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| 00:33 | druthb | Howdy, from Bloomington, Indiana. |
| 00:35 | rangi | hows the hackfest going? |
| 00:35 | druthb | Starting in about 40 minutes. :) |
| 00:35 | rangi | cool |
| 00:36 | druthb | sekjal has run off to see if he can find a couple of twelve-packs of soda or something. |
| 00:36 | rangi | cool |
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| 00:44 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 00:44 | rangi | heya Brooke_ |
| 00:45 | druthb | hi, Br |
| 00:45 | grrr..nails. Howdy, Brooke. :) | |
| 00:46 | * Brooke_ | feels the love. |
| 00:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2aa2bc5f030dd44f8> |
| 00:53 | Brooke_ | sanctuary! |
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| 00:57 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3495 : Providing a link to the fast add screen in circulation for an item that... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78157e069278085c9> |
| 00:57 | hudsonbot | Starting build 351 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: adding some copyright BibLibre statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]855bdf0e6924c2a09> |
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| 01:25 | * Brooke_ | grins impishly |
| 01:25 | Brooke_ | do we have a kete? |
| 01:26 | rangi | http://www.emeraldinsight.com/[…]1906416&show=html |
| 01:26 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #351: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/351/ |
| 01:26 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation | |
| 01:26 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 3495 : Providing a link to the fast add screen in circulation for an item that isn't found | |
| 01:27 | Starting build 352 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:28 | rangi | does the koha project have a kete? nope |
| 01:29 | Brooke_ | is Walter bribeable? |
| 01:30 | rangi | probably |
| 01:38 | brendan_ joined #koha | |
| 01:38 | * Brooke_ | waves to brendan |
| 01:38 | brendan_ | hi brooke |
| 01:39 | rangi | hi brendan_ |
| 01:39 | brendan_ | rangi :) |
| 01:39 | sekjal joined #koha | |
| 01:40 | brendan_ | hiya sekjal |
| 01:40 | sekjal | hey, brendan |
| 01:40 | Brooke_ | hi sekjal |
| 01:41 | sekjal | hi, Brooke! |
| 01:41 | koha hackfest at Code4Lib | |
| 01:41 | rangi | find the soda? |
| 01:41 | sekjal | yes, got a couple twelvepacks |
| 01:42 | and a growler of local beer for anyone who prefers | |
| 01:42 | Brooke_ | omnomnomnomnom |
| 01:42 | can't | |
| 01:42 | might have to drive. | |
| 01:46 | eythian | a "growler"? |
| 01:46 | Brooke_ | yep |
| 01:47 | sekjal | eythian: a very large bottle of beer |
| 01:47 | Brooke_ | like a pint, but better and bigger :D |
| 01:47 | eythian | Oh. A rigger perhaps then. |
| 01:47 | usually PET bottles, 1, 1.5, 2L | |
| 01:47 | brendan_ | oh cool sekjal - are there a few of you there for a koha hackfest? |
| 01:48 | sekjal | so far it's druthb, bshum and myself |
| 01:48 | we just opened the doors not too long ago | |
| 01:48 | rangi | make sure you show bshum the packages :-) |
| 01:48 | eythian | every day is a koha hackfest here at Catalyst :D |
| 01:48 | Brooke_ | http://www.google.com/images?h[…]&biw=1187&bih=924 |
| 01:48 | for growler's sake | |
| 01:50 | eythian | ah yep |
| 01:51 | similar things, although ours aren't usually glass. | |
| 01:51 | * Brooke_ | doesn't think jugs are interchangeable with growlers. |
| 01:51 | Brooke_ | thanks to sekjal, I now have the jug song in me head. :P |
| 01:52 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #352: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/352/ |
| 01:52 | Paul Poulain: adding some copyright BibLibre statements | |
| 01:53 | brendan_ | ah bshum should hop in channel here ;) |
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| 01:58 | rangi | hey druthb and brendan_ |
| 01:58 | hmm tab fail | |
| 01:58 | bshum even | |
| 01:58 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 01:59 | bshum | /waves at the Koha folk :) |
| 02:00 | brendan_ | hiya |
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| 02:01 | druthb | howdy from a mini hack fest. :) |
| 02:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b0fe636c7ed3d1b9> |
| 02:12 | hudsonbot | Starting build 353 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:13 | bshum | Oh, hi rangi :) |
| 02:23 | rangi | right that will make cait happy, i just pushed her fix for 3009 |
| 02:23 | druthb | making_cait_happy++ |
| 02:24 | mtj | http://www.theaustralian.com.a[…]996-1226002713751 |
| 02:24 | * mtj | waves ... |
| 02:24 | mtj | heya folks |
| 02:24 | rangi | !hudson status |
| 02:24 | hudsonbot | status of all projects: |
| 02:24 | Koha_3.0.x(disabled) : last build: 2 (3 mo 11 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ | |
| 02:24 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 97 (1 day 2 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/97/ | |
| 02:24 | Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch: last build: 6 (7 days 1 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]s_3_2_x_Branch/6/ | |
| 02:24 | Koha_Docs_Master_Branch: last build: 56 (7 days 1 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/56/ | |
| 02:24 | Koha_Master(BUILDING: 12 min and counting): last build: 352 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/352/ | |
| 02:25 | mtj | !hudson help |
| 02:25 | hudsonbot | Available commands: |
| 02:25 | abort <job> - specify which job to abort | |
| 02:25 | alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases | |
| 02:25 | botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom | |
| 02:25 | build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period | |
| 02:25 | comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build | |
| 02:25 | h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | q - show the state of the build queue | |
| 02:25 | queue - show the state of the build queue | |
| 02:25 | s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | bshum left #koha | |
| 02:25 | hudsonbot | schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period |
| 02:25 | status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs | |
| 02:25 | userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user | |
| 02:25 | mtj | oooh, nice help |
| 02:25 | druthb | ibot: jcamins? |
| 02:25 | wahanui | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
| 02:26 | druthb | ibot: sekjal? |
| 02:26 | wahanui | somebody said sekjal was a wonderful geek. |
| 02:26 | rangi | heh did we scare bshum off |
| 02:26 | druthb | rebooting. :) |
| 02:26 | sekjal | rangi: he's having some networking troubles, we think |
| 02:27 | rangi | ahh |
| 02:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3009' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8326a33a21638338b> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b212d5333852dd41f> / Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
| 02:27 | rangi | windows? |
| 02:27 | wahanui | windows is only version 7 |
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| 02:29 | rangi | wb bshum |
| 02:29 | bshum | rangi: Thanks. Wifi is being mean to me :( |
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| 02:37 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #353: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/353/ |
| 02:37 | Brice Sanchez: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle | |
| 02:37 | Starting build 354 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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| 02:47 | * druthb | gets out the Velcro for bshum. |
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| 03:04 | kmkale | namaskar #koha |
| 03:04 | rangi | namaste kmkale |
| 03:05 | druthb | namaste, kmkale. |
