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Time | Nick | Message |
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00:00 | jcamins_away | coryj: don't use nozebra. |
00:00 | Really. | |
00:00 | It will make you tear your hair out. | |
00:00 | coryj | arg... bad copy/paste |
00:00 | rebuild_zebra.pl | |
00:00 | jcamins_away | Good! |
00:05 | tcohen joined #koha | |
00:06 | tcohen | hi rangi |
00:06 | is there a way to translate "on-the-fly" strings that come from database? | |
00:09 | i'm thinking on something like that for bug 6299 | |
00:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
00:14 | rangi | no |
00:14 | we have resisted any on the fly because its slow | |
00:14 | but now i have meetings | |
00:21 | coryj | What's the status of ldap authentication these days? I haven't looked at it for a couple years. |
00:26 | tcohen | on-the-fly translation for frameworks+memcached ? |
00:26 | maybe we could translate complete frameworks on the fly | |
00:29 | jcamins_away | tcohen: I'm not sure that's necessary. |
00:30 | The problem as I see it is catalogue display, not cataloging. | |
00:30 | tcohen | catalogue display of relator terms? |
00:30 | jcamins_away | Right. |
00:31 | Bug 5711. | |
00:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
00:31 | jcamins_away | And bug 5701. |
00:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5701 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
00:31 | tcohen | yeap, I saw those |
00:32 | jcamins_away | I think you can safely require all catalogers at a given institution to use the same language for relator terms. |
00:32 | coryj | I want to add an option to display a branch selector during staff client login.. even when IndependantBranches is enabled. |
00:32 | tcohen | i thought the same, as long as we provide a translated description |
00:33 | in the cataloguing interface | |
00:33 | jcamins_away | tcohen: I'm not sure you need to provide a translated description. |
00:33 | The SQL files are translated. | |
00:33 | coryj | Should that pref go under Admin/Login Options or "Local Use" ? |
00:33 | jcamins_away | coryj: I don't think that's possible. |
00:34 | tcohen | jcamins_away: you mean it is not worth it? |
00:35 | jcamins_away | tcohen: I think I'm probably just confusing you. I'll try to explain what I was trying to say earlier. |
00:35 | tcohen | i think you mean we can just provide translated authorized values for each language |
00:36 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
00:36 | tcohen | and adjust xslt's so everything is shown properly |
00:36 | jcamins_away | For the cataloger. |
00:36 | Right. | |
00:36 | tcohen | alright |
00:37 | i'll post a proposed sql file for 'en' | |
00:37 | one question: how do I start a es-ES data/mysql dir? | |
00:37 | jcamins_away | So the XSLT could have something like: <xsl:if test="marc:subfield[@code='a'] eq 'editor'>Editor:</xsl:if> |
00:38 | tcohen: I don't know, actually. | |
00:38 | tcohen | for the xslt, exactly, that's what i was looking to solve |
00:39 | as for the trnaslation, i'll talk to bernardo so we can commit that translated stuff | |
00:39 | we don't manage to know the workflow for that | |
00:39 | i think i'll send a big patch | |
00:39 | coryj | jcamins_away: I don't see why not. I can remove the bounding IF right now and it works.... only useful for superlibrarians tho. |
00:40 | jcamins_away | coryj: right. It won't work for anyone else, and they'll tell you it's broken. :\ |
00:41 | coryj | In our case the staff interface is mostly used by people who can work in multiple branches. |
00:41 | jcamins_away | Okay, my wife isn't going to be home for a while, I'm just having dinner now. |
00:41 | coryj | french toast? |
00:41 | jcamins_away | French toast time! |
00:41 | :D | |
00:41 | tcohen | jcamins_away: gnochi here |
00:41 | bye and thanks for your time! | |
00:41 | jcamins_away | tcohen: ooh, gnocchi's pretty tasty too. Maybe Friday. |
00:42 | coryj | l8er jcamins_away |
00:57 | tcohen left #koha | |
00:58 | jcamins_away | Wow. |
00:58 | wizzyrea_away | ? |
00:58 | jcamins_away | The French toast. |
00:59 | wizzyrea_away | lol |
00:59 | jcamins_away | Did you *really* think I was going to talk about anything else today? |
00:59 | coryj | everybody talking is away. kinda like ghosts |
00:59 | wizzyrea_away is now known as wizzyrea` | |
00:59 | wizzyrea` | hehe |
01:02 | * jcamins_away | is defiantly ghost-like. |
01:02 | jcamins_away | Though less likely to melt into nothingness now that he's eaten something. |
01:06 | wizzyrea` | so the toast was alright, eh? |
01:06 | as magical as you'd hoped? | |
01:07 | jcamins_away | Yes! |
01:07 | :D | |
01:07 | wizzyrea` | love it when it works out like that |
01:07 | coryj | g'nite #koha. Time for bed |
01:08 | jcamins_away: Think of something good for dinner tomorrow too. Just make sure it is something I'll have the ingredients for on hand. ;) | |
01:10 | coryj left #koha | |
01:10 | druthb | wizzyrea`! Woot! |
01:11 | * druthb | hugs wizzyrea`. |
01:11 | wizzyrea` | :D |
01:11 | thanx :D are you home? | |
01:12 | druthb | yep. |
01:12 | wizzyrea` | fabulous |
01:13 | * jcamins_away | learns outrageously offensive Russian obscenities so he can scream them at the cockroaches. |
01:15 | jcamins_away | Better... Judeo-Tajik curses. |
01:15 | This way I'll fit in. | |
01:16 | wizzyrea` | lol |
01:17 | jcamins_away | You laugh, but they're worse than when we moved in. |
01:17 | Well, maybe not worse. | |
01:17 | But, bad. | |
01:19 | wizzyrea` | ew |
01:20 | jcamins_away | I'll say. |
01:24 | wizzyrea` | are you still in new york proper? |
01:24 | jcamins_away | Yep. |
01:24 | Queens. | |
01:24 | wizzyrea` | is it known for it's cockroaches? |
01:25 | jcamins_away | Yep. |
01:25 | Well, not Queens. | |
01:25 | But New York in general. | |
01:27 | * jcamins_away | fills out the evaluation questionaire for his library school. |
01:37 | jcamins_away | druthb++ # for making Myshkin famous! |
01:37 | druthb | heh. |
01:37 | that's a cute pic you sent. | |
01:40 | rangi | back |
01:48 | Space_Librarian | Oooh. The aliaPD lists now got a KohaCon ping. Irma++ for a scholarship to attend. :) |
01:57 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea`: congratulations! |
01:58 | wizzyrea` | thanx :) |
02:04 | druthb | @seen Brooke |
02:04 | huginn | druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 58 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: * Brooke is guessing shorter. |
02:06 | * druthb | waves to rangi |
02:06 | rangi | hey druthb |
02:09 | jransom joined #koha | |
02:09 | rangi | hey jransom |
02:09 | wahanui | somebody said jransom was so pleased! |
02:10 | jransom | hiya all |
02:10 | druthb | hi, jransom! |
02:16 | Space_Librarian | hey jransom |
02:18 | jransom | hey Shelley :) |
02:20 | Space_Librarian | Hey Jo. :) |
02:24 | jransom left #koha | |
02:33 | jransom joined #koha | |
02:38 | eythian | http://www.ted.com/talks/yocha[…]ce_economics.html <-- "Yochai Benkler on the new open-source economics" |
02:46 | Brooke joined #koha | |
02:46 | Brooke | kia ora! |
02:51 | Kombucha is the nectar of the gods. | |
02:56 | wizzyrea` | mmmmmmm |
02:56 | Brooke | :) |
02:57 | cranberry ftw | |
02:57 | wizzyrea` | oo |
02:57 | * Brooke | was quite probably brainwashed in Massachusetts. |
02:59 | spins the wheel to see if this aussie tank will dc every other second *again*. | |
03:00 | wizzyrea` | now I want cranberries. |
03:01 | Brooke | make Nora post some. >:) |
03:01 | wizzyrea` | nora is great, met her for the first time (in person) monday |
03:02 | Brooke | you have no idea of the extent of her magical powah |
03:02 | wizzyrea` | :) |
03:02 | it's gotta be the hair | |
03:02 | Brooke | nora++ |
03:02 | wizzyrea` | she has wicked cool hair. srsly. |
03:02 | Brooke | I know |
03:02 | * wizzyrea` | gets petty for a moment |
03:02 | Brooke | doesn't she make you want to be ginger. |
03:02 | wizzyrea` | *nod* |
03:03 | ginger + curly | |
03:03 | Brooke | I think it's illegal to boat and not be good looking. |
03:04 | right meant to be healing | |
03:12 | ugh here come da puggers. | |
03:13 | wizzyrea` | uh oh |
03:13 | Brooke | I don't know if that's worse than vent that's going to make me wake up the neighbours with raucous belly laughter, though. |
03:22 | pffft., cloth | |
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03:24 | ka-admin joined #koha | |
03:52 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea ++ for awesome musical taste |
