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| 00:43 | rangi | @later tell chris_n bug 5595 is causing the tests to fail for Members.pm |
| 00:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:43 | rangi | @later tell jcamins thanks |
| 00:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:01 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3013' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0603b9d87a062d9b> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_3013 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52d59d47dc196062c> / Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types <http://git.koha-community.org/g | |
| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 34 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 1 h ago) |
| 01:12 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Adding release dates and 2 new developers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc32fee44c58f7c78> |
| 01:23 | rangi | can anyone remember the url of perldoc gmcharlt was making automatically? |
| 01:23 | ahh perldoc | |
| 01:23 | duh | |
| 01:23 | http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ | |
| 01:37 | http://microblog.joshsternberg[…]the-march-11-2011 | |
| 01:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #34: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/34/ |
| 01:41 | Salvador Zaragoza Rubio: Bug 3013 - Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types | |
| 01:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types |
| 01:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 35 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago) |
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| 01:45 | rangi | hi JM_ |
| 01:46 | JM_ | Hi rangi |
| 01:49 | rangi | hows the weeking going? |
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| 02:15 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/35/ |
| 02:15 | Chris Cormack: Adding release dates and 2 new developers | |
| 02:15 | Starting build 36 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 2 h ago) | |
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| 02:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping the database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f2b90c1d9d812c84> / Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8740207c02e75818a> / Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc293c3aaffd93cf0 |
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| 02:17 | druthb | Good evening. |
| 02:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/36/ |
| 02:48 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5810: Subject tracings search complete subfields | |
| 02:48 | * Jane Wagner: Bug 5810 revision to fix author search link | |
| 02:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5810 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Subject tracings should search complete subfields |
| 02:48 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bumping the database version |
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| 06:01 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 06:04 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 120.61.18.127 pasted "Problems with koha-devel list server?" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 |
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| 06:49 | rangi | @later tell kmkale if you look at your post again, you should spot the problem right away (wrong address) |
| 06:49 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:10 | rangi | hmm i should not have pushed 5595 |
| 07:10 | guess i better fix it | |
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| 07:13 | kmkale | hiya rangi |
| 07:13 | hi druthb | |
| 07:13 | druthb | hi, kmkale! :) |
| 07:15 | kmkale | rangi: my bad. where did that address come from I wonder. Thought I had deleted it from address book long ago :( |
| 07:18 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 07:21 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
| 07:24 | * druthb | is enjoying an overnight train ride to Florida. I'm somewhere in South Carolina now, I think...and it's dark as the inside of a pile of coal outside my window. |
| 07:26 | rangi | heh, id imagine so |
| 07:28 | druthb | A conductor just passed through, waking folks up for the stop that's about 20 minutes away, which puts us on the money for time. With the Amtrak system's normally-dismal on-time rating, I'm feeling pretty lucky. :) |
| 07:28 | rangi | :) |
| 07:29 | druthb | hey, rangi: now that it has signoff, any chance at getting that malformed-JSON patch pushed thru? |
