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| 00:03 | nengard joined #koha | |
| 00:04 | nengard | hi all - i'm wondering if someone knows of a commit that recently changed the order in which the item fields appear in cataloging - when adding an item the fields aren't in alpha order anymore ..... |
| 00:43 | eythian | new koha packages uploaded, for anyone interested :) |
| 00:44 | rangi | yay |
| 00:44 | packages++ | |
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| 02:06 | jcamins_away | usb_hubs_on_external_monitors++ |
| 02:08 | nengard: One moment, I recall a bug report. | |
| 02:13 | nengard | jcamins - rangi helped me find it already |
| 02:13 | unless you mean another bug report | |
| 02:13 | jcamins_away | Oh, good. |
| 02:13 | Nope. | |
| 02:13 | nengard | :) |
| 02:13 | jcamins_away | I wasn't finding it anyway. |
| 02:13 | nengard | thanks though!! |
| 02:14 | rangi | found the commit that broke the ordering |
| 02:14 | now just have to fix it | |
| 02:17 | nengard | rangi what bug # was that - i can update the bug report if you want |
| 02:22 | rangi | 4263 |
| 02:25 | adding the sort bit didnt work? | |
| 02:36 | nengard | bug updated |
| 02:44 | brendan_ | evening |
| 02:46 | rangi | heya brendan_ |
| 02:46 | brendan_ | rangi - what's happening man :D |
| 02:47 | rangi | reading good press releases about masscat :) |
| 02:47 | * mtj | waves at brendan_ |
| 02:47 | brendan_ | heya mtj - |
| 02:47 | mtj | long time, no chat :p |
| 02:48 | brendan_ | yeah been off for awhile |
| 02:48 | I should be coming back a little bit slowly now though | |
| 02:48 | mtj | getting some sun, i hope |
| 02:49 | brendan_ | a little |
| 02:49 | :) | |
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| 04:12 | druthb | sekjal++ # for bein' a hero. |
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| 04:36 | kmkale | namaskar #koha |
| 04:38 | druthb | hi, kmkale. :) |
| 04:39 | kmkale | hi druthb |
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| 05:17 | snail | mtj: if you're around and have questions about the wikipedia article, I'm around at the moment |
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| 06:17 | kmkale | can anyone tell me how to initialize a git repo with a copied kohaclone directory? |
| 06:30 | never mind | |
| 06:32 | rangi | snail: do you want to add some of the other awards? |
| 06:33 | http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]&HighLight=2,koha | |
| 06:35 | it won the 3m award for innovation in 2000 too | |
| 06:35 | trying to find a 3rd party source for that | |
| 06:37 | http://lianza2009.wordpress.co[…]ion-in-libraries/ | |
| 06:39 | Another one in 2004 | |
| 06:39 | http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]&HighLight=2,koha | |
| 06:40 | http://www.nzosa.org.nz/winners finalist in nzosa, and i got contributor of the year for koha work | |
| 06:40 | prolly not worth adding that one tho | |
| 06:41 | i think thats all of them :) | |
| 06:44 | kmkale | chris got a minute? |
| 06:47 | many of the templates in opac which deal with users data eg opac-account.tmpl, opac-passwd.tmpl etc do not have a id for the container div like opac-user.tmpl has an id userdetail. having these id's makes it easier to customize with css. If you think adding such id's is a good idea, I can make a bug and a patch. | |
| 06:48 | rangi | yes, that is a good idea |
| 06:48 | everything should have an id | |
| 06:48 | i cant think of any reason not to give something one, even if we never use it, it cant hurt :) | |
| 06:49 | kmkale | cool |
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| 07:02 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 07:02 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 07:02 | francharb | hi rangi! |
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| 07:13 | snail | kmkale: if you're in there giving things id's and there are some that are similar, you may want to group them into a class as well |
| 07:14 | heh, can ppl see http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net[…]6073_335845_n.jpg ? | |
| 07:14 | magnuse | ooh, cozy! |
| 07:19 | snail | rangi: cheers, added those awards |
| 07:20 | rangi | cool photo :) |
| 07:25 | snail | Outside of a dog a book is a man's best friend, inside of a dog it's too dark to read --- Groucho Marx |
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| 08:02 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:03 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:04 | kf | hi rangi :) |
| 08:05 | pushing patches? :) | |
| 08:05 | rangi | always |
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| 08:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5462' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5cefec1ec661e51a> / Follow-up correction for Bug 5462 - Fix variable names for template::toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da132dd06e171eff3> |
