good argument either :) | |
| 03:09 | rangi | :) |
| 03:09 | eythian | it is when doing rebuild_zebra :) |
| 03:09 | * chilts | can't be arsed anymore |
| 03:10 | rangi | hehe |
| 03:10 | eythian | though, for small to medium size things, it'll be more readable. |
| 03:11 | chilts | if you want faster for getting a few columns in a tight loop, then a selectall will be faster than fetching one row at a time ... even if it saves when making a variable or two, it wins since you do less db round-trips :) |
| 03:11 | eythian | good point |
| 03:12 | chilts | (probably, but who knows until you profile) :) |
| 03:12 | heh | |
| 03:12 | rangi | actually that might be a win for rebuild_zebra right there |
| 03:12 | or it might eat all the ram and we die | |
| 03:12 | :) | |
| 03:12 | chilts | heh |
| 03:12 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3ff389103ce8f603> / Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e84bca58a9921664c> |
| 03:13 | chilts | also, behind the scenes, sometimes DBI may get a number of rows at the same time, which I guess obscures what it's really doing |
| 03:13 | rangi | tis true |
| 03:13 | chilts | it may get a lot and therefore wouldn't make much difference anyway, but it'll be worth trying |
| 03:13 | eythian | yeah, I think it just loads smarter |
| 03:13 | chilts | it's a minefield :) |
| 03:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 389 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 17 h ago) |
| 03:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed065eebb0741df22> |
| 03:55 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 03:55 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 03:56 | rangi | hi Brooke |
| 03:56 | Brooke | :) |
| 03:56 | oak++ | |
| 04:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6540' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67b8670282da3abbc> / Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45672c42a5359c5a4> |
| 04:05 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #389: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/389/ |
| 04:05 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken | |
| 04:05 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions | |
| 04:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW , can't see invoice content |
| 04:05 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned |
| 04:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Table sorter for receiving acquisitions |
| 04:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned | |
| 04:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 390 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 4 j 18 h ago) |
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| 04:08 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 04:09 | your ears must be burning. | |
| 04:11 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 04:11 | Judit | hello |
| 04:11 | jransom | hiy |
| 04:12 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:12 | Brooke | hey Oak |
| 04:12 | Oak | hey Brooke :^) |
| 04:12 | ♥ #koha | |
| 04:12 | rangi | hi Oak |
| 04:13 | Oak | Hello rangi :) |
| 04:13 | Judit | can i have a question? (just because i know how much rangi loves this line) |
| 04:14 | so in Serial, when you receive it, and want to add an item | |
| 04:15 | sometimes you have the link Click to add item sometimes you dont | |
| 04:15 | blabla.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-edit.pl?subscriptionid=6&serstatus=1,3 | |
| 04:16 | so what do i need to do to have the Click to add item link | |
| 04:16 | all the time | |
| 04:17 | rangi | make sure your subscription is set up to add items |
| 04:17 | Judit | create an item record when receiving this serial |
| 04:17 | rangi | yep |
| 04:18 | Judit | is highlited |
| 04:18 | rangi | then no idea |
| 04:18 | Brooke | brb |
| 04:18 | Judit | http://koha-3.2demo-staff.ossl[…]=48&serstatus=1,3 |
| 04:18 | a demo site | |
| 04:18 | rangi | thats old 3.2 |
| 04:18 | Judit | :) i so knew it |
| 04:18 | but come on | |
| 04:19 | i have the same problem in our 3.4 | |
| 04:19 | rangi | then you'll have to figure it out then :) |
| 04:19 | Judit | okay |
| 04:20 | let me ask it again | |
| 04:20 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 04:20 | Judit | if i choose create an item record when receiving this serial on the edit derial page |
| 04:20 | rangi | no i mean i dont know |
| 04:20 | you will have to figure it out | |
| 04:20 | Judit | what is the default |
| 04:20 | wahanui | the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns |
| 04:22 | Brooke | oh that's just scary |
| 04:22 | me olde long range plan is still good XD | |
| 04:23 | Oak | :) |
| 04:26 | chilts | interesting thoughts -> http://librariansmatter.com/bl[…]g-coding-to-kids/ |
| 04:26 | not sure I'd agree with the choice of languages though :) | |
| 04:26 | Perl ftw | |
| 04:26 | eythian | Not for teaching |
| 04:26 | Brooke | OMG |
| 04:26 | that is like what I need | |
| 04:27 | eythian | Logo, Scratch, then Smalltalk (in the Squeak environment) |
| 04:27 | chilts | heh |
| 04:27 | where's the fun in that? | |
| 04:27 | Brooke | if I can't learn what a 6 year old can, there's no excuse. |
| 04:28 | eythian | chilts: squeak is brilliant, you can inspect and modify any element of the running system |
| 04:28 | Brooke | mmm firebug for a computer :) |
| 04:29 | eythian | and if it's a GUI element you want to to inspect, you do so by right-clicking on it (or something like that) |
| 04:29 | it's really good for doing f | |
| 04:29 | fast, effective UIs | |
| 04:29 | * Brooke | drools. |
| 04:29 | eythian | (not for end-user software, but prototyping or messing about) |
| 04:30 | If I were teaching someone, it'd be where I'd consider starting. | |
| 04:30 | Brooke | eythian++ |
| 04:30 | eythian | also, made as a collaboration between Disney and Apple many years ago. |
| 04:31 | Oak | eythian++ |
| 04:32 | chilts left #koha | |
| 04:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #390: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/390/ |
| 04:49 | magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile | |
| 04:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create |
| 05:04 | Brooke | http://www.mlkmemorial.org/ |
| 05:06 | Nabonita joined #koha | |
| 05:06 | Brooke | Hi |
| 05:08 | Nabonita | hi |
| 05:09 | i'm looking for koha developers whom we can hire to get some customizations | |
