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03:19 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
03:19 | My heart goes out to Japan | |
03:19 | druthb | hi, kmkale |
03:20 | kmkale | hi druthb |
03:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b94f911c92913d170> / Bug 5669: Adding a system preference to control whether a user can select a pick... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5d5404051305d5db> |
03:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 39 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #37 19 h ago) |
03:39 | mtj | evening all |
03:53 | kmkale | hi mtj |
03:55 | * druthb | is very occasionally somewhat ashamed to be an American--for instance, when some of my countrymen and women assert that the earthquakes and reactor problems in Japan are "paybacks" for Pearl Harbor. Insensitive, uncompassionate, clueless, *morons*. |
03:56 | kmkale | whut??? |
03:57 | druthb | It's a meme that's made the rounds on twitter and facebook some. Mostly in the less-educated circles. No one on my list, thank goodness, because I'd have to just stomp on that; |
03:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #39: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/39/ |
03:57 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5669: Adding a system preference to control whether a user can select a pick branch for their hold or not | |
03:57 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version | |
03:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5669 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Holds pick up location - System preference |
03:57 | kmkale | there are fools everywhere |
04:04 | ibeardslee | that sort of attitude is one of the reasons I've never taken up my USA passport |
04:07 | druthb | I think the vast majority of Americans are basically-good folk, mostly--but the ones that are not really stand out with how spectacularly far out in left field they are. |
04:07 | rangi | or right field as the case may be :) |
04:07 | druthb | heh |
04:08 | hi, rangi! :) | |
04:08 | rangi | heya druthb |
04:08 | ibeardslee | mind you I don't think the USA can stake a claim to having all the nutters |
04:09 | druthb | I had dinner with gmcharlt and his lovely wife this afternoon. I postulate that he is powered by a small singularity. |
04:10 | eythian | "speaking of nutters..." ;) |
04:11 | druthb | It was good to see him, and only an hour's drive out of my way to do so. |
04:14 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]lay-in-Wellington |
04:15 | druthb | :) |
04:23 | kmkale | I visited five hotels yesterday |
04:23 | hope to put up that info on the conference site today | |
04:23 | eythian | kmkale: make sure you sort them by the quality of the wifi offering |
04:24 | kmkale | ok. its quality of beds I am checking out first :) |
04:24 | no worries though. they are all good | |
04:24 | all offer wifi | |
04:24 | one major question | |
04:24 | druthb | beds++; at code4lib, the bed I got was so smooshy I ended up sleeping on the floor.... |
04:25 | kmkale | do people pferer single occupancy or are they willing to share in a double occupancy ?? |
04:25 | eythian | I think the only answer there is "both" |
04:26 | I'd just put down what options there are, let people decide. | |
04:26 | druthb | yes; both. I'm willing to share, but that's just me...others' mileage may vary. |
04:26 | kmkale | need to know. so going to put up a small form today asking people to iindicate that choice |
04:26 | eythian | well, different people have different levels of privacy. |
04:26 | or sensitivity to snoring | |
04:26 | (or volume of snoring :) | |
04:27 | * druthb | giggles |
04:27 | kmkale | as almost all hotels in Thane are 20 rooms or there about. Two of the biggest ones have 45 and 65 |
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05:08 | cait | hi #koha |
05:08 | kmkale | hi cait |
05:08 | cait | hi kmkale |
05:09 | druthb | hi, cait. :) |
05:11 | cait | hi druthb :) |
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05:55 | cait | morning fredericd |
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05:57 | eythian | yay, we've just moved a group of libraries from the shackles of Liberty to Koha |
05:57 | (I just wanted to say "shackles of Liberty" :) | |
05:59 | cait | hehe |
05:59 | congratulations :) | |
06:00 | eythian | they're really quite happy with it too, which is good. |
06:01 | cait | yep |
06:30 | kmkale | Shackles of Liberty!! I always thought we get liberty once shackles were broken. ;) |
06:34 | eythian | Trust me, you should avoid Liberty� if you possibly can :) |
06:38 | cait | eythian: did you see my comment on your bug? |
06:38 | the one with .gitignore in the patch file? | |
06:41 | eythian | cait: yeah, I did. If I get time tomorrow or Wednesday I'll look at it, but I might be busy until then (and after that I'm off to the Solomon Islands to do some training there for a week, so if I don't get to it then, it'll be a little while) |
06:41 | cait | it's ok |
06:41 | solomon islands? nice :) | |
06:41 | eythian | yeah, it should be fun :) |
06:44 | kmkale | bbl |
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07:31 | kf | hi #koha |
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07:45 | rangi | kf: you got a second? |
07:46 | ahh nevermind figured it out | |
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07:50 | paul_p | hello everybody |
07:50 | rangi | hi paul_p |
07:50 | hdl | hi all |
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07:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5848: Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7af51e8d48ec906d9> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_4438' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e895b9240fe1d137> / bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation <http://git.koha-community.o |
