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| 01:20 | gmcharlt | bouncy hotel wireless |
| 01:21 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:21 | so i have a guy at work who an xml/xpath/xslt/stuff with x in it guru | |
| 01:22 | who is going to do some work optimising our xslt files for speed | |
| 01:22 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 01:22 | rangi | do you have any chunky/fairly complete marcxml files he can use for testing MARC21 |
| 01:22 | ? | |
| 01:23 | im sure i can hunt some down, just thought id ask | |
| 01:23 | gmcharlt | rangi: as much as you want |
| 01:23 | how many records? | |
| 01:24 | rangi | 100 would be plenty |
| 01:24 | gmcharlt | so few? ;) |
| 01:24 | sec | |
| 01:25 | rangi | cool |
| 01:36 | gmcharlt | rangi: http://librarypolice.com/~gmc/sample_bib.xml |
| 01:36 | rangi | yay thanks |
| 01:49 | im working on bug 6296 at the moment | |
| 01:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6296 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow authentication to Koha via PKI / x.509 certificates |
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| 03:19 | AmitG | heya chris |
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| 03:21 | rangi | hi AmitG |
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| 03:28 | rangi | ahh |
| 03:29 | druthb: get larryb to set him up a bip setup ;-) | |
| 03:35 | * druthb | ain't-a gonna add anything to larryb's list right now. he's a busy boy. |
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| 03:43 | bg | hi there sorry for bouncing so much |
| 03:43 | * bg | :p |
| 03:43 | rangi | s'ok |
| 03:44 | remind me to set you up bip when im over there though :-) | |
| 03:44 | bg | rangi++ |
| 03:44 | what you don't like watching me bounce around :) | |
| 03:44 | * bg | needs to lay off the red bull |
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| 03:45 | bg | hi |
| 03:45 | wahanui | hey, bg |
| 03:45 | bg | rangi++ |
| 03:45 | what you don't like watching me bounce around | |
| 03:45 | bg needs to lay off the red bull | |
| 03:46 | druthb | wahanui: bg? |
| 03:46 | wahanui | bg is awesome! |
| 03:46 | bg | wahanui: druthb? |
| 03:46 | wahanui | it has been said that druthb is lighting-talking about this channel |
| 03:46 | druthb | wahanui: forget druthb |
| 03:46 | wahanui | druthb: I forgot druthb |
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| 04:02 | druthb | @karma druthb |
| 04:02 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. |
| 04:02 | druthb | yoiks |
| 04:03 | @karma sekjal | |
| 04:03 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 92 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 91. |
| 04:04 | druthb | he's uncatchable! |
| 04:05 | * Space_Librarian | waves at druthb |
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| 04:05 | Space_Librarian | How was your fantastic talk? |
| 04:06 | eythian | druthb: ah yes. It wasn't videoed, perchance? |
| 04:06 | druthb | not that I am aware of, eythian. |
| 04:06 | eythian | bummer, I would like to have seen it. |
| 04:07 | druthb | Space_Librarian: it went way, way better than I would have thought possible. |
| 04:07 | Space_Librarian | told ya! |
| 04:07 | :) | |
| 04:07 | sekjal | druthb++ |
| 04:07 | Space_Librarian | druthb ++ |
| 04:09 | * druthb | bows humbly |
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| 04:15 | rangi | http://www.softwarefreedom.org[…]orate-Entanglemt/ |
| 04:15 | very interesting talk | |
| 04:16 | (richard fontana is legal counsel at redhat, used to be at software freedom law centre) | |
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| 06:11 | NurAhammad | I have to add a logo in my opac |
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| 07:22 | kf | morning |
| 07:24 | snail | evening |
| 07:28 | kf | hi snail |
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| 07:46 | rangi | hi all |
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| 07:55 | kf | hi rangi |
| 07:55 | * kf | sends rangi cookies |
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| 07:57 | rangi | thanks kf |
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| 08:18 | kf | my ubuntu is broken again. hmpf. |
| 08:18 | grub> ... | |
| 08:31 | AmitG | heya kf ;) |
| 08:31 | kf | hi AmitG |
| 08:35 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 08:35 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 08:35 | wahanui | it has been said that magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 08:36 | rangi | heh |
| 08:36 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 08:36 | ...and #koha | |
| 08:36 | kf | hi magnus |
| 08:36 | e | |
| 08:36 | magnuse | guten tag kf |
| 08:41 | i had a strange idea - i think it was just as i was waking up this morning | |
| 08:42 | rangi | kf: in bugzilla, do you see a saved search, passed qa ? |
| 08:42 | magnuse | create a game in the intranet where librarians can see a random picture of a patron and guess the name from a list of say 5 names from the database of patrons... |
| 08:42 | rangi | heheh |
| 08:43 | magnuse | something to while away the hours on a quite late night shift in the library |
| 08:43 | rangi | something kinda like that |
| 08:43 | was a random book thing | |
| 08:43 | on the opac | |
| 08:43 | hit a button and it takes you to a random record | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | yeah, that could be cool |
| 08:44 | or match keywords to book title | |
| 08:44 | kf | rangi: chekcing |
| 08:44 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:44 | magnuse | i hear gamification is going to be a big thing... ;-) |
| 08:44 | rangi | :) |
| 08:44 | * snail | looks forward to sequins... |
| 08:44 | rangi | anything that leads people to find things they may never find in other ways |
| 08:45 | is good | |
| 08:45 | kf | no |
| 08:45 | rangi | darn |
| 08:45 | magnuse | rangi: yup! |
| 08:45 | * kf | sniffs |
| 08:46 | magnuse | i can see "failed qa" |
| 08:46 | rangi | ive yet to figure out how to make a public saved search |
| 08:47 | magnuse | i can see one from you rangi, a couple from kf etc |
| 08:47 | rangi | and needs signoff? |
| 08:47 | magnuse | yep |
| 08:48 | rangi | how about now? |
| 08:48 | wahanui | now is there a way I can delete everything item in bib and start from scratch? |
| 08:48 | kf | now I see it :) |
| 08:48 | rangi | cool |
| 08:48 | kf | forget now |
| 08:48 | wahanui | kf: I forgot now |
| 08:48 | rangi | bug workflow? |
| 08:49 | bug workflow is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow | |
| 08:49 | bug workflow? | |
| 08:49 | wahanui | i think bug workflow is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 08:49 | rangi | there we go |
| 08:49 | magnuse | yay |
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| 08:59 | mib_sun | hi everybody |
| 09:01 | magnuse | hiya mib_sun |
| 09:04 | mib_sun | I am struggling with a problem in adding authority records and bibliographic files in koha |
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| 09:04 | mib_sun | Could someone help me?? |
| 09:08 | magnuse | "Recent Updates to the EU Associates Operating Agreement" https://affiliate-program.amaz[…]o/whatschangedmay |
| 09:08 | kf | my ubuntu is alive! |
| 09:08 | magnuse | kf: yay!!! |
| 09:09 | mib_sun: it's hard to tell if anyone can help you up front... ;-) if you describe the problem a little bit more you will see if anyone is able to respond | |
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| 09:18 | kf | oups |
| 09:20 | mib_sun | kf: I am new to linux. where I had to run this command? |
| 09:21 | Is any option there in Koha interface to rebuild zebra? | |
| 09:28 | kf | no, not in the interface |
| 09:28 | which version are you using? | |
| 09:28 | and do you use zebra? | |
| 09:28 | mib_sun | koha 3.02.06 |
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| 09:29 | kf | hi fmarier_ :) |
| 09:30 | mib_sun | yes |
| 09:30 | rangi | oh its fmarier_ :) |
| 09:30 | mib_sun | i m using zebra |
| 09:30 | * fmarier_ | waves |
| 09:30 | kf | ok |
| 09:30 | and your search for normal bibliographic records works? | |
| 09:31 | * fmarier_ | is looking for the git repo where the koha-common packaging script come from |
| 09:32 | rangi | ahh |
| 09:32 | its in the main repo | |
| 09:32 | fmarier_ | ah, that's far too simple! |
| 09:32 | rangi | so git.koha-community.org |
| 09:33 | fmarier_ | so simple i didn't even think of looking there :) |
| 09:33 | rangi | :) |
| 09:33 | under debian/ | |
| 09:33 | fmarier_ | yup, i've got it, it's under /home/francois/code/koha/debian/scripts/ :) |
| 09:34 | rangi | build-git-snapshot |
| 09:34 | is what i use to build a package from a git checkout | |
| 09:34 | you need pbuilder installed | |
| 09:34 | but after that, it just works :) | |
| 09:36 | mib_sun | kf: search for normal bibliographic records also not working.. |
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| 09:36 | kf | how have you installed koha? |
| 09:39 | mib_sun | I have used the package in the debian repository |
| 09:40 | kf | hm. I am not sure how you have to do it with the packages |
| 09:40 | rangi | which package, koha-common or koha? |
| 09:41 | mib_sun | koha |
| 09:42 | rangi | right, in that case you have to set up the cron jobs and zebra to run by yourself |
| 09:42 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Debian#Everyone | |
| 09:42 | see in the | |
| 09:42 | Wait | |
| 09:42 | bit | |
| 09:42 | koha is similar, but provides a single site. At the moment however, this site can't be managed by the tools that come with the package, and so you will need to set up the cron jobs and zebra for it yourself. See bug 5071 for plans to fix this. | |
| 09:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5071 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, NEW , Make the 'koha' package set things up so that zebra etc. just work |
