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| 00:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5791 - Robust handling of deleted/non-existent biblios and authority records <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d882bd4c2bd179a66> / Bug 5671 Links on My Summary - followup patch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd092f9e9c5b6e04d> |
| 00:12 | Waylon | does seem strange... in a search resulting in 8 records... a-z, slot 3 record, becomes the last record in z-a |
| 00:12 | whereas it should of been third to last? | |
| 00:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 201 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 00:26 | mib_renae | hello need some help with password on koha |
| 00:28 | how do i change the password | |
| 00:29 | rangi | you should only ever log in with that password during install/upgrades as soon as it is installed you should make a staff user and login with that |
| 00:29 | JesseM left #koha | |
| 00:30 | mib_renae | it wont let me in at all to do anything it say authentication failed |
| 00:30 | rangi | well then you are using the wrong password |
| 00:30 | mib_renae | i got the password from the list u told me to do |
| 00:31 | rangi | the one at the bottom of the file? |
| 00:31 | mib_renae | there was only 2 passwords and i tried both |
| 00:31 | didn't like either of them | |
| 00:31 | rangi | what user? |
| 00:31 | wahanui | user is logged in already eh? |
| 00:32 | mib_renae | instance koha-koha |
| 00:32 | no | |
| 00:32 | rangi | no the username you are logging in with, is that the one in the file too |
| 00:34 | mib_renae | just says koha-koha the word instance is not thee |
| 00:34 | but the word instance is in the login | |
| 00:34 | eythian | it shouldn't be |
| 00:35 | mib_renae | well it is there |
| 00:35 | i thought it was odd | |
| 00:35 | can i fix it | |
| 00:35 | or do i need to fix it | |
| 00:35 | rangi | hmmm |
| 00:35 | eythian | just don't type it when you're trying to log in. |
| 00:36 | mib_renae | no it is in the actual user name |
| 00:36 | i cant remove it | |
| 00:36 | rangi | just dont type it when you are logging in |
| 00:37 | mib_renae | it comes up automatically in the loggin |
| 00:37 | rangi | delete it |
| 00:37 | its just a webbrowser | |
| 00:38 | mib_renae | ok i will try that then put the password in |
| 00:38 | rangi | if you cant type in the username box, your web browser is broken, which isnt a koha problem |
| 00:38 | yes | |
| 00:39 | you must have typed instance at some point, the browser remembers what people typed last time | |
| 00:40 | conan | rangi: isn't default user 'kohaadmin' ? not koha-koha |
| 00:40 | mib_renae left #koha | |
| 00:40 | rangi | conan: he is using the packages |
| 00:40 | it will be whatever name he used when creating the instance | |
| 00:40 | conan | ah |
| 00:40 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha |
| 00:40 | conan | he's gone |
| 00:41 | rangi | yup |
| 00:41 | web based irc clients, bad wrong and evil | |
| 00:42 | conan | shouldn't we discourage cross posting on list? I've seen too many cross posts lately |
| 00:43 | and with cross posted answers! | |
| 00:43 | rangi | yeah i tried to discourage it |
| 00:44 | it especially annoys me when someone cross posts and apologises | |
| 00:44 | if you know its wrong... dont do it!! | |
| 00:44 | i cross post things like release announcements | |
| 00:44 | i think thats ok | |
| 00:44 | conan | yeah, but worst is our developers are encouraging it by answering to both lists |
| 00:44 | rangi | yep |
| 00:45 | conan | you're the boss :P |
| 00:45 | rangi | that release one should be just on koha |
| 00:45 | doesnt need to be -devel too | |
| 00:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #201: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/201/ |
| 00:54 | * Magnus Enger: Bug 5671 Links on My Summary - followup patch | |
| 00:54 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5791 - Robust handling of deleted/non-existent biblios and authority records | |
| 00:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary" |
| 00:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities | |
| 01:01 | eythian | rangi: a bit late now, but it would actually be koha_koha |
| 01:01 | rangi | ah yeah, the old stop typing things and cut and paste |
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| 01:03 | renae | hi back again |
| 01:08 | i think i might be logging in the wrong place on the wiki install it the last line says i should be able to see something at http://kohadmin/ and http://koha/ from my desktop what would that be | |
| 01:08 | im not sure if it is there | |
| 01:08 | i have been loggin on at the very first loggin when u first turn on the computer the ubuntu loggin is that correct | |
| 01:08 | where there is a pic of a little person and then it says koha instance koha-koha | |
| 01:08 | under my ubuntu loggin | |
| 01:09 | eythian | No |
| 01:09 | you need to log in to your computer and use a web browser | |
| 01:10 | You log in to your computer using a normal user account | |
| 01:10 | renae | like google |
| 01:10 | ok | |
| 01:10 | the what | |
| 01:10 | wahanui | somebody said the was a branch I pushed on Wednesday lemme find it |
| 01:10 | eythian | google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company. |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea_away | wahanui: forget the |
| 01:10 | wahanui | wizzyrea_away: I forgot the |
| 01:11 | renae | what do i do next |
| 01:12 | what web browser | |
| 01:12 | eythian | firefox |
| 01:12 | mtj | i reckon renae should learn to install Koha the long way, as a learning exercise... |
| 01:12 | eythian | mtj: shh |
| 01:13 | mtj | ie: not use the Koha packages |
| 01:13 | rangi | yeah not helping |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea_away | mm yea not helping |
| 01:13 | renae | i did try to do it the long way and it was mind boggling |
| 01:14 | where do i go to in the web browser as i tried the address given and it wont come up | |
| 01:14 | kohaadmin | |
| 01:14 | and the other one | |
| 01:14 | wahanui | somebody said the other one was old and wrong tho, so not having it, isnt a bad thing |
| 01:14 | eythian | you need to tell us what happens |
| 01:15 | wizzyrea_away | wahanui: forget the other one |
| 01:15 | wahanui | wizzyrea_away: I forgot other one |
| 01:15 | conan | renae: what address are you trying? |
| 01:16 | renae | can i do it on another pc or does it have to be the one with koha on it |
| 01:16 | conan | copy& paste the url you're trying to access here |
| 01:16 | eythian | renae: what happens when you try? |
| 01:16 | we need to know that in order to see why it's not working | |
| 01:16 | conan | renae: let's try that one for now, to not complicate things |
| 01:17 | renae | ok well i will go and try again i am on my faster pc at the moment then i can get the exact problem |
| 01:21 | ok it says server not found | |
| 01:21 | i clicked on the link in the wiki file | |
| 01:21 | eythian | OK. On the one with Koha on it, you need to edit the file called '/etc/hosts' |
| 01:22 | renae | in gedit |
| 01:22 | eythian | yes |
| 01:22 | in the file, look for the line that starts with 127.0.0.1 | |
| 01:23 | and put at the end of that line " koha kohaadmin" | |
| 01:23 | and then save the file, close the editor | |
| 01:23 | renae | so i go to terminal and what do i type to get to the file |
| 01:23 | eythian | sudo gedit /etc/hosts |
| 01:24 | the same as for editing the files that you did yesterday | |
| 01:24 | renae | ok |
| 01:24 | im going to run over and do that and come back | |
| 01:25 | eythian | You should use the same compouter for setting it up as for talking on, that way you can copy and paste. |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea_away | that would also tell us for sure that networking is working on the server ;) |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea_away is now known as wizzy_home | |
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| 01:29 | conan | tcohen: you should be sleeping! |
| 01:29 | did you fixed it? | |
| 01:29 | tcohen | just downloaded the latest Fringe chapter |
| 01:29 | conan | jeje |
| 01:29 | tcohen | yeap, but it is scheduled for 3.6 |
| 01:30 | conan | too late I guess |
| 01:30 | tcohen | it was the syntax of search.pref |
| 01:30 | its ok, we can still use it in production here :-D | |
| 01:30 | conan | which line? |
| 01:31 | rangi | it'll go into master, once 3.4 is branched |
| 01:31 | (and its signed off again ;)) | |
| 01:32 | tcohen | several lines, i'll rephrase some explaining lines too |
| 01:32 | i'll send the patch tomorrow at work | |
| 01:32 | i was pissed today as i have to work on ica-atom for several days from now on | |
| 01:33 | i wanted to free that memory buffer from my brain | |
| 01:33 | eythian | that's a good sounding reason to drink alright |
| 01:33 | conan | what's ica-atom? |
| 01:33 | tcohen | its an archival software |
| 01:34 | I think UNCuyo uses it | |
| 01:34 | renae | ok i got into koha catalog but it says it if offline |
| 01:34 | see sys admin | |
| 01:34 | wizzy_home | woohoo |
| 01:34 | tcohen | at least that ica stuff will take me to europe soon, hopefully to roland garros too :-D |
| 01:35 | conan | nice |
| 01:35 | tcohen | good night for those in my tz, see you later to the rest |
| 01:35 | conan | I don't know yet all the stuff they use here, they use plenty of stuff, today I met isismarc |
| 01:36 | tcohen | oops, i hope you leave that soon :-D |
| 01:36 | will chat tomorrow on that stuff | |
| 01:36 | byeeeee | |
| 01:36 | conan | bye |
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| 01:36 | conan | tar.gz dl finished, I'm going to bed too |
| 01:36 | byw all | |
| 01:36 | conan left #koha | |
| 01:36 | renae | says it is down for sys main |
| 01:37 | wizzy_home | renae: that's probably the opac |
| 01:38 | try the other URL | |
| 01:38 | renae | ok |
| 01:38 | wizzy_home | you'll need to run through the web installer. |
| 01:39 | renae | the same thing as the other one |
| 01:40 | is it a problem with my pc or do i just hve to wait till it is online again | |
| 01:40 | eythian | renae: sudo koha-enable koha |
| 01:40 | in the terminal on the koha machine | |
| 01:40 | renae | ok |
| 01:40 | eythian | it starts up in maint mode by default |
| 01:41 | wizzy_home | < didn't know that, cool. |
| 01:41 | renae | ok so i put that command in then try again |
| 01:41 | eythian | yes |
| 01:45 | renae | ok did that and it is still the same |
| 01:45 | eythian | did you try both URLs? |
| 01:45 | renae | yes |
| 01:45 | eythian | especially, did you try the kohaadmin one |
| 01:45 | renae | yes |
| 01:46 | eythian | and what, exactly, does the message say? |
| 01:46 | rangi | maybe restart apache2 |
| 01:46 | renae | hang i need to check |
| 01:46 | rangi | sudo apache2ctl restart |
| 01:47 | renae | yes restarting webserver apache 2 waiting |
| 01:49 | u want me to put in the sudo apache command | |
| 01:50 | eythian | yes |
| 01:50 | renae | ok |
| 01:50 | eythian | and tell us exactly what the maintenance message says. |
| 02:00 | renae | ok that it is still not working it goes into cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl and the message is 'the koha online cat is offline for sys main well be back soon!' |
| 02:01 | i tried both | |
| 02:03 | u there | |
| 02:05 | hello anyone | |
| 02:05 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6203] can't plan for serials <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6203> |
| 02:06 | mtj | renae: the catalyst people may be in a meeting now |
| 02:07 | renae | oh will they be back later |
| 02:08 | mtj | i havent used the Koha packages yet, so i wont be much help at this stage |
| 02:08 | renae | well at the moment im just trying to get onto kohaadmin to get it up and running |
| 02:09 | mtj | using what url? |
| 02:09 | http://kohaadmin ? | |
| 02:09 | renae | tried both |
| 02:09 | eythian | That maintmode thing is exactly what I'd expect to see if you were accessing the opac side, and not the admin side. |
| 02:09 | renae | it is saying the cat is offline |
| 02:09 | for sys maintenance | |
| 02:10 | to do with apache it think | |
| 02:10 | mtj | yep, that is expected, for the OPAC side |
| 02:10 | eythian | yes. It's actually offline because you need to run the installer, which should be done by going to http://kohaadmin |
| 02:10 | why that isn't working for you I don't know. | |
| 02:10 | You are trying this on the computer that has koha on it? | |
| 02:10 | renae | yes |
| 02:11 | eythian | try going to http://127.0.0.1 and tell me what happens |
| 02:11 | renae | i put in sudo apache2 ctl restart but it was stillthe same |
| 02:12 | eythian | yes, it will be |
| 02:12 | renae | ok i need to go to the pc with koha |
| 02:12 | eythian | you should use IRC from that, it makes more sense |
| 02:13 | renae | i did change the 127.0.0.1 line to include the koha and kohaadmin is that what u r looking for |
| 02:13 | wizzy_home | no, type in the address bar of your browser http://127.0.0.1 |
| 02:13 | renae | ok will try that now |
| 02:13 | eythian | No. I want to see what your webserver does when asked to go somewhere that shouldn't be set up |
| 02:13 | it'll give an message, what that message is is the important bit. | |
| 02:15 | renae | it is the same message as before |
| 02:15 | eythian | paste the output of 'ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled' in here |
| 02:16 | renae | i cant im on a diff pc |
| 02:16 | eythian | well then type it in here exactly right |
| 02:16 | renae | where is this |
| 02:16 | wahanui | this is old |
| 02:16 | wizzy_home | wahanui: forget this |
| 02:16 | wahanui | wizzy_home: I forgot this |
| 02:16 | eythian | or, use IRC from your koha pc so that you can |
| 02:16 | into a terminal | |
| 02:17 | renae | so u want me to type in that comand and give u the output |
| 02:17 | eythian | yes |
| 02:18 | renae | ok |
| 02:19 | mtj left #koha | |
| 02:19 | eythian | what is the output? |
| 02:20 | (in case anyone else is interested, I think the problem is that there's an apache config file from the earlier attempt to make it work that's overriding the virtualhosted one.) | |
| 02:22 | renae | ok it just come up with koha |
| 02:22 | eythian | oh? that's dissapointing. |
| 02:23 | renae | oh no is that bad |
| 02:23 | eythian | are you sure? It didn't say '000-default' or anything else? |
| 02:23 | renae | no just koha |
| 02:23 | eythian | well, it means my theory is wrong |
| 02:23 | renae | is it fixable |
| 02:24 | eythian | I don't know because I don't know what the problem is now. |
| 02:24 | I was hoping there'd be something else in there that was causing it. | |
| 02:24 | renae | well why does it say koha |
| 02:24 | eythian | because that's the configuration for your koha site. |
| 02:25 | wizzy_home | that file is the file that defines the apache configuration for your site |
| 02:25 | what he said. | |
| 02:25 | :) | |
| 02:25 | renae | well what should it be |
| 02:25 | and can it be fixed | |
| 02:25 | eythian | I don't know what's broken |
| 02:25 | paste the contents of it into here: http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
| 02:26 | renae | just the koha |
| 02:26 | eythian | yes |
| 02:26 | renae | what contents would u like |
| 02:26 | eythian | the contents of the koha file. |
| 02:27 | sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha | |
| 02:27 | err not that | |
| 02:27 | sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha | |
| 02:27 | that one | |
| 02:27 | and select all, copy, and paste it in to that site. | |
| 02:27 | renae | ok will do that now |
| 02:33 | pastebot0 | "renae" at 218.215.26.136 pasted "kohaadmin access" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18 |
| 02:33 | wizzy_home | OH |
| 02:33 | oh oh | |
| 02:33 | try | |
| 02:33 | http://koha:8080 in your address bar | |
| 02:33 | eythian | yes, that |
| 02:34 | renae | ok i have pasted |
| 02:34 | eythian | I assume that some of the other steps weren't followed correctly, and so it ended up configured differently to normal |
| 02:34 | we saw | |
| 02:34 | wizzy_home | http://koha:8080/ in your address bar |
| 02:34 | please | |
| 02:35 | renae | u mean me |
| 02:35 | wizzy_home | yep |
| 02:35 | renae | ok |
| 02:37 | well it just keeps going into google and searching | |
| 02:37 | is that right | |
| 02:37 | eythian | then you're not typing it right |
| 02:38 | renae | ok try again |
| 02:38 | wizzy_home | everything in the quotes, (but not the quotes!) "http://koha:8080" |
| 02:38 | renae | ok |
| 02:42 | ok it says unable to connect firefox cant estab con to server 8080 | |