| 08:12 | paul_p | hello world ! |
| 08:12 | working from home today. 2 boys ill | |
| 08:12 | hudsonbot | Starting build 347 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:12 | kf | hope they get better soon |
| 08:13 | and good morning paul_ü | |
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| 08:13 | paul_p | thx kf |
| 08:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b07be9c49b66e8ced> / Bug 5701: Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]796ec80251f3390fb> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb |
| 08:37 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #347: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/347/ |
| 08:37 | Owen Leonard: Follow-up correction for Bug 5462 - Fix variable names for template::toolkit | |
| 08:38 | Starting build 348 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 08:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2742 : Fix typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6a9cb7704a83cf40> |
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| 08:57 | magnuse | hm, looks like the patch for bug 2742 does not include our beloved "nynorsk" |
| 08:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2742 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, Wrong language name in the preferences |
| 08:58 | kf | morning magnus |
| 08:59 | magnuse | hiya kf |
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| 09:00 | magnuse | kia ora, jransom! |
| 09:00 | jransom | magnus baby !! how are you :D |
| 09:01 | magnuse | rangi: is it ok if i submit a patch for 2742 that just adds "nynorsk"? |
| 09:01 | jransom: fine thanks, lots of work to do and not enough time, though... ;-) | |
| 09:02 | jransom | tell me about it .. |
| 09:02 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #348: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/348/ |
| 09:02 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 2742 Correct language names in install | |
| 09:02 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
| 09:02 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5701: Distinction between authors/additional authors in staff normal view (MARC21/XSLT) | |
| 09:02 | * Fr?d?rick Capovilla: Bug 5616: Corrects an utf-8 encoding problem in cardviews | |
| 09:03 | magnuse | jransom: and you are crunching numbers? |
| 09:03 | hudsonbot | Starting build 349 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:06 | * kf | waves to jransom |
| 09:08 | rangi | magnuse: yes, thats fine |
| 09:09 | magnuse | rangi: cool. do i set the the status back to patch sent when it's sent? |
| 09:09 | hdl | hi |
| 09:09 | wahanui | hey, hdl |
| 09:10 | rangi | yup, thats right |
| 09:10 | magnuse | rangi: thanks, i'll give nynorsk a try, then |
| 09:13 | rangi | cool |
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| 09:20 | jransom | hiya Katrin :D |
| 09:21 | magnise: been crunching numbers all day. did a bit huge mistake | |
| 09:21 | just found it but need to explain it now .... | |
| 09:29 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #349: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/349/ |
| 09:29 | Chris Cormack: Bug 2742 : Fix typo | |
| 09:30 | magnuse | jransom: good thing you found it, then! |
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| 09:32 | rangi | hi indradg |
| 09:32 | indradg | rangi, hi |
| 09:32 | rangi, pm? | |
| 09:32 | rangi | yup |
| 09:35 | jransom | Magnus: yep - but now I have to fess up :( |
| 09:36 | magnuse | jransom: ah, you made the mistake earlier and discovered it now? |
| 09:40 | kmkale | brb |
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| 12:54 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 12:57 | jwagner | morning, jcamins |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Hi there, jwagner and Nate_. |
| 12:59 | Nate_ | morning! |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:18 | jcamins | oleonard: Good morning. I was just thinking of you. Are you working on Bug 5704? |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5704 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, bib level item type icon should display on search results |
| 13:18 | oleonard | No |
| 13:19 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 13:19 | I think I'll take a stab at it. | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | what's your plan? |
| 13:20 | jcamins | I'm still working on that. |
| 13:20 | oleonard | :) |
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| 13:28 | jcamins | Does anyone know of a way to quickly delete a huge number of records from MySQL? |
