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| 01:02 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 01:02 | chris | hiya Brooke |
| 01:02 | Brooke | :) |
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| 01:41 | * Brooke | waves to druth |
| 01:42 | * druthb | waves back at Brooke. :) |
| 01:49 | * Brooke | is coming dangerously close to messin' with Tejas. |
| 01:49 | druthb | :P mess with 'em. |
| 02:20 | * Brooke | ponders the meaning of life in the monastic resonation of #koha. |
| 02:22 | * ibeardsle | was about to look up our local council library for either the Monty Python movie or HHGTTG .. but remembered 'we' use a non-koha system |
| 02:23 | Brooke | are you not automated at all? |
| 02:23 | druthb | Pie Iesu domine, |
| 02:23 | * druthb | whacks herself in the forehead. |
| 02:23 | ibeardsle | there would be no "monastic resonation of #koha" with a system that wasn't koha |
| 02:23 | druthb | dona eis requiem |
| 02:23 | * druthb | whacks herself in the head again, and shambles back to her corner. |
| 02:23 | Brooke | yeah but I wouldn't have to ponder the meaning of life |
| 02:24 | cause someone would say summat :P | |
| 02:30 | chris | god damned wiki spammers |
| 02:31 | Brooke | get im! |
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| 03:16 | wasabi | more w0w gold, or ugg boots? |
| 03:16 | chris | stock crap |
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| 03:29 | kmkale | good morning all |
| 03:32 | chris | hi kmkale |
| 03:32 | kmkale | hi chris |
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| 03:40 | Amit | heya all |
| 03:40 | chris | hi amit |
| 03:40 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:40 | chris: R u coming to india for worldcup | |
| 03:41 | chris | nope |
| 03:50 | kmkale | hi Amit |
| 03:50 | Amit | heya kmkale |
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| 05:20 | ronald | hi koha, can anyone point me to why i tried the links from my catalogue search and got this "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1219"? |
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| 06:27 | ebegin | I was asked a question today for which I don't know the answer... (believe it or not ;) ) |
| 06:28 | Can a user search Koha in a form : Title starting with __________ | |
| 06:30 | kmkale | In Staff client search if I search a Author's name with Author as phrase I get results but If I search it with Personal Name I dont get any results. What is wrong? |
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| 07:18 | Oak | \o |
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| 08:25 | paul_p | good morning #koha ! |
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| 09:01 | slef | @later tell Brooke Not sure which one you mean, but OK. |
| 09:01 | munin | slef: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:20 | cirbirian | hello everyone |
| 09:20 | greetings from spain | |
| 09:21 | I´m newbie with Koha and I´ve a doubt about cataloguing using Z39.50 | |
| 09:21 | I try to catalogue this book: "General Theory of Lie Groupoids and Lie Algebroids" | |
| 09:22 | y pick on z39.50 Search | |
| 09:22 | write the Title, choose LOC Z39.50 | |
| 09:23 | and when I import the book, there is not title | |
| 09:23 | there is not author | |
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| 09:23 | cirbirian | also there is not date |
| 09:24 | why? | |
| 09:24 | the author appears in field 100.a (General Proceesing Data) | |
| 09:25 | can you helpme | |
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| 09:33 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 09:48 | slef | cirbirian: are you a unimarc library? |
| 09:48 | @marc 100 a | |
| 09:48 | munin | slef: Personal name A surname and/or forename; letters, initials, abbreviations, phrases, or numbers used in place of a name; or a family name. |
| 09:49 | slef | you see, that's 100$a in MARC21 and LOC uses MARC21. If you use unimarc, LOC is not sending useful data. |
| 09:50 | cirbirian: greetings by the way. One of my colleagues is in Spain, but not here now. | |
| 09:50 | wasabi | lol, ah yeah… welcome to your daily marc-wtf :) |
| 09:50 | heya cirbirian | |
| 09:51 | go spain!! :) | |
| 09:51 | go xercode!!! | |
| 09:52 | slef | wasabi-- |
| 09:53 | wasabi | oops, sorry - i thought cirbirian was from spain |
| 09:54 | oh, he is :-P | |
| 09:54 | slef | cirbirian is, but the co-op serves spain too... and I'm trying to help... but if cirbirian is a xercode customer, why ask here? |
| 09:55 | Koha vendors do not carve up the world along national borders | |
| 09:55 | wasabi | lol, i didnt say he was.... |
| 09:55 | cirbirian | hello again |
| 09:55 | yes | |
| 09:55 | i´m from spain | |
| 09:55 | in almeria | |
| 09:55 | now it´s rainning a lot! | |
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| 09:56 | slef | @wunder almeria, Spain |