| 02:42 | temp unavailable | |
| 02:42 | eythian | OK. You need to edit the apache config file. |
| 02:43 | renae | unable to load pages check comp network conn |
| 02:43 | eythian | to set it up the way it should have been done. |
| 02:43 | renae | ok |
| 02:43 | eythian | sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha |
| 02:43 | renae | ok |
| 02:44 | thats all | |
| 02:44 | eythian | Where it says '*:8080' about half way down, change that to be '*:80' |
| 02:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 202 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:44 | eythian | where it says 'koha:8080' a few lines below that, change it to 'kohaadmin' |
| 02:44 | these must be exact | |
| 02:45 | renae | just the words not the apostraphe |
| 02:45 | eythian | that's right |
| 02:45 | renae | ok im going to print this bit so i get it right |
| 02:46 | pastebot0 | "wizzyrea" at 76.250.251.171 pasted "correct looking koha file" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19 |
| 02:47 | eythian | renae: your file should end up looking like the one that wizzy_home just pasted |
| 02:47 | wizzy_home | that's how it should look |
| 02:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6208 : Cant add funds to a budget <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8a2ffe7acfbb4f1e> / Bug 6203 : Fix for numbering pattern not showing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f03e8d83c5a54c99> |
| 02:50 | wizzy_home | renae: basically, if it doesn't look like that paste that I just sent, it's wrong. That is the exact contents that should be in your koha file. |
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| 03:02 | renae | im sorry my pc dropped out and i lost what u said |
| 03:02 | can i get the paste address again | |
| 03:03 | wizzy_home | http://paste.koha-community.org/19 |
| 03:03 | eythian | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2011-04-20 |
| 03:03 | at the bottom of that | |
| 03:04 | renae | ok thanks |
| 03:04 | i changed the 8080 on the intranet line to *80 and the servername assign user id line to kohaadmin is that correct | |
| 03:05 | did i get the right line | |
| 03:05 | wizzy_home | no |
| 03:05 | renae | shit |
| 03:05 | wizzy_home | look at the paste |
| 03:05 | renae | ok |
| 03:06 | eythian | actually, what you wrote doesn't make sense. There is no servername assign user id line |
| 03:06 | there's a servername line, and an assign user id line, but they're two different lines. | |
| 03:06 | one is correct, one is not | |
| 03:15 | Just so everyone knows, it's Death Metal Wednesday today. Make sure you're participating! | |
| 03:15 | space_librarian | Right. Time to find some death metal. |
| 03:16 | eythian | that's what the LAN is for. |
| 03:16 | wizzy_home | it's not wednesday yet here. >.> |
| 03:16 | space_librarian | I know. Any suggestions? |
| 03:16 | wizzy_home: forewarned is forearmed... | |
| 03:17 | wizzy_home | *nod* |
| 03:17 | * wizzy_home | goes straight for ICP |
| 03:17 | wizzy_home | wait |
| 03:17 | that may not qualify. | |
| 03:17 | * space_librarian | snerks |
| 03:17 | eythian | I have Tristania playing now. That's good for today. |
| 03:17 | ICP doesn't count. | |
| 03:17 | wizzy_home | hrmph. |
| 03:18 | pastebot0 | "renae" at 218.215.30.198 pasted "this is my file" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20 |
| 03:18 | eythian | Sorry. Just the way it is. |
| 03:18 | wizzy_home | snerk = best laugh word ever |
| 03:18 | eythian | renae: that is correct |
| 03:18 | wizzy_home | renae: looks good |
| 03:19 | eythian | wizzy_home: the hunting of the snerk? |
| 03:19 | space_librarian | wizzy_home: I know. I love it. |
| 03:19 | wizzy_home | renae: restart your apache now please |
| 03:19 | eythian | sudo apache2ctl restart |
| 03:20 | renae | ok |
| 03:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #202: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/202/ |
| 03:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6203 : Fix for numbering pattern not showing | |
| 03:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6208 : Cant add funds to a budget | |
| 03:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6203 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, can't plan for serials |
| 03:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6208 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Not possible to add funds to budgets | |
| 03:24 | renae | done, it still says server not found |
| 03:24 | wizzy_home | for http://kohaadmin? |
| 03:24 | renae | yes |
| 03:24 | both | |
| 03:24 | eythian | wait |
| 03:24 | server not found is a different error to what you described before | |
| 03:24 | you've changed something you're doing | |
| 03:25 | previously it was going into maintenance mode | |
| 03:25 | renae | hangon let me check that again |
| 03:26 | yes it says server not found at kohaadmin | |
| 03:27 | eythian | are you on the Koha computer? |
| 03:27 | renae | not right now no |
| 03:27 | eythian | did you do this on the koha computer? |
| 03:27 | wizzy_home | when you tried it were you? |
| 03:27 | renae | yes |
| 03:28 | eythian | then that doesn't make sense. Unless you went and changed your hosts file, it should not be saying 'server not found' |
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| 03:29 | renae | i haven't changed anything accept what u all told me to do |
| 03:29 | ronald left #koha | |
| 03:29 | AmitG | heya chris |
| 03:29 | eythian | try browsing to http://127.0.0.1 again |
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| 03:33 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6202] no serials info showing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6202> |
| 03:33 | mib-renae | sorry mib just went off |
| 03:34 | what have i missed | |
| 03:34 | have they gone | |
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| 03:35 | mib-renae | anyone there |
| 03:35 | eythian | you could check the log that I sent you a half hour ago to see what you've missed. |
| 03:35 | mib-renae | the paste |
| 03:35 | wahanui | the paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 03:36 | mib-renae | 19 |
| 03:37 | r u talking to me | |
| 03:37 | wizzy_home | wahanui is a learning bot |
| 03:37 | wahanui? | |
| 03:37 | wahanui | yes, wizzy_home? |
| 03:37 | wizzy_home | he does fun things like |
| 03:37 | eythian | wahanui: tell us about yourself |
| 03:37 | wizzy_home | version control using git? |
| 03:37 | wahanui | version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 03:38 | eythian | wahanui: tell mib-renae about yourself |
| 03:38 | mib-renae | ok im comfused |
| 03:39 | eythian | yes. |
| 03:39 | mib-renae | what exactly do u want to know |
| 03:39 | wizzy_home | i'm kind of out of ideas :/ |
| 03:40 | eythian | What happens when you browse to http://127.0.0.1 on your koha machine |
| 03:40 | mib-renae | i tried it before but i will try it again |
| 03:40 | eythian | I'm expecting different results |
| 03:41 | or at least, results that will tell us something | |
| 03:41 | mib-renae | ok |
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| 03:42 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 03:43 | space_librarian | kia ora! |
| 03:43 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 03:43 | * eythian | tags in Brooke_ |
| 03:43 | mib-renae | ok goes to cgi-bin/koha main says sys maiten |
| 03:44 | eythian | right, and try http://koha and http://kohaadmin |
| 03:44 | mib-renae | ok |
| 03:45 | before i do that what log did u send me | |
| 03:45 | eythian | the log for this channel |
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| 03:45 | mib-renae | ok |
| 03:45 | well i didn't get it where is it | |
| 03:46 | eythian | it doesn't matter |
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| 03:46 | mib-renae | ok |
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| 03:54 | mib-renae | its doing the same server not found the koha one just keeps taking me to the koha hockey site |
| 03:54 | wizzy_home | are you typing in the http:// in front of it? |
| 03:54 | mib-renae | tried it both ways |
| 03:54 | Brooke_ | http://koha-community.org/ |
| 03:56 | from time to time, I had to type a numeric in the address | |
| 03:56 | every now and then it doesn't mate to the domain properly | |
| 03:56 | strange things can happen with packet gnomes | |
| 03:56 | shouldn't, but do. | |
| 03:57 | mib-renae | i will try again and then i think i need a break for a while i can't cope with much more at the moment need coffee and food so i will try again latter if i can |
| 03:58 | wizzy_home | food and coffee will help |
| 03:58 | Brooke_ | coffee breaks are the lightbulb to roachy bugs |
| 03:58 | mib-renae | been doing this all day and im stuffed |
| 03:58 | Brooke_ | many a spurious / or ; was put to the firing squad after a rested eye :) |
| 03:59 | mib-renae | im starting to see it everywhere |
| 03:59 | bye | |
| 03:59 | Brooke_ | cheers |
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| 04:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e75043279dbe4bd6> / Bug 5917 : Fixes for innerhtml -> innerHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]23cfdf53fee01931a> / Bug 6184 : Plugin for 007 broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=6bc0db4e7c8 |
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| 04:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5897' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2892305bf857dac74> / Follow-up fix for Bug 5897 - Hide name of comment writer in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7ecc70d35ca00326c> |
| 04:24 | rangi | ah ha!! |
| 04:25 | unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql | |
| 04:25 | ERROR 2005 (HY000) at line 89: Unknown MySQL server host 'HTML' (1) | |
| 04:25 | finally figured out what the error is when installing koha in french | |
| 04:25 | it only loaded 75 sysprefs then bailed out | |
| 04:25 | thats why paul was getting the wrong setting for yuipath | |
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| 04:41 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 04:43 | space_librarian | namaste kmkale |
| 04:43 | kmkale | hi space_librarian :) |
| 04:43 | rangi | hdl: l'OPAC instead of l\'OPAC ... thats what broke it :) |
| 04:43 | i think its been broken for a long time | |
| 04:43 | space_librarian | hey kmkale, good morning so far? |
| 04:43 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 04:43 | rangi | hi kmkale |
| 04:43 | kmkale | space_librarian: yes so far.. |
| 04:44 | space_librarian | Here's hoping it stays that way |
| 04:45 | kmkale | I know it won't. Have to travel about 120km to a upcoming engineering college site. And its burning hot out there :( |
| 04:45 | space_librarian | That's no fun |
| 04:47 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 04:47 | huginn | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (9:40 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:47 | AmitG | heya kmkale |
| 04:47 | @weather Bangalore | |
| 04:47 | kmkale | hi AmitG |
| 04:47 | huginn | AmitG: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
| 04:47 | Brooke_ | need heat to make the elephants grow :) |
| 04:47 | AmitG | @weather Dehradun |
| 04:47 | huginn | AmitG: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa. |
| 04:47 | AmitG | heya Brooke_ |
| 04:47 | Brooke_ | 0/ |
| 04:47 | AmitG | @weather New Delhi |
| 04:48 | huginn | AmitG: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 28.0�C (10:00 AM IST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:48 | kmkale | next 4 months are the worst for Mumbai. Summer then Monsoon :( |
| 04:48 | AmitG | heya rangi |
| 04:48 | space_librarian | @weather Wellington |
| 04:48 | huginn | space_librarian: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error |
| 04:48 | space_librarian | gah |
| 04:48 | AmitG | heya space_librarian |
| 04:48 | wahanui | hmmm... space_librarian is a Koha poet |
| 04:48 | kmkale | :) |
| 04:48 | space_librarian | hey |
| 04:49 | Brooke_ | ooooh that's a good one :D |
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| 04:49 | space_librarian | It is, isn't it? |
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| 04:51 | kmkale | rangi++ |
| 04:52 | space_librarian | @wunder Wellington, NZ |
| 04:52 | huginn | space_librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (4:00 PM NZST on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:53 | New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing bug in the french sys pref file, duplicate sys prefs plus l'OPAC not l\'OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d32e32d4a3330c898> | |
| 04:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #203: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/203/ |
| 04:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6202 : Fix for showing subscription details | |
| 04:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6184 : Plugin for 007 broken | |
| 04:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6202 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, no serials info showing |
| 04:54 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Fixes for innerhtml -> innerHTML |
| 04:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6184 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 Plugin for 007 broken |
| 04:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit | |
| 04:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 204 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:00 | rangi | ok time for a bus ride home |
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| 05:06 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 05:06 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:06 | Brooke_ | guten tag |
| 05:06 | cait | hi Brooke_ :) |
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| 05:08 | Brooke_ | wie geht's? |
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| 05:15 | cait | Brooke_: gut, und dir? |
| 05:16 | Brooke_ | odd. |
| 05:16 | odd might pan out to good later, though. | |
| 05:16 | cait | hm? |
| 05:18 | hdl | salvete Brooke_ hope you get better. |
| 05:21 | fredericd | hi |
| 05:21 | wahanui | hello, fredericd |
| 05:21 | Brooke_ | bonjour |
| 05:22 | cait | hi fredericd |
| 05:22 | fredericd: could you perhaps take another look on pootle's permissions? some people have added suggestions but I can't do anything about them :( | |
| 05:23 | fredericd | This is a Pootle bug... |
| 05:24 | yes, I have to take another look | |
| 05:26 | cait | thx fredericd |
| 05:26 | I told people if they feel not sure about something they can add a suggestion... so they did | |
| 05:28 | rangi | heya from the bus |
| 05:28 | fredericd | It's a nice functionnality. Pootle is a good tool but somewhat bugy |
| 05:28 | When exactly 3.4 release is due? | |
| 05:29 | rangi | friday |
| 05:29 | april 22 | |
| 05:29 | fredericd | so with translations inclusion? |
| 05:29 | rangi | if possible |
| 05:30 | but I am going to recommend that ppl using other languages wait for 3.4.1 | |
| 05:30 | to give the translators more time | |
| 05:31 | fredericd | yes, that make sense. Not that much work have been done on translation till now |
| 05:31 | rangi | yeah except our uber effecient cait :) |
| 05:32 | umlaut on the u cait? | |
| 05:32 | cait | huh? |
| 05:32 | * cait | is confused |
| 05:32 | rangi | just saying only german opac is close to done |
| 05:33 | cait | ah |
| 05:33 | yes, it IS done | |
| 05:33 | rangi | yay! |
| 05:33 | cait | and my tests yesterday with the updated file looked good |
| 05:33 | will need some more tinkering while testing things | |
| 05:33 | rangi | even more yay |
| 05:33 | cait | but it always does |
| 05:34 | fredericd: I updated my file with the translation scripts | |
| 05:34 | rangi | I found a bug that was breaking installing in french |
| 05:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #204: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/204/ |
| 05:34 | cait | do you see a problem uploading that to pootle? |
| 05:34 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5897 - Hide name of comment writer in OPAC |
| 05:34 | * Chris Cormack: Fixing bug in the french sys pref file, duplicate sys prefs plus l'OPAC not l\'OPAC | |
| 05:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5897 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Hide name of reviewer / comment writer in OPAC |
| 05:34 | rangi | that was my big find |
| 05:34 | heh thanks jenkins | |
| 05:34 | that one | |
| 05:34 | cait | :) |
| 05:35 | you did a lot of things while I was sleeping | |
| 05:35 | and uber efficient people probably get more sleep! | |
