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| 00:29 | druthb | kia ora. :) |
| 00:35 | rangi | heya |
| 00:56 | druthb | :) |
| 00:56 | eythian | hi |
| 00:56 | wahanui | salut, eythian |
| 01:11 | glernil | can someone help me on configuring nullmailer to send notifications? |
| 01:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6156, Misaligned column in cart print view <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11bc8b5fe539b756f> / Bug 5859: Allow user to set encoding for import <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1cdef437d49568cc9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3072' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
| 01:11 | rangi | glernil: you have a smarthost that nullmailer is relaying through? |
| 01:12 | glernil | smarthost? i just want to use gmail.. is it possible? |
| 01:12 | rangi | ah yes |
| 01:13 | glernil | i already read much from different sources.. but i just can't figure it out.. |
| 01:13 | i already installed nullmailer | |
| 01:13 | rangi | are you in production yet? |
| 01:13 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5251 | |
| 01:13 | huginn | 04Bug 5251: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Add support for using a gmail account as an SMTP server. |
| 01:14 | rangi | cos thats in 3.4.0 to be released on friday (available in git now) |
| 01:14 | glernil | i'm not in production.. i'm still testing the feature on a virtual machine |
| 01:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 192 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 2 h ago) |
| 01:14 | glernil | i'm using 3.2.7 the latest bug fix version |
| 01:15 | rangi | lemme check if it is in there |
| 01:15 | i think it is | |
| 01:15 | glernil | tnx |
| 01:16 | rangi | ah nope not in 3.2.7 |
| 01:16 | thats a shame | |
| 01:17 | i havent ever actually done it with nullmailer im afraid | |
| 01:21 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6185, holds slip says 'reserve' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5cb8ddbe7149644a> |
| 01:23 | glernil | is there any wrong in using nullmailer? |
| 01:23 | rangi | nope should work afaik |
| 01:23 | ive just never configured it | |
| 01:23 | glernil | ok.. but will it be included in 3.4? |
| 01:24 | rangi | not using nullmailer but a way to do it |
| 01:24 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5251 | |
| 01:24 | huginn | 04Bug 5251: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Add support for using a gmail account as an SMTP server. |
| 01:24 | rangi | if you have a read of that |
| 01:24 | but i think people have done it with nullmailer in the past | |
| 01:24 | basically | |
| 01:24 | if you can send mail from the commandline | |
| 01:24 | mail -s "test" youremail.address |
|
| 01:25 | type some stuff | |
| 01:25 | hit ctrl-d | |
| 01:25 | if that works then koha will work | |
| 01:25 | so basically you just have to get nullmailer able to send mail, its pretty independent of koha | |
| 01:25 | * rangi | hopes that helps |
| 01:26 | glernil | i tried to send email using mail -s "test" youremail.address but there is an error |
| 01:26 | rangi | what was the error? |
| 01:26 | glernil | Please install an MTA on this system if you want to use sendmail! |
| 01:26 | Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 255 | |
| 01:27 | so this means i havent configured right my nullmailer installation? | |
| 01:27 | rangi | so im guessing nullmailer is not running/configured |
| 01:27 | yeah | |
| 01:27 | glernil | so i have to configure first nullmailer.. tnx |
| 01:27 | rangi | yup |
| 01:28 | once you can send mail from your machine, then koha will be happy too | |
| 01:28 | glernil | ok. got to work on it.. |
| 01:29 | can you give any site for my reference? | |
| 01:30 | rangi | yep |
| 01:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4389 - [tt] Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b67b2585b25d1a5c9> |
| 01:31 | rangi | http://jonspriggs.posterous.co[…]g-the-command-lin |
| 01:31 | looks like it might work | |
| 01:31 | bearing in mind i have never tried this | |
| 01:32 | glernil | i tried the instructions in that link but i got an error on the second line |
| 01:33 | thanks for the help.. gtg. bye | |
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| 01:33 | rangi | hello hello :) |
| 01:34 | if you want to choose a different nickname hello you can type | |
| 01:34 | eythian | glernil: the commands there need to be split up across multiple lines |
| 01:34 | hello | Motwlibrary |
| 01:34 | eythian | they aren't like that in the blog |
| 01:34 | rangi | /nick somethingelse (without the leading space) |
| 01:35 | hello left #koha | |
| 01:36 | rangi | or you could close the window instead : |
| 01:36 | ) | |
| 01:37 | ibeardslee | heh |
| 01:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6189 - renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]263da03725360cf34> / Remove redundant variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52fbae5625a4b9d5d> / Bug 6195 : Opac user should not have serial manage tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
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| 01:43 | rangi | trying mibbit instead eh? |
| 01:43 | mib_renae | ok im a begiiner have no idea what im doing |
| 01:44 | im trying to find Chris | |
| 01:44 | rangi | thats ok, mostly you just type |
| 01:44 | you found him | |
| 01:44 | mib_renae | oh great im from MOTWLibrary we have been tweeting |
| 01:45 | rangi | yup |
| 01:45 | mib_renae | is that u |
| 01:45 | rangi | yes |
| 01:46 | mib_renae | can u help me get Koha running on my linux/ubuntu stand alone |
| 01:46 | rangi | sure can, what version of ubuntu? |
| 01:46 | mib_renae | maverick |
| 01:47 | rangi | cool |
| 01:47 | are you familair with linux? | |
| 01:47 | mib_renae | would it be better if i was on it now as im not at the moment |
| 01:47 | no only put linux on for Koha and I have it duel with windows | |
| 01:48 | im have a little bit of understanding as i have tried to install koha already | |
| 01:49 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha |
| 01:50 | i would follow that, but for this line | |
| 01:50 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main | |
| 01:50 | i would make | |
| 01:50 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 01:51 | but if you follw the rest of the instructions you should have a working koha up, using the packages (which makes upgrading very easy) | |
| 01:51 | thats the way i would do it at least | |
| 01:52 | mib_renae | does it matter if i have already install stuff or should i start from clean install |
| 01:52 | rangi | how did you install stuff the last time? |
| 01:52 | mib_renae | of linux i mean |
| 01:52 | command line in ubuntu | |
| 01:52 | rangi | nope, you dont need a clean linux |
| 01:53 | but you dont have a half installed koha already? | |
| 01:53 | if so, probably easiest to start clean | |
| 01:53 | but if you have just installed some other software, thats fine | |
| 01:53 | mib_renae | what would be a half install |
| 01:53 | i downloaded it and unzipped it | |
| 01:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #192: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/192/ |
| 01:54 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM | |
| 01:54 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5859: Allow user to set encoding for import | |
| 01:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE |
| 01:54 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6156, Misaligned column in cart print view |
| 01:54 | rangi | well you have 2 options we can keep going with that route, if you can remember where you got up to, or you could start fresh with the packages |
| 01:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5859 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Can't set character encoding with stage MARC records |
| 01:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6156 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Misaligned column in cart print view | |
| 01:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 193 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 2 h ago) |
| 01:55 | mib_renae | what is all that |
| 01:56 | rangi | thats just one of the bots (a program) running tests on koha |
| 01:56 | it does it every time a change is made | |
| 01:57 | snail | mib_renae: think of it as a quality control over the code |
| 01:59 | mib_renae | ok so i am a little lost where im upto as i hve back tracked trying to get it to run i get to the mysql to cd to koha and it wont find it |
| 01:59 | says theres no file when it is clearly ther | |
| 01:59 | anyway i will try what u gave me and start again if that is not working i will reinstall linux and start fresh | |
| 02:00 | rangi | cool, using the packages will make your life a lot easier when upgrade time comes |
| 02:02 | mib_renae | ok so u r saying all i have to do is use the packages and it will do most of it for me |
| 02:02 | using the terminal | |
| 02:02 | rangi | yes |
| 02:03 | mib_renae | i just had a look at the link i jus type in the instructions and change the line and thats it |
| 02:03 | rangi | yeah you just have to follow the instructions |
| 02:04 | mib_renae | ok so if there is any problems can i talk to u again |
| 02:04 | rangi | yep |
| 02:05 | mib_renae | great alright then im determined to get Koha happening for the library thank so much for your help |
| 02:05 | cheers | |
| 02:05 | rangi | no problem good luck |
| 02:06 | eythian | rangi: fyi there still seem to be references to html::template::pro in koha |
| 02:07 | mib_renae | not sure what u r saying is this important |
| 02:07 | eythian | not to you it isn't :) |
| 02:08 | mib_renae | ok bye then |
| 02:08 | rangi | eythian: yeah there will be the odd custom script that wasnt using C4/Output |
| 02:08 | eythian | yeah |
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| 02:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #193: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/193/ |
| 02:34 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6185, holds slip says 'reserve' | |
| 02:34 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 4389 - [tt] Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit | |
| 02:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6185 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, holds slip says 'reserve' |
| 02:34 | jenkins_koha | * Colin Campbell: Bug 6195 : Opac user should not have serial manage tab |
| 02:34 | * Colin Campbell: Remove redundant variable | |
| 02:34 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6189 - renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout | |
| 02:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4389 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Trigger quick slip print on empty checkout submit |
| 02:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6195 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, manage tab in opac on serials | |
| 02:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6189 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, renewal warning should say 'renew' not checkout | |
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| 02:56 | mib_renae | Hello chris |
| 02:57 | having some trouble | |
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| 02:59 | mib_renae | r u there |