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| 13:30 | jwagner | jcamins, is there something identifiably unique about them? |
| 13:30 | i.e., can you select where.... | |
| 13:30 | jcamins | jwagner: yeah. |
| 13:30 | Huh. That was weird. | |
| 13:30 | DELETE FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber < 51200 only took 1:30 today. | |
| 13:31 | Cool. If there's a better day to do it, though, I'd be grateful for any pointers. | |
| 13:32 | I've been spending a lot of time deleting records of late. | |
| 13:33 | Never mind. The DELETE didn't work right. That's why it was so fast. | |
| 13:34 | jwagner | I don't work at the MySQL level much, but if you can do a where you should be able to frame a select. |
| 13:34 | What do you get if you do a select with the biblionumber < 51200? | |
| 13:34 | jcamins | Oh, I got all the results I want to delete. |
| 13:35 | The problem is when there are no typos, deleting 50k records takes a loooooooooooong time. | |
| 13:35 | kf | not sure it will be faster |
| 13:35 | but I had problems with tables where I was not allowed to delete more than one line at a time (not koha) | |
| 13:35 | and we did rewrite the output from a select to delete statements, using concat | |
| 13:36 | jwagner | kf, that sounds painful |
| 13:37 | jcamins | Ah. I see why it was so fast. |
| 13:37 | jwagner | jcamins, I assume you've checked that these records aren't linked to anything? |
| 13:37 | jcamins | It took 1:30 to delete about 10k records. |
| 13:37 | jwagner: they are. I'd be fine with manually reconciling foreign key constraints, though. | |
| 13:38 | I'm just going to blow away the database after I figure out what's going on anyway. | |
| 13:38 | kf | jwagner: only a little painful, once you have the statement it's pretty fast to do |
| 13:39 | jcamins | Ooh, I'll try SET foreign_key_checks = 0; |
| 13:39 | Woohoo! 4.2 seconds. | |
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| 13:45 | jcamins | What do y'all recommend for key_buffer on a VirtualBox VM? |
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| 13:57 | oleonard | bug 5709 |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5709 enhancement, P5, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, Adding the ability to translate HTML5 placeholder text in an input field |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Should we be modifying the translator script to accommodate a feature that isn't in Koha? |
| 14:00 | kf | oleonard: I think the question is if the translator script will be changed for template toolkit |
| 14:00 | and if we want to change it now before that happens? | |
| 14:00 | and do we plan to use html5 in koha | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | I think we should plan to use html5 in koha eventually |
| 14:02 | We've got too many template-wide change bugs at the moment: bug 4048, bug 5481 | |
| 14:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 14:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI | |
| 14:02 | oleonard | And T:T of course. |
| 14:03 | kf | I think we should wait for the next version perhaps |
| 14:03 | when the change to template toolkit is done | |
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| 14:05 | druthb | Good morning, from code4lib. :) |
| 14:06 | sekjal | I'm interested in a second template directory with all the templates done in HTML5 and CSS3 |
| 14:06 | oh, and found another followup fix for bug 5462 | |
| 14:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit |
| 14:07 | oleonard | sekjal: why a second one? |
| 14:07 | sekjal | the change to the templates breaks the patron messaging preferences form |
| 14:07 | oleonard | sekjal: Sorry, I mean why a second template directory? |
| 14:08 | sekjal | oleonard: ah |
| 14:08 | since not every browser supports HTML5 yet, we can keep koha's requirements lower by making HTML5 optional at first | |
| 14:09 | also, we can develop it in parallel, and fall back to prog if things get weird | |
| 14:15 | jcamins | For those of you who have been waiting with bated breath to learn how to delete massive numbers of records, here is what I did: |
| 14:15 | SET autocommit=0; | |
| 14:15 | Increased innodb_buffer_pool_size as much as possible. | |
| 14:15 | Ran the delete. | |
| 14:15 | (actually, I increased innodb_buffer_pool_size first) | |
| 14:16 | It was slow, but not like before. | |
| 14:18 | I left foreign_key_checks alone, since that makes the deletion propagate. | |
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| 15:06 | * druthb | returns ffrom break. |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Why would Zebra not work only with biblios? |
| 15:08 | Authorities are searching fine, but biblios are not. | |
