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| 00:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #31: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/31/ |
| 00:11 | Tomás Cohen Arazi: update INSTALL* to acknowledge the use of mod_deflate | |
| 00:12 | Starting build 32 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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| 00:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #32: UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/32/ |
| 00:45 | * Colin Campbell: bug_5064 Rework data retrieval in booksellers.pl | |
| 00:45 | * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 5595: (MT #5757)adding additional attributes support on patrons's search | |
| 00:45 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5846: fix detection of Javascript to compress by mod_gzip | |
| 00:45 | * Frédéric Demians: Bug 4072 Lost items aren't hidden on OPAC result page | |
| 00:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes |
| 00:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5846 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, mod_gzip can missing compressing Javascript files | |
| 00:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4072 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, hidelostitems hides all results when searching (nozebra) | |
| 00:50 | rangi | 5595 broke the tests |
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| 01:38 | wizzyrea is now known as Guest324 | |
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| 03:06 | * druthb | bows to kmkale, her hands before her palm-to-palm. |
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| 03:07 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:07 | druthb: why? | |
| 03:07 | the traditional Namaskar? | |
| 03:08 | druthb | yes. And also...I owe you a good 'un. You had a bug description I bumped into that is spot-on--I've been trying to describe it but couldn't find a coherent way to...now, if we can *solve* the darn thing.. |
| 03:09 | Bug 5847. | |
| 03:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5847 critical, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Manage Staged MARC Records stuck at 0% if isbn matching rule selected. |
| 03:09 | kmkale | The Namaskar is almost gone out of fashion now a days :( so its good |
| 03:09 | to have it. And I return the same to you with respect :) | |
| 03:09 | druthb | :) |
| 03:10 | I think it's a beautiful thing, myself. I'm just beginning to wrap my head around the depth of meaning there. | |
| 03:10 | kmkale | druthb: also if we can add to bulkmarcimport the facility to import items on isbn match, it will be great I think. |
| 03:13 | druthb | i use bulkmarcimport for my migrations work, but I'm not completely happy with it, for several reasons. Its' matching tools are way too limited, for one, so it's very easy to end up with duplicates and other problems. I have similar frustrations with the patron import tool--works fine for single-owner libraries, but in consortia with reciprocal borrower agreements...can get messy. |
| 03:14 | kmkale | yup |
| 03:15 | I tend to do a lot of data cleaning with google refine. You should see the pathetic state of catalouges I get for conversion in Granthalaya.org | |
| 03:16 | druthb | I'm sure. I've handled some pretty filthy ones, too. |
| 03:18 | * kmkale | is planning to send out Kohacon11 registrations open and call for papers today :) |
| 03:18 | druthb | awesome! |
| 03:19 | kmkale | so you can can start booking flights ;) |
| 03:19 | druthb | I'm hopin' Brendan sends me! Have to get on the hustle to get my passport and such. :) |
| 03:20 | kmkale | Also planning to go visiting hotels tomorrow to fill up accommodation information |
| 03:20 | druthb | kmkale++ |
| 03:20 | kmkale | its great fun :) |
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| 03:23 | druthb | yeah, I've enjoyed the conferences I've been involved with. |
| 03:24 | theartful | Hi there...I am an Information Studies student and have a broad question about Koha in relation to Evergreen. |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | shoot |
| 03:26 | theartful | As someone who is very familiar with Koha, what would you say are the top functionalities that Koha possesses...and Evergreen lacks? |
| 03:26 | eythian | seriously, what kind of ILS uses borrower card numbers as a primary key into all its user data. |
| 03:26 | * eythian | grumps about Liberty some more |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | oo wow that's a good question |
| 03:27 | theartful | (too broad?) |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt would probably be the best to answer that |
| 03:29 | theartful | I notice that Koha allows user contributions and web-based accoutrements... |