| 07:29 | kmkale | I am enjoying a rare quite sunday with my wife and son away on his first trek |
| 07:30 | druthb | sounds nice, kmkale! |
| 07:30 | kmkale | :) |
| 07:31 | rangi | i updated the bug |
| 07:31 | i want someone to confirm it works with 1.4.4, since owen couldnt recreate the bug on 1.4.4 | |
| 07:31 | i dont want the fix for 1.4.3 to break 1.4.4 since 1.4.4 is where we are trying to get to | |
| 07:32 | * druthb | nods. |
| 07:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5595' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ea1f619b75f545c0> / Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fbfecd59e6f06989> |
| 07:38 | rangi | hopefully that brings jenkins back to stable |
| 07:38 | !jenkins build Koha_master now | |
| 07:38 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
| 07:38 | Starting build 37 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 1 j 7 h ago) | |
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| 07:42 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 08:04 | rangi | !jenkins status |
| 08:04 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
| 08:04 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 4 (10 h ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/4/ | |
| 08:04 | Koha_master(BUILDING: 26 mn and counting): last build: 36 (5 h 49 mn ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/36/ | |
| 08:08 | rangi | !jenkins help |
| 08:08 | jenkins_koha | Available commands: |
| 08:08 | abort <job> - specify which job to abort | |
| 08:08 | alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases | |
| 08:08 | botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom | |
| 08:08 | build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period | |
| 08:08 | comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build | |
| 08:08 | h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | q - show the state of the build queue | |
| 08:08 | queue - show the state of the build queue | |
| 08:08 | s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period | |
| 08:08 | status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 08:08 | userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user | |
| 08:09 | rangi | !jenkins q |
| 08:09 | jenkins_koha | Build queue: |
| 08:09 | - Koha_master: Le build #37 est déjà en cours (fin prévue à: 2 mn 31 s) | |
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| 08:10 | mib_fyufj9 is now known as druthb1 | |
| 08:10 | rangi | !jenkins userstat rangi |
| 08:10 | jenkins_koha | Don't know a user named rangi |
| 08:11 | Yippie, build fixed! | |
| 08:11 | Project Koha_master build #37: FIXED in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/37/ | |
| 08:11 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or | |
| 08:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes |
| 08:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 38 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 08:11 | rangi | !jenkins userstat ranginui |
| 08:11 | jenkins_koha | ranginui: |
| 08:11 | Full name: Chris Cormack | |
| 08:11 | E-mail: chrisbigballofwax.co.nz |
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| 08:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #38: ABORTED in 4 mn 24 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/38/ |
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| 08:21 | rangi | train still on time? |
| 08:22 | druthb | so far. We should be somewhere in Georgia by now... |
| 08:34 | rangi | @later tell chris_n you will want to pull the latest commit for 5595 |
| 08:34 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:36 | rangi | want a giggle? |
| 08:37 | http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/27452.html | |
| 08:37 | druthb | always. |
| 08:38 | rangi | and that is why i love nz |
| 08:39 | druthb | awwww! |
| 08:39 | what a cute story! | |
| 08:42 | I've got a little patch for Bug 5857, just gotta get Ian or Nicole to take a quick lookie at it. Should be an easy one to sign off | |
| 08:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5857 enhancement, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, longoverdue.pl really needs a "quiet" mode. |
| 08:43 | rangi | cool |
| 08:45 | druthb | I'm somewhat leery of sending cron outputs to /dev/null explicitly--if it has troubles, I'd really like to know about it. |
| 08:45 | rangi | yep |
| 08:45 | quiet should be default for any cron job | |
| 08:46 | druthb | mhm. |
| 08:46 | rangi | you should have to turn on verbose |