| 03:05 | kmkale | kia ora chris |
| 03:05 | Good morning druthb | |
| 03:05 | did I get that right chris? | |
| 03:06 | rangi | you sure did |
| 03:07 | kmkale | :) |
| 03:10 | @weather Mumbai | |
| 03:10 | huginn | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 22.0�C (8:10 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:12 | eythian | > Conditions: Smoke. |
| 03:12 | wut? | |
| 03:14 | kmkale | too many vehicles |
| 03:14 | space_librarian | smoggy |
| 03:16 | eythian | but 'smoke'? It makes it sound like Perth or something. |
| 03:17 | druthb | @weather bloomington, in |
| 03:17 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Bloomington, Indiana is -11.6�C (10:20 PM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:18 | kmkale | actually its really pleasant. Not smokey or smoggy at all |
| 03:18 | eythian | heh |
| 03:18 | kmkale | had a nice drive to office |
| 03:24 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #354: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/354/ |
| 03:24 | * koha-preprod: Bug 5629 : Adding an HTML anchor in the link in order to choose the right tab when we click on the link | |
| 03:24 | * koha-preprod: Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. | |
| 03:24 | * Koustubha Kale: Adding id tags to some OPAC templates. | |
| 03:24 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default | |
| 03:24 | * druthb | cheers wildly |
| 03:25 | rangi | 0 in the signed off queue now |
| 03:26 | druthb | yay! |
| 03:33 | kmkale | 5712 must have one of the fastest patches created, signed-off and pushed ;) thanks to chris and owen |
| 03:34 | rangi | it was easy, cos it cant really break anything :) |
| 03:35 | kmkale | :) |
| 03:52 | sekjal | rangi: bug 5716? |
| 03:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5716 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Whitespace correction for browse shelf link |
| 03:54 | rangi | yep, wasnt marked signed off, but i fixed that |
| 03:55 | (they dont show up in my list if they arent marked signed off) | |
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| 04:10 | sekjal | my fault on that one... still have to mentally add that to my workflow |
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| 04:38 | indradg | @weather kolkata |
| 04:38 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 25.0�C (9:50 AM IST on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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| 04:57 | sekjal | alright, it's tomorrow, time for sleeps |
| 04:57 | g'night, #koha! | |
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| 05:34 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:38 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 05:54 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
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| 07:04 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:13 | cait | hi francharb |
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| 07:45 | mtj | a random perl Q.... |
| 07:46 | how do i load text into a $scalar until XXXX | |
| 07:46 | something like =cut or EOL/EOF ? | |
| 07:48 | magnuse | kia ora, #koha |
| 07:49 | mtj | ah, print <<EOF; |
| 07:49 | magnuse | mtj: http://perl.about.com/od/perlt[…]t/perlheredoc.htm ? |
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| 07:50 | mtj | ta magnuse :) |
| 07:52 | magnuse | mtj: or more appropriate, perhaps - look for "<<EOF" here: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop[…]te-like-Operators |
| 07:52 | bonjour hdl! | |
| 07:52 | hdl | hi magnuse |
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| 08:04 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:09 | hdl | hi kf |
| 08:10 | kf | hi hdl :) |
| 08:10 | hdl | magnuse: it is called heredocs |
| 08:10 | mtj | heya folks |
| 08:11 | magnuse: hdl - thanx heredocs worked well | |
| 08:17 | magnuse is now known as magnus_breakfast | |
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| 08:23 | kf | hah - the perl book already works. I know what a heredoc is (since yesterday) |
| 08:23 | * kf | waves to magnus_breakfast |
| 08:23 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 08:23 | paul_p | 'morning everybody |
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| 08:30 | kf | hi jo, were you able to sort out your numbers and calculations? |
| 08:31 | jransom | hi Katrin |
| 08:32 | i'm still standing and still have a job | |
| 08:32 | kf | this whole borrower message structure is a bit insane |
| 08:32 | that's good to hear, but they would be crazy to fire you | |
| 08:33 | and the first comment was not directed to you - only trying to find out how to make this work | |
| 08:33 | jransom | yep. |
| 08:33 | the accountant was really gracious actually | |
| 08:34 | said so long as we have identified the mistake and I have a solution to fix it we'll be fine ... just have to work through it. | |
| 08:35 | kf | so it will be ok? |
| 08:36 | jransom | yep. |
| 08:36 | phew :) | |
| 08:37 | kf | :) |
| 08:37 | jransom | babe, I have to go help my son do his homework. |
| 08:37 | cya | |
| 08:40 | kf | cya |
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| 08:46 | hdl | hi jransom |
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| 08:53 | paul_p | kf & magnus_breakfast : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blo[…]om-apr-4th-to-8th |
| 08:54 | magnus_breakfast is now known as magnuse | |
| 08:56 | magnuse | paul_p: sounds really cool! |
| 08:56 | jransom | waves at hdl and paul and magnus |
| 08:57 | hudsonbot | Starting build 355 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:57 | magnuse | kia ora jransom! how are the plans for Te Takere coming along? |
| 08:58 | kf | paul_p: yep - really cool |
| 08:58 | paul_p: traduction = translation? | |
| 09:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a7aa7e3649f20d0b> |
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| 09:12 | hdl | kf: yes |
| 09:15 | jransom | its looking really good |
| 09:15 | consulattion (yes - another round) finishes Saturday. | |
| 09:16 | but the councillors are right behind it and getting lots of positive feedback | |
| 09:16 | magnuse | jransom: cool! |
| 09:18 | paul_p | magnuse, right. traduction=translation. Fixed |
| 09:19 | magnuse | paul_p: that was kf, not me ;-) |
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| 09:19 | magnuse | hiya kmkale! |
| 09:19 | kmkale | hi magnuse |
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| 09:21 | * magnuse | agrees with paul_p: never underestimate the power of eye-candy... |
| 09:22 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #355: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/355/ |
| 09:22 | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf | |
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| 09:49 | kf | magnuse: yeah, but colors are difficult - having some different stylsheets to choose from is probably best |
| 09:49 | grey/black/white are nice and neutral, whatever corporate design your institution has | |
| 09:49 | magnuse | kf: yeah, choice would be good |
| 09:50 | it could be different themes, blue, green, grey etc | |
| 09:53 | if we decided on one "palette" of a handful of colours and applied it to different elements it shouldn't be too hard to replace it with another "palette" that applied to the same elements just with different colours... | |
| 09:53 | but then, i'm no designer... | |
| 09:55 | kf | magnus: EAN :) |
| 09:55 | yep, for the colors - this is what I had in mind | |
| 09:56 | or even make the palette configurable like other software does | |
| 09:56 | so you could choose a handful of colors that will be used in the stylesheet | |
| 09:57 | magnus: I was thinking EAN could be an ID for dvds | |
| 09:59 | magnuse | kf: it probably can, but do libraries put that in their records? |