| 05:10 | eythian | Nabonita: a good place to start for that information is here: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
| 05:11 | rangi | speaking of which i need to get wizzyrea to update our listing |
| 05:23 | Nabonita | Thanks for the link. I contacted several companies from the paid support list but not got any response |
| 05:30 | jransom | 14 minutes is probably a bit quick to be expecting response :D |
| 05:33 | Brooke | check the RFCs on the wiki, too |
| 05:33 | there might be work in progress | |
| 05:33 | or specced out and waiting for big bags of money | |
| 05:52 | rangi | I can confirm catalyst got no email |
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| 06:11 | cait | morning #koha |
| 06:16 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:17 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 11.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:17 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:17 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:18 | magnuse | that sounds pleasant |
| 06:22 | hdl | hi |
| 06:22 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:22 | huginn | hdl: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 24.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:22 | hdl | well seems a little under the reality |
| 06:23 | cait | magnuse: still early, will probably be quite hot today |
| 06:23 | hi hdl | |
| 06:24 | magnuse | kia ora hdl |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 06:44 | magnuse | bonjour biblibre |
| 06:46 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
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| 06:50 | julian | hello! |
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| 07:17 | rangi | @wunder Wellington nz |
| 07:17 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 | magnuse | sounds familiar... |
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| 07:26 | raj100 | hi |
| 07:26 | magnuse | hiya raj100 |
| 07:26 | raj100 | hi magnuse |
| 07:27 | i have an issue with koha search can someone help me to resolve it | |
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| 07:29 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:30 | magnuse | raj100: no guarantees, but describe your problem and we will see... |
| 07:30 | raj100 | ? |
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| 07:30 | raj100 | thanks magnuse4 |
| 07:31 | i will describe it now | |
| 07:33 | 2011] opac-search.pl: We called GetMarcBiblio with a biblionumber that doesn't e xist biblionumber= at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1092., referer: http ://115.119.146.168:8083/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a | |
| 07:34 | this is the koha koha-opac-error_log | |
| 07:35 | and i am using zebra indexing. indexing is done and the search results were showing the count with out content | |
| 07:36 | rangi | have you been deleting biblios? |
| 07:36 | raj100 | no i have not |
| 07:38 | rangi | normally that error occurs if an item/biblio has been deleted but is still in the index |
| 07:38 | how many biblio do you have in your db? | |
| 07:38 | raj100 | ok i will check and tell you now |
| 07:38 | rangi | first thing i would try is |
| 07:39 | run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r -v -x b | |
| 07:39 | sorry -r -v -x -b | |
| 07:39 | to do a full reindex and see if that fixes it | |
| 07:39 | (make sure you do that as the user that runs zebrasrv) | |
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| 07:42 | francharb | morning everyone |
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| 07:43 | raj100 | i will do and get back to you rangi |
| 07:43 | rangi | cool, good luck |
| 07:43 | http://infomalias.wordpress.co[…]gaining-momentum/ | |
| 07:44 | magnuse | maldives? cool! |
| 07:45 | rangi | yup |
| 07:45 | magnuse | ooh, nice place for a kohacon... ;-) |
| 07:45 | rangi | hehe yes |
| 07:46 | kf | :) |
| 07:48 | magnuse | rangi: did you map mu email address to "libriotech" in you stats? if so: way cool! :-) |
| 07:48 | s/mu/my/ | |
| 07:59 | kf | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:59 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.5°C (9:58 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). |
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| 08:03 | rangi | magnuse: yup i did |
| 08:04 | kf | he also merged kf and cait for the irc statistics... |
| 08:04 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:06 | thanks rangi | |
| 08:06 | rangi | np |
| 08:13 | http://www.nzlla.org.nz/docume[…]vision%203%20.pdf <-- what im doing tomorrow and thursday | |
| 08:26 | magnuse | no koha on the programme? doing sales pitch? |
| 08:30 | rangi | on thursday |
| 08:30 | the automation panel, 2 of the 3 ppl are koha users | |
| 08:30 | (treasury and opus) | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | ah, cool! |
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| 08:45 | kf | :) |
| 09:13 | rangi | Peak for #koha 58 (Tue Aug 23 01:54:31 2011) |
| 09:13 | seems our busiest time is 2am nz time | |
| 09:20 | kf | hm |
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| 10:21 | hdl | rangi: looks quite usual to say hello to america. |
| 10:24 | rangi | yep, that makes sense |
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| 11:28 | raj478 | hi rangi |
| 11:29 | your suggestion worked for me | |
| 11:29 | thanks a lot..... | |
| 11:50 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6707] Add alternative, textual MARC editor <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6707> |
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| 11:55 | druthb | o |
| 11:55 | o/ | |
| 11:55 | \o | |
| 11:55 | \o/ | |
| 11:56 | hdl | hi |
| 11:56 | druthb | hi, hdl. :) |
| 11:56 | magnuse | o/ |
| 11:57 | The Story of Linux: Commemorating 20 Years of the Linux Operating System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]&feature=youtu.be | |
| 11:58 | Agent_Dani | \o |
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| 12:45 | druthb | g'morning, Joy! :D |
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| 12:46 | Agent_Dani | Hi talljoy and NateC |
| 12:47 | NateC | hello! |
| 12:48 | talljoy | hi |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 12:56 | congrats for this 3.4.4 relase | |
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| 13:21 | rhck | oops |