| 09:56 | munin | slef: The current temperature in Almeria, Spain is 10.0�C (10:30 AM CET on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:56 | wasabi | im just a xercode fan, coz they donated to kohacon2010…. thats all.. :) |
| 09:56 | cirbirian | friends, I´ve to go now |
| 09:56 | but in 30-45 mins I´ll back again | |
| 09:56 | wasabi | i really appreciated their guesture |
| 09:56 | cool, cya cirbirian | |
| 09:56 | slef | wasabi: we offered. Not taken up in the end. |
| 09:57 | cirbirian | see you later |
| 09:57 | wasabi | ahh, click |
| 09:58 | slef | but hey, we're bidding for kohacon11, although I think Nepal may win |
| 09:59 | wasabi | hey… its still fine for a guy to come to #koha, as ask a Q tho... |
| 10:00 | … regardless of who she/he works for/with | |
| 10:00 | wasabi++ | |
| 10:00 | munin | wasabi: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
| 10:01 | slef | yeah, but it makes me wonder if their vendor is not supporting their clients |
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| 10:02 | wasabi | perhaps he's just a proactive problem solver, like the rest of us :) |
| 10:02 | hey… thats why im' 'always-on' on #koha too ;) | |
| 10:03 | well, and the weather updates too! , lol | |
| 10:03 | kf | wasabi++ |
| 10:03 | slef: I support uk - although it might be a little egoistic | |
| 10:04 | wasabi | all good.. nepal sounds *very* exciting too!! |
| 10:04 | * wasabi | wonders what the vege-type food is like in nepal… |
| 10:04 | wasabi | ive no idea... |
| 10:05 | slef | wasabi: oh yeah, for sure. But don't assume everyone in Spain buys from xercode or everyone in the US buys from ByWater... it upsets me ;-) |
| 10:06 | wasabi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_cuisine |
| 10:06 | w0w, looks good! | |
| 10:07 | slef: i didnt assume that before tho :) | |
| 10:08 | i just said ," yay spain, yay xercode", thats all …. | |
| 10:08 | no assumptions there :) | |
| 10:08 | slef | wasabi: well, randomly cheering a competing vendor while I'm here helping is a bit upsetting. |
| 10:09 | wasabi | lol, programmers... |
| 10:09 | slef | kf: do you mean egoistic or selfish? |
| 10:09 | kf: either way, thank you for your support :) | |
| 10:09 | wasabi | slef: yep, you are right there, sorry... |
| 10:11 | slef | wasabi: np |
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| 10:11 | wasabi | and good spotting on the marc21/unimarc too |
| 10:12 | i didnt twig to it :/ | |
| 10:12 | kf | slef: can you explain the difference? |
| 10:13 | wasabi | hmm, they are pretty similar to me |
| 10:13 | slef | kf: I think egoistic means self-pleasing (not in a bad way), whereas selfish means concerned with one's own needs (not necessarily in a bad way, but often is) |
| 10:15 | wasabi | ah, yeah there is a diff |
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| 10:15 | wasabi | selfish is not concerned with others |
| 10:16 | egotistical is *only* concerned with self | |
| 10:16 | but basically the same thing, said in two ways ? :) | |
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| 10:18 | wasabi | nepali food, via google -> http://bit.ly/gXcu0a |
| 10:19 | slef | wasabi: I think pleasure against needs is a different emphasis. |
| 10:19 | wasabi | wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg |
| 10:19 | slef | @quote add <wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg |
| 10:19 | munin | slef: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 10:19 | wasabi | *nod* nice point |
| 10:19 | slef | munin: swine! |
| 10:19 | munin | slef: Error: "swine!" is not a valid command. |
| 10:20 | wasabi | me try!! |
| 10:20 | @quote add <wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg | |
| 10:20 | munin | wasabi: The operation succeeded. Quote #119 added. |
| 10:20 | wasabi | . |
| 10:20 | oooh, worked :) | |
| 10:21 | @quote 119 | |
| 10:21 | munin | wasabi: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "119" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
| 10:21 | chris | @quote get 119 |
| 10:21 | munin | chris: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/b[…]8_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011) |
| 10:22 | wasabi | lol, ta :) |
| 10:22 | the pig has some bbq sauce on it?!? | |
| 10:23 | its quite 'reddish' of color | |
| 10:27 | chris | 2,270 |
| 10:29 | bout the same to the UK | |
| 10:30 | india wins for the cheapest of the 3 to get to | |
| 10:30 | kmkale | :) |
| 10:30 | chris | for me anyway |
| 10:31 | altho, i will be in vancouver | |
| 10:31 | kmkale | KohaCon without chris? |
| 10:32 | lets hope not | |
| 10:33 | chris | http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/ <-- presenting here |
| 10:34 | so might make sense to fly to kohacon from there, then home, of course then i will be away from the family for a while .. will have to figure it out | |
| 10:35 | kmkale | no clash of dates there :) |