| 15:09 | kf | have you reindexed with a and b? |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 15:10 | sekjal | jcamins: corrupted biblio record |
| 15:10 | ? | |
| 15:10 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 15:10 | wahanui | hmmm... probably is already fixed in 3.2.x and 3.4 |
| 15:11 | jcamins | Apparently the very first record, in fact. |
| 15:11 | oleonard | wahanui: forget probably |
| 15:11 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot probably |
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| 15:11 | jcamins | You'd think there would be some sort of error, though. |
| 15:13 | Oh, never mind. | |
| 15:13 | It's suppress lost biblios. | |
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| 15:15 | jcamins | OpacSuppression, rather. |
| 15:16 | jwagner | jcamins, do you mean the record wasn't searching because it was suppressed, or it was failing to index/corrupting because it was suppressed? |
| 15:17 | jcamins | jwagner: no results were coming up because OpacSuppression was turned on. |
| 15:17 | (and the suppress index wasn't set up) | |
| 15:17 | kf | kmkale++ |
| 15:18 | kmkale: I was customizing one of these pages with jquery yesterday and was missing a unique id :) | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | kf: Are you signing off on that patch? |
| 15:20 | * oleonard | had just started to review it |
| 15:22 | druthb | @wunder Bloomington, IN. |
| 15:22 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Bloomington, Indiana is -7.7�C (10:25 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:22 | * druthb | shivers a little. |
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| 15:23 | kf | oleonard: i don't have time now - I could try tonight |
| 15:23 | oleonard | No, I'll just keep going |
| 15:23 | kf | ok, thx |
| 15:23 | oleonard | I just wanted to make sure we weren't both working on it |
| 15:23 | kf | no, shoudl work on a zillion other things |
| 15:26 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 15:26 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (4:20 PM CET on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:29 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 15:29 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -3.0�C (10:15 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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| 15:45 | nengard | @wunder seattle, wa |
| 15:45 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Herrera Environmental Consultants, Seattle, Washington is 5.1�C (7:49 AM PST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:45 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 15:45 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is 2.2�C (10:49 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 8 PM EST this evening... |
| 15:46 | oleonard | Are you in Seattle nengard ? |
| 15:46 | nengard | well - i guess it's good i'm in seattle :) |
| 15:46 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 15:46 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Long Island City, Queens, New York is 6.4�C (10:45 AM EST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:46 | nengard | yep oleonard |
| 15:46 | training yet another new koha library :) | |
| 15:47 | * oleonard | should find an excuse to visit Seattle someday |
| 15:47 | nengard | my second visit |
| 15:47 | last time was for SLA | |
| 15:52 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
| 15:52 | huginn | rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -16.7�C (9:56 AM CST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -24.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon CST today... |
| 15:52 | rhcl | -16.7 Do I win? |
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| 15:59 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 15:59 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #112: "gmcharlt: only superlibrarians can be trusted with capes" (added by wizzyrea at 09:17 PM, December 15, 2010) |
| 16:00 | oleonard | rhcl: A Pyrrhic victory though it is |
| 16:00 | gmcharlt | @wunder 99517 |
| 16:00 | huginn | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Earthquake Park, Anchorage, Alaska is -5.7�C (6:59 AM AKST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Falling). Strong wind through late tonight along Turnagain Arm and higher elevations... |
| 16:00 | gmcharlt | very Pyrrhic |
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| 16:15 | gmcharlt | does anybody know offhand whether Switzerland is UNIMARC or MARC21 territory? |
| 16:15 | * gmcharlt | suddenly had an imagine of a weird, cataloger-centric game of Risk |
| 16:16 | jcamins | gmcharlt: that's a really funny image. But I have no idea. |
| 16:17 | gmcharlt | hmm, looks like MARC21 if the national library's catalog is any indication |