07:53 | francharb | hello #koha |
07:53 | kf | kf: yes |
07:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 40 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
07:53 | kf | rangi: yes |
07:53 | talking to myself does not work... | |
07:54 | rangi: now I am curious about your question ;) | |
07:55 | rangi | just was trying to figure out what the patch for 5819 was, because it didnt have the bug number in the commit message |
07:55 | * rangi | amended it to add the bug number |
07:57 | kf | oh |
07:57 | thought I had done that | |
07:57 | probably forgot to format-patch again | |
07:58 | bug 5819 | |
07:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title |
07:58 | kf | ah no, this was another bug - sorry |
08:00 | rangi | paul_p: just one thing for your weekly emails |
08:00 | i dont want people to close bugs, just mark resolved fixed | |
08:00 | paul_p | rangi, yep |
08:01 | rangi | ill close them when i release |
08:01 | so test and mark resolved is cool | |
08:01 | paul_p | ok, will change the term for the next mail. |
08:01 | rangi | cool thank you :) |
08:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3ba9f7e3e8876f0b> |
08:13 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06f6478bcb4e19a80> / Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d598dcbd652b030b> | |
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08:28 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #40: SUCCESS in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/40/ |
08:28 | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation | |
08:28 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5848: Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail | |
08:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5848 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, Same position for the tabs of Normal, MARC and ISBD view in opac detail |
08:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 41 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:32 | kf | rangi++ |
09:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #41: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/41/ |
09:01 | * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix | |
09:01 | * Nicole Engard: Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs | |
09:01 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
09:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title |
09:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages | |
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10:46 | kf | hmpf |
10:46 | it seems item due can not interpret branches for digest, only for single item due mails. | |
10:53 | * magnuse | is surprised to see the contents of subscriptionhistory.librariannote show up in the opac... |
10:54 | hdl1 | should not be |
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10:55 | kmkale | http://www.abc.net.au/news/eve[…]1/beforeafter.htm |
10:56 | magnuse | hdl1: further investigations reveals it's most probably a problem with the data... |
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11:03 | hdl | no nickserv here ? |
11:06 | mtj | hdl: nickserv works for me |
11:06 | hdl | worked silently for me.. |
11:09 | kf | *sighs* |
11:09 | is there any reason there would be no hold message during check-in? | |
11:11 | mtj | if the item is not on hold...? |
11:11 | kf | it is |
11:11 | mtj | or a circ rule, prolly |
11:11 | kf | placing the hold works without any errormessage |
11:11 | but return somehow does not trigger it | |
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11:20 | mtj | hmm, pass on that one |
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11:26 | kf | mtj: still have no idea, but test on my production system was ok - will ignore the problem on my test installation for now |
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11:27 | kf | hi JesseM |
11:27 | JesseM | Morning kf |
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11:29 | JesseM | morning nengard |
11:30 | nengard | morning JesseM |
11:30 | slef around? | |
11:32 | kf | hi nengard |
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11:38 | nengard | hiya kf |
11:39 | @later tell slef the faq should be open for anyone to add to once logged into the admin area of the Koha site, if not you can add it to the manual in git and I'll put it on the site later, or you can just email me whatever and I'll add it in both places | |
11:39 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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12:02 | hdl | hi all |
12:04 | kf | hi hdl :) |
12:07 | JesseM | morning NateC |
12:08 | NateC | morning JesseM and #koha! |
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12:19 | magnuse | argh, lost power twice today - i'm definitely buying an ups later today! |
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12:23 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
12:23 | magnuse | hiya jcamins |
12:37 | jcamins | @later tell eythian If you get a chance, could you check that the latest Koha package works? I'm wondering if the reason kf and I both had trouble wasn't that there is some sort of corruption. |
12:37 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
12:40 | nengard | so many commits this weekend!! I'm so excited to get to updating the manual :) |
12:40 | jcamins | Help! The packages didn't work, and now I can't do an install from git. |
12:40 | * nengard | is a geek |
12:41 | kf | nengard++ for being a geek :) |
12:41 | nengard | hehe :) |
12:41 | kf | jcamins: what is the problem? |
12:41 | wahanui | the problem is, like, its human beings doing it |
12:41 | jcamins | wahanui: thanks. |
12:41 | wahanui | jcamins: my pleasure |
12:41 | kf | sometimes he really surprises me |
12:41 | paul_p | hi nengard, & congrats for your new position ( geek :D ) |