| 09:59 | kf: yeah, having the colours configurable through the web ui would be very cool! | |
| 10:00 | letting individual librarians set their own palette would be cool too! ;-) | |
| 10:00 | kf | individual settings would be cool in a lot of places |
| 10:00 | like search preferences in advanced search | |
| 10:00 | individual default settings for frameworks and such | |
| 10:00 | I had a presentation where they asked for that | |
| 10:02 | magnuse | it would probably introduce a whole new level of complexity, but yes, it would be a good "selling point" |
| 10:08 | kf | yeah, let's start with stylesheet per library :) |
| 10:08 | library = installation | |
| 10:09 | magnuse | how hard can it be? ;-) |
| 10:17 | kf | hehe |
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| 10:35 | hdl | kf EAN is a number identifying CDs and DVDs |
| 10:35 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E[…]an_Article_Number | |
| 10:36 | * magnuse | had a vision of the OPAC as a social network this morning - give users a profile page and let them show off recent comments, stars and things added to lists - lett them connect with other users and display recent activity from their connections... |
| 10:37 | kf | hdl: thx - that was what I thought - but not sure about cataloging practice |
| 10:38 | magnuse: have you read the evergreen 2.0 feature list? | |
| 10:38 | magnuse | we use a program called DVD Profiler (http://invelos.com/dvdpro/Info.aspx) to keep track of our DVDs/Blu-rays, and that program is based around EANs |
| 10:39 | kf: nope | |
| 10:39 | kf | "There is backend code support for a method to allow patrons to link their records in a way that grant privileges. This could be utilized in future implementations for social networking features. " |
| 10:39 | not sure about the concept | |
| 10:39 | http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]=feature_list_2_0 | |
| 10:40 | magnuse | not sure i understand "link their records in a way that grant privileges"... |
| 10:47 | kf | yeah, same problem here |
| 10:48 | perhals let users see something? | |
| 10:48 | let ohter users see my lists/recommendations/comments | |
| 10:49 | magnuse | yeah, maybe |
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| 12:18 | slef | kmkale (or anyone else near that part of the world): do you offer distance Koha training in English? |
| 12:18 | kmkale | slef: yes we can |
| 12:18 | slef | kmkale: would you msg me with details, please, or a URL to a page about it? |
| 12:19 | kmkale | slef: I dont have a page. Could you tell me a bit more about it? For library staff is it? or installation and configuration stuff? |
| 12:20 | slef | kmkale: doing so in private, thanks. |
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| 12:33 | slef | @marc 001 |
| 12:33 | huginn | slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
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| 12:34 | slef | @marc 008 |
| 12:34 | huginn | slef: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
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| 12:44 | marcelr | hi all, anyone having seen problem of having no marc details for a record in staff client in current master? |
| 12:44 | jcamins_away | marcelr: doesn't ring any bells. |
| 12:44 | jcamins_away is now known as jcamins | |
| 12:44 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 12:45 | marcelr | there was some reverting done on marcdetail.pl |
| 12:45 | kmkale | hi jcamins |
| 12:46 | jwagner | Morning, all |
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| 13:10 | jwagner | Can anyone confirm -- for the -library option on the overdue notices, can you enter multiple libraries like -library BRANCHA,BRANCHB etc.? |
| 13:10 | Or would you need to cron the branches separately? | |
| 13:11 | I _think_ from looking at the code you'd have to cron them separately. | |
| 13:17 | * kf | waves to marcelr |
| 13:17 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 13:17 | * jcamins | waves to kf |
| 13:17 | kf | I wrote you a minute ago |
| 13:17 | * kf | waves to jacmins :) |
| 13:17 | marcelr | yes saw it |
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| 13:18 | kf | hope it's helpful |
| 13:18 | marcelr | will look into it, thanks |
| 13:19 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 13:19 | hdl | jwagner: you would have to use -library BRANCHA -library BRANCHB |
| 13:19 | kf | I really appreciate your patches and xslt work |
| 13:19 | jwagner | hdl, thanks! |
| 13:19 | marcelr | ok |
| 13:20 | hdl | I don't remember whether patch done were pushed in master |
| 13:20 | jcamins | marcelr++ # I also appreciate the XSLT improvements |
| 13:20 | marcelr | well.. |
| 13:21 | jcamins | @karma marcel_de_rooy |
| 13:21 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "marcel_de_rooy" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 13:21 | jcamins | marcelr++ |
| 13:21 | marcelr++ # since I've been giving your karma to the wrong nick | |
| 13:23 | sekjal | morning, #koha! |
| 13:23 | slef | hi sekjal |
| 13:23 | * slef | goes to lunch |
| 13:23 | marcelr | koha, i updated #5462 for not showing the marc details in current master |
| 13:24 | hdl | jwagner: daae4090e3a1e716495dd505c68b758dc25ac05a this patch on our git |
| 13:25 | jwagner | hdl, ? |
| 13:25 | hdl | jwagner: since I cannot confirm this patch was pushed. I let you know what we did to allow multiple libraries. |
| 13:26 | jwagner | Oh, OK. I'll see if I can tell |
| 13:26 | Do you have a URL to that page on your git repo? | |
| 13:28 | hdl | http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]791056e54;hb=HEAD |
| 13:28 | It contains all our devs and bug fixes on overdue_notices. | |
| 13:30 | jwagner | Thanks much! |
| 13:31 | hdl | you are welcome |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Hm, so template toolkit can't handle a TMPL varialbe beginning with a number? |
| 13:32 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]98f3aef52d#patch2 | |
| 13:33 | hdl | :S |
| 13:34 | oleonard | That change to MARCdetail.tmpl seems to have been made without a corresponding change to MARCdetail.pl |
| 13:35 | marcelr | seems to be the case, yes |
| 13:37 | * oleonard | has a fix |
| 13:41 | oleonard | Patch sent |
| 13:42 | marcelr | oleonard: could you attach it to the bug? |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Done |
| 13:43 | marcelr | ok, will test it now |
| 13:47 | oleonard | Thanks marcelr |
| 13:54 | jwagner | hdl, it looks like at least the parts of your commit that allow the multiple branchcodes are in current head. Not sure about the entire commit, but I see the line: my @branchcodes; # Branch(es) passed as parameter |
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| 14:06 | oleonard | Can anyone tell me how to create the conditions to duplicate bug 5723? |
| 14:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5723 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, tiny 'continued by' font with xslt on in staff client |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | doesn't know how "continues" and "continued by" work |
| 14:06 | jcamins | oleonard: didn't we already fix that? |
| 14:07 | It's caused by using a self-closing tag. | |
| 14:07 | Firefox doesn't like that. | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | nengard filed the bug yesterday |
| 14:07 | I think we fixed it for some other circumstance? | |
| 14:08 | jcamins | Yeah, that might be. |
| 14:08 | I'll try and find an example record. | |
| 14:08 | Ooh, I bet I know what the problem is- the fix was for OPAC only. | |
| 14:09 | Bug 4928 | |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4928 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, camins, RESOLVED FIXED, With multiple 76x-78x fields, the font display gets progressively smaller |
