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| 03:37 | Brooke | kia orda |
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| 03:37 | chris | hi Brooke |
| 03:37 | * Brooke | salutes Chris. |
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| 06:22 | chris | Evening |
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| 06:50 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03oleonard 07new/bug_5650 * rv3.02.00-592-gb69ad9d 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong |
| 06:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5650 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, item type page key wrong |
| 06:56 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03jcharaoui 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-593-g1fc16ea 10/misc/translator/LangInstaller.pm: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs |
| 06:56 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification |
| 06:58 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e6493249d4e700f7> / Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50b1ea62f228f3f2a> | |
| 07:00 | hudsonbot | Starting build 321 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #319 1 day 0 hr ago) |
| 07:06 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-594-g7d87094 10/docs/history.txt: History updated |
| 07:08 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: History updated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e10509b2ef5416de> |
| 07:09 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-595-g7f47715 10/docs/history.txt: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now |
| 07:09 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.2.3 is now available; 130 people have had code accepted into Koha | |
| 07:18 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49efad03dde67fdbb> |
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| 07:25 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 07:25 | Project Koha_Master build #321: FIXED in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/321/ | |
| 07:25 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong | |
| 07:25 | * Jerome Charaoui: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs | |
| 07:26 | Starting build 322 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) | |
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| 07:53 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #322: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/322/ |
| 07:53 | * Chris Cormack: History updated | |
| 07:53 | * Chris Cormack: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now | |
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| 08:22 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:22 | chris | heya kf |
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| 08:26 | kf | hi chris |
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| 08:48 | kf | guten morgen magnus :) |
| 08:48 | magnus | god morgen, kf! |
| 08:50 | kf | are you back now? |
| 08:56 | magnus | nope, i'm in Drammen today, the town where i grew up - then two days of conference in oslo (to talk for 15 minutes about why MARC must die...) and *then* home ;-) |
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| 09:02 | chris | how did your presentation go? |
| 09:02 | * kf | waves to jransom |
| 09:06 | magnus | hiya jransom! |
| 09:07 | chris: didn't get time to do the presentation | |
| 09:07 | but i did get to talk to some finns and swedes about koha - there seems to be quite a bit of interest in both countres | |
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| 09:08 | magnus | the finns have one or maybe two projects that are going to look at koha, i'm gonna investigate further |
| 09:10 | jransom | hiya all |
| 09:13 | magnus | wassup, jransom! |
| 09:14 | kf | jransom: your blog post confused me! :) |
| 09:16 | chris | magnus: good news |
| 09:17 | * wasabi | o |
| 09:17 | magnus | chris: yup - they have almost a monopoly situation i think, at least for public libraries, and some of them are quite eager to look for alternatives, i think |
| 09:17 | * magnus | o/ |
| 09:18 | wasabi | o/ \o |
| 09:18 | high-five! | |
| 09:18 | magnus | hehe |
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| 09:19 | jransom | yeah i know - i was a week early :D |
| 09:19 | it confused Chris too | |
| 09:19 | kf | and I was not awake :) |
| 09:19 | wasabi | magnus: sounds like some nice opportunities for you, over there.... |
| 09:24 | magnus | wasabi - might be, i'm keeping my eyes open... ;-) |
| 09:25 | jransom | smiles at wasabi |
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| 10:03 | wasabi | heya jo |
| 10:04 | chris: fyi, i still need to add the db-update bit, to my ratings code,,, | |
| 10:05 | i forgot that bit.., :0 | |
| 10:06 | but 1st, some food :) | |
| 10:07 | magnus | would that be the star ratings? |
| 10:07 | wasabi | yeah, that stuff |
| 10:08 | magnus | cool! |
| 10:10 | wasabi | https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]e/3.02.03-ratings |
| 10:10 | if you're curious, etc… | |
| 10:15 | jransom | good night all - i'm off to bed |
| 10:15 | kf | good night jo |
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| 10:35 | magnus | @wunder drammen, norway |