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| 03:30 | wizzyrea | yes, that's one place where koha excels: we have tagging, user reviews, user lists, and our OPAC is generally more patron friendly than EG's |
| 03:31 | and, ahem, a bit prettier ^.^ | |
| 03:31 | theartful | That was one of the major differences I noticed off the bat...but I'm looking for less obvious features |
| 03:31 | How do I get in touch with this mysterious gmcharlt? | |
| 03:31 | wizzyrea | he's about the channel quite often |
| 03:32 | just not tonight, as it's friday night :) | |
| 03:32 | theartful | makes sense |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | but if you are in the US, pop by almost any weekday, or even during the day on the weekend |
| 03:32 | and you might catch him | |
| 03:32 | druthb | theartful: If you'd like to PM me your email address, I will be seeing him in person on Sunday, and will gladly pass a message. |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | druthb: lucky! |
| 03:33 | * wizzyrea | has "seeing gmcharlt in person" envy |
| 03:33 | druthb | yes, I think so, too. He and his wife have invited me to their home for foodz. And kitteh-greetings. |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | yay kittehs! |
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| 03:49 | druthb | :) |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | right. I'm out of top gear. suggestions for my next "i have a gimp foot and want to do nothing but watch the telly" show? |
| 03:54 | eythian | wizzyrea: breaking bad, stargate atlantis, big bang theory, castle, flashpoint, firefly, being human. |
| 03:54 | wizzyrea | ooo I like your style |
| 03:54 | eythian | s/atlantis/universe/ |
| 03:55 | wizzyrea | Stargate Universe it is (1st two aren't on netflix instant) |
| 03:56 | thanks for the suggestions :) | |
| 03:56 | eythian | no problem :) |
| 03:57 | wizzyrea | stupid sprained ankle |
| 03:57 | eythian | :( |
| 03:57 | wizzyrea | and it's not even a good story: i was bringing in the groceries! |
| 03:58 | eythian | I heard you say "snowboarding down an untried slope." |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 03:58 | mhm | |
| 04:02 | druthb | "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that." |
| 04:13 | kmkale | hey people Kohacon 11 registrations are open http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]Conf/registration :) |
| 04:13 | just sent out a mail to the lists. next comes the call for papers :) | |
| 04:17 | eythian | I guess I need to plan a talk. |
| 04:27 | kmkale | eythian: that would be great :) |
| 04:27 | eythian | It also makes it easier for me to convince work to send me over :) |
| 04:33 | kmkale | druthb: ^^ |
| 04:33 | druthb | :) |
| 04:37 | kmkale | just sent the call for papers to the lists. http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]k11/schedConf/cfp :) |
| 04:40 | I would like some people to go through the website http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs and point out any difficulties, errors and ommissions | |
| 04:52 | need help here http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]chedConf/overview | |
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| 07:02 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 07:07 | rangi | evening |
| 07:07 | kmkale is now known as kmkale_ | |
| 07:07 | kmkale_ | hi rangi |
| 07:08 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 07:11 | eythian | rangi: back in Wellington now? |
| 07:12 | rangi | yep, need me to come in tomorrow? |
| 07:12 | eythian | rangi: don't think so, almost finished here now, it all went pretty smoothly. |
| 07:21 | rangi | sweet :) |
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| 07:41 | eythian | rangi: OK, all done I hope. Home time :) |
| 07:42 | rangi | sweet |
| 07:42 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:42 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:42 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:43 | I see you are still pushing patches :) | |
| 07:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5569: Corrections to addbiblio.tmpl to be able to delete repetable mandatory... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37454c7b6ab4c6110> |
| 07:46 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 07:46 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
| 07:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 33 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #31 8 h 15 mn ago) |
| 07:55 | wizzyrea left #koha | |
| 07:58 | rangi | yeah last one for today |
| 08:11 | cait | koha om tis laptop is still really slow :( |
| 08:12 | hm a little better perhaps than yesterday | |
| 08:13 | perhaps time to test the packages | |
| 08:15 | rangi | install the koha-common one |