12:42 | nengard | paul_p that's not new - I was born that way :) hehe |
12:42 | jcamins | kf: perl Makefile.PL insists on trying to read the koha-conf that the package set up. |
12:42 | kf | nengard: I didn't want to go to work today because I wanted to work on my bugs and patches... |
12:42 | nengard | kf++ for also being a geek |
12:42 | jcamins | Ah-ha. |
12:42 | I just deleted it, and that worked. | |
12:42 | kf | hehe thx - just saying I know how you feel. :) |
12:53 | * jcamins | rebuilds zebra |
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13:11 | magnuse | has anyone else seen situations where opac-detail.pl shows more than one list of issues for a serial, even though there is only one subscription associated with the biblionumber? |
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13:15 | kf | magnuse: sorry no |
13:15 | magnuse | kf, nah, that's good for you! ;-) |
13:19 | kf | magnuse: yes... but want to help :) |
13:19 | magnuse | kf: much appreciated! |
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14:01 | oleonard | We just noticed a bug where there are instances of "&" in search results |
14:01 | This one is new to me, can't find a big report for it | |
14:01 | Guest324 | we've seen that too, they told us it was something with our records. |
14:02 | Guest324 is now known as wizzyrea | |
14:02 | oleonard | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]+wolf+little+wolf |
14:02 | Weird how it's inconsistent. Result 1 and 2 vs. Result 3 | |
14:02 | jwagner | owen, we saw & reported that a long time ago -- David Birmingham did a fix. It should be in head. |
14:02 | jcamins | oleonard: that's creepy. |
14:02 | I just wrote an e-mail about that issue. | |
14:03 | It's a bug in Zebra. | |
14:03 | oleonard | jcamins: I saw that it was an existing ticket in your system, so I was surprised not to find an official bug report |
14:03 | jwagner | Trying to find our bug number |
14:03 | jcamins | Bug 3326 |
14:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml |
14:04 | oleonard | Ah, well no wonder. Greek to me :) |
14:04 | jcamins: Any idea about the patch mentioned in that bug report? | |
14:05 | schuster | I've seen this but couldn't figure out how to explain it! |
14:07 | jcamins | oleonard: the problem is that the patch doesn't actually correct the problem. |
14:07 | wizzyrea | it doesn't for non-xslt anyway |
14:07 | er | |
14:07 | other way round | |
14:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: doesn't at all. :( |
14:07 | wizzyrea | (that's what the patch author says) ohh, that sucks. |
14:07 | jwagner | Drat. I can't find our bugzilla entry, but I know it's about a year & a half old and dealt specifically with this problem -- XSLT showing & instead of & |
14:07 | jcamins | There are search ramifications too. |
14:08 | JesseM | if they cancel with theri current vendor do they get money retro back? |
14:08 | jcamins | JesseM: ww |
14:08 | JesseM | sry sry syr |
14:08 | jcamins | I had an idea how to fix the search ramifications, but that would still leave the display. |
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14:11 | jwagner | oleonard, in current head, do git show 77141dab35e07d488efb326c9694c8d4d3f914fe for David's patch on the ampersand |
14:11 | Oops, that one was for branchcode. Let me try again. | |
14:12 | Actually, it was for both problems. It does $xmlrecord =~ s/\& /\&\; /; | |
14:13 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
14:14 | * jcamins | has just realized that he might be able to fix the display after all. |
14:14 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
14:15 | jcamins | Okay, negative lookahead in Perl? |
14:15 | Like this: ?=whatever | |
14:15 | No, ?!whatever | |
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14:19 | Barrc | Hello all - another SIP question.....I noticed the SIP implementation doesn't send back title information in the 64 string (if the summary string is sent to look for it) only item barcode |
14:19 | Is this by design? | |
14:20 | jcamins | Does anyone have a MARC record which includes a URL which has an ampersand that doesn't currently work in Koha? |
14:22 | I'll take that as a "no." | |
14:22 | Does anyone have any suggestions where I could find a URL that has an ampersand in it to stick in a MARC record? | |
14:22 | Barrc | Do you mean a URL in a tag in a MARC record? |
14:23 | jcamins | Right. |
14:23 | wizzyrea | owen sent one |
14:23 | you could download it from his catalog | |
14:23 | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]+wolf+little+wolf | |
14:23 | slef | gmcharlt: alive? |
14:23 | Barrc | Search Amazon for a book, the URL should have an ampersand in it |
14:23 | gmcharlt | slef: not dead yet |
14:23 | wizzyrea | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=233571 |
14:23 | Barrc | http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb[…]ords=perl&x=0&y=0 |
14:23 | wizzyrea | save record |
14:24 | jcamins | Barrc: ooh, good call! |
14:24 | slef | gmcharlt: I'm just bringing up my notes on this MARC control-character crash thing. |
14:24 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I'm looking for an ampersand in a URL, and my head is still fuzzy and I couldn't figure out where to find one. |
14:24 | wizzyrea | oh sorry url |
14:24 | not a title | |
14:24 | i'm not so sharpish myself | |
14:25 | slef | gmcharlt: the problem I have is that Koha crashes, so I don't see a fault being logged anywhere IIRC |
14:26 | gmcharlt | slef: not even the Apache error log? |
14:26 | slef | gmcharlt: apache error log just says (20014)Internal error: Error reading request entity data |
14:27 | gmcharlt | hmm |
14:27 | can you provide a copy of the MARC record that's triggering this? | |
14:27 | slef | trying to find one |
14:28 | I fear it's not a clear as a single MARC record. I think it's some interaction with Koha's authorities management :-/ | |