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| 13:28 | slef | wizzyrea: you got George Michaeled at lunch yesterday? Buh? A policeman followed you into the toilet? You were driving drugged? You were singing increasingly explicit pop songs? |
| 13:28 | hi all :) | |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Someone woke her up before they went-went? |
| 13:29 | magnuse | kia or slef |
| 13:30 | rhcl | is this something I need to drive down there and check on? |
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| 13:31 | magnuse | kia ora mtj |
| 13:44 | wow, 75 bugs need signoff! | |
| 13:45 | next gbsd? | |
| 13:45 | wahanui | next gbsd is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 13:47 | oleonard | Wow, 92 bugs with "Does not apply" or "Failed QA" status... |
| 13:48 | wizzyrea | slef: thanks for the morning giggle |
| 13:49 | more like, exposed to george michael songs against my will | |
| 13:49 | I was instantly transported to the 80's | |
| 13:49 | and I'm not sure I liked it | |
| 13:52 | magnuse | ah, so time travel ain't all what it's cranked up to be? |
| 13:53 | "yes, we invented time travel, but you can only go to 1983" | |
| 13:53 | * wizzyrea | shudders |
| 13:54 | kf | hey |
| 13:54 | 1983 was not that bad | |
| 13:54 | I think... | |
| 13:55 | magnuse | kf: i'm guessing you don't remember all of it? |
| 13:56 | kf | better say I remember none of it... |
| 13:56 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:56 | jwagner | I was too busy helping to organize the '83 Worldcon to notice (World Science Fiction Convention, that is) |
| 13:56 | wizzyrea | I think I remember a trip to disneyland... |
| 13:58 | kf | :) |
| 13:58 | see, a good year | |
| 13:58 | magnuse | and there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1[…]uld_Turn_to_Be%29 |
| 13:59 | pelletiermaxime | I wasn't even born, so not a good year for me :p |
| 14:00 | * wizzyrea | now feels old. |
| 14:00 | oleonard | 1983 saw the release of Return of the Jedi, so that was a pretty big year for me |
| 14:00 | magnuse | ooh |
| 14:02 | oleonard | For more feeling old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_in_film#Births |
| 14:02 | magnuse | anyone had any sleep-induced revelations re the gamification thingy? |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | have you looked at the wiki today magnus? |
| 14:03 | i added a bunch of stuff after you wandered off with your ice cream :) | |
| 14:03 | magnuse | yeah, i just edited it even... ;-) |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | cool! |
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| 14:03 | magnuse | that was quick |
| 14:03 | kf | :) |
| 14:04 | wizzyrea | I'm a little bit uncomfortable still with letting other patrons put comments (a la facebook) on people's library profile |
| 14:04 | i can't explain why though | |
| 14:05 | magnuse | leaving that out would be fine by me |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | but yea, that brought up another idea |
| 14:06 | which is noted there | |
| 14:06 | magnuse | i'm thinking there is very little chance of the opac taking off as a social network anyway... but then again, there might be settings where it might work, like schools perhaps? |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | which is an OPAC first login tutorial |
| 14:07 | did you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/userinfuser/ | |
| 14:07 | not that we necessarily want to use it | |
| 14:07 | but it might be a good example | |
| 14:07 | on how to go about it | |
| 14:08 | magnuse | no, didn't have time to follow the links yet |
| 14:11 | yeah, looks interesting! | |
| 14:12 | looks like it runs on Google App Engine, and has libraries for accessing the API from different programming languages? | |
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | *nod* I'm not sure that we'd necessarily want to run it alongside koha |
| 14:12 | but since it's GPL we can definitely use some of their ideas in creating our own, if we choose | |
| 14:12 | magnuse | yup |
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| 14:25 | wizzyrea | aside, I think the ability to show something (even an external link) at first login would be cool. |
| 14:25 | magnuse | wizzyrea: you mean the first time ever a patron logs on? |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 14:26 | magnuse | ah, yes that might be cool! |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | of course a generic first login tutorial would be helpful, but the ability to redirect to custom library specific content would be nice too. |
| 14:27 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 14:27 | kf | A help link for a custom toturial in koha's opac would be cool |
| 14:27 | similar to the online help in staff | |
| 14:27 | magnuse | yup |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | you guys have used dropbox right? |
| 14:28 | and you've logged into their web interface? | |
| 14:28 | magnuse | it could be displayed very obviously until the user clicks "do not show this again", perhaps? |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | yea, exactly |
| 14:28 | magnuse | wizzyrea: yeah, a couple times |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | you know how they walk you through a set of steps before they leave you alone? |
| 14:28 | magnuse | they have little boxes pointing at things? |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | I'm thinking of something like that |
| 14:29 | exactly | |
| 14:29 | "Here is your account!" | |
| 14:29 | "Renew your books here" | |
| 14:29 | magnuse | yeah, that's cool! |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | "see your reading history" |
| 14:29 | "contact the library" | |
| 14:29 | etc | |
| 14:29 | kf | perhaps soething like a beginner's mode? |
| 14:29 | magnuse | yeah |
| 14:29 | kf | that can be turned off by the patron |
| 14:30 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | yes, that's the best term I've heard for it |
| 14:30 | kf | and activated by patron category |
| 14:30 | on creation active if you say so for the category | |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 14:30 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | (and an achievement for "completing" it) |
| 14:30 | :P | |
| 14:31 | like dropbox | |
| 14:31 | magnuse | :-= |
| 14:31 | s/:-=/:-)/ | |
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| 14:33 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Beginner_mode |