| 09:46 | magnuse | what's the status of koha-common and languages other than english? i seem to remember there was an issue there? |
| 09:46 | rangi | if you build the templates before you build the package, they install fine |
| 09:47 | otherwise you have to manually copy them into place | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | so i would have to build my own package? |
| 09:48 | rangi | for now yes, the plan is to have koha-common |
| 09:48 | and then | |
| 09:48 | koha-l8n-nb-no | |
| 09:48 | or something similair | |
| 09:48 | but again, time | |
| 09:48 | :) | |
| 09:48 | magnuse | yeah, i know ;-) |
| 09:49 | so would koha-l8n-nb-no be a package or a command? | |
| 09:49 | rangi | a package |
| 09:49 | * magnuse | is slightly confused... |
| 09:49 | magnuse | ah, so there would have to be one package per language? |
| 09:49 | rangi | there wouldnt have to be |
| 09:49 | but it makes sense for there to be | |
| 09:49 | then you just install the ones you want | |
| 09:50 | magnuse | so if i want norwegian, danish and swedish i would install all three? |
| 09:50 | rangi | yep |
| 09:51 | magnuse | would i first install koha-common and then the "language packages"? |
| 09:51 | i wish i could take a week "off" and just figure all that stuff out... | |
| 09:52 | rangi | sudo apt-get install koha-common koha-l8n-se koha-l8n-dk |
| 09:52 | etc | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | ah yeah, cool |
| 09:52 | rangi | then you can apt-get upgrade to get updated translations |
| 09:52 | magnuse | and koha-common would be the "base package" and koha-l8n-dk would just be a language "addon"? |
| 09:53 | rangi | yup |
| 09:53 | koha-common already is the base | |
| 09:53 | magnuse | sure |
| 09:53 | rangi | but potentially we could move more out |
| 09:53 | apt-get install koha-common koha-normarc | |
| 09:53 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:53 | rangi | or koha-common koha-marc21 |
| 09:54 | not sure we will go that fa :) | |
| 09:54 | far even | |
| 09:54 | magnuse | heh |
| 09:54 | rangi | probably just koha-common and then localisation packs |
| 09:54 | magnuse | sounds like a good start |
| 09:55 | i'm thinking of using the packages for my ordinary hosting of course, but also for offering free koha installs hosted by me to nordic library people, for personal use | |
| 09:55 | rangi | yeah with koha-common thats very easy |
| 09:56 | koha-create koha_for_my_friend | |
| 09:56 | :) | |
| 09:56 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:56 | or koha-create koha_for_a_potential_future_customer :-) | |
| 09:56 | rangi | :) |
| 09:57 | when eythian was in the solomons he trained some people there how to do it | |
| 09:57 | and now they are hosting kohas for others :) | |
| 09:57 | magnuse | cool! |
| 09:58 | is there anything you could recommend to read up on to get a better understanding of how the packaging "thing" works? | |
| 09:59 | not the koha packages as such, but the debian packaging "system"? | |
| 09:59 | rangi | fmarier_ might have an idea |
| 09:59 | i just ask him, or liw :) | |
| 09:59 | * rangi | is spoilt |
| 10:00 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:00 | that's what friends are for ;-) | |
| 10:00 | i could try googling around a bit, just wondered if there was any recommended sources | |
| 10:01 | liw | http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging is based on a tutorial I gave to Debian-Women last year, and I've been told it's not entirely bad |
| 10:01 | rangi | http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDe[…]_Debian_Packaging |
| 10:01 | lol | |
| 10:02 | magnuse | wow, great minds think alike! ;-) |
| 10:02 | rangi | my google fu is weak |
| 10:02 | :) | |
| 10:03 | liw gave a great tutorial session at catalyst, so im sure its great | |
| 10:03 | magnuse | i'll definitely have a look, thanks folks! |
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| 10:12 | fmarier_ | liw's intro looks really good |
| 10:12 | liw | thank you |
| 10:14 | magnuse | maint-guide looks like a logical next step? http://www.debian.org/doc/deve[…]nuals#maint-guide |
| 10:14 | fmarier_ | magnuse: that's what I started with, back in the days |
| 10:14 | liw | magnuse, yep |
| 10:15 | magnuse, also, debian-mentors@ and #debian-mentors (or so I'm told, I've never followed those myself) | |
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| 10:15 | magnuse | cool, thanks - i'll start with the intro though |
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| 10:29 | fmarier_ | it looks like the koha wiki cannot send emails out |
| 10:29 | rangi | ah yeah need to talk with galen about that |
| 10:29 | fmarier_ | i tried with my gmail and catalyst email accounts and cannot get the confirmation email |
| 10:29 | * fmarier_ | cannot contribute to the wiki :( |
| 10:30 | rangi | :( ill try to catch gmcharlt tomorrow |
| 10:36 | peopel were spamming through it | |
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| 10:43 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 10:43 | magnuse | hiya kmkale |
| 10:44 | kmkale | Namaste magnuse |
| 10:44 | magnuse | so do namaskar and namaste mean different things, or are they interchangable? |
| 10:45 | kmkale | Interchangeable but when addressing a particular individual namaste |
| 10:46 | is better. But Namaskar is also good | |
| 10:46 | SpaceLibrarian_home | fmarier_: I've had the same problem, used both gmail and catalyst... seems to be fairly widespread... |
| 10:47 | namaste kmkale | |
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| 10:47 | kmkale | namaste SpaceLibrarian_home |
| 10:47 | :) | |
| 10:47 | SpaceLibrarian_home | :) |
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| 10:47 | magnuse | i'll try to remember that kmkale ;-) |
| 10:48 | kmkale | magnuse: to help you understand the pronounciation a bit better it should be spelled Namaskaar and Nanaste \ |
| 10:48 | :) | |
| 10:49 | magnuse | cool |
| 10:51 | rangi | @later tell gmcharlt i think we need to figure out a new plan for the mta on the wiki |
| 10:51 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:52 | SpaceLibrarian_home | kmkale: the volunteer's meeting is in a few hours, yes? |
| 10:53 | kmkale | yes SpaceLibrarian_home |
| 10:53 | SpaceLibrarian_home | just setting my alarm... |
| 10:53 | kmkale | in about three hours |
| 10:53 | so did I :) | |
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| 10:54 | * kmkale | doesn't have much to discuss :( |
| 10:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | is there much? |
| 10:54 | kmkale | Paper Submission Process |
| 10:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | that's worth getting up for... |
| 10:55 | gmcharlt | morning |
| 10:55 | kmkale | Adding a couple of items to the agenda as we speek |
| 10:56 | Namaste gmcharlt | |
| 10:56 | SpaceLibrarian_home | morning gmcharlt |
| 10:56 | rangi: I may be in a little later tomorrow... | |
| 10:58 | right. be back in a few hours. :) | |
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| 11:06 | rangi | right sleep time i think |
| 11:06 | night all | |
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| 11:07 | gmcharlt | g'night rangi |
| 11:08 | jcamins | Night. |
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| 11:20 | kf | hm |
| 11:21 | someone working with sounds on in circulation? | |
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| 11:24 | kmkale | Namaste kf :) |
| 11:24 | gmcharlt | kf: I've used circ sounds, what's up? |
| 11:24 | kf | ah, had a library asking for it |
| 11:25 | they asked if it iwll make a sound when they try to checkout a not for loan item or return a book with a hold | |
| 11:25 | and first it didn't work for me, but it was a problem with my computr | |
| 11:25 | and now it beeps a lot | |
| 11:25 | not only for errors | |
| 11:25 | gmcharlt | right |
| 11:26 | it's meant to signal that Koha has received a barcode scan | |
| 11:26 | kf | I found the bug - bug 1080 |
| 11:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1080 enhancement, P2, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, How about telling the template to make a noise on circulation errors? |
| 11:26 | kf | I was not sure if there were different soudns perhaps |
| 11:27 | testing a little now :) | |
| 11:27 | gmcharlt | yeah, I think there are different sounds |
| 11:27 | * gmcharlt | is running away to board an airplane |
| 11:27 | kf | oh, yes |
| 11:27 | it does :) | |
| 11:27 | thx gmcharlt | |
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| 11:31 | Oak | \o |
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| 11:36 | conan | good morning all |
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| 12:16 | kmkale | @quote random |
| 12:16 | huginn | kmkale: Quote #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each other's brains... we git pull them." (added by gmcharlt at 07:40 PM, August 14, 2009) |
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| 12:20 | kf | hi kmkale and conan |
| 12:21 | @quote random | |
| 12:21 | huginn | kf: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009) |
| 12:21 | * kmkale | waves at kf |
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| 12:22 | oleonard | Hi fmarier_ |
| 12:23 | fmarier_ | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:23 | magnuse: i just saw this on Debian Planet: http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=676 | |
| 12:23 | ^^^ someone just released their Debian packaging tutorial | |
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| 12:24 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:25 | magnuse | fmarier_: wow, thanks for the tip! ;-) |
| 12:26 | fmarier_ | no worries. i thought i should send you the link before i go to bed otherwise i won't remember in the morning :) |
| 12:26 | magnuse | hehe |
| 12:27 | fmarier_ | anyways, have a good day, I'm signing off |