| 08:17 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]velopment_Version | |
| 08:18 | cait | ok |
| 08:18 | can you give me a hint what I have to do to make it a dev koha? | |
| 08:19 | rangi | install the package |
| 08:19 | that will pull in all the dependencies | |
| 08:19 | then just install from git as usual | |
| 08:19 | (except you wont have to cpan or apt-get anything else on) | |
| 08:19 | OR | |
| 08:19 | cait | or? :) |
| 08:20 | rangi | you can do a koha-create something |
| 08:20 | then edit the /etc/koha/something/koha-conf.xml | |
| 08:20 | cait | hm but I need one for testing/writing patches |
| 08:20 | ah | |
| 08:20 | rangi | and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/something |
| 08:20 | to point to git | |
| 08:20 | cait | hm |
| 08:21 | rangi | either will work |
| 08:21 | cait | to the git clone folder I created before? |
| 08:21 | rangi | *nod* |
| 08:21 | cait | ok |
| 08:21 | will try :) | |
| 08:21 | I have virtualbox on the other machine, so I can do a snapshot :) | |
| 08:21 | rangi | cool :) |
| 08:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #33: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/33/ |
| 08:26 | Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5569: Corrections to addbiblio.tmpl to be able to delete repetable mandatory subfields | |
| 08:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5569 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, addbiblio fails while editing and deleting mandatory repeatable subfields |
| 08:50 | fredericd | rangi: who must close a bug? the one who open it, submit a patch, or sign it off? |
| 08:51 | rangi | the one who opened it ideally |
| 08:51 | next best would be someone else independent | |
| 08:51 | worst would be the person who signed off | |
| 08:52 | 2nd worst person who wrote the patch | |
| 08:52 | fredericd | yes, but ofter I open a bug and then I submit a patch. So generally I close it but I'm no so conforable with that... |
| 08:53 | cait | so start closing other bugs first perhaps? provide information how to test things...? |
| 08:54 | rangi | yep, because you are the one who wrote the patch, 2nd worst case |
| 08:54 | writing a 'How to test' | |
| 08:54 | on the bug, and then bugging people to test and close it for you | |
| 08:54 | eg | |
| 08:55 | How To Test: | |
| 08:55 | * create a new report in the Koha Admin interface, select 'Save' | |
| 08:55 | * see the link to run the report appears after saving; select it and confirm the report is run | |
| 08:56 | fredericd | Your 'How to test' is often in the bug description |
| 08:57 | the question is who will try to reproduce it after patch has been pushed and decide to close it | |
| 08:58 | rangi | its often not |
| 08:59 | very often the bug description is lacking a lot of information | |
| 09:00 | if you want to make it easier for people to test, then a how to test in that format with a step by step rule will make it a lot easier for someone else to test | |
| 09:01 | kmkale | bye all. have a nice weekend. |
| 09:01 | rangi | then building relationships with people to get them to test yours and you test theirs is a good way to do it also |
| 09:01 | fredericd | You know better know better than I |
| 09:02 | We should all try to describe accuratly bugs we fill with a 'how to reproduce this bug' section | |
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| 09:03 | rangi | yeah that would be excellent |
| 09:03 | maybe a rule we can try to enforce for 3.6 | |
| 09:03 | fredericd | I try to apply your suggestion about relationship but it take time |
| 09:04 | cait: Do you have any patch to test? :-) | |
| 09:04 | rangi | :) |
| 09:04 | she does actually | |
| 09:05 | or did this morning :) | |
| 09:07 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 | |
| 09:07 | huginn | 04Bug 5527: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table |
| 09:07 | rangi | its been signed off and pushed |
| 09:08 | fredericd | I'm reading 5838 Katrin patch |
| 09:08 | ok, so I could close it? (5527) | |
| 09:09 | rangi | yep |
| 09:09 | or at least resolved - fixed | |
| 09:09 | 5838 has been signed off, but i havent merged/pushed it yet | |
| 09:16 | cait | bug 5838 |
| 09:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5838 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Don't show sql statement on guided reports result page |
| 09:16 | cait | there is some disagreement about this one |
| 09:17 | I don't like to see the sql there, others do | |
| 09:17 | I think the print out shoudl not show it, so you can hang it up somewhere, and most librarians don't know about the sql behind it | |
| 09:17 | fredericd | Does it mean it would help if I test it and sign it off if I agree with your point of view? |
| 09:18 | Bug workflow is not so clear for me... | |