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| 16:19 | hdl | gmcharlt: we had UNIMARC libraries there |
| 16:19 | But there are some MARC21 also | |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | mxiture, then |
| 16:19 | * jwagner | gathers armies in the other blue countries and prepares to attack Switzerland |
| 16:20 | hdl | gmcharlt: Do you know what data SimpleServer should send back when being asked MARC records ? It seems that sending MARC::Record->as_usmarc is being interpreted as BAD MARC |
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| 16:21 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
| 16:21 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -15.1�C (10:25 AM CST on February 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -22.0�C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday... |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | so close. |
| 16:21 | gmcharlt | hdl: yep, it should be expecting regular ISO |
| 16:21 | though you could try MARCXML | |
| 16:22 | hdl | marcxml is being sent ok |
| 16:22 | Our SimpleServer for Solr is working fine with marcxml | |
| 16:23 | But is rasing an error when answering MARC | |
| 16:23 | trying to know what we are supposed to send | |
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| 16:37 | oleonard | Yes, it's true: I created a bug report and sent a patch for a bug involving one space. |
| 16:37 | jcamins | oleonard++ # for attention to detail |
| 16:37 | oleonard | I hope it finds its way into Koha's top-ten list of single-character bug fixes |
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| 16:46 | cait | owen++ |
| 16:47 | oleonard++ even | |
| 16:47 | this missing space was annoying :) | |
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| 17:02 | magnuse | oleonard: my first patch removed one character... ;-) |
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| 18:56 | liw | oleonard, I have a friend who's contribution to the Linux kernel is -1 lines :) he found a bug whose fix was to remove a line |
| 19:01 | rangi | Nice :) |
| 19:01 | * druthb | waves to rangi |
| 19:02 | rangi | Heya how's the conf going? |
| 19:02 | druthb | so far, so good. |
| 19:02 | rangi | Cool |
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| 19:13 | rangi | Ahh nickserv, gotta love it |
| 19:14 | fcapo | Hello, I have some questions on Zebra reindexation : is anybody working on a replacement for zebraqueue right now? |
| 19:15 | Our clients need to have live reindexation of records, so right now we are using zebraqueue with a restart every night because of its memory leaks :/ | |
| 19:16 | jcamins | fcapo: I think ebegin was doing some work on that. |
| 19:17 | ebegin | I had a look at it, but I was pulled by something else and didn't have time to look at it since. |
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| 19:18 | ebegin | but it still in my todo list :) |
| 19:18 | fcapo | ok, good :) |
| 19:19 | Today, I had to modify zebraqueue so it would work like rebuild_zebra. I just copied the fix_leader, fix_biblio_ids, fix_authority_id and fix_unimarc_100 subroutines from rebuild_zebra and used them in zebraqueue. | |
| 19:20 | I'm just wondering what all these fix subroutines are doing :/ | |
| 19:20 | ebegin | They are fixing things ;) |
| 19:20 | rangi | Fcapo |
| 19:20 | mtj | fcapo: i have a similar hack for zebq |
| 19:20 | rangi | You are better off writing some bash |
| 19:21 | To run rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 19:21 | In a loop | |
| 19:21 | mtj | ie: a bash wrapper script that calls zebq.pl, every minute |
| 19:22 | this allows me to start/start the re-indexing easily, without a cron edit | |
| 19:23 | rangi | Well more that calls it whenever it finishes,every min you will get more than one running |
| 19:23 | fcapo | Well, my modifications to zebraqueue are already done and working. |
| 19:24 | rangi | Yes but it still leaks |
| 19:24 | That's why it shouldn't be used | |
| 19:24 | fcapo | yea :/ that's why we do a restart every night |
| 19:25 | mtj | a restart every hour even, and it prolly works ok too |
| 19:25 | fcapo | yea, If I get memory problem, I'll change the restart interval |
| 19:25 | mtj | (but i should not really recommend that, to folks) |
| 19:26 | rangi | Naw |
| 19:26 | It still spazzes out | |
| 19:26 | Every so often | |
| 19:26 | I wrote it and it sux | |
| 19:26 | mtj | but yeah, what we really need is a new re-index method thats a hybrid of the two |
| 19:26 | rangi | Don't use it |
| 19:26 | Is my advice | |
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| 19:27 | rangi | Bbiab |
| 19:28 | mtj | oops, i take that back!….. |
| 19:28 | fcapo | so... no perfect way to do live reindexation yet? :( |
