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00:20 | druthb | o/ |
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00:40 | gp5st | hello. Is there a fast way to add books by barcode to batchs for labels to be printed? I know i can go to a batch, click add, click barcode, then add the books one by one. I was looking for a way to more or less scan, have it add, and come back to the search by barcode page |
00:43 | sorry: use case: i need to print a lot of spine labels | |
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01:10 | wizzyrea_away is now known as wizzyrea | |
01:11 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea. :) |
01:11 | wizzyrea | gp5st: that functionality is in 3.4 |
01:11 | hi :) | |
01:11 | one of my fav features actually | |
01:11 | gp5st | ah |
01:11 | i'm still on 3.0.x i think | |
01:11 | wizzyrea | dare I ask what version you are running? |
01:11 | about -> koha | |
01:12 | gp5st | i'll have to upgrade this computer nextweek |
01:12 | wizzyrea | rather more -> about, sorry |
01:12 | lol | |
01:12 | oh hey! bip worked right! | |
01:12 | gp5st | 3.01.00.128 |
01:12 | wizzyrea | ha! |
01:12 | oh yea, that's pre 3.2 | |
01:12 | you really ought to update :) | |
01:13 | gp5st | i'm still running ubuntu 9.04 on this thing. :-\ |
01:13 | i havn't had time to play with it for almost a year | |
01:13 | wizzyrea | never too late to get back into it ;) |
01:13 | gp5st | next week I'm going to come in with a flash drive, back everything up |
01:13 | and just update everything | |
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01:13 | gp5st | wizzyrea, yeah:) |
01:13 | i do like koha though | |
01:13 | pianohacker | hola |
01:13 | gp5st | fwiw this version seems nice |
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01:14 | druthb | hi, pianohacker! |
01:14 | gp5st | and well designed, so i am looking forward to the updates:) |
01:14 | pianohacker | hey there, druthb |
01:14 | How's it going? | |
01:15 | druthb | chugging along...adding new libraries to the Koha Revolution left and right. |
01:15 | bg | druthb++ |
01:15 | :) | |
01:15 | wizzyrea | gp5st: aw that's a very nice thing to say |
01:15 | bg | heya pianohacker |
01:15 | wahanui | pianohacker is our favorite boy genius |
01:15 | pianohacker | very complimentary bot |
01:15 | hi bg | |
01:15 | wizzyrea | he's taught well ;) |
01:16 | pianohacker | lol |
01:16 | druthb | bg++ #best boss evar! for paying me good money to get to do what I love. |
01:16 | pianohacker | okay, bg = brendan_ |
01:16 | druthb | that would be the boss, yes. International Man of Mystery. |
01:16 | bg | ah now it's just bg |
01:16 | wizzyrea | wahanui, pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel |
01:16 | wahanui | wizzyrea: bugger all, i dunno |
01:16 | bg | wishes /me could have brendan back but oh well |
01:17 | wizzyrea | member:pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel |
01:17 | humbug | |
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01:17 | wizzyrea | pianohacker is also the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel |
01:17 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
01:17 | wizzyrea | there we go |
01:17 | pianohacker? | |
01:17 | wahanui | pianohacker is our favorite boy genius or the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel |
01:17 | druthb | wizzyrea? |
01:17 | wahanui | wizzyrea is probably a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
01:17 | druthb | kicks wahanui. |
01:17 | pianohacker | I like this bot |
01:17 | wizzyrea | more a poet :P |
01:17 | druthb | Probably, nothin'. |
01:17 | wizzyrea | druthb? |
01:18 | !!! | |
01:18 | how can that be | |
01:18 | * druthb | wiggles her eyebrows. |
01:18 | * wizzyrea | plots |
01:18 | druthb | you and Brooke... |
01:18 | Brooke? | |
01:18 | wahanui | somebody said Brooke was so 'leet or so sweet |
01:18 | druthb | kf? |
01:18 | wahanui | kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet |
01:18 | druthb | cait? |
01:18 | wahanui | cait is kf or a programmer |
01:19 | druthb | bg? |
01:19 | wahanui | i heard bg was awesome! |
01:19 | pianohacker | haha |
01:19 | druthb | bg is also the BEST BOSS EVAR! |
01:19 | wahanui | okay, druthb. |
01:19 | pianohacker | at least he isn't recursive |
01:19 | druthb | hehehehe |
01:19 | bg | bg? |
01:19 | wahanui | somebody said bg was awesome! or the BEST BOSS EVAR! |
01:19 | bg | heh |
01:20 | wizzyrea | yay it's fun with bots hour in #koha! |
01:20 | @wunder lawrence ks | |
01:20 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 28.4�C (8:23 PM CDT on May 10, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady). |
01:20 | druthb | what I can't figure out, is how I managed to get ahead of sekjal in karma.... |
01:20 | @karma pianohacker | |
01:20 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32. |
01:20 | druthb | oh, my... that's too low! |
01:20 | jcamins_away | I thought there was a meeting now? |
01:20 | wizzyrea | oh there is no way that is right :P |
01:20 | druthb | pianohacker++ |
01:20 | wizzyrea | it's in about 40 mins |
01:21 | jcamins_away | Oh. |
01:21 | Right. | |
01:21 | @karma druthb | |
01:21 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 95 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 95. |
01:21 | jcamins_away | @karma sekjal |
01:21 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 95 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 94. |
01:21 | gp5st | well i should get going |
01:21 | jcamins_away | sekjal++ # that must've been a mistake. |
01:21 | gp5st | thanks and you all have a nice night |
01:21 | druthb | dead heat, again. |
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01:21 | pianohacker | druthb-- |
01:21 | :) | |
01:21 | wizzyrea | sure, good luck with your upgrade |
01:21 | oof | |
01:21 | druthb | ouchie! |
01:21 | jcamins_away | druthb++ # just to make it fair |
01:22 | * druthb | gives pianohacker an ebil eye. |
01:22 | jcamins_away | @karma jcamins |
01:22 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 79 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 78. |
01:22 | jcamins_away | @karma jcamins_away |
01:22 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
01:22 | jcamins_away | @karma jcamins_a |
01:22 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_a" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
01:22 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
01:22 | druthb | pickin' on old ladies...sheesh. The youth of today... |
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01:22 | wizzyrea | @karma wizzyrea |
01:22 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 172 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 172. |
01:22 | wizzyrea | whoa |
01:22 | pianohacker | Hey, I only harass people I like |
01:22 | O_o | |
01:22 | druthb | jcamins, gmcharlt can merge those for ya. |
01:23 | pianohacker | @karma chris |
01:23 | huginn | pianohacker: Karma for "chris" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. |
01:23 | pianohacker | ohhh right |
01:23 | jcamins_away | @karma rangi |
01:23 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 315 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 312. |
01:23 | * pianohacker | bows |
01:23 | * jcamins_away | creates a map |
01:24 | druthb | got jwagner's goat real good when I changed nicks. she thought I'd have to start over, but gmcharlt fixed it. :) Got to hear lotsa grumblin. |
01:25 | * jcamins_away | _tries_ to create a map. |
01:25 | jcamins_away | Jeez, in one year I have completely forgotten how to use ArcGIS. |
01:25 | pianohacker | Oh dear. The person across from me at the USGS deals with that massive beast of a program a lot |
01:27 | jcamins_away | I might use GRASS or the other open source one -- or even just R -- but since I get a free copy, I might as well poke^H^H^H^Hstab it repeatedly until I get bored. |
01:29 | pianohacker | What are you working on? |
01:29 | * jcamins_away | installs Google Earth. |
01:29 | jcamins_away | Ooh, there's a Mac version? |
01:30 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
01:30 | speaking of mac versions | |
01:30 | mac skype = big security hole apparently | |
01:30 | jcamins_away | pianohacker: I'm plotting my eventual mapping of booksellers in Saint Petersburg during the reign of Nicholas II. |
01:31 | pianohacker | mac and video chat seem to dislike each other |
01:31 | wizzyrea | ?! |
01:31 | pianohacker | jcamins_away: Wow. You sir are a humanities student |
01:31 | facetime security bug? | |
01:31 | * wizzyrea | has never had that experience |
01:31 | wizzyrea | oo, I did not realize |
01:31 | i odn't use facetime | |
01:31 | jcamins_away | All hail our Googlean overlords. |