14:29 | oh whoops | |
14:29 | I just went to type a control character into Koha. I typed control-q first (because that's how to type a literal control character in Emacs)... you can guess what happened next :-/ | |
14:30 | I HATE THE RUBBISH WINDOWS USER INTERFACE AND HOW IT IS SLOWLY SCREWING UP GNU</rant> | |
14:31 | I'd install something other than Iceweasel/Firefox if I had time. | |
14:32 | Well, the last record my most recently-affected user reports crashes Koha didn't crash it for me :-/ | |
14:33 | Trying another one which I'm sure previously crashed it. | |
14:35 | ok, it's something connected to authorities :-/ | |
14:35 | jcamins | Preliminary testing suggests that this may have fixed it. |
14:35 | No, never mind. Preliminary testing suggests that Amazon understands "&" | |
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14:36 | gmcharlt | jcamins: regarding your question, I have a patch in the works to update the default MARC21 framework |
14:36 | jcamins | gmcharlt++ |
14:37 | Hooray! | |
14:37 | gmcharlt | it will also make it possible to automatically pull updates, at least until LC changes the format of the MARC21 manual again |
14:37 | jcamins | That would be excellent! |
14:38 | Ugh. Preliminary testing suggests that every website I try understands & | |
14:39 | Or possibly Chrome replaces it. | |
14:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: odd; that would be fairly bad breakage on Chrome's part |
14:41 | jcamins | It works fine in Firefox too. Apparently one has to *work* to find a website that breaks when you use a link that includes "&" |
14:41 | magnuse | gmcharlt: any idea what happened to the categories below the textarea in the wiki? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Page&action=edit |
14:42 | gmcharlt | magnuse: glitch with the upgrade of extension that manages them; should be fixed shortly |
14:42 | magnuse | gmcharlt: great! |
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14:54 | jcamins | Where does the XSLT get processed into the results display? |
14:56 | Ah-ha. | |
14:56 | Search.pm. | |
14:56 | wahanui | search.pm is complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support. |
14:57 | jcamins | Complicated? |
14:57 | wahanui: Complicated is far too mild a term to describe Search.pm. | |
14:57 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
14:58 | jcamins | Are there any side effects to adding a parameter to a method? |
14:59 | magnuse | Complicated? |
14:59 | wahanui | Complicated is far too mild a term to describe Search.pm. |
15:01 | kf | wahanui botsnack cookie |
15:01 | wahanui | :) |
15:02 | jcamins | Wait, XSLTResultsDisplay doesn't do anything? |
15:02 | * jcamins | never knew this. |
15:03 | magnuse | jcamins: isn't that the one that gives you an error if you turn it on? because the corresponding xslt file is missing? |
15:04 | jcamins | magnuse: I don't know. There's a FIXME note in Search.pm saying it's not implemented. |
15:04 | So, probably. | |
15:04 | Argh! | |
15:04 | kf | jcamins: only in intranet |
15:04 | jcamins | All that patching, and _now_ I realize that I'm in the wrong system, and can't send my patch. |
15:04 | kf | jcamins: there is no xslt file for intranet, but should not give you a warning, just do nothing |
15:04 | magnuse | jcamins: i think you get the error in the staff side search if you turn it on |
15:04 | oleonard | FIXMEs are so useful. |
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15:19 | nengard | hi all, i need git help ... again |
15:20 | i updated the wrong version of the manual and i want to revert the changes to my 3.2 manual branch to what it is in git | |
15:20 | i did a git reset --soft HEAD^ | |
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15:20 | nengard | and it still says the files are altered |
15:20 | i also did git reset --hard origin | |
15:20 | but it's saying that it's at the commit i don't want | |
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15:22 | kf | hm, I think --hard HEAD^ should make the last one go |
15:23 | nengard | kf that did it!! |
15:23 | thanks :) | |
15:23 | kf | :) |
15:37 | nengard | kf for bug 3495 are you adding the fast cataloging link to a page other than the circ home? cause i see it on the circ home - just wondering where to look to test |
15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3495 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Fast bib record add at circulation |
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15:38 | kf | nengard: try to checkout an unknown barcode |
15:39 | the permissions work like on circ-home - you see it as superlibrarian and with fast cataloging rights | |
15:39 | nengard | bingo :) |
15:40 | kf | it's something we had in horizon - but I would love to have a framework that it's even less complicated. like 5-6 fields and item and biblio on one small popup |
15:40 | it's still not really fast | |
15:41 | nengard | kf, i have a 'fast' fast add framework |
15:41 | i worked to shorted the one that was on there | |
15:41 | shortened | |
15:42 | i'll gladly share it once the import/export function is in place :) | |
15:42 | i shortened the item record and the bib record to only the fields needed at the circ desk | |
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15:45 | kf | nengard: :) |
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16:18 | ronald | hello |
16:19 | i have a problem | |
16:19 | oleonard | Hi ronald |
16:19 | ronald | hi oleonard |
16:19 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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16:23 | wizzyrea | kf nengard I was looking at signing off on that one too |
16:23 | on 3495 | |
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16:23 | wizzyrea | but I couldn't find it either |
16:24 | tomascohen | hi #koha |