| 10:36 | And we will take good care of you. Send you back refreshed ;) | |
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| 10:48 | chris | right bedtime, someone else can take over deleting spam |
| 10:48 | * chris | wanders off |
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| 11:00 | Ropuch | Hello #koha! |
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| 11:38 | kf | hi Ropuch :) |
| 11:38 | nice to see you! | |
| 11:38 | wasabi, slef: sorry phone calls | |
| 11:39 | Amit | heya kf |
| 11:39 | kf | hi Amit |
| 12:00 | Ropuch | Hi kf [; |
| 12:00 | Hello Amit | |
| 12:00 | Amit | heya Ropuch |
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| 12:27 | nengard | hello from under the snow |
| 12:28 | cirbirian | hello people |
| 12:28 | druthb | g'mornin. |
| 12:28 | kf | hi nengard and druthb :) |
| 12:29 | cirbirian | why when I try to make a search, the OPAC says: An Error has Occurred |
| 12:29 | Error 404 | |
| 12:29 | I´ve catalogued a book | |
| 12:29 | and when I try to make its search I get that error message | |
| 12:30 | wasabi | cirbirian: check your apache error.log 1st, alwayzz |
| 12:33 | nengard | hi kf |
| 12:33 | cirbirian | I´ve been playing with frameworks |
| 12:34 | yesterday I created a framework | |
| 12:34 | and catalogued 1 book | |
| 12:34 | with that framework | |
| 12:34 | today I installed the FAST ADD framework | |
| 12:34 | and deleted the one I created yesterday | |
| 12:35 | I do not know if that has something to do with the error in the search | |
| 12:36 | wasabi | yeah, probably ;) |
| 12:36 | cirbirian | so what can I do? |
| 12:36 | wasabi | you can test that by loading in your old frameworks, |
| 12:36 | cirbirian | thanks to god I´m just trying |
| 12:37 | my I deleted the old framework | |
| 12:37 | but I deleted.. | |
| 12:37 | wasabi | the one from your backup, before you did the framework change, etc... |
| 12:37 | cirbirian | i think the problem is bigger |
| 12:37 | because if I catalogue 1 book with the new and actived framework (FAST ADD FRAMEWORK) | |
| 12:38 | the book doesn´t appear in the search | |
| 12:38 | I get the same 404 error | |
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| 12:38 | wasabi | yep, check that error log |
| 12:39 | cirbirian | it´s strange |
| 12:39 | wasabi | start your testing on a system, before you change/break it |
| 12:39 | cirbirian | the error log only show logs until 26 january |
| 12:40 | yes | |
| 12:40 | koha is installed in a laptop | |
| 12:40 | kf | cirbirian: are your cronjobs configured for reindexing? |
| 12:40 | cirbirian | for testing purposing |
| 12:40 | kf | and you should always keep the default framework, even if you are not using it |
| 12:41 | cirbirian | yes it´s keeped |
| 12:41 | I don´t use it | |
| 12:41 | <kf> what is cronjobs? | |
| 12:41 | wasabi | yeah, start the install again... |
| 12:41 | take a backup, get the search working | |
| 12:42 | then start fiddling | |
| 12:42 | cirbirian | I´m lost :( |
| 12:42 | should I reinstall again Koha? | |
| 12:43 | wasabi | yeah, def. |
| 12:43 | cirbirian | ok |
| 12:43 | I promise I won´t delete any framework | |
| 12:43 | nevermore | |
| 12:43 | wasabi | then a mysqldump backup... |
| 12:43 | cirbirian | friends I´ve to go to launch |
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| 12:44 | cirbirian | I´ll be back around 14:30 PM (in Spain) |
| 12:44 | wasabi | choose zebra option |
| 12:44 | druthb | hi, jwagner |
| 12:44 | cirbirian | thanks |
| 12:44 | wasabi | and dev install |
| 12:44 | kf | cirbirian: the cronjobs do the indexing |
| 12:44 | so you can search | |
| 12:44 | and remove deleted titles from the index | |
| 12:44 | jwagner | hi druthb and all |
| 12:44 | kf | I think part of your problem sounds like indexing problems |
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| 12:45 | cirbirian | I think if I reinstall again I should not get that errors |
| 12:45 | and I´ll be more careful | |
| 12:45 | wasabi | cirbirian: you shouldnt need to make *any* changes after a fresh install to create/import and bib |
| 12:45 | and search successfully for the bib | |
| 12:46 | cirbirian | ok |
| 12:46 | wasabi | so concentrate on that 1st |
| 12:46 | cirbirian | reinstall then |
| 12:46 | I go | |
| 12:46 | See you later | |
| 12:46 | wasabi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…];f=INSTALL.debian |
| 12:47 | read that 1st | |
| 12:47 | re: cronjobs | |
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| 12:56 | kmkale | I have author name in 100$a MARC21. In Staff client if I search a Author's name with Author as phrase I get results but If I search it with Personal Name I dont get any results. What is wrong? |
| 12:59 | wasabi | personal-name is 600$a in marc21 |
| 13:00 | and works for me, on 3.2.3 | |
| 13:01 | kmkale | thanks wasabi Will try it |
| 13:02 | wasabi | search for personal-name here http://head.kohaaloha.com |