03:53 | wizzyrea` | ^.^ |
03:53 | there's another song I'm looking for, but I can't remember either the name or the artist, but I can hear it in my head it's SO ANNOYING | |
03:53 | Space_Librarian | google a line from the song. |
03:53 | wizzyrea` | not the song, but the fact that I can't remember who or what it is |
03:54 | that's just it, I can only think of the music! | |
03:54 | Space_Librarian | d'oh |
03:55 | ibeardslee | hmm it |
03:55 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjrUOlK2714 |
03:55 | im pretty sure thats it | |
03:55 | ibeardslee | there are a bunch if android and iphone apps that can have a good go at working out what the song is |
03:56 | wizzyrea` | this isn't it but it's a good one |
03:56 | Space_Librarian | yes it is... |
03:57 | wizzyrea` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdUpxch4F8M |
03:58 | rangi | emi hate nz |
03:58 | thats alright, cos i hate them | |
03:58 | wizzyrea` | oh bother. |
03:58 | lol | |
04:00 | ibeardslee | mutter |
04:00 | wizzyrea` | ibeardslee: that's true, but I'm not sure my humming is up to scratch for that |
04:01 | ibeardslee | doesn't even saying what it was, so that we could search for an alternate version |
04:01 | wizzyrea` | un mo |
04:01 | http://grooveshark.com/s/Breathe/2xgh4F?src=5 | |
04:02 | rangi | 404 error |
04:02 | wizzyrea` | seriously! |
04:02 | ibeardslee | Ahh 404 Error by Page not found |
04:02 | wizzyrea` | hrmph. |
04:03 | oh that's just annoying | |
04:03 | ibeardslee | yeap |
04:04 | wizzyrea` | works from here those jerks. |
04:07 | ibeardslee | some songs play from there |
04:07 | wizzyrea` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siIDzHLEwfg |
04:07 | joann joined #koha | |
04:08 | Brooke | 0/ |
04:08 | wizzyrea` | hi joann :) |
04:08 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea`: I know this one. :) |
04:08 | joann | Liz |
04:08 | :) | |
04:09 | Ahmuck-Sr joined #koha | |
04:10 | jransom left #koha | |
04:13 | Ahmuck left #koha | |
04:15 | rangi | we need to get jo using a real irc client again |
04:15 | eythian | irssi? |
04:16 | rangi | anything other than mibbit :) |
04:16 | hdl joined #koha | |
04:16 | rangi | they used to use xchat back in the day |
04:16 | joann | it does seem to drop us off a lot |
04:17 | Brooke | love em and leave em |
04:17 | rangi | i think oleonard uses chatzilla and likes it |
04:17 | Brooke | I use colloquy but with identify it isn't happy |
04:17 | joann | (how do i poke a tongue out?) |
04:17 | Brooke | use a taiaha |
04:18 | joann | have to disconnect again i think |
04:18 | rangi | tewhatewha if you want to poke things |
04:18 | joann | i meant with keystrokes |
04:18 | ibeardslee | :P |
04:19 | joann | like that |
04:19 | ;) | |
04:19 | i can wink | |
04:19 | ibeardslee | ':' and a 'P' |
04:19 | joann | and look sad or happy |
04:19 | "P | |
04:19 | .P | |
04:19 | .p | |
04:19 | '.'p | |
04:19 | lol | |
04:19 | ibeardslee | : |
04:19 | joann | :p |
04:20 | yay! | |
04:20 | just learnt summat! | |
04:20 | not an entirely ewasyed day | |
04:20 | perhaps a few rounds of russian roulette with the bot to finish off the day | |
04:20 | rangi | has someone rearranged all your keys? |
04:20 | :) | |
04:20 | joann | ewasyed = wasted :p |
04:20 | Brooke | she's using a french keyboard ;) |
04:21 | joann | i think when my batteries get low the wireless keyboard just piks letters at random |
04:21 | Brooke | mm hmm |
04:21 | tell it to the judge, lady. | |
04:22 | joann | so clever people in the know: |
04:22 | the south american RFID - Koha talk at kudos | |
04:22 | how 'good' is the rfid-koha? | |
04:23 | * Brooke | will say naught on the subject and goes to mutter in the corner. |
04:23 | * Space_Librarian | laughs |
04:24 | rangi | i think wizzyrea` is the only one here who was the talk |
04:24 | joann | nuff said then |
04:24 | rangi | oh if druthb is still around |
04:24 | the rest of us werent there, so have no idea | |
04:24 | joann | wizzyrea: any thoughts on the ecuador RFID |
04:24 | wizzyrea` | Oh, yes |
04:25 | what was the question? I dropped out for a mo | |
04:25 | * druthb | just got back, sort of. |
04:25 | rangi | the ecuador rfid talk |
04:25 | joann | just hoe 'good' do you think the koha 3.x - rfid is |
04:25 | rangi | anything good/useful |
04:25 | eythian | they've all gone quiet... |
04:25 | wizzyrea` | oh, I think it works well - |
04:25 | rangi | the thing to remember is, rfid is nothign to do with ils |
04:25 | joann | coz that may well be rangi's next mission if he chooses to accept it |
04:26 | wizzyrea` | ^^ |
04:26 | rangi | its actually sip2 |
04:26 | wizzyrea` | ^^^^^ |
04:26 | that | |
04:26 | rangi | rfid is just reading stuff off chips |
04:26 | joann | yep - and they have got that working smoothlythen? |
04:26 | rangi | its what the machine then does with it that matters |
04:26 | wizzyrea` | well I have a RFID library |
04:26 | 3M | |
04:26 | rangi | and thats got nothing to do with RFID |
04:26 | joann | bywater posted somewhere about payments and sip2 as well |
04:26 | wizzyrea` | and yes, with a few very minor issues it works well with the self check and smart chute machiens |
04:26 | rangi | thats an enhancement proposal, code doesnt exist yet |
04:26 | druthb | bit of a language barrier, but it looked to me like they had put together a pretty cool way to not spend a gazillion dollars setting things up. |
04:27 | joann | and that too, will be on chris's to do list once the new budget comes in |
04:27 | wizzyrea` | yea, it looked to me like they set up with off the shelf RFID readers |
04:27 | joann | which is very tempting. |
04:27 | rangi | all the problems ive seen with rfid |
04:27 | wizzyrea` | and used ILSDI to interconnect everything... is that right? |
04:27 | rangi | is nothing to do with rfid |
04:28 | its with some stupid proprietary software getting in the way | |
04:28 | between the rfid reader and the ils | |
04:28 | wizzyrea` | one thing that I did like about their setup |
04:28 | they hid the security gates with lovely wood | |
04:28 | rangi | if you can make sure you dont have that stupidity, everything is easier |
04:28 | that was the problem albany high school ran into | |
04:28 | joann | so maybe we should not go with a vendor just do it ourselves chris |
04:28 | druthb | that's what I understood, yes, wizzyrea` |
04:28 | joann | albany with 3M? |
04:28 | wizzyrea` | *nod* same experience here, though the 3M software is pretty straightforward |
04:29 | joann | i did like techlogic better than 3M |
04:29 | wizzyrea` | we've had very few real issues with Koha (more with not-koha) |
04:29 | rangi | or a vendor that doesnt require you to stick a windows machine anywhere in the mix |
04:29 | soon as you do that, theres a big point of fail right away | |
04:30 | joann | nods |
04:30 | rangi | if you can get an rfid reader |
04:30 | that acts exactly like a barcode reader | |
04:30 | joann | wizzyrea: you reckon you could get the ecuador paper / slides? |
04:30 | wizzyrea` | (in truth, the reader ... dangit!) |
04:30 | rangi | ie a standard input device |
04:30 | wizzyrea` | i'm too slow! |
04:30 | lol | |
04:30 | rangi | then you are gravy |
04:30 | wizzyrea` | I have them now I think, lemme look and I'll send em to ya |
04:31 | which email addy? | |
04:31 | nm you're in my address book. Clever addressbook. | |
04:32 | joann | they all come to gmail so any one will be fine |
04:32 | wizzyrea` | sent |
04:32 | 4MB ppt tho | |
04:33 | joann | its not here yet - but that should get through ok |
04:33 | thanks for that | |
04:33 | wizzyrea` | sure |
04:33 | rangi | joann: techlogic seemed ok |
04:34 | wizzyrea` | 3M is ghastly expensive, imo |
04:34 | rangi | but the trick is like i say, you want something that can talk straight to the ils, we dont want to have to run through some middle obfustication layer |
04:34 | joann | yeah - thats what i liked abouttechlogic |
04:34 | its arrived ! | |
04:34 | wizzyrea` | :D yay! |
04:34 | * Brooke | hopes it's in espanol |
04:34 | rangi | get them to sign on the dotted line saying it will work with linux, with no proprietary software needed |
04:34 | and you are all good | |
04:35 | :) | |
04:35 | * Space_Librarian | likes this idea |
04:35 | * wizzyrea` | idly wonders if you'd still need a proprietary-ish device driver |
04:35 | joann | can't open it though ... |
04:36 | what is a .rar file? | |
04:36 | wizzyrea` | it's a rar, you'd need winrar. let me see what I can do about that |