16:24 | i wanted to start working on bug 906 | |
16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, NEW, ISBN Check |
16:24 | tomascohen | and wanted to reach some sort of agreement |
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16:24 | tcohen | i wanted to start working on bug 906 |
16:24 | (ISBN Check) | |
16:24 | and wanted to reach some sort of agreement | |
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16:24 | tomascohen | on what to check |
16:24 | i.e. consistency with isbn10/13 definition | |
16:25 | mib_ffc7ko | ?? |
16:25 | hi | |
16:25 | wahanui | privet, mib_ffc7ko |
16:25 | mib_ffc7ko | hi wahanui |
16:25 | Barrc | Just putting this out again - in case there are more people around now! |
16:25 | I noticed the SIP implementation doesn't send back title information in the 64 string (if the summary string is sent to look for it) only item barcode | |
16:26 | wizzyrea | have you filed a bug? |
16:26 | ronald | hi |
16:26 | install the new koha | |
16:26 | but i have a problem | |
16:26 | wizzyrea | at bugs.koha-community.org |
16:26 | Barrc | wizzyrea: Is that to me? |
16:26 | wizzyrea | yes, sorry |
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16:26 | ronald | I can not see my searches |
16:26 | can someone help?? | |
16:26 | i have a proble whit the new koha | |
16:26 | dont search nothind | |
16:27 | jcamins | searching faq? |
16:27 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
16:27 | jcamins | ronald: ^^ |
16:27 | ronald | i have a problema whit the new koha...can someone help me |
16:27 | wizzyrea | haha i forgot that wahanui had that one |
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16:27 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
16:27 | wahanui | searching faq is probably at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
16:27 | Barrc | Nope, I will though. I just wondered if anyone thinks it is a bug. The SIP 2 spec doesn't actually specify the requirement either way. Alot (all) other ILS that I know send back the title though |
16:27 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that was the link that inspired chris to set up wahanui, I think. |
16:28 | wizzyrea | if you want it to do it, 1. file a bug and 2. send a patch (if you can) |
16:28 | * wizzyrea | channels rangi |
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16:31 | * oleonard | hopes ronald found the link useful |
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16:33 | mib_mu6462 | ?? |
16:33 | any someone help me? | |
16:33 | oleonard | What is your question mib_mu6462 ? |
16:34 | ronald | hi |
16:34 | any someone help me? | |
16:34 | i install the new koha | |
16:34 | oleonard | ronald: Someone suggested a link to you: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
16:34 | jcamins | ronald: you should look at that page that wahanui gave you the link for. |
16:35 | mib_mu6462 | record amount |
16:35 | but i try search | |
16:35 | and dont show me nothind | |
16:36 | tcohen | anyone wants to talk about bug 906 today? |
16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, NEW, ISBN Check |
16:36 | wizzyrea | mib_mu6462: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
16:36 | please have a look there | |
16:37 | slef | tcohen: I'm with you: what should we do? Warn? Refuse it? |
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16:37 | slef | tcohen: also should we be validating the calculation or verifying it with some outside source? Bug report is a bit vague. |
16:37 | tcohen | slef: the only use for this is notify the publisher there is a mistake |
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16:38 | tcohen | so I think we should warn |
16:38 | if there was a database to check to | |
16:38 | we could also ask (webservice) if the ISBN is valid | |
16:38 | even if it is *incorrect* | |
16:40 | there is a javascript library (mit license) i will use fr checking ISBN validity | |
16:41 | the pieces i'm missing are: (a)warn vs. refusal (b) check outside ISBN databae (have no clue on where to check) | |
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16:49 | oleonard | nengard: Are you sure unapproved tags were showing up on the detail and results pages for the logged in user? I don't remember that, but I do remember that they showed up on the tags page. |
16:49 | nengard | yup, i'm sure |
16:50 | cause i documented it as such in 3.0 | |
16:50 | it's not a big deal really, just something that was there in the normal view -back before we had XSLT (i think) | |
16:52 | oleonard | I agree that it should behave as you remember it. |
16:52 | Otherwise people will be trying to add tags they've already added. | |
16:53 | jcamins | nengard: I don't think tags are displayed by the XSLT, are they? |
16:53 | I mean, it's done in Perl. | |
16:53 | cait | I think it's below the xslt display |
16:53 | and agree with oleonard and nengard - there should be a message to the user about tags pending approval | |
16:53 | nengard | k -then it's not xslt related, but they were there |
16:56 | cait | time to learn something about project management :) see you all later! |
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17:19 | slef | tcohen: I think it's worth asking a list. I hope some librarians will answer |
17:20 | * slef | looks puzzledly at cait |
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17:38 | * jcamins | wonders why his cat only engages in distressing behaviors when he's home alone with the cat. |
17:41 | theorizes it's because the cat knows that jcamins won't know what to do about really weird behaviors. | |
17:45 | gmcharlt | very considerate, I guess |
17:45 | or something | |
17:46 | jcamins | Yeah, maximizing the panic is good. ;) |
17:49 | chris_n | cait: about? |
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17:54 | chris_n | @later tell cait the patch for bug 1962 still does not apply; it appears the problem is in returns.tmpl about line 58 or so |