| 10:35 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Drammen, Norway is -5.8�C (11:35 AM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:37 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:37 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2�C (11:35 AM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:43 | paul_p | hello #koha waiting for my plane at Lille airport to go back home |
| 12:43 | (lille = far north of france, marseille far south !) | |
| 12:44 | jwagner | Hope you're having better travel weather than we are, today. Safe travels! |
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| 13:07 | kf | paul_p: safe travels |
| 13:07 | paul_p | hello kf ! |
| 13:08 | I've time, my plane is in 4 hours. Working at a comfortable desk, with powerplug, 3G internet, | |
| 13:10 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 13:10 | hi paul_p | |
| 13:19 | kf | hi kmkale :) |
| 13:20 | paul_p: at the airport? wow .) | |
| 13:20 | kmkale | busy? |
| 13:21 | paul_p | kf yep, it's a small airport, with 25 planes per day, maybe 30. So only a few ppl, only 8 sits on a desk, but only 1 person atm : me :D |
| 13:22 | kf | :) |
| 13:26 | druthb | I like those small airports--the one where I used to live ran about 5-10 airplanes a day, but had free wifi and (in the mornings) free coffee and juice and donuts. :) |
| 13:42 | kmkale | hi druthb |
| 13:43 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, quebec |
| 13:43 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -13.0�C (8:27 AM EST on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). |
| 13:43 | druthb | hi, kmkale. |
| 13:46 | paul_p | wow, -13°C ! |
| 13:46 | @wunder lille, france | |
| 13:46 | munin | paul_p: The current temperature in Lille, France is 5.0�C (2:30 PM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:47 | paul_p | better ;-) |
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| 13:58 | kf | oh, the problem irakli describes on the list would explain a problem we have seen with broken umlauts in callnumbers |
| 14:00 | ebegin | paul_p, we got a -27 earlier this week... |
| 14:01 | paul_p | brrr... I prefer +27, no doubts ! |
| 14:02 | ebegin | Me too :) |
| 14:03 | brb | |
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| 14:26 | briceSanc | hello all ! |
| 14:29 | I've a problem: I have a user with catalogue,acquisition,serials and reports permissions. He is unable to change the budget in the page /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl?booksellerid=1&basketno=26&biblionumber=2 | |
| 14:30 | sekjal | kf: your new bug, 5659. I think I've figured that one out, if its the same underlying cause as bug 3577 |
| 14:30 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3577 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Barcode.pl does not cater variable length branch codes in hbyymmincr format |
| 14:30 | briceSanc | Everytime, koha show a dialog : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
| 14:30 | I think there is a permission problem !? | |
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| 14:36 | cirbic | hello everybody |
| 14:36 | greetings from spain | |
| 14:37 | i´m a new librarian user of KOHA | |
| 14:37 | kf | sekjal: that's great |
| 14:37 | cirbic | can I make some questions to you? |
| 14:37 | i feel i´m lost in something | |
| 14:37 | kf | hi cirbic - greetings from Germany .) |
| 14:37 | cirbic | somethings |
| 14:38 | sekjal | cirbic: please do |
| 14:38 | cirbic | thx |
| 14:38 | sekjal | kf: would you be willing to test my patch? |
| 14:38 | kf | sekjal: our branch codes are the ISILs in all branches, so we have alphanumeric with hyphens |
| 14:38 | sekjal: of couse, send it along | |
| 14:38 | sekjal | kf: what address is best? |
| 14:39 | kf | send to my work mail |
| 14:39 | sekjal | kf: gotcha |
| 14:39 | Barrc | Hello - A quick question regarding 3.2. Is it possible to restrict certain tag being shown until a user logs into OPAC. Say, an 856 tag link that the site don't want viewable to the public, only to authenticated users? |
| 14:40 | sekjal | Barrc: not at this time... but it could be developed |
| 14:40 | Barrc | Pitty - does it sound like an easy thing to develop? I might give it a bash myself! |
| 14:41 | sekjal | Barrc: it's not trivial, but one way would be to have two different XSLT displays for the OPAC, one for logged in users, the other for the general public |
| 14:42 | this could be part of a larger development that allows the library to upload their own XSLTs | |
| 14:42 | cirbic | i work here www.psa.es |
| 14:42 | and i work in a specialised library | |
| 14:42 | before koha I used Microsoft Access | |
| 14:43 | Barrc | sekal: I see. OK, I will take a tentitave look and see how it hangs together....thanks |
| 14:43 | cirbic | but now We have made a new building for the Library |
| 14:43 | and now there are 5 consulting computers | |
| 14:44 | so we´ve decide to try KOHA | |
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| 14:44 | cirbic | (before there was not any OPAC) |
| 14:44 | well, its possible only to catalog with some fields? | |
| 14:44 | or better said | |
| 14:44 | kf | cirbic: please write koha or Koha - the upper case version is a red flag for some of us ;) |
| 14:45 | cirbic | Is it possible to catalog without using any MARC format? |
| 14:45 | only author, title, etc | |
| 14:46 | kf | cirbic: you will always have marc in the database, but you can only use a few fields |