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| 12:31 | druthb | Three kmkales! woooooo! |
| 12:34 | kf | oleonard: around? |
| 12:34 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:34 | kf | I see the mail on the list - place on reserve - possible he uses not the en language pack? |
| 12:34 | I think we killed all reserves | |
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| 12:34 | kf | if he hwas not updated the template files after updating koha this could lead to strange problems |
| 12:35 | oleonard | kf: True. |
| 12:36 | His template would have to be very old to have that link say "reserve" though | |
| 12:36 | I see it also says "Catalogue" | |
| 12:37 | More curious is the second screenshot | |
| 12:37 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]713/reserve_2.jpg | |
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| 12:37 | kf | oh yes |
| 12:37 | had not seen the second one | |
| 12:37 | that looks strange | |
| 12:37 | oleonard | The URL shows a biblionumber but no title appears, and no items |
| 12:38 | kf | it also says reservation and the table looks all wrong |
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| 12:44 | druthb | Will the real kmkale please stand up? |
| 12:45 | kf | now they all are hiding |
| 12:46 | oleonard: and 2 call number columns? | |
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| 12:46 | * oleonard | fires up his 3.2.x installation |
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| 13:30 | magnuse | nengard: this page needs an update: http://koha-community.org/koha-videos-online/ not sure what the best source for videos is these days? |
| 13:31 | nengard | youtube got rid of the groups |
| 13:31 | magnuse | oops, guess that's post, not a page... never mind... |
| 13:31 | nengard | so the best thing to do i guess is just search for koha on youtube :( |
| 13:31 | not ideal at all | |
| 13:31 | magnuse | yeah, i remember... |
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| 13:31 | nengard | youtube said that groups were coming back ... but i haven't seen anything like that happening |
| 13:32 | there is the bywater chanel on blip.tv that has all of my tutorial videos, but that's just a fraction of what's out there | |
| 13:32 | magnuse | i think the new groups on youtube was "coming soon"... |
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| 13:39 | nengard | magnuse it has been "coming soon" for a long time now :) |
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| 13:42 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 13:45 | kmkale | hey Brooke |
| 13:45 | Brooke | :) |
| 13:45 | magnuse | kia ora Brook |
| 13:45 | e | |
| 13:45 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 13:51 | ice cream for breakfast, mum would totally approve. | |
| 13:53 | kmkale | BRB |
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| 13:54 | * Brooke | waves to SpaceLibrarian |
| 13:54 | hands her a flat white or 3. | |
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| 13:54 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | waves tiredly back |
| 13:55 | gratefully takes the coffee. | |
| 13:55 | kmkale | whats your local time SpaceLibrarian_home ? |
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| 13:55 | SpaceLibrarian_home | See? I said I'd get up in the middle of the night for you guys. :) Just going 2am here |
| 13:55 | kmkale | Wow |
| 13:55 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep |
| 13:55 | kmkale | SpaceLibrarian_home:++ |
| 13:55 | * Brooke | zips the lip so she doesn't get in trouble. |
| 13:56 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Brooke: :p |
| 13:56 | kmkale | Brooke: you wanna chair this? |
| 13:57 | Brooke | oh gods. |
| 13:57 | yeah sure fine | |
| 13:57 | #startmeeting | |
| 13:57 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 4 14:00:05 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:57 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
| 13:57 | Brooke | #topic introductions |
| 13:57 | prolly know who we are but go for it | |
| 13:58 | kmkale | kmkale: Koustubha Kale Anant Corporation, VPM Thane, Granthalaya.org |
| 13:59 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Shelley Gurney, Catalyst IT, NZ |
| 14:01 | kmkale | Thats it. Just the three of us here? |
| 14:01 | Brooke | movin' on |
| 14:01 | #topic paper submission | |
| 14:02 | SpaceLibrarian_home | how are the numbers looking? |
| 14:02 | kmkale | give me a min |
| 14:03 | i'll paste whats been submitted so far | |
| 14:04 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 115.241.129.42 pasted "Paper submission 1" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/30 |
| 14:04 | "kmkale" at 115.241.129.42 pasted "Paper submission 2" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/31 | |
| 14:05 | "kmkale" at 115.241.129.42 pasted "Paper submission 3" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32 | |
| 14:05 | "kmkale" at 115.241.129.42 pasted "Paper submission 4" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33 | |
| 14:06 | kmkale | ok what do we do about these? Who does the reviewing? |
| 14:06 | Brooke | get the abstracts to wrap properly first off XD |
| 14:06 | SpaceLibrarian_home | like the abstract, Brooke |
| 14:06 | Brooke | cheers |
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| 14:07 | * Brooke | will clearly not be reviewing her own work. |
| 14:07 | kmkale | :) |
| 14:07 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | will review work that's not her pending submission. |
| 14:07 | SpaceLibrarian_home | do we have guidelines? |
| 14:07 | * kmkale | has no experience at this reviewing stuff |
| 14:08 | kmkale | or shall we just ask everyone to send in the full presentation and then review it? |
| 14:08 | Brooke | oof no |
| 14:08 | SpaceLibrarian_home | nope |
| 14:08 | kmkale | afterall can't get too much from the abstract |
| 14:08 | * Brooke | points out that speakers are horrible procrastinators. |
| 14:08 | kmkale | :) |
| 14:08 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | agrees |
| 14:08 | kmkale | present company included? |
| 14:09 | Brooke | depends. Scarily usually not. |
| 14:09 | SpaceLibrarian_home | what she said.... |
| 14:09 | well, from here we can see there are *clearly* emeging themes here. | |
| 14:10 | *r | |
| 14:11 | kmkale | Must say I like three out of these four one exception being "Optimising ICT Potentials for Integrating Africa in the Global Scientific Information Systems: A Case of Open Access Movement" can't see significant co-relation to Koha or Libraries |
| 14:11 | Brooke | we've not had posters before |
| 14:11 | and that could be summat to keep in mind for stuff like taht | |
| 14:11 | where it might not quite fit the mood | |
| 14:11 | but might be interesting enough to give it a shot or slot | |
| 14:12 | kmkale | we will ask posters if we have too many papers |
| 14:12 | SpaceLibrarian_home | the first one - info lit is *very* light on abscract content.... |
| 14:12 | kmkale | but till we have a full program lets keep posters in the wings |
| 14:12 | ok should I revert to them asking to beef it up? | |
| 14:12 | Brooke | aye |
| 14:12 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | agrees |
| 14:13 | Brooke | also aye |
| 14:13 | kmkale | ok |
| 14:13 | SpaceLibrarian_home | most conf abstracts I"ve been writing for ask for about 400 words. Gives you background, context and aim of talk. |
| 14:13 | May be a good idea here... | |
| 14:13 | kmkale | #action kmkale to ask for beefing up of the abstract from "INFORMATION LITERACY AND LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SCIENCE" authors |
| 14:14 | good idea. | |
| 14:14 | 400 words | |
| 14:15 | SpaceLibrarian_home | it certainly forces you to think about your presentation... |
| 14:15 | kmkale | should I put that as a requirement on the page for paper submissions? |
| 14:15 | SpaceLibrarian_home | you may want to... |
| 14:16 | kmkale | so minimum 200 words and max 400? |
| 14:16 | or minimum 400? | |
| 14:16 | SpaceLibrarian_home | mon 250, max 400 |
| 14:16 | min* | |
| 14:16 | * Brooke | nods |
| 14:17 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 14:17 | Brooke | 250 is the number all of those wicked, naughty grant reviewers ask for. |
| 14:17 | it's much easier to do 400. | |
| 14:17 | kmkale | ok. So I'll write to each of the 4 asking for beefed up abstracts shall I? |
| 14:17 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep |
| 14:17 | will make streaming them/evaluating them easier | |
| 14:18 | kmkale | ask for "background, context and aim of talk." |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:18 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 14:18 | kmkale | I have been away a lot last month on unrelated projects but this month I intend to start following up with people individually for presentations |
| 14:19 | any candidates? | |
| 14:19 | Brooke | have we moved on to keynote then? |
| 14:19 | SpaceLibrarian_home | do you have sponsorship available for a keynote? |
| 14:19 | kmkale | no still talking about getting more papers |
| 14:20 | SpaceLibrarian_home | right. I'm still needing to give you a list of conference alert sites, aren't I? |
| 14:20 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | makes a note to send kmkale more conf lists in the morning. |
| 14:21 | kmkale | sponsorship is again something I intend to do follow up of one on one this month |
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| 14:21 | kmkale | we have INR 100000 from Bharat Grahak |
| 14:21 | Brooke | oi |
| 14:21 | shall I change the topic? | |
| 14:22 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep maybe. |
| 14:22 | Brooke | #topic sponsorship |
| 14:22 | SpaceLibrarian_home | so sponsorship. yes |
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| 14:23 | kmkale_ | oops |
| 14:23 | bad net connection | |
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| 14:24 | SpaceLibrarian_home | 2.8k NZD/ 2.24kUSD |