17:54 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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18:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #3 8 j 17 h ago) |
18:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]116dee26f582b4fe5> / Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]23bb42da289aba056> / Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
18:26 | rangi | chris_n: did you catch my fix for 5595 |
18:26 | that should get the tests passing again | |
18:27 | chris_n | rangi: got it, tnx |
18:27 | all pushed up | |
18:27 | rangi | cool |
18:27 | chris_n | man the ring of fire struck again, eh? |
18:27 | wizzyrea | :( |
18:29 | rangi | yep |
18:30 | jcamins | chris_n++ # for daring to delve into the label creator code. |
18:30 | * chris_n | must own a great part of the responsibility for that section of code :-S |
18:30 | oleonard | Hi rangi and chris_n |
18:31 | chris_n | heya oleonard |
18:31 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, the master UI designer of koha |
18:32 | rangi | http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/asi[…]bble-to-get-to-NZ |
18:34 | I'm only reading stories like that now | |
18:34 | the others are too depressing | |
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18:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.2.x build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/5/ |
18:42 | * Chris Cormack: Adding release dates and 2 new developers | |
18:42 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5595 : Fixing a security glitch (please always use placeholders or | |
18:42 | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: bug4438/MT5496 budget Exceeds total allocation | |
18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5595 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, can't search 'searchable' patron attributes |
18:42 | jenkins_koha | * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5819 : No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title - fix |
18:42 | * Nicole Engard: Bug 3670: change 'Item DUE' to 'Item Due' in English dbs | |
18:42 | * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.003 | |
18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5819 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, RESOLVED FIXED, No toolbar in record view when quotes present in title |
18:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages | |
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19:28 | * slef | and sekjal coordination comedy continues. sekjal afk today; slef afk tomorrow. Yay for asynchronous participation. |
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19:32 | gmcharlt | "and after many years of research, historians figured out that the practice of implanting keyboards in people's arms dates from this minor incident in 2011" |
19:32 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
19:32 | wizzyrea | i've been wanting to, for days, make a National Geographic type comment regarding the elusive rangi ;) |
19:33 | rangi | what |
19:33 | im always here | |
19:33 | i just dont answer you when you are too boring | |
19:33 | :P | |
19:33 | wizzyrea | :P indeed |
19:33 | chris_n | hehe |
19:34 | schuster | hehe... |
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20:18 | druthb | @seen cait |
20:18 | huginn | druthb: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> time to learn something about project management :) see you all later! |
20:31 | rangi | anyone got time to sign a patch off for me? |
20:32 | jcamins | rangi: what's the patch? |
20:32 | wahanui | the patch is probably pretty old now, good luck |
20:32 | nengard | rangi depends on the patch :) |
20:32 | rangi | will be just hitting the list now |
20:32 | bug 5693 | |
20:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, REOPENED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail |
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20:35 | rangi | that fix for parentheses, broke the page number .. try doing a search and limit it to itemtype or ccode |
20:36 | then try going to page 2 | |
20:36 | (using advanced search) | |
20:36 | this patch should fix this | |
20:39 | nengard: you signed off on the original patch so should be ok for you :-) | |
20:42 | magnuse | two dev installs on the same box - is it possible to run two z39.50/sru servers on the same port, differentiated by hostname? so a.example.com:9999/biblios and b.example.com:9999/biblios would be two distinct servers? |
20:42 | rangi | they different ips? |
20:42 | or 2 names that resolve to the same ip? | |
20:43 | (the answer is yes you can, but if they are the same ip, it does involve more work) | |
20:43 | if they resolve to the same ip | |
20:43 | you start the sru servers on 2 different ports | |
20:44 | then use mod_proxy in apache | |
20:44 | with named virtualhosts, to proxy to the appropriate one | |
20:44 | if they are different ips you just bind to that ip address | |
20:44 | magnuse | same ip... |
20:44 | rangi | that make sense? |
20:44 | yeah then you run them on different ports, 9997 and 9998 eg | |
20:45 | and then get apache listening on 9999, with 2 virtual hosts | |
20:45 | mod_proxying to the appropriate port | |
20:45 | something like this | |
20:45 | magnuse | ah hah, guess i better go read up on mod_proxy, then. thanks for the tip! |
20:46 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "sample proxying" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173 |
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20:46 | rangi | or you could do the same with nginx |
20:47 | magnuse | do i have to open up 9997 and 9998 in iptables? or can apache "bridge" between 9999 and the "internal" ports? (not sure that made sense) |
20:48 | rangi | no, run them on 9997 on localhost |