04:36 | gimme a min | |
04:36 | rangi | you wouldnt need it |
04:36 | they might force you to have it anyway tho | |
04:36 | joann | i sent it to you too chris |
04:36 | rangi | joann: i doubt catalyst wants to get into the hardware game |
04:37 | joann | true |
04:37 | i'll download winrar liz - dont worry | |
04:37 | rangi | or want to support custom made rfid solution .. but we would be happy to go, 'that wont work' |
04:37 | or 'that will work' | |
04:37 | wizzyrea` | k, lmk if you have trouble, cuz I'm going ahead and unrar then zipping it |
04:38 | rangi | and set up koha to talk to the system you get |
04:38 | remember jack from kapiti? | |
04:38 | dont do that | |
04:38 | joann | no - i've got it open now |
04:39 | wizzyrea` | cool |
04:39 | eythian | wizzyrea`: why zip it at all? |
04:40 | rangi | if its powerpoint its probably 83934239234 gb unzipped |
04:41 | wizzyrea` | nah, it's got 3 files |
04:41 | eythian | ah |
04:41 | wizzyrea` | a video and a ppt |
04:41 | and a 3rd unidentified something or other | |
04:41 | rangi | virus |
04:41 | :) | |
04:41 | wizzyrea` | well it's pptx, so yea, that's not far from the truth |
04:41 | joann | i've looked atthe powerpoint and didn't self destruct |
04:41 | wizzyrea` | :) |
04:42 | joann | ok - i can only 'see' the powerpoint but if you unzip and send me the paper i would appreciate that |
04:43 | eythian | I love how every time someone sends me data, they tweak the export options to make it different in some subtle way. |
04:44 | wizzyrea` | that was one of the tenets of Ruth's presentation |
04:44 | "write down how you did it, and do it that way for every extract" | |
04:44 | Space_Librarian | which looked good - I've read the slides and notes. |
04:44 | eythian | where are they available? |
04:44 | wizzyrea` | it was very good |
04:44 | Space_Librarian | should be on Ruth's blog now? |
04:45 | eythian | where is that? |
04:45 | wahanui | i heard that was too complicated |
04:45 | Space_Librarian | http://www.librarygeekgirl.net/downloads/ |
04:45 | Brooke | yeah clearly Ruth's preso was the best. |
04:46 | eythian | cool ta |
04:46 | * druthb | hides. |
04:46 | wizzyrea` | dunno, galen's was pretty awesome too -- who else do you know that can make cataloging compelling |
04:46 | Brooke | can't hide til August |
04:46 | I know where you live, theoretically. | |
04:46 | Space_Librarian | he made cataloguing compelling?! This I *need* to see... |
04:47 | wizzyrea` | and ian's git preso was pretty great |
04:47 | joann | i played with prezi once and i am nowhere near creative enough to use it (sadly) |
04:47 | i saw ina's git one | |
04:47 | ian's | |
04:47 | Brooke | cataloguing is always compelling |
04:48 | Space_Librarian | well... |
04:48 | Brooke | surely you must be compelled to do it |
04:48 | * wizzyrea` | stares slantily at Brooke |
04:48 | Space_Librarian | with whips driving you, yes. |
04:48 | wizzyrea` | s/compelling/interesting |
04:48 | Brooke | not my fault they chained me to a desk and made me do spanish cataloguing against me will. |
04:48 | wizzyrea` | haha |
04:48 | Brooke | I wasn't even paid! |
04:48 | * Brooke | cries from PTSD |
04:49 | Space_Librarian | it didn't kill you, so ergo, it made you stronger... |
04:49 | with razor sharp wit... | |
04:49 | ;) | |
04:49 | Brooke | nope, that's the fencing |
04:49 | Space_Librarian | lol. |
04:49 | Brooke | I keep tellin' meself I'm not meant to trash talk in fencing |
04:51 | I *lead* Dave at one point. | |
04:51 | People were shocked. | |
04:53 | then I skivved off tonight | |
04:53 | coz I'm lazay | |
04:54 | eythian | druthb: interesting differences there compared to how I do it, although nothing too fundamental. |
04:55 | Mostly, I refuse to touch spreadsheets except as viewers, and I try to get all incoming data as close to CSV as they can get it and then use a handful of scripts to chop everything up and import into Koha/produce MARC. | |
04:56 | Brooke | dahmer scripts? |
04:57 | wizzyrea` | koha = the freezer where you keep the preserved head of your library data? |
04:57 | druthb | eythian: Much as I flatly refuse to use MARCEdit except as a viewer, really. |
04:57 | wizzyrea` | that may be the most gruesome metaphor ever for koha |
04:57 | eythian | druthb: pretty much. I refuse to use that because it's not free software :) |
04:57 | rangi | eythian++ |
04:58 | eythian | (and also I don't really need it) |
04:58 | * Brooke | blames it on raiding late at night instead of sleeping. |
05:00 | eythian | http://paste.koha-community.org/35 <-- that's what my migration scripts end up looking like. |
05:01 | Space_Librarian | Brooke: raiding? |
05:01 | Brooke | a yep |
05:01 | Omnotron | |
05:01 | Space_Librarian | you don't. |
05:01 | * Brooke | needs click shiny cds more often. |
05:02 | Space_Librarian | really? |
05:02 | why? | |
05:02 | Brooke | as featured on wow.com babe. |
05:02 | because it is obtusely good for adminughstrative skillz/ | |
05:03 | it is freggin fascinating for group dynamics. | |
05:03 | wizzyrea` | i actually completely agree with that sentiment |
05:03 | Brooke | and if I wasn't such a jackarse, my data would be anonymised. |
05:03 | but RealID is kinda spoiling that, but I could still get round it with permission and such. | |
05:03 | Space_Librarian | lol. |
05:03 | wizzyrea` | I learned more about people being an officer in a raiding guild than I have at any other point (well, until I was involved in the koha community, that is) |
05:03 | Space_Librarian | Suddenly, your KOhaCon abstract makes so much more sense... |
05:04 | * Space_Librarian | is slightly more old school than wow. |
05:04 | joann | druthb great presntation |
05:04 | makes me miss IT work really .... | |
05:04 | rangi | youre all newbies, when i was young we had to bang rocks together to make electricity to play pong |
05:05 | Brooke | now you see here |
05:05 | back in the day | |
05:05 | I was on the TAMU mud | |
05:05 | when dinosaurs and gal trader roamed the earth | |
05:05 | joann | a lot (actually) ... rather wrangle data than people anyday |
05:05 | Brooke | GET OFF THE LAWN! |
05:05 | wizzyrea` | oh lawd. |
05:05 | eythian | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo <-- I'm just going to leave this here to prevent it spiraling down |
05:05 | Space_Librarian | what have we done? |
05:06 | eythian ++ | |
05:06 | joann | i'm off home to cook yummy dinner for neighbours whose husband/dad died last night |
05:06 | wizzyrea` | nerd oneupmanship |
05:06 | joann | night all |
05:06 | Brooke | night night |
05:06 | Space_Librarian | bye Jo |
05:06 | druthb | thanx, joann! g'night. |
05:06 | eythian | bye joann |
05:06 | wizzyrea` | gnite joann |
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05:08 | Brooke | nerdoneupmanship is gs based. |
05:08 | wizzyrea` | more properly: NERD FIGHT! |
05:10 | Space_Librarian | I have already won... |
05:10 | so I'll let you fight it out for second. :p | |
05:11 | wizzyrea` | skip to 9s in this vid http://www.zefrank.com/theshow[…]06/10/102606.html |
05:11 | rangi | ok home time |
05:11 | * rangi | wanders off |
05:11 | Brooke | ciap |
05:11 | ciao even | |
05:11 | wizzyrea` | latah |
05:12 | Space_Librarian | adios |
05:13 | druthb | Koha_chicks_taking_over_#koha++ |
05:14 | Space_Librarian | :D |
05:14 | We need t-shirts. srsly. | |
05:14 | druthb | yis. |
05:16 | wizzyrea` | ha HAH |
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05:33 | * druthb | heads to bed. |
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05:41 | Brooke | I'm considering writing a paper for First Monday on gender in Koha |
05:42 | Space_Librarian | sounds interesting. |
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05:46 | cait | good morning #koha |
05:46 | Space_Librarian | morning cait |
05:51 | cait | hi Space_Librarian |
05:51 | :) | |
05:51 | * Space_Librarian | waves |
05:56 | cait | bug 6302 is weird |
05:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6302 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Failing to send email notices - to_address not set |
05:57 | cait | we started sending overdues for one of our libraries this week, 3.2.2. And the librarian told me happily that her coworker had received the notice just as planned |
05:58 | hm | |
06:06 | * Space_Librarian | preapres to wander off and pack for a conference in soggy Waitomo... |
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06:16 | Brooke | bid! |