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| 13:02 | wasabi | search on 'gra' |
| 13:03 | http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-[…]l?biblionumber=31 | |
| 13:03 | 600 10 - SUBJECT ADDED ENTRY--PERSONAL NAME Personal name Grant, Alexander | |
| 13:03 | kmkale | @marc 100 a |
| 13:03 | munin | kmkale: Personal name A surname and/or forename; letters, initials, abbreviations, phrases, or numbers used in place of a name; or a family name. |
| 13:04 | kmkale | @marc 600 a |
| 13:04 | munin | kmkale: Personal name |
| 13:04 | kmkale | humph!! |
| 13:04 | wasabi | lol, daily marc-wtf ;) |
| 13:05 | kmkale | ;) |
| 13:05 | wasabi | kmkale: pass, im not really a cataloger :/ |
| 13:05 | ebegin | good morning |
| 13:06 | kmkale | good morning ebegin |
| 13:06 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, quebec |
| 13:06 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is -6.0�C (7:00 AM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:06 | kmkale | me too wasabi |
| 13:06 | ebegin | Getting hotter :) |
| 13:07 | wasabi | kmkale: its a confusing search, i think |
| 13:07 | ebegin | Is there a way to search without the left truncation in order to have a kind of "Search title starting with _____" |
| 13:08 | kmkale | wasabi: MARC is confucing I think :) |
| 13:09 | wasabi | most people dont realize they are ?only? searching the 6xx fields on a 'personal-name' search |
| 13:10 | kmkale | ebegin: is there a way to search for middle part of a word? for example search for xam in 'example'? (does it even make sense to search like that?). I just had this query from a librarian :( |
| 13:12 | wasabi | ebegin: pass on that one |
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| 13:14 | wasabi | kmkale: whew.. looks like a personal-name search is widered than just the 6xx stuff |
| 13:14 | fields 100, 400, 600, 700, 800 | |
| 13:15 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0238;hb=HEAD#l533 | |
| 13:15 | wider | |
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| 13:18 | ebegin | kmkale, I think koha should find that 'xam' in example... |
| 13:19 | kmkale | its not doing it on my catalogue right now. |
| 13:21 | so for personal name the cataloguer has to choose which of the *00$a is right for the item type s/he is cataloguing is that it? | |
| 13:21 | * gmcharlt | wonders about that - it's not like 'xam' has any linguistic meaning all by itself |
| 13:22 | druthb | kmkale: the type of item doesn't have much to do with it. + |
| 13:22 | gmcharlt | ebegin: do you know what search the librarian is trying to do for real? |
| 13:23 | druthb | The field to choose has to do with the relationship between the person named, and the item. 100, if the person is the primary author, 700, if they are an added or partial author...600, if the book is *about* them as a subject, and so on. |
| 13:23 | kmkale | so they just put the personal name in all fields 100, 400, 600, 700, 800? |
| 13:23 | wasabi | kmkale: a cataloger knows which field to chose, 1xx or 6xx, etc |
| 13:23 | kmkale | oh |
| 13:23 | wasabi | lol, no |
| 13:23 | ebegin | gmcharlt, find all documents starting by "Reports" for instance |
| 13:23 | kmkale | but then when in staff we search on personal name and name as phrase it s bit confusing IMHO |
| 13:23 | druthb | catalogers spend a ton of time learning this stuff. Incredible detail can go into those records. |
| 13:24 | wasabi | if in doubt, *i* would just choose one |
| 13:24 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:24 | jcamins | I can confirm that it makes a huge difference which x00 field is chosen. |
| 13:24 | And, good morning. | |
| 13:24 | kmkale | good morning jcamins |
| 13:24 | druthb | g'morning, jcamins! |
| 13:24 | ebegin | gmcharlt, and they doesn't want all document containing the word "reports" |
| 13:25 | gmcharlt | ebegin: thanks for clarifying - that kind of search (start of phrase or heading) is a little different from the 'xam' example |
| 13:26 | kmkale | i guess there is a reason why that kinda search is only there in staff interface. Library staff are suppoed to intuitively understand thye diference? |
| 13:26 | ebegin | gmcharlt, I agree. Basically, it to remove the left truncation... Is this possible? |
| 13:27 | gmcharlt | ebegin: in principle; I'd have to work out the details |
| 13:27 | ebegin | (I would have to add an option in the advanced search, of course |
| 13:27 | wasabi | kmkale: not intuitively , but yes, understand |
| 13:28 | kmkale | Good for them ( And me. Now I can tell them "You are supposed to know this!!" ;) ) |
| 13:28 | wasabi | those 'power-user' options confuse patrons, so are hidden by default, i assume |
| 13:29 | druthb is now known as drb_food | |
| 13:30 | jcamins | kmkale: just so you know, corporate name searches don't work properly at the moment. |
| 13:30 | There's a bug in the indexing. | |