01:31 | pianohacker | I think it's been fixed, but it was apparently a big deal |
01:32 | wizzyrea | aha |
01:32 | * jcamins_away | really should be doing something more useful, but he just finished his paper, and maps are pretty. |
01:32 | wizzyrea | you sir, are the best sort of geek. |
01:32 | pianohacker | maps++ |
01:32 | Big and complicated problems associated with them | |
01:32 | (like projections... <shudder>) | |
01:32 | but very cool and useful | |
01:34 | jcamins_away | pianohacker: because I am incredibly geeky, I actually intend to -- after using a cartesian system for plotting my datapoints -- convert my data into polar coordinates. |
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01:35 | wizzyrea | i bow to your geek-dom |
01:35 | Brooke | kia ora |
01:35 | pianohacker | Hmm. What is this project for? Fun with maps, or are you studying something? |
01:35 | wizzyrea | kia ora brooke |
01:35 | pianohacker | Hey there Brooke |
01:35 | jcamins_away | pianohacker: my MA thesis is going to be on the geographical dispersion and movement of booksellers in Saint Petersburg during the reign of Nicholas II. |
01:35 | pianohacker | Ah, ok |
01:36 | Brooke | jcamins: how's work on me pearl handled revolvers goin? |
01:36 | pianohacker | So polar coords are actually perfect for that |
01:36 | wizzyrea | i uh, guess I never knew what you were getting your MA in? |
01:36 | * wizzyrea | is ashamed |
01:36 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: Slavic Studies. |
01:36 | wizzyrea | oho |
01:37 | jcamins_away | Brooke: if you mean "are you going to get barred from speaking at Jewish Studies conferences after you deliver your last paper?" the answer is "very well." |
01:37 | ("last" as in "the one I finished this morning"... approximately a gazillion left to do.) | |
01:38 | Brooke | uh oh |
01:38 | * Brooke | is skairt to ask. |
01:39 | Brooke | meeting in 18 |
01:40 | yeah, they're gonna photoshop you outta the paper. | |
01:40 | * jcamins_away | admires Gorokhovaia ulitsa. |
01:40 | jcamins_away | google_earth++ |
01:41 | I know I should be using something open source, but it's just. so. pretty. | |
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01:42 | Brooke | tell yer Northern Hawai'ian brothas |
01:42 | http://storycorps.org/ | |
01:42 | AndroUser is now known as SpaceLib | |
01:43 | Brooke | SpaceLib > AndroUser ;) |
01:45 | SpaceLib | Yeah. @ our 3.4 lunch... :) rock the android! |
01:45 | Brooke | it's always tease, tease, tease |
01:46 | SpaceLib | Hehehe. |
01:48 | rangi | gonna be a little late |
01:48 | start without us | |
01:48 | SpaceLib | Yes. |
01:50 | * Brooke | nominates pianohacker to chair. |
01:51 | pianohacker | wah? |
01:51 | meeting? | |
01:51 | wahanui | meeting is, like, on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
01:51 | pianohacker | wahanui, forget meeting |
01:51 | wahanui | pianohacker: I forgot meeting |
01:52 | SpaceLib | That's just mean |
01:52 | pianohacker | heh |
01:52 | I was still in school the semester _before_ last when that meeting happened | |
01:52 | Is there a meeting now? | |
01:53 | Brooke | t minus 5 |
01:53 | SpaceLib | About to be |
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01:53 | Brooke | 0/ |
01:55 | pianohacker | I will probably disappear soon to deal with dinner, or I would help with meeting |
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01:56 | Brooke | pfft |
01:56 | wizzyrea | agenda? |
01:56 | humbug | |
01:56 | Brooke | humbug? |
01:57 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_11_May_2011 |
01:57 | SpaceLib | Q bah humbug |
01:58 | druthb | If I do the wave to the left, when everyone is doing it to the right, is that an out-of-order motion? |
01:58 | Brooke | #startmeeting |
01:58 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 11 02:01:13 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
01:58 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
01:58 | Brooke | Haere Mai |
01:58 | Welcome to the Community Meeting | |
01:58 | #topic Introductions | |
01:59 | * wizzyrea | is Liz Rea, NEKLS |
01:59 | * druthb | is D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions. |
01:59 | SpaceLib | Shelley gurney, |
01:59 | Catalyst | |
01:59 | wahanui | Catalyst are funding template refactoring |
01:59 | * jcamins_away | = Jared Camins-Esakov, ByWater Solutions |
02:00 | rhcl | rhcl = Greg Lawson, Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO, USA |
02:00 | * slef | = MJ Ray, software.coop member |
02:00 | mtj | = mason james, kohaaloha, nz |
02:02 | rangi | chris c, on his phone walking |
02:02 | wizzyrea | anyone else? |
02:02 | SpaceLib | Ditto |
02:02 | rangi | be at my desk soon |
02:02 | pianohacker | = Jesse Weaver, occasional koha programmer, lurking |
02:02 | wizzyrea | (please watch out for busses and cars) |
02:03 | Brooke | #topic Roadmap to 3.2 |
02:03 | I'm thinking we might have to skip that | |
02:03 | wizzyrea | I notice that chris_n isn't about |
02:04 | Brooke | did he appoint a minion? |
02:04 | wizzyrea | not that I'm aware of :/ |
02:04 | Brooke | right we can always come back should he arrive. |
02:05 | #topic Roadmap to 3.0 | |
02:05 | possiblay the same | |
02:05 | wizzyrea | hdl sent an email today saying he was going to stop support of 3.0, unless someone else picked it up |
02:06 | and I'm sure we all appreciate the two years he spent as release maintainer - hdl++ | |
02:06 | Brooke | indeed |
02:06 | hdl++ | |
02:06 | SpaceLib | Hdl++ |
02:06 | rhcl | hdl++ |
02:07 | wizzyrea | I suppose we should formally ask if there is anyone willing to take up RMaint for 3.0? |
02:07 | Brooke | Are there any objections to formal closure of 3.0? That has been a topic of conversation for some time now. |
02:07 | mtj | indeed!, thanx hdl |
02:07 | wizzyrea | or adopting formal closure |
02:07 | Brooke | I would think formal closure if it's not adopted. |
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02:08 | slef | we'll see what interest there is |
02:08 | mtj | Brooke: i agree |
02:08 | Brooke | are you interested slef? |
02:09 | slef | but I'll be surprised |
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02:09 | wizzyrea | so, should we vote to delay formal end-of-life for 3.0 til next meeting, pending a month for people to decide if they want to pick up maintenance? |
02:09 | slef | don't mind. depends what clients will fund |
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02:09 | slef | but I'll be surprised |
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02:10 | rangi | right, back at my desk |
02:10 | AndroUser2 left #koha | |
02:10 | Space_Librarian | ditto |
02:10 | Brooke | wiz: we've done that for like 2 months now. |
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02:10 | wizzyrea | fair enough |
02:10 | slef | we've only one lib on 3.0 with no upgrade plan yet |
02:10 | mtj | if 3.4 is stable, and 3.2 is old-stable, whats 3.0? ..... very-old-stable? |
02:10 | Space_Librarian | ancient stable |
02:11 | Irma | Irma Birchall - CALYX - Sorry for arriving late |
02:11 | wizzyrea | well it's currently without a RMaint, as hdl resigned today ;) |
02:11 | Brooke | a late irma > no irma :) |
02:11 | wizzyrea | so I think that might be it's death knell |
02:11 | Brooke | okay |
02:11 | here is what I propose | |
02:11 | we vote to kill it effective next meeting should no one step up in the interim | |
02:11 | is that amenable? | |
02:11 | slef | yep |
02:11 | rhcl | why did hdl resign? Did he feel that it's time had passed, or is he just too busy? |
02:12 | rangi | bit of both afaict |
02:12 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
02:12 | rangi | and i agree |
02:12 | wizzyrea | I think the time has come |
02:12 | Brooke | any objections to a kill as of next meeting? |
02:12 | Space_Librarian | nope |
02:12 | mtj | nope |
02:12 | wizzyrea | +1 to kill as of next meeting |
02:12 | rhcl | none |
02:13 | druthb | +1 |
02:13 | mtj | +1 |
02:13 | Space_Librarian | +1 |
02:13 | Brooke | reading none, motion carries |
02:14 | #action Should 3.0 not be adopted by an RM by next meeting, it will be a very dead parrot. | |
02:14 | #topic Roadmap to 3.4 | |
02:14 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4 | |
02:15 | wizzyrea | again no chris_n :/ |
02:15 | rangi | oh re 3.2.8 |
02:15 | its in string freeze | |
02:15 | Brooke | we should carry a nonsense motion to larn im ;) |
02:15 | rangi | will be released on the 15th |
02:15 | Brooke | oh sweet |
02:15 | wizzyrea | nice :) |
02:15 | rangi | 3.4.1 will go into string freeze then |
02:16 | and released on the 22nd | |
02:16 | wizzyrea | timed_releases++ |
02:16 | rangi | after 3.2.8 depending on if any patches come in, a 3.2.9 and 3.2.10 may follow |