| 14:46 | cirbic | I´ve got a database with 1841 items but the database is not in Marc format |
| 14:46 | kf | cirbic: you can limit to author, title and such and not work with authorities |
| 14:47 | filling in some of the coded fields makes sense though - for example the search for publication year needs a year in one of those fields | |
| 14:47 | cirbic | as I used Microsoft Access I made myself database: register number, title, author, edition, etc |
| 14:49 | I have made a new MARC Framework | |
| 14:49 | and tried to delete fields I don´t need | |
| 14:50 | but there are a lot of fields | |
| 14:50 | is that the way I´ve to do it?= | |
| 14:50 | ? | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | I wonder if the sample data's fast add framework would help you cirbic? |
| 14:51 | it's pretty stripped down | |
| 14:52 | cirbic | and where is that framework? |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | it might be easier to add what you need to it rather than take away what you don't need |
| 14:52 | * magnus | was just thinking the same thing ;-) |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | when you ran the web installer for koha you would have seen an option to install it |
| 14:52 | * wizzyrea | doesn't know how you would go about adding it after the fact |
| 14:52 | cirbic | mmmmm |
| 14:53 | briceSanc | I've a permission problem: I have a user with catalogue,acquisition,serials and reports permissions. He is unable to change the budget in the page /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl?booksellerid=1&basketno=26&biblionumber=2 .Everytime, koha show a dialog : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
| 14:53 | cirbic | I´ve to ask to computer department |
| 14:53 | briceSanc | (2nd try :D) |
| 14:53 | cirbic | (they made the installataion in a server) |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | briceSanc: the page is blank? |
| 14:54 | briceSanc | no |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | well blank except for the header? |
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| 14:54 | kf | cirbic: there are sql files in the installer/data/mysql/... folder, one of it is the FA framework |
| 14:55 | magnus | cirbic: fast add framework is here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ced61f1a8;hb=HEAD |
| 14:55 | cirbic | (and they had a lot of time because they had to compile the files; they installed it on debian) |
| 14:56 | briceSanc | wizzyrea, no i have all the interface but when i change the budget, Koha says over the page : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
| 14:56 | cirbic | ok |
| 14:56 | magnus | cirbic: if you download it as marc21_fastadd_framework.sql you can get it into Koha with this command, on the commandline: mysql -u [your koha user] -p < marc21_fastadd_framework.sql |
| 14:56 | * wizzyrea | should have thought that something like that was possible |
| 14:57 | magnus | cirbic: of course kf is right, you can find that file among the Koha files you get when you download it |
| 14:57 | cirbic | thanks |
| 14:57 | i´ll print this conversacion and give them it | |
| 14:57 | conversation | |
| 14:57 | magnus | cool! ;-) |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | briceSanc: perhaps you need editcatalogue |
| 14:58 | permissions | |
| 14:58 | but I haven't tested that | |
| 14:58 | briceSanc | ok i try |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | (i'm trying to duplicate your situation :)) |
| 14:58 | cirbic | where should I find some manuals to learn more about Koha? |
| 14:59 | kf | documentation? |
| 14:59 | ibot | somebody said documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 14:59 | briceSanc | wizzyrea, thanks :) |
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| 15:00 | cirbic | I´have to go |
| 15:00 | thanks to everybody | |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | ibot++ |
| 15:02 | briceSanc | wizzyrea, it works with "editcatalogue" permissions, it's weird :S |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | woot! |
| 15:02 | well it seems kind of logical to me | |
| 15:02 | catalogue is only to view the catalogue | |
| 15:02 | if you want to edit anything, you have to have editcatalogue | |
| 15:02 | * chris_n | reports more item availability weirdness |
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| 15:02 | wizzyrea | acq and cataloguing are intertwined |
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| 15:03 | briceSanc | nope in the permissions ;) |
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| 15:03 | wizzyrea | right, not in the permissions :) |
| 15:04 | chris_n | wizzyrea: is this the type of thing you were seeing: |
| 15:04 | http://oi56.tinypic.com/20gji9v.jpg | |
| 15:04 | vs | |
| 15:04 | briceSanc | wizzyrea, thanks for your help ! |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | briceSanc: glad to be of service :) |
| 15:05 | chris_n | http://oi52.tinypic.com/f83lx.jpg |
| 15:05 | the last item on the opac search screen shows no items available | |
| 15:05 | yet the staff shot shows the item is available | |
| 15:05 | * chris_n | is rebuilding the zebra index to see if it goes away |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | oh thanks, i was trying to figure out which was the right one :) |
| 15:06 | yes, that is exactly like what we were seeing | |