| 13:30 | I'll be submitting a patch. | |
| 13:31 | wasabi | kmkale: if in doubt with searching, turn the debug up , and watch the log |
| 13:32 | you can see the query being built, and sent to zebra , etc | |
| 13:32 | so you then know what zebra indexes are being searched | |
| 13:32 | kmkale | I dont want to be the one telling the librarians this MARC stuff. They are supposed to tell me!! But here the public libraries are so under funded, they never have qualified staff. |
| 13:34 | wasabi | teach them to use irc, they can ask themselves :) |
| 13:35 | seriously, its a novel idea | |
| 13:36 | kmkale | Yup. Wherever we go with granthalaya.org we try. VPM librarians help in training them. |
| 13:37 | wasabi | an always-on #irc channel of experts is something no other $ILS-VENDOR could offer |
| 13:38 | kmkale | :) wasabi good idea. Get them on #koha. Its the friendliest channel I know :) |
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| 13:38 | jcamins | @later tell cait I'm looking at Marcel de Rooy's patch for bug 5622. A) It's really cool! B) if you added a test for leader19='c' for the "Set" label, would that meet your needs? |
| 13:38 | munin | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:06 | owen | tcohen here? |
| 14:06 | tcohen | yeap |
| 14:07 | owen | There's instructions on the wiki on how to sign off on a patch, but you need someone else to sign off on yours |
| 14:07 | tcohen | perfect |
| 14:07 | i'll check it out | |
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| 14:12 | owen | tcohen: How do you test Bug 4903? |
| 14:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4903 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, OAI doesn't work out of the box - XSL path |
| 14:12 | tcohen | PKP Harvester on http://catalogo.biblio.unc.edu.ar |
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| 14:13 | owen | Let me rephrase that :) |
| 14:13 | How do *I* test the bug? | |
| 14:13 | tcohen | on unpatched installs retreival fails and logs say a (wrong) path to the xsl file doesn't exist |
| 14:14 | owen: i don't get it | |
| 14:14 | owen | How can I confirm the bug on my own local installation |
| 14:15 | tcohen | the problem arises on a 'standard' install, when trying to retreive records |
| 14:15 | via OAI | |
| 14:15 | it works as-is on a dev install, but not a standard one | |
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| 14:19 | * owen | has a dev install, so I can't help |
| 14:19 | kmkale | yippe on Ubuntu 11.04 I only had to install one perl module Locale::Currency::Format from CPAN. And Storable to get the required version :) |
| 14:19 | owen | Anyone know what Koha is doing when it searches "Publication Date (yyyy)" ? |
| 14:20 | The results page says "'yr,st-numeric:" | |
| 14:20 | But the results are not limited to the year I'm searching | |
| 14:22 | sekjal | owen: pubyear: 008/7-10, indexed in year,word,num,sort indexes |
| 14:22 | (from record.abs) | |
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| 14:24 | owen | In my search for "2010" the first hit I get is a 2008 record |
| 14:25 | jcamins_a | owen: Really? |
| 14:26 | owen | Honest :) |
| 14:26 | jcamins_a | I just tried it in your catalog and it worked right. |
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| 14:26 | chris_n | refresh my very short memory: where do we setup the library hours of operation? |
| 14:28 | owen | jcamins: I'm trying this in my test installation |
| 14:28 | jcamins | owen: oh. |
| 14:28 | Right. | |
| 14:29 | jwagner | chris_n, Tools, Calendar |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Mis-cataloged? |
| 14:29 | owen | jcamins: What test did you try in our live catalog? Was it in the OPAC? |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:30 | Are you in the staff client and getting different results than the OPAC | |
| 14:30 | chris_n | jwagner: yes, but this assumes the library is open from midnight to midnight |
| 14:30 | hdl | hi all |
| 14:30 | chris_n | hi hdl |
| 14:31 | jwagner | chris_n, sorry, didn't read the "hours" part closely enough :-) |
| 14:31 | chris_n | :) |
| 14:31 | owen | jcamins: I'm trying an advanced search, choosing "Publication Date (yyyy)" from the dropdown |
| 14:31 | hdl | chris_n: I don't think it is defined somewhere. |
| 14:31 | paul_p | hello american ppl ! |
| 14:31 | * chris_n | figures he will just setup the cronjob to calc overdues at the hour the library closes... |
| 14:31 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 14:31 | chris_n | hi paul_p |
| 14:32 | jcamins | That dropdown has issues. |
| 14:32 | paul_p | owen, do you have a few minut to spend on #5575? your comment 23 does not clearly show wether there is something to do still |
| 14:32 | (at least I don't know if I have something to do ;-) ) | |
