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| 01:46 | Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
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| 01:47 | Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
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| 01:50 | Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
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| 02:10 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6703] can't see invoice content <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6703> |
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| 02:12 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 02:12 | rangi | hi Brooke |
| 02:12 | Brooke | I pehea to ra? |
| 02:13 | rangi | ahua pai |
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| 03:25 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
| 03:25 | good morning ;) | |
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| 04:03 | rangi | hi debrob |
| 04:03 | heya Amit_Gupta | |
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| 04:14 | Oak | hello #koha |
| 04:17 | rangi | hi Oak |
| 04:17 | Oak | heya rangi :) |
| 04:39 | rangi | ohh good to see osslabs setting up some enhancements in bugzilla |
| 04:46 | chilts | is osslabs using Koha now? |
| 04:50 | rangi | http://www.osslabs.biz/ <-- these guys |
| 04:52 | chilts | ah, they're the guys who do some stuff for NZRS |
| 04:53 | or maybe not ... anyway, that's good they're running it :) | |
| 04:53 | eythian | chilts: osslabs are in India |
| 04:54 | chilts | heh, won't be them then :) |
| 04:54 | * chilts | is thinking of someone else |
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| 05:48 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:48 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 05:48 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.1°C (7:44 AM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:26 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 06:30 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 06:30 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 06:31 | cait | morning magnuse and marcelr :) |
| 06:32 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
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| 06:33 | cait | magnuse: rangi said he has perhaps a fix for the language chooser problem :) |
| 06:33 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:35 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:37 | eythian | hi magnuse |
| 06:37 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 06:38 | eythian: i have been trying to update the man page for koha-create, should have it submitted in a day or two, i think | |
| 06:38 | eythian | awesome :) |
| 06:39 | I need to learn how to make man pages. | |
| 06:39 | magnuse | me too ;-) |
| 06:39 | i found an appendix about it in a book on shell scripting | |
| 06:39 | eythian | sweet |
| 06:40 | Which book? If it's an O'Reilly one I could buy it easily enough. | |
| 06:40 | magnuse | classic shell scripting |
| 06:41 | eythian | who's the publisher? |
| 06:41 | magnuse | http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005955 |
| 06:41 | eythian | cool. |
| 06:42 | magnuse | it's more of a long example, i'd guess there are good guides/descriptions to be had on line too |
| 06:42 | and if we use the koha-create one as a pattern it should be easy to do the others, i thinl | |
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| 06:43 | eythian | NZ$6.50 |
| 06:43 | https://market.android.com/det[…]ure=search_result | |
| 06:43 | isen071 | Hello everybody, I've just installed koha 3.02.10.000. I have a problem with the dontmerge systempreference... When I change an authority records thre is no effect on the associated biblios records. I read that dontmerge is no longer used and has been replaced by MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate but I can't find this option in my version... Can someone help me ? Thanks. |
| 06:44 | eythian | isen071: you know that 3.4 is the current stable release series, right? It's possible (I'm not sure) that that's been fixed there. |
| 06:44 | magnuse | eythian: they sell o'reilly books as a android apps? |
| 06:44 | cait | 3.2 is no longer maintained |
| 06:45 | eythian | magnuse: yep, for a really good price, too. |
| 06:45 | I think it's US$5 | |
| 06:45 | magnuse | yeah, that's cheap! |
| 06:46 | eythian | and it's downloading to my tablet now :) |
| 06:46 | isen071 | eythian: thanks you but I need my koha in french and I think the 3.4 version doesn't support french langage yet... |
| 06:46 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:47 | eythian | I really like the android web installer |
| 06:47 | * magnuse | havn't tried it |
| 06:47 | eythian | isen071: I'd be very surprised if it doesn't support french, but give it an hour and all the french folks will be online. |
| 06:47 | magnuse | isen071: there are lots of libraries using koha in french |
| 06:48 | eythian | magnuse: it's really handy. You just click 'install' on the website, pick which device you want it to install onto, and it immediately starts installing. |
| 06:48 | cait | bye all |
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| 06:48 | magnuse | eythian: and what sort of tablet do you use? |
| 06:48 | isen071 | I'll try to install the 3.4 version. Thanks. |
| 06:50 | eythian | magnuse: I got myself an Asus Transformer. It's nice because it has a detachable keyboard that gives it a huge chunk of extra battery life. |
| 06:50 | magnuse | yay |
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| 06:51 | magnuse | transformer, eh? does it turn into a car too? ;-) |
| 06:52 | eythian | and because O'Reilly is good and gives it to you as a DRM-free epub, I can transfer it to my ereader easily if I want to. |
| 06:52 | alas, no. That'd be handy, but probably make it too heavy. | |
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| 06:52 | alex_a | morning #koha |
| 06:53 | eythian | alex_a: hello |
| 06:53 | isen071: it looks like alex_a is the first Francophone here who may be able to answer your question. | |
| 06:53 | magnuse | eythian: wizzyrea was saying good things about it on G+ too - i wonder if that is a sign? i have a kindle, but i don't find that too good for reading those lovely DRM-free O'reilly books... |
| 06:54 | bonjour alex_a | |
| 06:54 | eythian | magnuse: I wouldn't touch a kindle with a long stick. But I have two other ereaders, so it doesn't matter :) |
| 06:54 | I tried to use the tablet for reading a book on, and it's not ideal. The shiny, and backlit, screen makes it a bit problematic. But it'll be fine for looking up references. | |
| 06:55 | alex_a | eythian: I have recomended isen071 to come here for ask people last friday :) |
| 06:55 | eythian | ah I see :) |