| 14:34 | kf | it seems a little broken |
| 14:34 | where does beginner mode link link to? | |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | well there's not a lot in that page |
| 14:34 | i'm not sure how it's broken it's working for me | |
| 14:35 | kf | the sidebar is at a odd place for me |
| 14:35 | lots of free space above it | |
| 14:35 | might be something local | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | yea that happens sometimes on this wiki i'm not sure why |
| 14:36 | magnuse | seems to happen when there isn't a category on the page? |
| 14:36 | libsysguy | can anybody tell me the difference between a serial and a subscription |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | there should be a category now |
| 14:38 | magnuse | yep, and it looks good |
| 14:42 | slef | libsysguy: you subscribe to a serial? |
| 14:43 | anyone know why biblioitems.publicationyear wouldn't be linked to 260$c in a marc21 koha? | |
| 14:43 | libsysguy | so it is like Serial -> serialitems |
| 14:43 | then serial ->subscription ->subscriptionhirtosry | |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | http://library.rit.edu/liv/ |
| 14:44 | * magnuse | goes for a walk |
| 14:46 | kf | slef: because we link copyrightdate to that |
| 14:46 | slef: and UNIMARC does publicationyear... or something like that | |
| 14:46 | and don't ask me why | |
| 14:47 | but it was something I ran into when I was testing acquisitions | |
| 14:52 | slef | kf: thanks. I'll look at copyrightdate again |
| 14:54 | kf: nope, we've not got copyrightdate linked to it either. | |
| 14:54 | it's seriously unlinked. :-/ | |
| 15:06 | What's the process for getting a patch pushed to master back to Failed QA? | |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Ask rangi to revert it I think |
| 15:06 | What'd you find? | |
| 15:07 | slef | bug 6277 made koha-conf.xml executable |
| 15:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , CustomLog by default |
| 15:07 | slef | no, koha-httpd.conf |
| 15:07 | it's still executable in master today | |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | d/oh |
| 15:09 | slef | @later tell rangi please could you revert the patch from bug 6277, or chmod -x etc/koha-httpd.conf in master if that's simpler? |
| 15:09 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:20 | aarkerio | hi! where can I handle the "Shelving control number" ? |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | magnus_afk: you have cool friends :) http://findthefuture.nypl.org/#/ |
| 15:26 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:29 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6765] Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6765> |
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| 15:31 | McLean_Library | Hi all... trying to install Koha and running into a couple of dependency problems |
| 15:32 | I'm unable to install CGI::Session::Driver::memcached | |
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| 15:32 | McLean_Library | also Memoize::Memcached |
| 15:33 | are these necessary if I don't intend to use the memcached server? | |
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| 15:37 | kf | slef: hm strange! |
| 15:37 | slef: have you checked the default frameworks? | |
| 15:39 | McLean_Library | sorry, but what do you mean by default frameworks? |
| 15:39 | I believe the issue is related to Cache::Memcached | |
| 15:40 | which is a prerequisite for both of my missing dependencies | |
| 15:40 | kf | McLean_Library: I was talking so slef - sorry for causing confusion |
| 15:40 | McLean_Library | oops! |
| 15:40 | kf | :) |
| 15:40 | and no, I don't think you need it when you don't use the memcache feature | |
| 15:41 | slef | kf: not yet |
| 15:43 | aarkerio | McLean_Library, what cpan say? |
| 15:44 | I mean: $sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached | |
| 15:45 | McLean_Library | Hi -- it fails trying to install the Cache::Memcached prerequisite |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | which is? |
| 15:46 | slef | @wunder weston-super-mare SOMERSET |
| 15:46 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 21.3°C (4:45 PM BST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:46 | McLean_Library | 05_reconnect_timeout.t --> "Expected pause while connecting" |
| 15:47 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 15:47 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3°C (5:43 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | McLean_Library: can you sudo apt-get install memcached? |
| 15:47 | aarkerio | McLean_Library, look in your distro repositories |
| 15:48 | In debian-based: $sudo apt-get install ibcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl | |
| 15:48 | McLean_Library | @wizzyrea: I was able to install memcached using apt-get install memcache |
| 15:48 | huginn | McLean_Library: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:48 | * slef | offers to take those 10 degrees from kf |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | and it's not working? |
| 15:49 | McLean_Library | @aarkerio: I haven't tried that, but will now |
| 15:49 | huginn | McLean_Library: downloading the Perl source |
| 15:49 | aarkerio | or $sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | ^^ is probably a better one |
| 15:49 | aarkerio | sometimes you need restart your webserver |
| 15:50 | oleonard | McLean_Library: You don't need the "@." That's why the bot huginn is complaining. |
| 15:50 | McLean_Library | thanks oleonard... |
| 15:50 | slef | ah, differences between twitter and IRC |
| 15:51 | fewer people on IRC at any one time => less need to mark nicknames | |
| 15:54 | McLean_Library | ok, I apt-got libcache-memcached-perl and restarted apache |
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| 15:55 | McLean_Library | and was then able to cpan the missing modules successfully |
| 15:55 | thanks so much! | |
| 15:55 | wizzyrea | woohoo |
| 15:55 | McLean_Library | now to run the makefile again and see if it's good |
| 15:56 | sweet! | |
| 15:56 | thanks again | |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | :) glad it's working |
| 15:57 | stop by anytime ;) | |
| 15:57 | McLean_Library | will do... maybe sooner than later :) |
| 16:13 | aarkerio | mmm, I can add an item: |
| 16:13 | http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/cg[…]pl?biblionumber=4 | |
| 16:14 | but I can't find it using OPAC search | |
