IRC log for #koha, 2011-02-10

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01:03 rangi back
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01:43 brendan__ evening
01:47 rangi hey brendan__
01:47 brendan__ :)
01:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5731 When No ccode is defined for an item, then moredetail.pl throws a 500 error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64fa5f66f915c6283>
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01:57 hudsonbot Starting build 356 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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02:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5733 : MT3531: Intranet cart is emptied when session is closed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5c9c3293bed8d3fa>
02:21 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #356: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/356/
02:21 Paul Poulain: Bug 5731 When No ccode is defined for an item, then moredetail.pl throws a 500 error
02:22 Starting build 357 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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02:46 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #357: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/357/
02:46 Paul Poulain: Bug 5733 : MT3531: Intranet cart is emptied when session is closed
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04:08 kmkale Namaskar #koha
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06:34 sonik anybody home?
06:37 kmkale hi sonik
06:38 sonik can you help me with my koha installation
06:41 kmkale sonik: ask your question. If I cant I am sure somebody will
06:43 sonik im having trouble with an internal server error
06:44 kmkale whats the error?
06:44 sonik theres a lot
06:44 for staters
06:44 *starters
06:44 Premature end of script headers: opac-main.pl
06:44 kmkale sonik: you can use http://paste.koha-community.org/ to paste lotsa text
06:45 sonik ok
06:45 pastebot0 "sonik" at 210.4.97.200 pasted "opac errors" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/142
06:46 kmkale looks like you are missing a perl module
06:47 did you check if all perl module dependencies are met afre running perl Makefile.PL?
06:50 you can also run perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m in your dir where you untarred Koha
06:50 Date::Calc
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06:53 sonik hmm
06:53 ic
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06:58 francharb hi #koha
06:59 kmkale hi francharb hdl
06:59 hdl hi
07:00 high time to head to office
07:04 sonik kmkale is that on a linux installation?
07:04 im trying it out on a windows installation
07:05 kmkale oh. which Koha version sonik ?
07:06 mtj sonik:  try a linux install 1st ;)
07:06 kmkale yeh. its so much easier now. and you get the latest goodies
07:07 sonik i did that already, it wasnt fruitful
07:07 i already intalled it 3 on different OS
07:08 mtj if you cant install koha on linux, you wont be able to install it on windows...
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07:08 sonik i successfully installed it on windows
07:08 mtj try debian 1st
07:09 sonik but im having some problems on the Internal server errors
07:10 mtj theres currently only *1* developer with a windows install
07:10 he is called chris_n on irc
07:10 sonik oh well
07:11 might as well reinstall to whole thing T_T
07:11 mtj so, if you catch chris_n on irc, he can prolly help you
07:12 try debian 1st
07:12 98% of all dentists prefer debian
07:13 sonik if symptoms presist insult your doctor
07:13 hehehehe
07:13 kmkale is now known as kmkale_a
07:13 sonik ok will try debian
07:13 will have to download an image first
07:14 mtj koha 2.2.9 is *years* old, too
07:14 try a koha VM image, on yr windows box
07:15 sonik i already did that
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07:34 pastebot0 "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "Update errors after git pull" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/143
07:35 kmkale looks like the privacy column already existed
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08:35 kf hi #koha
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09:05 glernil good day
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09:05 glernil how can i set koha to send check out and check in notifications to patrons immediately?
09:07 kf you want to change the time until a checkout notice is sent out?
09:07 and sending checkout notices works for you already?
09:07 glernil i just want to send notifications
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09:08 kf so the feature is not working for you yet?
09:08 jransom hiya everyone
09:08 kf you have to activate enhancedmessagingpreferences and activate check-in and checkout notices in the borrower account
09:08 you can also set default values in your borrower categories that will be used for newly created patrons
09:08 glernil ok.. i'll try to do that
09:08 kf you have to add cronjobs too
09:09 or I think so - not sure you need process_message_queue for that feature
09:09 glernil what are cron jobs?
09:09 kf scheduled runs of scripts
09:09 like fines.pl which sets fines on borrower accounts
09:11 and there are scripts for creating and processing of notices too
09:11 overdue notices, advance notices, item due notices, not sure if it includes the checkout and check-in notices
09:11 glernil how can that be? could you please provide a resource for that?