| 06:55 | alex_a | :) |
| 06:55 | magnuse | i have only bought two e-books from amazon... i wanted it because it was supposed to be a real good e-ink reader, and i wanted to see what that was like |
| 06:56 | yeah, i'm sceptical about the shiny screen... hm, where's that prefect device, i wonder? | |
| 06:56 | eythian | yeah, I bought a cheap one that a local bookseller was selling, aside from being a bit slow, it's a nice little machine. And I have one that's dual screen, with the other screen being an android tablet (but much less good tablet-wise than my new one) |
| 06:57 | but the eink side of it is great for reading on. | |
| 06:57 | magnuse | ah, interesting combo! |
| 06:57 | eythian | http://www.entourageedge.nl/en[…]rage-pocket-edge/ <-- it's this, but the US company has gone out of business recently. |
| 06:58 | annoyingly without releasing their SDK or source code. | |
| 06:59 | magnuse | :-( |
| 06:59 | nice gizmo, though ;-) | |
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| 07:00 | magnuse | kia ora hdl |
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| 07:00 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:01 | eythian | magnuse: it is quite nice. It's small and handy. |
| 07:01 | But I'll probably switch back to my Kobo now I have a real tablet, anyway. | |
| 07:01 | Mostly so I don't end up carrying 3 android devices around all the time, because that seems like taking it a bit too far ;) | |
| 07:01 | (also, the kobo is very light) | |
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| 07:02 | magnuse | eythian: yeah, 3 sounds like 1 or 2 too many... |
| 07:03 | eythian | well, I need my phone...:) |
| 07:03 | ...and my tablet | |
| 07:03 | ...I just don't need two tablets | |
| 07:03 | magnuse | ok, 1 too many, then ;-) |
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| 07:28 | francharb | morning koha |
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| 07:43 | rangi | evening |
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| 07:45 | magnuse | morning rangi |
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| 07:59 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:00 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:05 | kf | evening rangi :) |
| 08:05 | eythian | hi |
| 08:05 | kf | and hi eythian :) |
| 08:05 | how was monday? | |
| 08:05 | eythian | it's still going ;) |
| 08:05 | rangi | not too bad, got quite a lot done |
| 08:06 | kf | hope it will be the same here :) |
| 08:06 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:06 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.2°C (10:04 AM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:06 | kf | hm, feels a lot warmer already |
| 08:07 | eythian | I'm almost done getting some code to the point where I'm OK having my name on it :) |
| 08:07 | kf | :) |
| 08:07 | what does it do? | |
| 08:08 | eythian | allows users to add star ratings to biblios |
| 08:08 | kf | ah |
| 08:09 | thought mtj was working on something like that? | |
| 08:10 | eythian | yep, I've taken that, upgraded it to work in 3.4, and am giving it a whole load of spit-and-polish. |
| 08:11 | kf | :) |
| 08:12 | * magnuse | is not sure he wants his koha code with spit on it... ;-) |
| 08:12 | magnuse | anyway: yay! |
| 08:12 | eythian | heh :) |
| 08:16 | kf | hehe |
| 08:22 | * magnuse | is looking forward to the day when all clients are hosted with the packages |
| 08:22 | eythian | yeah, it makes things much easier. |
| 08:22 | rangi | package everything i say :) |
| 08:23 | eythian | why do you want everything you say packaged? |
| 08:23 | rangi | to make it easier to remember what i said |
| 08:23 | magnuse | lol! |
| 08:24 | and then just give it numbers... | |
| 08:24 | @quote get 123 | |
| 08:24 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 08:24 | rangi | heh |
| 08:24 | magnuse | clever scheme! |
| 08:25 | i guess the #koha logs are a start... | |
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| 08:26 | Brooke | ata marie |
| 08:27 | rangi | hi Brooke |
| 08:27 | magnuse | kia ora Brooke |
| 08:27 | Brooke | :) |
| 08:31 | eythian | OK, now all that's left is to clean up the database schema. That can wait for tomorrow though. |
| 08:31 | Brooke | those tricksy database schemata, always gettin' emselves in trouble |
| 08:32 | eythian | ah, it's just got some unnecessary bits the way it is, and the key setup isn't optimal for what it's mostly doing. So I need to sort that out. |
| 08:32 | * eythian | leaves work now |
| 08:33 | Brooke | cheers mate! |
| 08:38 | magnuse | leaving work at 8.40 pm? tch! |
| 08:38 | Brooke | inorite? |
| 08:39 | I feel like it should be on the list of "You might be involved with Koha if..." | |
| 08:39 | magnuse | ;-) |
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| 08:39 | Brooke | bonjour |
| 08:39 | wahanui | niihau, Brooke |
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| 08:52 | Oak | hello #koha |
| 08:52 | Brooke !!! | |
| 08:52 | Brooke | hey hey :) |
| 08:52 | Oak | how are ya? |
| 08:53 | Brooke | good enough for gummint woik |
| 08:53 | you? | |
| 08:53 | wahanui | rumour has it you is ketchup Oak's friend, you |
| 08:53 | Oak | good good |
| 08:53 | i'm okay | |
| 08:53 | Brooke | wahanui, you are so much dumber than Zoia, it's not even funny. |
| 08:53 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information... |
| 08:54 | rangi | zoia is a supybot the same as huginn |
| 08:54 | Oak | hola senorita kf |
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| 09:22 | kf | hola senor Oak |
| 09:24 | Oak | :) |
| 09:28 | Brooke | pffft, All Blacks losin' on penalties. The nerve. |
| 09:29 | kf | hi Brooke :) |
| 09:29 | Brooke | aloha |
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| 10:46 | kf | sekjal++ |
| 10:49 | Oak | what did he do? :) |
| 10:56 | magnuse | give a good answer on the mailinglist? |
| 10:58 | kf | yep |
| 11:17 | magnuse | wanders off in search of nourishment |
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| 11:38 | oakivil | hello #koha |
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| 11:52 | magnuse | hiya oakivil |
| 11:52 | kf | hi oakivil |
| 11:53 | oakivil | importing patron data from our current system |
| 11:53 | lastnode | hi |
| 11:53 | im just wondering if there isa guide for setting up koha ons hared hosting? | |
| 11:53 | i really want to demo it for someone but i dont have access to a vps | |
| 11:53 | oakivil | but now thinking about importing items |
| 11:53 | kf | oakivil: into koha? yay! |
| 11:53 | oakivil | i just imported biblios |
| 11:53 | well 2 weeks ago | |
| 11:54 | now importing patrons using patron_import perl script | |
| 11:54 | but it seems that items need to be injected directly into the database in koha 3.4+ ? | |
| 11:54 | kf | si this the one used for the gui too? |