| 05:35 | rangi | was a good day |
| 05:35 | even if it did start with a meeting | |
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| 05:37 | cait | hehe |
| 05:38 | looking through the mail now | |
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| 05:39 | cait | thx for 6208 rangi :) |
| 05:39 | rangi | np |
| 05:39 | cait | started to test acq today - but when you can't spend money it's a bit hard :) |
| 05:39 | rangi | heh |
| 05:39 | cait | today = yesterday |
| 05:42 | rangi: do you plan to look at the trailing spaces? because if you do I will wait before uploading the new file to pootle? | |
| 05:44 | no pressure, only asking :) | |
| 05:48 | or better not upload it? | |
| 05:48 | hm. | |
| 05:48 | eythian | he's probably having dinner or something |
| 05:49 | cait | ok :) |
| 05:49 | and hi eythian | |
| 05:49 | eythian | hi :) |
| 05:49 | cait | and you? no dinner? |
| 05:50 | eythian | naw, want to finish something here, then go home to meet a possible flatmate, and then go back into town to catch a movie. |
| 05:51 | cait | busy :) |
| 05:51 | eythian | quite |
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| 06:09 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:09 | cait | god morgen magnus |
| 06:13 | h | |
| 06:13 | m | |
| 06:13 | magnuse: does search to hold work for you on master? | |
| 06:15 | and does overriding a hold work for you? | |
| 06:16 | I have the sys pref activated but my buttons stays disabled even after confirmed the alert | |
| 06:18 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 06:18 | hi cait | |
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| 06:23 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 06:28 | fredericd | .pref file for Enhanced Content has been renamed from enhanced-content.pref to enhanced_content.pref in 3.4 |
| 06:29 | as a consequence, all translation of those syspref are lost! | |
| 06:32 | magnuse | cait: sorry, i drifted off... |
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| 06:33 | cait | fredericd: hm, that explains it |
| 06:34 | I wondered why I had to redo those | |
| 06:34 | fredericd | yes, and this is the most crowded syspref tab |
| 06:35 | cait | there are worse things |
| 06:35 | rangi fixed a lot the last few days | |
| 06:36 | * cait | still has about 13000 words in staff :( |
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| 06:37 | Nouman | hi all |
| 06:37 | I am installing koha via packages | |
| 06:37 | any one help me | |
| 06:40 | cait | @later tell rangi: umlauts in updated pref file are broken in pootle |
| 06:40 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:41 | cait | bye all |
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| 06:41 | rangi | @later tell cait umm those were generated with the old system |
| 06:41 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:43 | magnuse | nengard++ # for the awesome screencasts |
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| 06:44 | rangi | @later tell kf those were generated from the old system, I haven't uploaded anything to pootle |
| 06:44 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:44 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 06:44 | rangi | @later tell kf, are they ok in poedit? |
| 06:44 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:44 | rangi | @later tell kf are they ok in poedit? |
| 06:44 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:45 | magnuse | kia ora Brooke_ |
| 06:45 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 06:46 | magnuse | burning the midnight oil? |
| 06:50 | eythian | hmm, so hitting logout on the staff client first asks if I want to empty my cart. That's wierd. Probably need to upgrade this koha. |
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| 06:59 | magnuse | hm, i still have the same problem with deleting items, even after "git checkout origin/new/bug_6207" |
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| 07:06 | Brooke_ | I yield. Knackered. |
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| 07:07 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m julian & francharb |
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| 07:07 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
| 07:08 | francharb | hi magnuse |
| 07:08 | hello all | |
| 07:08 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 07:08 | magnuse | bonjour hdl |
| 07:08 | julian | hello magnuse & #koha |
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| 07:09 | hdl | hi all |
| 07:09 | kf | back :) |
| 07:09 | hi hdl | |
| 07:09 | rangi: no, poedit shows them wrong - I haven't checked the files from pootle before updating them | |
| 07:10 | rangi: can try to do that a little later. but the updated files were wrong. | |
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| 07:15 | magnuse | hola miguelxercode |
| 07:17 | rangi | right ill look into it |
| 07:17 | but need to know if they were ok first | |
| 07:17 | kf | yes |
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| 07:17 | rangi | cos once they are broken you can't unbreak them |
| 07:18 | kf | have to deal with some horizon issues first today, but will do this next |
| 07:18 | rangi | cool let me know |
| 07:19 | paul_p | hello world |
| 07:19 | * paul_p | repaired his bike this morning... hard job... |
| 07:20 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:21 | kf | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:22 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 07:22 | i found the problem with the french install .. it had been there for a while! | |
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| 07:22 | paul_p | rangi, some details ? |
| 07:22 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d32e32d4a3330c898 |
| 07:23 | unescaped ' | |
| 07:23 | l'OPAC not l\'OPAC | |
| 07:23 | paul_p | wow ! There are no warnings during setup... (like a mySQL insert failed) |
| 07:24 | rangi | ahh there was when i ran it |
| 07:24 | but it was quite hidden | |
| 07:24 | paul_p | rangi, webinstaller you mean ? |
| 07:24 | rangi | yep |
| 07:24 | paul_p | rangi, does it mean the yuipath was wrong because of this problem too ? |
| 07:25 | strange, because by default, it seems to be "local", and I switched to local again to speed up a lot.. | |
| 07:25 | is there something wrong here: | |
| 07:25 | 135 INSERT INTO `systempreferences` (variable,value,explanation,options,type) VALUES('yuipath','local','Insérer le chemin pour les outils yahoo. Mettez local si vous n''êtes pas connecté en permanence à l''internet',"local|http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.5.1/build",'Choice'); | |
| 07:25 | ? | |
| 07:25 | rangi | it wasnt set |
| 07:26 | no it didnt even get that far | |
| 07:26 | paul_p | ah, OK! and with the 3.2 syspref system, you don't notice it ! |
| 07:26 | rangi | the syspref didnt exist |
| 07:26 | paul_p | got it |
| 07:26 | rangi | exactly |
| 07:26 | so it was a lot of them, suddenly the opac was no longer public | |
| 07:26 | etc | |
| 07:26 | paul_p | deeply hidden bug, I agree... |
| 07:26 | rangi | yep |
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| 07:29 | rangi | paul_p: we should ask Frere Sebastian if we can make tshirts |
| 07:30 | Koha: We have monks doing our security | |
| 07:30 | ;-) | |
| 07:30 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 07:30 | AmitG | heya paul_p |
| 07:30 | kf | hehe |
| 07:30 | AmitG | heya kf |
| 07:30 | kf | me knows about 3 monks that have worked on koha so far |
| 07:30 | seems a lot to me | |
| 07:32 | rangi | we need some of the ones who brew beer :) |
| 07:32 | paul_p | lol :D |
| 07:32 | * magnuse | would like to have one of those shirts! |
| 07:32 | magnuse | rangi: perhaps there are some close to kf? |
| 07:32 | rangi | paul_p: ive been saving the wines you gave me, will open then tomorrow (as friday is a holiday) to celebrate 3.4.0 |
| 07:33 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:33 | rangi | or chocolate making monks |
| 07:33 | those would be good too :) | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | ooh even better (for me) |
| 07:33 | rangi | (do they exist?) |
| 07:33 | magnuse | let's hope so! |
| 07:33 | paul_p | or chocolate making monks => I missed something probably |
| 07:34 | rangi | ahh was continuing with my beer making thought :) |
| 07:36 | * kf | must sadly confess that she doesn't know beer or chocolate making monks |
| 07:36 | magnuse | http://www.holyspiritmonastery[…]ge/departments/5/ ;-) |
| 07:36 | rangi | kf: did you know kristina makes chocolate |
| 07:36 | its very good too | |
| 07:37 | kf | rangi: no I didn't! |
| 07:38 | * magnuse | didn't either |
| 07:38 | rangi | and bread too |
| 07:38 | fredericd | Is it appropriate to release 3.4 Holly Friday? |
| 07:38 | holy | |
| 07:38 | rangi | I think so, we have a multi national, multi religion community |
| 07:39 | paul_p | rangi & magnuse : i'm a member of the community producing this : http://www.musculine.fr/ Frankly, i'm not sure it's a gift I would give to one of you (and i'm not sure it would pass the NZ barrier :D :D) |
| 07:39 | rangi | fredericd: if i release nz time, it will still be thursday for you |
| 07:39 | :) | |
| 07:39 | paul_p | fredericd, I don't see why it wouldn't be (and I speak as a member of the catholic church here) |
| 07:39 | fredericd | I'm just asking |
| 07:40 | rangi | *nod* |
| 07:40 | magnuse | paul_p: that certainly looked energetic in the picture! ;-) |
| 07:40 | paul_p | magnuse, look http://www.musculine.fr/Naturel-ccbaaaaaa.asp & ggl translate |
| 07:40 | rangi | good for rugby eh? |
| 07:40 | paul_p | rangi, definetly yes I think |
| 07:41 | (not that good for the taste though. Not that bad too) | |
| 07:41 | rangi, just FYI, magnuse & kf, during the hackfest have tested ... frog legs ... | |
| 07:41 | rangi | ahh i didnt have those |
| 07:41 | had escargot tho :) | |
| 07:42 | a piece of trivia, in NZ we call it Good Friday | |
| 07:42 | magnuse | and they were edible! |
| 07:42 | paul_p | I like a lot frog legs, I don't like escargots (I eat them when my mother in law does, but just to be polite ;-) ) |
| 07:42 | rangi | they taste like chewy garlic :) |
| 07:43 | that was my opinion | |
| 07:43 | magnuse | in norway it's "long friday" ;-) |
| 07:43 | paul_p | rangi, right. |
| 07:43 | rangi | i will have to visit again, for frog legs! |
| 07:43 | magnuse | paul_p: orange, sugar, honey - and meat? |
| 07:43 | paul_p | in France it's holy friday, but it's not holiday (monday is holiday. Probably to retrieve from sunday excessive drinking ;-) ) |
| 07:43 | magnuse, yep ;-) (beef meat) | |
| 07:44 | magnuse | wow, that's quite a combo! ;-) |
| 07:45 | * magnuse | has gremlins in his test installations... |
| 07:49 | rangi | ahh friday and monday are holiday here |
| 07:52 | kf | here too |
| 07:55 | magnuse | half of today and all of thursday, friday and monday are holidays here ;-) |
| 07:55 | rangi | magnuse wins |
| 07:55 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 07:55 | rangi | monday is 2 holidays in one for us this year |
| 07:55 | so we lose | |
| 07:55 | its easter monday | |
| 07:55 | and ANZAC day | |
| 07:56 | magnuse | bad timing! |
| 07:57 | paul_p | magnuse, you have so many holidays because of your weather: it's so depressing to have no sun for 5 months :D :D |
| 07:58 | magnuse | paul_p: that just might make sense... ;-) |
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| 08:17 | paul_p | magnuse, clrh is ill, and not working this week. So the evaluation for ILL-no project will wait for next week. Is it OK for you ? |
| 08:21 | magnuse | paul_p: yes that will be fine, everyone is off on holiday from right about now anyway! ;-) and best wishes for a speedy recovery to clrh |
| 08:26 | kf | rangi: in pootle's pref file umlauts show ok |
| 08:26 | rangi | thanks |
| 08:26 | ill go check what is happening with the update | |
| 08:27 | and its just the .pref eh? | |
| 08:27 | sorry preferences | |
| 08:27 | the opac and intranet ones are ok? | |
| 08:30 | kf | my opac file was ok |
| 08:30 | not sure about staff and don't have the file here :( | |
| 08:30 | rangi | right ill check the preferences |
| 08:31 | magnuse | paul_p: this table shows average number of sun hours in bod� over several decades: http://metlex.met.no/wiki/Soltid - 8.1 hours in january and 0.4 in december - but i live on the north side of a mountain which blocks the sun for 3 or 4 months of the year... |
| 08:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 205 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 08:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a05c5dc6aded61ac> / Bug 5917 : Testing fixing utf8 for preferences po file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]73e6d63aad1671a30> |
| 08:57 | kf | rangi++ |
| 08:57 | rangi: you are awesome! :) | |
| 08:57 | rangi | wait til you test it first |
| 08:57 | it seems to work ok here | |
| 08:58 | kf | ok |
| 09:03 | rangi | hehe |
| 09:03 | 2.2.9 on windows | |
| 09:03 | im afraid there is no help for that | |
| 09:06 | magnuse | mykoha.org? |
| 09:07 | rangi | its quite smart |
| 09:07 | .my is malaysia | |
| 09:07 | kf | mykoha.com |
| 09:07 | or co.nz | |
| 09:08 | rangi | so mykoha.org is quite cool |
| 09:08 | kf | oh |
| 09:08 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:08 | rangi | remember amzari from kohacon? |
| 09:08 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:08 | rangi | mykoha.org is his |
| 09:08 | magnuse | i was justin thinking about him when 2.2.9 was mentioned... |
| 09:08 | a ha | |
| 09:09 | rangi | we'll have to fix that for him someday |
| 09:09 | cos they will get further and further behind otherwsie | |
| 09:09 | magnuse | he was going home to convince people to use linux and 3.x, wasn't he? |
| 09:09 | rangi | farasat was |
| 09:10 | i cant remember if we had convinced amzari | |
| 09:10 | im sure we can :) | |
| 09:10 | magnuse | oh sorry, mixing them up |
| 09:10 | * magnuse | is terrible with names |
| 09:10 | rangi | i think amzari might have some linux ones already |
| 09:15 | kf | grrr |
| 09:15 | * magnuse | hides |
| 09:15 | kf | no |
| 09:15 | not you | |
| 09:15 | h...-- | |
| 09:16 | * magnuse | fears the roar of kf even if he is not to blame |
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| 09:22 | kf | :P |
| 09:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #205: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/205/ |
| 09:24 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5917 : Testing fixing utf8 for preferences po file | |
| 09:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
| 09:25 | rangi | horizon? |
| 09:29 | magnuse | hm, i'm afraid i found a problem with bug 5799 - i'll write it up in bugzilla |
| 09:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5799 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, language inconsistency |
| 09:30 | rangi | k |
| 09:30 | you mean 5799 ? | |
| 09:31 | cos that looks like a tiny one | |
| 09:31 | magnuse | i was think of bug 5579 |
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 09:32 | magnuse | lemme double check |
| 09:32 | rangi | ahh yeah thats more like it :) |
| 09:32 | kf | rangi: I will not say no |
| 09:34 | magnuse | yup, still a problem |
| 09:35 | hdl | magnuse: can you detail ? |
| 09:35 | rangi | wizzyrea was doing some testing too |
| 09:35 | but update the bug so she can make sure to test it | |
| 09:35 | magnuse | hdl: i'll put it in bugzilla |
| 09:42 | bug 5579 updated | |
| 09:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 09:43 | kf | hah, solved it! |
| 09:43 | or I hope so | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:44 | kf | ok, next ticket... |
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| 09:57 | ibeardslee | so .. should getting koha? option A via git or option B via download |
| 09:57 | what can go wrong either way? | |
| 09:57 | hdl | nothing. |
| 09:57 | wahanui | it has been said that nothing is as stressful as school |
| 09:58 | hdl | ibeardslee: I would go with git though... But I am biased |
| 09:58 | ibeardslee | why? |
| 09:58 | magnuse | wahanui: forget nothing |
| 09:58 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot nothing |
| 09:58 | hdl | because i am a developper |
| 09:58 | ibeardslee | ahh |
| 09:58 | hdl | !a |
| 09:59 | magnuse | ibeardslee: depends on how you want to use your installation |
| 09:59 | hdl | ah... wahanui forgets nothing... Does he forgive anything ? |
| 09:59 | magnuse | wahanui: forgive everything |
| 09:59 | wahanui | magnuse: sorry... |
| 09:59 | magnuse | nice try |
| 10:00 | rangi | ibeardslee: option c is use the packages |