| 08:46 | liw | arguably any errors should be written to stderr and exit code should be non-zero; if this is true, then redirecting stdout to /dev/null is ok |
| 08:47 | rangi | what he said :) |
| 08:47 | heya liw :) | |
| 08:47 | liw | unfortunately, when there's an error, you might want to see the stdout output as well |
| 08:48 | druthb | There's always that trust gap for me, between "should be" and "is." Unless I've eyeballed the code personally, I don't trust them to be equivalent. Paranoid, a little, maye. |
| 08:48 | s/maye/maybe/ | |
| 08:48 | hi, liw! ) | |
| 08:48 | :) | |
| 08:49 | liw | http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/moreutils/ has a tool called chronic that captures output and if there's an error, spews it out, which may be andy |
| 08:49 | also, may be handy | |
| 08:49 | hi everyone :) | |
| 08:49 | rangi | is there anything that joey does that isnt useful .. i think not :) |
| 08:53 | liw | indeed :) |
| 09:07 | rangi | hmm we dont have an index on the done column in zebraqueue? |
| 09:09 | just a compound key | |
| 09:10 | * rangi | will investigate that more |
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| 09:17 | druthb | This should be Kingstree SC, which would put us about 15 minutes off-sked. Not bad, over a ten-hour run, so far. |
| 09:18 | rangi | yep, thats not too bad |
| 09:20 | druthb | Charleston and Yemassee SC, then Savannah and Jessup GA, and then Jacksonville. If we can keep this tempo, we'll get there about...11 AM, more or less, about 35 or so minutes off-sked. |
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| 09:26 | druthb | @later tell cait the one day you're not here early in the morning, and I'm here.. :P See ya soon. |
| 09:26 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:27 | druthb | I'm gonna buzz off and take a snooze, maybe. see ya soon. |
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| 09:31 | cait | morning #koha |
| 09:32 | rangi | heh |
| 09:32 | you just missed ruth | |
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| 09:35 | cait | I know :( |
| 09:35 | she left me a message with huginn | |
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| 11:44 | jcamins_away is now known as jcamins | |
| 11:44 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 11:47 | cait | hi jcamins |
| 11:47 | do you have experience with the koha-common packages? | |
| 11:48 | jcamins | Not really, no. |
| 11:48 | Why? | |
| 11:48 | cait | i am stuck |
| 11:48 | it seems I am missing the mysql configuration file | |
| 11:48 | jcamins | Hm. That doesn't make sense. |
| 11:48 | cait | hm? |
| 11:49 | jcamins | It seems to me that the configuration file should be included. |
| 11:49 | cait | ah yes |
| 11:49 | did you get your subjects question solved? | |
| 11:50 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 11:50 | Well, kind of. | |
| 11:55 | cait | seems I am making some progress here |
| 11:55 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 12:04 | cait | hm |
| 12:04 | seems it ran | |
| 12:04 | but I have problems getting access to it | |
| 12:06 | jcamins | The password is random. |
| 12:12 | cait | hm no the url |
| 12:12 | and finding out where the files are | |
| 12:12 | hmpf | |
| 12:13 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 12:14 | I don't know about that. | |
| 12:15 | Where are patron messaging preferences stored? | |
| 12:16 | cait | that's difficult |
| 12:16 | the table structure is a bit insane | |
| 12:16 | it's at least 3 tables I think | |
| 12:16 | jcamins | !! |
| 12:16 | :( | |
| 12:16 | cait | I have no working koha on this laptop - so can't look it up for you now :( |
| 12:16 | that's why I am working with the packages, trying to set one up again | |
| 12:17 | look for borrower and message | |
| 12:17 | and transport | |
| 12:17 | someone was really serious about the relastional database model there | |
| 12:17 | :) | |
| 12:17 | jcamins | Well, relational is good. |
| 12:17 | :) | |
| 12:18 | Sometimes. | |
| 12:18 | cait | sometimes |
| 12:19 | would you perhaps be able to sign-off on a translation problem I have in this area? | |
| 12:19 | at the moment if someone installs koha with german sample file the messaging will be broken :( | |
| 12:19 | jcamins | Perhaps. |
| 12:19 | wahanui | perhaps is the version of koha |
| 12:19 | jcamins | wahanui: forget perhaps |
| 12:19 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot perhaps |
| 12:19 | cait | I know how to repair that in our installations, but it should not remain like that |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Will I be able to tell if your fix works? |