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20:48 | rangi | and then mod_proxy to that |
20:48 | magnuse | i see, thanks! |
20:48 | rangi | think of it as DNAT |
20:48 | :) | |
20:49 | magnuse | yeah, right... ;-) |
20:51 | schuster | dnat is something that buzzes around my head right? |
20:51 | rangi | once you get your head around proxying |
20:52 | schuster | ;) |
20:52 | Can I get someone else to do that for me... LOL... | |
20:52 | rangi | you'll start using it all over the place |
20:53 | nengard++ | |
20:53 | signed off already | |
20:54 | was a fairly nasty one, broke all the pagination for searches if you limited by itemtype | |
20:54 | broke the facets too | |
20:55 | fixed now | |
20:55 | @later tell chris_n you will want to cherry-pick the latest patch for bug 5693 | |
20:55 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
20:56 | magnuse | http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebrasrv.html seems to talk about creating virtual servers within <yazgfs> too: "In order to distinguish between the two a virtual host has been specified for each of server in the host elements."... |
20:56 | rangi | ohh maybe you can then |
20:57 | give that a try | |
21:00 | magnuse | hm, "element host (optional) - Specifies the virtual host for this server. If this is specified a client /must/ specify this host string in order to use this backend." not sure how to do that for a sru request? |
21:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5693' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb3df1ab4bd072ca1> / Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c510d931dde34370> |
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21:04 | magnuse | nah, i think that last one would only work if they were all/both defined as one server - what i want is two different servers listening on the same port. back to mod_proxy! |
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21:06 | cait | hi all |
21:06 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
21:06 | cait | hi magnuse |
21:07 | still here? | |
21:07 | wahanui | hmmm... here is where I work |
21:07 | magnuse | cait: nope, more like "here again" ;-) |
21:07 | cait | chris_n: see your message, wonder why it does not work |
21:08 | magnuse: like me | |
21:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 42 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
21:09 | magnuse | cait: had some fun with your project management? |
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21:09 | cait | hm |
21:09 | not so much | |
21:36 | mtj | heya cait and magnuse |
21:37 | magnuse | kia ora mtj |
21:37 | cait | heya mtj |
21:37 | mtj | hows thing over there? |
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21:39 | cait | late! |
21:39 | ;) | |
21:39 | have to prepare a few things for tomorrow | |
21:40 | how are things on your side of the world? | |
21:40 | mtj | pretty good here |
21:41 | just finished some months of busy work | |
21:41 | so i have a little breather now... | |
21:41 | cait | :) |
21:42 | mtj | hopefully have more time for Koha bugfixing/signing-off/sending-patches stuff |
21:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #42: SUCCESS in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/42/ |
21:42 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5693 : Follow up patch, escaping HTML in limit_cgi so "" dont break hrefs | |
21:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5693 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, reed, REOPENED, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail |
21:43 | cait | mtj: I hope for that too - next 2 weeks will be a bit crazy, but not so many things planned after that yet |
21:43 | magnuse | just a little trip to mariseille? ;-) |
21:44 | marseille... | |
21:44 | mtj | ooh la la! |
21:44 | cait | marseille means working on patches and code (I hope!) |
21:44 | I consider that fun :) | |
21:44 | magnuse | hehe :-) |
21:45 | mtj | i have been thinking of many programming ideas for the project, in general |
21:45 | and i really want a little time off, to do some of then | |
21:45 | and the kc.org website too | |
21:45 | cait | :) |
21:47 | mtj | but more on that later, im gonna switch to some vserver work now.... |
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21:50 | cait | of course.. he leaves after he made me curious... |
21:52 | mtj | well, none of my ideas ideas are more important than the patch backlog, so i wont waffle on about them now |
21:53 | * cait | has to sign-off more patches... |
21:53 | mtj | as do i |
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21:54 | mtj | i am very close to finishing my urgent client-werk backlog… the first time ever , for me |
21:55 | cait | uhoh |
21:55 | don't say that loud | |
21:55 | everytime I say something like that my todo list fills up magically ;) | |
21:55 | mtj | ha, yeah - that was tempting fate! |
21:56 | *nod* yep, me too | |
21:57 | such a silly thing to say, lol | |
21:57 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
21:57 | mtj | i have been 'very close' to finishing urgent client-werk, many many times, of course :) |
21:58 | sleep well magnuse | |
21:58 | cait | good night magnuse! |
21:58 | mtj | back to it…. |
21:58 | eythian | jcamins: what problems did you have with it? |
21:59 | I have it deployed and working on some of our systems | |
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22:01 | jcamins | It didn't seem to create the user. |
22:01 | cait | yep it didn't |
22:01 | and I managed to get a install I couldn't start nor koha-remove | |
22:02 | jcamins | I was on Ubuntu, so maybe that's why. |
22:02 | cait | me too :) |
22:02 | eythian | jcamins: what was the error message it gave you? |
22:03 | Currently if the koha-create fails, you can end up with a half-created system that has to be cleaned up manually, it's a pain and something I intend to fix. | |