| 02:59 | eythian | Hey everyone, 3.2.7 packages uploaded (and a new 3.3 from master) |
| 03:00 | mib_renae: you should describe your trouble, otherwise no one can help. | |
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| 03:03 | mib_renae | ok chris gave me install instructions for Koha in terminal on ubuntu it says kohabox$ not a command |
| 03:03 | rangi | thats an example prompt |
| 03:04 | eythian | everything after the '$' is the command you type. That way it looks sorta like the prompt in your own terminal. |
| 03:04 | rangi | what he said :) |
| 03:04 | mib_renae | oh ok now i feel simple |
| 03:05 | eythian | :) |
| 03:05 | mib_renae | where it says add this line do u put that in on the same command line or next line |
| 03:05 | druthb | rangi++ #freekin' BRILLIANT! |
| 03:06 | space_librarian | I guess the crosswalking will work then? :) |
| 03:06 | rangi | mib_renae: that bit above it the sudo vi bit |
| 03:06 | that should have opened vi (a text editor) | |
| 03:06 | you might be better off typing | |
| 03:07 | sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| 03:07 | and then at the bottom of the file it opens add | |
| 03:07 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 03:07 | mib_renae | ok will do that |
| 03:07 | * rangi | has to do go prepare for a demo tomorrow but i will be back later |
| 03:09 | druthb | space_librarian: buy him a beer for me, plz? |
| 03:10 | space_librarian | druthb: I can do that, no probs |
| 03:10 | druthb | thanks oodles. |
| 03:11 | space_librarian | :) |
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| 03:18 | AmitG | heya all |
| 03:18 | heya chris | |
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| 03:21 | mib_renae | h chris got a problem again |
| 03:21 | when i get to bottom of the file where do i add this line | |
| 03:24 | there is no add at the bottom | |
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| 04:21 | mib_renae | hello |
| 04:21 | wahanui | privet, mib_renae |
| 04:22 | mib_renae | need help with koha install |
| 04:22 | rangi | where did you get to? |
| 04:22 | have you added that line to the bottom of the file? | |
| 04:23 | mib_renae | using ubuntu mav after sources list command line get there is no add line to add deb http koha community line |
| 04:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d552f6e06affaea97> / 5917 : Working on the translation script, fixing the line breakages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e891b9c5fdfa3bab8> |
| 04:24 | mib_renae | get a e325 before going into it |
| 04:25 | rangi | what command did you run? |
| 04:25 | mib_renae | trying to add the line but it wont let me or Im doing it wrong |
| 04:25 | rangi | yes, what exactly did you run to edit the file? |
| 04:26 | mib_renae | sudo vi etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:26 | rangi | right well what i said was |
| 04:27 | 15:08 < rangi> you might be better off typing | |
| 04:27 | 15:08 < rangi> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| 04:27 | mtj | or use nano or pico, to edit files? |
| 04:27 | rangi | because i dont think you have ever used vi before right? |
| 04:27 | mib_renae | no |
| 04:27 | rangi | mtj: they wont be installed, gedit will |
| 04:27 | mtj | n00bs find those editors a bit easyier |
| 04:28 | mib_renae | gedit is that like vi |
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| 04:28 | rangi | no |
| 04:29 | its more like notepad on windows | |
| 04:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 194 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 5 h ago) |
| 04:29 | mib_renae | oh |
| 04:29 | im really green on this stuff | |
| 04:30 | can u give me the exact command to do | |
| 04:30 | rangi | sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:30 | mib_renae | i tried that but i get a whole row of arrow things |
| 04:30 | i will try again can u wait | |
| 04:32 | ok got it up now so i just go to the end and start typing in the commands | |
| 04:32 | rangi | cut and paste would be better |
| 04:32 | and there is only one line you have to type there | |
| 04:32 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 04:33 | mtj | mib_renae: you simply need to practice 'editing a file' before you are going to succeed... |
| 04:33 | mib_renae | ok ive done that now i just save and exit |
| 04:33 | mtj | mib_renae: have a google-about for 'editing a file on ubuntu' |
| 04:34 | mib_renae | ok |
| 04:34 | mtj | yep, thats right |
| 04:35 | make sure you dont have any typos, computers are bitchy about typos | |
| 04:35 | mib_renae | ok now i just do the next lot of commands |
| 04:35 | rangi | yes 3 commands |
| 04:35 | then another file to edit | |
| 04:35 | mib_renae | the first command has a long bar i dont recognise what is it |
| 04:35 | after asc | |
| 04:36 | rangi | thats why i said cut and paste |
| 04:36 | but if you need to type it | |
| 04:36 | its on the \ key | |
| 04:36 | mib_renae | oh double line |
| 04:36 | rangi | shift+\ on most keyboards |
| 04:36 | mib_renae | got it |
| 04:36 | eythian | mib_renae: don't type it |
| 04:36 | mib_renae: copy and paste it | |
| 04:36 | you _will_ make a mistake and it will get confusing if you type it. | |
| 04:36 | mib_renae | from the wiki file |
| 04:37 | eythian | yeah |
| 04:38 | mib_renae | ok will do probably be back im sure thank u once again |
| 04:49 | hello again | |
| 04:50 | im upto confirguring nullmailer | |
| 04:50 | what do i do | |
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| 04:52 | eythian | I wouldn't. I'd leave that until later when other things are working. |
| 04:52 | mib_renae | -i have just selected ok |
| 04:52 | rangi | nullmailer? |
| 04:52 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 04:53 | mib_renae | it t was a blue screen for configuring |
| 04:53 | eythian | talofa kmkale |
| 04:53 | oh righ | |
| 04:53 | well then it's probably working, assuming you filled it out | |
| 04:53 | kmkale | hi eythian |
| 04:53 | hi rangi | |
| 04:55 | space_librarian | hey kmkale |
| 04:55 | kmkale | hi space_librarian |
| 04:55 | :) | |
| 04:55 | space_librarian | :) |
| 04:55 | mib_renae | i didn't put anything in just selected ok |
| 04:56 | eythian | well, when you selected OK, what was it telling you? |
| 04:57 | mib_renae | nothing just went to the next screen I did the same thing it left the configure box and kept doing the setting up stuff |
| 04:58 | eythian | yeah, but it only pops up those boxes when it's giving you information or telling you that you need to do something. What did it say? |
| 04:59 | * space_librarian | waves good evening. |
| 04:59 | mib_renae | it was about mail |
| 04:59 | i can't remember it all sorry | |
| 05:00 | iam | |
| 05:01 | iam in the sudo vi /etc/koh/koha-sites.conf do i just type cut and past the next lot of commands | |
| 05:02 | eythian | well, they're not commands. They're things to put into the text file. But yes. Although, I'd suggest using 'gedit' instead of 'vi' as was recommended earlier. |
| 05:02 | mib_renae | well how do i get out of the vi |
| 05:02 | to gedit | |
| 05:02 | eythian | press ESC, then :q! |
| 05:03 | then enter | |
| 05:03 | mib_renae | ok so same line but use gedit right |
| 05:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Updating package lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70d8c1c0b5cc84d64> |
| 05:03 | eythian | yes |
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| 05:05 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:05 | mib_renae | ok so im in this box so i just cut and past the lines |
| 05:05 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:05 | yep | |
| 05:05 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:06 | mib_renae | then save and exit |
| 05:06 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:09 | mib_renae | ok done the last 3 lines am is it all complete now |
| 05:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #194: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/194/ |
| 05:09 | Chris Cormack: 5917 : Working on the translation script, fixing the line breakages | |
| 05:09 | Starting build 195 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 6 h ago) | |
| 05:10 | eythian | should be |
| 05:11 | mib_renae | ok thank you so much i just leave the terminal now is that ok |
| 05:11 | eythian | yep |
| 05:11 | cait | !jenkins botsnack cookie |
| 05:11 | jenkins_koha | cait: great! yum yum. I really like that cookie |
| 05:11 | mib_renae | great :D im very happy |
| 05:12 | thank you all | |
| 05:12 | eythian | Although, if you're planning on running a production server, I'd _really_ recommend either getting someone to teach you sysadmin skills (not a small field) or just getting someone to maintain it for you. |
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| 05:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5917 : We need to catch the comments for the xslt to work <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e146781dfa50938ce> |
| 05:25 | cait | rangi++ |
| 05:31 | ... installing | |
| 05:39 | ...updating | |
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| 05:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #195: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/195/ |
| 05:49 | Chris Cormack: Updating package lists | |
| 05:49 | Starting build 196 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #190 4 j 6 h ago) | |
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| 05:56 | cait | rangi? |
| 05:56 | wahanui | well, rangi is asking for a vote on the next meeting i think |
| 05:57 | cait | forget rangi |
| 05:57 | wahanui | cait: I forgot rangi |
| 05:58 | cait | @later tell rangi xslt seems translatable now |
| 05:58 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:59 | cait | @later tell rangi Cart and LIsts buttons won't translate, tabs in borrower account (my ...) are also not translated |
| 05:59 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:00 | cait | @later also we have a gazillion comments in the po file, that need no translation "%s<!-- We tried to issue, but failed. --> " |
| 06:00 | huginn | cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 06:00 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 06:01 | cait | @later tell rangi also we have a gazillion comments in the po file, that need no translation "%s<!-- We tried to issue, but failed. --> " |
| 06:01 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:01 | cait | hm ok |
| 06:02 | braedon | ... perhaps i am just sleep deprived, but i am totally confused by that exchange... |
| 06:03 | cait | I was leaving messages for rangi and the bots felt left out |
| 06:05 | braedon | haha, so i figured, but some of their replies... |
| 06:05 | they seem to have been upgraded since i was last here - perhaps too much? :P | |
| 06:06 | cait | not sure, we like them |
| 06:07 | they can do a lot of useful things : | |
| 06:07 | braedon | until they try and turn us into batteries :) |
| 06:07 | cait | :) |
| 06:07 | * braedon | awaits the electric shock through his keyboard |
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| 06:12 | cait | hi Irma :) |
| 06:17 | AmitG | heya cait |
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| 06:29 | cait | hi AmitG |
| 06:29 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 06:29 | Project Koha_master build #196: FIXED in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/196/ | |