| 12:20 | cait | i think the problem is that most people have not setup email on their dev installaitons |
| 12:20 | * jcamins | hasn't either. |
| 12:20 | cait | bug 5646 |
| 12:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5646 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, translated message names on sql level break messaging |
| 12:21 | cait | ok |
| 12:21 | no problem :) | |
| 12:21 | your question only made me think about it | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | Wow. That's quite a long word. |
| 12:22 | "Fälligkeitsbenachrichtigung" | |
| 12:22 | cait | hehe |
| 12:22 | yeah | |
| 12:22 | but it's the right nam | |
| 12:22 | e | |
| 12:22 | benachrichtigung is the message, fälligkeit means due | |
| 12:23 | jcamins | I believe you. It's just very long. :) |
| 12:23 | cait | I even wrote a patch to make the field longer... only to find out it breaks everything |
| 12:23 | he code relies on it to be Item DUE | |
| 12:30 | grr | |
| 12:30 | and robin is asleep of course | |
| 12:38 | hm found the web installer | |
| 12:38 | but it's really slow | |
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| 14:02 | jcamins | My cat is having a wonderful time playing with all the new toys my wife got him. Including the *very loud* jingly ball. |
| 14:03 | cait | hehe |
| 14:04 | I am still fighting with the packages | |
| 14:06 | jcamins | :( |
| 14:07 | cait | it's ok |
| 14:07 | if something goes smoothly you don't learn much doing it | |
| 14:07 | right? | |
| 14:07 | but I am about to give up and make a normal installation | |
| 14:07 | and delay the packages for later, so I can work on some patches | |
| 14:10 | found more instructions :) | |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Right. |
| 14:18 | cait | *sighs* |
| 14:18 | ok, giving up | |
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| 14:31 | jcamins | @marc 588 |
| 14:31 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 588 |
| 14:32 | jcamins | @marc 751 |
| 14:32 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 751 |
| 14:32 | jcamins | @help marc |
| 14:32 | huginn | jcamins: (marc look up field or field/subfield combo in MARC docs) -- eg. @marc 245 or @marc 245 a |
| 14:32 | cait | @marc 001 |
| 14:32 | huginn | cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
| 14:34 | cait | jcamins: seems you pick the wrong fields :) |
| 14:34 | jcamins | cait: yeah, those are two that are missing from Koha. |
| 14:34 | @marc 542 | |
| 14:34 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 542 |
| 14:39 | jcamins | We're missing so many tags. :( |
| 14:47 | cait | koha or huginn? |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Koha. |
| 14:47 | 542, 545, 588, 751. | |
| 14:47 | All the RDA tags. | |
| 14:47 | cait | that was to be expected |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Yes, but it's still sad. |
| 14:49 | cait | yeah, but nothing will happen from being sad :) |
| 14:49 | jcamins | Alas, I have observed that. |
| 14:51 | cait | we need a time machine... to have more time on all those things |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:53 | Okay, looks like we're accurate at least up to 2006. | |
| 14:53 | Only up to 2006. | |
| 14:57 | cait | yep |
| 14:57 | is this about the time the files were created? | |
| 14:58 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 15:00 | Bug 5858 | |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags |
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| 15:07 | cait | it misses the fields we got in too |
| 15:08 | I have added some, like the $w | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Yeah, as I said, that bug was just for fields. |
| 15:08 | I guess I could note subfields as well. | |
| 15:08 | cait | hm right |
| 15:08 | are you going to add those? | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Should I? |
| 15:08 | cait | unfair question :) |
| 15:09 | I was wondering if we add the missing fields and subfields - only for new installatons? | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 15:09 | cait | probably the only save way to do it |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 15:09 | cait | have a list perhaps about newly added fields in the release notes would be good |
| 15:10 | jcamins | Okay, I'll add subfields. |
| 15:10 | cait | I want to help with that - but not sure how |
| 15:10 | and need a working koha first... | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | I'm not adding them right now. Just making the list. |