09:11 kf hi jransom :)
09:11 glernil: check out the manual sectiona bout cronjobs
09:12 but I would try to setup the feature like I told you, activate the enhancedmessagingpreference and activate for a borrower and try it
09:12 perhaps it works without
09:12 but you will need cronjobs for sure for other features
09:12 glernil ok.. i have to check that out
09:12 tnx!
09:12 ;)
09:13 kf http://koha-community.org/docu[…]manual/?ch=c13186
09:15 jransom: Baacamp? :)
09:16 jransom http://baacamp.org/
09:18 kf cool
09:18 sounds like a lot of fun and interesting conversations
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09:22 jransom should be - and I hope so. Chris is going to and few others from Catalyst and library circles
09:22 should be very cool.
09:22 gotta go get some sleep
09:22 cya
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09:50 davi morning
09:52 Must I sent the patch I have signed off for bug 5682 to koha@lists.katipo.co.nz or to koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org ?
09:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5682 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, POD in C4::Charset was wrong
09:59 kf davi: always koha-patches
10:00 davi ack
10:01 kf add [SIGNED-OFF] to the subject
10:01 I will add teh list to the wiki
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11:48 kf hi magnuse :)
11:48 * magnuse wonders why all his search results are showing as "No copies available", when the detail view says "available"...
11:49 magnuse guten tag kf & #koha
11:49 kf magnuse: reindex=
11:49 ?
11:49 magnuse hm, could be wort a try i guess
11:49 kf it could be that one information comes from zebra and the other from mysql
11:53 magnuse well, the strange thing is i dumpt one record right before it's passed to the xslt transform, and it does have <items xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/items"><item><homebranch>SKSK Bibliotek</homebranch><status>available</status><i​temcallnumber>Cha</itemcallnumber></item></items> and that <status>available</status> is what the xslt checks to say available/not available
12:01 nope reindexing didn't change anything, i'll keep digging ;-)
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12:12 kf magnuse: good luck!
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12:23 kf hi Nate__
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12:37 Nate__ moning
12:40 jwagner Er, morning?
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12:41 jwagner @wunder 20817
12:41 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -5.3�C (7:44 AM EST on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising).
12:57 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
13:05 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
13:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
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13:18 francharb @wunder lyon, france
13:18 huginn francharb: The current temperature in Bron, France is 9.0�C (2:22 PM CET on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady).
13:18 francharb Humidity: 81% : no shit!
13:19 even in montreal with -30°, it's less chilly than 9° with Humidity: 81%...
13:29 magnuse +9 sounds nice...
13:34 but: woohoo! the sun is shining on our livingroom windowsill! i don't think it has done that since before kohacon
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13:46 jwagner sunlight++
13:47 magnuse sunlight++ # i couldn't agree more!
13:47 @karma sunlight
13:47 huginn magnuse: Karma for "sunlight" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
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14:10 magnuse o/
14:11 druthb hi, magnus! :D
14:11 magnuse hiya druthb
14:11 still enjoying code4lib?
14:12 druthb yup.  I'm tired, but it's been great!
14:14 jwagner druthb, wave at all my cousins while you're there!
14:14 magnuse sounds perfect, druthb :-)
14:14 druthb willdo, jwagner! :D
14:15 magnuse: It's been wonderful, on many levels.  Made some great contacts.
14:15 * jwagner needs to get back to Indiana for some family visits...
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14:48 fcapo hello, I'm having a problem with the merge_authority.pl script.
14:48 When I run it with the -b option, I get this error :
14:48 {_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/lib/perl5/ZOOM.pm line 341.
14:50 It seems to happen because the ZOOM connection is destroyed on line 1305 of AuthoritiesMarc.pm . The first merge is done, but when it gets to the second one, the connection is already destroyed.
14:51 kmkale bye all. Good night
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16:06 oleonard fcapo: When you submit a patch don't forget to assign the bug to yourself and to mark it "assigned"
16:08 fcapo oh, sorry, I knew I forgot something :/
16:08 oleonard That's okay, thanks for sending the patches! :)
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16:09 jcamins Good morning, #koha
16:11 rhcl_away hi hi jcamins
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16:11 oleonard Hi jcamins and rhcl
16:11 rhcl hi oleonard
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16:13 jcamins Hello, rhcl and oleonard.