| 06:29 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : We need to catch the comments for the xslt to work | |
| 06:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
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| 06:36 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 06:39 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 06:40 | cait | bonjour francharb and alex_a :) |
| 06:43 | alex_a | Guten Tag cait |
| 06:43 | cait | :) |
| 06:43 | alex_a | :) |
| 06:43 | pastebot0 | "cait" at 78.51.68.36 pasted "#. %1$s: Template::Toolkit Dir" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14 |
| 06:44 | cait | @later tell chris the $s are always Template::Toolkit Directive now: http://paste.koha-community.org/14 - should show the variable names instead, so you can guess what goes in there |
| 06:44 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:45 | cait | time to change my identity - ttyl :) |
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| 06:47 | glernil | good day! |
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| 06:50 | glernil | how can i configure koha to send check out and check in messages? |
| 06:51 | i can send email already using the command line. i used ssmtp as my mta | |
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| 06:52 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:58 | julian | hi #koha ! |
| 07:06 | rangi | cait: i can probably do that but i thought that was better than ERROR for now |
| 07:06 | i was more concentrating on fixing the splitting lines | |
| 07:07 | which i think is now working | |
| 07:10 | glernil: thats all in the manual | |
| 07:11 | lemme find you the link | |
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| 07:15 | rangi | glernil: you have to turn on the EnhancedMessaging preferences |
| 07:22 | @later tell kf if i remove the comments, xslt is no longer translatable | |
| 07:22 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:23 | rangi | @later tell kf no idea about the buttons, are they js again? |
| 07:23 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:23 | rangi | @later tell kf basically we have run out of time for 3.4.0 its as good as it going to get for the release, more fixes will have to wait for 3.4.1 |
| 07:23 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:24 | mib_renae | hi having abit more trouble |
| 07:24 | cant get the password it is denying me access in the conf.xml file | |
| 07:25 | glernil | rangi: i turned it on already.. yet the status of the message in the msg queue is failed |
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| 07:27 | mib_renae | can u tell me the password |
| 07:27 | wahanui | the password is random. |
| 07:28 | mib_renae | ok thank u |
| 07:31 | sorry it is not working | |
| 07:31 | magnuse | mib_renae: wahanui is a bot, he has no idea what he's talking about... |
| 07:31 | wahanui: forget the password | |
| 07:31 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot password |
| 07:31 | mib_renae | how do i get the password |
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| 07:32 | magnuse | mib_renae: what password? |
| 07:32 | bonjour hdl | |
| 07:32 | hdl | hi magnuse |
| 07:33 | rangi | @later tell gmcharlt do you think 5579 is ready to merge |
| 07:33 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:33 | mib_renae | the password to access koha on my desktop the koha-conf.xml file denies me access |
| 07:34 | rangi | the password will be in the koha-conf.xml file |
| 07:34 | mib_renae | yes i know but it wont let me access it |
| 07:34 | rangi | what did you call your site when you did the koha-create? |
| 07:34 | mib_renae | it denies me |
| 07:34 | rangi | use sudo |
| 07:35 | mib_renae | koha is what is said on the command line |
| 07:35 | i just cut and pasted it | |
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| 07:36 | rangi | sudo cat /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 07:36 | that will print out the file for you | |
| 07:36 | mib_renae | i dont have a printer connected will it show on the screen |
| 07:37 | rangi | yes |
| 07:37 | mib_renae | ok thank u i will try that |
| 07:42 | ok which one is it | |
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| 07:43 | kf | jo |
| 07:43 | hi #koha | |
| 07:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 197 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 07:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Release notes for 3.4.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e420a963245afe62> |
| 07:52 | magnuse | hm, looks like the fix for bug 6160 was only partial, nengard reported a similar problem on bug 5671 |
| 07:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6160 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, my details not showing tabs |
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| 07:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" |
| 07:59 | pastebot0 | "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "for kf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 |
| 08:00 | rangi | kf: fixed one thing |
| 08:00 | that looks better eh? | |
| 08:01 | kf | yes |
| 08:02 | better :) | |
| 08:02 | in this case 2 strings would be fine - it's really hard :( | |
| 08:02 | quite sure there is no perfect solution | |
| 08:03 | I think in the old system we didn't get the if/else things as placeholders, but only variables | |
| 08:03 | not sure we can make it work like that again and this will be good in all circumstances | |
| 08:04 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:04 | i dont think we can get it to drop out the if, and foreach etc | |
| 08:05 | tmpl was a bit easier in that respect | |
| 08:05 | cos they were all TMPL_VAR or TMPL_IF etc | |
| 08:05 | but [% anything can go here %] | |
| 08:05 | i think safest is to placeholder any tag that is part of a string | |
| 08:06 | ill try to remove the ones that have nothing but placeholders :) | |
| 08:07 | kf | rangi: yes, that would be cool |
| 08:10 | rangi | ohh fixed the comments |
| 08:15 | ok, i think that is much better | |
| 08:16 | i just want to try to remove any lines that contain just placeholders | |
| 08:20 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5917 : Removing comments <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4ab7914a327ed5a2> |
| 08:23 | fredericd | yo |
| 08:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #197: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/197/ |
| 08:23 | Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.4.0 | |
| 08:23 | Starting build 198 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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| 08:36 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5671] Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671> |
| 08:39 | magnuse | rangi: is there still time for another signoff on Bug 5579? i can start testing it now |
| 08:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 08:39 | rangi | yep |
| 08:39 | still time :) | |
| 08:40 | magnuse | ok, i'll give it a try then |
| 08:42 | rangi | thanks |
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| 08:51 | paul_p | rangi, 1st results of my testing in your mailbox |
| 08:52 | AmitG | heya paul_p |
| 08:52 | paul_p | Hello AmitG |
| 08:52 | :q | |
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| 08:57 | rangi | thanks |
| 08:57 | i wonder if it does the same for en? | |
| 08:57 | ill check it out | |
| 09:03 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #198: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/198/ |
| 09:03 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Removing comments <!-- etc from the po file | |
| 09:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
| 09:05 | pastebot0 | "magnuse" at 95.34.212.148 pasted "Unified patch for Bug 5579 does not apply" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 |
| 09:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 09:06 | magnuse | what's "fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless"? |
| 09:07 | rangi | usually means the patch is busted |
| 09:07 | yeah | |
| 09:07 | dangit | |
| 09:07 | paul_p: thanks for that, ive spotted the problem fixing now | |
| 09:08 | it does only show up installing in another language so very handy that you tested taht | |
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| 09:19 | magnuse | so what to do about the busted patch? |
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| 09:26 | rangi | well they werent changed at all |
| 09:27 | so you could grab the branch from galen, plus the the 2 extra patches | |
| 09:27 | and resign off | |
| 09:33 | magnuse | and galen's branch would be this one? http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]efs/heads/bug5579 |
| 09:35 | rangi | it should be on the bug |
| 09:35 | lemme check | |
| 09:36 | ah yep that looks like it | |
| 09:36 | magnuse | ok, thanks |
| 09:36 | hdl1 | rangi: when there are many many items, I was told that the display was too slow. |
| 09:37 | (I was told today | |
| 09:37 | ) | |
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| 09:39 | rangi | with 5579? |
| 09:39 | slower than it is now? | |
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| 09:43 | * kf | kf_lunch |
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| 09:55 | Cybermon | hi all |
| 09:57 | i have this log: 17:58:38-19/04 zebrasrv(1) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) | |
| 09:58 | for koha-zebradaemon-output.log | |
| 09:58 | what is mean this log ? | |
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| 10:04 | magnuse | Cybermon: perhaps kf_lunch can answer when she is no longer lunching... |
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| 10:06 | Cybermon | okay |
| 10:09 | rangi | paul_p: fixed in master, building new tarball for testing |
| 10:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6205 : Fix for the installer, falling back to english <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a7917591867a783f6> / Bug 6205 : Further fix for installer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f1d1d7e1d19edbc33> / Bug 6205 : Fix for not found doc-head file when installing in another language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw |
| 10:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 199 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:15 | rangi | new test build built |
| 10:15 | pastebot0 | "magnuse" at 95.34.212.148 pasted "Extra patches do not apply on Galen's branch (bug 5579)" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
| 10:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
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| 10:16 | rangi | hmm looks like unless gmcharlt has time to look at it, its going to miss 3.4.0 |
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| 10:17 | magnuse | too bad... :-( |
| 10:17 | o/ | |
| 10:18 | rangi | ahh looks to me like those 2 patches were against the old branch |
| 10:19 | not galens revised one | |
| 10:19 | Cybermon | hello kt_lunch |
| 10:19 | rangi | and that the sign off was done on the old ones, again not on the revised one |
| 10:19 | * magnuse | is confused |
| 10:20 | magnuse | ...and hungry |
| 10:23 | rangi | or its missing one |
| 10:24 | hdl | rangi: on 1300 items, |
| 10:24 | rangi | yes im asking what is slow |
| 10:24 | hdl | detail display speed is not increased. |
| 10:24 | rangi | right |