| 11:54 | for 3.2 the best way was importing them with the bibliographic records I think | |
| 11:55 | oakivil | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 11:55 | kf | in 952 fields formatted the way koha wants it |
| 11:55 | oakivil | says inject into items-table |
| 11:55 | kf | for 3.4 you can still do that |
| 11:55 | but I wonder if you can now inject directly into the items table too | |
| 11:55 | oakivil | ok |
| 11:55 | i think i go with the bulkmarcimport.pl | |
| 11:55 | kf | I have not tried it yet but I think it should work |
| 11:56 | you have to be careful with you biblionumbers | |
| 11:56 | oakivil | because i already have a program that works well with text files |
| 11:56 | yeah | |
| 11:56 | kf | ah ok |
| 11:56 | if you import items using 952 make sure you have the important fields correctly | |
| 11:56 | $a AND $b should have the branchcode of your library | |
| 11:56 | oakivil | ok |
| 11:57 | kf | call number and barcode ($o and $p) are also good |
| 11:57 | oakivil | the wiki has pretty good instructions |
| 11:57 | kf | cool :) |
| 11:57 | oakivil | i think i can do it with those |
| 11:58 | kf | yes, the page looks pretty good |
| 11:58 | oakivil | what is "Koha full call number" as in items.itemcallnumber-column |
| 11:58 | kf | was not aware we had it :) |
| 11:58 | oakivil | ? |
| 11:58 | kf | the normal call number |
| 11:58 | of the item | |
| 11:58 | oakivil | and what is that? |
| 11:58 | wahanui | that is the problem |
| 11:59 | kf | the label on the book that indicates where the item can be found on shelf :) |
| 11:59 | oakivil | shelving number? |
| 11:59 | kf | the german word is signatur... not sure that helps here |
| 11:59 | if you are using numbers (numerus currens?) in your library, you can use that | |
| 11:59 | magnuse | hyllesignatur in norwegian |
| 11:59 | oakivil | ok |
| 12:00 | kf | it's what the patron uses to locate the book in the library |
| 12:00 | oakivil | ok |
| 12:00 | got it | |
| 12:00 | magnuse | oakivil: are you importing data for a migration or just for testing? |
| 12:00 | oakivil | testing |
| 12:00 | and to prove that it can be done | |
| 12:01 | magnuse | yay! :-) |
| 12:01 | oakivil | bosses are skeptical about the whole migration issue |
| 12:01 | so I try to prove them wrong | |
| 12:01 | magnuse | way to go! |
| 12:01 | thousands of libraries have been able to do it before | |
| 12:01 | oakivil | yeah |
| 12:01 | but it's hard | |
| 12:02 | magnuse | so why shouldn't you? :-) |
| 12:02 | oakivil | finding the relevant information and connecting the right bits in the right places |
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| 12:04 | kf | I think it's hard with every system |
| 12:04 | migrations I mean - never fun, but doable :) | |
| 12:04 | oakivil | if somebody would just tel me what to do it would be so easy :D |
| 12:05 | if i knew the right questions | |
| 12:05 | but im getting there | |
| 12:05 | kf | what is your current system? |
| 12:05 | oakivil | Koha is on Ubuntu 11.04 |
| 12:05 | kf | there is a collection of perl scripts for migration purposes in druthb' repository |
| 12:05 | oakivil | Koha 3.4 |
| 12:06 | kf | ah, the current ILS your library uses |
| 12:06 | oakivil | ah current system is PallasPro |
| 12:06 | it is a tailor made Finnish program | |
| 12:06 | and no finn has tread where I tread now | |
| 12:06 | kf | http://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox |
| 12:07 | oakivil | or maybe a couple has |
| 12:07 | magnuse | a few finnish people have looked at koha, but i have not heard of any migrations |
| 12:09 | oakivil: you can always ask about anything on irc and the mail lists - a together i think most problems have been solved by at least one of us some time or other... ;-) | |
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| 12:20 | oleonard | Hey #koha. |
| 12:21 | nengard | morning oleonard |
| 12:22 | @later tell chris_n sorry i missed your message from 2 days ago, was on the road all week, but it looks like someone else got that patch signed off on | |
| 12:22 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:23 | oleonard | Someone else wanted that gold. |
| 12:23 | lastnode | does anyone know the liblime pricing? |
| 12:23 | just a ballpark? | |
| 12:23 | (forkoha hosting) | |
| 12:24 | oleonard | We don't do Liblime here. |
| 12:24 | Liblime is not Koha. | |
| 12:24 | lastnode | i understand that |
| 12:24 | im not requesting support | |
| 12:24 | im just weighing the pros and cons of self hosting vs hosted | |
| 12:24 | if it's a problem, i wont discuss liblime, my bad | |
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| 12:26 | kf | lastnode: liblime doesn't host koha too - so it's not so interesitng |
| 12:26 | most support providers do hosting | |
| 12:26 | lastnode | i meant support, kf |
| 12:26 | (as well) | |
| 12:26 | im looking into vps options and want to weigh hosting vs hosting + support | |
| 12:27 | kf | hm, perhaps writing mails and asking directly is the best way to go then |
| 12:27 | you are in california, right? | |
| 12:28 | lastnode | no, colombo, sri lanka |
| 12:28 | im looking to roll out koha for a small pilot school here | |
| 12:28 | witha library of 3k books or so | |
| 12:28 | I'm nervous because that is a lot of data to be responsible for | |
| 12:28 | kf | oh! |
| 12:28 | sorry | |
| 12:28 | lastnode | adn im a hobbyist hacker (English teacher by trade) |
| 12:28 | kf | confused you with someone else |
| 12:29 | lastnode | np |
| 12:29 | kf | have you seen the support providers list on koha-community.org? |
| 12:29 | lastnode | no, let me have a look |
| 12:30 | found it, thanks | |
| 12:30 | gotta head home, will be back later | |
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| 12:30 | lastnode | thanks! |
| 12:31 | * Oak | waves again |
| 12:31 | Oak | magnuse |
| 12:32 | Bonjour Mademoiselle kf | |
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| 12:40 | kf | Bonjour Oak |
| 12:41 | Oak | :] |
| 12:42 | magnuse | Oak |
| 12:50 | Oak | funny http://xkcd.com/771/ |
| 12:52 | @later tell Brooke http://xkcd.com/174/ | |
| 12:52 | huginn | Oak: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:53 | Oak | uh oh not that one |
| 12:53 | @later tell Brooke http://xkcd.com/771/ | |
| 12:53 | huginn | Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:08 | oleonard | Hi libsysguy |
| 13:08 | libsysguy | hi oleonard |
| 13:11 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6753] Markup corrections and improvements for label export window <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6753> |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Bam! |
| 13:12 | kf | bam? :) |
| 13:14 | oleonard | Yeah I was just, you know... uh, saying 'bam.' |
| 13:14 | libsysguy | SWOOSH! |
| 13:14 | kf | lol |
| 13:15 | why do I suddenly think batman? | |