02:16 | * rangi | is reading from chris_n's email |
02:16 | rangi | 3.4.x will be released on the 22nd of every month |
02:17 | up until october, when 3.6.0 will be released | |
02:17 | (and barring any security issues) | |
02:17 | SpaceLib left #koha | |
02:17 | rangi | thats all i know |
02:17 | you can track progress from here | |
02:17 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]erry-pick_for_3.4 | |
02:19 | thats all i know :) | |
02:19 | wizzyrea | lovely, thanks |
02:19 | mtj | cool, nice work chris |
02:19 | Brooke | that's a lot :D |
02:20 | #topic Roadmap to 3.6 | |
02:20 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6 | |
02:20 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ #for maintaining 2 versions at once |
02:20 | Brooke | indeed |
02:20 | chris_n++ | |
02:20 | rangi | ok, thats on track |
02:20 | http://koha-releasemanagement.[…]s/Work_for_3.6.x/ | |
02:21 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roadmap_to_3.6 | |
02:21 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow | |
02:21 | nothing more to report really | |
02:21 | just sign off :) | |
02:21 | Irma | rangi ++ |
02:22 | Brooke | rangi++ |
02:22 | wizzyrea | rangi++ |
02:22 | Space_Librarian | rangi++ |
02:22 | rhcl | rangi++ |
02:22 | druthb | rangi++ |
02:24 | Brooke | #topic KohaCon 2011 |
02:24 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2011 | |
02:24 | Brooke | not seein kmkale. |
02:24 | Space_Librarian | nope... |
02:24 | Brooke | Bueller? |
02:25 | wizzyrea | hrm |
02:25 | rangi | moving on? |
02:25 | Brooke | I'm going to go with |
02:25 | there were several sponsorships so far | |
02:25 | rangi | #idea ask kmkale to email the list with an update |
02:25 | Brooke | which is fortunate |
02:26 | and there have been a few proposals | |
02:26 | which is also fortunate | |
02:26 | wahanui | okay, Brooke. |
02:26 | Space_Librarian | but no sponsorships from bigger koha users |
02:26 | Brooke | stay posted over at http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 |
02:26 | to | |
02:26 | o | |
02:26 | #topic KohaCon 2012 | |
02:26 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2012 | |
02:27 | Space_Librarian | exciting. Are we still bullying people? |
02:27 | rhcl | ? |
02:27 | Brooke | I prefer "convincing". |
02:27 | Space_Librarian | we were trying persuade some people south america would be good for 2012 last meeting... |
02:28 | persuade is also a good word | |
02:28 | * druthb | suggests Lawrence, KS, just to hear wizzyrea scream a little. |
02:28 | Brooke | yeah, persuasion, that's the ticket. |
02:28 | wizzyrea | ! |
02:28 | rhcl | I support that! |
02:28 | Cheap airfare for me. | |
02:28 | rangi | i think north is probably due |
02:29 | Space_Librarian | can we use sparkly red shoes in the logo? |
02:29 | wizzyrea | lol |
02:29 | there's no place like home, they tell me | |
02:29 | * druthb | enjoys making wizzyrea go "!" |
02:29 | Brooke | pfft Europe'd due before North. |
02:29 | Space_Librarian | prince edward island... |
02:29 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
02:29 | rangi | thats what i mean |
02:29 | Space_Librarian | :p |
02:29 | wizzyrea | maybe 2013 ;) |
02:29 | rangi | real north |
02:29 | Brooke | my typing is atrocious, sorry. |
02:29 | rangi | not north america |
02:29 | Space_Librarian | canada? |
02:30 | (is still north america) never mind | |
02:30 | rangi | but really, there should be no convincing needed, someone should volunteer if they want to |
02:30 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
02:30 | Brooke | tyres might have been kicked |
02:30 | just as there were some Africans kicking tyres >:) | |
02:30 | NateC left #koha | |
02:30 | Space_Librarian | that's some heavy persuasion there, Brooke |
02:31 | * Brooke | looks innocent. |
02:31 | Space_Librarian | magnus_away did say may 2013 as well... |
02:31 | maybe* | |
02:31 | Brooke | well, we thought about it, and nengard's not here to pester us about acting on it |
02:31 | Space_Librarian | true |
02:32 | Brooke | oooh there's a thought. I'd only mind if it conflicted with eg |
02:32 | which I think would be a bad idea. | |
02:32 | slef | can we call for dates before next meeting? |
02:32 | Space_Librarian | UK - since their nat archives will be on Koha... |
02:33 | druthb | There was some talk at KUDOS last week about having a joing EG and KUDOS con starting in 2013. Most of the enthusiasm came from the two or three folks who attended both... |
02:33 | Brooke | not to mention we had UK last bid round :D |
02:33 | Space_Librarian | we did... |
02:33 | Irma | what are we hoping to achieve discussing Kohacon 2012 at this stage? |
02:33 | slef | bah it's unethical to go round announcing your clients |
02:33 | Space_Librarian | a shortlist by the time koha2011 finishes |
02:34 | Brooke | and it ought give people a wee bit more prep time than they've had in the past. |
02:34 | Space_Librarian | preferably the next conference venue |
02:34 | Irma | Is it time then to call on the e-list for expressions of interest? |
02:34 | wizzyrea | yep, let's do that |
02:35 | Space_Librarian | you'll need a set of dates for that... |
02:35 | otherwise, good idea. | |
02:35 | Brooke | #idea listserv eoi for KohaCon 2012 |
02:35 | wizzyrea | nah, that's part of the eoi |
02:35 | Brooke | sponsor decides dates methinks |
02:35 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
02:35 | * Space_Librarian | nods |
02:35 | slef | look |
02:35 | Irma | re dates: we need to look at an international list of library events ... |
02:36 | Space_Librarian | yeah. |
02:36 | slef | last time, ppl complained about collisions with other events |
02:36 | Space_Librarian | got that problem in NZ this year |
02:37 | slef | I don't know where to find dates for events in Aus or India... let's get some boundaries |
02:37 | Brooke | it's always going to collide with something, just hopefully that something is not something that would sap attendance |
02:37 | slef | hope and two quid will buy you a coffee :-/ |
02:37 | Irma | the IFLA website has events info |
02:38 | Space_Librarian | so does ALIA... for international conferences |
02:38 | slef | cool, are there gaps? |
02:38 | Space_Librarian | ALA mid-June... |
02:39 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzy_away | |
02:39 | wizzy_away | (for just a min) |
02:39 | Irma | I suggest we ask on the e-list and produce a Doodle survey for the best month |
02:39 | druthb | Irma++ |
02:40 | Space_Librarian | good idea |
02:40 | Irma | and the sponsor makes the last decision |
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02:40 | slef | Irma: good idea. can you? |
02:40 | Irma | sponsor/host |
02:40 | I can slef if you like ... | |
02:40 | Brooke | #idea doodle survey for best month for KohaCon |
02:40 | slef | I like |
02:40 | Irma | Brooke? Do you wish me to prepare that? |
02:40 | slef | Irma++ |
02:41 | Brooke | Do I ever :D |
02:41 | Irma++ | |
02:41 | I shall be your minion if necessary. | |
02:41 | slef | #action Irma to doodle for best month |
02:41 | Irma | Ok then "watch that space" |
02:41 | Space_Librarian | Irma++ |
02:41 | slef | #action Brooke to provide general minioning |
02:42 | Brooke | tough act to follow, but does anyone else have any bril ideas on this topic? |
02:42 | pfft, not general minioning, minioning to Irma :P | |
02:42 | Space_Librarian | hehe |
02:42 | Irma | hehe |
02:43 | Brooke | righto |
02:43 | Space_Librarian | er... will get back to you. |
02:43 | we had a good list last meeting | |
02:43 | Brooke | #topic DB Documentation Management |
02:43 | Topic for #koha is now DB Documentation Management | |
02:44 | rangi | no nicole |
02:44 | i propose we save this for next meeting | |
02:44 | Brooke | tabled barring objections |
02:44 | druthb | +1 to table |
02:44 | Space_Librarian | +1 to table |
02:44 | Irma | +1 to table |
02:44 | rhcl | +1 |
02:45 | Brooke | right DB Documentation Management may now kiss the bride. |
02:45 | slef | +1 to shelve |
02:45 | Brooke | #topic Miscellaneous Olde Business. |
02:45 | Topic for #koha is now Miscellaneous Olde Business. | |
02:45 | slef | ;-) |
02:45 | Brooke | MJ |
02:45 | ba dum cha | |
02:46 | nuffin? | |
02:47 | slef | not yet, not prepared |
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02:47 | * Space_Librarian | watches the tumbleweed roll past |
02:47 | Brooke | k |
02:47 | #topic time of next meeting | |
02:47 | Topic for #koha is now time of next meeting | |
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02:49 | rhcl | this time didn't seem to promote a good turnout |
02:49 | rangi | 8 hours from now |
02:49 | continue on the 8 hour rotation | |
02:49 | ? | |
02:49 | Space_Librarian | yep |
02:49 | Irma | yep |