| 10:25 | i wouldnt expect it to be | |
| 10:25 | Cybermon | rangi: how are you |
| 10:25 | hdl | I had done some work for detail display to limit items to 30. |
| 10:25 | rangi | yep thats still a useful feature, of course its not going to make 3.4.0 |
| 10:26 | hdl | But for some reason gmcharlt has not taken it. |
| 10:26 | rangi | but i dont think that should stop us putting in 5579 if magnuse can get it to work |
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| 10:27 | Cybermon | hi kf |
| 10:28 | kf | hdl: I believe there is a syspref |
| 10:28 | for how many items are displayed | |
| 10:28 | I translated something... in the pref file | |
| 10:29 | rangi | what i really need now, is someone to be able to apply the patches cleanly |
| 10:29 | the rest is just distraction | |
| 10:30 | Cybermon | kf: i have this log: zebrasrv(1) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) for koha-zebraqueue-output.log, what does mean ? |
| 10:31 | kf | yes... |
| 10:31 | 3.2.x? | |
| 10:31 | Cybermon | 3.2.7 |
| 10:31 | kf | yes... |
| 10:31 | Cybermon | for ubuntu 10.10 |
| 10:31 | kf | it's a mistake |
| 10:31 | you can ignore the warns | |
| 10:31 | Cybermon | good |
| 10:31 | kf | this feature should not be in 3.2.7 |
| 10:31 | I think the index sneaked in incompletely with some other change | |
| 10:32 | it's working only in 3.4 | |
| 10:32 | rangi | magnuse: the unified patch applies for me |
| 10:32 | Cybermon | good job. |
| 10:33 | magnuse | rangi: it does? cool! |
| 10:33 | rangi: on master or galens branch? | |
| 10:34 | rangi | master |
| 10:34 | * magnuse | is still a little confused... |
| 10:34 | rangi | im pushing it |
| 10:34 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:34 | rangi | to new/enh/bug_5579 |
| 10:34 | so you can test and say if it works | |
| 10:34 | and if it does ill merge it | |
| 10:34 | magnuse | ok, will do |
| 10:34 | rangi | pushed up now |
| 10:36 | magnuse | ...and pulled down |
| 10:36 | rangi | :) |
| 10:40 | kf: i think the translation script is much better now | |
| 10:40 | kf | cool! |
| 10:40 | go to bed! ;) | |
| 10:40 | * rangi | has a meeting tomorrow morning |
| 10:40 | rangi | but if people want to do a test install (paul already has thanks paul) |
| 10:41 | kf | rangi: before you go - have you seen my comment on the bug for stocknumber? |
| 10:41 | rangi | any testing is appreciated (paul found one bug and ive fixed it) |
| 10:41 | nope whats the bug number? | |
| 10:41 | kf | bub 5860 |
| 10:41 | bug | |
| 10:42 | chris_n found the problem - it's in 3.2.x and master now :( | |
| 10:42 | my databases where I tested it were not old enough to run into the problem | |
| 10:43 | rangi | ah its just a warn |
| 10:43 | but yeah cleaning it up would be good | |
| 10:43 | kf | hm not really |
| 10:43 | if your database is old enough - the unique index thing remains | |
| 10:43 | so you still have the problem that your item will not save the stocknumber :( | |
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| 10:44 | kf | I could do another one doing it for the other index name - but people would always get a red error message because one of those is failing |
| 10:45 | rangi | you can test if that index exists |
| 10:45 | remove it if it does | |
| 10:45 | and create the right one | |
| 10:45 | kf | chris_n told me that too... but when he started posting perl links I got lost |
| 10:46 | we only have examples for columns in updatedatabase, not for indexes | |
| 10:49 | rangi | ALTER IGNORE TABLE |
| 10:49 | easy peasy | |
| 10:49 | kf | ! |
| 10:49 | AmitG | heya kf ;) |
| 10:49 | kf | hi AmitG :) |
| 10:49 | what will that do? | |
| 10:51 | hm, I will try it | |
| 10:51 | thx rangi | |
| 10:51 | rangi | that will ignore it if doesnt exist |
| 10:53 | at least thats what i think, ill test | |
| 10:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #199: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/199/ |
| 10:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Fix for not found doc-head file when installing in another language | |
| 10:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Further fix for installer | |
| 10:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6205 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, doc-head-open.inc not found. |
| 10:54 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6205 : Fix for the installer, falling back to english |
| 10:56 | rangi | otherwise we have to do it the longer way |
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| 10:57 | rangi | SHOW INDEX FROM items WHERE KEY_NAME = 'itemsstocknumberidx' |
| 10:57 | conan | hi all |
| 10:58 | kf | hm! |
| 10:58 | ok | |
| 11:00 | rangi | so this is what is there now |
| 11:00 | https://gist.github.com/927131 | |
| 11:00 | so to be clear | |
| 11:00 | the problem is, some people have itemstocknumberidx ? | |
| 11:01 | im trying to understand what the problem is | |
| 11:02 | kf | some people have it with one and others with 2 s |
| 11:02 | itemsstocknumberidx and itemstocknumberidx | |
| 11:02 | rangi | who are the ones that have it with one s? |
| 11:02 | new installs? | |
| 11:02 | kf | sec |
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| 11:03 | rangi | because all old installs will have 2 s |
| 11:03 | kf | new installs have 1 |
| 11:03 | rangi | yeah |
| 11:03 | kf | updated 2 |
| 11:03 | rangi | so new installs arent getting changed with your updatedatabase |
| 11:04 | kf | let me check my updatedatabase before answering that |
| 11:04 | I had tested with a new install... so old installs should not get it | |
| 11:04 | rangi | i just pasted it |
| 11:04 | it does it for 2 s | |
| 11:04 | so only changes old ones | |
| 11:04 | kf | $dbh->do("ALTER TABLE `items` DROP INDEX `itemsstocknumberidx`;") |
| 11:04 | rangi | yes |
| 11:04 | old ones | |
| 11:05 | brand new ones of course dont run that | |
| 11:05 | if if the problem was | |
| 11:05 | kf | uh, now i am confused |
| 11:06 | rangi | well you dont run the updatedatabase if its new |
| 11:06 | kf | no |
| 11:06 | rangi | it just uses kohastructure.sql |
| 11:06 | kf | ok |
| 11:06 | I think we have to say it differently: a database that got items.stocknumber by update | |
| 11:06 | rangi | will be fine |
| 11:06 | because that update makes the one with 2 s | |
| 11:07 | kf | right |
| 11:07 | ok | |
| 11:07 | a newer database, new installed 3.2 | |
| 11:07 | or 3.2.x will get an error message | |
| 11:08 | rangi | yep |
| 11:08 | so what you want to do is | |
| 11:08 | kf | and nothing will be changed so the problem remain |
| 11:08 | s | |
| 11:08 | rangi | ill rewrite it in the gist page 2 secs |
| 11:09 | kf | thx chris and sorry for keeping you awake |
| 11:11 | rangi | https://gist.github.com/927131 |
| 11:12 | kf | cool! |
| 11:12 | ok, copying and will try to send a patch a bit later today | |
| 11:12 | rangi | cool |
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| 11:12 | kf | what happens to the old updatedatabase? it will cause warns |
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| 11:12 | rangi | id change it |
| 11:13 | rather than making a new one | |
| 11:13 | kf | hm |
| 11:13 | rangi | otherwise its just going to through errors |
| 11:13 | kf | but say someone is running from master - it will not update for them and correct the mistake |
| 11:13 | rangi | serves them right for running unreleased code |
| 11:13 | it would only be someone who updated in the last week | |
| 11:14 | after i told people not to for production | |
| 11:14 | i think leaving it there and annoying everyone | |
| 11:14 | is worse than fixing it, and annoying only a few people | |
| 11:15 | unless you want to edit, and add a new one | |
| 11:15 | then it will do it twice for almost everyone | |
| 11:15 | kf | I will follow your advice |
| 11:15 | rangi | but fix anyone who upgrade in the last week |
| 11:16 | kf | I think the only other way to do it is like you say - doing it twice for those where it already worked |
| 11:16 | like having 2 blocks of that code | |
| 11:16 | rangi | yep |
| 11:17 | kf | change the old one so that it produces no errors and add a new one at the end for everyone in between |
| 11:17 | wahanui | kf: that doesn't look right |
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| 11:17 | rangi | yep |
| 11:17 | kf | wahanui: forget that |
| 11:17 | wahanui | kf: I forgot that |
| 11:17 | kf | ok. and you recomment only changing the old one? |
| 11:17 | rangi | id be fine with that |
| 11:17 | the thing with creating an index on items | |
| 11:18 | it can take a long long time | |
| 11:18 | if you have lots of items | |
| 11:18 | and it was only pushed to master on the 4th | |
| 11:19 | so there should be very few people running it, if there are, if they are brave enough to run an unstable branch in production they should be paying attention :-) | |
| 11:19 | kf | hm ok |
| 11:19 | that's about master | |
| 11:19 | but chris_n put it in 3.2.x | |
| 11:19 | rangi | it shouldnt even be in 3.2.x |
| 11:19 | kf | I think before he released it |
| 11:19 | rangi | because its a new feature |
| 11:19 | kf | hm no |
| 11:19 | the field was there already | |
| 11:20 | so the bug - failing silently if you try to save a duplicate existed there too | |
| 11:20 | rangi | ah right |
| 11:20 | well chris can decide what he wants for 3.2. | |
| 11:20 | x | |
| 11:20 | kf | for unimarc too |
| 11:20 | ok | |
| 11:20 | thx rangi | |
| 11:20 | rangi++ | |
| 11:21 | rangi | ok have a demo first thing tomorrow time to sleep |
| 11:21 | please if people have time, test the install | |
| 11:21 | paul_p | good night rangi |
| 11:21 | conan | which install? |
| 11:21 | master? | |
| 11:21 | wahanui | master is now running from template::toolkit |
| 11:22 | rangi | trying to keep it out of the logs, ill be doing a few test tarballs over the next couple of days, this a new one with a bug that paul found fixed |
| 11:22 | and now im going to sleep | |
| 11:23 | paul_p | rangi, will test this afternoon agains & will report |
| 11:23 | rangi | thanks paul_p |
| 11:24 | kf | uh |
| 11:24 | good night rangi | |
| 11:24 | can someone test searching a system parameter? | |
| 11:25 | I get all results doubled up | |
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| 11:33 | magnuse | kf: seems ok for me |
| 11:33 | kf | hmpf |
| 11:33 | seems it's my installation then :( | |
| 11:36 | hm strange - works now | |
| 11:36 | deleted all old template directories | |
| 11:37 | AmitG | heya jwagner |
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| 11:38 | jwagner | Hi AmitG |
| 11:38 | magnuse | huh? i'm testing bug 5579 and when i try to delete an item i get Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at ...C4/Biblio.pm line 2081 - and when i try it on current master i get the same error, on line 2097. anyone else seeing that? |
| 11:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 11:41 | magnuse | both lines look like this: MARCFIELD: foreach my $field ( $record->fields() ) { |
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| 12:02 | ebegin | I do have a nice challenge for all ;) |
| 12:02 | JesseM | Good Morning #Koha |
| 12:02 | ebegin | Parsing a marc record, I have one case where I have the cost ($22.50) in the 020$c subfield |
| 12:03 | conan | JesseM: hi |
| 12:03 | JesseM | Hi conan |
| 12:03 | ebegin | Which makes it a little complicated to parse... 020 $a978-2-915018-53-0 :$c$22.50 |
| 12:04 | conan | ebegin: what are you looking for? a regexp? |