| 10:00 | ibeardslee | .. materal family motto is "I forget not" |
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| 10:00 | ibeardslee | rangi: using lucid |
| 10:00 | Cybermon | hi all. |
| 10:00 | rangi | yep |
| 10:01 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha | |
| 10:01 | Cybermon | how can i see that how many biblios indexed via zebra ? |
| 10:01 | * ibeardslee | was looking at the INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid |
| 10:01 | rangi | ibeardslee: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ages#Dependencies |
| 10:01 | magnuse | rangi, hdl: any thoughts on bug 5579? i might be logging off for the looong norwegian holiday soon... |
| 10:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 10:02 | rangi | i dont, but ill ask gmcharlt to look too |
| 10:02 | if you add one via the catalogue | |
| 10:02 | hdl | Cybermon: search for IR-Explain-1 on wiki.koha-community.org |
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| 10:02 | rangi | it works ok eh? |
| 10:03 | magnuse: and if you try via the stage marc records? | |
| 10:03 | magnuse: just trying to narrow it down to if its just bulkmarcimport that has teh issue | |
| 10:04 | hdl | Cybermon: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]erymodel-rpn.html |
| 10:04 | Cybermon | hdl: no result |
| 10:04 | hdl | i bet it was there on the old wiki |
| 10:04 | magnuse | rangi: didn't get that far, i'll try |
| 10:04 | hdl | http://librarypolice.com/wiki.[…]grammerguide.html |
| 10:05 | magnuse | well, i actually did try to add via the catalogue yesterday, without trouble |
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| 10:05 | cirbic | hello everybody |
| 10:05 | greetings from spain | |
| 10:05 | hdl | hi cirbic |
| 10:05 | ibeardslee | rangi: you'd accept that those ubuntu lucid repo are sane? |
| 10:05 | magnuse | hi cirbic |
| 10:06 | Cybermon | hdl: what does mean Z> ? |
| 10:06 | hdl | Cybermon: do this in a yaz-client console |
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| 10:06 | Cybermon | i see |
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| 10:08 | hdl | Cybermon: feel free to reopen a zebraHowto page on the wiki. |
| 10:08 | Cybermon | i see |
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| 10:09 | rangi | ibeardslee: i had it running on my workstation under lucid, seemed pretty solid |
| 10:10 | Cybermon | i think that i needed clarify that how many biblios indexed via zebra. because, some mongolian biblio records well working via search OPAC |
| 10:10 | rangi | but if you want to submit some patches, a git install is probably easiest :) |
| 10:10 | cirbic | one question about admin email address |
| 10:10 | I´ve added my email address | |
| 10:11 | and I activated the option: "send email to new patrons to their email address" | |
| 10:11 | I create a new patron | |
| 10:11 | and He received the mail | |
| 10:11 | all is ok | |
| 10:11 | but if a patron make a hold | |
| 10:11 | should be sent an email to the Koha admin? | |
| 10:11 | ibeardslee | rangi: ta, might just try the git install on my to start with |
| 10:11 | cirbic | should I receive an email advising me that patron want to make a hold? |
| 10:12 | ibeardslee | ... on my test/prod server to ... |
| 10:13 | hdl | cirbic: there has been a syspref on that EmailLibrarianWhenHoldPlaced iirc |
| 10:14 | cirbic | hdl: where is that option? |
| 10:14 | I´m trying to find it | |
| 10:16 | I found it on Circulation Preferences | |
| 10:16 | but it´s enabled | |
| 10:16 | and I dont recevie mail | |
| 10:16 | receive mail | |
| 10:18 | hdl | process_messagequeue.pl service will send the email |
| 10:18 | Should be queued now | |
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| 10:24 | cirbic | There must be an error somewhere because I still dont receive mail |
| 10:26 | hdl | check the messagequeue table to |
| 10:27 | cirbic | another question, when the patrons receive mail with patrons account details, there is a predefinied text: "Thank you, |
| 10:27 | Koha Administrator | |
| 10:27 | kohaadminyoursite.org |
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| 10:27 | It´s possible to change that? | |
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| 10:27 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:28 | kf | hi druthb :) |
| 10:29 | magnuse++ for good testing! | |
| 10:30 | hdl | kohaAdminEmailAdress system preference |
| 10:30 | cirbic: kohaAdminEmailAdress system preference | |
| 10:30 | kf | uhoh |
| 10:30 | ah, ignore me | |
| 10:31 | magnuse | thanks kf! time for a bit of holiday now. will be dropping by occasionally ;-) |
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| 10:31 | kf | oh |
| 10:32 | cirbic | hdl: where is that option? |
| 10:32 | hdl: in administration there is a field "KohaAdminEmailAddress" | |
| 10:33 | but here only is possible to write the email address | |
| 10:35 | kf | you can define the text under tools > notices |
| 10:35 | but you shoudl always test once you have edit changes a template and added new fields | |
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| 10:43 | Brooke_ | kia ora! |
| 10:43 | kf | kia ora Brooke :) |
| 10:44 | druthb | kia ora, Brooke! :D |
| 10:45 | * druthb | is *way* too chirpy for this hour of the day. |
| 10:45 | Brooke_ | 0/ |
| 10:45 | Have you considered a career in the Army? | |
| 10:45 | there is no such thing as too chirpy or too early there. | |
| 10:46 | druthb | I considered it, back-when, but they wouldn't have me now, I don't imagine. :) |
| 10:46 | Brooke_ | only cause ye say nice things about the Corps :P |
| 10:46 | * Brooke_ | ducks. |
| 10:46 | druthb | b'zacly! |
| 10:50 | Brooke_ | b'zacly? |
| 10:51 | huginn: b'zacly? | |
| 10:51 | huginn | Brooke_: I suck |
| 10:51 | Brooke_ | wahanui: b'zacly? |
| 10:51 | druthb | that's the way little kids often say "Exactly!" |
| 10:51 | Brooke_ | shhhh |
| 10:52 | don't tell the bots. | |
| 10:52 | druthb | lol |
| 10:52 | * Brooke_ | was wondering if Rangi or Wizzy had taught them Spudspeak... |
| 10:55 | Cybermon | my reindex looks good. but still not correct searching for mongolian. |
| 10:57 | AmitG | heya druthb, Cybermon |
| 10:58 | Cybermon | what should i do? |
| 10:59 | druthb | hi, Amit. :) |
| 10:59 | Cybermon | OPAC search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results. |
| 10:59 | * Brooke_ | suspects that T:T thang Cait is wrasslin' with. |
| 11:00 | Cybermon | Hi AmitG |
| 11:01 | kf | hm? |
| 11:01 | Cybermon: I really thing you need ICU to make that work | |
| 11:01 | s/thing/think | |
| 11:02 | Cybermon | hm...anyone can be try: http://koha.pl.ub.gov.mn |
| 11:03 | what can i do with ICU ? | |
| 11:05 | Brooke_ | it retrieves for Пу́шкин |
| 11:06 | now I have to say I'd rather see it sort better | |
| 11:06 | rangi knows the jiggerywhatser to flip | |
| 11:06 | to make sure the relevancy is ranked well | |
| 11:06 | which I think might be off. | |
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| 11:07 | Cybermon | you mean search relevancy ? |
| 11:09 | kf | Cybermon: it's a different way to index data with zebra |
| 11:09 | the normal way is limited when it comes to non-english characters | |
| 11:10 | Cybermon | i see. |
| 11:10 | kf | perhaps this can help you: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-di[…]em-p28106148.html |
| 11:10 | I have never configured it myself, but my coworker has for hebrew and that works fine | |
| 11:10 | Brooke_ | I do get better ranking on Бүндэн |
| 11:11 | and I'm also not familiar with your catalogue, plus it is an ungodly hour, and I'm knackered. | |
| 11:11 | kf | udn there is that: http://markmail.org/search/?q=[…]q4z+state:results |
| 11:11 | * Brooke_ | points out that her smart sister ought be doing this search, not her. |
| 11:11 | kf | Brooke_: do all your search results really match what you searched for? |
| 11:12 | Brooke_ | result 3 on that author really does, but I think it's gluing characters it oughtn't, and I think the shtuff you linked will help |
| 11:12 | cause I've noticed the behaviour you talk about | |
| 11:12 | kf | our experience was the result list contained everything with hebrew characters |
| 11:12 | Brooke_ | I just wish it would work out of the box if it detected a different encoding |
| 11:12 | kf | independent waht you searched for |
| 11:12 | it' can't detect that | |
| 11:12 | Brooke_ | why not |
| 11:12 | you have a MARC lang field. | |
| 11:13 | kf | because you will load data after you installed it |
| 11:13 | and you have to change files for icu to make it work | |
| 11:13 | Brooke_ | but presumably on install |
| 11:13 | kf | and there are different advantages and disadvantages to both solutions |
| 11:13 | Brooke_ | one selects UNIMARC |
| 11:13 | Cybermon | actually, we dont have lang field for MARC records. |
| 11:14 | kf | and it's not about encoding, but about how many different unicode characters you want to use I think |
| 11:15 | I am not totally sure about this | |
| 11:15 | Cybermon | actually biblios records of MARC have two kind type. English and Mongolian Unicode. |
| 11:15 | kf | a configuration option for icu during install would be nice |
| 11:16 | hm | |
| 11:16 | Brooke_ | if it autodraws on IP it would be nicer. |
| 11:16 | kf | IP is not relevant |
| 11:16 | it's your data | |
| 11:16 | Brooke_ | mebbe prompting instead of a long freggin drop down |
| 11:16 | Cybermon | okay. i will come back after 1 hour. sorry about it. |
| 11:16 | kf | Cybermon: no :) it's ok - perhaps you should ask hdl |
| 11:16 | * Brooke_ | is trying to save out of box work for Librarians since there are already way too many damn toggles. |
| 11:17 | Brooke_ | don't be sorry |
| 11:17 | this needs fixing | |
| 11:17 | kf | Brooke_: some things you have to decide - there are often different ways to do things |
| 11:18 | Brooke_ | I realise this |
| 11:18 | kf | Brooke_: I am a bit fan of free decisions and not systems making assumptions about what I want :) |
| 11:18 | Brooke_ | but how many articulations really are not that widely agreed upon across a Library class? |
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| 11:19 | kf | a lot |
| 11:19 | if I understand your question | |
| 11:19 | JesseM | Morning #Koha |
| 11:19 | Brooke_ | I'd wager way less than the current lots and lots of undefined options. |
| 11:19 | kf | undefined options? |
| 11:19 | Brooke_ | and I'm not saying make them go away forever, I'm saying optimise. |
| 11:19 | kf | I say have a good default value but switches |
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| 11:20 | kf | and good documentation of course |
| 11:20 | * Brooke_ | waves to nengard |
| 11:20 | kf | hi nengard :) |
| 11:20 | nengard | hello team |
| 11:22 | * Brooke_ | suspects that Koha could make a decent Boat team if given time... |
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| 11:52 | nengard | Brooke_ I'd be useless on a boat ... head over the side kind of useless :) |
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| 12:04 | chris_n | oleonard about? |
| 12:05 | * chris_n | puts on fresh coffee |
| 12:08 | gmcharlt | good day |
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| 12:13 | chris_n | @later tell oleonard I cannot seem to get the patch for 6114 to apply |
| 12:13 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:15 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6211] SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6211> | |
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| 12:18 | NateC | morning #koha! |
| 12:23 | oleonard | Hi NateC, #koha |
| 12:24 | NateC | Hiya oleonard |
| 12:25 | oleonard | chris_n: I'll take another look at that patch |
| 12:26 | kf | hi NateC :) |
| 12:26 | hi gmcharlt and oleonard :) | |
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| 12:33 | chris_n | oleonard: it was specifically marc_subfields_structure.tmpl that borked |
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| 13:01 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6213] Koha News template error <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6213> |
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| 13:14 | conan | hi all |
| 13:15 | kf | hi conan |
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| 13:49 | * conan | testing 3.04.00.000 |
| 13:51 | conan | does anyone have a checklist of stuff to test on a new version? |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Everything :) |
| 13:58 | conan | that's not a checklist :P |
| 14:01 | wizzyrea | conan: I do, or I have what we use anyway |
| 14:01 | 1s | |
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| 14:02 | wizzyrea | https://docs.google.com/docume[…]n&authkey=CLmb_lA |
| 14:03 | gmcharlt | NEKLS++ |
| 14:04 | oleonard | Useful for the wiki? |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | yea, it probably is |
| 14:08 | i will post it | |
| 14:09 | oleonard | You can make the arrangements? I hear it's tricky. |
| 14:09 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:09 | yes I think I can manage it >.> | |
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| 14:18 | wizzyrea | has anyone complained about 3 part patron name searching? |
| 14:18 | as an example, a patron with a first name of "leigh ann" and a surname of "hanson" | |
| 14:18 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6216] Search results pagination links broken <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6216> |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | searching for leigh hanson brings results |
| 14:18 | but leigh ann hanson does not | |
| 14:19 | * jcamins | never realized that name was two words. |
| 14:19 | oleonard | wizzyrea, that's an issue we've had in the past but I thought it was fixed (over a year ago at least) |
| 14:19 | * wizzyrea | doesn't question it anymore |
| 14:20 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I used to have a patron named Van Dyke that I could never look up |
| 14:20 | conan | wizzyrea++ |
| 14:20 | * jcamins | believes you that it's two words... he just never thought about it |
| 14:20 | conan | wizzyrea: thanks |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | yw :) |
| 14:20 | sekjal | wizzyrea: confirmed on current HEAD |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | kk I'll file a bug |
| 14:20 | ty sekjal | |
| 14:20 | conan | I've found 5 bugs and 1 possible enhancement already, and I'm still in the patrons page (!) |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | testing_plan++ |
| 14:20 | jcamins | conan++ |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | conan++ |
| 14:21 | sekjal | but I've got it working from searching with the checkout box |
| 14:21 | conan | wait, I've still haven't checked submitted them |
| 14:22 | sekjal | one of my recent projects is to unify the search logic between everywhere else in Koha, and the Patron search box in the members area |
| 14:22 | Search() is only used that one place, and it seems pretty much broken | |
| 14:23 | SearchMember() is the standard everywhere else | |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ |
| 14:23 | but there isn't a bug for that particular thing, right? | |
| 14:23 | (I admit I haven't looked yet) | |
| 14:23 | sekjal | there are several that will be solved once my work is done |
| 14:23 | but I don't think there is a central report yet, no | |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | kk |
| 14:24 | I'll add one | |
| 14:24 | sekjal | thanks! |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | imma assign it to YOU ;) |
| 14:24 | sekjal | hehe |
| 14:24 | okay | |
| 14:24 | I'll link up the other bug reports that should be solved by it | |
| 14:24 | gmcharlt | sekjal: hey, are there any bz components that you're willing to be default assignee for? |
| 14:25 | sekjal | gmcharlt: sure... but I couldn't list them off top of my head. will check |
| 14:26 | oleonard | I'd love to see an active developer listed as default for circulation |
| 14:26 | kf | who is listed? |
| 14:26 | never mind... I will look it up | |
| 14:27 | sekjal | gmcharlt: it's probably suicide, but I could take 'Hold requests' |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | I haven't filed a holds bug in a while (and I'm SOFLIPPINHAPPYABOUTIT) |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | sekjal: k - what email address do you use for BZ? |
| 14:28 | sekjal | ian.wallsbywatersolutions.com |
| 14:29 | gmcharlt | done |
| 14:29 | kf | sekjal++ :) |
| 14:29 | druthb | sekjal++ |
| 14:29 | sekjal | I'd do 'Self checkout' as well... I was in there pretty recently |
| 14:29 | gmcharlt | also done |