| 14:24 | Brooke | misplaced 0 or generous benefactor? |
| 14:24 | kmkale_ | We have a commitment of INR 30000 from biblibre |
| 14:24 | and another commitment of INR 15000 from catalyst | |
| 14:24 | that makes for about 145000 INR | |
| 14:24 | we need about three times that amount | |
| 14:25 | not counting in sponsorship for keynote | |
| 14:25 | so gotta go after that too | |
| 14:25 | * Brooke | shamelessly points out that you're still missing Equinox, libriotech, and a host of others |
| 14:25 | SpaceLibrarian_home | 3.2k USD |
| 14:26 | kmkale_ | I have sent mails to *ALL* registered Koha suppport vendors on K-C site |
| 14:26 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | agrees |
| 14:26 | kmkale_ | now I'll follow up with then individually |
| 14:26 | also lining up some libraries and companies here in India | |
| 14:27 | Have done initial mailing to done, but must do personal follow up to get money :) | |
| 14:28 | Brooke: no its 100000INR they are a co-operative store | |
| 14:28 | SpaceLibrarian_home | lovely |
| 14:28 | Brooke | realised that when you totted things up |
| 14:28 | way to go | |
| 14:29 | kmkale_ | what about keynote? |
| 14:29 | Brooke | restaurants might not be a bad pull if you know |
| 14:29 | #topic keynote | |
| 14:29 | SpaceLibrarian_home | bookstores too |
| 14:29 | yes. | |
| 14:29 | keynote. ideas? | |
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| 14:30 | kmkale_ | still here |
| 14:30 | SpaceLibrarian_home | and will you have sponsorship for whomever? |
| 14:30 | kmkale_ | SpaceLibrarian_home: not as of now |
| 14:30 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hmmmm.... |
| 14:30 | do you have an idea as to who to ask? | |
| 14:30 | kmkale_ | but yes if we get the targetted amount |
| 14:30 | SpaceLibrarian_home | okay. |
| 14:32 | kmkale_ | WHo did keynote last time in NZ? |
| 14:32 | Brooke | Rosa |
| 14:32 | kmkale_ | and before that? |
| 14:32 | Brooke | Paul mebbe? |
| 14:32 | could have been Chris? | |
| 14:32 | hang on I'll check | |
| 14:33 | the welcome was listed as Chris and Paul | |
| 14:34 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I still think Jo would be fantastic. |
| 14:35 | kmkale_ | We have one candidate in mind Dr ARD Prasad http://drtc.isibang.ac.in/DRTC/ardcv.html |
| 14:35 | Haven't contacted him yet though | |
| 14:35 | Brooke | who's he? |
| 14:35 | wahanui | he is picky |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | wahanui: forget he |
| 14:36 | wahanui | gmcharlt: I forgot he |
| 14:36 | SpaceLibrarian_home | He's quite the academic lis heavyweight from the looks of things. |
| 14:37 | kmkale_ | He is |
| 14:37 | a leading figure in LIS circles in India | |
| 14:37 | SpaceLibrarian_home | good idea. |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | kmkale_: does he know OSS? |
| 14:38 | kmkale_ | Oh yes gmcharlt |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 14:38 | Brooke | do we want a full on hardcore academic conference? |
| 14:38 | kmkale_ | he keeps publishing a Koha livecd too |
| 14:38 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 14:38 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Brooke raises a good point |
| 14:39 | kmkale_ | with DSPACE and more stuff clubbed in |
| 14:39 | tcohen | have a question for librarians |
| 14:39 | kmkale_ | keeps it upto date with the stable releases |
| 14:39 | tcohen | there exists a list of Marc codes for relators |
| 14:39 | (at least for MARC21) | |
| 14:40 | kmkale_ | Brooke: do we want a full on hardcore academic conference? is a key question |
| 14:40 | * Brooke | nods |
| 14:40 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | agrees |
| 14:40 | kmkale_ | cause VPM is an old academic institution |
| 14:40 | SpaceLibrarian_home | because the way this is looking |
| 14:40 | it's shaping up to be a very academic library conf. | |
| 14:40 | kmkale_ | so we need to assert what kinda conference we want |
| 14:40 | tcohen | is it reasonable that the $e field (e.g. for 700 field) be selected from a list of authorized values? |
| 14:40 | kmkale_ | else it WILL be a full on academic conference |
| 14:41 | * Brooke | rebels against the thought of that. |
| 14:41 | SpaceLibrarian_home | it's heading in that direction, kmkale_ |
| 14:41 | Brooke | I <3 academic stuff, but I'd argue it's not a close fit to the community at large. |
| 14:41 | tcohen | so we can treat it in the UI as needed ? |
| 14:41 | kmkale_ | so Koha people better start cooming up with papers and presentations |
| 14:41 | Brooke | I wouldn't oppose tracking that, though |
| 14:41 | SpaceLibrarian_home | and you need to make it inclusive or you won't get the numbers |
| 14:42 | kmkale_ | I want to a some good stuff on future features like from Brooke and some solid technical papers too |
| 14:42 | SpaceLibrarian_home | The KohaConf needs to be getting more air time to get the papers. |
| 14:42 | kmkale_ | air time? how? |
| 14:42 | SpaceLibrarian_home | You'll be getting an abstract in the same vein as Brooke's from me in the next day or so. |
| 14:42 | Brooke | close for papers is in like august though |
| 14:43 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Close for papers should be moved earlier |
| 14:43 | especially for flights, etc | |
| 14:43 | kmkale_ | yep but two months have already gone by since we started |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | kmkale_: regarding papers, is remote delivery an option? |
| 14:43 | SpaceLibrarian_home | And air time - it needs to be seen more on the lists and boards, etc |
| 14:43 | twitter, etc, etc | |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | i.e., people skyping in? |
| 14:43 | kmkale_ | gmcharlt: yes |
| 14:43 | Brooke | #topic back to papers |
| 14:44 | SpaceLibrarian_home | more like promoting conf to get papers... |
| 14:44 | gmcharlt | cool; I suggest promoting that option (up to a point, in my experience too many remote presentations would get tedious for the audience) |
| 14:44 | kmkale_ | gmcharlt: how about you? Are you attending? if yes a paper? |
| 14:44 | SpaceLibrarian_home | and promoting KohaConf as a worthwhile conf to go to... |
| 14:44 | gmcharlt | kmkale_: yes to a paper, not sure yet about whether I'm attending |
| 14:44 | Brooke | ah go on Galen |
| 14:44 | kmkale_ | SpaceLibrarian_home: wanna take that task up? please? |
| 14:44 | Brooke | you surely want to make mischief in India. |
| 14:45 | certainly the little Missus would like to see the Taj Mahal, too. | |
| 14:45 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 14:45 | SpaceLibrarian_home | will do what I can, kmkale_. I thought slef was going to do some spreading the word as well... |
| 14:45 | kmkale_ | yes gmcharlt please do make it :) |
| 14:46 | ping | |
| 14:48 | we still here? | |
| 14:48 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep |
| 14:49 | kmkale_ | :) |
| 14:49 | Brooke | yep |
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| 14:49 | SpaceLibrarian_home | anything else? |
| 14:49 | wahanui | anything else is reinventing the wheel. |
| 14:49 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 14:49 | SpaceLibrarian_home | lol |
| 14:49 | kmkale_ | :)) |
| 14:49 | Brooke | #topic time and date of next meeting |
| 14:50 | so, I think you should screw me in perpetuity, seeing as how it's an Indian conference and this time is hella inconvenient for y'all | |
| 14:50 | SpaceLibrarian_home | good question |
| 14:50 | not quite midnight for you, is it, kmkale_? | |
| 14:51 | kmkale_ | how about 3rd June? |
| 14:51 | nope its 8.23pm | |
| 14:51 | SpaceLibrarian_home | nice for some. :) |
| 14:51 | 3rd June's a Friday... | |
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| 14:51 | kmkale_ | :) |
| 14:51 | SpaceLibrarian_home | should be fine for me, depending on the time selected |
| 14:52 | coryj is now known as Guest68 | |
| 14:52 | Brooke | roll it back 8 hours? |
| 14:52 | SpaceLibrarian_home | can do that. |
| 14:52 | Guest68 is now known as coryj | |
| 14:52 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hmmmm |
| 14:52 | 6pm | |
| 14:52 | yeah, guess I can do that | |
| 14:53 | 6pm on a Friday is cruel though | |
| 14:53 | Brooke | how about |
| 14:53 | SpaceLibrarian_home | posswibly crueller than 2am on a Thursday morning |
| 14:53 | Brooke | you got screwed this time |
| 14:53 | gmcharlt | SpaceLibrarian_home: on the other hand, how many business meetings do you get to participate in with a beer in hand? |
| 14:53 | SpaceLibrarian_home | possibly* |
| 14:53 | Brooke | so you pick a time for next time :P |
| 14:53 | SpaceLibrarian_home | gmcharlt: I don't actually drink. |
| 14:53 | * Brooke | gasps. |
| 14:54 | gmcharlt | ah, sorry for assuming |
| 14:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | no often anyway |
| 14:54 | Brooke | those words don't make sense in that order. |
| 14:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | :) |
| 14:54 | beer and I don't really like each other | |
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| 14:54 | kmkale | oops again |
| 14:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | How's the 2nd? |
| 14:54 | with a roll back of 8 hours? | |
| 14:54 | Brooke | it's cool, we'll just have to set you up with Tariq or summat. |
| 14:55 | kmkale | 2nd is good too |
| 14:55 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I like 2nd. |
| 14:55 | Now whisky... yes. | |
| 14:55 | kmkale | lets set a good time for NZ and AU this time |
| 14:56 | SpaceLibrarian_home | roll back 8 hours |
| 14:56 | 6pm for NZ, 4 for east Aus | |
| 14:56 | kmkale | good for me |
| 14:56 | Brooke | which is why you all should just say "Screw Brooke" and be done with it |
| 14:56 | SpaceLibrarian_home | lol |
| 14:56 | Brooke | if the time suits the most participants, I just have to ttfu |
| 14:56 | kmkale | 2nd June 6.00 UTC? |