| 13:15 | * magnuse | too! |
| 13:15 | kf | :) |
| 13:15 | oleonard | If we're talking about Batman then I clocked that bug in the face but good. Pow! |
| 13:16 | kf | rofl |
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| 13:17 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:17 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 30.8°C (3:14 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:17 | kf | hmpf |
| 13:17 | oleonard | Still got some summer left eh kf? |
| 13:18 | magnuse | wow |
| 13:18 | @wunder boo | |
| 13:18 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:18 | kf | it just came back |
| 13:18 | had lots of rain this year | |
| 13:18 | but this is too warm for me already | |
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| 13:35 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 13:36 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0°C (6:00 PM PKT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:39 | sekjal | can anyone else confirm that, despite removing the 952s from the MARC records, biblios with many, many items are still giving problems to Zebra when searching? |
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| 13:48 | kf | sekjal: perhaps ask liz? |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | how many |
| 13:49 | kf | our libraries are too small - have not run into any problems yet |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | define "many" :) |
| 13:49 | sekjal | wizzyrea: usually around 700 items I find things start to choke |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Whoa, 700 items? |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure we have any with that many items |
| 13:50 | * oleonard | is a small fry |
| 13:50 | nengard | i think the 700 happens with serials |
| 13:50 | in academics where they keep them forever | |
| 13:50 | and circualte them | |
| 13:50 | sekjal | it's usually bound serials issues on the Most Important periodicals |
| 13:53 | kf | sekjal: have yo seen the bug on bugzilla? |
| 13:54 | it suggests using -x for indexing I think | |
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| 13:54 | sekjal | kf: yes, though I forget the number at the moment |
| 13:54 | and -x doesn't solve the problem, I'm finding | |
| 13:54 | kf | searching for ti... but hard |
| 13:55 | sekjal | the record gets exported to Zebra, and as much of it as will fit in the 9999 bytes gets indexed, according to my direct searches in yaz-client |
| 13:55 | so it'll show up in search results | |
| 13:55 | but the link to the details page is broken, because it always dies before getting to the 999 | |
| 13:56 | sorry, MARC subfield 999$c, to be more specific | |
| 13:56 | the 952s are added in using insert_fields_ordered | |
| 13:56 | kf | bug 5579 |
| 13:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 13:57 | magnuse | #marcmustdie |
| 13:57 | kf | bug 2453 |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2453 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, (very) large biblio/item handling |
| 13:57 | sekjal | I think if we changed that to append_fields, we'd make sure the biblionumber gets in there, and the only remaining issue would be that all the items are not properly summarized on the search results page |
| 13:58 | reading that last comment, it's me saying that this is solved... ::chuckle:: | |
| 13:58 | kf | hehe |
| 13:58 | murph | |
| 13:58 | y | |
| 14:15 | oleonard++ :) | |
| 14:15 | oakivil | So has anybody tried Fibram Fivefingers already? |
| 14:15 | sorry, Vibram Fivefingers | |
| 14:16 | * oleonard | knows people who love them, hasn't tried them himself. |
| 14:16 | oakivil | I remeber hearing some stuff about a koha-con |
| 14:16 | will it be held? | |
| 14:17 | magnuse | oakivil: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon11 |
| 14:17 | oleonard | http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 |
| 14:17 | oakivil | thanks |
| 14:17 | magnuse | planning is still going on, but there are lots of people signed up so it will happen! |
| 14:18 | oakivil | damn it's so expensive to fly there |
| 14:18 | magnuse | we have not yet decided where kohacon12 will be: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]als_for_KohaCon12 |
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| 14:20 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 14:24 | oleonard | Hi jcamins |
| 14:25 | isen514 | Hello everybody, I need help to get my koha works. Everything seems to be OK but when I try to book an item, I get the message : "No book available..."... Do you have an idea ? |
| 14:25 | oakivil | Are you using Zebra indexer? |
| 14:25 | jcamins | isen514: you need to have circulation rules and holds configured. |
| 14:25 | isen514 | yes |
| 14:25 | jcamins | oleonard: hello. |
| 14:25 | hdl | try setting up your circulation and holds configuration files. |
| 14:26 | isen514 | I've tried to configure my circulation rules : authorised everyone (for testing)... |
| 14:29 | nengard | bug 6764 - i didn't even know there was a shelving location search option ... |
| 14:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6764 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , shelving location code search wrong |
| 14:30 | oleonard | there is? Bug 4329 is 'Failed QA' |
| 14:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4329 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , OPAC search by shelving location option |
| 14:31 | oleonard | Oh, it's one of the choices under Keyword, etc. |
| 14:32 | That's less usable than providing a list of existing values to choose from. | |
| 14:32 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 14:33 | oleonard: checkboxes or a list twhere you can select multiple values would be cool too :) | |
| 14:34 | oleonard | Bug 5980 |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5980 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , OPAC : Adding location to search indexes in search pages |
| 14:36 | sekjal | kf/oleonard: I'm working on a reimplemented fix for 4329 that will let you have multiple search params (item type, collection code AND/OR location) |
| 14:36 | brb | |
| 14:36 | kf | sekjal: nice! |
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| 14:39 | jcamins | Hi, kf. :) |
| 14:39 | nengard | oleonard, yeah i knew about the one that failed qa - but didn't know about this one - which should have failed qa since it doesn't work and requires you enter a location code which patrons don't know |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | jcamins: I made the ricotta gnocchi |
| 14:39 | jcamins | wizzyrea: how was it? kf said she was a little disappointed. |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | well I put mine with a tomato sauce |
| 14:40 | by themselves they're just gnocchi | |
| 14:40 | surprisingly unsurprising | |