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| 14:11 | jcamins | I'm not sure I can think of any example records for you off the top of my head. |
| 14:11 | oleonard | jcamins: Since you supplied the original fix can I assign this new one to you? |
| 14:11 | jcamins | Sure. |
| 14:29 | * oleonard | is pleased to discover he can tab-complete git stash apply |
| 14:35 | oleonard | Wow, Inbox 5. |
| 14:36 | jcamins | Lucky. I'm at, like, Inbox One Billion. |
| 14:36 | * oleonard | feels the gravitational pull of jcamins' inbox |
| 14:37 | * jcamins | does too |
| 14:37 | magnus_away | inbox 2, todo-list one billion... |
| 14:38 | kmkale | bye all. good night |
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| 14:43 | jcamins | I am cautiously optimistic about my sourdough starter... hooray for my new apartment! |
| 14:44 | oleonard | Your apartment is sourdough starter-friendly? |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:45 | In my old apartment, anything without live yeast grew mold. | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | jcamins: Do you create your own starter or do you have one that you've nurtured? |
| 14:46 | jcamins | oleonard: I'm trying to get a starter going. |
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| 14:46 | jcamins | Then I will nurture it through the decades and it will grow old with me. :) |
| 14:47 | magnus_away | how sweet... ;-) |
| 14:48 | jcamins | magnus_away: sour, actually. ;) |
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| 14:48 | magnuse | hehe |
| 14:50 | oleonard | jcamins: Are you following a recipe for your starter? |
| 14:50 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, I have a textbook, Professional Baking by Wayn Gisslen, that I use. |
| 14:50 | oleonard | Wow, a textbook! |
| 14:51 | jcamins | oleonard: it's fantastic. |
| 14:51 | I also have Bernard Clayton's book of breads, but the textbook is a lot more consistent. | |
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| 14:52 | oleonard | I should suggest that my local library get that |
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| 14:53 | jcamins | oleonard: do you bake bread? |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Rarely, but I love sourdough pancakes |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Oooh. |
| 14:54 | I bet those would be easy... start them a day in advance and let them ferment a bit. | |
| 14:55 | sekjal | idea: keyword authority records |
| 14:55 | jcamins | sekjal: a good idea, but first we need subfield authority records. |
| 14:56 | oleonard | sekjal: I'm sorry, how does that relate to this very important discussion of food? :P |
| 14:56 | jcamins | oleonard: it will allow us to relate the keyword "yummy" to the subject "sourdough bread." |
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| 14:58 | sekjal | keyword search on "yummy" also does a search on "delicious", "tasty", "scrumptious" and "mmmmmm" |
| 15:04 | magnuse | sekjal: have you found a bug number for the lexile-patch? |
| 15:04 | sekjal | magnuse: I don't think a bug report was filed |
| 15:05 | jcamins | I'm confused. |
| 15:05 | Isn't lexile search already available? | |
| 15:06 | lex:? | |
| 15:06 | magnuse | there's a patch submitted about a year ago, but it doesn't seem to have been accepted/integrated |
| 15:07 | at least as far as i could see... | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | magnuse: the thing is, I'm looking in my git log, and it's right there. |
| 15:07 | It's also functioning. | |
| 15:07 | Look in record.abs. | |
| 15:08 | What's confusing me is that I know I've had this conversation before, and I can't figure out why it's in my system and no one else's. | |
| 15:09 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]272b17e67b2b3db8e | |
| 15:11 | So the question is... what am I doing that is resulting in that feature being in my Koha codebase? | |
| 15:12 | magnuse | ah, looks like that sets up the index, but there is noe way to select it for searching in e.g. advanced search? |
| 15:12 | jcamins | Ah-ha! |
| 15:12 | That's what I'm doing. | |
| 15:12 | jquer. | |
| 15:12 | *jQuery | |
| 15:13 | $("select[name='idx']").append("<option value='lex'>Lexile</option>"); | |
| 15:14 | magnuse: thanks. Now I know that I'm not going completely crazy. | |
| 15:14 | magnuse | jcamins: np ;-) |
| 15:16 | does that just allow you to search for one exact lexile value, or can you search for bigger than, less than, between x and y? | |
| 15:16 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:16 | That's keyword mapping. | |
| 15:16 | *matching | |
| 15:18 | magnuse | ? |
| 15:19 | jcamins | The way I did the jQuery. |
| 15:19 | Sorry, my head is *very* fuzzy from Sudafed. | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | He's totally high on sourdough fumes |
| 15:20 | jcamins | oleonard: heh. |
| 15:21 | magnuse | ooh, addictive stuff, that |
| 15:29 | jcamins | kf: do you know anything about getting branch information to appear in notices? |
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| 15:36 | fcapo | Hello, I have a problem with the merge_authority.pl script. It always seems to return an error when I run it witht he -b option : |
| 15:36 | Merging | |
| 15:36 | {_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/lib/perl5/ZOOM.pm line 341. | |
| 15:37 | Anybody got a solution or a fix? | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Not me, sorry. |
| 15:39 | fcapo | Almost forgot: Koha version 3.02.03.001 |
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| 15:41 | Nate_ | Hello #koha! |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Good morning. |
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| 15:48 | tcohen | hi, what permission enables the user (on staff interface) to edit circulation rules? |
| 15:52 | oleonard | I would think parameters - Set Koha system parameters |
| 15:53 | Yes, that's the one. | |
| 15:54 | It's easy to test: revoke that permission and see if you can get to the admin pages | |
| 15:56 | tcohen | oleonard: thanks, i don't have right now my testing koha running |
| 15:57 | this permissions should be more granular I think | |
| 15:58 | oleonard | hdl or paul_p, do you have some patches pending for that? |
| 15:59 | hdl | It has been there for a while iirc |
| 16:01 | tcohen | ps -ef | grep zebrasrv | grep -v grep | grep -v daemon -c |
| 16:01 | 26 | |
| 16:02 | got them all working on a vm from the storage server :-D | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Where does Koha put the messaging logs? |
| 16:03 | tcohen | on the same partition on the storage |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Oh, message_queue? |
| 16:03 | tcohen: that was a general question, not for you. ;) | |
| 16:04 | tcohen | jcamins: sorry! |
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| 16:04 | tcohen | I think it reports to STDOUT only |
| 16:05 | jcamins | It stays in message_queue, it looks like. |
| 16:07 | Hm. | |
| 16:08 | Why would an e-mail be generated if to_address were NULL? | |
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| 16:14 | gmcharlt | jcamins: the message queue processor can pick the email address up from the patron's record |
| 16:14 | jcamins | gmcharlt: ah. So that doesn't necessarily mean that the e-mail was lost in the ether. |
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| 16:14 | gmcharlt | right |
| 16:15 | kf | jcamins: see your question - which notices? |
| 16:16 | overdue should work with the branches table | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Renewal notice. |
| 16:16 | No, wait. | |
| 16:16 | Item now due. | |
| 16:17 | kf | item due - not sure. I think I have the branch address hardcoded in there (one branch library) |