| 09:18 | A diagram show the different steps would help a lot | |
| 09:19 | cait | I think you could also note on the bug |
| 09:19 | I think the problem is we have no workflow for things like that - where people disagree | |
| 09:19 | fredericd | We don't knwo precisely who do what |
| 09:19 | cait | normally it would be: file a bug - patch is written and attached, but status changed to needs sign-off |
| 09:19 | fredericd | and who's who |
| 09:20 | cait | someone else (not the patch writer) tests it |
| 09:20 | marks failed qa or signed of and resends it to the list | |
| 09:20 | fredericd | There are: bug reporter, patch writer, QA, commenter, RM, signoffer, and now patch closer |
| 09:20 | cait | and if it's ok chris will probably push |
| 09:20 | hm yes | |
| 09:21 | fredericd | potentialy a lot of people with overlapping |
| 09:21 | rangi | qa for 3.4 is being done by the sign offer |
| 09:21 | for 3.6 id like a sign off, then signed off by qa | |
| 09:21 | before i look at it | |
| 09:22 | bug reporter and patch writer can be the same person | |
| 09:22 | cait | I like the idea - but I hope we find enough people |
| 09:22 | rangi | we have ian for qa |
| 09:22 | cait | at the moment we need more people testing, commenting, working on the bugs |
| 09:22 | fredericd | rangi: Do you know if there is somewhere a diagram for such a workflow with various people roles? |
| 09:22 | rangi | nope |
| 09:22 | fredericd | for other projects? |
| 09:23 | cait | hm, not sure, I think magnus did somethingin a presentation |
| 09:23 | rangi | could be, but we do things a little differently to other projects |
| 09:23 | the life cycle of a bug is fair simple | |
| 09:23 | bug is reported | |
| 09:23 | patch is sent | |
| 09:23 | patch is signed off | |
| 09:24 | patch is pushed | |
| 09:24 | bug is tested and marked resolved | |
| 09:24 | release happens | |
| 09:24 | bug is marked closed | |
| 09:24 | or | |
| 09:24 | patch is rejected | |
| 09:25 | obviously it is bad to have the patch writer, sign offer and bug resolver being the same person | |
| 09:25 | cait | hm, we need something on the wiki I think |
| 09:25 | rangi | im not sure we do |
| 09:25 | what we need is more people testing | |
| 09:25 | fredericd | A picture is worth a thousand words |
| 09:26 | but I understand! | |
| 09:26 | rangi | im not sure that the process is the problem |
| 09:26 | cait | I think people on the chat know - but what about new committers and people mainly lurking on the lists? |
| 09:26 | rangi | new committers are fine, they send a patch |
| 09:26 | they have the easy bit | |
| 09:26 | cait | hm, will be back in 10 min |
| 09:26 | rangi | ppl lurking on the list are hugely unlikely to get involved |
| 09:27 | i wish that wasnt the case, but i feel that the people who find their way onto irc are the ones we can depend on | |
| 09:27 | fredericd | When you say 'patch is pushed', you mean push in a separate branch? |
| 09:27 | rangi | that would be |
| 09:27 | pushed for qa | |
| 09:28 | fredericd | Doen't it happen before sign-off? |
| 09:28 | rangi | sometimes after too |
| 09:28 | when there is one that i want another sign off on | |
| 09:28 | if it is straigh patch pushed, it will be in master | |
| 09:29 | (i do push almost everything to its own branch and merge anyway, but that is so i can remove them if they prove to be broken) | |
| 09:31 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-worth-of-merges/ | |
| 09:31 | and it makes the git log more useful | |
| 09:31 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary | |
| 09:31 | as all those branch names are links | |
| 09:32 | cait | back |
| 09:33 | rangi | it is always worth remembering we are getting better all the time |
| 09:33 | cait | true :) |
| 09:33 | fredericd | I can testify it is the case! |
| 09:34 | Would you agree on this worflow (this is rewording of yours)? | |
| 09:34 | (1) A bug is submitted by the 'bug reporter'. It contains a description on how to reproduce it. This is required for testers or the person who will close the bug. | |
| 09:34 | (2) A patch is submitted by the 'patch writer'. | |
| 09:34 | (3) (optional) RM pushed it as a QA branch | |
| 09:34 | (4) The patch is tested and sign-off by the 'patch signoffer' | |
| 09:34 | (5) The patch is pushed by RM in HEAD | |
| 09:34 | (6) The patch is closed by the 'patch closer' | |
| 09:34 | Patch closer, signoffer, writer, and bug reporter must be different persons. | |
| 09:35 | cait | hm |
| 09:35 | rangi | (6) marked resolved |
| 09:35 | cait | writer and bug reporter might get difficult |
| 09:35 | rangi | (7) the bug is closed when a release is made containing that patch |
| 09:35 | cait | not sure it's necessary |
| 09:35 | if you find a bug and can fix it - it's a good thing | |