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06:32 | AmitG | heya all |
06:32 | heya chris | |
06:34 | cait | hi Broke and AmitG |
06:34 | alex_a | hi #koha |
06:34 | AmitG | heya cait |
06:34 | cait | hi alex_a |
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07:06 | rangi | @later tell kf yes i think the person has misunderstood it doesnt need a to address, the process message queue script does that |
07:06 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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07:16 | kf | hi #koha |
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07:32 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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07:32 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
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07:34 | magnuse | namaskar kmkale |
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07:53 | kf | namaskar kmkale and god morgen magnuse |
07:54 | kmkale | Namaste kf |
07:54 | Namaste magnuse | |
07:56 | magnuse | god dag kf and kmkale ;-) |
07:57 | kmkale | magnuse: kf said god morgen and you said god dag. Whats the difference? |
07:57 | magnuse | kmkale: god morgen = good morning, god dag = "good day" (it can be used any time of the day) |
07:57 | kf | I think god dag is later? |
07:58 | kmkale | aahh. Thanks |
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07:59 | magnuse | yeah, it's sort of ambiguous - "dag" sort of comes after "morgen", but at the same time it can mean a whole day, not just the middle of it (i think) |
08:03 | eythian | Weltrusten, #koha :) |
08:03 | magnuse | um, hi eythian |
08:03 | dutch? | |
08:04 | eythian | yeah, means 'good night'. Because I'm off :) |
08:04 | magnuse | ah, have a good night, then! |
08:04 | eythian | well, it would mean that if I'd spelt it right, anyway 'welterusten' |
08:05 | later | |
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09:09 | slef | @later tell SpaceLibrarian England is part of Europe (the UK too, but I don't really agree with us being part of that ;-) ) |
09:09 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
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10:25 | AmitG | @later |
10:25 | huginn | AmitG: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
10:25 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
10:25 | AmitG | @wounder New Delhi |
10:25 | huginn | AmitG: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
10:25 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
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10:29 | druthb | o/ |
10:34 | magnuse | \o |
10:34 | @wunder boo | |
10:34 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
10:35 | magnuse | @wunder new delhi |
10:35 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (3:30 PM IST on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
10:35 | * magnuse | puts on an extra shirt and wanders off in search of lunch |
10:37 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
10:37 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 6.6�C (6:39 AM EDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Rising). |
10:42 | kf_mtg | @wunder boo |
10:42 | huginn | kf_mtg: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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10:47 | * druthb | waves to Irma |
10:58 | AmitG | heya druthb |
11:05 | druthb | hi, AmitG! :) |
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11:52 | conan | hi everysoul |
12:00 | jwagner | Hi conan |
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12:05 | magnuse | fmarier++ # for those awesome avatars (too bad comments are probably not used a lot in most OPACs...) |
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12:07 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
12:07 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie" (added by jdavidb at 05:19 PM, February 24, 2010) |
12:09 | slef | awesome avatars? |
12:10 | * oleonard | puts on his 3D glasses |
12:10 | magnuse | slef: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6298 |
12:10 | huginn | 04Bug 6298: enhancement, P5, ---, fmarier, ASSIGNED , Profile pictures in the OPAC next to review authors |
12:13 | slef | I was just thinking maybe koha should use http://en.gravatar.com/site/implement/images/ if it doesn't already, but hesitating because of the terms of use. Good to see that's in there, even using a freer service as first preference. |
12:13 | magnuse | yay |
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12:30 | kf | oleonard++ |
12:35 | oleonard | Thanks kf, what was that for? |
12:43 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
12:45 | are there any works on having a mobile-oriented UI? | |
12:46 | oleonard | Many people have expressed their desire for one but so far no one has done it |
12:47 | * oleonard | sees that once again koha.org lists a months-out-of-date Koha download |
12:47 | oleonard | PTFS-- |
12:52 | I see a question about 'browse shelf' on the mailing list, and it raises a question: If you have all three "ShelfBrowserUses*" prefs on, does it limit to a unique combination of all three? | |
12:53 | kf | for fixing that duplicate bug so fast :) |
12:53 | oleonard | kf: I spent a while trying to fix that bug (without success) so I remembered it! |
12:53 | kf | oleonard: it's probably the known bug - I answered it |
12:54 | yes, I tried to fix it too | |
12:54 | 2 hours... | |
12:54 | until I gave up | |
12:54 | I see no reason for it not working :( | |
12:54 | oleonard | It's probably a fix rangi will spot immediately if he takes a look |
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12:57 | * oleonard | is starting to think the same thing about Bug 6306 |
12:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6306 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , It is not possible edit news |
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13:13 | kf | oleonard: yep, I asked him, but he probably found no time for it yet |
13:14 | and he dislikes the guided reports... | |
13:14 | we talked about deprecating them (which would also solve the bug ;) ) | |
13:14 | oleonard | Bad memories. |
13:15 | kf | perhaps |
13:18 | nengard | is it my imagination or did the subscription page in the OPAC used to have a JS table sorter on it? |
13:18 | oleonard | The table of issues? |
13:19 | nengard | yes |
13:19 | the full detail page | |
13:20 | url: /cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=4038 | |
13:20 | or i should say : cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?selectview=full&biblionumber=4038 | |
13:20 | which is what i have as the default | |
13:20 | oleonard | Not unless someone deliberately took it out |
13:20 | Not even an ID on the table. | |
13:20 | nengard | k |
13:21 | it was my imagination :) gonna put an enhancement in there ;) | |
13:21 | kf | today is enh day :) |
13:21 | magnuse has been busy too | |
13:23 | nengard | yesterday i exported my librarything collection and imported it to koha!! :) |
13:23 | now my test system has my real library | |
13:23 | oleonard | Does it export items too? |
13:23 | nengard | no |
13:23 | I had a few steps: | |
13:23 | 1. export from LT | |
13:24 | 2. import to koha | |
13:24 | 3. export from koha | |
13:24 | 4. open in marcedit | |
13:24 | 5. add items | |
13:24 | 6. clean original koha import | |
13:24 | 7. rebuild zebra | |
13:24 | 8. import marc file with items to koha | |
13:24 | The reason I did it that way was cause the LT file wouldn't open in marcedit cause of errors in the file that koha just ignored :) | |
13:25 | kf | cool! |
13:25 | magnuse | nengard: what format did you export from LT? |
13:25 | nengard | I used the 001 as my barcode (since it's a fake system) and the 050ab as my call number |
13:25 | kf | can you put that on the wiki somewhere? |
13:25 | I would love to try that sometim | |
13:25 | nengard | magnus the first one ... fuzzy i think |
13:25 | kf sure can | |
13:25 | kf | is there a trick to add a lot of items at once? |
13:25 | wit marcedit? | |
13:25 | nengard | it's easy peasy |
13:25 | you do add field and add a 952 with you $a, $b, $2, $y | |
13:26 | magnuse | having that on the wiki would be super cool! |
13:26 | nengard | and then you can do swap field data to pull the call number and barcode |
13:26 | I'll gladly share | |
13:26 | it was a bit frustrating, so I'd love to help you all :) hehe | |