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| 14:33 | jwagner | chris_n, will that work for overdues? It's looking for the date the item is due, so doesn't it have to be run after midnight? |
| 14:34 | owen | The advanced search on Publication Date (YYYY) is constructed differently than the OPAC's "Publication date range" search |
| 14:35 | jwagner | There are one or more bug reports on the pubyear search, aren't there? |
| 14:35 | chris_n | jwagner: I think you are right there... I didn't think of that |
| 14:35 | seems there may be a needed enhancement lurking here somewhere | |
| 14:36 | owen | paul_p: I haven't had time to work on that in a few days. I think that right now there isn't anything I'm waiting to hear from you about. |
| 14:36 | I do want to do more testing. | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | owen: I can confirm there's a bug, but I have no idea what it is. |
| 14:36 | paul_p | owen, any timeline for those testings ? |
| 14:37 | (owen: did I tell you I *really* appreciate the time you spend on our branches) | |
| 14:37 | owen | Sorry, no |
| 14:37 | paul_p: I would much prefer to be testing your stuff today, but other stuff is taking precedence. | |
| 14:49 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "make test errors" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/126 |
| 14:50 | kmkale | Anyone can give me a hint on this? ^ ^ |
| 14:57 | I am getting a bunch of "DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha-dev.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/kk/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 480." in make test. | |
| 14:57 | is that normal? | |
| 15:02 | sekjal | kmkale: what's your PERL5LIB environment variable? |
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| 15:04 | Nate | hello #koha! |
| 15:05 | kmkale | sekjal: its unset presently. Fresh install |
| 15:06 | sekjal | kmkale: and you can log into your koha-dev database? |
| 15:06 | kmkale | sekjal: yes |
| 15:06 | sekjal | hmmm |
| 15:06 | kmkale | no tables there |
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| 15:07 | sekjal | I remember something about an error where the make test tries to use the database before the database is created... not sure if/when that got solved |
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| 15:13 | wizzyrea | yes, that still happens afaik |
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| 16:02 | briceSanc | hello all |
| 16:02 | do you remember ? : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4501 | |
| 16:02 | munin | 04Bug 4501: critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Duplicate budget broken |
| 16:03 | briceSanc | is there an update about this bug ? What was the initial code used to duplicate a budget ? Do i need to build a new code ? |
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| 17:39 | paul_p | time to go back home for me. Some guests for dinner. Thanks for the constructive thread on koha-devel. |
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| 17:48 | chris | morning, can someone go back in time to 5am when i woke up, and stop atarau from poking me in the eye? |
| 17:50 | sekjal | chris: my TARDIS is still on order |
| 17:51 | should arrive anywhere from 10 years ago to next century... hard to say | |
| 17:51 | gmcharlt | that's the problem with TARDISs - if you actually take delivery of one, you can get it to yourself earlier - but nobody has gotten to that point yet |
| 17:52 | chris | hehe |
| 17:53 | owen | Assuming you're in an episode that allows travel back within your own timeline </nerd> |
| 17:53 | gmcharlt | true, avoiding an explosion that destorys the universe on redelivery is an issue |
| 17:53 | owen | Actually there isn't a </nerd> big enough to stop all my nerdiness. |
| 17:54 | chris | hehe |
| 17:54 | you just need caps | |
| 17:54 | </NERD> | |
| 17:54 | gmcharlt | whatever you do, do NOT shake hands with yourself |
| 17:54 | chris | fixed |
| 17:54 | sekjal | I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits |
| 17:55 | gmcharlt | @quote add <sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits |
| 17:55 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #120 added. |
| 17:55 | chris_n | git revert last-mistake |
| 17:55 | chris | in that case |
| 17:55 | git reset HEAD^ | |
| 17:55 | git stash | |
| 17:55 | there now i have an eye poke stashed for when i need it | |
| 17:56 | chris_n | hehe |
| 17:56 | owen | I'd love to hear the story that demands its application! |
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| 17:59 | chris | you never know |
| 17:59 | maybe the next time i try to sit through a bad movie | |
| 18:00 | git stash apply | |
| 18:00 | 'argh, now i have to go put a cold cloth on my eye, upside i dont have to watch the rest of this crap' | |
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| 18:42 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:42 | jcamins: around? | |