| 19:28 | mtj | i have a wrapper script that calls rebuild-zeb.pl every X minutes |
| 19:29 | rather than calling rebuild_zeb.pl via cron | |
| 19:29 | no, its been on my to do list for a while too! | |
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| 19:30 | ebegin | But having to wait X minute for reindexation is quite long for the users. |
| 19:30 | pastebot0 | "mtj" at 203.97.99.222 pasted "zeb_wrapper.pl" (55 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
| 19:30 | fcapo | Well, right now my modified zebraqueue seems to be working correctly, only leaking memory when a lot of modifications are made :/ |
| 19:30 | druthb1 is now known as druthb | |
| 19:31 | fcapo | Thanks for the feedbacks, I'll be careful with it. |
| 19:31 | ebegin | It's ok for bib appearing in the catalogue, but when they are creating a new bib and want to add a newly created authority, they have to wait for X minutes before being able to search it... |
| 19:32 | mtj | fcapo: check out my prev. paste.. |
| 19:33 | as chris.c said, its a looping bash wrapper for rebuild_zeb.pl, rather than a cron | |
| 19:33 | fcapo | mtj: looking at it. I'll test it |
| 19:33 | mtj | lol, its actually a *perl* wrapper, not bash ;) |
| 19:34 | fcapo | yea :P |
| 19:34 | mtj | but you get the picture... |
| 19:34 | sleep for a minute, | |
| 19:34 | is a current rebuild happening?, no... | |
| 19:35 | are there any outstanding bibs to index, yes... | |
| 19:35 | rangi | back |
| 19:35 | mtj | then, start rebulild_zeb.pl.. |
| 19:35 | fcapo | Well, normal cronjobs have a 1 minute limit, so using that script with a 60 seconds interval isn't really different, no? |
| 19:36 | rangi | fcapo: i use one that just starts another one as soon as one finishes, well 5 second wait |
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| 19:36 | rangi | you can adjust the time |
| 19:36 | ebegin | fcapo, you could set it at 10 sec if you want to. If there is nothing to do, this script just access the db once |
| 19:36 | mtj | no different really , but i/admins can start/stop the job easily |
| 19:36 | fcapo | just wondering if lowering the interval so it's almost "live" would slow down the server :/ |
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| 19:37 | rangi | if you did it nicely, with a fork, from within perl, then no, no more than the daemon does |
| 19:37 | fcapo | interesting |
| 19:37 | mtj | it should *not* slow the server, too badly |
| 19:38 | its just a "select * limit 1" lookup to zebra_queue table... | |
| 19:38 | ive you clean out the zeb_que table every few days, that select is pretty quick | |
| 19:39 | thats the theory , anyway... :) | |
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| 19:39 | brendan_ | mtj I live the name of your computer ( bilbo ) :) |
| 19:39 | heh s/live/love | |
| 19:40 | mtj | twas a katipo name, i think? |
| 19:40 | fcapo | I was thinking about the time it takes to start new instances of perl, but then I saw the "Select limit 1" ... nice |
| 19:40 | rangi | nope katipo is all spiders |
| 19:41 | mtj | katipo named the box for that client? |
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| 19:43 | mtj | ah, me remembers.... |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Just for the record, if you set autocommit=0, make sure you run `COMMIT;` after the queries you want to stick. |
| 19:46 | mtj | fcapo: so my goofy zeb_wrapper.pl script could be increased to loop every 5 /10 seconds |
| 19:47 | … which would be close to real-time indexing, without the zeb_daemon.pl memory bloat problem | |
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| 19:48 | mtj | ive been too busy/embarassed to submit it to kc.org, but its been running fine on a prod/slave combo for 2 years :) |
| 19:49 | rangi | everyone say hi to space_librarian |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Hello, space_librarian. |
| 19:49 | rangi | today is her 3rd day at catalyst |
| 19:50 | space_librarian | hello space_librarian. :) |
| 19:50 | ibeardslee | and she has a computer already! |
| 19:50 | rangi | heh |
| 19:50 | space_librarian | and dual monitors. I'm so impressed! |
| 19:50 | mtj | space_librarian: grateings from planet earth |
| 19:50 | druthb | hi, space_librarian! :D |
| 19:51 | space_librarian | Hey all. :) |
| 19:51 | sekjal | space_librarian: we're watching a presentation on the Astronomical Data System here at Code4Lib |
| 19:51 | * mtj | always views the matrix with dual monitors, (in hex) |
| 19:51 | sekjal | druthb and I, that is |
| 19:52 | space_librarian | that sounds pretty awesome. |
| 19:53 | And I wonder if I can still find that old school (original) matrix screensaver somewhere... | |
| 19:54 | rangi | space_librarian: this is the main koha channel, its all logged, and its where we have our community meetings etc |