| 16:14 | why? | |
| 16:15 | kf | search faq? |
| 16:15 | wahanui | search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 16:15 | kf | :) |
| 16:15 | can you search at all? | |
| 16:16 | slef | errr, why's the search faq blank? |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea: someone's stolen the faq! | |
| 16:16 | kf | good question |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | oh dear, sec |
| 16:16 | kf | aarkerio: is your zebrasrv running? |
| 16:17 | and have to go - bye all! | |
| 16:17 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:17 | slef | bye kf and enjoy! |
| 16:18 | @later tell cait solved - thanks for listening! | |
| 16:18 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:22 | * slef | thinks a grue has got aarkerio |
| 16:25 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6766] Template variable scope errors in holds template <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6766> |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | hrmph. apparently a plugin update at the faq categories. |
| 16:35 | * wizzyrea | is annoyed. |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | s/at/ate |
| 16:38 | slef | want me to report the bug? |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 16:39 | slef | plugin version? |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | the content is all still there, just the categories are gone. Should be easy enough to recreate |
| 16:39 | 1.3.3 | |
| 16:40 | oh bless whoever fixed the paging on parameterized saved reports. | |
| 16:47 | hrmph, somewhere there is a function that is transferring items, and you get something like Oskaloosa instead of OSKALOOSA | |
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| 16:49 | wizzyrea | for tobranch |
| 16:49 | slef | wizzyrea: what's the plugin's exact name? I don't have plugins in my dashboard :( |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | DS_FAQ |
| 16:50 | slef | not found @ wordpress.org - got link? :( |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | yea, sec |
| 16:50 | slef | wp-ds-faq? |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | yes, sorry, specificity fail |
| 16:51 | slef | np. Reporting... |
| 16:51 | hrm, doing the password reset shuffle | |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea: http://wordpress.org/support/t[…]e-lost-categories | |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | awesome, thanks |
| 17:02 | I will look into getting the categories re-inserted this afternoon | |
| 17:03 | slef | cool, thanks |
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| 17:08 | cait | nengard: around? |
| 17:08 | nengard | yes |
| 17:08 | is this about my most recent bug? | |
| 17:08 | cait | the duplicate subscription bug - I had a patch for that |
| 17:08 | nengard | cause i just learned that i wan't on master |
| 17:08 | k | |
| 17:08 | cait | ah |
| 17:08 | yep :) | |
| 17:08 | it should be fixed on master :) | |
| 17:08 | nengard | i'll mark it invalid |
| 17:09 | cait | I can give you the bug number |
| 17:09 | nengard | no i trust you |
| 17:09 | :) | |
| 17:09 | cait | it was the serials not working bug with 3 problems |
| 17:09 | bug 6305 | |
| 17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, The serials are not working properly |
| 17:10 | cait | nengard: I hope I didn't miss an instance or something - so perhaps you still want to make sure |
| 17:10 | nengard | yeah i'll test on master just in case |
| 17:10 | but i'm pretty sure i've had no problem on my system | |
| 17:10 | and it's just the system i was testing on | |
| 17:12 | cait | cool |
| 17:12 | I was worried I made a mistake there | |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | argh! |
| 17:21 | somewhere there is a transit function that causes the tobranch to be mixed case | |
| 17:21 | instead of all caps | |
| 17:24 | cait | oh? |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | http://paste.koha-community.org/14 |
| 17:24 | cait | weird! |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | i'll grant you |
| 17:24 | that example is weird anyway | |
| 17:24 | cait | hm |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | because a transit to/from the same place? |
| 17:24 | cait | is the description Wellsvile too? |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | w.e.i.r.d |
| 17:24 | no | |
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| 17:25 | cait | I wonder it's starting with a capital |
| 17:25 | where did it get that from? | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | the description would be Wellsville Community Library |
| 17:25 | cait | ok |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | but it's not putting that all in |
| 17:25 | cait | field is not long enough, but it's probably not what it#s doing |
| 17:26 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "another example, not so weird" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | and it's only in tobranch, not frombranch |
| 17:27 | interestingly, it has to be a workflow thing | |
| 17:27 | because some libraries generate a lot of these | |
| 17:27 | others none | |
| 17:30 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "item with full contents of branchtransfers" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/UkdCRjIZy |
| 17:32 | this is what it looks like in the interface when it happens | |
| 17:35 | cait | :( |
| 17:35 | which version are you currently? | |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | this is pretty close to master.. sec |
| 17:36 | 3.05.00.006 | |
| 17:36 | cait | hm |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | i think it's been happening for a while |
| 17:36 | cait | but the cases are current, not older? |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | ribht |
| 17:36 | right* | |
| 17:36 | cait | hmm |
| 17:37 | weird | |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | it doesn't happen *all* that often |
| 17:37 | of items currently in transit that haven't arrived (3000) probably less than a hundred have this condition? | |
| 17:38 | dumb question of the day, how can I tell mysql to pay attention to case :P | |
| 17:38 | cait | I think mysql doesn#t pay attention |
| 17:39 | but you are right, shoud lbe possible to tell it to care | |
| 17:39 | perhaps upper() lower() | |
| 17:39 | wizzyrea | (I want to ask it how many are mixed case) |