| 09:35 | rangi | yeah i think reporter and writer could be the same |
| 09:36 | (i often do that when im reporting a bug that a client has reported) | |
| 09:36 | cait | same here |
| 09:36 | I think we all do | |
| 09:36 | rangi | ideally the client would report it .. maybe eventually :-) |
| 09:37 | cait | your clients speak english |
| 09:37 | fredericd | very unlikely |
| 09:37 | rangi | (well i have a couple who do :)) |
| 09:38 | cait | I agree with fredericd - some can, but others not |
| 09:38 | rangi | but yes for the majority very unlikely |
| 09:43 | fredericd | There are several pages on the wiki about bugs/patches/git... |
| 09:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eptance/Rejection | |
| 09:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches | |
| 09:43 | rangi | yep |
| 09:44 | fredericd | Shouldn't we try to have a central page aggragating all this info? |
| 09:44 | cait | + |
| 09:44 | 1 | |
| 09:45 | fredericd | 'Bug/Patch Workflow' |
| 09:46 | rangi | collecting them all would be good |
| 09:46 | cait | have te workflow on a new page |
| 09:46 | link to pages from write patch and sign-off | |
| 09:48 | fredericd | cait: I'm not at all for spreading info on various pages, but I know it's generally not a shared point of view |
| 09:48 | cait | if someone creates the page with the right categories I can try to work on that too - I am not very familiar with mediawiki yet |
| 09:49 | fredericd: I think as the other pages already exist it might be better | |
| 09:49 | and the page might get very long and not give a good overview of the process if we put it all on one page | |
| 09:50 | fredericd | This is just a matter of organizing a document in sections, and to begin with a table of content |
| 09:51 | cait | hm, I like that a tester can print out only the part about signing-off |
| 09:51 | but that can probably be solved on the wiki too | |
| 09:56 | rangi: for installing the packages - stable or dev version? | |
| 09:56 | going to replace it with git clone later - so it doesn't matter? | |
| 09:57 | rangi | go for dev |
| 09:57 | cait | ok, thx |
| 09:58 | rangi | people still print things out? :-) |
| 09:58 | cait | I know some do |
| 09:59 | sighs | |
| 09:59 | fredericd | rangi: yes, people even do print from their iPhone |
| 09:59 | cait | I have problems with my arrow keys in vi |
| 09:59 | and I know I had a solution for that before but can't find it | |
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| 10:00 | rangi | i have a solution |
| 10:00 | emacs | |
| 10:01 | cait | no, I will not start with another editor today |
| 10:01 | you want me to work on koha, right? ;) | |
| 10:04 | rangi | :) |
| 10:06 | cait | found a solution :P |
| 10:09 | sudo apt-get install vim | |
| 10:14 | fredericd | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 10:23 | cait | fredericd++ |
| 10:35 | fredericd | I can't add a wiki page to a category |
| 10:35 | permission issue? | |
| 10:54 | cait | not usre, never tried it |
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| 19:01 | huginn | jcamins: Contains information about processing, reference, and preservation actions. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,h,i,j,k,l,n,o,u,x,z,2,3,5,6,8] |
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| 19:33 | jcamins | @later tell rangi I tested jwagner's revision to bug 5810. It worked properly so I signed off on it, and resent the patch to the list. |
| 19:33 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:38 | jcamins | @later tell nengard Could you please close bug 5723? |
| 19:38 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:46 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:46 | jcamins | hi cait. |
| 19:47 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
| 19:59 | * jcamins | gives cait a cinnamon roll. |
| 19:59 | cait | mmh thx :) |
| 20:00 | jcamins | They came out quite good, I think. |
| 20:01 | cait | I lost the log with your description of the recipe :( |
| 20:03 | jcamins | They're very easy: Combine 200 g milk (scalded and cooled), 25 g fresh yeast, 250 g bread flour; let stand until doubled; cream together 200 g butter, 100 g sugar, 6 g salt, 125 g eggs (~2 large eggs); mix together the sponge and butter/sugar/salt/eggs; add 250 g flour. |
| 20:03 | Bake at 190 deg C. | |
| 20:04 | The instructions say to mix for three minutes after adding the flour at the end, but I found it takes a lot longer than that when doing it by hand. | |
| 20:05 | To make cinnamon rolls, I roll it out thin, and sprinkle cinnamon & sugar on it, then roll it up into a log, and cut the log into 4-5 cm sections and bake with the swirly sides facing up. | |
| 20:05 | Wait, 175 deg C. | |
| 20:05 | Not 190. | |
| 20:07 | cait | ok |