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| 15:06 | * chris_n | wonders if rebuild_zebra doesn't miss a lick on occasion |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | ^^ has wondered the same thing |
| 15:07 | but it seems it's happening more often | |
| 15:07 | chris_n | yikes! |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | we don't have a real working hypothesis on why it happens yet |
| 15:09 | kf | happens here too |
| 15:09 | we scheduled a complete reindex now once in a while | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 15:09 | * wizzyrea | had a suspicion it was the index, as that's what fixed it for us "a full reindex" |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | i can't spell, so sorry. |
| 15:10 | or.. bother. | |
| 15:10 | * chris_n | groans |
| 15:10 | chris_n | reindexing has now gone off to never-never land |
| 15:10 | * chris_n | is tempted to give his zebra a whack |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | use a whip |
| 15:12 | * chris_n | suddenly hears the angry chorus of librarian and patron voices off in the distance..... |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | do they not sleep? |
| 15:13 | chris_n | hehe |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | oh wait its a college, right? |
| 15:14 | chris_n | now, if I can only find the DND button on this desk phone.... |
| 15:14 | right | |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | ELL OH ELL |
| 15:14 | :) | |
| 15:18 | chris_n | fixed |
| 15:18 | * chris_n | 's anti-zebra bias has just been incremented by at *least* one |
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| 15:19 | wizzyrea | wow that was fast |
| 15:19 | chris_n | well... we are only talking 10k items |
| 15:20 | kf: how often do you do a full reindex? | |
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| 15:21 | wizzyrea | oh I just found more about the times we've seen it |
| 15:21 | instances go back at least 3 years | |
| 15:21 | Basically a record will be re indexed when a status changes which can fix the problem or sometimes they can fix themselves so it's really hard to determine how this resolves itself. | |
| 15:21 | so, if you checked it out and back in, it might fix it | |
| 15:21 | if zebra missed it or system load caused it to not make it into the queue | |
| 15:22 | chris_n | ahh |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | or something else that Im not thinking of |
| 15:23 | but I do wonder about that: perhaps there is a systemic reason that an item after being checked in, would not make it into the zebraqueue? | |
| 15:23 | maybe it's record didn't get written into the table? | |
| 15:29 | kf | chris_n: not sure - once a week or month |
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| 15:30 | kf | chris_n: would have to ask my coworker - it's quite new |
| 15:30 | and our libraries are pretty small - all around 50,000 biblios | |
| 15:30 | wizzyrea | yea ours takes hours and hours |
| 15:30 | it's an overnight maintenance thing | |
| 15:30 | kf | yeah, pretty fast for us |
| 15:31 | chris_n | I'm thinking of scheduling one a month on saturday evening after closing |
| 15:32 | better would be to fix the problem, though | |
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| 15:38 | wizzyrea | ya |
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| 15:46 | rhcl | Is the difference in electronic resource tags in the OPAC and staff client expected behavior? I/we strongly prefer having the tag. |
| 15:46 | http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/31/staffed.png | |
| 15:46 | http://img204.imageshack.us/im[…]4/8453/opaced.png | |
| 15:46 | plz to forgive klutzy image editing | |
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| 15:48 | Barrc | SIP anyone!? The last part of the SIP2 string requires a checksum. Doesn anybody know how this is calculated? Seems to be doing a 2's compliment and taking last 16 bits unsigned. I just can't figure out what string it's doing it on - anyone know? |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | ping atz |
| 15:49 | Barrc | huh? |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | atz probably knows the most about SIP of any of us |
| 15:50 | i was pinging him | |
| 15:50 | Barrc | I'm with you know - thanks |
| 15:51 | sekjal | rhcl: looks like your staff client isnt using the XSLT display for results |
| 15:52 | rhcl | well, ok, I'll contact my support team to get one of those. :) |
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| 15:55 | wizzyrea | it's in the sysprefs, you should be able to just turn it on |
| 15:55 | search xslt | |
| 16:01 | kf | rhcl: 856? |
| 16:02 | sekja: there is no xslt display for results | |
| 16:02 | sekjal | |
| 16:02 | in staff | |
| 16:02 | you can turn it on - but there is none so it will stay all the same | |
| 16:03 | for marc21 at least, it makes no difference if you turn it on or off | |
| 16:03 | sekjal | kf: really? I was sure I've seen that file... |
| 16:03 | kf | details |
| 16:03 | sekjal | wow |
| 16:03 | kf | or the change is quite new |
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| 16:09 | sekjal | wow, thanks, kf, I didn't know that was missing. |
| 16:09 | weird | |
| 16:10 | kf | was about to check git |