16:31 oleonard This channel is quiet as a Friday today
16:31 jcamins Yay! Today is Friday!
16:31 Right?
16:31 oleonard Not with that nick it isn't jcamins
16:32 Today Friday is reserved for a select few
16:32 jcamins Aww. Phooey.
16:33 * kf is glad it's not friday
16:33 waves
16:34 * jcamins waves back
16:35 * druthb wonders if it Friday for persons with her nick..
16:36 kf hm?
16:39 jcamins Does Koha really display only 440 and not 490?
16:39 druthb see oleonard's last...
16:41 jcamins Ah, fixed in master.
16:44 magnuse it's friday in nz...
16:45 jcamins Does anyone have any suggestions on how to hide the Item type column in the OPAC using jQuery?
16:46 There is no identifying characteristic that I can see.
16:47 Well, I guess it's the first column.
16:47 oleonard Yeah, that's the ticket jcamins
16:48 Try: $("#holdingst td, #holdingst th").eq(0).hide();
16:50 jcamins Works great, thanks!
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17:08 oleonard rangi: Did you get the patch for Bug 5720 from Biblibre's stuff?
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl
17:08 rangi theres an easy way to tell oleonard
17:08 check the blocks bit
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17:09 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]0&hide_resolved=1
17:09 what im doing is breaking those big bugs into smaller testable ones
17:10 eg http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]4&hide_resolved=1
17:10 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]5&hide_resolved=1  <-- im still working on, 5574 is broken up and some are merged into master now
17:11 each bug applies independently of the others too
17:11 oleonard rangi: That's good news for the rest of us but it sounds like a laborious process for you
17:11 rangi so i have had to change a few things, getting there
17:12 yup, it does take time, but biblibre have hired catalyst to help them tidy these up
17:12 oleonard biblibre++
17:13 Bug 5720 caught my eye because I was working on the same fix this week :|
17:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl
17:13 jcamins rangi++
17:13 rangi *nod* thats the other danger of big branch/bugs
17:13 stuff isnt visible
17:13 oleonard I'd be bummed if my fix actually worked ;)
17:13 rangi hehe
17:13 * oleonard will test Biblibre's patch
17:14 rangi yay!
17:14 oleonard++
17:15 @karma
17:15 huginn rangi: Highest karma: "chris" (236), "oleonard" (229), and "gmcharlt" (216).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-86), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-34).  You (rangi) are ranked 52 out of 1206.
17:15 oleonard I'm looking forward to testing the broken-out pieces of Bug 5575
17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
17:18 rangi yeah its a little tricky as im breaking them out, then finding the fixes that have been done and applying those too
17:18 but they should all be done by the end of next week with patches for all
17:19 im not gonna be around most of today, and all sat and sun tho
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18:38 Barc 3.2.2 install - make test showing this error ->  PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Service' . Any ideas?
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18:40 Barc I got booted! Q again:
18:40 3.2.2 install. Make test gives this error -> PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Service. Any ideas?
18:43 jcamins Barc: not really. Sounds like it might be an issue with a missing module?
18:43 How did you install Koha?
18:44 Barc downloaded the tar and followed the install instructions. Have done it many times but never seen this one!
18:45 Is there a module check? I see the dep check perl script but that has none missing.
18:47 brendan__ @wunder 93109
18:47 huginn brendan__: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.2�C (10:51 AM PST on February 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling).
18:47 jcamins Hm.
18:48 I'm out of ideas, because there's only the one script that I know of.
18:50 rangi barc: why 3.2.2 not 3.2.3 ?
18:51 Barc Cause I have to migrate it from one server to another and the source is 3.2.2. I thought it might be easier using the same release
18:52 rangi well if you are just copying the db, the upgrader will kick in and upgrade it, but yeah as long as you got 3.2.2 from koha-community.org it should be alright
18:52 Barc I think DBD::MySQL didn't install correclty. In fact, I know it didn't, but when try to install that I get this error: Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82
18:52 jcamins Barc: are you missing the mysql_client package?
18:52 rangi what distro?
18:53 apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
18:53 will pull in the dependencies
18:54 (if you are using debian or one of its derivatives)
18:54 Barc It's installed already. It is debian lenny, 5.08
18:55 rangi apt-get install mysql-client
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18:57 Barc That's installed also......strange
18:57 rangi and the server is installed?