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| 14:31 | sekjal | I'm open to signing up for others, as well, if there are any that could use reassigning |
| 14:32 | kf | hm patrons and circulation perhaps |
| 14:32 | not saying you should take them all - but perhaps reassign? | |
| 14:33 | those are major modules and I think owen is right | |
| 14:33 | conan | wizzyrea: if you plan to port the checlist to the wiki, have in mind that maybe we should start with two lists: |
| 14:33 | sekjal | sure, I'd be willing to do that, so long as everyone's okay with me reassigning when I can't tackle something on my own |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | conan: I'm listening :) |
| 14:34 | conan | wizzyrea: one for testing a working library, an in production one |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | ah yea |
| 14:34 | conan | and one for testing a release |
| 14:34 | there are similarities | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | well new features get crammed down to the bottom of the list |
| 14:35 | conan | but there are also things you don't need to check when you are just checking the software still works |
| 14:35 | well, it's an idea | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | mostly because people were getting sidetracked by the new shinies, and things like "I can't place a hold" were getting missed |
| 14:36 | right, and when we are going over that list in our testing | |
| 14:36 | depending on the situation, some of those things get glossed over or cursory checks | |
| 14:36 | but I think, for the most part | |
| 14:36 | it's still good to at least have a look | |
| 14:37 | as an example, let's say you're updating a few DB revisions, and you don't know it but those revisions changed the circ rules | |
| 14:37 | suddenly, you don't have renewals | |
| 14:37 | you wouldn't have known that if you hadn't looked | |
| 14:38 | pastebot0 | "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "RFC: possible bugs to be filled on bugzilla" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21 |
| 14:39 | conan | those are the ones I've found so far |
| 14:39 | before filling a bug report, can someone take a look to see if something is not a bug | |
| 14:39 | or if something is already reported | |
| 14:39 | just skim it | |
| 14:40 | gmcharlt | conan: the second is part of expected behavior - if you fill in both first name and surname, the default opaclogin it creates should be first.last |
| 14:40 | oleonard | conan, that last ENH is an oft-requested feature |
| 14:40 | gmcharlt | #1, #3 are bugs |
| 14:40 | though #3 may be veering into an ENH | |
| 14:41 | #4 - bug | |
| 14:43 | kf | sekjal: sorry, I was agreeing with owen about having an active developer for them - didn't want to put them all on your shoulders :) |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | #5 - bug, I think - I don't see that the message prefs table was explicitly moved |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | oh yea, role based permissions are a very needed thing |
| 14:43 | conan | gmcharlt: but I disagree on #2, if first name is empty, then no dot should be added |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt: thanks | |
| 14:43 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yes, permissions_templates of some kind |
| 14:44 | gmcharlt | conan: #2 - reasonable, but would be a minor ENH then |
| 14:44 | sekjal | ones that can be assigned to patrons as well as staff |
| 14:44 | for things like CanPlaceOnShelfHolds, or CanOPACRenew (or any other action we'd like to control on a more user-centric basis) | |
| 14:45 | gmcharlt | #5 - yep, definitely a bug (assuming that the enhancedmessagingprefs syspref is turned on in your DB, of course) |
| 14:45 | conan | oleonard: is there a bug filled you remember? (don't search if you don't recall, I'll do it) |
| 14:46 | oleonard: about the ENH I mean | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | conan: Not that I know of |
| 14:46 | kf | conan: I put 4 on the template toolkit wiki page - but no bug was filed |
| 14:47 | conan | kf: no, I'm gonna fill them now |
| 14:47 | just wanted to check before | |
| 14:47 | * conan | filling bugs... |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | sekjal bug 6217 |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6217 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Searching for 3 part patron names brings no results |
| 14:48 | kf | conan: only confirming that there is no bug ;) |
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| 14:48 | kf | hi nengard |
| 14:48 | nengard | hiya - back from the vet - my girl has pancreatitis |
| 14:48 | (spell?) | |
| 14:48 | slef | hi all, hi nengard. nengard: I keep getting spam addressed to you in the salutation. Any idea why? |
| 14:49 | nengard | um |
| 14:49 | no clue | |
| 14:50 | slef | me either. It's "Dear Nicole C. Engard". hrm, wonder if it's off a Koha newsletter |
| 14:52 | nengard | maybe .... but that's coming from my email addres and has your name on it ... not the other way around |
| 14:52 | I don't know if that's better or worse than the spam I get addresses to 'dear sir' or 'my dear' | |
| 14:56 | library_systems_guy | hey guys :) |
| 14:57 | nengard | hiya library_systems_guy |
| 14:58 | library_systems_guy | happy to be back away from librarians nengard |
| 14:58 | gmcharlt | nengard: my dear sir? |
| 14:58 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:59 | library_systems_guy | oh nengard you are the documnetation lady lol, I have a question |
| 14:59 | documentation*** | |
| 14:59 | is there a wiki over using the bulk import script? | |
| 14:59 | nengard | um |
| 14:59 | library_systems_guy | i can't seem to find it |
| 14:59 | nengard | i'm thinking not |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: can you up the timeout on the wiki session? |
| 14:59 | pleasssse | |
| 14:59 | nengard | i'm thinking it's in the perl docs |
| 14:59 | * wizzyrea | begs |
| 15:00 | nengard | hang on |
| 15:00 | * kf | sends wizzyrea cookies |
| 15:00 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: bulkmarcimport.pl -h |
| 15:00 | I think. | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | i am always getting kicked out before I'm done >.< |
| 15:00 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: page edit timeout? |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | yes please |
| 15:00 | library_systems_guy | jcamins, with just the file name afterwards? |
| 15:00 | nengard | thanks jcamins |
| 15:01 | kf | library_systems_guy: the command will bring up the manual written in the perl file |
| 15:01 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: no, that's the help. |
| 15:01 | conan | gmcharlt: I've checked again #1, library doesn't get set if you login as 'kohaadmin', which I assumed is a superlibrarian, however searching for 'kohaadmin' in patrons doesn't show it, so maybe this is a feature? |
| 15:01 | library_systems_guy | doh |
| 15:01 | kf | a lit of the command line options |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | the simple answer is "GO FASTER!" |
| 15:01 | library_systems_guy | thanks jcamins |
| 15:02 | kf | conan: superlibrarian is one of the permissions |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | conan: there's also a special account involved |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Testing_Plan |
| 15:02 | jcamins | conan: how would Koha know what library to associate that account with? |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | now, you guys can go ahead and make that better ;) |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | logging in with the mysql database username and password is an automatic superlibrarian |
| 15:02 | tcohen | conan: kohaadmin is the db user |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | but one that does not correspond to a Koha patron record |
| 15:03 | jcamins | gmcharlt: did you know that you can actually assign that login to a staff member with superlibrarian privileges, and it will work? |
| 15:03 | conan | jcamins: that's what I'm telling, I noticed when I checked again, it's working for other patrons, so it's ok then, no bug, right? |
| 15:04 | jcamins | conan: that's correct. There's no way for Koha to know what to set the library to. |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins: dunno; my recommendation is to never actually use it except for the two cases when it's required |
| 15:04 | (a) initial setup | |
| 15:04 | (b) upgrades | |
| 15:04 | conan | jcamins: there is a staff member named 'Admin, Koha' but with no OPAC login set |
| 15:04 | jcamins | conan: right, that doesn't help. |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt: I was sharing a discovery that rather surprised me. ;) | |
| 15:05 | conan | yay! 1 bug less :P |
| 15:05 | and we solved it by only talking :P | |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt | jcamins: ah, sorry - reading comprehension FAIL |
| 15:06 | jcamins | That's okay. It was just trivia anyway. |
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| 15:07 | gmcharlt | jcamins: though important trivia - actually, it'd probably be best if we stopped letting the mysql credentials be a valid staff login |
| 15:08 | just inviting trouble | |
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| 15:08 | glernil | :) |
| 15:09 | jcamins | gmcharlt: true. |
| 15:09 | kf | time to leave - bbl :) |
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| 15:09 | jcamins | It took me a while to figure out why I was getting anomalous behavior with that client's database. |
| 15:10 | library_systems_guy | does anyone know what ruth's name is on here? |
| 15:10 | nengard | druthb |
| 15:10 | library_systems_guy | (sp) |
| 15:10 | thanks nengard | |
| 15:10 | nengard | np |
| 15:10 | library_systems_guy | does she get on a lot? |
| 15:10 | nengard | all the time |
| 15:10 | if she's not answering right now it's cause she's on a call or in a meeting | |
| 15:11 | library_systems_guy | ok ill see if i can catch her |
| 15:11 | druthb you here? | |
| 15:11 | :'( | |
| 15:13 | * druthb | is. |
| 15:14 | druthb | don' cry! :D |
| 15:14 | library_systems_guy | druthb, you're here :) |
| 15:14 | druthb | for some loosely-interpreted value of "here", yes. |
| 15:14 | library_systems_guy | i saw where i missed something from you yesterday |
| 15:15 | druthb | yep! |
| 15:15 | library_systems_guy | what was up? |
| 15:15 | * druthb | tries to remember... |
| 15:15 | library_systems_guy | its ok if you can't i have a question for you anyway |
| 15:15 | druthb | ask. |
| 15:16 | library_systems_guy | so nengard was raving about how you set up her laptop to run koha. I notieced when i was poking around that it was the dev install. So far I haven't been able to get koha running on dev just on standard |
| 15:16 | so I was wondering if you had any tips | |
| 15:17 | druthb | goodness. |
| 15:17 | library_systems_guy | sorry for the long explanation |
| 15:17 | druthb | I've done it so much, that's like asking "how do you make your heart beat." It Just Works... uhm. |
| 15:17 | library_systems_guy | hmm |
| 15:17 | druthb | what sorts of mischief are you running into? |
| 15:18 | library_systems_guy | well i had a specific error that rangi and I played around with for awhile |
| 15:18 | i was getting an unblessed reference | |
| 15:18 | in (of course) context.pm | |
| 15:19 | druthb | when do you get that? During make-test, or once it's breathing? |
| 15:20 | library_systems_guy | when im trying to bring it to life |
| 15:20 | through the web interface | |
| 15:20 | druthb | oh, running the web installer. hm. |
| 15:20 | * druthb | almost-never does that, and hasn't lately. |
| 15:20 | library_systems_guy | hmm |
| 15:20 | * library_systems_guy is a n00b :( | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | druthb: never run the web installer? |
| 15:21 | druthb | I have a gzipped empty_koha file...it's a couple of versions back, but you restore it, then run updatedatabase.pl, and start stuffing data into it. |
| 15:21 | library_systems_guy | empty_koha file? |
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| 15:22 | druthb | yah...it is a mysqldump of a koha install from--oh, two or three months ago; I update it periodically--that has no branches, no bibs/items/borrowers, no item types or patron categories. but the table structures are all there, and sysprefs and default stuff that I *do* want. |
| 15:23 | library_systems_guy | ahh |
| 15:23 | man 2 or 3 months in koha time is ages ago | |
| 15:24 | druthb | It's a little bit of a wild-and-wooly way to install things, but it does save me a bit of time each time. |
| 15:25 | yeah, that's why I update it periodically, to HEAD--or whatever I'm installing on at the moment, which might lag a bit behind, when HEAD is acting strange. | |
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| 15:25 | druthb | but an updatedatabase.pl run will bring it up to whatever-your-code is. |
| 15:25 | oleonard | library_systems_guy: I'm surprised you're having problems. Usually the only problems I run into are 1) dependencies 2) apache config or 3) zebra setup |
| 15:25 | * druthb | nods. |
| 15:26 | oleonard | But I don't do installs very often because I only do it with test instances |
| 15:26 | library_systems_guy | well my issue has been updating |
| 15:26 | druthb | I've not bumped into large problems with the web installer, either, when I have used it, other than occasional typos in the default .sql files. |
| 15:26 | library_systems_guy | maybe i just came in at a bad time in for head |
| 15:26 | err...master | |
| 15:28 | I'm going to try it again with dev, but I have a random question that you may be able to answer | |
| 15:28 | when you do an update from git | |
| 15:28 | and then do a rebase | |
| 15:28 | how do the new files get over to /root/koha-dev/? | |
| 15:29 | druthb | a make install, I should think, though I don't deal with standard installs much. |
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| 15:29 | Oak | \o |
| 15:30 | library_systems_guy | right but remaking would wipe your configuration files right? |
| 15:30 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: I generally copy the files I'm interested in over manually, but that's because I do strange things with my Zebra configs. |
| 15:30 | library_systems_guy | err...koha.conf? |
| 15:30 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: I have never needed to update that file. |
| 15:31 | druthb | Me either. |
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| 15:32 | library_systems_guy | well not update, but i have configs in there for ldap |
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| 15:32 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: so why change it? |
| 15:32 | library_systems_guy | but if i re-run make |
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| 15:32 | library_systems_guy | it would erase my changes right? |
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| 15:38 | chris_n | library_systems_guy: 'perldoc Makefile.PL' is your friend |
| 15:38 | see the section on upgrade installs | |
| 15:41 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166> |
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| 15:44 | oleonard | nengard: Bug 6219 works for me |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6219 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Lists this title is in not appearing |
| 15:45 | nengard | oh boy! |
| 15:45 | of course it does | |
| 15:45 | with XSLT on? | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | :( |
| 15:45 | Both. OPAC and staff client | |
| 15:45 | nengard | off ot check chome |
| 15:45 | chrome | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | FF3 and FF4 |
| 15:46 | nengard | okay i'm confused |
| 15:46 | this book i'm looking out is in the list ... but i don't see the 'lists this title...' | |
| 15:46 | let me open jing | |
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| 15:51 | nengard | oleonard - watch here: http://www.screencast.com/user[…]bfa2-79e48765d91f |
| 15:51 | what am i missing | |
| 15:52 | wait .... system preferences ... off to check | |
| 15:53 | nope .. the sys prefs for the urls are set | |
| 15:54 | but my link to 'open in the opac' is also missing | |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Yeah that's missing for me too |
| 15:58 | nengard: Aha | |
| 15:58 | It only shows the "lists this title..." link if the list is public | |
| 15:59 | nengard | web development is a public list |
| 15:59 | next .... ? | |
| 15:59 | oh wait!!! | |
| 15:59 | why isn't it public??? ... off to make it public | |