02:49 | Space_Librarian | 14 June? |
02:49 | rangi | so 10:00 UTC |
02:49 | Irma | and consult the elaborate spreadsheet prepared after last meeting |
02:50 | rangi | oh god, do we have to? |
02:50 | Space_Librarian | :) |
02:50 | rangi | spreadsheets make me vomit |
02:50 | i think im allergic | |
02:50 | slef | me only if xlsx |
02:50 | Irma | all is good guys ... I was just kidding! |
02:50 | rangi | phew :) |
02:51 | slef | Real Community are here |
02:51 | Brooke | ya mean http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times |
02:51 | ? | |
02:51 | Space_Librarian | 10:00 UTC an issue? |
02:52 | Irma | yes Brooke but it was to inform us of the past to make the future easier and as fair as possible |
02:52 | Brooke | a yep |
02:52 | wizzyrea | ya, +8h from now |
02:52 | Brooke | that was a yep to Irma |
02:52 | Space_Librarian | when? |
02:52 | Irma | +8 hours from now is good for me too |
02:52 | Brooke | it is also nice because it doesn't screw Europe, who was screwed this go. |
02:52 | wahanui | okay, Brooke. |
02:53 | wizzyrea | forget it |
02:53 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot it |
02:53 | jcamins_away | Wasn't it 10:00 UTC last month? |
02:53 | Irma | what time would that be for you wizzyrea? |
02:53 | rangi | oh maybe we need to go -8 then |
02:53 | wizzyrea | 5am is early for me, with luck i'd have insomnia ;) |
02:53 | rangi | lemme look |
02:53 | * jcamins_away | has no objection, just confused 'cause he thought he remembered being up super-early last time. |
02:53 | rangi | yes it was |
02:53 | Space_Librarian | should be -8 |
02:54 | 6am for us... | |
02:54 | rangi | so this one should be -8 |
02:54 | thats ok | |
02:54 | im never asleep past then ;) | |
02:54 | wizzyrea | 1pm in CDT |
02:54 | slef | it'd be nice if ppl would send apologies if they won't be here ;) |
02:54 | rangi | good for europe and the US |
02:54 | Irma | 4am for me then a bike ride ... OK! That works! |
02:54 | * wizzyrea | curses daylight savings |
02:54 | * jcamins_away | sends his apologies for June's meeting. |
02:54 | Space_Librarian | do we have a date? |
02:55 | rangi | you cant make 1pm jcamins_away ? |
02:55 | jcamins_away | rangi: I can't make June. |
02:55 | rangi | ahh |
02:55 | wizzyrea | I think he'll be away somewhere exotic :) |
02:55 | rangi | note it on the wiki page ;-) |
02:55 | slef | jcamins_away: to the wiki is best, when it's there |
02:55 | snap! | |
02:55 | Irma | Space_librarian Good question! |
02:55 | wizzyrea | it'd be 2 for him, he's in eastern ^.^ |
02:55 | Space_Librarian | i thought so. :) |
02:56 | rangi | 14 is fine by me |
02:56 | Brooke | Holdin' it down on the East Siiiiidie. |
02:56 | wizzyrea | keepin the middle from blowin awayeeee |
02:56 | Brooke | yeah boy. |
02:56 | wizzyrea | bg's kickin it on the WC |
02:56 | * Brooke | is officially punchy. |
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02:57 | jcamins_away | Brooke++ # see, someone else *does* use the word punchy |
02:57 | wizzyrea | :) |
02:57 | so | |
02:57 | Space_Librarian | so 6am on the 15th (NZDST) for moi |
02:57 | slef | 14 ok afaict |
02:57 | druthb | "A motion to adjourn is always in order." 'specially with the chair-being getting punchy. |
02:58 | Brooke | can't |
02:58 | slef | jcamins_away: what about snuck and frit? |
02:58 | Brooke | I am chained to the gavel until we've a proper time and vote. |
02:58 | * druthb | is close enough to Brooke to get punched....so.... |
02:58 | rangi | ok so 14 June 18:00 UTC |
02:58 | Irma | Brooke June 15th? |
02:58 | slef | rangi++ |
02:58 | Brooke | argh conflicting motions |
02:58 | rangi | theres the proper |
02:58 | wizzyrea | there it is |
02:58 | Space_Librarian | 14th |
02:58 | rangi | vote you scoundrels |
02:58 | Brooke | traffic copping Rangi first |
02:58 | druthb | +1 #rangi |
02:59 | wizzyrea | 14 june 18:00 UTC |
02:59 | Space_Librarian | +1 |
02:59 | * rangi | may have had a couple of beers at lunch |
02:59 | Brooke | 14th June 18:00 UTC +1 |
02:59 | wizzyrea | +1 |
02:59 | Space_Librarian | he did too |
02:59 | jcamins_away | slef: nah, those're Englishisms. ;) |
02:59 | Irma | Brooke do you want me to add May and June to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times ? |
02:59 | wizzyrea | doo eet |
02:59 | Brooke | Irma I'll do eet |
02:59 | wizzyrea | move to get back to your regularly scheduled koha bidniz |
02:59 | Brooke | that's yeoman's woik. |
02:59 | Irma | thanks Brooke |
02:59 | Brooke | k |
02:59 | Space_Librarian | oh, can we short out wiki email validation things yet? |
03:00 | Brooke | barring objections 14 June 1800 UTC it is. |
03:00 | wizzyrea | no gmcharlt tonight :( |
03:00 | Space_Librarian | d'oh |
03:00 | Brooke | fine |
03:00 | slef | Space_Librarian: in what way JOOI? |
03:00 | Brooke | #action 14 June 1800 UTC Next Meeting |
03:00 | #endmeeting | |
03:00 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.0 is now available | Next IRC meeting 11 May 2011 0200 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org | |
03:00 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 11 03:03:55 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
03:00 | Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-05-11-02.01.html | |
03:00 | Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-05-11-02.01.txt | |
03:00 | Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]11-02.01.log.html | |
03:00 | Space_Librarian | slef ? |
03:00 | wahanui | somebody said slef was an avid cyclist |
03:01 | rangi | slef: the wiki currently cant send emails, they are working on afaik |
03:01 | slef | jcamins_away: heh, regionalisms |
03:01 | rangi: oic | |
03:01 | rangi | (someone was spamming through the mail) |
03:01 | i hate spammers | |
03:01 | wizzyrea | spammers-- |
03:01 | * druthb | waves, and stumbles off to bed. |
03:01 | Space_Librarian | bye ruth! |
03:02 | * wizzyrea | commences more who ssn 5 |
03:02 | slef | I hate mediawiki's apparent lack of sane antispam |
03:02 | Irma | waves and thinks about work for clients ... |
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03:02 | * Space_Librarian | envious of wizzyrea |
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03:02 | * Oak | waves |
03:02 | Space_Librarian | hey |
03:03 | slef | Space_Librarian: you can login with openid though? |
03:03 | Irma | druthb sleep well :)! |
03:03 | * jcamins_away | regretfully tears himself away from maps, and goes to get some sleep. So much on catching up on sleep tonight. |
03:03 | Space_Librarian | nope. |
03:03 | wizzyrea | still have to vaildate :( |
03:03 | Space_Librarian | you need to have your email verified now |
03:03 | and it doesn't send out the validation email | |
03:03 | slef | oh that sucks |
03:04 | rangi | prolly not much point discussing it without gmcharlt |
03:04 | jcamins_away | Lighthouses of NZ! So cool! |
03:04 | * Irma | says "Ciao" and runs away |
03:04 | slef | gmcharlt is single point of admin? |
03:04 | Space_Librarian | it appears so |
03:04 | rangi | no, but it is an esi machine |
03:04 | slef | Irma: ciao |
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03:05 | Space_Librarian | bye Irma |
03:05 | rangi | thd is an admin too |
03:05 | slef | who is also afk... ok |
03:05 | Space_Librarian | haven't seen him in a while either... |
03:05 | rangi | but i think we need someone to set up their mta |
03:05 | so not the actual wiki | |
03:05 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ministration#wiki.koha-community.org | |
03:06 | none of them around | |
03:06 | slef | postfix and exim4 security alerts last few days btw |
03:06 | rangi | *nod* |
03:06 | wizzyrea | oof |
03:06 | rangi | the exim4 one was quite nasty |
03:06 | jcamins_away | Good night, #koha |
03:06 | rangi | cya jcamins_away |
03:06 | * Space_Librarian | waves at jcamins_away |
03:06 | jcamins_away is now known as jcamins_REALLY_away | |
03:06 | wizzyrea | bye jcamins |
03:06 | lol | |
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03:08 | slef | is this email validation thing in bugs? |
03:08 | rangi | dunno |
03:09 | Brooke | the upload thing bothers me much more than the no email thing |
03:09 | slef | bug 6324 |
03:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6324 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. |
03:09 | wizzyrea | no email = no new contributors = bad |
03:10 | :/ | |
03:10 | slef | I don't see the email thing in bugs. I don't have my login on this pc |
03:10 | wizzyrea | i can file one |
03:10 | slef | I'll file it i... ok, thanks |
03:11 | wizzyrea | I'm already in :) |
03:11 | slef | at least then we can bug gmcharlt async'ly |
03:11 | wizzyrea | i know he's well aware, but super busy this week |