| 14:57 | SpaceLibrarian_home | aye |
| 14:57 | kmkale | we did that last time though |
| 14:57 | Brooke | sounds good |
| 14:57 | kmkale | and the Europeans complained |
| 14:57 | ;) | |
| 14:57 | and this time none of them are around | |
| 14:57 | SpaceLibrarian_home | and rolling forward 8 hours? |
| 14:57 | yeah, they can complain when it's not prime time for them | |
| 14:57 | Brooke | I believe thd complained for the Europeans actually. |
| 14:57 | SpaceLibrarian_home | he did |
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| 14:58 | SpaceLibrarian_home | there weren't any Europeans present anyway. |
| 14:58 | Brooke | right |
| 14:58 | which is why I have a strict "Screw Brooke" policy | |
| 14:58 | SpaceLibrarian_home | slef isn't european, so I dont' count him. UK is separate... |
| 14:58 | kmkale | rooling forward 8hrs is 3.30 am for me :( |
| 14:58 | Brooke | now if there were howls from gmcharlt, they'd be valid. |
| 14:58 | SpaceLibrarian_home | ouch. yeah. we wont' go there. |
| 14:58 | 6UTC it is. | |
| 14:59 | gmcharlt | considering the geographic, I'm happy to accommodate any time the others want |
| 14:59 | kmkale | if you can SpaceLibrarian_home so can I |
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| 14:59 | SpaceLibrarian_home | :) |
| 14:59 | Brooke | settled at 6UTC 2nd June |
| 14:59 | any last minute objections that I shall ruthlessly ignore, pinning the blame on gmcharlt? | |
| 14:59 | kmkale | but the i'd prefer 3rd cause then 4rth is a saturday |
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| 15:00 | SpaceLibrarian_home | and thurs is bad because? |
| 15:00 | Brooke | wasn't the 3rd bad for spacelibrarian? |
| 15:00 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep |
| 15:00 | kmkale | 3.30am on a friday morning will ruine my workday ;) |
| 15:00 | SpaceLibrarian_home | but it's not ayt 3.30am for you |
| 15:00 | at* | |
| 15:00 | kmkale | IF we are rolling forward by 8 |
| 15:01 | SpaceLibrarian_home | we're not rolling forward |
| 15:01 | kmkale | if we are rolling back no probs |
| 15:01 | SpaceLibrarian_home | we're rolling back |
| 15:01 | kmkale | aahh great |
| 15:01 | Brooke | it's 6UTC |
| 15:01 | no one's quarreling that | |
| 15:01 | kmkale | then 2nd June 6UTC? |
| 15:01 | Brooke | right? |
| 15:01 | kmkale | great |
| 15:01 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yep |
| 15:01 | coryj | Perhaps hold it the day before but roll forward 16? |
| 15:02 | Brooke | k set 2 June 6 UTC |
| 15:02 | SpaceLibrarian_home | awesome |
| 15:02 | * Brooke | will impose her iron will on the community by means of secret chocolate attacks. |
| 15:02 | SpaceLibrarian_home | done, I think |
| 15:02 | kmkale | :) |
| 15:03 | SpaceLibrarian_home | And time for bed, methinks. As soon as Brooke closes this meeting... |
| 15:03 | kmkale | I can enjoy the IPL now |
| 15:03 | Brooke | it's closed |
| 15:03 | scurry | |
| 15:03 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:03 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 4 15:06:10 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:03 | Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-05-04-14.00.html | |
| 15:03 | Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-05-04-14.00.txt | |
| 15:03 | Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]04-14.00.log.html | |
| 15:03 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Who's playing? |
| 15:03 | kmkale | good night SpaceLibrarian_home |
| 15:04 | mumbai vs pune | |
| 15:04 | Sachin batting :) | |
| 15:04 | SpaceLibrarian_home | nice! |
| 15:04 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | misses IPL. |
| 15:04 | SpaceLibrarian_home | And on that note. Good night/morning/etc/etc see you in a few hours... |
| 15:04 | Brooke | night babe |
| 15:04 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | waves. |
| 15:08 | oleonard | I can't create a CSV profile in master. Can anyone confirm? |
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| 15:30 | Brooke | hey Owen... |
| 15:30 | you going to KohaCon? | |
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| 15:33 | conan | tcohen: I got to go now, but here the chief librarian chose to set 700$e with authorised_values |
| 15:33 | bye now | |
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| 15:33 | tcohen | conan, thats good |
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| 15:34 | oleonard | Brooke: No, can't afford it |
| 15:35 | kmkale | aw oleonard wish you would |
| 15:36 | oleonard | I wish I could. I've got three kids at home, so getting away is always difficult. Add to that the expense of travel... |
| 15:37 | kmkale | oleonard: no sponsorship? |
| 15:38 | oleonard | I work for a small public library. Travel within the US is sometimes paid for, but not out of the country. |
| 15:38 | kmkale | :( could you try to do a remote presentation oleonard? |
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| 15:42 | oleonard | kmkale: I hesitate to do so just because I don't find remote presentations very enjoyable from an audience member's point of view |
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| 15:42 | kmkale | oleonard: something from you is better than nothing |
| 15:42 | * Brooke | points out that they're more satisfying than naught. |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Thanks kmkale |
| 15:43 | Brooke | think about it, pretty please? |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Sure, I'll think about it |
| 15:44 | Brooke | \/\/00+ |
| 15:44 | kmkale | oleonard: I am lining up dedicated bandwidth and couple of projectors so you can be seen as well as the presentatiobn |
| 15:45 | slef | hi #koha. I hope you're having a better day than me :) |
| 15:46 | kmkale | Namaste slef |
| 15:46 | oleonard | Honestly lately I feel like the interface janitor rather than someone who is doing any interesting work. I think Catalyst is doing some really nice OPAC stuff lately |
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| 15:47 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 15:50 | jcamins | Brooke: what on earth was that smiley earlier? |
| 15:50 | Brooke | which one? |
| 15:50 | wahanui | i guess which one is it |
| 15:50 | jcamins | I've been trying to figure it out for 7 minutes, and I just haven't the foggiest idea what it's supposed to represent. |
| 15:50 | \/\/00+ | |
| 15:51 | Brooke | heh |
| 15:51 | that's not a smiley | |
| 15:51 | it's 1337 for woot | |
| 15:51 | slef | woot |
| 15:51 | Brooke is so 'leet | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:51 | Brooke | heh NOT |
| 15:51 | jcamins | No wonder I couldn't tell. |
| 15:51 | * Brooke | doesn't even make the bar for script kiddie. |
| 15:52 | slef | I think there's a leet-speek filter in a debian package somewhere |
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| 16:02 | slef | @seen wizzyrea |
| 16:02 | huginn | slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 4 days, 20 hours, 7 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> don't apologize, gotta do what you gotta do :) |
| 16:03 | oleonard | @seen wizzyrea` |
| 16:03 | huginn | oleonard: wizzyrea` was last seen in #koha 1 day, 20 hours, 52 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <wizzyrea`> bbinasec |
| 16:03 | oleonard | @seen wizzyrea_ |
| 16:03 | huginn | oleonard: wizzyrea_ was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <wizzyrea_> dev cycle too |
| 16:03 | jcamins | @seen wizzyrea_away |
| 16:03 | huginn | jcamins: wizzyrea_away was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 35 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <wizzyrea_away> :) |
| 16:03 | oleonard | @seen wizzyrea_away |
| 16:03 | huginn | oleonard: wizzyrea_away was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 35 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <wizzyrea_away> :) |
| 16:04 | Brooke | stalk much? ;) |
| 16:04 | oleonard | Yeah, huginn. Perv. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Doesn't she also have a separate nick for her phone? |
| 16:06 | Brooke | @quote add oleonard "Yeah, huginn. Perv." |
| 16:06 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. Quote #131 added. |
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| 16:08 | jwagner | oleonard, got time for a jquery question? I'm trying to make the second item in a pulldown list be selected automatically, and can't quite work out the syntax |
| 16:08 | Not the pulldown I'm working on, but similar to making the masthead search default to Title rather than the first Library Catalog entry | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | jwagner: Does the <select> already have an <option> with the "selected" attribute |
| 16:10 | jwagner | No, it's defaulting to the first one in the list |
| 16:11 | oleonard | Does the <select> have a unique id? |
| 16:12 | jwagner | Yes, it does |
| 16:14 | I've tried things like $("select[name='multibranchlimit'] option:second").selected; | |
| 16:15 | and variations on the theme | |
| 16:15 | oleonard | $("#masthead_search option").eq(3).attr("selected","selected"); |
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| 16:17 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 16:17 | jwagner | Where the eq(3) is the numbre of the item I want selected? |
| 16:18 | oleonard | Yes, possibly starting from 0, possibly from 1. Don't remember the rule. |
| 16:18 | jwagner | OK, I'll try that -- thanks! |
| 16:19 | slef | oleonard: bleah. Still think I'll email :) |
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| 16:21 | kmkale | bye all. good night |
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| 16:31 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:31 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 16:40 | slef | hi cait |
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| 16:44 | coryj | During an import is it normal for ampersands (&) in titles to be converted to & before being written to biblioitems? |