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| 16:01 | nengard | okay it's back!! :) thanks oleonard ... now the 'open in new window' link ... is that a bug or my fried brain? |
| 16:01 | oleonard | Looks like a bug to me |
| 16:01 | jcamins | nengard: did you set opacBaseURL? |
| 16:01 | nengard | yes |
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| 16:01 | nengard | checked that with the lists |
| 16:02 | oleonard | Strange, I have to take it back. I thought I had OpacBaseURL set and I didn't |
| 16:02 | Now that I have it set I see the link | |
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| 16:02 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 16:03 | druthb | hi, Brooke_! |
| 16:03 | hdl | sekjal: have you done something on members search ? have you seen the smart-rules enhancements ? |
| 16:04 | sekjal | hdl: working on members search, yes |
| 16:04 | have the smart-rules enhancements on a branch for testing | |
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| 16:06 | oleonard | nengard: Did you double check that OpacBaseURL is set? |
| 16:06 | nengard | oleonard - yes, and i reset it too |
| 16:06 | lists wouldnt' show if it wasn't set | |
| 16:06 | and now that the list is public it shows | |
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| 16:07 | nengard | oleonard - you're going to think i'm a pain .... |
| 16:07 | it's showing now that the ists are showing ... off to check a title that doesn't have a list | |
| 16:08 | k ignore me ... the darn thing works | |
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| 16:10 | hdl | sekjal: is there some RFCs for your member search ? will you dump the information in a single table ? |
| 16:11 | conan | is there a way to search patrons by category? |
| 16:11 | say that I want to find all patrons which are 'staff' for example | |
| 16:11 | how can I do that? | |
| 16:12 | sekjal | hdl: haven't written up my full bug report yet, no. was gathering all the existing bugs that it will solve, and getting ready to link them |
| 16:13 | basic plan is to unify patron search to always using SearchMember(), and teching that up so it can handle Extended Attributes and branchcode/categorycode limiters | |
| 16:13 | I'm also looking at making the borrower table fields that are searchable into a syspref | |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | :* |
| 16:14 | errrr ! | |
| 16:16 | cait | conan: go to patrons, click on the plus + |
| 16:18 | hdl | SearchMember() is fast. which is required for circulation. But if you want to search the whole table, or some fields, having a way to rewrite the SQL quite generically (with SQL::Abstract or even DBIx::Class would be much more handy). SQLHelper was meant to help transition.... But I think that it would have required much more feedback. Doing the work for every single table.... will soon be boring... (think of aqorders, budgets, ...) |
| 16:18 | Brooke_ | oleonard: off got that before but uhhh |
| 16:18 | didn't realise. | |
| 16:19 | * Brooke_ | is an olde timey X & O chick. |
| 16:21 | chris_n | http://imagebin.org/149292 <-- chinese char in a koha pdf label batch |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ YAY!! |
| 16:21 | cait | yay :) |
| 16:21 | chris_n++ | |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure how best to celebrate that, you worked so long and hard on it, it deserves fanfare! |
| 16:22 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
| 16:22 | chris_n | well... its still a ways from full implementation |
| 16:23 | but it is a step | |
| 16:23 | nengard | has anyone gotten results from the new holds statistics report? |
| 16:23 | Oak | Statistically speaking, you will die having missed almost everything. http://tinyurl.com/5t72ttd |
| 16:24 | sekjal | hdl: the problem I ran into was the implicit OR when using SQLHelper a data_array_ref |
| 16:25 | Brooke_ | chris_n++ |
| 16:26 | sekjal | hdl: I really want to pull the REGEX part out of SearchMember, if at all possible |
| 16:27 | perhaps doing a more liberal search, then culling the results with perl... | |
| 16:27 | hdl | would be far less efficient than mysql imho |
| 16:28 | sekjal | it would need to be tested and profiled thoroughly |
| 16:31 | hdl | Do you have unit tests of you would like to see implemented ? Maybe That could be implemented in SQLHelper. |
| 16:32 | sekjal | hdl: none in mind right now, but I'll keep that in mind for the 3.6 release cycle |
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| 16:34 | hdl | sekjal: you proposed to send some documentation of your methodology to test the code cycles... if you have time, i am interested in that. |
| 16:34 | Have to go now. | |
| 16:40 | conan | cait: tx |
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| 16:51 | Brooke_ | sekjal++ |
| 16:52 | oleonard | sub AddMember: $data{'password'} = '!' if (not $data{'password'} and $data{'userid'}); |
| 16:52 | Looks like a default password to me | |
| 16:53 | cait | !? |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl I think it would be a better idea to support DBIx::Class rather than SQLHelper, FWIW |
| 16:53 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:59 | oleonard | If I create a new patron, enter an opac login but not a password, I can log in as that patron by entering ! as the password. |
| 16:59 | That sounds like a huge security hole to me. | |
| 16:59 | cait | wizzyrea: about your answer to the mailing list: I wonder if their templates are not up to date |
| 17:00 | oleonard: it makes me want to hide under my desk | |
| 17:00 | * oleonard | goes to file a bug report |
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| 17:05 | nengard | oleonard that is so so so bad |
| 17:06 | * Brooke_ | would call that a blockah |
| 17:06 | nengard | i forget who told me there was no default password |
| 17:06 | glad you checked | |
| 17:06 | cait | and it's been there like forever probably |
| 17:06 | * cait | shudders |
| 17:08 | sekjal | git blame? |
| 17:08 | Brooke_ | /roll |
| 17:08 | oleonard | git show 87b792b2 |
| 17:12 | sekjal | well there we go |
| 17:12 | cait | that really is a while |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Bug 6224 |
| 17:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6224 blocker, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New patrons created with an OPAC login but no password are assigned a default password |
| 17:15 | conan | oleonard: I don't understand your reply to bug 6218, are you telling me where it is, or are you telling me that it's fixed? (I don't see it fixed, but then again, I have no perl vudu) |
| 17:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6218 minor, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, patron login gets an initial dot added when no first name |
| 17:16 | oleonard | conan: I was just pointing out where the operation happens for whoever sets out to fix it |
| 17:18 | conan | oleonard: ah, cool, I got the fix already |
| 17:19 | lc(($first)? $first.'.' : '' . $last); | |
| 17:19 | instead of lc("$firstname.$surname"); | |
| 17:20 | no, it doesn't work... yet | |
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| 17:23 | Brooke_ | 0/ |
| 17:23 | Oak | \0 Brooke_ |
| 17:24 | we don't see you much here. Why? | |
| 17:24 | * Brooke_ | is a tosser. |
| 17:25 | * Oak | thinks Brooke_ is funny |
| 17:25 | * Brooke_ | smiles. |
| 17:26 | * conan | will be back |
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| 17:52 | * Brooke_ | waves to collum |
| 17:52 | collum | hi Brooke_ |
| 17:54 | cait | hi collum |
| 17:55 | collum | hi cait :-) |
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| 17:59 | jcamins | Has anyone encountered problems with overdue notices not wrapping? |
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| 18:03 | cait | not wrapping? |
| 18:03 | jcamins | The lines. |
| 18:04 | cait | so the lines are cutoff? |
| 18:04 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 18:04 | Initially I thought it was a client issue, so I was going to provide a PDF, but it's the same problem in the PDF. | |
| 18:08 | cait | hm, no, I didn't have the problem |
| 18:08 | what did you use? <item> </item> or items.content? | |
| 18:08 | jcamins | items.content. |
| 18:09 | cait | hm |
| 18:09 | I use <item> most of the time | |
| 18:09 | because of the fines | |
| 18:10 | * Brooke_ | runs off to halfheartedly forage. |
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| 18:16 | jcamins | Holds to pull is the report that is regenerated every hour, right? |
| 18:17 | sekjal | Holds Queue is (typically) |
| 18:17 | jcamins | Oh, holds queue. |
| 18:17 | wahanui1 | holds queue is probably (typically) |
| 18:17 | sekjal | holds to pull is mostly deprecated |
| 18:17 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:18 | So instead of Holds to Pull, libraries should use the Holds Queue? | |
| 18:18 | cait | forget holds queue |
| 18:18 | wahanui1 | cait: I forgot holds queue |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | here's the rub on that |
| 18:18 | holds queue prefers to put items with patrons at their branch | |
| 18:19 | holds to pull shows every hold that is #1, and who has items to fill it | |
| 18:19 | it's useful data | |
| 18:19 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | I think they're both useful |
| 18:20 | for everyday usage, yes, I think libraries should use the Hold Queue | |
| 18:20 | jcamins | Right, but what I didn't understand was "prefers to put items with patrons at their branch." |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | say you have 5 items, and a hold for a patron at library A |
| 18:20 | jcamins | I got that there was a use for Holds to Pull, just not what it was. ;) |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | the hold queue report will prefer to put the item from library A on the hold queue for library A |
| 18:21 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | holds to pull is just a scatter shot |
| 18:21 | jcamins | I see. |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | here's a hold, and these people can fill it |
| 18:22 | holds queue also assigns based on the weights in the sysprefs | |
| 18:22 | i forget what the pref is called | |
| 18:22 | cait | can someone help me translate that into tt? |
| 18:22 | <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"local_currency\" --> | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | [% local_currency %] right? |
| 18:23 | cait | I don't know :) but will test it |
| 18:23 | it's in the pref files | |
| 18:23 | oh | |
| 18:24 | library_systems_guy | speaking of templating, what was that debian package again? |
| 18:25 | jcamins | libtemplate-perl |
| 18:25 | library_systems_guy | *gets out pen and paper |
| 18:25 | thanks jcamins | |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | template toolkit package? |
| 18:27 | templat toolkit package is libtemplate-perl | |
| 18:27 | library_systems_guy | yeah that one :) |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | template toolkit package? |
| 18:27 | come on wahanui! | |
| 18:27 | rangi | i have updated all the docs about that |
| 18:27 | and wizzy you typoed | |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | gr |
| 18:27 | wahanui: forget templat toolkit package | |
| 18:27 | wahanui1 | wizzyrea: I forgot templat toolkit package |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl |
| 18:28 | jcamins | Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl on Debian, or perl-Template-Toolkit on RedHat. |
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| 18:28 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:28 | template toolkit package/ | |
| 18:28 | ? | |
| 18:28 | * wizzyrea | gives up |
| 18:29 | jcamins | template toolkit package? |
| 18:29 | wahanui1 | template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl |
| 18:30 | jcamins | wahanui? |
| 18:30 | wahanui1 | somebody said wahanui was a bot |
| 18:30 | jcamins | wahanui1? |
| 18:30 | wahanui1 | jcamins? |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | Template toolkit package? |
| 18:30 | wahanui1 | Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | we should use yours jcamins |
| 18:31 | jcamins | wahanui1: forget template toolkit package |
| 18:31 | wahanui1 | jcamins: I forgot template toolkit package |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Template toolkit package is libtemplate-perl on Debian, or perl-Template-Toolkit on RedHat. But use Debian for Koha. |
| 18:32 | rangi | if someone has time, to check the install_misc files and make sure i didnt miss it anywhere |
| 18:32 | that would great | |
| 18:37 | adnc | rangi, is there an update for debian packaged koha 3.2? |
| 18:39 | library_systems_guy | nengard, I got the test server up and running from an update. Figured out what we were missing |
| 18:39 | cait | install misc? |
| 18:39 | rangi | adnc: for 3.2.7 yes |
| 18:40 | nengard | awesome library_systems_guy |
| 18:40 | what was it? | |
| 18:40 | rangi | cait: there are files under there that list the packages |
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| 18:40 | cait | ah |
| 18:40 | adnc | when 3.4 is released will it be available on the 22. also packaged? |
| 18:41 | rangi | no not on the 22nd |
| 18:41 | but shortly thereafter | |
| 18:41 | adnc | rangi, do you know which version did start including non public opac? |
| 18:42 | rangi | 3.4.0 will |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | it missed the 3.2 feature freeze, so 3.4 would be the first release to include it |
| 18:42 | the 3.2 releases are all bugfix only, no new features | |
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| 18:43 | rangi | if you want to get that now, and arent scared of running prerelease code |
| 18:43 | the squeeze-dev repo has packages built from master | |
| 18:43 | adnc | if you think 3.4 will be the next days release I would wait |
| 18:44 | jcamins | rangi: I guess the package names are going to have to change? |
| 18:44 | rangi | nope |
| 18:45 | jcamins | But there will be a Koha 3.2 package and a Koha 3.4 package, won't there? |
| 18:45 | rangi | havent decided |
| 18:45 | im fairly loathe to go that route | |
| 18:45 | id rather do what wordpress etc do | |
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| 18:46 | rangi | instead of what firefox does |
| 18:46 | adnc | if the name of the package is going to change than we would need to install a separate package |
| 18:46 | rangi | it makes about a zillion times harder to get into debian |
| 18:46 | * jcamins | doesn't know what either project does. |
| 18:47 | rangi | firefox does the 3.6 4.0 different packages |
| 18:47 | wordpress just tracks the latest stable | |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | wp makes packages of only the latest version, requires manual install for older versions. |
| 18:47 | grr lol | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | always 2sec to slow |
| 18:47 | too* | |
| 18:47 | rangi | hehe |
| 18:47 | you end up needing a crap load of debian maintainers | |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | (why in gods name you would ever want to run an old version of wordpress is totally beyond me though, so that makes complete sense) |
| 18:48 | rangi | so im thinkiing packages track latest stable, if you want to run old release |
| 18:48 | jcamins | That makes sense. |
| 18:48 | rangi | thats on you |
| 18:48 | jcamins | And certainly makes our job upgrading from 3.2 to 3.4 a lot easier. |
| 18:48 | rangi | what we might do is |
| 18:48 | make another repo | |
| 18:48 | squeeze-old | |
| 18:49 | and put the 3.2 packages in there | |
| 18:49 | then if you want to, you can change to that repo | |
| 18:49 | but i think squeeze should track latest stable | |
| 18:49 | (squeeze-old, squeeze and squeeze-dev) | |
| 18:50 | that doesnt require any package name changes, and keeps the stable repo tracking the latest stable | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Okay, that makes sense too. |
| 18:54 | rangi | oleonard++ |
| 18:56 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6221] Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6221> |
| 18:59 | oleonard | nengard: You could reproduce Bug 6222? |
| 18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6222 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron messaging preferences tables does not appear when modifying patron |
| 19:00 | rangi | oleonard: im 99% sure i fixed that a week or 2 ago |
| 19:00 | nengard | um ... that comment was supposed to go on another bug ... the one about the patron flags |
| 19:00 | if you can't tell i'm a bit scattered today - screwing a lot up :( | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | perhaps it's time for a rest |