03:11 | slef | and see if it's fixed without retesting |
03:12 | super busy is the new normal | |
03:12 | wizzyrea | ;) |
03:12 | slef | speaking of which, I'll be back in a few hours |
03:13 | parting thought: does the low turnout mean that community participation is insufficiently rewarded at the moment? | |
03:13 | wizzyrea | bug 6326 |
03:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6326 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Mail not going out from Wiki |
03:14 | wizzyrea | it seems lower just after a release |
03:14 | slef | parting thought 2: slutwalktoronto.com ??? |
03:14 | rangi | i think its more there isnt a lot to talk about at the moment |
03:15 | wizzyrea | ?! |
03:15 | ohh | |
03:15 | rangi | my thought is that cop is a dbag |
03:15 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
03:16 | rhcl | slutwalklawrence++ |
03:16 | wizzyrea | at all stars, right? |
03:16 | rhcl | huh, what's All Stars? |
03:16 | wizzyrea | with wifi |
03:17 | mtj | slef: i'm prepping the launch of my new website as we speak... manwhorestrut.co.nz |
03:17 | wizzyrea | i don't kno whether to laugh or clap |
03:17 | or both | |
03:17 | mtj | ... or strut! |
03:17 | Oak | do both |
03:17 | Brooke | heh |
03:18 | the things I return to when I mess with that hijeous table. | |
03:19 | rhcl | time for me beddy-bye |
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03:52 | Brooke | right |
03:52 | actually sleepay | |
03:52 | night #koha | |
03:52 | rangi | cya Brooke |
03:52 | thanks for chairing | |
03:53 | Brooke | only thing I can contrib |
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04:01 | wizzyrea | @later tell nengard ping me when you have a chance re: identi.ca login :) |
04:01 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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04:32 | pianohacker | all right. good night, all |
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05:06 | cait | hi koha |
05:06 | Space_Librarian | hey cait |
05:06 | cait | hi Space_Librarian |
05:06 | :) | |
05:07 | Space_Librarian | ;) |
05:22 | cait | oh |
05:23 | meeting at 4pm today for me - that's evil for nz, isn't it? | |
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05:26 | hyj | hi everybody |
05:27 | could anyone tell me how to uninstall koha from debian | |
05:29 | cait | or did I miss it already? |
05:29 | * cait | is now confused |
05:30 | cait | ok, obviously I did |
05:34 | hyj | hello, could anyone tell me how to uninstall koha |
05:34 | eythian | hyj: how did you install it? |
05:35 | cait: yeah, you missed it | |
05:35 | cait | reading the logs now :( |
05:35 | hyj | I installed it from debian repository |
05:35 | cait | must be the first meeting in ages that I missed |
05:35 | 4 am not pm | |
05:35 | eythian | hyj: then "apt-get remove koha-common" |
05:36 | cait: they kicked you out of the project because you missed the meeting, btw ;) | |
05:36 | hyj | only this command needed |
05:36 | eythian | hyj: should be yeah |
05:36 | cait | eythian: :P |
05:37 | hyj | ok thanks eythian. I will try this command |
05:38 | eythian | g'luck |
05:38 | cait | eythian: this will not help you, I will still ask for the bug ;) |
05:38 | eythian | cait: can't, got to go to malaysia to attend a Koha workshop. |
05:38 | cait | excuses.... |
05:38 | wahanui | cait: Redundant ACLs. |
05:39 | cait | feel like this game is being repeated a lot |
05:40 | eythian | hehe |
05:40 | it does seem that way | |
05:40 | all I really need is a free time upgrade | |
05:44 | cait | we all do I think :( |
05:46 | excuse? | |
05:46 | wahanui | cait: struck by the Good Times virus |
05:51 | cait | eythian: how long will you be away? |
05:51 | eythian | dunno yet, probably about a week |
05:52 | thinking I might take a couple of days either before or after as a holiday and to visit friends there | |
05:54 | cait | cool |
05:54 | have fun :) | |
05:57 | eythian | I will, it's not until July though |
06:02 | cait | ok,now you have a problem - if it's in july - you need a new excuse |
06:02 | eythian | heh |
06:02 | I'm still working on a migration? | |
06:04 | wahanui: migration is <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with... | |
06:04 | wahanui | ...but migration is hard... |
06:04 | eythian | wahanui: migration is also <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with... |
06:04 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
06:04 | cait | ok, this will count for today... |
06:10 | will ask again tomorrow :) | |
06:10 | or perhaps I will give up asking you and create a very general accounts rewrite bu | |
06:10 | g | |
06:11 | and link everything to it I think you should solve :) | |
06:15 | eythian | haha |
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06:29 | cait | bonjour hdl |
06:29 | bbl | |
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06:37 | hyj | eythian: one more doubt. when I am rebuilding zebra I m getting a warning "index 'Record control number' not found in attsets" . how can i resolv it? |
06:38 | eythian | hmm. I'm not sure. |
06:38 | It means something, and someone here will probably know, but I can't remember what that is. | |
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08:14 | kf | hi #koha |
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09:07 | rangi | oh thats cool |
09:08 | http://catalogo.pusc.it/ | |
09:08 | nice link back to koha-community | |
09:08 | pusc++ | |
09:09 | cilea++ | |
09:11 | kf | pusc++ |
09:17 | hdl++ | |
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10:26 | kf | hdl++ |
10:27 | hdl: I think it works - inserting the sql gave me some strange behaviour (some links not working), I am creating it from scratch now :) | |
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11:03 | kf | IT WORKS! |
11:03 | that had to be said :) | |
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11:57 | * paul_p | just realize he missed the meeting (but it was 4AM in France, so I wouldn't have been here anyway !) |
11:58 | paul_p | hello chris_n ! |
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12:02 | conan | good morning all |
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12:09 | kf | hi chris_n |
12:09 | I missed the meeting too | |
12:09 | accidently, but sleeping was probably the better idea | |
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12:19 | conan | I feel like I need one extra hour sleep |
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13:03 | Cybermon | hi all. |
13:05 | oleonard | Hi Cybermon |
13:05 | Cybermon | how are you |
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13:25 | Cybermon | anybody here ? |
13:26 | oleonard | Yes Cybermon do you have a question? |
13:26 | Cybermon | yesw |
13:27 | when i update patron data via opac section. but not updated | |
13:27 | oleonard | Submitting an update from the OPAC simply emails the Koha administrator a list of the changes. It does not actually update the database. |
13:28 | Cybermon | it mean not possible this moment ? |
13:28 | oleonard | From the manual, "Patrons can edit their details in this form and click 'Submit Changes' to have their edits sent to the library for review before their record is updated." |
13:29 | Cybermon | i see |
13:29 | oleonard | A librarian must be the one to actually input the changes. |
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13:29 | Cybermon | could you provide me the manual link ? |
13:30 | oleonard | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]518#opacmydetails |
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13:34 | Cybermon | i have 3.2.7 |
13:37 | oleonard | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]937#opacmydetails |
13:37 | The same. | |
13:37 | Cybermon | thanks olenard! |
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13:39 | Cybermon | 'Submit Changes' to have their edits sent to the library for review before their record is updated. where located review before ? |
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13:39 | oleonard | An email is sent to the Koha administrator |
13:40 | Cybermon | i see. |
13:40 | maybe, I made wrong SMTP configuration during installation. | |
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13:40 | Cybermon | can i fix smtp configuration ? |
13:41 | oleonard | I'm sure you can, but I don't know how :) |
13:41 | Cybermon | :-) |
13:42 | let's search in forum | |
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13:49 | wizzyrea | put away the duct tape, I think I'm here to stay :P |
13:50 | kf | hehe |
13:52 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.0 is now available | Next IRC meeting 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org/ | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