| 15:11 | Because I keep on getting questions, and I can never remember if Koha has a given field or not. | |
| 15:14 | cait | ah |
| 15:14 | ok | |
| 15:16 | git clone... | |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Did you add $w to everything that allows $w? |
| 15:17 | Not to 8xx, it looks like. | |
| 15:18 | No, you did. | |
| 15:18 | Never mind. | |
| 15:19 | cait | I hope I got them all |
| 15:19 | i think the 7xx already had those, only added the 8xx | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | Is that sufficiently horrifying for you? |
| 15:21 | :) | |
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| 15:22 | jcamins | 82 missing subfields, 16 missing fields. |
| 15:23 | cait | how did you find out so fast? |
| 15:23 | hdl | there is a script for that iirc. |
| 15:23 | which compares an iso2709 file with a given framework | |
| 15:24 | jcamins | cait: I went through the lists of changes. |
| 15:25 | cait | ok |
| 15:25 | hdl | I think i answered too quick sorry |
| 15:25 | back to week end. | |
| 15:27 | cait | hdl: enjoy your sunday :) |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Hm. I wonder how Evergreen does MARC21 support. |
| 15:34 | cait | hm no idea |
| 15:39 | jcamins | Evergreen is up to Update 11. |
| 15:40 | Ah, and this is the whole problem with the "or later" bit. | |
| 15:40 | Evergreen isn't. | |
| 15:42 | Or maybe it is. | |
| 15:42 | I don't know. | |
| 15:44 | No, it does say "or (at your option) any later version." | |
| 15:44 | Definitely. I can read. | |
| 15:45 | cait | ? |
| 15:46 | can't follow | |
| 15:46 | jcamins | That's probably a good thing. |
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| 15:46 | jcamins | If you did, it would probably mean you were either A) too sick to think straight, B) too tired to think straight, or C) incapable of thinking straight. ;) |
| 15:47 | cait | hm that's not good |
| 15:47 | which category do you see yourself in? | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | A? Yeah, A definitely sounds nicest. :) |
| 15:48 | cait | hm, I am for D) |
| 15:48 | jcamins | What's D? |
| 15:48 | cait | the one where you are a clever guy thinking loud about a complicated topic |
| 15:50 | jcamins | @later tell gmcharlt Is there a reason why we could not convert Evergreen's marcedit-tooltips.xml into SQL suitable for use with Koha and include that? After a great deal of confusion on my part, I've come to the conclusion that Evergreen seems to have the "or later" clause in its GPL 2 license. |
| 15:50 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:51 | jcamins | @later tell gmcharlt I notice that you're the one who made the changes to Evergreen. If there's someone else I should be asking, let me know... |
| 15:51 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:51 | jcamins | I hope huggin can handle multiple messages from one person to one other person. |
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| 15:52 | mib_pqg8o2 | @later tell jcamins This is the first message. |
| 15:52 | huginn | mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:52 | mib_pqg8o2 | @later tell jcamins This is the second message. |
| 15:52 | huginn | mib_pqg8o2: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Okay, I'm done testing now. It's safe to come out. :) |
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| 15:57 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 15:57 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Shouldn't Koha be able to convert records from MARC8 to UTF-8 on import? |
| 16:00 | cait | hm, yes? |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Does it? |
| 16:02 | * jcamins | doesn't know where to find a good MARC8 record with non-Roman scripts. |
| 16:04 | magnuse | jcamins: bulkmarcimport.pl has an option -s "Skip automatic conversion of MARC-8 to UTF-8. This option is provided for debugging." but i havn't actually checked what it does... http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html |
| 16:04 | cait | jcamins: is non-roman with marc-8 even possible? |
| 16:05 | jcamins | cait: yep. |
| 16:05 | It's... not nice. | |
| 16:06 | It looks a lot like this:$1!L$'8t'8t! 4(B | |
| 16:06 | magnuse | ouch |
| 16:06 | jcamins | Bingo! Cornell has it. |
| 16:07 | Yikes! That looks even worse. | |
| 16:07 | 导演: 田壮壮 | |
| 16:11 | cait | it looks a bit... ugly |
| 16:12 | jcamins | That's very diplomatic of you. :) |
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| 16:13 | * jcamins | curses catalogs that won't let you download the MARC. |
| 16:20 | magnuse | yeah, libraries are meant to be sharing stuff, aren't they? |