13:26 | magnuse | nengard++ |
13:27 | nengard | of course this only works for a not real library - otherwise you have to go in and add real barcodes to all of the items |
13:28 | kf | nengard++ |
13:28 | * kf | has her books in libarything too |
13:28 | * magnuse | too |
13:29 | magnuse | and i'm toying with the idea of offering free koha installations for personal use to nordic library people... |
13:29 | nengard | magnuse LT only exports in USMARC right now - fyi |
13:29 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]raryThing_to_Koha | |
13:30 | will beef it up as I have time ;) | |
13:30 | magnuse | ah yes, but usmarc is probably similar to marc21 (which is similar to normarc)? |
13:30 | yay! | |
13:30 | nengard | :) |
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13:34 | magnuse | i will definitely have a go at that and add anything i figure out along the way to the page |
13:34 | gmcharlt | magnuse: usmarc *is* marc21 |
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13:35 | gmcharlt | or more precisely, usmarc merged with CANMARC and UKMARC to become MARC21 |
13:35 | magnuse | thanks gmcharlt, thats just about what i thought |
13:35 | * magnuse | can't wait to get rid of *all* of them ;-) |
13:35 | oleonard | Known as MARC21 in the US so that everyone knows it's old enough to drink. |
13:36 | gmcharlt | oleonard: drink, Owen, drink - how else do you think standards like MARC21 get developed? |
13:36 | ;) | |
13:36 | * gmcharlt | needs more coffee |
13:36 | gmcharlt | you had said that, of course |
13:36 | oy | |
13:38 | * kf | sends gmcharlt some espresso |
13:38 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6309] subscription table sorter in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6309> |
13:38 | * kf | stares on her todo list |
13:38 | kf | I have a red entry called feedback report |
13:38 | and I have no idea what it means | |
13:39 | must be a monday in costume of a thursday | |
13:39 | * oleonard | wonder's what Monday's outfit looks like |
13:41 | assumes it wears some kind of scary hat | |
13:42 | * magnuse | thinks monday has a wardrobe full of scary outfits... |
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13:44 | kf | hehe |
13:44 | * chris_n | agrees with that! |
13:49 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5876] New permission for overdues report <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5876> |
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13:51 | magnuse | sorry kf, i have no idea what a feedback report is... but it sure sounds useful! ;-) |
13:51 | bonjour hdl | |
13:51 | f3ew | Is there a way to dumb down the Koha interface a lot? |
13:52 | The use case in this case is a corporate in-house library, without the need for MARC or book sizes | |
13:52 | hdl | hi magnuse |
13:52 | f3ew | and a very part time librarian |
13:53 | wizzyrea | yep, you can use a very simple framework |
13:53 | with only the fields you need | |
13:55 | gmcharlt | f3ew: in particular, the fast-add framework is a good starting point for a simple one to use |
13:57 | * f3ew | googles |
13:58 | jwagner | f3ew, you can also remove some of the clutter from staff logins by using granular permissions and not assigning permissions for modules your staff don't need. For example, if you aren't using acquisitions or serials, no need to have those modules visible. |
13:58 | magnuse | f3ew: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ework.sql;hb=HEAD |
13:59 | f3ew | jwagner, more of a need "ISBN, Book title, Author, quantity, date of purchase, price" and nothing else |
13:59 | nengard | oleonard++ |
13:59 | jwagner | Yes, that would be the framework setup, then. I was just suggesting other areas to simplify. |
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14:07 | magnuse | oleonard++ # 21 minutes from mention of missing tablesorter to patch ;-) |
14:07 | oleonard | Low-hanging fruit :) |
14:08 | magnuse | nevertheless... |
14:15 | kf | oleonard++ |
14:15 | magnuse | nengard++ # for signing off |
14:16 | nengard | :) |
14:16 | kf | nengard++ |
14:16 | lots of reasons for karma | |
14:18 | nengard | aww shucks |
14:18 | :) | |
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14:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6311] end_patron_session always reports a non-existent error <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6311> |
15:01 | * oleonard | does not understand the discussion on Bug 5872 |
15:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, christophe.croullebois, ASSIGNED , Enhancements to circulation management |
15:01 | oleonard | What's all this about submodules? |
15:02 | magnus_away | oleonard: http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]it-submodule.html |
15:02 | "Submodules allow foreign repositories to be embedded within a dedicated subdirectory of the source tree, always pointed at a particular commit." | |
15:04 | ? | |
15:04 | * magnus_away | is really away now |
15:06 | gmcharlt | oleonard: well, upshot of the discussion on that bug is that *requiring* use of a git submodule would make Koha difficult to package again |
15:07 | IOW, it really needs to be based on a packaged version of jeditable, or at least a version we can stick in the Koha tree and release that way, not on a link to a git repository | |
15:07 | wizzyrea | man, i don't wanna go there. we should not go backwards |
15:07 | gmcharlt | i.e., the discussion (or argument) is about what needs to happen to make that dependency packageable |
15:07 | wizzyrea | packaging should be getting easier, not harder. |
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15:11 | gmcharlt | also, would need a look |
15:12 | jeditable has not been receiving much in the way of updates for the past couple years | |
15:12 | so that either means that it's generic enough that it's "done" | |
15:12 | or that it's not particularly active | |
15:12 | either way, we'd want to make sure that we're not locking ourselves into an old version of jQuery by using it | |
15:16 | kf | gmcharlt: you should add that to the bug I think |
15:17 | oleonard | In Jeditable's favor, the author still responds to comments on his site. there was a commit in January, although a minor one. |
15:17 | gmcharlt | oleonard: yeah, I'm not dismissing jeditable out of hand, and it has a good rating |
15:17 | wizzyrea | ok, is it J editable or Jedi Table? Because if it's Jedi Table, then by default it should go in on pure awesome alone. (I kid) |
15:18 | gmcharlt | but (from my POV), without having actually looked at it yet, dunno if it's being maintained enough to not break when we want to adopt jQuery 1.5+ |
15:18 | paul_p | Jedi Table ? DarkVador chair ? :D |
15:18 | wizzyrea | :D |
15:19 | gmcharlt | do the table legs double as light sabers? |
15:20 | wizzyrea | jedi table is suspended by the force alone |
15:20 | oleonard | Don't be silly, you can plainly see the Jedi don't use a table: http://meltingpot.fortunecity.[…]06/councilxxx.jpg |
15:20 | wizzyrea | rofl |
15:20 | they are also not eating there ^.^ | |
15:21 | oleonard | Yeah, we never got to see the Jedi cafeteria |
15:21 | * wizzyrea | imagines Yoda eating a sandwich and reading the paper, giggles |
15:22 | wizzyrea | mmm tasty you are! |
15:22 | gmcharlt | coffee too cold? bit of Force lightning to the rescue |
15:23 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
15:24 | sorry, I didn't mean to derail that conversation, back to srs business | |
15:25 | jedi table, we should find out if it's gonna lock us into a specific version of jquery | |
15:25 | slef | SRS are not a good registrar :) |
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15:27 | oleonard | slef: When will you know the results of the AV referendum? |
15:29 | Does anyone know under what circumstances Bug 6081 can be seen in action? | |
15:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6081 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Do not show "not for loan" description if false |
15:31 | slef | oleonard: I think they don't start counting for about 24h from now. |
15:31 | * oleonard | imagines it will be a cold day in hell before the US passes anything like that |
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15:33 | rhcl_away | What's the breakout or amplifying data for "AV referendum"? |
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15:34 | rhcl | perhaps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U[…]_referendum,_2011 |