| 12:05 | ebegin | that would be great :) however, any hint about how to differenciate a cost from a $2 subfiled would be appreciated :) |
| 12:07 | conan | ebegin: if the only thing you're insterested on that line is to extract the price, then I think this one should do it: |
| 12:08 | ebegin: /.*\$c(\$\d+(\.\d+)?)/ | |
| 12:08 | and your price will end up in $1 | |
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| 12:09 | conan | ebegin: test it like: echo '020 $a978-2-915018-53-0 :$c$22.50' | perl -wn -e '/.*\$c(\$\d+(\.\d+)?)/; print $1' |
| 12:10 | ebegin | conan, thanks, however, I would like to extract each subfield (ex $a $c) and their corresponding value. |
| 12:10 | conan | ah! |
| 12:10 | that's another question then ;) | |
| 12:10 | NateC | Morning #koha! |
| 12:10 | kf | morning NateC |
| 12:10 | conan | NateC: hi :) |
| 12:10 | NateC | Hiya kf and conan! |
| 12:10 | conan | ebegin: you can follow the same principle I used to extract your price |
| 12:11 | ebegin: just wrap around parenthesis the fields you want, escape $ and put ? on optional stuff | |
| 12:11 | ebegin | conan, the problem I see is how to differenciate a $2 subfield from a $2 (at begining of a price) |
| 12:11 | conan | ebegin: that line you put is a complete row? |
| 12:12 | hum... | |
| 12:12 | ebegin | conan I'll give you a possible example, hold on |
| 12:12 | conan | you said the price is in the $c field, right? so if there is a $c field, then next it will be a price, or not? |
| 12:12 | Cybermon | how can i check the crontab is working ? |
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| 12:17 | kf | bug 6208 |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets |
| 12:18 | ebegin | conan, the $c was an example, we can have a $ in any data. |
| 12:19 | conan | ebegin: then you must rephrase your question: |
| 12:20 | │09:04:32 ebegin | Parsing a marc record, I have one case where I have the cost ($22.50) in the 020$c subfield | |
| 12:20 | but now you're telling me that you can have prices on any subfield | |
| 12:20 | if I'm following correctly | |
| 12:21 | please, give the complicated example, so I can understand better and help you | |
| 12:21 | the one that can cause confusion | |
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| 12:34 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 12:35 | conan | jcamins: hi there |
| 12:35 | wahanui | what's up, conan |
| 12:35 | conan | what's wrong with the bot? |
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| 12:35 | conan | tcohen: just the person I was waiting for |
| 12:35 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 12:36 | conan | tcohen: I just finish an install with branch checked out to 5166 |
| 12:36 | tcohen: good morning | |
| 12:36 | tcohen: what now? what should I test? | |
| 12:36 | tcohen | oh, that sounds great, will you test on that? |
| 12:36 | conan | yes, but don't know where to start |
| 12:37 | so far it installed ok, there's only a merge conflict with updatedatabase.pl | |
| 12:44 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 12:54 | jcamins | kf: did you salvage your refrigerator? |
| 12:54 | Or at least the contents? | |
| 12:54 | kf | jcamins: it still freezes things - but my landlord was there and will probably order a new one today |
| 12:55 | we tried unfreezing it tonight, but it has not worked | |
| 12:57 | and of course... this happens shortly before the easter holidays | |
| 12:58 | someone int he mood for fixing my newest pet bug? | |
| 12:58 | bug 6208 | |
| 12:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets |
| 12:59 | oleonard | kf, that sounds like it's the same as a bug nengard was talking about yesterday |
| 12:59 | Bug 6200 | |
| 13:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6200 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, can't edit funds |
| 13:00 | chris_n | kf: please submit whatever patch you make for your updatedatabase issue for 3.2.x as well |
| 13:00 | * chris_n | browses the buffer |
| 13:00 | kf | yes, only a variation - I searched for add fund - just found it |
| 13:01 | nengard filed for edit funds | |
| 13:01 | chris_n: will do | |
| 13:01 | at least I don't have to deal with the templates :) | |
| 13:01 | chris_n | :-) |
| 13:02 | yup, that's going to be a show-stopper for 3.2.x in very short order, me thinks | |
| 13:02 | many bugs are being fixed with only tt patches | |
| 13:03 | oleonard | The template-toolkit migration really puts the nail in the coffin of all those old Harley features too, for better or worse |
| 13:03 | chris_n | true |
| 13:04 | brainstorm: we need a script that compares the patches list archive with the git log of the current master to check for lost kittens | |
| 13:05 | kf | hm hard to do |
| 13:05 | for me :) | |
| 13:05 | I wonder about the signed-off patches and the discussions happening on the list | |
| 13:16 | oleonard | kf: ? |
| 13:16 | kf | chris_n's question |
| 13:16 | gmcharlt | kf: wouldn't be too hard to deal with; it's possible to distinguish patches and the discussion of them pretty accurate |
| 13:17 | kf | gmcharlt: I think you are right |
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| 13:21 | oleonard | What's this all about? aqbudgets.pl: Use of uninitialized value $number in numeric comparison (<=>) at /usr/share/perl5/Number/Format.pm line 790 |
| 13:28 | chris_n | $number is undef |
| 13:28 | generally harmless, but could indicate problems elsewhere if $number should have been set by then | |
| 13:29 | on the lighter side, it could mean that you're trying to exceed your aq budget.... :-) | |
| 13:30 | gmcharlt | blowing up to save your budget? ;) |
| 13:31 | hdl_lunch | chris_n++ |
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| 13:31 | hdl | (wow... lunch has been over for me for a while...) |
| 13:32 | chris_n | long_lunches++ // assuming the food is good |
| 13:36 | hdl | chris_n: I thought that we could create patch branches on server quite automatically with a mutt process and send message when not appliable but never got to that point. That way, we could parse all the not merged branches and rebase quite regularly those branches and send emails for conflicts... But once again, need some work. |
| 13:36 | wizzyrea | i love mutt. |
| 13:36 | < a bit of a shell script junkie | |
| 13:47 | chris_n | hdl: it might also be desirable to automatically prune topic branches once merged |
| 13:47 | * chris_n | wonders how mutt and patches would get along together |
| 13:48 | rhcl | "Mutt and Patches" sounds like the title of a children's book |
| 13:48 | hdl | well chris_n: I think so too... But this might not be really the nicest thing to cope with lost kittens. |
| 13:49 | rhcl | I am so confused |
| 13:49 | I need breakfast | |
| 13:49 | chris_n | are you thinking a branch per bug then? |
| 13:49 | rhcl | brb... |
| 13:50 | * chris_n | passes rhcl coffee and donuts |
| 13:50 | rhcl | rhcl_brb |
| 13:50 | chris_n | hdl: maybe branches could be pruned as bugs are marked closed |
| 13:51 | some bugzilla/git hook | |
| 13:54 | * chris_n | wanders off to consult with the oracle at #git |
| 13:54 | gmcharlt | chris_n: I don't think topic branches should be pruned automatically |
| 13:55 | after a bug has been marked closed, some may still need to revisit it | |
| 13:55 | chris_n | perhaps a 'git mv' then to push it off to an archival location |
| 13:55 | gmcharlt | if pruning is needed - and I'm not convinced it actually is - it could be done periodically after a few months have elapsed |
| 13:56 | git mv? that's for files | |
| 13:59 | hdl | maybe we could have pushed/branchname like we have qa/branchname |
| 13:59 | But that is another story. | |
| 14:00 | gmcharlt: if the branch is reprocessed some times after it was merged, then it may be based on master rather than on the initial branch... Since edits can conflict on other pushed patches. | |
| 14:01 | gmcharlt | hdl: well, presumably somebody working on it would be aware enough to merge in master first |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | hm, no kiwis about? I know it's godawful early. |
| 14:03 | * wizzyrea | saves that question for later. |
| 14:06 | chris_n | gmcharlt: sorry 'git branch -m' |
| 14:08 | branches should be named in such away to generally indicate their status imho | |
| 14:08 | gmcharlt | that's what the bug tracker is for |
| 14:10 | rhcl | wizzyrea: our Tech Services people are going to Mid-Continent on Thursday; may talk about Koha and RDA (as separate topics) |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | neat |
| 14:11 | rhcl are you going to kudoscon? | |
| 14:11 | rhcl | yea yea, just need to do my paperwork. Thats on the menu for today. |
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | doo eet |
| 14:11 | doo eet nao | |
| 14:12 | rhcl | I've been putting that and the grant request for ALA off |
| 14:15 | sekjal | should we be indexing patrons like we do biblios and authorities? |
| 14:16 | jcamins | sekjal: with Zebra? |
| 14:16 | sekjal | jcamins: yeah |
| 14:16 | create XML records of patron info, then index | |
| 14:17 | jcamins | I don't know, but why aren't 035 fields indexed? |
| 14:17 | sekjal | probably completely impractical to consider at this time, with limited return on investment |
| 14:21 | gmcharlt | sekjal: are you mostly looking for a general keyword search of all patron fields? |
| 14:22 | if so, a quicker way to do it might be to create a borrower_keywords table that gets populated whenever a patron record gets created or updated | |
| 14:22 | sekjal | gmcharlt: hmmm, that could work |
| 14:23 | mostly, I want an exact match on cardnumber to return the record directly, in any patron search in Koha | |
| 14:23 | if not an exact match on cardnumber, then check for exact matches on any unique identifier Extended Attributes | |
| 14:23 | return patron page if exact match is found, otherwise, search against as subset of borrowers table fields | |
| 14:24 | and make that subset syspref-controlled | |
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| 14:25 | sekjal | I suppose I'd like to see the borrowers table stripped down, and most of the data put into Extended Attributes (or something similar with more semantic connections) |
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| 14:30 | hdl | sekjal: this problem was supposed to be (maybe confusedly and awkwardly) assigned with SQLHelper, hoping that DBIx::Class shift could help improving the whole stuff. |
| 14:31 | But with DEBUG=1 you have the SQL generated and the params passed. | |
| 14:33 | sekjal | right now, we've got two search subroutines for borrowers: Search() and SearchMember() |
| 14:33 | Search() seems to be the more complex, using SQLHelper and searching on Extended attributes | |
| 14:33 | but SearchMember() is more widely used | |
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| 14:34 | chris_n | yay! pdf labels complete with hindi type |
| 14:34 | jcamins | Does anyone understand matching rules? |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ |
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| 14:35 | sekjal | jcamins: almost |
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| 14:35 | sekjal | enough to know it's a brilliant idea that needs some interface enhancements to make it more user friendly |
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| 14:36 | jcamins | sekjal: okay, does it use Zebra? |