| 17:41 | cait | ask for not uppercase |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | Ah |
| 17:41 | good call | |
| 17:42 | cait | not in (uppper('branchname')) perhaps |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | ^ syntax error :/ |
| 17:44 | i'm piddling around with it | |
| 17:45 | oh strcmp might work | |
| 17:45 | because the strings would be different, I think? | |
| 17:45 | maybe not. | |
| 17:46 | mm no that's just length | |
| 17:48 | slef | bleah - it just took me that long to get my gravatar updated, with all the interruptions |
| 17:48 | I don't care. Nearly vuelta time. | |
| 17:49 | what are we playing with? | |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | well I have a case where a transfer has a tobranch of Xxxxxx instead of XXXXXX |
| 17:49 | and 1. I don't know why | |
| 17:49 | and 2 I want to find only those in lower case. | |
| 17:50 | to see how many there are. | |
| 17:51 | upper/lower convert the strings | |
| 17:52 | slef | where branchname != upper(branchname) ? |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 17:52 | chris_n | hmm earthquake |
| 17:52 | slef | chris_n: where? |
| 17:52 | jwagner | Good heavens. We just had an earthquake ] |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | !!!! |
| 17:53 | cait | oh |
| 17:53 | jwagner | DC area here |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | whoa |
| 17:53 | chris_n | MD |
| 17:53 | sorry | |
| 17:53 | NC | |
| 17:53 | I95 Exit 77 | |
| 17:53 | slef | wow... is there a fault line there? |
| 17:53 | chris_n | yes |
| 17:53 | cait | wizzyrea: oh, my mistake |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | big earthquake? |
| 17:53 | nah, sok it may still work | |
| 17:54 | oleonard | I'm feeling shaking too |
| 17:54 | chris_n | weird |
| 17:54 | the entire building was shaking | |
| 17:54 | slef | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]akes/recenteqsus/ look for the red dot |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | ...seriously? |
| 17:54 | oleonard | Seriously |
| 17:54 | slef | mag >5 |
| 17:55 | chris_n | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]es/at00lqe6x3.php |
| 17:55 | oleonard | Very subtle here, but noticeable |
| 17:55 | jwagner | looks like it was along I-64 between Charlottesville & Richmond |
| 17:55 | It was pretty noticeable here :-) | |
| 17:55 | slef | wow. I was there about this time last year. |
| 17:56 | google thinks it was in a river??? | |
| 17:56 | bbl | |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | oh, I guess you're not so far away owen' |
| 17:56 | i forget how close stuff is together in the east. | |
| 17:57 | still that's a long way away to feel an earthquake | |
| 17:57 | jwagner | preliminary magnitude 5.8 |
| 17:58 | oleonard | http://twitter.com/#!/search/earthquake |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | boston! |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Wait, that _was_ an earthquake? |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | yes, apparently it was |
| 17:59 | oleonard | jcamins never believes anything we say! |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | pentagon being evacuated after earthquake |
| 17:59 | ! | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | oleonard: no, Shari and I were just discussing whether there had been an earthquake. |
| 18:03 | It looks like the answer is yes. | |
| 18:03 | JesseM | jcamins: I felt it in CT |
| 18:04 | Agent_Dani | Yep. 5.8 (preliminary) centered in Virginia. |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | pretty shallow too |
| 18:09 | oleonard | wizzyrea wanted one she could have a conversation with. |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | it's true |
| 18:09 | jwagner | USGS now says 5.9 magnitude |
| 18:10 | And no, we don't generally get big ones in this part of the world. There have been a few local ones, but hardly noticeable. The last one, I thought a large truck was driving by. | |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | *nod* 5.9 is pretty big |
| 18:12 | slef | any fracking in Virginia? |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | or colorado? |
| 18:12 | probalby almost certainly in colorado | |
| 18:12 | friend says she felt it in indiana | |
| 18:13 | http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-u[…]amera-vibrate.jpg | |
| 18:13 | lol | |
| 18:13 | someone took a pic while it was going on | |
| 18:14 | that's either an elaborate hoax or completely awesome. | |
| 18:22 | chris_n | it was about 30 mins from my parents |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | is anything damaged? reports of people hurt? |
| 18:22 | chris_n | they said the roar was very loud |
| 18:22 | they walls of their log house were swaying | |
| 18:22 | but no damage | |
| 18:22 | thankfully | |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:23 | that's what I care about | |
| 18:27 | * chris_n | wonders if it got confused and thought this was the west coast |
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| 18:34 | jwagner | picked up from USA Today site: The USGS suggests that the quake is the largest to originate in Virginia since May 31, 1897. |
| 18:38 | Agent_Dani | That's what I hear from a friend in Richmond, VA, about 30 miles away from the epicenter. |
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| 18:40 | jwagner | The location details puts it Not Very Far At All from the North Anna nuclear power plant -- my sister used to be a health physics tech there. One trusts all the little atoms are safely locked down.... |
| 18:41 | * chris_n | used to fish in North Anna Lake |
| 18:46 | chris_n | I think two nuc's have shut down for safety checks |
| 18:48 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/#!/YUCKYBO[…]06064231459323904 |
| 18:54 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6768] Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6768> |
| 18:59 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 19:02 | oleonard | I never find so many bugs as when I'm trying to fix bugs. |
| 19:03 | cait | yep |
| 19:03 | or when testing something else | |
| 19:06 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5028] Remove references to catmaintain.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5028> |
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| 19:28 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 19:29 | rhcl | Brooke! |
| 19:29 | Brooke | homie g! |