| 18:43 | nengard | koha newsletter published |
| 18:44 | cait | hi nengard++ |
| 18:44 | crazy day | |
| 18:44 | but got a rfid reader for testing :) | |
| 18:56 | drb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 18:57 | chris | @wunder wellington |
| 18:57 | munin | chris: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:57 | * druthb | returns, well-fed |
| 18:57 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 18:57 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:58 | chris | Its gotta be at least 17 now |
| 18:59 | ibeardsle | mmm morning coffee |
| 18:59 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:59 | hi druthb :) | |
| 18:59 | hi ibeardsle | |
| 19:00 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 19:00 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is 0.7�C (2:02 PM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:00 | chris | Heya cait |
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| 19:01 | chris | Thanks for the newsletter nengard |
| 19:01 | nengard | np |
| 19:01 | indradg | chris, got a few mins? |
| 19:01 | chris | For you, of course |
| 19:02 | indradg | :) |
| 19:02 | chris | I'm on the bus tho, so using my phone |
| 19:16 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 19:19 | chris | OK my stop bbiab |
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| 19:21 | sekjal | has anyone tried the bulk patron image uploader recently? |
| 19:21 | cait | never |
| 19:25 | gmcharlt | sekjal: three or four months ago |
| 19:31 | chris | back |
| 19:31 | not recently no sekjal | |
| 19:36 | ohh this freaking rocks | |
| 19:36 | http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=141 | |
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| 19:36 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 19:38 | owen | congrats on the new Koha libraries gmcharlt |
| 19:39 | hdl | good evening |
| 19:39 | owen | Who owns ".kohacatalog.com" ? |
| 19:39 | cait | what says whois? |
| 19:40 | ibeardsle | Equinox Software Inc |
| 19:40 | gmcharlt | owen: see http://kohacatalog.com/ for statement |
| 19:40 | owen: and thanks | |
| 19:40 | chris | they have a good policy |
| 19:40 | oh gmcharlt beat me | |
| 19:41 | owen | Awesome gmcharlt, I hadn't seen that before. |
| 19:41 | Much better than the verbal assurances Josh gave years ago about *.kohalibrary.com | |
| 19:41 | (especially given the track record of other similar assurances) | |
| 19:42 | * gmcharlt | is just waiting for somebody to ask for mylibrary.kohacatalog.com literally |
| 19:42 | chris | ill have it |
| 19:42 | there you go | |
| 19:42 | :) | |
| 19:42 | gmcharlt | chris: heh |
| 19:42 | * chris | has enough domains .. it would be cool to see that one used tho |
| 19:49 | Brooke | gmcharlt, don't beat chris unless he asks nicely. |
| 19:49 | * Brooke | ducks. |
| 19:50 | * druthb | tries to picture that, and, thankfully, fails. |
| 19:50 | chris | he'll have to wait until ALA |
| 19:50 | he missed his chance in october ;) | |
| 19:50 | owen | Nice to see mbreeding tweet about a #koha library that's real #koha. |
| 19:50 | chris | it is :) |
| 19:51 | good retweet from ibeardsle this morning | |
| 19:51 | http://twitter.com/#!/ibeardsl[…]30701260151721984 | |
| 19:52 | owen | :D |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | Brooke: how do you know that he didn't? ;) |
| 19:53 | Brooke | tee hee |
| 19:56 | * Brooke | shivers just thinking about Alberta during this time of year. |
| 20:11 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:11 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (9:00 PM CET on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:11 | jwagner | cait, since you've appeared :-) -- Bug 5664 |
| 20:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5664 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Bug with memberofinstitution and creating Organizational patrons |
| 20:11 | jwagner | What we were talking about yesterday. |
| 20:11 | * cait | hides |
| 20:11 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 20:11 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 0.1�C (3:10 PM EST on January 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:11 | jwagner | No, you don't have to do anything -- just letting you know it's there. |
| 20:12 | cait | ok :) |
| 20:12 | crazy day, will read a bit later and thx :) | |
| 20:13 | Brooke | awww |
| 20:13 | * Brooke | hands cait a cookie. |
| 20:14 | * jwagner | hands cait a cup of hot cocoa to go with it |
| 20:17 | cait | hehe thx |
| 20:17 | :) | |
| 20:28 | Brooke | moon over my spammy! |
| 20:28 | Koha Tikanga | |
| 20:28 | As with any culture, understanding Koha etiquette takes time, effort, and practice. If you are unsure about your conduct, seek out the Kaitiaki. | |
| 20:28 | The community is larger than any individual or any vendor. We are related and intertwined. Enthusiasm and fun nourish the project. | |