| 14:36 | sekjal | jcamins: to allow matching on non-mapped MARC fields? |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Right. |
| 14:37 | I think it does. | |
| 14:37 | sekjal | jcamins: I think that's the plan, though I can't say for sure it actually does; never read the code |
| 14:37 | jcamins | It uses SimpleSearch. |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | hdl, did you tell me that biblibre had code for the patron detail multiple return? |
| 14:43 | that helped with transits/reserves | |
| 14:43 | hdl | yes. |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | which test environs of yours is that in? |
| 14:44 | hdl | test environs ? |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | didn't you have test installs set up for your varying projects after kohacon? |
| 14:45 | hdl | jcamins: and enough to know it is a pain to debug when you are using web interface. |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea: borrowers34 iirc. | |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | aha ty |
| 14:46 | * oleonard | hands wizzyrea her cherry-picking boots |
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| 14:46 | wizzyrea | you hand me those, and I'll be asking you for help so get ready. :P |
| 14:46 | mib_deo1wa | hi koha friends :) |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 14:47 | hdl | jcamins: and yes it uses zebra |
| 14:51 | mib_deo1wa | My name is Vitor Fernandes... I've used sometimes this IRC channel... Yesterday i've been here to ask if is possible to block one patron to reserve books that are checked out to him, and after come coding I got a solution (which is not the perfect but it's the possible one) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | version control using git? |
| 14:51 | wahanui | well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | mib_deo1wa: in case you wanted to try and submit your work to the project :) |
| 14:53 | mib_deo1wa | but I've no time to configure that... I'm too busy |
| 14:54 | can I send to someone to commit it? | |
| 14:55 | kf | mib: if you have a koha with customizations you really want to take the time to configuret hat |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | kf++ #good advice |
| 14:55 | it will save you hours and hours in the long run | |
| 14:55 | kf | yes |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | plus you'll be set up to commit your own changes |
| 14:56 | and get your name in the koha history if it's accepted. :) | |
| 14:57 | mib_deo1wa | maybe later :) first i've to close the project for the librarian i'm working... |
| 14:58 | you can peek the opac here http://iscte.koha.keep.pt... it's not a pré-production server | |
| 14:58 | http://iscte.koha.keep.pt | |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | very pretty :) |
| 14:59 | mib_deo1wa | can you guys help me with one thing? |
| 15:00 | when saving a record in the cataloging menu if i put a random value in the subfield 100$a i'm getting this error | |
| 15:01 | Unsupported UNIMARC character encoding [] for XML output for UNIMARC; 100$a -> 2013 at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/XML.pm line 505. | |
| 15:01 | i'm using UNIMARC installation, koha 3.2.6 | |
| 15:01 | paul_p | hi mib_deo1wa |
| 15:01 | I can help you. You're in UNIMARC right ? | |
| 15:01 | mib_deo1wa | yes... |
| 15:01 | paul_p | the encoding is in the MARC 100$a field |
| 15:02 | it's supposed to be 01, 03 or 50, or a combination of those values | |
| 15:02 | like 0103 or 5050 | |
| 15:02 | 2013 is wrong, Koha complains : he don't know what to do | |
| 15:02 | it means your record is wrong | |
| 15:03 | on the right of the 100$a, you should have ... | |
| 15:03 | click on it, it opens a popup that will help you fill the field | |
| 15:04 | mib_deo1wa | ok it has to be filled by that popup? |
| 15:04 | paul_p | "it has" no. If you know how to fill it, you can. But it's *much* easier with the plugin ! |
| 15:04 | chris_n | ouch... bug in Delhi Public library's koha install |
| 15:04 | http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/k[…]&bib=3720&save=Go | |
| 15:04 | mib_deo1wa | ok thanks paul for the help |
| 15:05 | paul_p | if you retrieve record from a z3950 source (like bnf), it will be filled for you |
| 15:05 | mib_deo1wa, your welcome | |
| 15:05 | mib_deo1wa | :) |
| 15:06 | now back to work.... many things to close | |
| 15:06 | thank you people for all the help | |
| 15:07 | oleonard | chris_n: Bug 6040? |
| 15:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6040 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, opac-export.pl can throw an untrapped error when trying to export an invalid record |
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| 15:08 | chris_n | oleonard: the record exports ok as unicode/utf8, just not as non-Unicode/MARC-8 |
| 15:08 | not sure if that qualifies under that bug or not | |
| 15:08 | oleonard | chris_n: I randomly changed the bib number to something else and didn't get the error so I thought it might be something to do with that record. |
| 15:10 | chris_n | k, tnx |
| 15:11 | oleonard | nengard: Re: Bug 5685, did you try the first attached patch? The obsoleted one? The follow-up patch looks like it needs the first to work. |
| 15:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5685 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Validation of email address field |
| 15:12 | nengard | oleonard, I tried the non-obsolete patch |
| 15:12 | the only one that was visible by default | |
| 15:13 | so you're saying the 'obsolete' one isn't obsolete? | |
| 15:13 | oleonard | Try each of them in succession. Looks like obsoleting the first one was a mistake. |
| 15:16 | nengard | oleonard - they apply - but they don't stop me from entering something other than an email address |
| 15:17 | oleonard | Thanks for trying it. I haven't tried it myself but it caught my eye so I was checking out the bug repot |
| 15:18 | nengard | oleonard did you get my email about the recent comments/ |
| 15:18 | ? | |
| 15:19 | oleonard | Let me check |
| 15:20 | Yeah... So here's the status | |
| 15:20 | The patch was pushed, the feature is there | |
| 15:20 | But it's not linked to from anywhere | |
| 15:20 | nengard | hmm |
| 15:20 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/opac-showreviews.pl |
| 15:21 | I wasn't sure if it should go in the list of links along with Advanced Search, Tag Cloud, etc. or what | |
| 15:21 | nengard | that makes sense |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Makes sense to put it there? |
| 15:21 | nengard | yes |
| 15:22 | but if that won't make it into 3.4 I can at least put that info in the manual - of where to find the page | |
| 15:22 | also, how many recent comments does it show? | |
| 15:24 | oleonard | It will handle multiple pages, let me check what the per-page number is |
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| 15:24 | oleonard | It should obey OPACnumSearchResults |
| 15:25 | tcohen | anyone has a quick link to blockers for 3.4.0? |
| 15:25 | nengard | will it obey the new preference to control showing patron names on comments? |
| 15:26 | oleonard | I don't know |
| 15:26 | nengard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]rsion=unspecified |
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| 15:26 | kf | tcohen: linking to bugzilla is a bit tricky |
| 15:26 | oh | |
| 15:26 | nengard | :) |
| 15:26 | kf | yes, I treid a saved search earlier and that didn#t work :) |
| 15:26 | sorry | |
| 15:26 | was confused | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | thanks nengard,kf |
| 15:27 | oleonard | nengard: It doesn't look like opac-showreviews.tt was changed to obey the new pref |
| 15:27 | I'll submit a patch | |
| 15:28 | nengard | k |
| 15:28 | kf | nengard: if you tried saving it? |
| 15:28 | nengard: i sat next to mark when he programmed the email validation | |
| 15:28 | nengard | saving what? |
| 15:28 | oh | |
| 15:28 | kf | the patron record with a wrong email address |
| 15:28 | nengard | yes, i tried to save teh patron and it let me do so |
| 15:28 | on FF4 on Mac | |
| 15:28 | kf | ah |
| 15:28 | nengard | and the email address was something like "odjflksjdfsk" |
| 15:28 | :) | |
| 15:29 | kf | it should show up a message similar to those in the sys pred editor |
| 15:29 | at least i saw it worked - thought it was really cool! | |
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| 15:31 | oleonard | kf: The patch nengard is testing just has an alert() |
| 15:31 | I wonder what you saw? | |
| 15:31 | kf | hm |
| 15:31 | he was using a mac | |
| 15:32 | perhaps it just looked different form my alersts | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | I think that was it |
| 15:32 | kf | yep |
| 15:32 | probably, looked a bit fancier and came from the top of the screen? | |
| 15:33 | oleonard | Yeah, that's a Mac-style alert |
| 15:34 | nengard | oleonard - manual updated with new info on recent comments page |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea I updated the patron permissions image to be more accurate :) | |
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| 15:44 | oleonard | nengard: The email address validation is working for me |
| 15:44 | nengard | k |
| 15:44 | so it's FF4? | |
| 15:44 | oleonard | I don't know. I'll test it in FF4 to make sure. |
| 15:44 | nengard | k |
| 15:45 | oleonard | It doesn't recognize one valid format I know of, "username+customfiltergmail.com" |
| 15:45 | ( http://www.divergentstudio.com[…]am-and-filtering/ ) | |
| 15:46 | jcamins | It should allow for mailbox specification. |
| 15:46 | + is completely valid. | |
| 15:47 | oleonard | See also: http://haacked.com/archive/200[…]ress-until-i.aspx |
| 15:48 | No way, FF4 has per-tab js alerts now? That's a nice reason to upgrade. | |
| 15:48 | kf | never seen someone use that - could it be added to the regex? |
| 15:48 | oleonard | nengard: Works for me in FF4, maybe it was a glitch in your testing branch |
| 15:48 | nengard | good |
| 15:48 | glad it works | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | We should probably work to standardize our js validation: http://bassistance.de/jquery-p[…]lugin-validation/ |
| 15:50 | kf | ok, time to leave |
| 15:50 | bye all | |
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| 15:55 | chris_n | final nws tornado count for the weekend storm: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/ne[…]10416.tornado.gif |
| 15:56 | oleonard | Wow |
| 15:58 | chris_n | epidemic |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Wow! |
| 15:59 | chris_n | I'm hiding there next to the second longest EF3 path 8-O |
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| 16:13 | oleonard | Bug 6209 |
| 16:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation |
| 16:13 | jcamins | oleonard++ |
| 16:14 | oleonard | Something to put on the pile right next to the jqueryUI project :| |
| 16:15 | jcamins | That will fix the check_form_borrowers problem. |
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| 16:19 | slef | Hi all. How did that dropbox invite spam get onto the koha list? |
| 16:20 | sekjal | bulk import of contacts list? |
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| 16:23 | slef | sekjal: yeah, but it appeared to be from a dropbox address not the user's own |
| 16:24 | jcamins | Could someone please test linking authorities on Master? When I tried linking an authority which had two subfield 'p's, the second one didn't show up at all. |