| 19:29 | whazzah? | |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | whaddup brooke |
| 19:29 | Brooke | we had a wee rumbler |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | i heard! |
| 19:30 | Brooke | the earthquake shack they have in museum is worse ;) |
| 19:31 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:31 | Brooke | guten tag |
| 19:40 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3431] Catalog by itemtype report pulling from holdingbranch <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3431> |
| 19:42 | cait | owen superhero :) |
| 19:43 | oleonard | Relevant to our interests: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/[…]ieve-about-names/ |
| 19:46 | Brooke | if you input my Indian name, it usually makes a deprecated system cry |
| 19:49 | rhcl | If you input my Korean name into a Korean computer it laughs. |
| 19:54 | Brooke | indeed. No r sound in Korean. |
| 19:54 | ooops | |
| 19:54 | I meant no ok | |
| 19:54 | bah | |
| 19:54 | * Brooke | was Brett for a number of years. |
| 19:55 | Brooke | it was either that or Blake, and I'd rather be Brett. |
| 19:59 | rangi | morning |
| 19:59 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 20:00 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:01 | rangi | @later tell slef will fix the koha-httpd.conf today, wifi permitting |
| 20:01 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:02 | rhcl | Ah, no, I actually have a Korean name (from having been a Korean translator for 20 years and living there for 13 or so) |
| 20:02 | Brooke | morena |
| 20:07 | slef | thanks rangi |
| 20:07 | cait | rain! |
| 20:07 | rangi | im hoping that since this symposium is at the uni there will be some wifi |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | slef: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011[…]/?test=latestnews |
| 20:09 | cait | hm lots of rain |
| 20:09 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 20:09 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.4°C (10:08 PM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:09 | rangi | frack that |
| 20:09 | slef | wizzyrea: reminds me of http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisda[…]13000/2913807.stm so meh |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | oh snap. |
| 20:10 | fwiw I'm not really for fracking. | |
| 20:11 | I thought the existence of 'food grade' fracking liquid was interesting, however. | |
| 20:11 | s/liquid/fluid | |
| 20:11 | rhcl | all the same I would decline to drink it |
| 20:11 | rangi | ditto |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | tritto? |
| 20:12 | did I just make up a word? | |
| 20:12 | slef | Blackpool Shale Gas drilling suspended after quake - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-e[…]ncashire-13599161 |
| 20:12 | rangi | was there any damage in the quake usians? |
| 20:12 | rhcl | news isn't reporting much damage |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | lots of evacuations |
| 20:13 | but the pics I've seen of the devastation involve lawn chairs fallen over. | |
| 20:13 | rangi | heh |
| 20:13 | I guess its pretty rare | |
| 20:13 | like us and snow | |
| 20:13 | rhcl | two nukes did shut down, but with no apparent damage |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | yea, they say there hasn't been one that big since late 1800's |
| 20:13 | rangi | thats good |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 20:14 | rhcl | someday though New Madrid will wake up wizzyrea and me |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | though it wasn't in the news, there was a nuclear plant in nebraska? that was completely surrounded by flood water |
| 20:14 | rangi | how deep was it? |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | the flood water? |
| 20:15 | rangi | the epicenter |
| 20:15 | rhcl | very shallow = 1 km |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | oh 1km |
| 20:15 | rangi | ahh yeah, ud feel that |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | re the nuclear plant, they had to levee the plant off and hope it held, otherwise they'd be in a similar state as fukushima. |
| 20:15 | rangi | yikes |
| 20:16 | ok my stop bbl I hope | |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | mhm... let me try to find the article(s) |
| 20:16 | kk gl | |
| 20:16 | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/[…]ant_n_885067.html | |
| 20:23 | oleonard | This must be what you were talking about http://jmckinley.posterous.com[…]quake-devastation |
| 20:35 | pelletiermaxime left #koha | |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | yep that's one of the ones I saw |
| 20:38 | there's a whole meme now | |
| 20:46 | * chris_n | suggests googling on "liquid earth" |
| 20:46 | rangi | liquefaction |
| 20:46 | and yes, there is cafenet here | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | noice |
| 20:47 | chris_n: was there some liquefaction around? | |
| 20:48 | chris_n | no, but some of the videos of it are quite impressive |
| 20:48 | it appears the national cathedral lost a couple of spires | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | http://www.washingtonpost.com/[…]Oe3UZJ_video.html |
| 20:50 | yea | |
| 20:50 | never mind, the post sucks. | |
| 20:50 | rangi | there was a lot of it in christchurch, they are still cleaning it up |
| 20:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 391 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 5 j 11 h ago) |
| 20:51 | rangi | ok, pushed the fix for koha-httpd.conf |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | http://www.kmov.com/news/slide[…]g=1#gallery-image |
| 20:52 | rhcl joined #koha | |
| 20:53 | chris_n | off to home to make sure the chimneys are still standing :-) |
| 20:54 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | ooo yea |
| 20:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1226e43c93d7ae92> |
| 20:54 | druthb | o/ |
| 20:54 | rangi | ohh a patch from ulrich at bsz |
| 20:57 | rhcl | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]/android_gpl_fsf/ |
| 20:58 | cait | yep :) |
| 21:13 | rangi | man brenda chawner is awesome |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Has there really been no messages on any of the Koha lists all day? |
| 21:16 | ibeardsl1e | rangi: I assume you've seen this? http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.[…]handle/10063/1710 |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | hmm the last one I have is linda culberson at 12:24 |