| 20:28 | There exists a white space of balance between the black of the developers and the red of the librarians. The pattern is harmonious and code absent all three is devoid of meaning. | |
| 20:28 | We build upon the work of the past, while seeking innovative twists. We aren't afraid to break from the pack if it means a better product for our users and their patrons. | |
| 20:28 | Call things as you see them. Constructive criticism is the fuel of innovation. Respecting another's mana and keeping discourse welcoming to newcomers is the lifeblood of the project. | |
| 20:28 | We pride ourselves on pairing high quality craftsmanship with unmatched accessibility. In the words of MJ Ray "The professionals have really messed stuff up for the artisans." | |
| 20:28 | While financial support is a fine fuel for development, alternatives are present. Professionals are paid in coin; artisans derive satisfaction from the work itself. | |
| 20:29 | chris | psst use the paste bot |
| 20:29 | http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
| 20:29 | Brooke | yeah I shoulda |
| 20:29 | I gots no excuse. | |
| 20:29 | druthb | too late! |
| 20:30 | Brooke | @munin roulette |
| 20:30 | munin | Brooke: Error: "munin" is not a valid command. |
| 20:30 | ibot | i already had it that way, munin. |
| 20:30 | Brooke | @roulette |
| 20:30 | munin | Brooke: *click* |
| 20:30 | Brooke | munin said it's fine. |
| 20:30 | munin | Brooke: Error: "said" is not a valid command. |
| 20:32 | cait | @roulette |
| 20:32 | munin | cait: *click* |
| 20:32 | Brooke | :) |
| 20:32 | can't shoot Cait. | |
| 20:32 | chris | Brooke++ |
| 20:32 | i like it | |
| 20:35 | sekjal | hmm, the snow and ice have ripped down the neighbours' awning |
| 20:35 | glad no one was under it when it went | |
| 20:37 | chris | yikes |
| 20:38 | sekjal | some absolutely wicked looking icicles hanging right above it all, too... next door is a perilous place to live, apparently |
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| 20:39 | owen | I've known some people who lived next door, but I've never lived there myself. |
| 20:40 | jwagner | owen, that's unneighborly of you! |
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| 20:41 | * owen_ | is now an unwitting neighbor to himself. |
| 20:41 | Brooke | tschuss |
| 20:41 | Brooke left #koha | |
| 20:42 | cait | :) |
| 20:42 | owen left #koha | |
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| 21:19 | hdl | @roulette |
| 21:19 | munin | hdl: *click* |
| 21:20 | chris | you are safe hdl .. buy a lottery ticket :-) |
| 21:21 | hdl | being virtually killed is not really exciting ;) |
| 21:21 | druthb | @roulette |
| 21:21 | munin | druthb: *click* |
| 21:21 | chris | heh |
| 21:31 | cait | @roulette |
| 21:31 | cait was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 21:31 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 21:31 | cait | :( |
| 21:31 | munin: it's not nice to shoot the person that gives you cookies! | |
| 21:31 | munin | cait: Error: "it's" is not a valid command. |
| 21:31 | cait | who gives you... |
| 21:32 | * druthb | gets out the first-aid kit for cait |
| 21:37 | * jwagner | decides to hang it up for the day.... |
| 21:37 | jwagner | G'night all. |
| 21:38 | cait | hm good plan, I have a book about sheep to read |
| 21:38 | jwagner | baaaaaa |
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| 21:41 | chris | cait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecg5P0u7Bo |
| 21:42 | cait | scary |
| 21:43 | can't find my book in english on amazon - it's a sheep thriller | |
| 21:43 | first volume is: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Ba[…]f=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1 | |
| 21:43 | druthb | sheep detective. that's different. |
| 21:46 | cait | reading time -bye all! |
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| 21:57 | sekjal | alrighty, time to brave the ice and snow |
| 21:57 | goodnight, #koha | |
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| 21:57 | hdl | good time |
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| 22:06 | chris | what time is it in california? |
| 22:22 | ibeardsle | http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]k/city.html?n=137 |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | be safe sekjal |
| 22:23 | it'll be... 2pm | |
| 22:23 | 2:25 | |
| 22:24 | chris | so the web seminar thingy is nearly finished |
| 22:24 | http://www.califa.org/edgylibrarian.php | |
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| 22:55 | chris | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erceptions2010.pl |
| 22:55 | havent read it yet | |
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| 23:20 | chris | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]oha+--+Libriotech |
| 23:20 | magnus aces it | |
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