| 16:23 | cait | curses mysql authentication error |
| 16:24 | * jcamins | stops and stares in shock. |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Somewhere down the line, someone got confused and the "Character encoding" option in staging MARC records really *is* supposed to be the encoding. |
| 16:26 | cait | huh? |
| 16:26 | jcamins | You have the option to choose "MARC21" or "UNIMARC" for "character encoding" when importing records. |
| 16:26 | cait | yes |
| 16:26 | jcamins | I assumed the label was wrong, but now I thinking the choices are wrong. |
| 16:27 | cait | I don't think there is a way to do a conversion from marc21 to unimarc |
| 16:27 | I never touched the pull down and wondered why it's there | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | No, there certainly isn't. |
| 16:28 | But it should say "UTF-8" "MARC8" "ISO5469" etc. | |
| 16:31 | Woo-hoo! That worked! | |
| 16:32 | (hard-coding the encoding) | |
| 16:32 | cait | woohoo |
| 16:32 | so... can you come over now and solve my database problem? ;) | |
| 16:33 | jcamins | I've only identified my encoding problem, not actually fixed it. ;) |
| 16:33 | What's wrong? | |
| 16:33 | cait | having problems to access the database |
| 16:33 | not sure why | |
| 16:33 | will figure it out though | |
| 16:39 | *sighs* now I have made things worse | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | What's happened? |
| 16:44 | magnuse | good luck, cait |
| 16:44 | cait | ingore me, talking to myself |
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| 17:01 | cait | I think I found my mistake |
| 17:03 | jcamins | Oh? What is it? |
| 17:03 | cait | typo... |
| 17:04 | jcamins | That'll do it. :) |
| 17:04 | cait | frustrating |
| 17:05 | and the koha on the other laptop is frustrating slow, had hoped for better results here | |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Yeah, but now it's fixed. |
| 17:05 | cait | but no |
| 17:05 | it's slow too | |
| 17:07 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 17:07 | If you check out an older version, say, 3.2.2, will it be faster? | |
| 17:08 | cait | will try |
| 17:08 | there is an sql error in sysprefs: | |
| 17:08 | about the new log | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | That's okay. |
| 17:09 | cait | yeah, only mentioning it |
| 17:10 | loading a page - no matter which - takes a few secons | |
| 17:10 | checking out 3.2.x | |
| 17:11 | * jcamins | considers adding a prefix param to subfieldSelect. |
| 17:12 | cait | ? |
| 17:12 | and no change | |
| 17:12 | perhaps i will just have to live with that slowness | |
| 17:13 | but my dev install at work is not that slow :( | |
| 17:13 | * jcamins | has added a prefix param to subfieldSelect. |
| 17:13 | * cait | offers jcamins a cookie for a comment |
| 17:13 | jcamins | No, this won't work. |
| 17:13 | Argh! | |
| 17:14 | The best-laid plans of mice and men. | |
| 17:14 | cait | everything will be alright |
| 17:14 | * cait | gives you the cookie |
| 17:14 | jcamins | I know, this just requires some creativity. |
| 17:21 | cait | any idea how to make my koha faster? |
| 17:21 | jcamins | I don't know why it would've started being slower. :( |
| 17:21 | cait | me neither |
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| 17:37 | cait | hm |
| 17:38 | I changed some of the mysql settings... not it seems reasonable fast | |
| 17:38 | * cait | puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha |
| 17:49 | bg | heya cait |
| 17:49 | cait | hi bg |
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| 18:03 | jcamins | Argh! This thing is messing with my mind. |
| 18:03 | I just spent all this time debugging something that apparently worked fine. | |
| 18:03 | Well, I spent a minute on it, anyway. | |
| 18:08 | No, just kidding. | |
| 18:08 | It doesn't work. However, only in very limited circumstances. | |
| 18:09 | Alas, hdl isn't here anymore. | |
| 18:17 | Yay! I figured out how to force Zebra's tokenizer to do what I want. | |
| 18:19 | cait | :) |
| 18:20 | jcamins | Well, *that's* weird. |
| 18:21 | My data does not contain a single example of the subject heading I'm searching for. | |
| 18:21 | However, this search -- seemingly completely by coincidence -- is returning only the results I would want anyway. | |
| 18:21 | cait | hm |
| 18:22 | this patch chris_n said does not apply cleanly to 3.2.x applies for me... | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | Wait a minute. |
| 18:22 | The data is here. | |
| 18:23 | It's just not displaying. | |