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| 16:23 | ebegin | quick question. Koha doesn't warn me when a mandatory field is not filled. It usually pops a dialog, but not at the moment... any idea ? |
| 16:24 | kf | pull down? |
| 16:24 | cataloging or acq? | |
| 16:24 | ebegin | cataloging |
| 16:24 | ibot | cataloging is right |
| 16:24 | kf | thx ibot |
| 16:24 | atz | Barrc: checksumming is completely problematic. |
| 16:24 | kf | is it a pull down? |
| 16:24 | like item type or branch? | |
| 16:24 | ebegin | non, it's when I'm saving a new record |
| 16:24 | kf | is the field marked with a * |
| 16:24 | ah | |
| 16:24 | ebegin | yep |
| 16:25 | kf | I noticed a problem with pull downs |
| 16:25 | not sure the bug is still open | |
| 16:25 | atz | the 3M "implementers handbook" describes a process but also makes representational assumptions about the underlying bit-depth and endianness of the values used |
| 16:26 | kf | bug 3727 |
| 16:26 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3727 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, If item type is mandatory in marc editor, itemtype is autofilled |
| 16:26 | ebegin | For example, I'm creating a new record, doesn't fill any information. Save the record. I usually get a message box telling me that the mandatory fields are empty. I don't get this message.. |
| 16:27 | atz | Barrc: also, it refers to the "ASCII values" of a system we have now returning UTF-8 data. i.e., nonsense. |
| 16:27 | kf | ebegin: which version? |
| 16:27 | ibot | which version are you upgraing from ? |
| 16:27 | ebegin | 3.0.6 |
| 16:28 | atz | Barrc: also, SIP2 doesn't actually require checksums for anything. it's configurable. after many months of wrestling w/ it (in EG's version of sipserver), I'm now against checksumming in SIP. |
| 16:29 | unless you happen to still be connecting with a 200-ft. serial cable (which is why it was included in the first place) | |
| 16:29 | rhcl | just getting ready to ask that... |
| 16:30 | atz | notably, TCP/IP has built in error detection |
| 16:30 | ebegin | did yahoo change the path to the yui ? |
| 16:31 | Barrc | atz: so is there no need for it? |
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| 16:34 | Barrc | checksum is...... "is four ASCII character digits representing the binary sum of the characters including the |
| 16:34 | first character of the transmission and up to and including the checksum field identifier characters....... | |
| 16:34 | But which characters is it! The string just sent or the on just received!!! Maybe I'll forget about it like you say! | |
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| 16:42 | kf | ebegin: sorry, have never worked with 3.0.6 |
| 16:44 | ebegin | no problem... its the first time I have that kind of behavior and I didn't change anything in the code. I tried with IE, on another PC, an another install... and still have the same behavior. really wierd |
| 16:45 | atz | Barrc: there is no technical need (in modern hardware) to use it. |
| 16:45 | Barrc | atz: Thanks. I will gladly forget about it!! |
| 16:46 | atz | it's calculated based on both strings sent and received. basically everything from the first character up to and including the "|AZ" is checksummed |
| 16:47 | obviously it wouldn't be of any value to calculate it on one side if it wasn't checked upon receipt | |
| 16:47 | Barrc | OK - and the sequence number. Is that required too? |
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| 16:50 | atz | i don't think koha or EG do much with it except logging. |
| 16:50 | you can send the same number each time w/o detriment | |
| 16:50 | Barrc | Great - thanks. |
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| 17:04 | wizzyrea | atz++ |
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| 17:04 | wizzyrea | ibot: forget cataloguing |
| 17:04 | ibot | wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching cataloguing |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | ibot: forget cataloging |
| 17:04 | ibot | wizzyrea: I forgot cataloging |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | whoa, in issues, what's the difference between issuingbranch and branchcode? |
| 17:06 | (branchcode is populated, issuingbranch seems NULL?!) | |
| 17:07 | sekjal | branchcode is the borrowers branch.... or the items... hmmm, have to check |
| 17:09 | looks like it's the branch of the currently logged in staff user | |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 17:10 | interesting that all of mine are null | |
| 17:11 | sekjal | branchcode, or issuingbranch, or both? |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | issuingbranch |
| 17:11 | jwagner | Aw, darn. They captured the Library of Congress hawk: http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2011/[…]ain-reading-room/ |
| 17:11 | I was rooting for the bird, myself! | |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | branchcode is populated by the logged in user, in my db |
| 17:11 | apparently | |
| 17:11 | * wizzyrea | gives up on trying to decode that |
| 17:11 | moves on | |
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| 18:13 | kf | bye all :) |
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| 18:13 | wizzyrea | later kf |
| 18:15 | wasabi | a random Q about koha version numbers, and updating…. |
| 18:16 | ok, so heres the latest commit for koha-3.2.3…. | |