| 16:17 | I know that some notices don#t work with the branches table | |
| 16:17 | but not sure now which :( have you checked bugzilla? | |
| 16:18 | and yes, it's message_queue | |
| 16:18 | jcamins | I'll look in bugzilla. |
| 16:18 | kf | there is also an entry for the print message to the library - that's the one with no email address |
| 16:18 | jcamins | I figured you'd know off the top of your head. |
| 16:18 | kf | I know it works for overdue - I was testing that recently |
| 16:19 | I would love to see some work there - there is also a problem with the new <item> syntax | |
| 16:19 | you can't get date from the issues table - so no due date | |
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| 16:32 | hdl | Is slef the only one interested on data persistence. |
| 16:33 | slef | REPLY TO THE EMAIL, PEOPLE :) |
| 16:33 | * slef | is less subtle than hdl |
| 16:33 | magnuse | hdl: i'm interested as an observer, but that shouldn't affect when a meeting is held... |
| 16:34 | kf | hdl: not my programming level |
| 16:34 | hdl: not about not being interested in getting that fixed, will probably lurk when there is a meeting | |
| 16:34 | hdl | I knew irc was a bad place for that call |
| 16:35 | kf | hm? |
| 16:35 | hdl | I mean the devel list should be the place. |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | slef: have you seen bigbluebutton.org |
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| 16:49 | slef | wizzyrea: yes, but I don't remember it. Shall I look again? |
| 16:49 | :) | |
| 16:50 | I think long-term webmastering screws up one's memory :) | |
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| 16:50 | wizzyrea | well it's a FLOSS online meeting software, looks pretty cool, but I don't know how accessible it is |
| 16:50 | I was mostly curious as to whether you had any opinions on it :) | |
| 16:50 | slef | "Alternate HTML content should be placed here. This content requires the Adobe Flash Player. Get Flash" |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | well, that about answers that |
| 16:51 | slef | It's not FLOSS for the client. |
| 16:51 | Actually, might be. I can try it with my browser that has the Gnash plugin later. | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | indeed... when are we gonna kick this flash habit we've got going |
| 16:51 | slef | but that's on another floor just now |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | we=the interwebs and it's denizens |
| 16:51 | np np | |
| 16:52 | slef | yeah, I was lamenting elsewhere that video is a solved problem, so why don't any webinar tools seem to use one of those solutions yet |
| 16:52 | I think it's probably a tribute to the perceived ease of "just use adobe". | |
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| 17:14 | drulms | Hello all |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Hi drulms |
| 17:18 | drulms | Everything ready for 3.2.3 - everything, SIP too ! |
| 17:18 | But not the public facing Z39.50 | |
| 17:18 | My config is: | |
| 17:18 | <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> | |
| 17:19 | In koha-conf.xml, but I get this error when trying to connect through the zebra-client: | |
| 17:19 | Z> open localhost:2100/biblios Connecting...OK. Sent initrequest. Connection rejected by v3 target. ID : 81 Name : GFS/YAZ Version: 4.1.3 3ec3ad2bd1e248022bbb7c9d762844bef7f8a461 Init response contains 1 otherInfo unit: 1: otherInfo unit contains 1 diagnostic: 1: code=1 (Permanent system error), addinfo='' Options: search present triggerResourceC | |
| 17:20 | Connection rejected by v4 target ??? Anyone know what any of this means? | |
| 17:20 | magnuse | drulms: could it be related to this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5667 ? |
| 17:20 | huginn | 04Bug 5667: minor, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, koha-conf.xml missing entry for z39.50 publicserver |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | oh that could def be it, no server but a listening ID |
| 17:21 | drulms | I added the <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:@:2100</listen> (and commented it out) and restarted zebra - still no dice |
| 17:22 | should there be a way for me to fix it? | |
| 17:23 | zebra search works fine | |
| 17:23 | from Koha | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | right, that's outgoing |
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| 17:25 | drulms | So it should work, correct? |
| 17:27 | hudsonbot | Starting build 98 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72c5d609dda6f9844> / Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59b9000b94f9d6aa1> / Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. <http://g |
| 17:35 | magnuse | drulms: it's been a while since i did it, but i seem to remember having to copy both <server id="biblioserver" listenref="biblioserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="biblioserver">...</serverinfo> and then replacing those three occurences of "biblioserver" with "publicserver" so you get <server id="publicserver" listenref="publicserver">...</server> and <serverinfo id="publicserver">...</serverinfo> |
| 17:36 | and then restart zebra | |
| 17:36 | drulms | hmmmm, so I wonder if anyone has the Z39.50 public server working in Koha 3.2? |
| 17:37 | magnuse: I suppose I can try that | |
| 17:37 | jcamins | drulms: it works on master, certainly. |
| 17:38 | magnuse | drulms: good luck, i gotta run :-) |
| 17:38 | drulms | jacmins: on master? |
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| 17:38 | drulms | magnuse: Thank you! |
| 17:45 | jcamins: This makes the Z39.50 server work, but now the Koha search does not work ! :) | |
| 17:45 | (after restarting zebra) | |
| 17:45 | heh | |
| 17:46 | jcamins | drulms: Hm. |
| 17:46 | I know it can be done. | |
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| 17:48 | drulms | jcamins: Authority searching works however |
| 17:48 | jcamins | Ooh! I think I might know this one... change the port? |
| 17:48 | drulms | So it seems like a one or the other thing |
| 17:48 | I changed the port to 2100 | |
| 17:48 | is that the probs? | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | I'm not sure. I wouldn't think that port would be a problem. |
| 17:49 | sekjal: welcome back. We're troubleshooting a Zebra server that won't work with both public Zebra and Koha at the same time. | |
| 17:49 | sekjal | which server |
| 17:50 | jcamins | drulms' 3.2. |
| 17:50 | drulms: which version of 3.2? | |
| 17:50 | sekjal | I have a suspicion |
| 17:50 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #98: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/98/ |
| 17:50 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 2742 Correct language names in install | |
| 17:50 | * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.002 | |
| 17:50 | * Fr?d?rick Capovilla: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews | |
| 17:50 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 2742 : Fix typo | |
| 17:50 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed | |
| 17:50 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5726 : MT1059 Follow-up : Fix merge reference selection presentation | |
| 17:50 | * Paul Poulain: adding some copyright BibLibre statements | |
| 17:50 | * Brice Sanchez: Bug 5702 : Adding if statement condition to highlight toggle | |
| 17:50 | * koha-preprod: Bug 5629 : Adding an HTML anchor in the link in order to choose the right tab when we click on the link | |
| 17:50 | * koha-preprod: Add markers to text in Javascript variable in order to be translate. | |
| 17:50 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 3009 - Change items.content field so it prints due date by default | |
| 17:50 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5716 - Whitespace correction for browse shelf | |