22:03 | jcamins | It didn't give me any error on installation. |
22:04 | And unfortunately I didn't think to copy the error I got when I tried to reindex. | |
22:04 | eythian | what about when running 'koha-create'? |
22:04 | jcamins | I used the koha package. |
22:04 | eythian | koha-create is part of the package :) |
22:05 | or, did you use the 'koha' package? | |
22:05 | jcamins | The latter. |
22:05 | eythian | I don't use that, I just use koha-common. The koha package still needs a lot of polish that I haven't had time for |
22:05 | jcamins | I guess I'll know for next time to use 'koha-common'? |
22:05 | Ah. | |
22:05 | We should probably note that 'koha-common' is preferred, even for simple installations. | |
22:05 | cait | eythian: I used koha-common :( |
22:06 | eythian | cait: and what errors did you get? |
22:06 | cait | um |
22:06 | perhaps I can try to do it again when you are around? | |
22:06 | eythian | koha-common gives you a blank setup, you need to create a file (which I plan to include a default version of soon) and then koha-create *libraryname* should magically work |
22:07 | cait | it did only work when there was a user called like my libraryname |
22:07 | eythian | it should create a user 'libraryname-koha' |
22:07 | cait | and I am not sure I had the right settings in the conf file I created |
22:08 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha <-- this section is a good guide |
22:08 | cait | yep, I got a bit farther with that |
22:08 | I think it was apache or me not ifguring out the right urls | |
22:09 | eythian | hmm OK |
22:09 | if you try again and grab the errors, let me know, I'd be interested. I've been a bit too snowed under with work to do a lot of testing lately | |
22:09 | jcamins | My problem must have been the koha package. |
22:09 | *'koha' | |
22:10 | I've installed it successfully before, but maybe I used 'koha-common' | |
22:10 | cait | I will try again sometime soon. I still have a clean snapshot |
22:10 | eythian: I am quite sure it was something I have done wrong | |
22:11 | eythian | yeah, what I've been trying to do is have the koha package set up a default installation on top of koha-common, but it turned out to be harder than I thought, so it's still half finished. |
22:11 | cait: that may be, it doesn't mean it's not something that I can fix for everyone else who does the same thing wrong ;) | |
22:11 | cait | ok :) |
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22:11 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
22:11 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
22:12 | eythian | jcamins_away: cya |
22:12 | cait | jcamins_away: sleep well |
22:19 | hm, someone awake who knows which circ rules are taken for opac reneals and if this can be configured? | |
22:22 | mtj | cait: http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl › http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]min/admin-home.pl › Circulation and Fine Rules |
22:22 | 'Renewals Allowed (count)' | |
22:23 | cait | mtj: I know :) the problem is: borrower from branch b, checks out item owned by branch a at branch c |
22:23 | he does renew on opac: which rule is taken? | |
22:24 | mtj | ah, great question, i think 'branch A' |
22:24 | but i'd have to check | |
22:25 | cait | yeah, requires some testing - |
22:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 6 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #3 8 j 22 h ago) |
22:50 | JM_ left #koha | |
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22:55 | rangi | heya brendan_ |
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22:59 | space_librarian | any reason why the demo sites on the Koha-community page are down? Or is it just me? |
23:02 | eythian | space_librarian: because our one isn't on there :) |
23:02 | space_librarian: http://demo.mykoha.co.nz | |
23:02 | I really need to update the database on that some time | |
23:03 | space_librarian | great. massacres averted. |
23:03 | rangi | the bywater ones are running master, mykoha is running 3.2.x |
23:03 | different | |
23:03 | space_librarian | good to know |
23:04 | * mtj | has plans for a demo site too |
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23:10 | rangi | druthb: ahhh just the woman :) |
23:10 | druthb | uhoh. |
23:11 | cait | hi druthb |
23:11 | rangi | http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ <-- appears to be down |
23:16 | druthb | Hm...so it does. Thanks for letting me know, rangi. I have told it to reboot itself; let's see what happens. |
23:16 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
23:16 | Project Koha_3.2.x build #6: FIXED in 33 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/6/ | |
23:16 | rangi | yay! |
23:17 | cait | yay :) |
23:24 | druthb | The demo seems to be back up; it is responding, and answering search requests. Thanks again, rangi. |
23:24 | rangi | np |
23:38 | mtj | druthb: pssst... nagios |
23:39 | cait | time to sleep |
23:39 | bye all | |
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23:39 | druthb | mtj: We've been deploying that, actually...jcamins has been working on that. :) |
23:41 | mtj | yeah, its a good one for host-down type alerts/emails, etc |
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23:42 | * eythian | is just looking at plans to build a proper monitoring system |
23:42 | eythian | that gets info from the guts of koha, e.g. makes sure search is working, etc. |
23:53 | * druthb | dances around happily. |
23:55 | just got handed a signal honor. I'm lovin' this. | |
23:57 | mtj | eythian: sweet news |
23:58 | ive been thinking of a munin plugin to monitor issue/returns graphing for … ages | |
23:59 | conan left #koha | |
23:59 | mtj | and a munin zebra_queue graph, could be useful too |
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