| 19:01 | :) | |
| 19:02 | rangi | oleonard: can you reproduce it? |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | i can check that sec |
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| 19:02 | oleonard | Works for me |
| 19:03 | rangi | good so its not just me |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | it works for me too |
| 19:03 | rangi | if you can verify it works for you too wizzyrea then mrking it resolved worksforme with a note this is fixed in master |
| 19:03 | would be great | |
| 19:03 | nengard | wizzyrea it's time for a vacation ... but I can't take one of those yet |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | yepper |
| 19:03 | how about a nano-vacay, just a few hours :) | |
| 19:03 | adnc | I've updted to 3.2.7 but still I get these errors per mail when adding books: 21:05:01-20/04 zebraidx(10527) [warn] Index 'Record-control-number' not found in attset(s) |
| 19:04 | * chris_n | notices cross-posting is becoming a fad |
| 19:04 | nengard | can't do any vaca my baby girl needs me |
| 19:04 | rangi | chris_n: one we should kill |
| 19:04 | jcamins | adnc: you need to update your bib1.att. |
| 19:04 | adnc | bib1.att.? |
| 19:04 | jcamins, can you please tell me more | |
| 19:04 | rangi | adnc: i dont think that fix made it into 3.2.7 .. chris_n ? |
| 19:05 | sekjal | nano vacay gives me a new, empty file.... |
| 19:05 | jcamins | adnc: it's one of the configuration files for Zebra. |
| 19:05 | chris_n | which? |
| 19:05 | wahanui1 | which is not which |
| 19:05 | chris_n | forget which |
| 19:05 | wahanui1 | chris_n: I forgot which |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | sekjal: you should fill that with ideas for your mega vacation |
| 19:05 | oleonard | wahanui1: Which witch is which? |
| 19:05 | wahanui1 | oleonard: wish i knew |
| 19:05 | adnc | jcamins, which one? |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | oleonard: that made me lol. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | adnc: the file is bib1.att. |
| 19:06 | rangi | chris_n: the record-control-number one, cait .. you know more |
| 19:06 | adnc | and what do I have to change there |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | i love those moments when someone says something that is so unexpected you can't help but laugh. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att I think |
| 19:07 | chris_n | if it was pushed to master during the hack-fest, it probably did not make it in 3.2.7, but should be in 3.2.x branch now |
| 19:07 | rangi | chris_n: no its more a feature was half cherry-picked to 3.2.x at some point |
| 19:07 | jcamins | adnc: ah, it's probably not in 3.2.7. Never mind. |
| 19:07 | rangi | chris_n: so needs to be taken out |
| 19:07 | adnc | what exactly needs to be changed? |
| 19:07 | in that file | |
| 19:08 | rangi | adnc: cait knows, and she can tell you in german :) |
| 19:08 | adnc | ;) |
| 19:08 | cait, hallooo | |
| 19:08 | rangi | im hoping she will tell chris_n the file to fix in 3.2.x too, so it will be fixed for 3.2.8 |
| 19:09 | chris_n | have git, will revert... just point out which commit and away it goes ;-) |
| 19:09 | adnc | rangi, can't you tell me what to change |
| 19:09 | rangi | adnc: if i knew i would |
| 19:09 | * rangi | doesnt know everything |
| 19:09 | adnc | ;) |
| 19:10 | cait | yes? |
| 19:10 | * cait | looks up |
| 19:10 | cait | chris_n: let me take a look at the repo |
| 19:10 | * chris_n | is disillusioned |
| 19:11 | cait | it shouldn't be there at all - killing it should be easier than to make it work |
| 19:11 | chris_n | cait: which commit is it? |
| 19:12 | cait | bug 4506 |
| 19:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w |
| 19:12 | rangi | ok |
| 19:12 | i have to go feed kahu | |
| 19:12 | before he eats all the crackers for breakfast | |
| 19:12 | and laurel yells atme | |
| 19:12 | cait | hehe |
| 19:12 | * rangi | will bbiab |
| 19:12 | * oleonard | volunteers to send rangi some 'murican porridge if he needs some |
| 19:13 | adnc | ohh hallo cait |
| 19:13 | rangi | oleonard: tell ya what he loves |
| 19:13 | the quaker one | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
| 19:13 | rangi | with the dinosaur eggs |
| 19:13 | right now im really gone | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | dinosau... evil. |
| 19:13 | * wizzyrea | mutters about tiny sugar dinosaur eggs. |
| 19:13 | * oleonard | has to google that one |
| 19:13 | cait | hm seems it's record.abs |
| 19:14 | adnc | cait is it bug 4506 that fixes the zebraidx error? |
| 19:14 | cait | no |
| 19:14 | it introduced this new index into koha | |
| 19:14 | and part of it transferred into 3.2.x | |
| 19:14 | I have no idea when and why, trying to track that down now | |
| 19:14 | adnc | mhh |
| 19:15 | chris_n | cait: I don't see any commits in 3.2.x with that bug number... |
| 19:15 | cait | I didn#t see you push it |
| 19:15 | it must have crept in with another patch | |
| 19:15 | chris_n | hmmm |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | ok vote: in your opinion, what are the 5 best new features in koha 3.4? |
| 19:15 | cait | hard one! |
| 19:15 | for my libaries... the 4506 - but that doesn't apply worldwide I think :) | |
| 19:16 | adnc | cait, someone sait making changes to bib1.att helps fixing the zebraidx warnings |
| 19:16 | and you would know what to change | |
| 19:16 | cait | you can try adding the index (make it work) |
| 19:16 | or you can try to kill it | |
| 19:16 | adnc | kill it? |
| 19:16 | cait | delete it |
| 19:16 | adnc | that file? |
| 19:16 | cait | give me a few more minutes to find out |
| 19:16 | no | |
| 19:16 | adnc | ok |
| 19:16 | cait | only the lines referring to that index |
| 19:16 | let me investigate a bit more please | |
| 19:17 | chris_n | cait: which attr is it? |
| 19:18 | cait | chris_n: check here http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5cb9267b9f2809bd2 |
| 19:20 | chris_n: git show 6aa5368e | |
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| 19:22 | cait | chris_n: I think deleting those 2 lines referencing Record-control-number should fix it |
| 19:22 | chris_n | cait: so does that entire commit need to be reverted? or just those lins |
| 19:22 | k | |
| 19:22 | cait | only those lines |
| 19:23 | my patch for 3.4 will add them back | |
| 19:23 | adnc | cait, gibts eine Lösung? |
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| 19:24 | cait | chris_n: should be ok to delete those lines until 3.2.8? |
| 19:24 | adnc: in der datei record.abs müssen die beiden Zeilen mit Record-control-number gelöscht oder auskommentiert werden | |
| 19:24 | chris_n | only if you're not running over git |
| 19:24 | adnc | wo ist die datei |
| 19:24 | cait | ah |
| 19:24 | chris_n | otherwise merge conflicts could occur |
| 19:24 | cait | adnc: welche Art von Installation hast du gemacht? git? |
| 19:25 | oder packages? | |
| 19:25 | adnc | debian |
| 19:25 | packages | |
| 19:25 | wahanui1 | packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master |
| 19:25 | cait | chris_n: when using packages? |
| 19:25 | adnc | which one of these? |
| 19:25 | ./zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/authorities/record.abs | |
| 19:25 | ./zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | |
| 19:25 | ./zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/authorities/record.abs | |
| 19:25 | ./zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs | |
| 19:25 | chris_n | hmm... I"m guessing it should be ok |
| 19:25 | cait | marc21/biblios |
| 19:25 | adnc | biblios or authorities? |
| 19:26 | chris_n | fixed in the main repo for all of you hanging on with your fingernails... ;-) |
| 19:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Reverting pieces of enh bug 4506 which crept in <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec1b276a9c2784325> / Updating package lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35159cf81bf38a518> |
| 19:27 | adnc | melm 780$w Record-control-number |
| 19:27 | melm 785$w Record-control-number | |
| 19:27 | diese beiden habe ich ausommentiert | |
| 19:27 | cait | ja |
| 19:27 | jetzt sollte im Idealfall die fehlermeldung weg sein | |
| 19:28 | liegt dein koha im home verzeichnis vom Benutzer oder unter usr/share ? | |
| 19:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 20 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 19:30 | rhcl | cam mibbit |
| 19:32 | ping irc.oftc.net | |
| 19:32 | oops | |
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| 19:35 | * chris_n | cross posts a post about cross posting with the hope of reducing cross posting... |
| 19:37 | chris_n | wahanui1: cross posting is a bad habit |
| 19:37 | wahanui1 | OK, chris_n. |
| 19:37 | chris_n | cross posting |
| 19:37 | wahanui1 | cross posting is a bad habit |
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| 19:37 | cait | oh |
| 19:38 | * cait | waves francharb anyway |
| 19:46 | cait | wizzyrea: 6 hours good or bad? |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | it's how it is, apparently... when you have 300k-ish items, it takes a while. |
| 19:48 | cait | ok |
| 19:48 | we wondered how long it would take to index 12 million | |
| 19:48 | guesses are between 3 days and a week | |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | shudders |
| 19:48 | adnc | cait, das hat geholfen |
| 19:49 | thank you | |
| 19:49 | cait | kein problem :) |
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| 20:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.2.x build #20: SUCCESS in 38 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/20/ |
| 20:07 | * Chris Cormack: Updating package lists | |
| 20:07 | * Chris Nighswonger: Reverting pieces of enh bug 4506 which crept in | |
| 20:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w |
| 20:10 | rhcl | http://www.computerworld.com/s[…]s_later_this_year |
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| 20:16 | gmcharlt | since this has pissed me off sufficiently ... |
| 20:16 | people who sign off patches should keep the comment in this patch in mind, please: | |
| 20:16 | http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]3e8574172b737e3ac | |
| 20:17 | if the patch you're signing off is almost, but not quite entirely right | |
| 20:18 | sign off on it and send a followup | |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | or reject it and notify |
| 20:19 | (that's kind of a given I think :P) | |
| 20:20 | oleonard | Bye all |
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| 20:21 | wizzyrea | you know what would be cool |
| 20:21 | actually never mind. | |
| 20:21 | :P | |
| 20:21 | gmcharlt | I guess I will have to live my live sans coolness, then |
| 20:21 | :-P | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | I was going to say it would be cool if when editing items, you could pick one and duplicate off of it, like when you add new. |
| 20:22 | but computing barcodes in that situation might be hard-ish | |
| 20:22 | gmcharlt | well, not necessarily |
| 20:22 | can just autocreate | |
| 20:23 | or duplicate-and-prompt-for-just-the-new barcode | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | ^^ yes, that |
| 20:23 | dupe and prompt | |
| 20:24 | i'm imagining a cataloger with a sheet of barcodes picking an item she created yesterday that isn't in series with the sheet she's got in her hand | |
| 20:24 | to duplicate | |
| 20:24 | so dupe and prompt | |
| 20:42 | there are so many delightful things in koha these days. Thanks guys. | |
| 20:42 | rangi | just watch out for feature 32373 |
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| 20:45 | rangi | doug_dearden++ |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | hm, cool or sucky: put the person an item is on hold for in the list of checked in items |
| 20:47 | not the alert box, the persistent list of checked in items | |
| 20:48 | rangi | again, ... this time in english |
| 20:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37ec8ecbe63c2a333> |
| 20:48 | rangi | are you asking if that is a good idea? |
| 20:49 | i would think so | |
| 20:49 | BUT | |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | yes, one sec |
| 20:49 | rangi | the one thing i have learnt |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/VrT7E5NB |
| 20:50 | rangi | is that librarians dont actually look at the screen |
| 20:50 | they just return things as fast as humanly possible | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | that's true |
| 20:50 | rangi | which is why we needed the audio prompts |
| 20:50 | i guess as long as it binged | |
| 20:50 | they might look up | |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | I'm just stepping through a series of holds/transits etc, and I find myself wishing that the name hung around after I click confirm. |
| 20:51 | rangi | yeah, as long as it didnt slow it down |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | i wonder if others feel the same |
| 20:51 | rangi | i think it would be good |
| 20:51 | also | |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | right, if it slowed it down that's right out |
| 20:52 | rangi | showing the branch it was to be transfered too |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | good point |
| 20:52 | rangi | ive had librarians forget |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | on hold for X, send to 1 |
| 20:52 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | I could see that helping if you were going a mile a minute, and you missed something, you could look back and see it right there |
| 20:53 | instead of having to re-scan an item to check it's status | |
| 20:54 | (which causes other troubles, we've found) | |
| 20:54 | * wizzyrea | wonders idly if we filed a bug for that... goes to look |
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| 20:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6221, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7b6fadc566840c65> |
| 20:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 206 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:59 | * conan | issues /etc/init.d/conan restart |
| 21:00 | conan | what uses bugzilla as login? I've already reset my password but it seems I forgot the login :| |
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| 21:01 | rangi | email usually |
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| 21:02 | conan | I've tried with conan, conanlugmen and conanlugmen.org.ar, password has been just changed |
| 21:03 | crap, I'm out of try out | |
| 21:03 | The username or password you entered is not valid. If you do not enter the correct password after 2 more attempt(s), you will be locked out of this account for 30 minutes. | |
| 21:04 | ok, resetting it again... :( | |
| 21:09 | ok, back in track | |
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| 21:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6213, Koha News template error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]675d2166dceea2efb> / Fix for Bug 6216, Search results pagination links broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0e45b29343e6fb417> |
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| 21:24 | rangi | conan: remember to set the priority to patch-sent and then the patch status to needs signoff |
| 21:24 | (for 6221) | |
| 21:24 | and then it will show up in peoples reports of patches to sign off on | |
| 21:28 | gmcharlt | rangi: I've submitted the final two fixes for bug 5579 |
| 21:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 21:29 | rangi | yay!!! |
| 21:29 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 21:29 | magnuse++ | |
| 21:29 | and | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:29 | rangi | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:29 | space_librarian | :) |
| 21:29 | * wizzyrea | does a little dance |
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| 21:29 | * space_librarian | hands out beer to all |
| 21:30 | rangi | tcohen++ |
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| 21:30 | rangi | heh |
| 21:30 | 09:32 < rangi> tcohen++ | |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | yay beer! |
| 21:30 | rangi | 09:32 -!- tcohen [~tomas201-212-44-111.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #koha |
| 21:30 | its magic! | |
| 21:30 | tcohen | ? |
| 21:31 | space_librarian | summoning spells now, rangi? Nice. |
| 21:31 | rangi | for trying to sort out the windows info |
| 21:31 | tcohen | oh, i was worried about that |
| 21:31 | i think we'll solve it soon | |
| 21:31 | :-D | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/skbpuaqFhU |