18:57 * cait waves
18:57 * jcamins waves to cait
18:57 cait hi jared :)
18:58 Barc Of course!
18:59 jcamins apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl followed by a reinstall?
19:00 rangi well, youve managed to get yourself into a situation ive never seen before, so excuse the questions if they sound obvious
19:01 Barc Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like it did. Thanks for your help.
19:02 Remove and reinstall and the same error!
19:03 rangi how weird
19:03 i wonder if paths are messed up
19:04 locate mysql_config .. find anything?
19:06 ibeardslee same problem mentioned here ... http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]0-May/023902.html
19:07 rangi yeah but no answer
19:07 ah ha
19:07 mysql-dev
19:07 Barc Yeah, I followed that through too.......locate found nothing!
19:07 rangi https://www.linuxquestions.org[…]ql_config-645147/
19:08 Barc mysql-dev doesn;t exist
19:08 ibeardslee rangi: looking at that as well
19:08 Barc been there too!
19:08 jcamins I am just setting up a new Lenny system.
19:08 I'll let you know if I run into any issues.
19:10 I'll be installing the latest from git eventually, but I can try it first with 3.2.2.
19:12 rangi libmysqlclient15-dev
19:12 Barc Well, 'libmysqlclient15-dev sorted it
19:12 rangi heh
19:13 Barc but I still get the C4::Services error back in the make test for koha.....unreal! I have installed a lot of koha systems and never ran into these problems!
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19:13 rangi yeah, ive never seen the C4::Services one
19:14 does it give you more info?
19:14 Barc yep
19:14 this
19:14 Error:  Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__​DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /home/root/kohatmp/koha-3.2.2/bl​ib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 692
19:14 rangi ah ha!
19:14 jcamins Oh, there's why.
19:14 Barc suspense.........
19:15 rangi its using the wrong koha-conf.xml
19:15 one that hasnt been configured
19:16 Barc ummm....I can see that path alright, to the temp dir....but I always install from there......what am I missing!?
19:16 rangi echo $KOHA_CONF
19:18 Barc I will----although I think the promblem is that I ran makefile before I had DBD::Mysql installed
19:19 Yep - I reran the makefile and now the test passed.
19:19 Schoolboy error - sorry for taking up your time! But thanks for your help.....
19:21 rangi no worries
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19:47 hdl hi all
19:47 brendan__ heya hdl
19:50 hdl any git master around ?
19:52 gmcharlt hdl: what's up?
19:52 hdl just saying hi
19:52 Oh yes...
19:53 I have some question
19:53 say : repository A is for merging devs and testing.
19:53 Then it is validated and branches should be pushed and merged.
19:53 In order to be released for a library
19:54 repository A contains branch A B C merged with conflicts solved.
19:54 But only A and C are validated
19:55 Is there any way to get branch B out of the merge ? and still push the merge of branch A and C without redoing the conflict ?
19:56 gmcharlt you could try reverting the merge commit that folded B in
19:56 though there would likely be a new set of conflicts to resolve to before validating and testing the combined A+C
19:57 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f11bb969213c315b
19:57 gmcharlt exactly
19:57 hdl gmcharlt: yes... reverting would not be a solution
19:58 rangi you have 2 options, revert and fix,
19:58 create a new branch, merge and a and c and fix
19:59 unless you want to try rebasing it interactively, but chances are you will just make a bigger mess doing that
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20:39 wizzyrea oleonard: about?
20:39 oleonard Yes
20:40 wizzyrea one of my librarians had an idea re: the checkout page and holds
20:40 I wanted to see what you thought of it
20:40 you know how it shows waiting holds on the checkout page?
20:40 and it hotlinks the title of the book
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20:41 oleonard I know of this.
20:41 wizzyrea one of my librarians suggested that it would be super cool if next to that alert you could click a link that would either send the barcode to the check out box, or check out the item
20:41 right then
20:43 oleonard I've had a similar thought before. I think it stems from our fundamental laziness.
20:43 It's somehow easier to click a button like that than scan the book, which must be right in front of us anyway.
20:43 wizzyrea I see her point about it, since many holds in our system come from different libraries
20:43 the barcodes are all in weird places
20:44 inside, outside, on the back, on the front
20:44 oleonard But do we run the risk of accidental checkouts?