| 19:54 | ibeardslee | space_librarian: System >> Preferences >> Screensaver >> MatrixView |
| 19:54 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/today |
| 19:55 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings | |
| 19:55 | space_librarian | great. I will take notes and be attentive. And go look for that screensaver. |
| 19:55 | rangi | :) |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | mtj: !!!!! Give! |
| 19:56 | ok for real this time | |
| 19:56 | rangi | sekja, wizzyrea and druthb are in the us, mtj is somewhere near wellington, ibeardslee is down on level 2 :) |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | i'm out, peace :P |
| 19:56 | rangi | cya wizzyrea |
| 19:57 | * jcamins | is in the US, too. |
| 19:57 | rangi | ah yep, and jcamins |
| 19:57 | space_librarian | ciao wizzyrea, nice to meet you. |
| 19:57 | rangi | jcamins, sekjal, druthb, brendan_, Nate_ and nengard are all from bywater |
| 19:58 | (a koha support company) | |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea is from NEKLS http://www.nekls.org/ | |
| 19:58 | druthb | :D |
| 20:01 | brendan_ | :D |
| 20:02 | jcamins | gmcharlt++ # for including useful information when you run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl with -v |
| 20:04 | useless_verbose_logging-- | |
| 20:04 | @karma useless_verbose_logging | |
| 20:04 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "useless_verbose_logging" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
| 20:04 | jcamins | That's it? |
| 20:04 | useless_verbose_logging-- | |
| 20:05 | oleonard | Hello from Ohio, space_librarian |
| 20:05 | jwagner | And hello from Maryland |
| 20:07 | sekjal | useless_verbose_logging-- |
| 20:07 | I'll chip in on that :) | |
| 20:08 | space_librarian | you know that useless verbosity is a mainstay of bibs and authorities in library cataloguing, right? Just checking... :) |
| 20:09 | jcamins | space_librarian: no, my objection is when -v gives you all the information in the world except what you need. |
| 20:09 | For example, which record has killed the indexing process. | |
| 20:09 | space_librarian | oh yes. I know. That's the irony of it all. And you can never get a straight answer either. |
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| 20:17 | slef | hi all... been a pointlessly busy day here |
| 20:17 | sekjal | sorry to hear that, slef |
| 20:17 | nice when busy days are pointy | |
| 20:18 | slef | lots of admin done, but it's just not the same |
| 20:20 | jcamins | Here's a thought experiment. What if link_bibs_to_authorities committed changes to 1000 records at a time? |
| 20:21 | Would that make it any faster? | |
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| 20:30 | rangi | how about making a switch |
| 20:30 | where you can specify how many to commit after | |
| 20:30 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, that's what I would do if I were going to implement the feature. |
| 20:30 | The purpose of the thought experiment was to determine whether it's something worth doing. | |
| 20:31 | rangi | well, you'd probably have to try it and see |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I figured. |
| 20:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1238a276cc6addbaf> |
| 20:32 | fcapo | mtj : Thank you for sharing your zeb_wrapper.pl script. It's working great! |
| 20:34 | hdl | hi |
| 20:34 | wahanui | hola, hdl |
| 20:35 | rangi | hdl: another biblibre patch merged ! :-) |
| 20:35 | hdl | nice. |
| 20:35 | rangi | i hope to finish 5574 today |
| 20:35 | https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ <-- new koha site live | |
| 20:35 | hdl | fcapo: where is this zeb_wrapper script ? |
| 20:36 | oleonard | rangi: Nice! |
| 20:36 | mtj | hdl http://paste.koha-community.org/141 |
| 20:36 | rhcl | chris: just out of idle curiosity, why https vs http? |
| 20:36 | mtj | ok, gotta scoot... |
| 20:36 | rangi | it connects to their active directory |
| 20:37 | i dont want passwords floating around in plain text | |
| 20:37 | mtj | ooh, new books! ;) |
| 20:37 | chris_n | rangi: nice looking site |
| 20:37 | rhcl | ic login page |
| 20:37 | mtj | nice css skinning rangi |
| 20:37 | oleonard | rangi: Is that designed by Catalyst? |
| 20:37 | rangi | they did most of it |
| 20:38 | we just helped them with the trickier bits of css | |
| 20:38 | that site is your definitive resource for kiwifruit btw :) | |
| 20:39 | hdl | in fact most of Koha sites should be in https |
| 20:39 | nice looking | |
| 20:41 | mtj: good script, could be part of a patch | |
| 20:41 | I think paul sent his rebuild_zebra_sliced.pl script | |
| 20:42 | hudsonbot | Starting build 350 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:45 | sijobl | woo, plant and food |