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| 14:41 | wizzyrea | but, I would definitely make them again, because plopping ricotta in a bowl is a lot easier than mashing potatoes |
| 14:42 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:42 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! :D |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | (and if you put them with a tasty sauce, they're quite delish) |
| 14:42 | hi thar | |
| 14:43 | (and I can't help but think they might be less of a gut bomb than potato gnocchi, as ricotta is almost pure protein) | |
| 14:43 | * oleonard | loves gnocchi and should try making them again |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | you should :) |
| 14:44 | * nengard | loves gnocchi but never made any |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | jcamins' sweet potato gnocchi were super yummy too, but a lot more work |
| 14:44 | nengard/oleonard you want the ricotta gnocchi recipe? | |
| 14:45 | * oleonard | also loves dumplings, so I guess I'm a fan of gut bombs |
| 14:45 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Yes |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | http://budgetbytes.blogspot.co[…]8-recipe-065.html |
| 14:46 | i might make more and freeze them | |
| 14:46 | jcamins | Mmm, I'll have to try them. |
| 14:46 | The sweet potato gnocchi aren't really that hard, either, just time consuming (for the lactose intolerant). | |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 14:47 | http://www.epicurious.com/reci[…]r-and-Sage-233379 | |
| 14:47 | lol, never mind, that one has ricotta in it too. | |
| 14:47 | here we go, this is the right one | |
| 14:47 | http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/s[…]occhi/detail.aspx | |
| 14:48 | oleonard | How do you serve them? |
| 14:49 | jcamins | oleonard: with a sage butter sauce. |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | I did it with a caper/wine sauce |
| 14:49 | * oleonard | checks his watch for proximity to lunchtime |
| 14:50 | jcamins | That would probably be good too, but the sage butter sauce is so amazing that we never feel the desire to try something else. |
| 14:51 | http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/g[…]sauce/detail.aspx | |
| 14:51 | Only replace the packaged gnocchi with super-delicious home-made sweet potato gnocchi. :) | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | or ricotta gnocchi, if you're pressed for time :) |
| 14:51 | nengard | wizzyrea, sure send it along |
| 14:51 | oh there it is :) | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | seriously though I was impressed at how fast the ricotta gnocchi came together. |
| 14:52 | I could easliy make that after work for a 6:30 dinnertime | |
| 14:52 | * oleonard | whines "But I'm hungry noooowww!" |
| 14:52 | * wizzyrea | sends oleonard to his room |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | (after procuring him a graham cracker) |
| 14:54 | oleonard | Mmmmm... graham cracker. Are graham cracker's unique to USA? |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | hmm. good question |
| 14:55 | certainly there are other types of "digestive biscuits" in other countries | |
| 14:56 | kf | digestive biscuits? |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_biscuit |
| 14:56 | sekjal | zebrasrv has an implicit max file size of 1024 KB |
| 14:56 | unless it's started with the -k switch to indicate some other value | |
| 14:57 | oleonard | Only instead of helping digestion, they help curb lust. |
| 14:58 | jcamins | Biscuitgate? |
| 14:58 | Really? | |
| 15:00 | oleonard | http://www.straightdope.com/co[…]ead-fever-of-lust |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | lol yea |
| 15:01 | jcamins | oleonard: I was responding to the fact that there was a controversy over what kind of biscuit Gordon Brown preferred. |
| 15:03 | oleonard | Would that our political scandals were as lame. |
| 15:03 | jcamins | True. |
| 15:06 | slef | I think we know of graham crackers are mainly because of US TV. Not sure if they're widely available here. |
| 15:07 | oleonard | You can make a good peanut butter and Nutella sandwich with a graham cracker. |
| 15:08 | slef | Do you monitor your load averages and if so, at what values do your alarms trigger? |
| 15:09 | libsysguy | If I wanted to send out a notice everyday for a certain item type...could I do that? |
| 15:10 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:11 | nengard | libsysguy anything is possible |
| 15:11 | :) | |
| 15:11 | slef | libsysguy: probably but you'll probably need to talk to the API :) |
| 15:11 | libsysguy | right...but email notices seem to be quite a mess |
| 15:11 | with the hardcoded values for delays in the db | |
| 15:11 | nengard | hehe |
| 15:12 | libsysguy | instead of more of a frequency |
| 15:12 | * libsysguy | might cry |
| 15:12 | slef | that's not how they're a mess. You might not want to look too much more closely if that's already brought you to tears :) |
| 15:13 | doesn't frequency = 1/delay anyway? | |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | something like that |
| 15:14 | wahanui | something like that is sticking in nengard's mind |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | is there a ticket to rework notices? |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Are you volunteering libsysguy? :P |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | maybe |
| 15:15 | slef | @query notices enhancement |
| 15:15 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1785 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Notices are changable globally not per branch + overdue rules |
| 15:15 | libsysguy | is the current exchange of currency Karma |
| 15:15 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3941 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Combine Notices & Messaging Tabs |
| 15:15 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Options for Suggestion Emails | |
| 15:15 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4398 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Example notice for 'claims notice' in Serials | |
| 15:15 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3490 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Billing Notice/Debt Collect | |
| 15:16 | oleonard | May that trick be used only for good. |
| 15:16 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 15:18 | nengard | That is so cool :) |
| 15:18 | scared to try it though | |
| 15:19 | slef | huginn refuses to return more than 5 matches so we need to clean up bz to make it more useful |
| 15:19 | huginn | slef: I suck |
| 15:19 | slef | huginn: yes, you do |
| 15:19 | huginn | slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:20 | slef | @query --total notices enhancement |