| 16:45 | slef | that sounds like the wrong point for it to happen :-/ |
| 16:45 | coryj | Should be escaped on display, right? |
| 16:45 | slef | yeah |
| 16:46 | it would also be escaped in marcxml but I forget which table that is in | |
| 16:46 | coryj | thought so. Vendor's fix was to stop escaping in the template... not to correct the data. |
| 16:46 | hrm... That is where I was looking.. marcxml column in biblioitems | |
| 16:47 | slef | oh well, it'll be escaped in the XML |
| 16:47 | can't have bare & in XML | |
| 16:47 | XSL Template? | |
| 16:48 | coryj | ok. hm. Just looked in biblio table and it is correct there |
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| 16:56 | coryj | So, if I do a title search, should it be matching against the value in biblioitems.marcxml(tag 245.a) or should it be searching biblio.title ? |
| 16:58 | slef | depends how you do the search, how zebra is configured, and so on |
| 16:58 | bbl | |
| 16:59 | coryj | Fair enough, but is their a recommended search setup for zebra? |
| 17:01 | Right now, if I do a title search for "amp" I get anything with an ampersand in the name. | |
| 17:11 | * cait | waves to slef |
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| 17:24 | druthb | o/ |
| 17:24 | freebe | Installing Koha 3.4.0 I get |
| 17:24 | Software error: Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 279. | |
| 17:25 | Is this a bug? | |
| 17:25 | cait | how did you install koha? |
| 17:25 | are all modules installed? | |
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| 17:26 | freebe | tar.gz and following INSTALL instructions |
| 17:26 | Yes, I think all the modules are installed | |
| 17:26 | cait | hm |
| 17:26 | freebe | Maybe there is a fix for this in the Git tree? |
| 17:26 | cait | I am not sure it's a bug |
| 17:27 | are you past the webinstaller? | |
| 17:27 | freebe | no, I am starting the webinstaller. Starting the web installer it when it fails |
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| 18:20 | jwagner | oleonard, online? |
| 18:20 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:21 | jwagner | That jquery thing, I couldn't get it to work with your syntax, but did with this: $("select[name='multibranchlimit'] option:second").attr("selected","selected"); |
| 18:21 | It does count from zero | |
| 18:23 | Sorry, to clarify, your syntax does count from zero -- this syntax counts from one | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | So the question is why did it work for me and not for you. |
| 18:30 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 18:30 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea. slef was looking for you earlier. |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | :) yea, he emailed me |
| 18:31 | oleonard | Back on home turf wizzyrea? |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | yepper |
| 18:32 | conf wasn't bad for a first try | |
| 18:32 | * gmcharlt | waves from home |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | woot gmcharlt made it :) |
| 18:32 | we missed you though, oleonard | |
| 18:32 | maybe next year :) | |
| 18:33 | jwagner | oleonard, I dunno, but you gave me enough of a lead to get it worked out. Thanks! |
| 18:34 | oleonard | wizzyrea: You'll have to come and collect my brain yourself. How does a brain in a jar get on a plane with more than 3 oz. of liquid anyway? Doctor's note? |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 18:36 | they did catch my shoes though | |
| 18:36 | I was in a hurry to get through in madison | |
| 18:36 | I thought I was going to miss it | |
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| 18:41 | oleonard | Are we all afraid [off] the TSA reading the IRC log? |
| 18:42 | * gmcharlt | is just following wizzyrea's trend ;) |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | well, practically speaking, no reason to worry at all |
| 18:45 | coryj | I hate asking... but do any of you have a notebook/netbook with good battery life that is decent for coding use? |
| 18:45 | jcamins | coryj: my wife has an eeePC which I'm kind of jealous of. |
| 18:45 | coryj | I have an eeePC I HATE because of where they place the keys |
| 18:45 | jcamins | Oh. Well, never mind then. |
| 18:45 | coryj | lol |
| 18:46 | Every time I go to hit the right shift I arrow up instead. | |
| 18:46 | I like the acer KB layout on the Aspire. But that's a pretty old model now. | |
| 18:46 | And I was hoping someone was really happy with theirs (even full size as long as the battery life is ok.) | |
| 18:51 | jcamins | coryj: I like my Macbook Pro. But rangi will mock you if you buy one. |
| 18:51 | I *loved* my Fujitsu, until the power port melted. | |
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| 18:52 | coryj | Non-melting needs to be a key feature |
| 18:53 | oleonard | Picky picky. |
| 18:53 | jcamins | coryj: I know. Otherwise I would've recommended it. |
| 18:53 | That's why I went with a MacBook Pro. | |
| 18:53 | coryj | Don't need the TSA searching my carry-on to find out why it is smoking |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Lots of people swear by Thinkpads. |
| 18:55 | oleonard | I have a fairly new Thinkpad which I like pretty well but which doesn't have great battery life |
| 18:55 | coryj | My prev laptop was a Thinkpad. I got about 2.5 hrs on a charge <thumbs down> |
| 18:55 | * jcamins | used his wife's old Thinkpad for several years. Hated it. |
| 18:56 | jcamins | But, the alternative was actually buying a new computer. |
| 18:56 | coryj | Nothing like getting into the 2nd session of a conference and having your battery die with no outlets anywehere in the room. |
| 18:56 | oleonard | My Thinkpad does better than 2.5 hours on a charge, but it certainly can't compare to a MacBook |
| 19:00 | cait | acer timelinex models are said to have a long battery life |
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| 19:01 | cait | we have one of the smaller models at work - using it for long train rides and writing protocols mostly |
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| 19:02 | coryj | I don't suppose you have Linux on that? |
| 19:02 | cait | no, I am sorry |
| 19:03 | coryj | No prob. If I didn't have Linux on it I'd be sorry to. ;) |
| 19:03 | too even | |
| 19:08 | slef | timelinex doesn't come with LinEx or even any linux? Isnt that an advertising standards offence? ;-) |
| 19:10 | cait | have not investigated it |
| 19:10 | and hi slef | |
| 19:10 | :) | |
| 19:10 | slef | hi again cait |
| 19:10 | coryj | now that you mention it, slef... |
| 19:10 | slef | oh crikey |
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| 19:11 | coryj | hehe |
| 19:11 | * slef | runs to get dinner |
| 19:11 | cait | and he is gone again |
| 19:18 | coryj | Hmm... going to have to modify the opac screen to show this if you have overdues: |
| 19:18 | http://icanhascheezburger.com/[…]ave-some-overdue/ | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Wow, it just got *really* cold. |
| 19:19 | coryj | jcamins: A disturbance in the force? |
| 19:19 | oleonard | Ghost walking by? |
| 19:26 | HBankhead | white walker, one of "the others" |
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| 19:51 | rangi | morning |
| 19:51 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:52 | * rangi | is happy to see fmarier working on koha features :) |
| 19:53 | rangi | hey owen, how's the family? |
| 19:54 | oleonard | Littlest just turned two yesterday |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Need to start thinking about what my 7-year-old is going to do with her summer |
| 19:57 | rangi | ata is 2 end of may |
| 19:58 | ohh 7 | |
| 19:58 | I think when we first met she wasn't born eh? | |
| 19:59 | oleonard | No, not when we first met |
| 19:59 | Hey, is Business::ISBN something that we have to get from CPAN? | |
| 20:00 | * cait | waves to rangi and oleonard |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Someone didn't read INSTALL.whatever. |
| 20:01 | rangi | heh |
| 20:01 | jcamins | oleonard: not you. Responding to the mailing list. |
| 20:01 | rangi | its in squeeze |
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| 20:01 | rangi | and should be ubuntu oleonard |
| 20:03 | oleonard | I'm getting "prerequisite Business::ISBN 2.05 not fount" after doing 'perl Makefile.PL'. Ubuntu. |
| 20:03 | jcamins | sudo apt-get install libbusiness-isbn-perl |
| 20:04 | oleonard | So that should be part of install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 20:04 | ? | |
| 20:04 | adnc | any news to debian packaged koha 3.4? |
| 20:05 | jcamins | oleonard: I thought we added it. |
| 20:05 | But, if we didn't, yes, it should be. | |
| 20:07 | rangi | adnc: its in progress, we will certainly announce it when it is ready |
| 20:07 | adnc | rangi, thanks |
| 20:09 | rangi | the missing dependency is packaged now, so its just dealing with the upgrade from 3.2 and items data moving to go |
| 20:10 | gotta be done round the edges of client work though | |
| 20:10 | adnc: unless you can find us a client who wants to pay for packaging :) | |
| 20:11 | brb my stop | |
| 20:14 | adnc | ;) |
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| 20:24 | cait | morning SpaceLibrarian_home |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | Space_Librarian: mornin :) |
| 20:25 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hey! :) |
| 20:26 | rangi | back |
| 20:26 | SpaceLibrarian_home | morning rangi. |
| 20:27 | rangi | how was the meeting? |
| 20:27 | SpaceLibrarian_home | there were 3 of us... |
| 20:28 | but it was interesting. | |
| 20:30 | rangi | interesting is good |
| 20:32 | SpaceLibrarian_home | yeah... it is. |
| 20:33 | nengard | has anyone used the marc export tool in 3.4? |
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| 20:34 | nengard | i keep getting an empty file when i try to export |