| 20:07 | I only don't understand the part with the sponge? | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | That's what you call the milk/yeast/bread flour part. |
| 20:08 | It's like "levain". :) | |
| 20:08 | Kind of. | |
| 20:08 | cait | levain? |
| 20:08 | you speak in riddles tonight :) | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | That's the French word. |
| 20:09 | I don't know the German. | |
| 20:10 | Sauerteig? | |
| 20:10 | cait | not it's in koha logs - can't loose it now :) |
| 20:10 | jcamins | No, that's only for sour starters. |
| 20:10 | cait | yep |
| 20:10 | vorteig perhaps | |
| 20:11 | * cait | shares a piece of engadiner nusstorte with you |
| 20:11 | * jcamins | looks up what that is. |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 20:13 | cait | caramel and walnuts |
| 20:13 | yummy :) | |
| 20:14 | jcamins | What do you think of bug 5276? |
| 20:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5276 enhancement, P5, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, subscription info shouldn't be required |
| 20:14 | jcamins | No. |
| 20:14 | What do you think of bug 4276? | |
| 20:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms |
| 20:14 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 20:14 | cait | uh, let me check |
| 20:14 | but we have different structures | |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Oh right. You have working authorities. |
| 20:15 | * jcamins | is jealous. |
| 20:15 | cait | hehe |
| 20:15 | and different rules | |
| 20:15 | rswk | |
| 20:15 | regel zur schlagwortkatalogisierung | |
| 20:15 | although we have some loc subjects too afaik | |
| 20:16 | we have subject chains - but they are built from single subjects | |
| 20:16 | at the moment we split them up into single subjects and that works quite good with koha - and have an authority for each of course | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | I guess you probably don't have an opinion about whether the chains need to work the way they do in Normal mode, or whether Owen's fix is sufficient. |
| 20:21 | cait | it's hard to tell for me |
| 20:21 | I don't know the structure and subfields of those subjects | |
| 20:23 | http://www.d-nb.de/standardisi[…]wk_in_marc_21.pdf | |
| 20:25 | hm | |
| 20:25 | jcamins: I am not sure what the patch changes, but I think as we are only using $a most of the time it would not change much for rswk subjects? | |
| 20:25 | jcamins | I wonder if there's an easy way to do the chaining with jQuery. |
| 20:26 | cait: yeah, it wouldn't make any difference for you. | |
| 20:26 | cait | what are you trying to do ? search the subfields in one string? |
| 20:27 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 20:29 | cait | hm |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | oh my gracious... I missed discussion of cinnamon rolls |
| 20:30 | * wizzyrea | drools all over her computer |
| 20:31 | * jcamins | offers one to wizzyrea. |
| 20:32 | just realized why he has so little free diskspace. | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | He has his wife's entire computer backed up on his laptop. |
| 20:32 | Actually, every computer his wife has ever owned. | |
| 20:34 | cait | hehe |
| 20:35 | sorry to be of not much help with the subjects | |
| 20:35 | jcamins | No worries. |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea: thoughts on bug 4276? | |
| 20:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Is owen's patch sufficient, or do we need the fancy linking that normal mode has? |
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| 20:37 | wizzyrea | oh wow |
| 20:39 | jcamins | Oh wow? |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | I'm thinking about this |
| 20:39 | bug | |
| 20:39 | * wizzyrea | has never had anyone comment on the subject search links |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Really? Huh. |
| 20:41 | * jcamins | has gotten roughly a gazillion complaints about this. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | about how they aren't chained? |
| 20:42 | or just how they don't work? | |
| 20:42 | jcamins | How they don't work. |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | this bug is referring to where subjects are say "Vampires -- Juvenile Fiction" |
| 20:45 | right? | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:45 | The search would only be on "Vampires." | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | not if you click the 2nd term |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Ah, that's in normal mode. |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 20:45 | * wizzyrea | doublechecks her sysprefs |
| 20:46 | jcamins | So what I'm hearing from you is "yes, we're attached to the behavior in normal mode." |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure about that no |