13:53 | wizzyrea | meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
13:53 | meeting? | |
13:53 | wahanui | meeting is, like, 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
13:53 | wizzyrea | Next IRC meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
13:53 | next meeting? | |
13:53 | wahanui | rumour has it next meeting is Apr 5 |
13:53 | wizzyrea | forget next meeting |
13:53 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot next meeting |
13:53 | wizzyrea | Next IRC meeting 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
13:53 | Next meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 | |
13:53 | next meeting? | |
13:53 | wahanui | next meeting is, like, 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
13:53 | wizzyrea | there we go |
13:54 | oleonard | Hey, a meeting I'll be at! |
13:54 | ...because I'll be here anyway, and it'll be hard not to notice. | |
13:55 | Wolfram Alpha, sorry I only visit you to find out when IRC meetings are. | |
14:00 | kf | hehe |
14:00 | me too | |
14:00 | but got up too late for the meeting today :( | |
14:23 | slef | yeah yeah excuses excuses ;-) |
14:23 | Cybermon | bye all |
14:25 | kf | excuse |
14:25 | wahanui | kf: A star wars satellite accidently blew up the WAN. |
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14:25 | jcamins | wahanui: oh is that what it is? |
14:25 | wahanui | jcamins: i haven't a clue |
14:25 | kf | is rangi really writing mails this time of the day? |
14:26 | rangi | yes, because rangi is awake |
14:26 | kf | and why is rangi awake? |
14:26 | ;) | |
14:26 | rangi | because kahu has a toy, that when its battery went flat |
14:26 | started yelling 'A B C ...' | |
14:26 | * jcamins | laughs |
14:26 | rangi | and waking up everyone |
14:26 | kf | lol |
14:26 | wizzyrea | did you have to scrounge up a screwdriver to get the battery out? |
14:27 | rangi | it was that, or kick it into submission |
14:27 | wizzyrea | because that would be the infuriating bit for me :P |
14:27 | rangi | whcih i would have done if kahu wasnt watching :) |
14:27 | wizzyrea | or put it outside in the trunk of the car |
14:27 | kf | walls are great for that too |
14:28 | oleonard | My wife freaked out last night because a dish towel was crawling across the floor at her. Turns out there was a little toy under it. |
14:28 | wizzyrea | lol! |
14:28 | rangi | heh, much better than the alternative |
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14:29 | oleonard | Very close to the alternative. It was one of these: http://www.hexbug.com/ |
14:29 | rangi | speaking of toys, the fish has lasted through both boys |
14:29 | oleonard | :D |
14:29 | kf | the fish? |
14:29 | rangi | kf: oleonard sent a very cool wooden fish for kahu when he was very very little |
14:29 | wizzyrea | those hexbug things are cool |
14:30 | kf | oleonard++ |
14:30 | rangi | ok i should go back to sleep, on site with a client at 9am |
14:31 | * wizzyrea | purposefully ignores rangi, as being too interesting means he'll be awake longer |
14:31 | oleonard | Yes, the answer is always go back to sleep |
14:31 | rangi | night :) |
14:41 | kf | nengard: around? |
14:43 | nengard | yes |
14:43 | sort of | |
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14:46 | kf | ah |
14:46 | writing you a mail | |
14:46 | gmail ok? | |
14:47 | * Oak | is here |
14:49 | nengard | yes |
14:49 | gmail | |
14:49 | a-ok | |
14:49 | kf | sent |
14:49 | my serials problem | |
14:49 | hdl solved it :) | |
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14:57 | rhcl | OK, so when a patron looses a book, and they come in and pay for it, the staff marks the item as lost and paid for. |
14:57 | Is there no mechanism to automaticallly notify the selector for that type of item that it's now out of the collection and they should consider buying a replacement copy? | |
14:58 | wizzyrea | not that I'm aware of, but that would be a cool feature you should add it as an enhancement bug :) |
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14:59 | rhcl | I was trying to think how such a process might work. There isn't, that I'm aware of, anything in an item record that indicates who the selector is for that item type. |
14:59 | jcamins | rhcl: weekly report, usually. |
15:02 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6328] Fine in days does not work <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6328> |
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15:16 | adnc | rangi, hello. is there a estimation when koha 3.4 will be available in packaged version? |
15:18 | oleonard | Too early for rangi adnc |
15:18 | adnc | oleonard, ohh |
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16:01 | cait | hi #koha |
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16:59 | * Oak | was here |
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17:49 | briceSanc | hello all |
17:55 | slef | hi briceSanc |
17:55 | cait | hi slef and briceSanc |
17:55 | briceSanc | Do you konow if Koha 3.2.x has this functionnality : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=3506#c2 ? |
17:55 | huginn | 04Bug 3506: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Block checkout of items with pending holds (allow supervisor override) |
17:56 | jcamins | briceSanc: it does not. |
17:56 | slef | I don't think that code will be in it because it's for the PTFS fork. |
17:57 | you could try porting the patch from the PTFS fork and I would thank you for it | |
17:58 | briceSanc | slef, =) |
17:58 | Is there an equivalent of this functionnality on Koha 3.2.x ? | |
17:58 | cait | I am not sure I like the idea of supervisor overrides |
17:58 | jcamins | cait: they're an important feature for US libraries. |
17:59 | cait | ok |
17:59 | never saw that here | |
17:59 | sekjal | cait: we were talking about this amongst ourselves yesterday |
17:59 | slef | porting will have become harder over time because PTFS don't seem to update their Koha any more |
17:59 | cait | sekjal: perhaps something that needs to be flexible |
17:59 | jcamins | cait: in a lot of universities, circ desks are staffed almost entirely by student workers, who are not allowed to handle money for legal reasons. |
17:59 | cait | having a pref / permissions |
17:59 | jcamins | So what we really need is a sudo function. :) |
17:59 | sekjal | supervisor override comes from another ILS system, so it's expected by some libraries migrating from that |
18:00 | jcamins said it | |
18:00 | cait | yep |
18:00 | I think I know where it comes from | |
18:00 | we tested that for a while | |
18:00 | sekjal | something AJAX-y to temporarily change the login |
18:00 | briceSanc | slef, i need to work on this but the customer need to approve the work before releasing... |
18:01 | slef | sekjal: AJAX :-( why not a sudo function? |
18:01 | briceSanc: yeah I know that problem | |
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18:02 | sekjal | slef: I'm thinking the elevating of permissions should not cause a whole page reload; using AJAX would give us a slick way to implement this in the staff client |
18:03 | the backend would still be based in C4/Auth.pm, involving the storage of a temporary login (with expiration) | |
18:05 | slef | sekjal: # don't fear the reload |
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18:07 | sekjal | slef: I'm also worried about making sure we wound up after the reload with the same message on screen that prompted it |
18:08 | that seems like it could introduce complexity to the coding.... though whether moreso than AJAX, I cannot say | |
18:08 | * slef | mutters something about continuations and wanders back to his coding |
18:10 | yhager | Hi, I have a (corrupted?) record that generates the following error on search: Error: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2384. (koha 3.2.5) |
18:11 | What's the best way to handle that, and is there a way to avoid such a problem? | |
18:14 | rangi | yhager: for newer versions of koha (not sure if it will be in 3.2.8 but is in 3.4.0 ) better error handling for corrupt records was added |
18:15 | for now, i think the only way to find hte corrupt record is to add a warn to the search code | |
18:15 | that warns the biblionumber | |
18:16 | yhager | rangi: ok, I'll guess I need to upgrade to 3.4 then.. I was waiting for 3.4.x (x>0) actually.. |
18:16 | rangi | then hopefully you can find the corrupt record |
18:16 | yhager: one other option | |
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18:16 | rangi | yhager: yeah if you can wait to 3.4.1 i would |
18:17 | yhager | I only have one record like that at the moment, and we are still catalouging, so it's not urgent |
18:17 | rangi | right, maybe add the warns to opac-search.pl |