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15:44 | Oak | \o |
15:44 | wizzyrea | o/ |
15:44 | Oak | \o/ |
15:45 | wizzyrea | <o/ |
15:45 | Oak | \o> |
15:45 | who will do the titanic? | |
15:45 | wizzyrea | /o\ |
15:46 | slef | rhcl: http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk/voting is our local. Yay lack of standardisation ;-) |
15:46 | Oak | __8__ <-- Titanic |
15:46 | oleonard | ? |
15:47 | Oak | ! |
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15:51 | coryj | Another 1/2 pot of coffee and I'll be coherent. |
15:51 | jwagner | oleonard, the bug report you referred to on the listserv is Bug 5199, correct? |
15:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5199 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Renewals do not add branchcode to statistics table |
15:52 | oleonard | Yes |
15:52 | jwagner | OK, thanks. I hadn't seen that one fly by.... |
15:52 | oleonard | It's been a bug in Koha forever |
15:53 | nengard | would love to see that one fixed |
15:53 | slef | random question: why is it OPAC username on the Edit Patron screen when it works on the librarian interface? |
15:53 | nengard | no clue |
15:53 | it's very confusing to librarians | |
15:53 | I'm a-ok with changing it to just 'username' | |
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15:59 | nengard | slef, i'm going to report a enh request for that, to see if anyone has any objections - it's something I can easily fix if everyone wants it fixed |
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15:59 | slef | nengard: thanks! |
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16:01 | nengard | looking for feedback on bug 6312 before i make code changes |
16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6312 enhancement, P5, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , login/password shouldn't be labeled as 'opac' |
16:06 | gmcharlt | nengard: agree that a more generic name for the username field makes sense |
16:06 | nengard | good stuff |
16:08 | Oak | have not heard many people say 'good stuff' :) |
16:08 | good stuff! | |
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16:11 | adnc_ | hi koha |
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16:13 | mib_2swanq | hi koha community :) |
16:14 | I have one little question about koha and marc frameworks. | |
16:14 | Oak | we only entertain big questions here |
16:14 | nengard | got me two +1 so I'll write up that patch now |
16:15 | mib_2swanq | it can be big depending on your answer :P |
16:16 | i've created one subfield 942$n - Suppress to suppress some records from OPAC | |
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16:17 | mib_2swanq | the records with 0 appears in the OPAC, with 1 don't appear |
16:17 | the Zebra indexation works fine | |
16:18 | the omission value is 1 (after creation the records doesn't appear in OPAC) | |
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16:20 | mib_2swanq | now I wanted to omit the subfield in the default model, so I've changed the value of the managed tab to ignored |
16:20 | but with that change the records are created with no 942$n subfield filled | |
16:21 | my doubt is how to omit the 942$n subfield from default model and it be filled by omission with value 1? | |
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16:24 | mib_2swanq | no one? |
16:24 | wahanui | it has been said that no one is denying that biblibre is doing good work here - it just seems odd to me that one of the biggest companies should introduce new "things" that break old "things" that a lot of people still want... |
16:24 | slef | sorry |
16:24 | I'm a bit busy today. | |
16:25 | nengard | slef, patch written to solve your issue :) |
16:25 | wizzyrea | wahanui: forget no one |
16:25 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot no one |
16:25 | slef | mib_2swanq: I'm doing this without looking, but don't you want hidden rather than ignored? |
16:25 | * slef | looks it up |
16:26 | mib_2swanq | i've tried all types of hidden (-9...9) but by some reason after creation the subfield appears in the record edition |
16:27 | bu i can try again | |
16:27 | slef | ah yeah, the problem is defaulting to 1 |
16:28 | grml | |
16:28 | mib_2swanq | grml? |
16:28 | slef | like grumble but quicker |
16:29 | I'm not a librarian and definitely not a cataloguer and dislike being reminded of my inadequacy ;-) | |
16:29 | so what are you putting for Managed in tab, Default value and Hidden? | |
16:31 | mib_2swanq | now i'm trying 9 (managed in tab), 1 default value, hidden -5... |
16:31 | I my problem is solved looool | |
16:32 | slef | anyway, I've got to go vote. Let's see if nengard or wizzyrea understand this <vbg> |
16:32 | nengard++ for the username patch | |
16:33 | joetho | voting, by God (?) |
16:33 | mib_2swanq | thanks slef anyway :) |
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16:42 | coryj | gmcharlt: zebra_rebuild.pl -x still appears to include "&" in the indexes if there is an & in the title. |
16:43 | I'm just going to ignore that for now and assume nobody will be doing a title search for "amp" | |
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17:10 | mib_2swanq | what does this system preference ReservesNeedReturns ? |
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17:21 | oleonard | mib_2swanq: If turned on, it means that items will not be marked as "waiting" until you check them in |
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17:28 | mib_2swanq | so it's better to turn it on if i want to put one reserve on problematic after 2 days |
17:29 | after check in... | |
17:29 | oleonard | mib_2swanq: Are you referring to the holds awaiting pickup report? |
17:31 | mib_2swanq | what i need to have: if a item is checked out the others patrons can reserve it, after checked in the patron in first on the queue have 2 days to get the book |
17:32 | oleonard | mib_2swanq: The ReservesNeedReturns is unrelated to your requirement I think |
17:32 | See ReservesMaxPickUpDelay instead | |
17:32 | That should be set to 2 | |
17:33 | And I believe there is a cron job that needs to run in order to automatically cancel holds | |
17:33 | mib_2swanq | yes... I have the cronjob and the system preference set to 2 |
17:33 | it's all i need | |
17:33 | ? | |
17:34 | oleonard | I think so |
17:34 | mib_2swanq | ok thanks... |
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17:34 | mib_2swanq | :) |
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17:37 | mib_2swanq | but i'm having a problem that after a item is check in the patron in first place on queue is not receiving the email saying that the hold is filled |
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17:39 | oleonard | mib_2swanq: If you go to /cgi-bin/koha/members/notices.pl?borrowernumber=XX can you see notices queued for the patron? |
17:40 | mib_2swanq | yes... check in and checked out notices are being sent |
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17:43 | mib_2swanq | i think that i'm closing to the problem.... when using the returns.pl in the circulation menu i think that the email is sent |
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17:44 | mib_2swanq | in the tab check out of patrons when check in the items the email isn't sent |
17:44 | oleonard | mib_2swanq: That's not surprising, that function is buggy |
17:45 | I recommend not using it. | |
17:45 | mib_2swanq | which function? |
17:45 | 2 option? | |
17:45 | oleonard | Checking in items from the list of checkouts on the circulation or patron detail screen |
17:46 | Bug 3514 | |
17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3514 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions |
17:47 | mib_2swanq | hummm ok... but I can see that there is a patch... |
17:48 | oleonard | A very minor patch which doesn't do that much to fix the problem |
17:48 | (and I say that as the patch author) | |
17:50 | mib_2swanq | this is a problem, because the library is using the patron detail page for check in and i need to trigger the holds |
17:50 | oleonard | You can't, not unless you fix that bug. |
17:50 | You have to use returns.pl | |
17:53 | mib_2swanq | :/ if the renewscript.pl and return.pl shoudn't be that different |
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17:53 | cait | hi all |
17:54 | mib_2swanq | i have to fix the bug by some way.... there is only thing that's is not correctly working in my system |