| 16:24 | Not even "O.T.|John" the way it used to. | |
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| 16:33 | oleonard | jcamins or sekjal: Who wants to hear about the latest holds mystery in our production system? |
| 16:34 | Nobody's blinking. I'll just ramble on: | |
| 16:35 | I've gotten lots of reports of holds going to the wrong place | |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Where are they going? |
| 16:35 | oleonard | I was just investigating the latest example, and something looks suspicious |
| 16:35 | Holds being transferred to the wrong branch, I mean. | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Yeah, I mean, are they all going to the same branch? |
| 16:37 | oleonard | No. |
| 16:37 | I'm looking at one record (biblionumber 233722), and it has three copies which are in transit | |
| 16:37 | One is going to ALB, one to GPL, one to NPL | |
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| 16:37 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Weird. |
| 16:38 | oleonard | The three patrons for which they are being transferred are also patrons of ALB, GPL, and NPL, but the copies allocated for each are not going to their branch |
| 16:38 | So the ALB patron's copy is going to GPL, for instance | |
| 16:39 | Could be coincidence, but not given the reports I've gotten of this problem | |
| 16:39 | jcamins | I think we've seen this issue elsewhere, too. |
| 16:39 | There was a bug... | |
| 16:39 | * jcamins | looks |
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| 16:40 | chris_n | should I expect to be able to download a marc record from another koha installation and then use bulkmarcimport to slurp it up into another installation assuming a compatible branchcode? |
| 16:43 | jcamins | chris_n: I would think. |
| 16:43 | * chris_n | can't seem to coerce his sandbox to accept this hindi marc record |
| 16:44 | cait | chris_n: I use stages marc import a lot |
| 16:44 | chris_n: but I send myself the records via the cart | |
| 16:44 | chris_n | cait: thanks, but the same error occurs there as well :P |
| 16:45 | cait | ah :( |
| 16:45 | jcamins | chris_n: try exporting as MARC-8? |
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| 16:47 | chris_n | these records refuse to export as MARC-8 |
| 16:47 | cait | oleonard: I like the idea of using jquery for validating forms! |
| 16:47 | chris_n | crazy problem |
| 16:47 | cait | will probably not work for all the things we have to check for, but would make things easier I guess |
| 16:47 | jcamins | oleonard: I think that was fixed with bug 6004. |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box |
| 16:48 | cait | chris_n: marc 8 probably has not the hindi characters? |
| 16:48 | jcamins | chris_n: export as MARCXML? |
| 16:48 | chris_n | probably so; I'm guessing there may be an encoding issue here somewhere I'm not seeing |
| 16:48 | cait | do you need it for labels testing? |
| 16:48 | chris_n | jcamins: tried, same error |
| 16:48 | I'll post the error here | |
| 16:48 | cait: yes | |
| 16:49 | cait | hm |
| 16:49 | we have hebrew, but it's all in the 880 fields | |
| 16:49 | probably not very helpful then | |
| 16:50 | chris_n | cait: hebrew titles/authors would help |
| 16:50 | .DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels//C4/Biblio.pm line 3120, <GEN12> line 1. | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | o.O |
| 16:50 | oleonard | jcamins: Really? That patch doesn't just deal with message display? |
| 16:50 | cait | chris_n: the data is all in 880 fields - I can show you one though |
| 16:50 | * chris_n | really did not want to get into slogging through Biblio.pm today |
| 16:51 | chris_n | cait: k |
| 16:51 | cait | https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=30613 |
| 16:51 | jcamins | oleonard: I think that patch just corrects the transfer logic so books get sent to the right place. |
| 16:52 | chris_n | cait: ahh.. titles are transliterated into latin chars |
| 16:52 | cait | yep - original scripts are in 880 |
| 16:53 | but some of the transliterations have some nice diacritics | |
| 16:53 | https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=30695 | |
| 16:53 | oleonard | jcamins: Strange that the symptom described in Bug 6004 has been happening with us for quite a while but this transfer location problem hasn't |
| 16:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box |
| 16:54 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, hm. |
| 16:54 | Very strange indeed. | |
| 16:57 | chris_n | cait: tnx, I'll grab one of those for my test cases too |
| 17:36 | jcamins | novels_about_knitting++ |
| 17:40 | cait | hm, I would have expected novels_about_cooking - but knitting? |
| 17:41 | * jcamins | was looking at the record for a novel about knitting, and found it very amusing. |
| 17:42 | jcamins | Bug 5805 |
| 17:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it |
| 17:59 | library_systems_guy | ok so I just stepped in and the other person that is working on koha with me is doing marc imports. So she tells me that she has staged the records fine but when she goes to import the progress never gets beyond 0 |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Yeah, the indicator is broken. |
| 17:59 | For really big files, at least. | |
| 17:59 | library_systems_guy | 5000 records? |
| 17:59 | thats what she said she was doing | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Yeah, that's large enough that the indicator won't work. |
| 18:00 | Just wait a bit, and the upload will complete without a problem. | |
| 18:00 | library_systems_guy | she said she waited several hours |
| 18:00 | is that typical? | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | No. |
| 18:01 | I find if it doesn't work within 10 minutes, it's best to just use the command-line tools. | |
| 18:01 | library_systems_guy | so now when she tries to import smaller files (say 2000 or so) she gets the same thing |
| 18:01 | ok | |
| 18:01 | jcamins | Actually, I find it's always best to use the command line tools. |
| 18:01 | library_systems_guy | thats what i recommend too |
| 18:01 | but she hates using the command line | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | She could split it up into, say, 500-record files and try those, but I think the command line is way less of a nuisance. |
| 18:03 | Are you using VirtualBox, by the way? | |
| 18:03 | library_systems_guy | no, Hyper-V |
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| 18:06 | library_systems_guy | jcamins, why did you want to know? |
| 18:08 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: we had serious problems with that when we used VirtualBox. |
| 18:10 | library_systems_guy | ahh ok |
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| 18:21 | rangi | chris_n: around? |
| 18:22 | you found bug 6040 eh? | |
| 18:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6040 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, opac-export.pl can throw an untrapped error when trying to export an invalid record |
| 18:23 | chris_n | yup |
| 18:23 | rangi | cool |
| 18:24 | chris_n | this occurs with every attempt to export in nonunicode regardless of any record I tried |
| 18:24 | so I guess most of their records must have issues | |
| 18:25 | in any case, my koha refuses to import them :P | |
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| 18:27 | rangi | marclint |
| 18:27 | will tell you whats wrong with them | |
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| 18:31 | * chris_n | has been doing things like this today: http://img38.imageshack.us/f/hindilabel.png/ |
| 18:31 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5579] Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579> |
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| 18:33 | rangi | magnus_away: working on 6207 now |
| 18:34 | cait | bug 6207 |
| 18:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6207 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't delete item |
| 18:34 | cait | hi rangi |
| 18:34 | working on opac translation :) | |
| 18:41 | library_systems_guy | ok so I have a brain teaser. When i run the dev install, I get an unblessed reference. However when i run the standard install it works fine... |
| 18:42 | looks like file permissions to me | |
| 18:42 | but everything seems to check out | |
| 18:43 | rangi | cait: i cant remember did i push some more fixes? |
| 18:43 | cait | hm you told me in the morning it should work much better now |
| 18:43 | and you fixed the comments | |
| 18:43 | rangi | yes, but did i actually push any fixes |
| 18:44 | ? | |
| 18:44 | * rangi | has lost track |
| 18:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 200 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:44 | cait | you did push one thing for the commets |
| 18:44 | rangi | ah cool |
| 18:44 | cait | and the file looks indeed better |
| 18:44 | rangi | yay |
| 18:44 | * cait | sends rangi chocolate |
| 18:44 | cait | I am translating opac now - and will do more testing once I have it complete |
| 18:45 | it's easier than to look up everything to check for fuzziness | |
| 18:45 | rangi | translating on the updated file eh? |
| 18:45 | cait | yep |
| 18:45 | rangi | cool |
| 18:45 | if it works, load it into pootle :) | |
| 18:45 | cait | poedit and my editor don't show the normarc stuff correctly |
| 18:45 | but not sure it's the editor | |
| 18:45 | hm, that would be brave | |
| 18:46 | I have 2 people helping with translation now on pootle :) | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | cait++ # for her bravery |
| 18:46 | cait | that's too early for karma |
| 18:46 | rangi | i guess worst is all their work becomes fuzzy |
| 18:46 | cait | I should give them a fair warn before doing something that drastic |
| 18:47 | I still can't accept suggestions on pootle :( | |
| 18:47 | rangi | weird |
| 18:47 | cait | fredericd: around? |
| 18:47 | yep | |
| 18:47 | it used to work | |
| 18:48 | rangi | cait: do you think the utf8 for the normarc might be mucked up in the .po file? |
| 18:48 | cait | I am really not sure :( geany is set up to show utf 8 |
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| 18:48 | rangi | is it showing the umlauts alright? |
| 18:48 | cait | let me check |
| 18:48 | rangi | (in the german text?) |
| 18:48 | cait | poedit does |
| 18:49 | rangi | right so i think the .po files is ok, that will do for now |
| 18:49 | anyone using normarc, will do it in norwegian anyway, so i wont spend time on that at the moment | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Have a nice seder, everyone! |
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| 18:50 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6207 : Template scoping error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5de6c1902da61902d> / Adding another sponsoring library to the credits in the release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]405bb5a996a58ec6b> |
| 18:50 | rangi | @later tell magnuse bug6207 should be fixed and merge into master and new/enh/bug_5579 |
| 18:50 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:50 | rangi | ok im outta here until after meetings |
| 18:50 | cait | rangi: I agree |
| 18:50 | rangi: I even copy the wrong looking strings ;) | |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | @later tell rangi new/enh/bug_5579 has my blessing for merging |