18:17 | and see if you can find the corrupt one | |
18:18 | yhager | rangi: i know exactly the name of the book, but then what do I do? delete directly from the DB? |
18:18 | rangi | or if you have an idea which one it might be, take a look in the db |
18:18 | yhager: id have a look at the record first, biblioitems table | |
18:18 | look at the marc and marcxml columns | |
18:19 | yuo may be able to spot what is wrong | |
18:19 | deleting would be an option, but you might be able to update the row instead (its most likely something wrong in the marcxml) | |
18:26 | yhager | rangi: marcxml is a valid xml, so I don't know what kind of corruption I am looking for. Here is the record: http://pastebin.ca/2056950 |
18:27 | rangi | hmm that does look fine to me |
18:27 | if you try and edit the record in koha, does it show up ok? | |
18:27 | jcamins | yhager: did you try reindexing? |
18:28 | rangi | oh good point jcamins |
18:28 | yhager | rangi: no, it doesn't show. How do I reindex? |
18:28 | rangi | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -x |
18:28 | id try that | |
18:32 | yhager | done, still, I get the same error when searching the catalog |
18:33 | rangi | and when you edit the record, it shows up blank? |
18:33 | you may have to munge the url to get to an edit screen (edit a good record, and then change the biblionumber) | |
18:36 | yhager | rangi: the edit screen loads with no error. It shows the record.. |
18:38 | maybe my assumption that I know which record is it is wrong | |
18:38 | rangi | its beginning to feel that way |
18:45 | rhcl | @seen wizzyrea |
18:45 | huginn | rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 46 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> not that I'm aware of, but that would be a cool feature you should add it as an enhancement bug :) |
18:45 | yhager | ok, it's strange. When I set the url to show the record, it shows fine, including edit. When I search for the ISBN, I get that error |
18:45 | wizzyrea | i'm here yo ;) |
18:46 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea. :D |
18:46 | wizzyrea | heyas |
18:46 | rangi | yhager: hmmm it does feel like the index eh? no weird messages when you reindexed? |
18:46 | yhager: if you edit it and save, then run | |
18:47 | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -v | |
18:47 | it should just index that one record | |
18:47 | rhcl | 't release to the world. How hard is it in Jing to blur the patron info? |
18:47 | rangi | maybe will spot anything weird |
18:47 | wizzyrea | difficult, after the fact |
18:47 | unless you have pro | |
18:47 | if you have jing pro you can dump it into imobie | |
18:48 | or another similar video editor | |
18:48 | and do it there | |
18:48 | imo*vie | |
18:48 | what I do is have test patrons and test bibs | |
18:48 | * jcamins | thought imobie sounded more fun. It's a computer screen with no back. :) |
18:49 | wizzyrea | then you're never mucking with real data |
18:49 | rhcl | yep |
18:49 | wizzyrea | we use superheroes and xmen |
18:49 | :P | |
18:49 | (and their fictional families_ | |
18:49 | yhager | hmm.. I actually see a couple of permission denied errors from rebuild_zebra.pl.. Should it be ran as root, or the koha user? |
18:49 | rangi | ohh |
18:50 | it should be run as the user who runs the cron jobs and the user that zebrasrv runs as | |
18:50 | normally that is the koha user | |
18:50 | sudo -u koha rebuild_zebra etc | |
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18:51 | rangi | so id check what user is doing the cron job, and what user is running zebrasrv and when you manually rebuild run it as that user |
18:51 | yhager | rangi: yeah, that's what I did. I don't have a zebrasrv process in the system, and /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios is owned by root, so the koha user cannot work there |
18:52 | sekjal | wizzyrea: just a note, we've updated our public demo at intranet.bywatersolutions.com to current HEAD, so if you'd like to update k-c.org, it's now closer to 3.4 than 3.2 |
18:52 | wizzyrea | kk |
18:52 | sekjal | thanks! :) |
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18:52 | rangi | hmm no zebrasrv runnin? |
18:52 | wizzyrea | u got it :) |
18:52 | yhager | rangi: no zebrasrv, and no cron jobs. did I miss an important part of the installation? |
18:53 | rangi | you must be running nozebra then? |
18:53 | wizzyrea | right and you know what sekjal |
18:53 | I meant to remove that lil blurb ages ago | |
18:53 | in favor of the entire page of demos | |
18:53 | rangi | in which case, my advice is switch to using zebra, and look in the instructions for the part about setting up zebra |
18:53 | wizzyrea | :) |
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18:53 | wizzyrea | hi skushner |
18:54 | skushner | hi wizzy |
18:54 | yhager | rangi: yes, IIRC, I run nozebra. How do I switch? |
18:54 | actually, why should I switch? what does it mean? | |
18:55 | rangi | nozebra has been officially deprecated for 3.4, and is pretty much unsupported for 3.2 |
18:55 | yhager | rangi: good enough reason for me :) |
18:55 | rangi | it means it uses mysql tables for oing the search |
18:55 | skushner | when r we going to solr |
18:55 | rangi | skushner: not touching that question with a bargepole |
18:55 | yhager: for now you could try a rebuild_nozebra.pl | |
18:55 | yhager | ok, I'll set up zebra then. Thanks. |
18:55 | wizzyrea | probably when the dev is made to make using solr an option instead of a requirement, like we did with zebra/nozebra |
18:56 | just sayin | |
18:56 | yhager | rangi: same command line switches? |
18:56 | * wizzyrea | touches it, runs |
18:56 | rangi | yhager: i cant recall, i think running it with none will prompt you |
18:57 | yhager: and with the switch to zebra is setting up zebra then toggling the syspref, so you can always toggle the syspref back too | |
18:57 | yhager | rangi: ok, great. Thanks for your help! |
18:58 | oh! rebuild_nozebra.pl fixed it | |
18:58 | rangi | right so we were on the right track, it was a bad index |
18:58 | zebra is faster and more powerful | |
18:58 | wizzyrea | zebra's better, but yay it's fixed! |
18:59 | rangi | but now you have time to set up properly and test :) |
18:59 | jcamins++ | |
18:59 | for thnking of reindexing | |
19:00 | ok breakfasting the animals, i mean children, bbiab | |
19:01 | yhager | Yeah, I'll set up zebra. Thx guys! |
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19:56 | rangi | busy bus today |
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20:01 | rhcl | raining? |
20:02 | ibeardslee | was hosing down last night .. what a racket |
20:02 | rangi | threatening to |
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20:03 | rangi | yeah it sure was |
20:06 | talljoy | I have a Koha install question. |
20:06 | adnc | any news when koh 3.4 will be available for debian packaged? |
20:07 | talljoy | I've gotten to the 1.4 of the Install of Koha Debian. The command install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh gives me the error message of "no such file or directory". What am I missing here? |
20:07 | FYI this is for Koha 3.4 | |
20:09 | wizzyrea | ah |
20:09 | can you do a pwd? | |
20:09 | on your command line? | |
20:09 | talljoy | |
20:09 | talljoy | I'm the root user at the moment |
20:09 | wizzyrea | that's ok, what does 'pwd' tell you? |
20:10 | (print working directory) | |
20:10 | talljoy | it tells me /root |
20:10 | wizzyrea | aha |
20:10 | ok | |
20:10 | what directory did you download koha into? | |
20:10 | talljoy | this one. when I list the files...there is the tarball |
20:10 | wizzyrea | (usually something like kohaclone) |
20:10 | talljoy | i'm guessing i should move it! |
20:11 | wizzyrea | for a test install that's ok |
20:11 | have you untar'd the file? | |
20:11 | talljoy | not yet. |
20:11 | wizzyrea | do that first :) |
20:11 | talljoy | might be a good place to do that! Any suggestions on doing it in a specific directory? |
20:11 | wizzyrea | tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz |
20:11 | for a test install right? | |
20:12 | indradg | hi... anyone here using the spine labels generated by Koha? |
20:12 | talljoy | yes |
20:12 | wizzyrea | yep, that'll be fine |
20:12 | talljoy | okay. let me pound away on that and try again. Thx wizzyrea |
20:12 | wizzyrea | sure thing :) |
20:13 | indradg | wizzyrea, at your place, do you generate the spine labels from Koha? |
20:14 | wizzyrea | some of our libraries do |
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20:16 | indradg | wizzyrea, great! I could use a tip... i have a situation, apart from the date accessioned range, I need to support a range select based on accession nos.. where should i start tinkering around to add that feature... any idea? |