| 20:46 | rhcl | there seems to be a dead link on the page -- E Journals and Books |
| 20:46 | sijobl | rangi: is stephen northover still the librarian? |
| 20:46 | rhcl | re: plantand food |
| 20:46 | * sijobl | guesses not, as it as 20 years ago when I worked there :-) |
| 20:47 | rhcl | well, I guess all the left margin links are dead--site not live yet I guess? |
| 20:50 | rangi | sijobl: hmm nope, all women |
| 20:50 | you were at hort research eh? | |
| 20:51 | slef | rangi: doesn't absol... hmm |
| 20:51 | sijobl | yup, and the DSIR before that |
| 20:51 | the last six months of that august institution :-) | |
| 20:51 | rangi | right, plant and food were an interesting one, cos it was merging 2 catalogues, crop and food and hortresearch |
| 20:51 | sijobl | we were so cool, we made our own routers |
| 20:51 | from scratch | |
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| 20:51 | rangi | both used different systems |
| 20:51 | hehe cool | |
| 20:52 | sijobl | eventually, the router division was commercialised and became allied telesyn |
| 20:52 | rangi | rhcl: i think that link only works inside their vpn |
| 20:52 | sijobl | I'm suprised it's taken that long - weren't crop and hort merged years ago? |
| 20:52 | rangi | yes, yes they were ;) |
| 20:53 | sijobl | ohh, no, it was only the end of 2009 |
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| 20:53 | rangi | well a year ago :) |
| 20:53 | sijobl | sorry, end of 2008 |
| 20:53 | so two years to merge library systems | |
| 20:53 | you don't want to rush these things :-) | |
| 20:53 | rangi | we only started in sept |
| 20:53 | :) | |
| 20:54 | sijobl | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/scie[…]objectid=10533889 |
| 20:54 | rangi | their building is pretty neat |
| 20:54 | its one of those ones they could never build these days | |
| 20:54 | build old science block | |
| 20:54 | sijobl | whereabouts? |
| 20:54 | rangi | s/build/big/ |
| 20:55 | mt edenish | |
| 20:55 | sijobl | ohh, yes |
| 20:55 | rangi | you can see eden park from it anyway |
| 20:55 | sijobl | MARC |
| 20:55 | rangi | has a bunch of land around it too still |
| 20:55 | sijobl | it is a bit mad, in the high rise out in the burbs sense |
| 20:55 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:55 | sijobl | mount albert research centre |
| 20:56 | rangi | thats it |
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| 21:07 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #350: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/350/ |
| 21:07 | Paul Poulain: Bug 5718 : fix permission of moveitem = edit_items needed | |
| 21:08 | oleonard | Ciao #koha |
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| 21:18 | jcamins | I seem to recall there being a document explaining Koha version numbers. Does anyone know where that document might be? |
| 21:21 | rangi | theres more than one |
| 21:21 | one is on the site whose name i will not utter | |
| 21:22 | * druthb | announces a code4lib Koha hackfest tonight, in her hotel room. :) |
| 21:22 | rangi | http://pakbill.net/koha/ |
| 21:22 | * druthb | must now hustle to get her room tidied up a bit... |
| 21:22 | rangi | is scrapped from that site |
| 21:22 | With Koha 3, version numbering has been changed to use a method similar to Perl's: | |
| 21:22 | major.minor[.revision[.build]] | |
| 21:22 | * major: one digit | |
| 21:22 | * minor: two-digit | |
| 21:22 | * revision: two-digit | |
| 21:22 | * build: three-digit | |
| 21:23 | jcamins | Hm. Thanks. |
| 21:26 | How do you find out where two branches diverged? | |
| 21:27 | rangi | 2 branches in git? |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:27 | rangi | git merge-base |
| 21:28 | rorohiko:[git/new/enh/bug_5720-]:~/git/catalyst-koha% git merge-base new/enh/bug_5720 kc/master | |
| 21:28 | d251585f717203b3abc27ab1238a276cc6addbaf | |
| 21:28 | git freaking rules | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | That's really cool. |
| 21:31 | Okay, one last question... is it possible to get a log going all the way back to a specific commit? | |
| 21:32 | liw | git log COMMITID1 HEAD # iirc |
| 21:32 | jcamins | Oh, I figured it out. |
| 21:32 | Yeah, I had the two arguments backwards. | |
| 21:45 | sekjal | japanese open source ILS: Enju |
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| 21:46 | sekjal | github.com/nabeta/next-l |
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| 22:26 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
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| 22:34 | rangi | hi LBA |
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| 23:06 | LBA | howdy rangi |
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