| 17:50 | sekjal | would need to see the koha-conf.xml to confirm |
| 17:52 | drulms | 3.2.3 of course :) |
| 17:52 | sekjal | does the <serverinfo> tag after the <server id="publicserver"> also have id="publicserver"? |
| 17:53 | I know when I implemented open Z39.50, it was a massive copy/paste job from the regular biblioserver, and I didn't make that change at first. | |
| 17:55 | drulms | OK, I got it! |
| 17:55 | Ah, sekjal answered my question | |
| 17:55 | sekjal | that was it? |
| 17:56 | drulms | I just copied the entire biblioserver block with the serverinfo block and then renamed the 3 tags to public server |
| 17:56 | sekjal | huzzah! |
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| 18:05 | drulms | I mean publicserver (one word) |
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| 18:08 | fcapo | hum... I got a problem when fetching records from a Canadian Z39.50 server. Accented characters are returned incorrectly :/ |
| 18:08 | For example, I receive é when I should have é | |
| 18:08 | jcamins | fcapo: those look the same to me. |
| 18:08 | e-with-acute | |
| 18:09 | fcapo | yea, but the first one is a non-zebra searchable, decomposed version of the accented character |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Ah. Right. That. |
| 18:10 | It seems that ICU chains is the best solution to searchable diacritics. Unfortunately I can't give you instructions on setting them up. | |
| 18:11 | fcapo | When we did our first record import, we did a conversion on our records with MarcEdit to get composed accented characters (canonical composition) |
| 18:11 | drulms | fcapo - thank I cannot help with |
| 18:11 | thanks everyone - have a good one(s) | |
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| 18:13 | fcapo | I might be able modify Koha so that it does the canonical composition on the Z39.50 search results. But I don't know if it would be a good idea. |
| 18:14 | jcamins | fcapo: I think the conclusion was that it wouldn't be a good idea. |
| 18:14 | Because Zebra lies about what sort of data it's returning. | |
| 18:14 | fcapo | :( |
| 18:15 | sekjal | ICU chains would let you search 'e' and get 'é' |
| 18:15 | whether the marc record is normalized for composition or decomposition, that's not dealt with | |
| 18:16 | fcapo | ok... but the non-composed version of the characters look strange in the browser. And copy-pasting these characters and putting them in a search might not work |
| 18:16 | sekjal | but searching in Zebra is just much nicer with ICU chains |
| 18:17 | fcapo: yes | |
| 18:17 | fcapo | I don't know how our client's old system did it, but the accented characters were shown correctly while they were stored in non-composed format |
| 18:18 | sekjal | we'd need to normalize the marc before displaying it... good, but much more difficult than to implement than ICU chains |
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| 18:21 | fcapo | Right now, we did the normalization with MarcEdit before passing them to bulkmarcimport and it's working fine... |
| 18:21 | The only problem is when a user wants to create a new records from Z39.50 :/ | |
| 18:22 | cait | not sure where this discussion started - but sounds very familiar |
| 18:22 | jcamins | cait: feeling a sense of deja vu? |
| 18:22 | :) | |
| 18:22 | cait | yep |
| 18:23 | I think I was really getting on peoples nerves with my normalization issues | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | You think _you_ were? It's a miracle Ian still speaks to me with all my whining. ;) |
| 18:23 | cait | fcapo: we do the same, normalize before import, z3950 is a problem (german umlauts), but our records are always overwritten through nightly imports - so the problem is temporary. |
| 18:23 | it would be great if the records could be normalized during import | |
| 18:24 | fcapo | One of my coworker might have asked the same questions a while ago too, that's how we got the MarcEdit normalization idea. |
| 18:24 | cait | it's a common problem I think |
| 18:24 | if I understood you right and we are talking about unicode normalization forms | |
| 18:24 | sekjal | aside from current Code4Lib presentation: compass-style.org.... for maintaining CSS with logic |
| 18:25 | fcapo | yep |
| 18:25 | cait | the problem we have with umluats is wrong display in the browser |
| 18:26 | fcapo | Right now we have a problem with new records from Z39.50 searchs being non-searchable because of decomposed accented characters. |
| 18:26 | cait | and we have still problems with ß and other diacritics - still not sure if the problem is on side of union catalog or koha |
| 18:26 | fcapo: right | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Do we have a list of new features that have been developed since Koha 3.2.0 was released? |
| 18:26 | fcapo | and they also look wrong :P |
| 18:27 | cait | fcapo: I think there is no solution in koha for that right now - and it's one of the reasons I think solving it for display is not enough |
| 18:27 | having only one form in the database is preferable | |
| 18:27 | fcapo | cait : yes, that's my goal |
| 18:28 | cait | jcamins: I think not - I started one with new features, but lost track |
| 18:28 | jcamins: perhaps nicole? she updated the documentation for some things | |
| 18:29 | jcamins | cait: that's what I thought. Thanks. So much happened that we lost track, too. |
| 18:31 | cait | i have three items on my list :( |
| 18:32 | * new text block in opac for no results page | |
| 18:32 | * ppn in acq | |
| 18:32 | ppn = control number | |
| 18:33 | * control-number as parameter in the opac search box | |
| 18:33 | not much | |
| 18:34 | fcapo | I think I'll just try to use Unicode::Normalize on my Z39.50 search results. Don't have much to lose. |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Ooh, thanks, forgot about the no results page. |
| 18:35 | cait | jcamins: :) |
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| 18:49 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:50 | rhcl | hi rangi |
| 18:50 | cait | hi rangi |
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| 18:56 | fcapo | Ok, using SetUTF8Flag on the every record returned by the Z39.50 search does fix my problem. |
| 18:56 | cait | will you send a patch? |
| 18:57 | fcapo | Dunno, I'm unsure it's a good solution |
| 19:00 | cait | me neither - but I would like to test it for our records :) |
| 19:00 | rangi | How about adding an isutf8 test |
| 19:00 | Before setting the flag | |
| 19:01 | fcapo | Well, its right after a call to MarcToUTF8Record... |
| 19:01 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 19:01 | fcapo | The record is already UTF8, I just use that subroutine because it does the normalization on every subfield of the record. |
| 19:03 | rangi | why not do it in the subroutine then? |
| 19:03 | Ie if you are getting back an incorrect record from that sub | |
| 19:04 | Do we have a normalisesubfields syspref? | |
| 19:05 | fcapo | rangi : do it in which subroutine? |
| 19:05 | rangi | MarcToUTF8Record |
| 19:06 | cait | rangi: no sysprefs about unicode normalization |
| 19:07 | rangi | Maybe if we think there might be a reason not to normalise we could do that, but is suspect we always want normalised unicode, but I'm not 100% on that |
| 19:08 | * rangi | is on the bus before his morning coffee |
| 19:08 | rangi | So I might be talking rubbish |
| 19:09 | cait | we always want it - not sure about ohter languages |
| 19:09 | we do it on the import side from the beginning | |
| 19:09 | fcapo | rango :Well, I'm not 100% sure we always want normalized unicode, that's why I didn't touch the MarcToUTF8Record sub. |
| 19:10 | * sekjal | just load tested his dev box.... very discouraging |
| 19:10 | fcapo | ^^^ rangi* sorry |
| 19:10 | rangi | How about adding a switch then, normalise |