17:55 | oleonard | mib_2swanq, you will be cheered by all if you can fix it. |
17:56 | mib_2swanq | i'll look to it tomorrow... now it's time to go home and watch Braga-Benfica (yes i'm portuguese :)) |
17:59 | thanks for all the help oleanard | |
17:59 | *oleonard | |
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18:07 | * coryj | shakes his fist at NickServ. "Darn bots!" |
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18:10 | wizzyrea | ah question re: framework export |
18:11 | when you export, does it bring with it any associated authvalues definitions? | |
18:11 | or even tell you what they are, so that you can replicate on the new system? | |
18:12 | oleonard | Hmm.... What are the chances that it does? |
18:13 | wizzyrea | probably close to zero :P |
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18:14 | rhcl | wizzyrea: one of my librarians asked me if there was a koha-specific smart app that apparently some library ILSs have. Something that is designed to connect to an OPAC but specifically designed for a hand-held device. Know of anything like this? |
18:14 | wizzyrea | yep |
18:14 | a few actually | |
18:14 | rhcl | I'm all ears |
18:14 | wizzyrea | kiritiaki koha for android |
18:14 | libraryanywhere for iphone/android | |
18:14 | I am sure I didn't spell that right let me go find the right spelling | |
18:15 | rhcl | well. Thanks for the info. |
18:15 | wizzyrea | oh, no I didn't! |
18:15 | http://www.appbrain.com/app/ki[…]lyst.KiritakiKoha | |
18:15 | oh, wait, yes I did | |
18:15 | kiritaki koha | |
18:15 | libanywhere also works with blackberry | |
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18:16 | wizzyrea | libanywhere is a service, though |
18:16 | hey LSG | |
18:16 | library_systems_guy | hey wizzyrea |
18:16 | wahanui | rumour has it wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
18:16 | wizzyrea | whahanui: shh |
18:16 | library_systems_guy | long time no see |
18:16 | wizzyrea | ^.^ busy week :) |
18:16 | library_systems_guy | indeed |
18:16 | finals next week | |
18:16 | lots of studying | |
18:18 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
18:18 | library_systems_guy | is nengard around anywhere? |
18:18 | nengard | she might be |
18:18 | let me go look for her | |
18:19 | library_systems_guy | lol nengard :) |
18:19 | nengard | hiya! |
18:19 | I so don't miss having finals | |
18:19 | what's up? | |
18:19 | library_systems_guy | i won't...in a year |
18:19 | anyway | |
18:20 | remember that ticket you submitted about the shelf browser not working in 3.4 | |
18:20 | today was my first chance to do an upgrade since then | |
18:20 | and Margo just informed me that it still wasn't working | |
18:21 | nengard | is it a diff problem or the same? I forget if that patch was pushed |
18:21 | any chance you remember the bug number? | |
18:21 | library_systems_guy | blargh...no cleaned out my inbox |
18:21 | let me check with margo | |
18:22 | bug 6263 | |
18:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6263 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, shelf browser doesn't work in 3.4 |
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18:23 | oleonard | library_systems_guy: Have you updated since the patch was pushed? The shelf browser appeared to be working fine for me today |
18:23 | library_systems_guy | i just did |
18:23 | druthb | o/ |
18:24 | oleonard | How is it failing? |
18:24 | library_systems_guy | oh wait |
18:24 | i did a git fetch and pulled patches | |
18:24 | but i just did a git pull and got a bunch more stuff | |
18:25 | nengard | also remember the rebase part |
18:26 | library_systems_guy | true...bah |
18:27 | maybe i should change my name to forgetful_library_systems_guy | |
18:27 | druthb | lol |
18:28 | rhcl | wizzyrea: we need a quarterly MOKAN region KUDOS meeting/social event |
18:28 | oleonard | Be fair, library_systems_guy_who_forgot_that_one_time_but_who_will_remember_now |
18:28 | library_systems_guy | oh oleonard...you got me |
18:28 | joetho | MOKANOK |
18:29 | bg_ | @wunder 93109 |
18:29 | @wunder 93109 | |
18:29 | huginn | bg_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.0�C (11:31 AM PDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). |
18:29 | joetho | <--recovering kohite |
18:29 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
18:29 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.2�C (2:30 PM EDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
18:29 | bg_ | ah nice to be back home |
18:29 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
18:29 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 18.1�C (2:32 PM EDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
18:29 | druthb | @wunder madison, wi |
18:29 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Middleton, Wisconsin is 13.0�C (1:15 PM CDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
18:30 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
18:30 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.9�C (8:30 PM CEST on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
18:30 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
18:30 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Maple Point, Langhorne, Pennsylvania is 16.9�C (2:30 PM EDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
18:30 | druthb | not *that* much colder in Madison, bg_. All that drama over a few degrees.. |
18:30 | bg_ | it was like 5~7 when we where there |
18:31 | druthb | (I was running around in knee-length skirts, and bg_ was bundled up like an Inuit. I was greatly amused.) |
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18:31 | joetho | @wunder mcmurdo station |
18:31 | huginn | joetho: The current temperature in McMurdo, Antarctica is -31.0�C (6:00 AM NZST on May 06, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -38.0�C. Pressure: 29.31 in 992 hPa (Falling). |
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18:37 | library_systems_guy | nengard, thanks for the rebase bit, that fixed it |
18:37 | nengard | good stuff |
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18:43 | wizzyrea | is it on the wiki "how to update your git install" |
18:44 | the steps I mean? | |
18:44 | cuzn if it's not, it should be | |
18:44 | aka how not to muck up your repo | |
18:46 | library_systems_guy | i think it is...but i think its closer to the install stuff |
18:46 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
18:46 | thats what i referred to | |
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19:17 | oleonard | Big PTFS day on the mailing list today |
19:17 | Encouraged by KudosCon I wonder? | |
19:19 | rhcl | I must be not getting some emails--do you have a specific email subject or DTG for that? |
19:20 | oleonard | "CCL query query" |
19:20 | rangi | and the renewals statistics one |
19:21 | rhcl | this is on "koha", right? I just started popping all my email to gmail and it's goofy I think |
19:21 | oleonard | Yes |
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19:25 | cait | owen: seeing the mails |
19:25 | what about the library that owns the item? | |
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19:26 | cait | if we have to put a brnach in there. I would like to have an option to find out about opac vs staff renewals |
19:26 | and meant oleonard | |
19:26 | oleonard | The item's home branch seems least relevant to me since it could have been checked out from any branch |
19:27 | cait | they bought the item and made it available for others - why not count the renewal for them? |
19:27 | oleonard | Maybe so, but we don't count other circs that way |
19:27 | cait | hm ok |
19:27 | rangi | see if you guys make it hard |
19:27 | ill never do a patch | |
19:27 | hehe | |
19:27 | cait | rangi: i want to leave it empty - but I might be alone on that ;) |
19:28 | I think opac renwal has no place it belongs to really | |
19:28 | rangi | but if i must, i could do a syspref |
19:28 | cait | it's an opac rnewal |
19:28 | rangi | opacrenewalbranch |
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19:28 | rangi | 'null','itemhomebranch','branchissuedfrom','patronhomebranch' |
19:28 | cait | hm |
19:29 | rangi | and try to solve all you fellas at once |
19:29 | cait | crazy :P |
19:30 | oleonard | Like I said, I'll take pretty much anything over nothing if it comes to that (sorry cait) |
19:30 | cait | no problem :) |