| 20:46 | jcamins | ("we" being the general "we") |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | Yes, I think it's a better behavior |
| 20:47 | normal mode | |
| 20:48 | what I especially like, I think | |
| 20:48 | well hm | |
| 20:48 | in XSLT | |
| 20:48 | the way the links are suggest that you're chaining | |
| 20:48 | when you're not | |
| 20:49 | and it's a little misleading, even in normal mode | |
| 20:49 | because they're split | |
| 20:49 | and you wouldn't know that you were chaining | |
| 20:49 | so say you have vampires -- Juvenile Fiction | |
| 20:49 | clicking vampires gives you a subject search for vampires | |
| 20:49 | but weirdly | |
| 20:49 | clicking Juv Fic doesn't do that, it does both | |
| 20:50 | in my mind, I would see both of them as individuals, unless told to chain them... but that may be way too much to ask | |
| 20:50 | and if not individuals, then the way that xslt shows them | |
| 20:51 | where they appear obviously chained (but aren't) would be a better display | |
| 20:51 | d | |
| 20:51 | o | |
| 20:51 | does this make sense, am I talking nonsense? | |
| 20:53 | jcamins | No, that makes sense. |
| 20:53 | And that means that owen's solution is good. | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | ok phew |
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| 21:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5736: Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d2fde043f9673e68> / Bug 5569: Corrections to addbiblio.tmpl to be able to delete repetable mandatory... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b4525cfa8fe1b796> / Bug 4072 Lost items aren't hidden on OPAC res |
| 21:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 4 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.2.x build #4: UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/4/ |
| 22:11 | * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: fix calculation of due dates by offline circ | |
| 22:11 | * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: whitespace and formatting cleanup | |
| 22:11 | * Paul Poulain: BZ3624, proposed patch for kohastructure.sql rewritten | |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2975 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Offline circ tries to circ on biblio-level "itemtype" |
| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 3624 : Follow up patch, to catch any installs that still have the missing columns |
| 22:11 | * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 5703: Hide the $9 subfield (linked authid) when showing series for a MARC record in normal view. | |
| 22:11 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5527: Fix some problems in inactive borrowers report | |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3624 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED, Basket group delivery place |
| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: update INSTALL* to acknowledge the use of mod_deflate |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5703 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, Content of the $9 subfield is shown for series when in Normal view. |
| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | * Colin Campbell: bug_5064 Rework data retrieval in booksellers.pl |
| 22:11 | * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 5595: (MT #5757)adding additional attributes support on patrons's search | |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table |
| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 5846: fix detection of Javascript to compress by mod_gzip |
| 22:11 | * Frédéric Demians: Bug 4072 Lost items aren't hidden on OPAC result page | |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes |
| 22:12 | jenkins_koha | * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5569: Corrections to addbiblio.tmpl to be able to delete repetable mandatory subfields |
| 22:12 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5736: Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs | |
| 22:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5846 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, mod_gzip can missing compressing Javascript files |
| 22:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4072 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, hidelostitems hides all results when searching (nozebra) | |
| 22:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5569 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, addbiblio fails while editing and deleting mandatory repeatable subfields | |
| 22:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5736 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs | |
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