| 18:23 | I'm confused. | |
| 18:23 | cait | me too |
| 18:33 | jcamins | @marc 650 p |
| 18:33 | huginn | jcamins: unknown field/subfield combination (650/p) |
| 18:52 | * jcamins | is no longer confused. |
| 18:52 | jcamins | The root problem is a confusion between 630 and 650. |
| 18:53 | cait | me neither - patch sent |
| 18:53 | jcamins | @marc 630 p |
| 18:53 | huginn | jcamins: Name of part/section of a work (Repeatable) |
| 18:53 | jcamins | :D |
| 19:03 | * jcamins | starts a third VM. |
| 19:06 | is fully cognizant that this might not be a good idea, but he needs them all. | |
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| 19:13 | jcamins | hdl++ |
| 19:13 | hdl | jcamins: ? |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Had you been around when I was trying to figure out how to change the behavior of Zebra's tokenizer, I'm sure you would have told me to use parentheses. :) |
| 19:15 | hdl | :) |
| 19:15 | what are you working on ? | |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Bug 4276. |
| 19:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms |
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| 19:21 | jcamins | hdl: are the UNIMARC default frameworks in Koha up to date? |
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| 19:24 | hdl | should be... But we updated many things in our master branch |
| 19:25 | jcamins | So it's just MARC21 that's way out of date? That's good. |
| 19:27 | hdl | is MARC21 framework sql default out of date ? |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:27 | 4 years. | |
| 19:49 | rangi: is there a reason we don't have an "add_syspref.pl" script for adding sysprefs to all the SQL files? | |
| 19:51 | cait | ? |
| 19:51 | jcamins | Well, in order to add a syspref, I am going to append the exact same line to a whole bunch of files. |
| 19:52 | It would be easy to have a script which took the syspref name, type, and description, then did it for me. | |
| 19:54 | cait | hm, not sure, but I think we don't have one because we used to translate them |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:55 | Don't we use pootle now? | |
| 19:55 | cait | not sure :) or nobody had this idea before :) |
| 19:55 | yes, we do. but the files are not the same all over still | |
| 19:56 | some settings can only be translated there, like borrowertitle | |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Hm. Well, I'll ask rangi. |
| 19:58 | cait | what do you think about bug 5848 |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5848 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail |
| 19:58 | cait | I have tested it and it works |
| 19:58 | only not sure if this change of display is ok for everybody | |
| 20:00 | jcamins | A screenshot would be nice. I'm not quite sure why it's needed. |
| 20:01 | cait++ | |
| 20:01 | cait | to make display more consistent |
| 20:01 | i kind of like it - screenshots attached to bug now :) | |
| 20:02 | jcamins | I think I like it too. |
| 20:02 | We should get nengard's opinion. | |
| 20:02 | cait | it also seems a bit cleaner to me |
| 20:02 | I will send the patch signed-off but add comment to bug | |
| 20:10 | rangi | jcamins: because the .sql files for sysprefs need to go away |
| 20:11 | because we translate them with the .pref fiels | |
| 20:11 | cait | that's a good reason too |
| 20:11 | hi rangi | |
| 20:11 | rangi | it is just confusing and double ups work |
| 20:12 | jcamins | rangi: ah. That makes sense. |
| 20:12 | rangi | jcamins: run perl xt/syspref.t |
| 20:12 | and it will tell you any missing ones | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, that's how I've been doing it. |
| 20:12 | rangi | what we need is someone to fix the installer |
| 20:12 | * jcamins | whistles and looks away. |
| 20:12 | rangi | to always use the english ones, no matter what language we are installing |
| 20:12 | and then they can go away | |
| 20:15 | cait | hm looking at 5072 now |
| 20:15 | I see that robin's patch includes a .gitignore file | |
| 20:15 | rangi | ahh, right fail qa that please |
| 20:15 | cait | is this a failed qa? or is there a good way I can get that file out of the patch for sign-off? |
| 20:15 | rangi | and ask him to fix it |
| 20:16 | cait | ok |
| 20:16 | jcamins | IndexData did not fix the & entity parsing in 2.0.45. |
| 20:17 | Wait... | |
| 20:17 | Actually, I have not managed to upgrade to 2.0.45, never mind. | |
| 20:17 | cait | chris: are you done with the cataloging branch? |
| 20:17 | rangi | is that 5575? |
| 20:17 | cait | I was searching for a fix I though might be in there |