| 20:35 | i tried bib number range and date range | |
| 20:35 | but i think the date range is in the item record and my records don't have items | |
| 20:36 | gmcharlt | nengard: it's querying the items directly, not the copy of the items in the bib MARC |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 20:36 | nengard | gmcharlt, i don't understand what you mean ... i have 800 bib records with no items (holdings) does that mean I can't export the bibs? |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt | nengard: correct; if the bibs have no items, they would not be selected by date range, since it's presently looking for the item dateaccessioned |
| 20:38 | nengard | right - that i assumed, but I tried to do it using bib numbers |
| 20:38 | and that didn't work either | |
| 20:39 | gmcharlt | if library, call number, itemtype, or date range is selected as the filter |
| 20:39 | will only pull in bibs that are linked to items | |
| 20:39 | doing it by bib number shoudl work, but only if none of those other filters are selected | |
| 20:39 | nengard | http://screencast.com/t/xoONp6IE |
| 20:40 | that's what i have | |
| 20:40 | and i get a blank marc file | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | nengard: you checked to make sure that those records are really there, right? |
| 20:42 | nengard | yes :) |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Okay. Just checking. |
| 20:42 | nengard | well I know i have 4121 but maybe not 6000 |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | nengard: hmm, is indybranches turned on in that database by any chance? |
| 20:42 | nengard | gmcharlt, shoudln't be ... let me go look |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt it was!!! | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | nengard: ok, there's your answer |
| 20:43 | nengard | it worked |
| 20:43 | you're awesome :) thanks | |
| 20:43 | I must have turned it on to test something and forgot to turn it back off | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | if indybranches is turned on, it effectively adds a filter to the user session's current branch |
| 20:43 | ... | |
| 20:43 | in some circumstances that could be construed as a bug | |
| 20:43 | nengard | that shouldn't be there for super librarians ... i would think |
| 20:43 | for them it would be a bug | |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | yeah |
| 20:44 | nengard | right? |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | and it is a bug for them |
| 20:44 | nengard | okay I report that as a bug then |
| 20:44 | coryj | Yeah, we have librarians that serve multiple branches too who would be quite annoyed. |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Someone talk me out of serving French toast for dinner. |
| 20:44 | nengard | jcamins, if you're not coming to give me some too then you can't serve french toast for dinner |
| 20:44 | coryj | jcamins: I think that is a splendid idea |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I'm a big fan of breakfast for any meal, so ... no help from me ;) |
| 20:44 | nengard | did that work? :) |
| 20:44 | jcamins | nengard: no. |
| 20:44 | ibeardslee | only if you don't have maple syrup to go with it |
| 20:45 | nengard | hehe |
| 20:45 | * jcamins | has maple syrup. |
| 20:45 | nengard | can't help then cause i love breakfast for dinner |
| 20:45 | ibeardslee | should be no reason not to then |
| 20:45 | jcamins | I was going to have French toast for breakfast, but Shari -- very unusually -- voluntarily suggested omelets, so we had omelets. |
| 20:45 | But I've been thinking about French toast all day. | |
| 20:46 | cait | so you should have them :) |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Gee, you were all so helpful at talking me out of French toast for breakfast. |
| 20:47 | ibeardslee | I might end up picking up some fresh bread and eggs on the way hme |
| 20:47 | coryj | Dooo-eeet! |
| 20:47 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hmmmmm.... french toast. |
| 20:47 | jcamins | It's going to be *amazing* French toast. |
| 20:47 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 20:47 | jcamins | The bread I baked yesterday is absolutely perfect. |
| 20:47 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I think I may find some for breakfast. |
| 20:47 | gmcharlt | I see you're getting your revenge on us for not helping you ;) |
| 20:47 | * gmcharlt | is suddenly hungry |
| 20:48 | jcamins | It was an experimental recipe, but it seemed to work out well, even if it wasn't quite what I was going for. |
| 20:48 | rangi | coryj: i think ive just placed who you are :) you were at kohacon09 right? |
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| 20:49 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 20:49 | rangi | hiya Brooke |
| 20:50 | Brooke | :) |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | heya brooke |
| 20:50 | jcamins | I wish Shari's class didn't end at 6:15. I've talked myself into wanting dinner now. |
| 20:50 | Brooke | <3 |
| 20:50 | I think I'd vomit if I had to eat dinner at 5 most days. | |
| 20:51 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hey Broole |
| 20:51 | Brooke | |
| 20:52 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | isn't quite awake yet |
| 20:52 | rangi | ok, i want to add 658 to fields searched under subject, its just a matter of editing the zebra configs and reindexing eh? |
| 20:52 | Brooke | bounced back right away love. |
| 20:52 | gmcharlt | rangi: yep |
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| 20:52 | rangi | cool |
| 20:54 | jcamins | rangi: doesn't my patch do that? |
| 20:54 | rangi | it might, but this is an older 3.2.x install |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:54 | rangi | what was the bug? |
| 20:55 | * rangi | will see if he can apply it :) |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Oh, no, never mind. |
| 20:55 | It was an earlier one. | |
| 20:57 | rangi | ? |
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| 20:57 | jcamins | Apparently 658 was already added. |
| 20:58 | rangi | oh really, do you ahve any idea when? |
| 20:58 | jcamins | Looking now. |
| 20:58 | rangi | awesome thank you |
| 20:59 | jcamins | Okay, that's weird. |
| 21:00 | There's no commit. | |
| 21:00 | You'll have to edit it manually. | |
| 21:01 | I did all but 658 with my patch. | |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | hm, would it be cool to have a "pick your framework" option for ztarget imports as well as staged imports? |
| 21:02 | jcamins | I guess there should be a follow-up |
| 21:04 | rangi | heya skushner |
| 21:04 | jcamins | Wow, this is taking forever. |
| 21:05 | rangi | yeah it goes 656 657 690 |
| 21:05 | Brooke | as in longer than checking mail in Horowhenua, or shorter? |
| 21:05 | jcamins | (git pulling Master into my bug branch) |
| 21:05 | cait | wizzyrea: you can do that in acq |
| 21:05 | * Brooke | is guessing shorter. |
| 21:05 | jcamins | rangi: oh, in that case you'll need the patch for bug 5192 (433b77b750a155f50d9db4a2e6c9fdf4be6ed169). |
| 21:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5192 enhancement, P1, ---, jwagner, REOPENED , Add new index and search option for 658 curriculum field |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | aha, I wonder then |
| 21:06 | jcamins | And my follow-up to 5868. |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | if it ought to just be something we do at all points of record ingress |
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| 21:11 | skushner | bg:( |
| 21:11 | :D | |
| 21:11 | rangi | ta jcamins |
| 21:11 | coryj | rangi: Yeah, and the hackfest afterwards |
| 21:12 | rangi | welcome back skushner |
| 21:12 | coryj: right ;-) | |
| 21:12 | cool to 'see' you again | |
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| 21:14 | jcamins | rangi: sent you a follow-up patch. |
| 21:15 | coryj | rangi: you too. |
| 21:15 | Decided to get more involved again after kudos meeting | |
| 21:16 | rangi | thanks jcamins |
| 21:16 | coryj: awesome! | |
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| 21:18 | coryj | is it standard for zebra to index title from within biblioitems.marcxml or from biblios.title ? |
| 21:18 | gmcharlt | always from the marxml |
| 21:19 | coryj | Is there a way to get it to de-html-encode it before indexing? |
| 21:19 | If I search for "amp" in titles, I get every book with an ampersand (&) in it since it is encoded to & in marcxml | |
| 21:20 | gmcharlt | coryj: if you run rebuild_zebra.pl with -x, I suspect that would happy automatically |
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| 21:23 | coryj | going to try that right now |
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| 21:24 | jcamins | Time to pontificate on the national identity of Bukharan Jews in late Imperial Russia. |
| 21:24 | Good night, #koha | |
| 21:24 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
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| 21:28 | coryj | gmcharlt: any downside to rebuilding with -x ? |
| 21:28 | gmcharlt | coryj: no |
| 21:29 | just note that if you use authorities, you have to do | |
| 21:29 | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x | |
| 21:29 | and rebuild_zebra -a | |
| 21:29 | as separate crontab entries | |
| 21:31 | coryj | looks like rebuild_zebra -a isn't being run at all in a cron job right now |
| 21:32 | cait | night #koha |
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| 21:34 | gmcharlt | coryj: heh; well, if you're not using authorities, wouldn't need to add it |
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| 21:36 | coryj | Man I'd love to get to Kohacon this year. |
| 21:37 | rangi | chris_n: you about? |
| 21:38 | coryj | last year would have been even better... due to location |