| 18:55 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | @later tell rangi if you want a branch with my signoffs, pull from git://git.librarypolice.com/git/koha-galen.git bug5579-final |
| 19:00 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:00 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 19:04 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5897] Hide name of reviewer / comment writer in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5897> |
| 19:09 | cait | @later tell rangi it seems a lot of the fuzzy strings are only fuzzy because of an additional space at the end of the string |
| 19:09 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #200: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/200/ |
| 19:24 | * Chris Cormack: Adding another sponsoring library to the credits in the release notes | |
| 19:24 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6207 : Template scoping error | |
| 19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6207 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't delete item |
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| 19:39 | rangi | cait: orly? |
| 19:39 | cait | meeting already over? |
| 19:40 | rangi | that should be fixable, trimming trailing space |
| 19:40 | cait | yes |
| 19:40 | rangi | naw on the bus |
| 19:40 | cait | ah |
| 19:40 | yep, would perhaps kill a lot of the fuzzy stuff | |
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| 19:43 | cait | some strings are cut of because of a link inside the string - but that's probably harder to fix. the space could be a win |
| 19:43 | rangi | ill have a look today if I get a chance |
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| 19:59 | cait | rangi: I will do more testing - don't worry about it |
| 20:00 | rhcl | why is there a bird on rangi's head? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | ^.6 |
| 20:01 | rangi | heh |
| 20:01 | thats my hat | |
| 20:02 | rhcl | a hat is supposed to protect you from environmental events, not cause them like that one might |
| 20:03 | rangi | that was at the markets the day before kohacon |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | that bird kind of snapped at spud |
| 20:03 | but he still likes parrots! | |
| 20:05 | magnuse | rangi, cait: what's that about normarc? problem with strings from the xslt? |
| 20:05 | rangi | yeah not a biggy dont worry about it |
| 20:05 | cait | magnuse: I think the character enconding doesn't look right - but I think it will be no problem for your normarc files |
| 20:05 | rangi | it can wait til after 3.4.0 |
| 20:05 | cait | it's only on the 'english site' of things |
| 20:06 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:07 | magnuse | ok, thanks, i'll worry about it later then |
| 20:15 | cait | don't worry :) |
| 20:16 | magnuse | be happy? |
| 20:19 | * magnuse | would be happy if i could spend all my work-time on koha... :-) |
| 20:19 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | (for srs) |
| 20:19 | magnuse | yay |
| 20:20 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good time of the day |
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| 20:35 | rangi | lol |
| 20:35 | irc in a cafe ftw | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 20:36 | rangi | the nice waitress just gave me a piece of slice on the house |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 20:36 | rangi | 'cos u look so busy' |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | hehehehehehehe |
| 20:36 | rangi | busy talking ... thats me |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | you are intently managing the imminent release of the worlds best open source library autmation system |
| 20:37 | of course you deserve it | |
| 20:38 | cait | what wizzyrea said :) |
| 20:38 | * cait | hums happily - only 100 strings missing now |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | cait++ |
| 20:38 | cait | for opac |
| 20:42 | rangi | yay |
| 20:46 | cait | rangi: my test pages look really good and completely translated now :) |
| 20:46 | rangi | yay |
| 20:46 | * rangi | munches slice happily |
| 20:47 | cait | :) |
| 20:50 | small template issue - in my result list I always see the Tags: label, although I have not tags for that record | |
| 20:51 | and online Access doesn't show my url from the title, but I can see it in detail view | |
| 20:51 | but translation works :) | |
| 20:52 | rangi | I bet u can fix that |
| 20:52 | they will be IF | |
| 20:52 | with the wrong variable name | |
| 20:53 | IF something.something when it should be IF something | |
| 20:53 | or vice versa | |
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| 20:58 | bg | rangi when you say slice - what do you mean - a slice of pizza? |
| 20:58 | rangi | ahh no |
| 20:58 | hmm how to explain | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea: help a brother out | |
| 20:59 | its a genre of cake I guess? | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | well, I think of it like lemon bars? |
| 20:59 | something cakey, with a topping type stuff on it | |
| 20:59 | rangi | this was raspberry slice |
| 21:00 | so had cakey stuff, they raspberry jam | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | so like a cakey or crumb bottom, then a jam on top |
| 21:00 | yea, similar to a lemon bar | |
| 21:00 | rangi | more cakey stuff (almost shortbread) |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | joann has some recipes on her blog |
| 21:00 | un mo | |
| 21:00 | rangi | then some icing |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | lots of butter |
| 21:00 | bg | yummy I think I'm going to go find a slice (we've got some lemon bars around here) |
| 21:00 | rangi | my fave is ginger slice |
| 21:01 | cait | rangi: I fear you are right |
| 21:01 | but it's getting late :( | |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | http://lesttheybelost.blogspot[…]-fudge-slice.html |
| 21:01 | rangi | but chocolate and caramel is good too |
| 21:01 | cait | hm caramel |
| 21:01 | rangi | cait: ill have a look |
| 21:01 | ok meetings | |
| 21:01 | wahanui | meetings are beginning of march or april |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | http://lesttheybelost.blogspot[…]cchini-slice.html |
| 21:01 | cait | rangi: I can take a look tomorrow |
| 21:01 | don't worry, will file a bug | |
| 21:01 | rangi | damn right they are |
| 21:01 | bbl | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | http://lesttheybelost.blogspot[…]-anzac-slice.html |
| 21:02 | cait | wahanui: forget meetings |
| 21:02 | wahanui | cait: I forgot meetings |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | now that I've made you all hungry |
| 21:02 | http://lesttheybelost.blogspot[…]oconut-slice.html | |
| 21:03 | that's all of jo's slices :P | |
| 21:03 | that she's posted so far | |
| 21:03 | cait | and all sound very yummy |
| 21:03 | and yes, you made me hungry! | |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | technically jo made you hungry :) |
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| 21:14 | cait | hmpf. |
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| 21:35 | sekjal | alright, one step closer to reconciling the two Member search routines into one |
| 21:36 | with that, I depart | |
| 21:36 | goodnight, #koha! | |
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| 21:51 | cait | opac done! |
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| 22:30 | druthb | o/ |
| 22:47 | rhcl | r u on the night shift druthb? |
| 22:48 | druthb | that's a complex question, rhcl. I'm on the Get-Things-Done shift, mostly. |
| 22:49 | gmcharlt | druthb: what does that make the morning shift? ;) |
| 22:50 | druthb | The Get-some-things-done shift. ;-) |
| 23:02 | conan | anyone used gitorious before? I can't find how to tell git to tell ssh to use another identity file instead of ~/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 23:05 | scratch that, I found it :) | |
| 23:28 | rangi | back |
| 23:42 | conan | rangi: you awake at this time? |
| 23:42 | rangi | its 11.44am |
| 23:42 | i better be :) | |
| 23:42 | conan | jojo |
| 23:43 | I'm preparing with Kriegel a translation to spanish for the SQL scripts | |
| 23:44 | my initial idea was to just make a copy of whatever is under 'en' folder and work the files | |
| 23:44 | rangi | thats what most people have done |
| 23:44 | conan | however he told me that when he brought up this idea here 'them' told him not to |
| 23:45 | rangi | but dont do the sysprefs |
| 23:45 | conan | that he needed to push a full translated subdir |
| 23:45 | rangi | yes when you want it merged |
| 23:45 | conan | hum... then Kriegel has missunderstood |
| 23:45 | rangi | it needs to be a copy of all the files |
| 23:46 | (copy the sysprefs but dont translate them, they are handled by the .pref files) | |
| 23:46 | but the frameworks, sample notes ext | |
| 23:46 | you can translate | |
| 23:46 | so copy the whole en folder | |
| 23:46 | conan | I'm asking this because of what this I had to make a git repo somewhere else for him and me to communicate, but I think it would be better to just have this under koha |
| 23:46 | rangi | then translate the files you want |
| 23:47 | yes, if a file is not translated, it needs to exist in the es/ dir | |
| 23:47 | conan | ah, ok, but there will be no merge until it's done, right? |
| 23:47 | so I need to host the repo somewhere else | |
| 23:47 | rangi | but if its no translated it will show up in english |
| 23:47 | it can merge, its harmless | |
| 23:47 | as long as it has all the files | |
| 23:47 | they dont all need to be translated | |
| 23:47 | if you see what im saying | |
| 23:47 | conan | ok, so let me put it in another words right now: |
| 23:48 | rangi | it would just mean if someone did an install in es, and it wasnt all translated, theyd have some in es some in english |
| 23:48 | conan | can we make an es-ES subdir tonight which will be just a copy of 'en' and will it come in the next pull anybody does? |
| 23:49 | rangi | not in master at the moment no |
| 23:49 | because im releasing 3.4.0 on friday | |
| 23:49 | conan | do we need to branch then? |
| 23:49 | rangi | and that would be just dangerous ;) |
| 23:49 | conan | of course |
| 23:49 | rangi | but after the release |
| 23:49 | then yes | |
| 23:49 | it can go into master | |
| 23:49 | conan | ah! cool |
| 23:50 | I knew it couldn't be so complicated | |
| 23:50 | rangi | and patches to translate files can be submitted to it |
| 23:50 | conan | I'll delete the gitorious repo then :) |
| 23:50 | rangi | its no harm having ur own repo |
| 23:50 | that tracks master | |
| 23:50 | because then you can send a pull request | |
| 23:50 | rather than patches | |
| 23:50 | which is good for biggish files | |
| 23:51 | conan | of course, but the thingy was to have something up online for him, me and anyone else to communicate |
| 23:51 | rangi | yeah, doesnt hurt to still do it in gitorious and just send pull requests as you complete files |
| 23:51 | its up to you though :) | |
| 23:55 | Waylon joined #koha | |
| 23:55 | Waylon | Hiya all! |
| 23:56 | rangi | hi Waylon |
| 23:56 | Waylon | jcamins_away: .. you still away? |
| 23:56 | rangi: seems, according to my boss, author names arn't being sorted.. | |
| 23:56 | arabic names. | |
| 23:57 | rangi | i wouldnt know |
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