| 21:16 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | and hdl at 1:35am |
| 21:16 | jcamins | I haven't gotten any. |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | several patches from owen, too |
| 21:16 | ibeardsl1e | "Factors Influencing Participant Satisfaction with Free/Libre and Open Source Software Projects" |
| 21:17 | jcamins | wizzyrea: any chance I could persuade you to try sending me an e-mail? |
| 21:17 | rangi | yup, brenda interviewed me :) |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | i'd love to pm me your address |
| 21:17 | rangi | jcamins/wizzyrea: i saw the mail on the bugs list |
| 21:17 | ibeardsl1e | should aim to involve her in the next academy |
| 21:19 | rangi | oh definitely |
| 21:23 | ohh the good stuff now | |
| 21:23 | copyright | |
| 21:28 | luisb | inquiry: would there be any adverse affect of my inserting library data directly into branches instead of using the interface? |
| 21:33 | rangi | no |
| 21:33 | as long as you put all the info in | |
| 21:33 | luisb | aye, thanks! |
| 21:35 | rhcl | well laid out thesis |
| 21:35 | luisb joined #koha | |
| 21:35 | luisb | have there been any thoughts of having some sort of import facility for libraries? |
| 21:35 | er, branches | |
| 21:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #391: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/391/ |
| 21:35 | Chris Cormack: Fixing executable bit on koha-httpd.conf | |
| 21:37 | rangi | nope, becuase usually the number is quite small, and its about as fast to just add them :) |
| 21:38 | but we definitely accept a patch :) | |
| 21:38 | note to self, check out islandora | |
| 21:45 | francharb left #koha | |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | ooo kay gotta stop by the store on the way home ttyl! |
| 21:51 | rangi | cya later |
| 21:54 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:09 | rangi | man law librarians love RSS |
| 22:10 | mtj | heya chris , i didnt know that.... |
| 22:10 | rangi | neither did i |
| 22:11 | its all about 'current awareness' | |
| 22:11 | the lawyers want to know whats new at all times | |
| 22:11 | http://identi.ca/notice/81468800 | |
| 22:14 | jcamins | Aggregator-type page? |
| 22:14 | And, yeah, they sure do like RSS. | |
| 22:15 | rangi | well, what these librarians are doing, is building a page using sharepoint (puke) |
| 22:15 | that aggregates feeds for the lawyers to look at | |
| 22:15 | jcamins | Ah. I see. |
| 22:17 | Irma | G'day #koha |
| 22:17 | rangi | i figure something like eric leases mylibrary |
| 22:18 | http://search.cpan.org/dist/MyLibrary/ | |
| 22:19 | i reckon a bunch of corporate libraries would do the same | |
| 22:19 | too many ideas, not enough hours :) | |
| 22:19 | hi Irma | |
| 22:20 | and hi druthb | |
| 22:20 | druthb | hi, rangi |
| 22:21 | jcamins | rangi: truer words were never spoken. |
| 22:21 | Irma | hi rangi .... Enjoy Wed and Thursday...Law librarians are a vivid informed and fun group! |
| 22:21 | jcamins | And, on that thought, off I go. |
| 22:24 | rangi | what the hell |
| 22:28 | Irma: yes they are :) | |
| 22:29 | Irma | Quick question: what should be looked at when > Searching >Keyword> Barcode> works but Searching > Barcode does not work? |
| 22:30 | Circulation> Barcode search works ... | |
| 22:30 | Strange ... | |
| 22:30 | rangi | hmm |
| 22:30 | * mtj | fires up his twitter/identica client after a few weeks of downtime |
| 22:31 | Irma | hi mtj :-) |
| 22:31 | mtj | Irma: that needs a screenshot |
| 22:31 | heya | |
| 22:32 | Irma | mtj ;-) |
| 22:32 | mtj | yeah, i cant visualize where your 'Searching > Barcode' is |
| 22:34 | Irma | mtj go to Search .... in advanced searching look for Barcode under the Keyword drop down menu ... |
| 22:34 | mtj | in opac? |
| 22:42 | fyi: i've confirmed the bug is in Irma's 3.2 koha, *only* | |
| 22:42 | so all good | |
| 22:43 | Irma | correction: this koha 3.2. is not hosted by us but another support company. CALYX does training etc.... |
| 22:44 | mtj | cool |
| 22:44 | try a full zebra re-index 1st | |
| 22:46 | but yeah, its a weird bug on that koha | |
| 22:46 | or buggy framework mapping , is my next guess... | |
| 22:48 | rangi | thatd do it |
| 22:49 | mtj | hmmm, frwrk mapping looks ok for barcode => 952$p |
| 22:49 | so its not that | |
| 22:51 | aarkerio | so, where is the HTML opac template? |
| 22:51 | Irma | yes it's a nuisance I would like to help the librarian get solved ... |
| 22:52 | rangi | aarkerio: sorry? what are you asking? |
| 22:52 | mtj | aaah, leading 000's in your barcode , is the bug |
| 22:53 | aarkerio | I mean where is the base HTML code from all the OPAC pages? |
| 22:53 | the <body> and so | |
| 22:53 | Irma | ah mtj are you sure? the number was 532 then one zero was added to match the actual barcode's number of 0532 |
| 22:54 | mtj | Irma: i've confirmed that bug on another 3.2 |
| 22:55 | Irma | thanks mtj will report back when we have it nailed! |
| 22:55 | rangi | aarkerio: if you want to customise the opac, editing the templates will make it very very very hard for you to upgrade in the future, you are better off using the sysprefs and jquery and css like |
| 22:55 | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 | |
| 22:56 | if you want to make changes in the template and send upstream as patches | |
| 22:56 | then they are in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ | |
| 22:57 | aarkerio | mmm, perfect!! thanks! |
| 22:59 | rangi | but beware, local changes that arent done using the sysprefs, make it hard for you to upgrade, so upstream or use the sysprefs :) |
| 23:02 | mtj | aarkerio: rangi gives you *very* wise advice :p |
| 23:11 | eythian | anyone tried to sign up to translations.k-c.org? I don't seem to be getting an activation email from it. |
| 23:13 | rangi | translate.koha-community.org ? |
| 23:13 | i signed up ages ago | |
| 23:13 | so havent tried recently | |
| 23:13 | eythian | err yeah, translate |
| 23:16 | rangi | i remember when charlie did |
| 23:16 | it took a while | |
| 23:16 | eythian | oh, it just came through :) |
| 23:16 | rangi | there ya go |
| 23:17 | eythian | I'm just impatient :) |
| 23:45 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 23:46 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:49 | Agent_Dani | \o |
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