| 15:20 | huginn | slef: 7 results for "notices enhancement." |
| 15:20 | slef | @query --total notices |
| 15:20 | huginn | slef: 75 results for "notices." |
| 15:20 | oleonard | Judging by huginn's self-esteem he will be the template for Marvin's AI. |
| 15:21 | slef | bbl |
| 15:21 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4419] Cannot change module for notice templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4419> |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Bam! |
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| 15:32 | kf | libsysguy: which hardcoded delay values? |
| 15:32 | libsysguy: tools > notice triggers and starting overdue_notices with -t | |
| 15:34 | hm | |
| 15:34 | is he already goneß | |
| 15:34 | ? | |
| 15:34 | time to go here too... still too warm to think | |
| 15:34 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 15:34 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.1°C (5:33 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:34 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:35 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 15:35 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 23.0°C (11:30 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:35 | druthb | @wunder greenfield, in |
| 15:35 | nengard | wow - no rain |
| 15:35 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenfield, Indiana is 24.1°C (11:35 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:35 | nengard | first time in nearly 2 weeks |
| 15:35 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 15:35 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 24.7°C (11:31 AM EDT on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:36 | sekjal | okay, I'm making some progress against the too-many-items issue |
| 15:36 | adding the 952s at the end helps, but isn't sufficient | |
| 15:36 | the problem shifts to fix_biblio_id | |
| 15:37 | a subroutine decorated with lots of FIXME's | |
| 15:38 | libsysguy | oh those are most excellent |
| 15:38 | I found quite a few of those in Auth_with_ldap.pm | |
| 15:38 | sekjal | yeah, that module needs an overhaul |
| 15:39 | libsysguy | Yeah I put in some work on it...but it was more tailored to our campus so I didn't want to commit it |
| 15:54 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2534] Viewing items table on item edit screen requires horizontal scrolling <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2534> |
| 15:55 | hdl | sekjal: ... looks like we did the same on circulation. |
| 15:55 | quite recently | |
| 15:55 | using datatables.net | |
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| 15:57 | hdl | erm no. |
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| 16:00 | hdl | sekjal: about fix_biblio_ids, it is a problem we also had. We are using insert_fields_ordered rather than append_field |
| 16:00 | But insert_field_before for marc21 should be more adapted. | |
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| 16:01 | sekjal | hdl: I've mapped out the code, starting in the get_corrected_marc_record subroutine in rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | hi melia |
| 16:01 | sekjal | it's not a pretty sequence |
| 16:01 | hdl | and we also had to limit the number of items inserted at indexing time ? |
| 16:01 | and we also had to limit the number of items inserted at indexing time. | |
| 16:02 | where is the code ? | |
| 16:02 | wahanui | the code is kept at git.koha-community.org |
| 16:02 | hdl | where is sekjal's code ? |
| 16:02 | sekjal | hdl: rebuild_zebra.pl, around lines 429 to 490 |
| 16:03 | then in C4/Biblio.pm, 1057 to 1080 | |
| 16:04 | hdl | Is it on a git repository ? |
| 16:04 | sekjal | hdl: I haven't written any patches against this yet; I'm just reading what's currently in Koha |
| 16:05 | trying to figure out what it's currently doing | |
| 16:05 | so I can best optimize the changes | |
| 16:07 | so, get_corrected_marc_record calls get_raw_marc_record, which calls GetMarcBiblio (without the embed param and only if you're using -x) | |
| 16:07 | once it gets the record, it get_raw_marc_record does the EmbedItems...() subroutine | |
| 16:08 | then returns the record to get_corrected_marc_record, which tries to fix_biblio_id | |
| 16:08 | the updated 999 field is added in order, after all the 952s, which means it gets lost if the 952s put the record over filesize limit | |
| 16:09 | what needs to happen is the fix_biblio_ids check needs to be done in GetMarcBiblio, before the Embed command | |
| 16:09 | then Embed needs to be modified to append, rather than insert_ordered | |
| 16:10 | we could also eliminate get_raw_marc_records call to Embed by passing the embed param to GetMarcBiblio | |
| 16:10 | simplify things a little | |
| 16:11 | now, the 999 field should ALWAYS be in the marcxml , right? but in case it's not, shouldn't any call to GetMarcBiblio check and insert it if it's missing? | |
| 16:12 | hdl | as far as i know, what you say was my first version of code. |
| 16:12 | if gmcharlt did otherwise, he surely had good reasons. | |
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| 16:14 | hdl | mmm what you say makes sense. |
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| 16:15 | Oak | ♥ #kohart |
| 16:15 | tch tch | |
| 16:15 | ruined it | |
| 16:16 | will try again | |
| 16:16 | ♥ #koha | |
| 16:16 | Guten Abend cait | |
| 16:16 | sekjal | EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio is only called (outside of C4::Biblio) in three places: tools/export.pl, rebuild_zebra.pl, and catalouging/additem.pl |
| 16:16 | cait | hi Oak |
| 16:17 | sekjal | I think the first two of those could easily be eliminated in favour of passing the 'embed' param to GetMarcBiblio |
| 16:20 | brb; going to make some lunch | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | wizzyrea: around? |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | sup |
| 16:31 | jcamins | What caching plugin do you use with WordPress? |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | wp Super Cache |
| 16:32 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea | np :) |
| 16:34 | hdl | god evening |
| 16:35 | cait | hi hdl |
| 16:38 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2891] Cannot manually enter dates in some report forms <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2891> |
| 17:21 | chris_n | any recommendations on a HTML to text parser? |
| 17:22 | cait | hm? |
| 17:23 | * chris_n | tempts cait with a double fudge brownie |
| 17:23 | cait | oh |
| 17:23 | how mean | |
| 17:23 | why? | |
| 17:24 | * cait | likes brownies |
| 17:24 | chris_n | well, in exchange for information on an html to text parser, of course ;-) |
| 17:24 | cait | oh |
| 17:24 | so no brownie for me | |
| 17:24 | I wondered what it would do | |