| 18:16 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7740a42af59d9e4f8 | |
| 18:17 | i see chris_n incrementing the kohaversion number etc…. | |
| 18:17 | - our $VERSION = '3.02.02.001'; | |
| 18:17 | + our $VERSION = '3.02.03.000'; | |
| 18:18 | so, my Q is 'what value should my 'Version' syspref be to trigger this update? | |
| 18:19 | chris_n | anything previous to whatever is present in your kohaversion.pl |
| 18:19 | wasabi | well, heres the gotcha for me…. |
| 18:19 | chris_n | iirc we compare the syspref value to the kohaversion.pl value and upgrade if the later is newer than the former |
| 18:20 | wasabi | the numbering format for the sypref is in a difference format :/ |
| 18:20 | its currently '3.0300004' | |
| 18:20 | chris_n | yeah... that can be confusing |
| 18:20 | wasabi | um, which is less or greater that '3.02.03.000' ? |
| 18:21 | chris_n | you are on the master branch in that case |
| 18:21 | wasabi | hell yes |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:21 | chris_n | greater |
| 18:21 | ie | |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | 3.03 is greater than 3.02 |
| 18:21 | chris_n | 3.0300004 > 3.0203000 |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | we should ditch the leading 0 |
| 18:22 | chris_n | clear as mud yet? ;-) |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | officially |
| 18:23 | er, I suggest that we should ditch the leading 0 | |
| 18:23 | :P | |
| 18:23 | so 3.02 becomes 3.2 | |
| 18:23 | because that's how we routinely refer to it anyway | |
| 18:23 | wasabi | oops, my mistake.. ive been fiddling with my version number |
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| 18:24 | chris_n | I think its to preserve the thought that we would not go from 3.99.00.000 to 3.100.00.000 |
| 18:24 | which "could" be interpreted as 3.1 | |
| 18:25 | rather than 3.100 | |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea | realistically, are we ever going to have that problem? |
| 18:25 | * chris_n | quits trying to figure it out |
| 18:25 | chris_n | probably not |
| 18:26 | it will be a bad day when we go 99 releases without a major change | |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | esp since we do additional points for minor revisions instead of incrementing the middle version |
| 18:26 | chris_n | kohaversion.pl explains the "logic" of the number |
| 18:27 | the kohaversion is divided in 4 parts : | |
| 18:27 | - #1 : the major number. 3 atm | |
| 18:27 | - #2 : the functionnal release. 00 atm | |
| 18:27 | - #3 : the subnumber, moves only on a public release | |
| 18:27 | - #4 : the developer version. The 4th number is the database subversion. | |
| 18:27 | used by developers when the database changes. updatedatabase take care of the changes itself | |
| 18:27 | and is automatically called by Auth.pm when needed. | |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | yep that makes sense |
| 18:28 | i'd be super surprised if we ever hit a 3 digit functional release | |
| 18:28 | chris_n | but you're right... the placeholders probably don't matter |
| 18:29 | * chris_n | too |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | maybe in 100 years, on major version numbers |
| 18:29 | ;) | |
| 18:29 | chris_n | 100 years doesn't seem as long as it used to |
| 18:30 | sort of like $100 doesn't seem much now either :) | |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | windows is only version 7 |
| 18:30 | :P | |
| 18:30 | wasabi | i prefer the dotted.quad format of koha-version |
| 18:30 | chris_n | well when you have as much broken glass laying around as they do..... |
| 18:31 | besides, as I once heard: in a world without borders, who needs windows and who needs gates? | |
| 18:31 | wasabi | and would like to see it used consistently |
| 18:31 | chris | place holders do matter |
| 18:31 | * chris_n | really must go back to doing work |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | but it's confuuuuusing |
| 18:32 | :) | |
| 18:32 | chris | deal |
| 18:32 | chris_n | are those 'u's placeholders? |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | no, they're emulating the tone my 3 year old would probably take :) |
| 18:32 | wasabi | perhaps we just start to populate the syspref value as a dotted,quad in a later release |
| 18:33 | chris | seriously .. no |
| 18:33 | * wizzyrea | pouts |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | fine |
| 18:33 | ;) | |
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| 18:34 | chris | the about page reports it right, just copy from there |
| 18:34 | if you are poking at the version number yourself, then if you cant do it right, thats a sign | |
| 18:34 | STOP NOW | |
| 18:35 | wasabi | yes, thats fine for now... |
| 18:35 | but lets fix it in the future? | |
| 18:35 | chris | fix what? |
| 18:37 | wasabi | the syspref 'version' value eventually becomes a dotted.quad format |
| 18:37 | chris | yes, and no one should be manually messing with the syspref |
| 18:37 | wasabi | like in kohaversion.pl , about.pl and updatedatabase.pl, etc |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | just curious why we have it editable? |
| 18:38 | * chris_n | seems to recall that that syspref is not displayed in the new editor ? |
| 18:38 | * wizzyrea | goes to look |
| 18:38 | chris | yeah, its only in the old one |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | ah okies |