| 19:10 | If you pass that in, it normalises | |
| 19:11 | then if there is a place we don't want it, we don't pass that | |
| 19:11 | * rangi | just doesn't like big .pl files |
| 19:11 | rangi | All the work should be in .pm |
| 19:15 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 19:15 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:15 | rangi | Gonna be a nice day |
| 19:19 | Bbiab | |
| 19:20 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:20 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (8:00 PM CET on February 09, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:23 | druthb | Off to break, then breakouts! |
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| 19:26 | Brooke_ joined #koha | |
| 19:26 | Brooke_ | kia ora! |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | hi brooke :) |
| 19:26 | cait | hi Brooke |
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| 19:29 | fcapo | Is there a place where I could send experimental patches like the Z39.50 modification I just made? |
| 19:30 | jcamins | koha-patches |
| 19:30 | Just include in the commit message notes on your concerns. | |
| 19:33 | fcapo | Is there any help on how to send patches to koha-patchs? Never used a mailing list before :S |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | git? |
| 19:33 | wahanui | freaking rules |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | ^^ wow, that's funny |
| 19:34 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
| 19:34 | sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
| 19:34 | sending patches? | |
| 19:34 | wahanui | sending patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 19:35 | jcamins | wahanui: well done! |
| 19:35 | wahanui | jcamins: what? |
| 19:35 | fcapo | Thank you and sorry for my ignorance. |
| 19:35 | jcamins | fcapo: you need to be subscribed to the mailing list for your message to go through. |
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| 19:45 | * Brooke_ | waves to hdl |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Does Koha work with FastCGI? |
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| 20:02 | * Brooke_ | waves to space_librarian. |
| 20:02 | space_librarian | morning! |
| 20:03 | * space_librarian | blinks into her cup of coffee |
| 20:03 | ibeardslee | empty? |
| 20:03 | space_librarian | half full going to need a refill already |
| 20:04 | * ibeardslee | really does need to learn how to do decent coffee from our machines |
| 20:04 | Brooke_ | or you could get a one cup at a time jobby |
| 20:04 | those are saweet | |
| 20:05 | and they are verbooten in me house with good reason | |
| 20:05 | ibeardslee | because they are only one cup at a time? |
| 20:06 | space_librarian | one cup? like those nespresso thingymabobs |
| 20:06 | Brooke_ | no because they fab such a nice cuppa, I'd be wired 24/7 |
| 20:07 | space_librarian | mmmm.... good coffee. |
| 20:08 | jcamins | rangi: do you know anything about how the Koha packages configure Apache? |
| 20:09 | Apparently Apache on my VM is using way less memory than Apache on our servers. | |
| 20:09 | Like, an order of magnitude less. | |
| 20:16 | eythian | jcamins: it's me you probably want to talk to about that |
| 20:17 | but they don't really do anything funny | |
| 20:17 | jcamins | eythian: Wonderful! |
| 20:17 | Oh. | |
| 20:17 | eythian | the most funny is that they install the per-user thingamie |
| 20:17 | jcamins | You didn't disable particularly wasteful thing? |
| 20:17 | eythian | it's too early for me to remember what it's called |
| 20:17 | * eythian | checks |
| 20:17 | cait | eythian = new nick ? |
| 20:18 | eythian | cait: oh yeah |
| 20:18 | new channel, but I was already on this server with this nick | |
| 20:18 | and can't be arsed making two connections just for nick reasons. | |
| 20:18 | rangi | its a dfferent apache |
| 20:18 | thats the main different | |
| 20:18 | gah | |
| 20:18 | difference | |
| 20:18 | wahanui | difference is, like, merely that 008 uses defined value lists and 260 $a is merely transcribed from the material |
| 20:19 | eythian | jcamins: apache2-mpm-itk |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Uh-oh. Where did my data go? |
| 20:19 | rangi | yup, so that each virtual host can run as a different user |
| 20:19 | eythian | famous last words... |
| 20:19 | * jcamins | bangs his head against the desk. |
| 20:20 | jcamins | Anyway, thanks. I thought our servers were using that same Apache, but maybe not. |
| 20:20 | eythian | mpm-* is pretty much the same as the regular mpm, but allows for different system users. |
| 20:21 | rangi | i doubt you other ones are using itk |
| 20:21 | most likely worker | |
| 20:21 | eythian | *mpm-itk I mean |
| 20:21 | jcamins | We were just talking about seeing if worker was more efficient than itk, but maybe we had it backwards. |
| 20:22 | Data's back. :D | |
| 20:22 | eythian | jcamins: on a modern server, the difference should be negligible. |
| 20:22 | jcamins | InnoDB couldn't start with only 384MB/RAM. |
| 20:22 | eythian | oh ah |
| 20:22 | rangi | you need itk to be safe |
| 20:22 | hosting more than one koha | |
| 20:23 | eythian | There's been a request to allow it to not use itk, but I'm not sure how I'd make that work so that it worked properly in both cases. |
| 20:24 | rangi | oh who requested that? |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Wait... where's my data? |
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| 20:24 | * jcamins | sighs |
| 20:24 | rangi | youd probably have to disable the multi functions |
| 20:24 | eythian | s/Wait/Dude/ |
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| 20:24 | rangi | make 2 different packages |
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| 20:24 | rangi | would be the only way i could think of doing it |
| 20:24 | eythian | rangi: e.s. rosenberg |
| 20:24 | rangi | koha-multi |
| 20:24 | koha-single | |
| 20:24 | irmaB | g'day all |
| 20:24 | rangi | something like that |
| 20:25 | never heard of them | |
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| 20:25 | eythian | rangi: well, it'd be a different template really. The zebra users could stay, but the apache template would blow up on non-itk I think |
| 20:25 | Brooke_ | g'day Irma :D |
| 20:25 | rangi | eythian: yeah |
| 20:26 | irmaB | Brooke hi there :) |
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| 20:26 | rangi | heya Nate_ |
| 20:26 | hi irmaB | |
| 20:26 | irmaB | is chris_n still online? |
| 20:27 | hi rangi (what was the score last night) Wellington vs Sydney? | |
| 20:27 | chris_n | troubleshooting memory errors in a servers ipmi log, but here for a moment |
| 20:28 | slef | hi irmaB |
| 20:28 | * sijobl | wonders if Irma is just rubbing it in |
| 20:28 | sijobl | we've got a football team for sale, all reasonable offers considered :-) |
| 20:28 | irmaB | ah thanks chris_n ...about barcode labels: where can I change the batch limit of 20? |
| 20:29 | re football nah ...just curious | |
| 20:29 | sijobl | 2-0 to sydney was what I recall hearing in the radio |
| 20:30 | might have been 2-1 | |
| 20:30 | chris_n | irmaB: as in items per batch or total number of batches? |
| 20:30 | irmaB | no wonder not a peep was heard from my lounge :( |
| 20:30 | items per bath | |
| 20:30 | chris_n | afaik there is none |
| 20:30 | irmaB | batch |
| 20:31 | * chris_n | is looking at batches of over 40 items as we chat |
| 20:31 | irmaB | 20 keeps on popping up when i create a new batch |
| 20:31 | chris_n | are you referring to the batch ID? |
| 20:32 | * cait | waves to chrisdothall |
| 20:32 | chris_n | more_chrises++ |
| 20:33 | never mind the spelling :) | |
| 20:33 | irmaB | no, @ "add new items" |
| 20:34 | slef | they appear in pages of 20 |
| 20:34 | chris_n | ahh |