19:31 | ok... I will say it... could we add something ot make it show as opac renwal? | |
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19:31 | rangi | cait: sure, how about OPAC |
19:32 | could be just another option for the syspref | |
19:32 | i have to go feed atarua | |
19:32 | atarau even | |
19:32 | oleonard | There was a Harley feature, I think, that showed counts for staff/OPAC renewals on the patron detail page |
19:32 | rangi | if someone wanted to update the bug, ill do it when i get to work |
19:32 | wizzyrea | there was |
19:33 | cait | I am checking dbs and bix right now - the german library statistics |
19:33 | what they require | |
19:33 | rangi | im leaning towards the syspref, cos then it can please everyone |
19:33 | and its easy to just add another value to it | |
19:33 | * rangi | will bbiab |
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19:35 | wizzyrea | wb sekjal |
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19:36 | sekjal | thanks, wizzyrea. cable guy is playing with the wires on the pole outside.. hopefully I'm stable for a while longer |
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19:37 | sekjal | okay, cable guy is folding up the ladder.. should be stable for a while... |
19:38 | oleonard | You're too late to slip him some cash for free HBO |
19:40 | cait | oleonard: I will ask our statistics expert tomorrow :) |
19:42 | oleonard: probably you are right | |
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20:03 | rangi | back |
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20:04 | wizzyrea | jwagner: about? |
20:04 | Brooke | kia ora |
20:05 | wizzyrea | err reading fail |
20:05 | rangi | heh |
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20:05 | cait | hi Brooke |
20:05 | sekjal | alright, internet is all set up for the new house! and, apparently, if I plug in a TV, there's free basic cable what comes with internet service |
20:05 | druthb | kia ora, Brooke. :) |
20:05 | sekjal | not that I particularly want to watch TV, but... |
20:05 | rangi | cool sekjal |
20:05 | Brooke | :) |
20:05 | wizzyrea | @later tell jwagner are your kudos slides available online anywherE? |
20:05 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
20:06 | cait | sekjal: ... but you could if you wanted to? :) |
20:06 | grats on the new house :) | |
20:07 | sekjal | cait: thanks! lots of work, but worth it |
20:07 | (the house, not watching TV... in case I was unclear) | |
20:07 | Brooke | where's the new lodge? *pry pry* |
20:09 | sekjal | Brooke: South Deerfield, MA. Just down the street from MassCat (a Koha library system we support) |
20:09 | Brooke | bwwewhwerahwehraher |
20:09 | good on you | |
20:09 | now, this is of extreme import | |
20:10 | if you go over the little Blue Bridge into Sunderland | |
20:10 | there used to be a lovely little cafe that served a wicked little pulled pork sandwich across the street from the bank | |
20:10 | their shakes are divine, as well. | |
20:13 | http://bridgesidegrille.com/lunch.cfm | |
20:13 | The Blue Heron is nice for an upscale option, too. | |
20:13 | sekjal | we've been to Blue Heron... very nice |
20:13 | will check out Bridgeside | |
20:15 | Brooke | there are scant few places I've not dined in that neighbourhood, and I've the stomach to prove it. |
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20:17 | sekjal | Brooke: you still get up this way much? |
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20:18 | * Brooke | shifts on her feet. |
20:18 | Brooke | mebbe so, mebbe no, young man. |
20:19 | anyone have a flickr stream from KUDOS? | |
20:19 | rangi | coveritlive |
20:20 | wizzyrea | sadly, i don't think there was an official one |
20:20 | rangi | on the kudos site |
20:20 | wizzyrea | I didn't see many people taking pictures |
20:20 | we were all too busy gabbing! | |
20:20 | rangi | had one link I think? |
20:20 | wizzyrea | possibly |
20:20 | rangi | u needed a kristina |
20:20 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6308] Show number of comments on the "Comments" tab in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6308> |
20:20 | wizzyrea | we all do |
20:20 | :) | |
20:20 | gmcharlt | rangi: am I remembering correctly that it's May 22nd for 3.4.1? |
20:21 | rangi | yep |
20:21 | gmcharlt | thanks |
20:21 | rangi | and may 15 for 3.2.8 |
20:21 | chris_n can correct me | |
20:22 | Brooke | ye gods, gmcharlt must have secured Elven assistance to make this happen. |
20:22 | rangi | course may 21 is my birthday |
20:22 | Brooke | that so? |
20:22 | gmcharlt | rangi: so you give other people presents on your birthday? :) |
20:22 | Brooke | so it |
20:22 | is | |
20:22 | 38 years | |
20:22 | rangi | well chris_n will be doing most of it |
20:22 | Brooke | gmcharlt: his birthday is hardly my wedding :P |
20:23 | rangi | have u seen the cherry pick page on the wiki |
20:23 | thats how we are tracking | |
20:23 | is working pretty well | |
20:23 | I push to master | |
20:24 | and let him know the ones I think should be in 3.4.1 | |
20:24 | I've only got one wrong so far :) | |
20:24 | gmcharlt | :) |
20:24 | rangi++ | |
20:24 | chris_n++ | |
20:25 | cait | ah I have to check that |
20:25 | rangi | ok my stop |
20:25 | cait | the page |
20:25 | wahanui | the page is up, but no one stepped up |
20:25 | rangi | brb after coffee |
20:26 | wizzyrea | wahanui: forget the page |
20:26 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot page |
20:27 | joetho | Happy Sinkful Of Mayo |
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20:35 | rangi | back |
20:35 | Brooke | welcome back |
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20:40 | Brooke | bonjour hdl. |
20:41 | hdl | Hi Brooke |
20:41 | rangi | hi hdl |
20:42 | hdl | Hi rangi |
20:42 | rangi | #koha: did we have a bug number for that renewals branch? |
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20:46 | rangi | a bit of friday happiness |
20:46 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3fcZHlFRI | |
20:48 | Brooke | Kua haere au. |
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20:58 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a pleasant time of the day |
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21:30 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6313] Adding option to "attach another item" when finished attaching items <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6313> |
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21:49 | rangi | hmm should i put the OpacRenewalsBranch in the circulation or opac tab for preferences? |
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21:49 | rangi | im leaning towards circ |
21:50 | * wizzyrea | is contrary |
21:50 | wizzyrea | i'd go with opac |
21:50 | both make sense tho | |
21:50 | i'm not helping. just call me the waffler | |
21:50 | rangi | heh |
21:50 | wizzyrea | follow your gut, go with circ lol |
21:51 | rangi | will do, someone can counter patch me if they want :) |
21:54 | actually ive changed to opac | |
21:54 | because thats where | |
21:54 | OpacRenewalAllowed | |
21:54 | is | |
21:54 | ill put it right by that | |
21:54 | wizzyrea | :) |
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22:05 | * chris_n | always follows his gut when it comes to food ;-) |
22:18 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
22:18 | chris_n | off to second shift |
22:20 | rangi | :) |
22:27 | moodaepo | @weather 56001 |
22:27 | huginn | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 16.3�C (5:30 PM CDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
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22:44 | adnc_ | No branches with active overduerules at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 296. |
22:44 | can someone help me interprete this? | |
22:45 | it comes as mail after a cronjob | |
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23:27 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5199] Renewals do not add branchcode to statistics table <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5199> |
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23:45 | rangi | @quote random |
23:45 | huginn | rangi: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
23:54 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
23:54 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.7�C (4:56 PM PDT on May 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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