| 17:25 | chris_n | you may have one anyway |
| 17:25 | for being so helpful in general | |
| 17:25 | cait | oh, that's nice :) |
| 17:25 | * chris_n | sets the whole dish out for #koha |
| 17:34 | jcamins | chris_n: there must be a dehtml script. |
| 17:35 | chris_n: http://www.moria.de/~michael/dehtml/ | |
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| 17:47 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:47 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.9°C (7:43 PM CEST on August 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:31 | oleonard | I'm gone two hours and all I miss is brownies? Slow Monday. |
| 19:32 | cait | :) |
| 19:32 | true | |
| 19:40 | rangi | morning |
| 19:41 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:41 | Now that rangi is here we can be done with this slow Monday and start on Tuesday. | |
| 19:41 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:42 | http://coderwall.com/ranginui | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | lol wow |
| 19:44 | rangi | silly but fun |
| 19:45 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:46 | rangi | hi cait |
| 19:50 | oleonard | rangi: You left something out: http://screencast.com/t/wYdrQulXj |
| 19:51 | cait | rofl |
| 19:51 | rangi? | |
| 19:51 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 19:52 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | ok that made me laugh |
| 19:53 | * wizzyrea | nominates oleonard as designer of the Koha badges. |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | we could have the first gamified OPAC |
| 19:54 | rangi | henry bankshead had that idea |
| 19:54 | karma for patrons | |
| 19:54 | wahanui | patrons has neutral karma |
| 19:54 | rangi | we should do it, it would rule! |
| 19:54 | cait | hehe |
| 19:55 | koha badges sounds nice too | |
| 19:56 | rangi | yep u get badges to reflect how u earnt karma |
| 19:56 | 100 issues without an overdue | |
| 19:56 | etc | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | x number of "classic" authors read |
| 19:56 | library achievements | |
| 19:56 | rangi | would be all kinda fun |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | oh oh, read x british authors, get the "god save the queen" badge |
| 19:57 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:57 | yep | |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | the data you need to quantify that kind of thing should be in marc, right? |
| 19:58 | rangi | read rand, get mini world destroyer badge |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | ^^ LOL |
| 19:58 | rangi | yup |
| 19:58 | cait | hehe |
| 19:58 | endless possibilities | |
| 19:59 | rangi | would be very cool for publics and schools |
| 19:59 | ok my stop bbiab | |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | oh yea, that would be awesome |
| 19:59 | oleonard | I could check out the complete works of Dickens and return them the next day unread. |
| 19:59 | ...not that my director would mind the stats on that kind of gaming. | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | just like you can game foursquare :P |
| 20:00 | rangi | ud been in the lib twice |
| 20:00 | for that | |
| 20:00 | cait | hm |
| 20:00 | rangi | its all good |
| 20:00 | brb | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | yea, I mean, you get people coming in just to get library badges |
| 20:00 | that's... that's epic marketing. | |
| 20:00 | i mean really. | |
| 20:01 | this must happen. | |
| 20:01 | slef | wizzyrea: errr, having British republicans count towards a "god save the queen" badge may be a bit odd. How about "keep calm and carry on"? |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | I like that too! |
| 20:01 | slef | (ok, it has a crown on it, but it's still cool ;-) ) |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:02 | yours is better actually | |
| 20:02 | slef | God save the Queen... because no-one else will! |
| 20:03 | * slef | wanders off to sharpen the pike ^W^W^W cook dinner |
| 20:03 | cait | ^W^W? |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 20:03 | http://maniacdev.com/2011/05/o[…]-popup-generator/ | |
| 20:04 | slef | cait: delete-word |
| 20:04 | * cait | was thinking about a callnumber blinking and the first to get the book gets a badge... |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 20:04 | slef | cait: try it in a bash prompt some time. |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | "book of the day" |
| 20:04 | cait | slef: is something going to explode? |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | or "section of the day" |
| 20:04 | cait | wizzyrea: but could perhaps lead to not so pretty results... |
| 20:04 | slef | cait: not as long as you have a word on the command line to feed it |
| 20:05 | cait: and that's control-W not a ^ and a W | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | well, that's why I thought maybe "section" instead of "specific item" |
| 20:05 | cait | trying |
| 20:05 | but perhaps I am too tired | |
| 20:05 | slef | do German keyboards still label ctrl as strg or something? |
| 20:05 | cait | yep |
| 20:05 | slef | cool |
| 20:06 | cait | strg = steuerung I think |
| 20:06 | or whatever | |
| 20:06 | my word vanishes? | |
| 20:06 | oh | |
| 20:06 | slef | right... I'm going to steuerung some dinner. |
| 20:06 | cait | it deleted the last word from the line? |
| 20:06 | slef | yes |
| 20:06 | you can bring it back with ^Y | |
| 20:07 | (paste/yank) | |
| 20:07 | don't confuse delete-word (^W) with control-alt-delete-W which is delete-world | |
| 20:08 | rangi | back |
| 20:08 | * cait | make snotes ;) |
| 20:08 | cait | wb rangi |
| 20:10 | I am tepted to try it | |
| 20:10 | hi magnuse | |
| 20:10 | magnuse | kia ora cait & #koha |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | ok... so now i'm curious about achievement systems, check this out: http://www.reedolsen.com/how-t[…]for-iphone-games/ (ignore the fact that it's for iphone games, the theory remains) |
| 20:11 | think about how much we already track | |
| 20:11 | * magnuse | is looking forward to reading http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920014614 |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | OOo! |
| 20:12 | good one | |
| 20:12 | (seriously, no other ILS does this, right?) | |
| 20:12 | magnuse | not that i have heard of! |
| 20:13 | rangi | nope itd be a first i think |
| 20:13 | magnuse | and how hard can it be? ;-) |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | HA |
| 20:13 | it's just a database, right? | |
| 20:13 | magnuse | with crazy rules... |
| 20:13 | * wizzyrea | cackles evilly |
| 20:13 | magnuse | and... |
| 20:14 | cait | hehe |
| 20:14 | magnuse | @quote get 123 |
| 20:14 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 20:14 | cait | enh bug? :) |