| 18:38 | wasabi | fyi, you can... |
| 18:40 | agreed, editing your version in sysprefs is bad | |
| 18:40 | … but checking there as a sanity check is good | |
| 18:40 | chris_n | editing the version number in syspref voids your warranty |
| 18:41 | wasabi | and getting the version in the same format as your friendly about.pl page is reassuring |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | ^^ i agree with this |
| 18:43 | chris | the compare then becomes more complicated |
| 18:43 | wasabi | cool, thats my *only* point here :) |
| 18:43 | chris | and since its done on every page |
| 18:44 | and in the scheme of things to work on .. i put it not even on the list | |
| 18:44 | lets fix some real bugs .,.. or signoff some patches .. theres a crap load waiting | |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | that's fair ^.^ |
| 18:50 | chris | bus time |
| 18:51 | wasabi | chris: i pushed up the ratings updatedatbase.pl stuff to github |
| 18:51 | https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]efe4fd9d0#L4L3917 | |
| 18:51 | atz | wizzyrea: editing the version number was useful for testing (and retesting) changes to updatedatabase |
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| 18:55 | wasabi | yeah, for testing that stuff, its waay useful |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | I grasp that |
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| 18:57 | wasabi | wizzyrea: say 'grok' girl... its cooler |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 18:57 | I almost did | |
| 18:57 | wasabi | i grok that |
| 18:57 | see :) | |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:03 | chris | Cool wasabi, will get it tested on master |
| 19:04 | Who all has an android phone here? | |
| 19:04 | Go to the market | |
| 19:04 | ibeardsle | still early .. I saw that as '.. tasted on master' |
| 19:04 | chris | Search for koha |
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| 19:04 | wizzyrea | me me oh me |
| 19:05 | chris | The app can now login and place holds |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 19:05 | chris | You should try configuring it to point at nekls |
| 19:05 | (All in settings) | |
| 19:05 | wasabi | w00t, thats very exciting stuff |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | oh, will that work? |
| 19:06 | chris | It should |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | blerg my phone has had a bit of a meltdown it seems |
| 19:06 | chris | Its designed to work with any koha |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | oh there now it's fixed |
| 19:08 | oh brilliant! | |
| 19:08 | chris | Alan thought it now does enough for a beta |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | hmmm nekls returns no results |
| 19:09 | wasabi | googling 'koha android' gives a bunch of results, too |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | !!! |
| 19:10 | wasabi | good to see the word gets round quickly |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | it scans! |
| 19:10 | sekjal | downloading Koha onto my Droid now |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | yo, that's pretty sweet |
| 19:11 | chris | Kiritaki Koha eh sekjal? |
| 19:11 | sekjal | yes |
| 19:11 | chris | Kiritaki = client |
| 19:16 | To make it more useful i want to take something like the ils-di but bound to a single user | |
| 19:16 | So an authenticated user can ask for data in json | |
| 19:16 | Which will allow for other clients easily too | |
| 19:18 | And easier integration with moodle/mahara etc | |
| 19:18 | Course its highly unlikely I will have time | |
| 19:19 | Unless I can find someone to pay for it | |
| 19:19 | jwagner | Anyone online who knows how syspref memberofinstitution is supposed to work? It says "If ON, patrons can be linked to institutions" |
| 19:20 | Reading the code, it seems that what it's looking for is any patron category with an Organizational code, but doesn't seem to work -- the pulldown in the patron record is empty. | |
| 19:21 | chris | My stop bbiab |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | do you have any organizational categories defined? |
| 19:23 | patron categories | |
| 19:24 | jwagner | Yes, two or three. It seems the option to set this only shows up if you're creating an organizational type patron. |
| 19:24 | But the pulldown should show the categories, shouldn't it? | |
| 19:24 | I've never tried working with this one before. | |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 19:25 | I dont think I have either | |
| 19:25 | jwagner | All I can find in the manual is the description on the syspref, which doesn't help. |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | maybe you need a patron that's an organization |
| 19:26 | * wizzyrea | goes to check |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | which pulldown in the patron record? |
| 19:29 | OH | |
| 19:29 | wait | |
| 19:30 | you don't see it when you're creating | |
| 19:30 | but you do when you edit | |
| 19:30 | how weird | |
| 19:33 | soooo... where does one define the organization. | |
| 19:33 | * wizzyrea | investigates |
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| 19:34 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:36 | jwagner | wizzyrea, I didn't see contents in the pulldown when I was editing either. |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | mine's not so much a pulldown as a selectable list that isn't populated |