20:44 wizzyrea so it would be much easier to click the button (I guess(
20:44 well that's a legit concern
20:47 it's just something to think about, I didnt want to file a bug without pestering you about it (because it might be a dumb idea_
20:47 it doesn't seem dumb though, it kind of makes sense
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20:47 wizzyrea sending the barcode to the field would probably be less prone to accidents than a direct checkout from the link
20:48 bc you'd have to click 2x
20:48 * oleonard falls over from exhaustion after the second click
20:49 wizzyrea hehehe
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20:50 * gmcharlt smells a new syspref - ProtectCircDeskStaffFromTerminalExhaustion
20:50 wizzyrea mmmm smells like cookies
20:50 gmcharlt though seriously, I think the best way to decide would be to implement both
20:50 do some testing
20:50 and see if directly checking out from the alert is OK or is leading to too many errors
20:51 wizzyrea I mean, these are holds that are already waiting
20:53 oleonard The simplicity of the implementation is tempting
20:57 wizzyrea Do we like the idea enough for me to file an enh bug?
20:57 oleonard Sure why not
20:57 wizzyrea k
20:59 oleonard anyway, the idea will nag my brain until I work up a patch
20:59 wizzyrea hahaha
21:00 oleonard wizzyrea: Then you can set up the A/B testing with a couple of your libraries as guinea pigs :P
21:02 wizzyrea :) I could certainly have them look it over
21:02 bug 5739
21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5739 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Check out waiting holds directly from "hold waiting" alerts on circulation screen
21:08 wizzyrea lol I just sent my librarian the link and she was pretty excited.
21:08 welcome to the world of open source :)
21:09 this reverse fine thing is really useful for testing lol
21:09 fine on! fine off!
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21:14 jcamins chris_n: around?
21:14 chris_n: never mind.
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21:22 oleonard Well, my fresh patch for Bug 2170 does what I thought the patch for Bug 5720 was going to do
21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2170 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Adding 'edititems' user-permission
21:22 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5720 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Fixing permissions for addbiblio.pl
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21:50 jcamins Hey, I have a question about the timing of the Template::Toolkit changeover- is it the last feature that goes into 3.4?
21:53 eythian jcamins: rangi is likely to be away for a while, so may not be able to answer that for a bit. Unless his plane hasn't left yet.
21:58 jcamins eythian: yeah, I know rangi is away, but I wasn't sure if other people knew.
21:58 eythian OK, cool. I'm not sure either.
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22:36 druthb nearly_free_public_wifi++
22:37 jcamins unopenable_laptops--
22:37 gmcharlt the synchronicity of that is ... interesting
22:37 druthb hee hee
22:38 hi, gmcharlt!
22:38 gmcharlt howdy
22:38 wahanui que tal, gmcharlt
22:38 * wizzyrea hasn't met one she can't open (even if that involves a hammer)
22:38 * jcamins doesn't want to use a hammer on his shiny macbook pro.
22:38 wizzyrea probably not the optimal solution for that
22:39 gmcharlt jcamins: eek.  since when did macbook pros come with locking cases?
22:39 jcamins gmcharlt: they have bizarrely-oriented screws.
22:39 To clarify, I'm able to use the laptop.
22:40 gmcharlt ah, you mean commit that which Jobs hath expressly forbidden
22:40 wizzyrea OPEN IT
22:40 :)
22:40 jcamins However, I just got desperately-needed RAM and discovered that there is no way I was going to be able to install said RAM.
22:41 eythian goodness. You want to _modify_ your mac? Have you the brainworms?
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22:41 * wizzyrea has a 15 and got in just fine tyvm
22:41 jcamins So after class tomorrow I'll be taking a trip to NYU's friendly neighborhood Apple Authorized Service Provider (like the snake;) to have the memory installed.
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22:42 * druthb grumps a little.
22:44 groans....overbooked!
22:44 wizzyrea doh
22:45 druthb yah.
22:46 Fortnuately, I'm not one of those fools^H^H^H^H^Hnutjubs^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpersons who insist on carrying a bunch of crap aboard.  just my lappy case and coat.
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22:53 druthb networks_with_hiccups--
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23:01 druthb Better get ready to board.  See y'all soon!
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