| 21:31 | wonder what that's about | |
| 21:32 | i've only just started looking into it | |
| 21:32 | rangi | gmcharlt: was the data::dumper patch needed too ? |
| 21:32 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 21:32 | without it, stuff breaks | |
| 21:32 | rangi | did that get submitted? |
| 21:32 | gmcharlt | oops |
| 21:32 | not yet | |
| 21:32 | sec | |
| 21:32 | rangi | cool ta |
| 21:33 | gmcharlt | HEAD^^^, not HEAD^^ |
| 21:33 | rangi | :) |
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| 21:37 | gmcharlt | rangi: sent |
| 21:37 | rangi | thanks |
| 21:37 | will apply to the branch and push | |
| 21:38 | then will do a quick once over myself and merge | |
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| 21:39 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref | |
| 21:39 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6221, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group | |
| 21:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set |
| 21:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6221 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Modifying patron doesn't show "Patron Account Flags" group | |
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| 21:40 | conan | rangi: uh, I didn't read your previous commnet, I just set it to resolved |
| 21:40 | rangi | oh dont do that |
| 21:41 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow | |
| 21:41 | we are only at step 2 :) resolved is step 6 | |
| 21:42 | Waylon | greetings all. okay, XenServer... is available for free, my hosting provider can automatically install it for free. Our hardware is a 8gb 3.2 ghz quad core with HT, 2x500gb hdds. We may offer web space/koha SaaS to clients... should i go it bare metal, or use XenServer? |
| 21:42 | rangi | depends |
| 21:43 | how much separation do you want between clients? | |
| 21:43 | if they are fine sharing the same apache/mysql/etc | |
| 21:43 | then id go bare metal | |
| 21:43 | conan | rangi: ugh! |
| 21:43 | Waylon | intending to work out how to get nginx going. |
| 21:44 | conan | rangi: and also I was working on 6218, not 6221, haven't seen that they fixed it, will test now |
| 21:44 | rangi | conan: cool |
| 21:44 | do you want me to update 6221 for you? | |
| 21:44 | Waylon | I have no idea how to configure nginx for koha. |
| 21:45 | conan | rangi: no, I'll do it now, don't have to test it first, no? |
| 21:45 | rangi | exactly :) |
| 21:45 | thanks | |
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| 21:46 | conan | rangi: hum... wait a second, you set it to pushed, which is after needs signoff |
| 21:46 | rangi | 6218? |
| 21:47 | yes | |
| 21:47 | cait | hm |
| 21:47 | Waylon | what complicates things, is that our koha creates virtualhost config files for lots of universities .. like imam.opac.mandumah.com .. need those config files... or do i... |
| 21:47 | rangi | sorry 6221 |
| 21:47 | cait | I wonder if it should look like this: Sperre Vormerkfunktionen im OPAC für Benutzer mit mehr als ____ EUR Gebühren. |
| 21:47 | rangi | conan: i used my dictator powers to skip the signed off step on that patch, cos it was tiny |
| 21:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6218] patron login gets an initial dot added when no first name <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6218> |
| 21:47 | conan | rangi: we're mixing everything :P, ok, do I set to needs sign off 6221? |
| 21:48 | rangi | nope i have pushed that into master already |
| 21:48 | conan | rangi: ah... then I don't have to do anythin |
| 21:48 | g | |
| 21:48 | rangi | you can test master |
| 21:48 | conan | yes |
| 21:48 | rangi | and if it works |
| 21:48 | jcamins | Is there any way to git push all branches that *don't* conflict? |
| 21:48 | rangi | mark it resolved |
| 21:48 | conan | rangi: and you reopened 6218, right? |
| 21:48 | rangi | yup |
| 21:49 | conan | cool, I'll stop fiddling with buttons now then :) |
| 21:49 | Waylon | reason why we create config files, is we need koha to know what virtualhost was used to contact it. |
| 21:50 | is there a way with nginx, to let koha know the domain name it was contacted on, without a whole lot of config files? | |
| 21:50 | rangi | no |
| 21:51 | * wizzyrea | did not realize that Waylon was aka genji |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 21:51 | Waylon | yea.. hi. |
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| 21:51 | Waylon | 33rd coder of koha. |
| 21:52 | maybe 33.333333333 | |
| 21:52 | it was a minor patch.. | |
| 21:53 | rangi: so.. the only way to pass on what virtualhost was used, is to have a config for each virtualhost? | |
| 21:53 | rangi | a koha-conf.xml for each? |
| 21:53 | what config are you talking about | |
| 21:54 | cait | rangi: there are template expressions in the pref files to show the active currency, like: Prevent patrons from making holds on the OPAC if they owe more than ____ EUR in fines. |
| 21:54 | rangi | (youd need sep koha-conf.xml anyway, you can make them all use the same zebra and mysql databases) |
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| 21:54 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 21:55 | jransom | Brooke baby! |
| 21:55 | I just mistook conan for you :) | |
| 21:55 | Brooke_ | hehehe |
| 21:55 | Waylon | rangi: same koha-conf.xml.. but seperate virtualhosts. |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | hey jransom :) |
| 21:55 | Brooke_ | a justifiable error. |
| 21:55 | jransom | hey Liz |
| 21:55 | rangi | Waylon: you cant do that |
| 21:55 | jransom | hey everyone else |
| 21:55 | cait | rangi: send a patch now and mark it for 3.4.1? it will make those strings untranslated upon po file update |
| 21:55 | hi jransom | |
| 21:56 | rangi | Waylon: they cant all use the same zebra db, or mysqldb |
| 21:56 | jransom | smiles and waves at Caitlin |
| 21:56 | conan | is Brooke_ a big fellow with dark hair, blue eyes and a sword on his back? |
| 21:56 | rangi | unless they are just different views on the same site |
| 21:56 | * Brooke_ | is big with dark hair and an axe. |
| 21:56 | Brooke_ | though wider than tall. |
| 21:56 | conan | then you're a dwarf! |
| 21:56 | Waylon | rangi: works, with apache. got lots of virtualhosts, using same apache config, same koha xml config... just lots of virtualhost directives. |
| 21:57 | Brooke_ | that's what the mate that sold me the axe said. |
| 21:57 | good discount for a good dwarf. | |
| 21:57 | rangi | Waylon: but they are all the same koha righ |
| 21:57 | t | |
| 21:57 | ? | |
| 21:57 | cos if so, you could do it with one virtualhost and serveraliases | |
| 21:57 | jransom | big fella with dark hair and a sword is soooo close - i'm laughing here! |
| 21:57 | Waylon | rangi: yes. same koha. just using virtualhosts to convey what domain name was used to connect to koha. |
| 21:57 | hmm.. | |
| 21:58 | rangi | and some perl in the config |
| 21:58 | Waylon | rangi: nginx supports serveraliases? |
| 21:58 | rangi | yes |
| 21:58 | nginx doesnt do cgi tho | |
| 21:58 | you cant just run koha under nginx | |
| 21:58 | Waylon | rangi: fastcgi does... |
| 21:58 | rangi | yes |
| 21:59 | koha doesnt work under fastcgi without a chunk of work | |
| 21:59 | * rangi | doesnt have enough time to talk this through properly at the mo |
| 21:59 | rangi | ask me again next week |
| 21:59 | Waylon | rangi: nginx <-> fastcgi <-> koha? .... how have you done it? |
| 21:59 | rangi | ask me next week |
| 22:00 | Waylon | got a drupal under nginx howto... for fastcgi_php... |
| 22:06 | ooo! | |
| 22:06 | http://library.linode.com/web-[…]gi/debian-5-lenny | |
| 22:07 | jcamins | Good night, #koh1 |
| 22:07 | Let me try that again. | |
| 22:07 | rangi | Waylon: koha isnt fastcgi safe |
| 22:07 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
| 22:07 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
| 22:08 | Waylon | "not fastcgi safe" means? |
| 22:08 | rangi | persitent variables are not cleared |
| 22:08 | i really dont have time at the moment, but i dont want you to race off | |
| 22:08 | ask me again after the 3.4.0 release | |
| 22:08 | or ask hdl in the evening | |
| 22:08 | or sekjal | |
| 22:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6212 : Fix for tags label showing with no tags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2feb29c60e39be146> |
| 22:09 | * Brooke_ | thinks that hdl and sekjal are fine substitutes. |
| 22:10 | Waylon | Will do. |
| 22:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d3afe8c4b0579cc7b> |
| 22:12 | Waylon | ill do the setup of nginx and drupal for now. |
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| 22:14 | * Brooke_ | waves to druthb |
| 22:14 | * druthb | waves back |
| 22:15 | Brooke_ | oi, someone let in this ratbag from Horowhenua in your absence. |
| 22:15 | * space_librarian | eats ridiculous awesome carrot cake and waves at Brooke_ and druthb |
| 22:15 | Brooke_ | Better brought enough for EVERYONE. |
| 22:16 | * druthb | waves to space_librarian and jransom. |
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| 22:17 | * space_librarian | spies jransom and sends a piece of carrot cake up to Levin |
| 22:17 | gmcharlt | quick question/poll - what do people think of removing the NoZebra option during installation of 3.4.0 |
| 22:17 | rangi | +1 from me |
| 22:17 | druthb | +1 |
| 22:17 | Waylon | Hmmm... backing up and restoring a server would be faster using XenServer than tarring a entire hdd? |
| 22:17 | space_librarian | +1 |
| 22:17 | gmcharlt | wouldn't be a completely ripping out of 3.4.0 (yet), just not promoting it as a suported option |
| 22:18 | jransom | going dark now - work to do ! see you all |
| 22:18 | druthb | and if you change the syspref to switch to NoZebra, bring a page up that says, "now, why would you want to do that? Don't be silly." |
| 22:18 | space_librarian | druthb ++ |
| 22:18 | gmcharlt | druthb: heh. not sure that language is quite strong enough, though |
| 22:18 | Brooke_ | ^ |
| 22:19 | * druthb | was being kind. |
| 22:20 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 22:20 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1�C (3:21 PM PDT on April 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:20 | * druthb | renamed QueryFuzzy to QueryMurky, since she's editing sysprefs. |
| 22:20 | bg | @wunder puppy-ouside? |
| 22:20 | huginn | bg: Error: No such location could be found. |
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| 22:20 | cait | gmcharlt: +1 |
| 22:21 | gmcharlt | bug 6227 |
| 22:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6227 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 |
| 22:21 | gmcharlt | rangi: willing to take the string change hit for the second part of it? |
| 22:21 | rangi | yeah i can do that |
| 22:21 | gmcharlt | patch incoming in 5 |
| 22:21 | rangi | cool |
| 22:21 | * Brooke_ | gasps at gmcharlts powahs of deprecation. |
| 22:22 | Brooke_ | I knew there was a reason I didn't pick on you too much... |
| 22:22 | * rangi | has to fix bug 6214 and bug 6215 |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6214 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff client search results template error |
| 22:22 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6215 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Pagination links missing on lists pages | |
| 22:22 | rangi | then ill be looking at 5579 and 6227 |
| 22:22 | druthb | That's right...annoy gmcharlt, and he will deprecate you. Resistance is futile. |
| 22:23 | * cait | sends rangi more chocolate |
| 22:24 | rangi | you have magic powers |
| 22:24 | * space_librarian | chocolate magically appears on rangi's desk |
| 22:24 | rangi | space_librarian just came and gave me chocolate |
| 22:25 | druthb | ooo! send me some chocolate, cait, so space_librarian will appear on my doorstep. |
| 22:26 | cait | not sure that will work |
| 22:26 | it's rm magic | |
| 22:26 | * druthb | runs for RM next time. |
| 22:26 | cait | hehe |
| 22:26 | * space_librarian | ponders stealing something from the USS Enterprise to make it so. |
| 22:26 | cait | space_librarian++ |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #207: SUCCESS in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/207/ |
| 22:26 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6216, Search results pagination links broken | |
| 22:26 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6213, Koha News template error | |
| 22:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6216 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Search results pagination links broken |
| 22:26 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6213 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Koha News template error | |
| 22:26 | cait | I am talking about that for ages - we need a beamer |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 208 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:28 | space_librarian | cait: yes we do. |
| 22:28 | * cait | sends more chocolate to space_librarian |
| 22:29 | druthb | @karma space_librarian |
| 22:29 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "space_librarian" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 22:29 | druthb | Is that all? sheesh. |
| 22:29 | space_librarian++ | |
| 22:30 | space_librarian | I love you ladies. You're all awesome. :) |
| 22:31 | * space_librarian | may have already had too much chocolate today. And it's only 10:38am |
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| 22:31 | Brooke_ | space_librarian++ for lovin' the ladies. |
| 22:31 | * Brooke_ | formally appoints space_librarian wingman. |
| 22:31 | * space_librarian | is honoured and humbled. |
| 22:35 | gmcharlt | rangi: ok, patch for 6227 submitted |
| 22:36 | rangi | thank you |
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| 22:37 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ (nzebra) |
| 22:37 | Brooke_ | dumb question |
| 22:38 | the field name for MARC mapping -- does it have to be the actual proper field name, or can it be abbreviated at one's own risk? | |
| 22:39 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6227] deprecate NoZebra for 3.4.0 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6227> |
| 22:39 | eythian | Brooke_: I would expect it has to match the database field name, assuming I'm thinking of the same place you're meaning |
| 22:39 | Brooke_ | okie dokie |
| 22:39 | and | |
| 22:40 | Nicole says that future developments will include additional keyword assigned fields | |
| 22:40 | have such fields come into fruition? | |
| 22:40 | eythian | not that I'm aware, but I don't know for sure. |
| 22:42 | cait | I think not |
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| 22:51 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6228] Show active currency in system preferences <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6228> |
| 22:51 | cait | bye all - time to get some sleep here :) |
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| 23:19 | space_librarian | via @TheLib http://icanhascheezburger.com/[…]ave-some-overdue/ (apologies for the lolcats) |
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| 23:29 | Colin Campbell: Bug 6211: Set default correctly for SubscriptionHistory syspref | |
| 23:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, SubscriptionHistory doesn't have default value set |
| 23:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #208: SUCCESS in 1 h 12 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/208/ |
| 23:39 | Chris Cormack: Bug 6212 : Fix for tags label showing with no tags | |
| 23:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6212 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Small display problems in OPAC results |
| 23:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 209 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 23:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/enh/bug_5579' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d546f60cebfbd4b22> / Bug 6215 : Fixing a bug with virtuallists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb85db6bd9ccb9500> / bug 5579: tweaks to bulkmarcimport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e849240ad67131ead |
| 23:49 | gmcharlt | yay! |
| 23:52 | * rangi | edits the upgrade instructions to reflect that |
| 23:52 | rangi | well first i must get out of this seat and walk to get a coffee |
| 23:53 | before my arms fuse or something :) | |
| 23:53 | but after that, instructions, then 6227 | |
| 23:55 | space_librarian | rangi ++ |
| 23:55 | JesseM left #koha |
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