| 20:14 | oleonard | That usually works. |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | RFC, lol. |
| 20:15 | magnuse | in norway we say that good preparations is half the work, so... |
| 20:15 | well, a wiki page for doodling won't hurt | |
| 20:15 | rangi | id do enh bug, and a proof of concept and let the rfc grow from there |
| 20:15 | overspeccing is the death of innovation :) | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | yes to all of that |
| 20:15 | cait | :) |
| 20:18 | * magnuse | wasn't thinking of a spec, more a place to share ideas... |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | I've started one |
| 20:18 | magnuse | yay! |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Gamifying_the_ILS |
| 20:23 | it's messy | |
| 20:23 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2539] kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2539> |
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| 20:25 | bencahill | is there anything complicated in transferring a koha install? I just tried, but I'm missing something... |
| 20:26 | db dump/import, copied /etc/koha, configured apache, and setup zebrasrv's daemon | |
| 20:26 | started everything, and staring at a dir listing... | |
| 20:27 | * magnuse | puts a big bowl of freshly made wild-raspberry-ice-cream in the middle of #koha and wanders off to eat the rest of it... |
| 20:28 | cait | oooh |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 20:29 | bencahill | nvm, koha-httpd.conf was marked as executable, and apache probably didn't like that...all good now! :-D |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 20:29 | bencahill | my fault for transferring data using a samba share |
| 20:29 | but nonetheless, quite an easy transition! | |
| 20:35 | am I supposed to have a /var/lock/koha dir? | |
| 20:36 | I remember setting ownership to koha:koha on /var/lock/koha/zebradb/ , but I don't have such a dir here? | |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Gamifying_the_ILS |
| 20:38 | sekjal | nice! |
| 20:39 | I should pass that to hankbank; he was talking about a Karma system earlier, and that could dovetail right in | |
| 20:41 | cait | bencahill: did you transfer a dev install? |
| 20:42 | hm etc/koha looks like a standard install, so you might be missing files form other directories I think | |
| 20:42 | bencahill | cait: no |
| 20:43 | cait: yeah, I didn't copy the /var/lib/koha or /var/lock/koha dirs... | |
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| 20:51 | rangi | release day today eh? |
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| 21:38 | rangi | coffee time, bbiab |
| 21:51 | cait | mmh coffee |
| 21:51 | rangi | back |
| 21:57 | cait | hmm |
| 21:57 | What's the problem here? | |
| 21:57 | <option value="[% frameworkcodeloo.value %]" [% frameworkcodeloo.selected %]> | |
| 21:57 | [% frameworkcodeloo.frameworktext %] | |
| 21:57 | </option> | |
| 21:59 | class="hilighted"? | |
| 22:00 | rangi | ? |
| 22:01 | cait | the script tells me I have to fix something in the option thing |
| 22:01 | but I don't see a directive there | |
| 22:02 | and the other is only something I wondered, the class is named highlighted in other places | |
| 22:05 | ok, will ignore it for now | |
| 22:06 | libsysguy | so I wrote a script to parse a CSV of subscriptions and insert them into the db but when i click the titles I don't get an option to edit them individually |
| 22:06 | did I forget to insert something somewhere? | |
| 22:09 | cait | what do youmean you don't get an option to edit? |
| 22:09 | libsysguy | if I click a title typically there is an option to edit the subscription right next to the button to add a new subscription |
| 22:10 | but there is also no information in the subscription when you click into it | |
| 22:10 | cait | hm |
| 22:10 | have you tried adding a subscription manually and compare? | |
| 22:10 | libsysguy | so maybe i need to poke some data somewhere else in the DB |
| 22:10 | yes. I got all the fields correct in the subscription table | |
| 22:11 | cait | which tables have you filled with data? |
| 22:11 | libsysguy | but i didn't insert into the subscriptionhistory table |
| 22:11 | just subscription | |
| 22:12 | cait | hm |
| 22:12 | perhaps you also need serials and serialitems | |
| 22:12 | a first predicted volume maybe? | |
| 22:12 | libsysguy | perhaps |
| 22:12 | i bet that is it | |
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| 22:23 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 22:23 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:23 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 22:23 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on August 23, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:24 | cait | too warm :( |
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| 22:48 | eythian | https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=55439 <-- friends don't let friends do PHP |
| 22:48 | rangi | heh |
| 22:58 | chilts | that's a good'un |
| 22:59 | mtj | sheesh, no build-bot for the php releases... :/ |
| 23:00 | and.. cheers chris! :) | |
| 23:04 | eythian | https://github.com/codedance/Retaliation <-- related |
| 23:06 | chilts | lol |
| 23:16 | eythian | mtj: almost done with making the stars rating stuff work on 3.4 and generally touching it up. |
| 23:16 | cait | morning eythian |
| 23:16 | eythian | hi cait |
| 23:16 | mtj | me? or you? |
| 23:16 | eythian | mtj: me :) |
| 23:16 | mtj | eep, me too! |
| 23:17 | eythian | haha |
| 23:17 | that's why I said I was doing it on bug 5668 :) | |
| 23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Star ratings in the opac |
| 23:17 | mtj | http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]da29320244ed0a7a6 |
| 23:18 | cait | you should work on your communication |
| 23:18 | ;) | |
| 23:18 | mtj | yeah, good call - i was too busy to update the bug :/ |
| 23:18 | yeah, it happens some times... | |
| 23:19 | eythian | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]5668-star-ratings <-- mine's here |
| 23:22 | mtj | looks nice |
| 23:23 | i ended up doing some 'display enhancments', so mines a little diff in functionallity.. | |
| 23:23 | and some db performance tweaks, etc | |
| 23:25 | mines 99% done, with unit tests and pod | |
| 23:26 | . | |
| 23:27 | but thanks for taking a wack at it, for me! | |
| 23:27 | * cait | hands out cookies and goes to bed |
| 23:39 | mtj | fyi, i updated the bug... including a deserved apology |
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| 23:42 | eythian | heh :) |
| 23:44 | I'm going to push this one up in the next hour or so because I need to get it in for a couple of clients, but we can probably put your stuff on top as patches afterwards without too much difficulty. |
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