| 20:34 | slef | and yes, it's rather irritating :) |
| 20:34 | chris_n | that is a limitation of the search code which I did not write, only inherited and have tweaked from time to time |
| 20:35 | irmaB | Results 1 through 20 of 70 |
| 20:35 | slef | as in, I get complaints and hack it around, but not in any neat enough way for a patch. Not checked if that's still in 3.2 |
| 20:35 | chris_n | but I believe there is a bug open for it |
| 20:35 | irmaB | and yet when I print only 20 print |
| 20:35 | chris_n | basically |
| 20:35 | you have to page through the results and add all on each page... I think | |
| 20:35 | slef | irmaB: you're doing "add all" and it only adds those on-screen, right? |
| 20:35 | chris_n: that's correct, at least in 3.0 | |
| 20:36 | cait | and hi Irmab :) |
| 20:36 | chris_n | the same basic search code is used in 3.2 |
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| 20:36 | chris_n | cait scared her |
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| 20:37 | cait | no I didn't |
| 20:37 | chris_n | wb irmaB |
| 20:37 | cait | hi IrmaB :) |
| 20:37 | but can correct the typo now :) | |
| 20:37 | irmaB | hi again |
| 20:37 | hi cait :) | |
| 20:37 | Brooke_ | everyone <3s irmaB |
| 20:38 | irmaB | slef yes I select all but only 20 print (should be 70) |
| 20:39 | slef | irmaB: select all = select the visible, sadly |
| 20:39 | chris_n | irmaB: basically you have to: 'select all,' 'add checked,' next page, 'select all,' 'add checked,' ad infinitum |
| 20:40 | slef | chris_n: you near finding that bug number or shall I? |
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| 20:40 | chris_n | looking |
| 20:40 | * Brooke_ | waves to davi before heading to a meeting |
| 20:40 | irmaB | ok. Got it chris_n thanks. Will give it a try. |
| 20:41 | chris_n | bug 5656 |
| 20:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5656 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Add Checked only adding first checked item to batch |
| 20:41 | davi | hi Brooke_ |
| 20:41 | irmaB | waves goodbye to Brooke |
| 20:41 | davi | hi rangi |
| 20:41 | slef | chris_n: either that's missummarised or a different bug :( |
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| 20:42 | slef | chris_n: looks like a different bug |
| 20:42 | chris_n | ? |
| 20:42 | slef | "when I press the 'Add Checked' button on the top of that page only the first item is being added to the batch" |
| 20:42 | rangi | hi davi |
| 20:42 | irmaB | thanks slef and saw your email. Will answer after breakfat :) |
| 20:42 | slef | irmaB: thanks |
| 20:42 | rangi | davi: i have hte perfect patch for you to sign off on ;) |
| 20:42 | davi | great :) |
| 20:42 | chris_n | slef: is that not the problem irmaB was describing? |
| 20:43 | davi | let me know rangi |
| 20:43 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5682 |
| 20:43 | huginn | 04Bug 5682: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, POD in C4::Charset was wrong |
| 20:43 | slef | chris_n: no and not the problem you were describing either :) |
| 20:43 | davi | thanks rangi. Looking |
| 20:43 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 20:43 | * chris_n | is totally unfocused atm... sorry ;-) |
| 20:44 | chris_n | a file server with memory issues has me slightly distracted |
| 20:44 | slef | chris_n: no problem. I'm trying to do two things at once and failing to spot the bug irmaB describes in bugs either. |
| 20:44 | chris_n: is it making you forgetful? ;-) | |
| 20:44 | davi | ack rangi |
| 20:44 | chris_n | LOL |
| 20:44 | no, that is probably an age related problem... ;-) | |
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| 20:45 | slef | Actually, I don't think this bug is reported. :-( I'll see if it's in the RESOLVEDs and so on... |
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| 20:47 | slef | no, I can't find it at all... I fail :-( |
| 20:57 | irmaB | slef do you want me to report it? |
| 20:58 | Also, an other attemp to add the library's name above the barcode number failed. | |
| 20:59 | slef | irmaB: yes, please, as long as chris_n doesn't object |
| 21:01 | irmaB | in Bibliographic data to print, I choose : "items.homebranch items.barcode" in List Fields. |
| 21:02 | in new layout | |
| 21:02 | slef | I don't know about that. I've not played with the new labeller enough. |
| 21:02 | I used to hack the 3.0 one into submission. | |
| 21:02 | irmaB | chris_n perhaps? |
| 21:03 | yep that one way :) | |
| 21:04 | davi | I am creating my account and bugs.koha-community |
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| 21:04 | davi | rangi, about that patch I would say it is OK. I will review it a little more and then I will sign it |
| 21:04 | rangi | excellent |
| 21:04 | http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ | |
| 21:05 | there is a link there | |
| 21:05 | patches needing signoff | |
| 21:05 | anything in there is fair game :) | |
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| 21:05 | slef | Does anyone know what "Permanent Flag" means to a library? (bbl, sorry) |
| 21:09 | space_librarian | usually means when something is scanned a note will pop-up, and it can't be edited. like "this item cannot be checked out", etc. |
| 21:10 | that's how we used it in circ anyway... | |
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| 21:17 | davi | rangi, I have not got the email about account creation yet |
| 21:18 | rangi | account where? |
| 21:19 | davi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]createaccount.cgi |
| 21:21 | rangi | email is weird, theres about a million reasons why you may not have got it yet |
| 21:21 | davi | I created it with email david AT leals.com |
| 21:22 | after trying | |
| 21:23 | Reset password and getting the message: There is no user named ' david AT leals dot com'. Either you mis-typed the name or that user has not yet registered for a Bugzilla account. | |
| 21:23 | Any hint? | |
| 21:25 | rangi | no idea, seesm to work for everyone else |
| 21:26 | davi | ok, I am going to try with another email |
| 21:31 | Now I have just got two email, one for each account creating. I will confirm only one | |
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| 22:24 | wizzyrea | koha does age calculations on the fly, correct? |
| 22:26 | and/or SIP Doesn't send age if asked, right? | |
| 22:30 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I think it just sends the birthdate, leaving it up to the SIP consumer to do the calculation |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | aha, interesting |
| 22:31 | I wonder if envisionware understands that, their code asks for "age" | |
| 22:31 | apparently | |
| 22:32 | from what I can grasp given that I can't actually look at it | |
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| 22:38 | wizzyrea | oh that's nice, the sip sends "greetings from koha" |
| 22:38 | very cute :) | |
| 22:45 | slef | space_librarian: thanks. I've got both Permanent and Circulate flags though :-/ |
| 22:46 | space_librarian | then it'll be permanant mark-ups like "this books has been stolen/pages are missing/etc" |
| 22:46 | this book... sp | |
| 22:47 | slef | it's just a flag, Y or N :-/ I think I'll map it to damaged |
| 22:47 | no, restricted | |
| 22:47 | if that's wrong, we'll rectify later :) | |
| 22:58 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
| 22:58 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
| 22:58 | * mtj | waves from the sunny coast |
| 23:00 | space_librarian | that sounds suitably logical |
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| 23:11 | rangi | its pizza thursday! |
| 23:11 | bbl | |
| 23:11 | space_librarian | bbl. Time to embarrass myself... |
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| 23:12 | mtj | go get 'em ;) |
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