| 20:17 | rangi | or the other one? |
| 20:17 | wahanui | the other one is old and wrong tho, so not having it, isnt a bad thing |
| 20:18 | * rangi | needs a bug number and i can tell you |
| 20:18 | jcamins | Bug 5575 is circ. |
| 20:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements |
| 20:18 | rangi | im not done with that |
| 20:18 | cait | hm, thought I had looked at one for cataloging earlier |
| 20:18 | give me a sec | |
| 20:18 | rangi | 5574? |
| 20:18 | bug 5574? | |
| 20:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements |
| 20:18 | rangi | im done with that |
| 20:19 | cait | ah no, it was this bug |
| 20:19 | ok | |
| 20:19 | hdl said it might include a fix to my problem with saving items.stocknumber | |
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| 20:21 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 20:21 | paul_p | hello #koha ! |
| 20:21 | * paul_p | writing "Hacker's corner week 11"... very long to write, many things last week ! |
| 20:22 | cait | hope we made some progess? :) |
| 20:25 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 20:25 | * rangi | hopes to finish 5575 this week |
| 20:26 | cait | bug 5575 |
| 20:26 | wahanui | i guess bug 5575 is circ. |
| 20:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements |
| 20:27 | paul_p | cait, yep, we made progress, but the easiest one : closing many bugs. The "pls signoff list" has been lowered only a little bit. |
| 20:27 | rangi | fredericd, cait and I had a good talk about bugs this weekend |
| 20:28 | paul_p | rangi, aprl 4-8 = 12 hackers outside from BibLibre have said they'll come. Means 20+ overall. |
| 20:28 | rangi | fredericd was writing up a nice lifecycle of a bug page |
| 20:28 | excellent, we should be able to get everything signed off :) | |
| 20:29 | paul_p | rangi, where has this be written ? |
| 20:29 | ok, seen on the wiki ;-) | |
| 20:29 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'on', paul_p |
| 20:30 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 20:31 | cait | *sighs* |
| 20:31 | don't understand it, it works in my dev installation here, but not at our production systems at work | |
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| 20:58 | cait | hm, the items table above the add item screen shows my stocknumber and 5 items, but in the items table those fields are empty? |
| 20:58 | but all, but the most recently added... it's confusing | |
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| 21:26 | cait1 | t |
| 21:35 | bug 5561 | |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5561 normal, P5, ---, nengard, NEW, Help on summary field in authority type editor |
| 21:35 | cait1 | oh wrong bug |
| 21:36 | bug 5861 | |
| 21:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5861 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, items.stocknumber not saved correctly |
| 21:37 | cait1 | rangi: sorry, wondering, you said you are done with the cataloging branch, right? bug 5574? |
| 21:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, 3.4 cataloguing improvements |
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| 22:02 | cait | paul_p: still around? |
| 22:06 | * jcamins | now understands why cait was having trouble. |
| 22:06 | cait | huh? |
| 22:06 | jcamins | Not what caused it, but why there were problems. |
| 22:06 | His installed-from-packages system doesn't work. | |
| 22:06 | cait | oh |
| 22:07 | I had a lot of trouble today, not sure what you were referencing to :) | |
| 22:07 | jcamins | Okay, git it is. |
| 22:07 | And dinner. | |
| 22:07 | Good night, #koha | |
| 22:07 | cait | hehe |
| 22:07 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
| 22:07 | cait | ended up using git too but still would like to know where the problem was |
| 22:07 | good night jcamins_away | |
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| 22:11 | jcamins_away | Okay, I got in, I just can't figure out how to reindex. |
| 22:11 | eythian | jcamins_away: with the packages? |
| 22:12 | cait | eythian: tried to use them too, but got stuck - I think it was an apache problem |
| 22:12 | eythian | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full *libraryname* |
| 22:12 | oh ah | |
| 22:12 | cait | seems jcamins had problems too |
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| 23:18 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 23:19 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2�C (4:26 PM PDT on March 13, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling). |
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