| 21:38 | rangi | @later tell chris_n did you forget to do a push of the 3.4.x branch? |
| 21:38 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:10 | coryj | Guess I should go. I was done 1-1/4 hours ago and haven't seen the wife since before Kudos-con. |
| 22:14 | rangi | spotya later coryj |
| 22:16 | coryj | rangi: until later. Hope the weather is nice for you. Really warm here today 16C! |
| 22:16 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 22:16 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:16 | rangi | the same :) |
| 22:16 | coryj | @wunder wausau, wi |
| 22:16 | huginn | coryj: The current temperature in Hawthorn Hills Elementary School, Wausau, Wisconsin is 16.9�C (5:19 PM CDT on May 04, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:17 | coryj | warmest we've had this spring I think. |
| 22:17 | anyhow.. catch you later | |
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| 22:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 6031 : Fix for syntax (bashism crept into a pure sh script) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a23d1ae4c0ffb20a2> / Bug 6282: HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn missing from pref file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3db05ea32458316df> / Bug 6001 : batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl doesn't crash anymore when GetMarcBiblio fail |
| 22:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 23 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:54 | jcamins_away | Horror! I can't find my maple syrup anywhere! |
| 23:04 | rhcl | and maple syrup would be required for what why? |
| 23:05 | jcamins_away | rhcl: French toast! |
| 23:05 | rhcl | ah, yes, of course. I forgot you were in the Nepal time zone (or whereever it's 7:00 am right now). |
| 23:06 | jcamins_away | I didn't have it for breakfast, so I'm having it for dinner. :P |
| 23:06 | rhcl | of course |
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| 23:07 | jcamins_away | I told #koha to talk me out of it earlier, and they completely failed. |
| 23:07 | coryj | I' |
| 23:08 | I'll have you know... it is your fault that we are having french toast for dinner tonight. | |
| 23:09 | jcamins_away | coryj: but doesn't it sound wonderful? |
| 23:09 | coryj | yeah, that's the problem. |
| 23:10 | Wife said... what should we have for dinner and half jokingly I said "French toast?" | |
| 23:10 | She said, "That sounds GREAT!" | |
| 23:10 | * jcamins_away | has started a movement. |
| 23:10 | jcamins_away | :D |
| 23:12 | eythian | http://thedailywtf.com/#PPic1 |
| 23:13 | coryj | Only bad thing is we don't have fresh bread. But we do have eggs fresh from our chickens. |
| 23:13 | jcamins_away | coryj: ooh. |
| 23:13 | coryj | jcamins_away: Trade you some home-made bread for fresh eggs. |
| 23:13 | jcamins_away | If only I had fresh eggs -- and knew where my maple syrup was -- dinner would be perfect. |
| 23:14 | coryj: I think it would be easier for me to ship the bread than for you to ship the eggs. ;) | |
| 23:14 | coryj | Too bad I didn't just decide to have french toast when it came up before. We could have ahd some fresh bread. |
| 23:14 | jcamins_away: nah... just no promices on the condition when they arrive | |
| 23:15 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
| 23:15 | coryj: well, how long until dinner? | |
| 23:15 | coryj | Actually, the wife ships eggs all the time. |
| 23:15 | Lets see... US post office + time till next pick up * hunger = 5-6 days I think. | |
| 23:15 | My shipping math is rusty. | |
| 23:16 | jcamins_away | coryj: no, I meant for you baking fresh bread. |
| 23:17 | coryj | jcamins_away: ahh. A batch usually takes us about 90 min or so. |
| 23:17 | I'm too hungry now to wait for that. | |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
| 23:17 | That's too bad. | |
| 23:17 | coryj | And the wife is armed with scissors so... |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | If you were on the West Coast, you'd have time. |
| 23:18 | coryj | it's 6:21 here tho. |
| 23:19 | If I were on the west coast it would probably be nicer out too. | |
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| 23:19 | coryj | @wunder 54414 |
| 23:19 | huginn | coryj: The current temperature in Antigo, Wisconsin, Antigo, Wisconsin is 16.4�C (6:12 PM CDT on May 04, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:20 | coryj | although today might have been the warmest so far this year |
| 23:20 | definately warmer/nicer than during the Kudos conf last two days | |
| 23:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.2.x build #23: SUCCESS in 38 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/23/ |
| 23:21 | * Galen Charlton: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases | |
| 23:21 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3543: split NLM call numbers in label creator | |
| 23:21 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 5509 - use an XML parser to get values from config | |
| 23:21 | * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 6001 : batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl doesn't crash anymore when GetMarcBiblio fails. Unprocessed biblionumbers are displayed at the end of the execution instead. | |
| 23:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Spine labels - NLM call numbers not splitting |
| 23:21 | jenkins_koha | * Colin Campbell: Bug 6282: HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn missing from pref file |
| 23:21 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6031 : Fix for syntax (bashism crept into a pure sh script) | |
| 23:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5509 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packaging scripts get upset when there's an LDAP configuration in the koha_conf.xml |
| 23:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6001 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl crashes when GetMarcBiblio fails. | |
| 23:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6282 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn syspref missing from *.pref file | |
| 23:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6031 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , koha-rebuild-zebra doesn't allow XML and verbose indexing | |
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| 23:26 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:26 | * jcamins_away | waves to druthb |
| 23:27 | druthb | hi, teammate! :) |
| 23:28 | jcamins_away | Made it safely back to DC? |
| 23:30 | druthb | I did. back at home, safe and sound. |
| 23:30 | jcamins_away | Hooray! |
| 23:31 | French toast all around to celebrate! | |
| 23:32 | druthb | om nom nom |
| 23:32 | coryj | jcamins_away: Have the eggs in the bowl. Beautiful #ffcc11 colored yolks. Can tell they're getting outside now that spring is here. |
| 23:32 | hrmmm. maybe #ffbb00 - not so good at color-matching | |
| 23:33 | druthb | coryj: it was great meeting you in Madison! :) |
| 23:33 | coryj | druthb: Same here. Wish we could have had you do our migration. |
| 23:34 | jcamins_away | coryj: lucky. My wife won't be home for another hour or two. |
| 23:34 | coryj | We just imported data from our Sr. high school and I took a look at it today. :( not impressed with the clean-up we paid for. |
| 23:35 | First search I found categories of "Horse" "Horse," "HORSE" and "HORSE," to match. | |
| 23:36 | jcamins_away: cast iron pan is hot now | |
| 23:36 | jcamins_away | coryj: at least you didn't have "7TH FL BOX" as a location... for a library in a building with only 5 floors. |
| 23:37 | coryj | lol |
| 23:38 | jcamins_away | Ooh! Or "ASK AT OFFICE." |
| 23:38 | The librarian who presumably entered that didn't recall the book at all. | |
| 23:39 | coryj | Unfortunately, the library this is from is completely against Koha and insists only Destiny will work for them. |
| 23:40 | jcamins_away | Ugh. |
| 23:40 | coryj | Multiple categories in Koha when their old app shows one will be one more bit of "proof" that it isn't up to the job. |
| 23:41 | Two of our six librarians feel that way. The truth is that both of them want the computer to do everything.. and the Follett rep says destiny will. | |
| 23:43 | man, it smells good here. Gonna have to go eat my french toast. | |
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| 23:43 | jcamins_away | druthb: how about you? French toast for dinner? :) |
| 23:47 | druthb | hm...got some chinese takeout on the way... |
| 23:48 | jcamins_away | druthb: you're missing International French Toast Day! |
| 23:48 | * jcamins_away | is rather fixated on French Toast... he wanted it for breakfast, and has spent all day thinking about how yummy it is. |
| 23:48 | coryj_away is now known as coryj | |
| 23:48 | coryj | druthb: for shame |
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| 23:51 | coryj | wb |
| 23:51 | ;) | |
| 23:52 | eythian | you had a minute there to spew invective without be recorded, and you missed it! |
| 23:52 | *being | |
| 23:53 | coryj | the french toast was YUMMY! |
| 23:54 | But now we really must make some bread so we have some nice slightly-stale homemade bread for next time. | |
| 23:55 | hrm.. when I do a title search for "amp" I am still getting every record that has an ampersand (&) in the title. | |
| 23:55 | I assume it is because it is encoded as "&" in the marcxml record. | |
| 23:56 | jcamins_away | coryj: probably. |
| 23:56 | I guess you actually have books with the word "amp" in the title? | |
| 23:57 | coryj | no clue. I'm not going to mention this little "bug" to anyone here lest the anti-Koha librarians blow it out of proportion. |
| 23:57 | jcamins_away | Very sensible. |
| 23:59 | * coryj | wonders if title shoudl be hrml-decoded before being indexed in rebuild_nozebra.pl |
| 23:59 | coryj | bleh... should be html-decoded... |
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