20:19 | the label-item-search.pl or the search.tmpl or simply via IntranetUserJS using a bit of jQuery? | |
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20:20 | nengard | howdy margo |
20:21 | and cait | |
20:21 | margo | hi nengard |
20:21 | i have some stupid questions | |
20:21 | cait | hi nengard and margo :) |
20:21 | margo | hey cait! |
20:21 | cait | there are no stupid questions :) |
20:21 | margo | lol |
20:21 | i'm working with circ on the fast add framework | |
20:22 | nengard | which you found a bug with!! :( |
20:22 | hehe | |
20:22 | margo | yes, delightful |
20:22 | anyway, after the fast add part, do we still have to add an item? | |
20:22 | nengard | yes |
20:22 | margo | even though we've put in a barcode? |
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20:22 | nengard | and you can make the item 'fast' too |
20:22 | wizzyrea | indradg: that's an interesting question, chris_n is really the expert on labels |
20:22 | nengard | the barcode is on the item record |
20:23 | where are you putting it? | |
20:23 | margo | in the fast add |
20:23 | nengard | in the bib? |
20:23 | i mean what field are you putting it in | |
20:23 | margo | lol 952p, i mean |
20:23 | nengard | oh that's the item |
20:23 | so you're adding an item already | |
20:23 | you're all set | |
20:23 | wizzyrea | re: fast add |
20:23 | margo | it's not showing up |
20:23 | nengard | btw - tutorial video: http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/file/4018939/ |
20:24 | margo | the item or barcode |
20:24 | nengard | oh ... hmmmm |
20:24 | wizzyrea | nm |
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20:24 | indradg | chris_n, how do I add the option for a accession no. range into the item search for labels? |
20:24 | nengard | okay walk me through your steps margo and i'll see if i can find where it's breaking - or is this on a system we have access to? |
20:24 | indradg | i mean... what are my options here... the label-item-search.pl or the search.tmpl or simply via IntranetUserJS using a bit of jQuery? |
20:25 | margo | did we give you a password when you were here? |
20:30 | wizzyrea | I don't think jquery will do it |
20:30 | indradg | |
20:30 | probably there will have to be some modification of both the template and the script, but I haven't looked at it. 3.4 lets you do batches of scanned in barcodes, which is neat | |
20:31 | almost as helpful as a range of dates :) | |
20:31 | if you have the books handy | |
20:31 | indradg | wizzyrea, unfortunately i've to work with 3.2.7 |
20:31 | wizzyrea | aha, and no chance of updating? |
20:31 | indradg | not rightaway |
20:32 | its a govt client.. which wants to play safe... | |
20:32 | wizzyrea | :) understandable |
20:32 | indradg | once 3.4.x is out for a quarter they would |
20:32 | wimommy | is there a way to delete multiple holds on different titles at one time? |
20:32 | wizzyrea | you could take a look at the current version and try to cherry pick the batch barcode bit |
20:33 | indradg | i think i'll try that wizzyrea |
20:33 | wizzyrea | wimommy: i'm not sure what you mean exactly |
20:33 | wimommy: do you mean item A has 6 holds, item B has 10 holds | |
20:33 | you want a way to delete all 16 holds? | |
20:33 | at one time? | |
20:33 | wimommy | I have a list of different titles that are on hold. With the end of the school year, I want to delete those holds. Is there a way to do this instead of going doing it individually on each title? |
20:33 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
20:33 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
20:33 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
20:34 | wimommy | wizzyrea: I'm on v. 3.01 |
20:34 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
20:35 | * rangi | waves from the coffee shop |
20:35 | * wizzyrea | waves at rangi |
20:35 | rangi | 20 mins til meeting |
20:35 | not in koha wimommy certainly not in really old koha either :) | |
20:35 | wizzyrea | wimommy: I don't think there's a way to do that through the UI |
20:36 | rangi | but you could do it with a report to get a list, then some sql in the db |
20:36 | wimommy | got it! just had to ask! :D |
20:36 | rangi | you could add an enhancement request at bugs.koha-community.org |
20:36 | wizzyrea | yea, it might be a cool feature :) |
20:36 | wimommy | I thought of that! Thanks! |
20:36 | rangi | given a list of biblionumbers, cancel all holds |
20:37 | I think ppl would use it | |
20:37 | wizzyrea | bib#'s, barcodes |
20:37 | wimommy | oh no, what did I start! :) |
20:37 | wizzyrea | it's always what happens when ppl have good ideas :) |
20:37 | rangi | well nothing yet |
20:37 | if u file a bug | |
20:37 | u will have :) | |
20:37 | wizzyrea | ^^ what he said |
20:38 | rangi | otherwise this will scroll out of our brains :) |
20:38 | wizzyrea | or hell, if you're at the end of the school year, you probably want to cancel *all* holds |
20:38 | it's the HOLD NUKE button! | |
20:38 | oh oh no wait | |
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20:39 | wimommy | Wizzyrea, are you from Kansas? I think we talked at KudoCon in Madison. |
20:39 | wizzyrea | cancel all holds and notify the patron via email! |
20:39 | I am :) | |
20:39 | rangi | I think a list is safer |
20:39 | that list can be all of course | |
20:39 | which u get from a report | |
20:40 | wimommy | yeah! Thanks for your help. Great visiting with you then. |
20:40 | rangi | it could do a couple things |
20:40 | nuke | |
20:40 | or suspend | |
20:40 | wizzyrea | ya thanks for popping in :) |
20:40 | do file a bug, it seems like what you want might be useful | |
20:41 | wimommy | Couldn't find it on the manual so came in here and asked! Thanks for your help everybody! End of the day, the rain is pouring, and it's time to go home! |
20:42 | wizzyrea | wimommy: before you go... which institution are you from? |
20:42 | (to help me remember you) | |
20:42 | wimommy | D.C. Everest, central Wisconsin (Wausau area) |
20:42 | wizzyrea | Aha! yes, now I remember :) |
20:43 | rangi | ok I best get walking |
20:43 | back later | |
20:43 | wimommy | night everyone - hope to pop in here again! |
20:43 | wizzyrea | thanks :) |
20:43 | later! | |
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20:51 | cait | night all |
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21:02 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha |
21:02 | slef | evening:) |
21:09 | wizzyrea | mornin Space_Librarian |
21:11 | rhcl | afternoon |
21:12 | talljoy | good day |
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22:30 | druthb | o/ |
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22:52 | pianohacker | Good afternoon |
22:55 | Space_Librarian | afternoon pianohacker |
22:55 | pianohacker | Hello, Space_Librarian |
23:01 | druthb | hi, pianohacker and Space_Librarian and Irma. :D |
23:01 | Space_Librarian | hey druthb, Irma :) |
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23:40 | adnc | I've changed the barcodes of my book items in the database table items.barcode. if I look into the items in koha i see that they still have the old barcode numbers but when i edit them than they get the new one |
23:40 | is there a way updating them all in once? | |
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23:44 | pianohacker | adnc: what version of Koha are you on? |
23:44 | adnc | pianohacker, 3.2 |
23:45 | pianohacker | all right, good, we can work with that |
23:45 | So, Koha 3.2 stores item information in two places for every item; a row in the items table and a 952 tag on the marc biblio | |
23:46 | adnc | ok |
23:46 | pianohacker | You've changed it in the items table, which affects some things, but not in the marc, which affects others |
23:46 | fortunately, there's a way to get them back in sync | |
23:46 | adnc | cool |
23:46 | pianohacker | Lemme find it real quick |
23:49 | adnc | sure |
23:51 | pianohacker | Okay. If you run misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl --run-update, with KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB as normal, then the marc biblio will be brought back in sync, and all shall be well |
23:57 | adnc | pianohacker, that did something |
23:57 | pianohacker | The right something? |
23:58 | adnc: If you're worried, you can post the output to http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
23:59 | pastebot | Someone at 77.20.244.49 pasted "kutup: ... processed 100 recor" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/43 |
23:59 | adnc | thats mine |
23:59 | pianohacker, I'm just checking if everything is ok |
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