| 19:37 | chris | chris_n: jinx! |
| 19:38 | jwagner | chris, since you're back, do you know how that one is supposed to work? |
| 19:38 | chris | i might have once, but cant remember |
| 19:38 | jwagner | As near as I can tell from looking at the code, the contents of the pulldown should be any of the patron categories that are organizational type. |
| 19:39 | * jwagner | is shocked that chris doesn't have an entire backup of his memory somewhere online :-) |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on disk somewhere. |
| 19:40 | do note: i'm not sure *where* exactly the disk is. | |
| 19:41 | * wizzyrea | was not very vigilant on testing those backups. May regret it later. |
| 19:41 | jwagner | You mean you want to be able to _access_ backups once you've made them??? |
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| 19:43 | wizzyrea | jwagner: it definitely seems broken, to me |
| 19:43 | chris | hi druthb |
| 19:44 | druthb | hi, chris! :) |
| 19:44 | jwagner | Thanks much. That doesn't mean I'm not hallucinating, but at least I'm not hallucinating about this one :-) |
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| 19:44 | jwagner | It seems to have been this way for quite a while -- I tested on current head and on some very old systems with the same result. |
| 19:45 | I'll open a bugzilla report as soon as I stomp out a couple of other fires. Thanks for checking. | |
| 19:46 | cait | jwagner: what is your problem? |
| 19:46 | linking professionals to organisations? | |
| 19:46 | jwagner | cait, trying to figure out how syspref memberofinstitution is supposed to work -- the patron record pulldown is empty. |
| 19:47 | If I'm reading the code right, and if there are organizational-type patron categories, those are what should show up in that pulldown, but nothing does. | |
| 19:52 | * wizzyrea | is now curious as to how this works as well, so if you figure it out plz share kthx |
| 19:52 | cait | hm |
| 19:52 | i tested that some time ago and it worked | |
| 19:52 | I even patched some things | |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | d'oh! |
| 19:53 | cait | because the search for organisation in professional patron didn't work and it didn't show thelinked patrons on the organisation |
| 19:53 | it works like the child/adult links | |
| 19:53 | jwagner: which version are you on? | |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | I was looking on something close to head |
| 19:55 | chris | psst head of which branch? |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | master, sorry |
| 19:55 | chris | :) |
| 19:55 | its my new pet peeve | |
| 19:56 | cait | jwagner: are you around a bit longer? |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | duly noted :) |
| 19:56 | cait | I have to do some other things first, but could look at it later |
| 19:57 | jwagner | cait, sorry, I was on another screen. I updated my current head server this morning, and I tested there among other places. |
| 19:57 | I don't presently have a server tracking chris_n's codeline | |
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| 19:58 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 19:59 | cait | jwagner: I have no working koha on this laptop - have to test on other laptop |
| 19:59 | can you describe your exaxt problem? | |
| 20:00 | jwagner | When you create a patron with an organizational type patron category, the pulldown shows but is empty -- no values to select from. |
| 20:00 | Am I right in thinking that the only time you'll see this is if you _are_ creating an organizational type patron? | |
| 20:00 | cait | which pull down? |
| 20:00 | jwagner | I just logged out of all my test servers -- let me get back in... |
| 20:01 | cait | starting other laptop :) |
| 20:01 | jwagner | It's labeled Organization(s): |
| 20:02 | cait | ok |
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| 20:09 | jwagner | cait, did you have a bugzilla entry for your patch? I didn't see anything recent when I searched. |
| 20:09 | cait | jwagner: I am confused |
| 20:09 | to entries | |
| 20:09 | 2 | |
| 20:09 | sorry | |
| 20:10 | jwagner: I can confirm it's not working now, let me check if I uploaded my doc to the wiki | |
| 20:10 | jwagner | So you see entries? Or not? |
| 20:10 | And are those entries the patron categories? | |
| 20:12 | cait | the box didn't show up when I tested it |
| 20:12 | it worked exactly like adult/child | |
| 20:12 | had a search for org in the professional patron, similar to guarantor search | |
| 20:12 | and it showed the links back and forth on tha patron summary screen | |
| 20:13 | jwagner: I wrote a doc for our customers, but can't access the file server from home | |
| 20:14 | jwagner | OK, if you remember tomorrow can you send that to me? I'll hold off creating a new bugzilla entry until I see what you've done. |
| 20:14 | cait | bug 5003 |
| 20:14 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5003 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Can not search for organisation by name |
| 20:16 | jwagner | Hmmm. I'm not sure that's the same problem. Gotta go work on another problem right now -- I'll follow up more tomorrow. Thanks. |
| 20:16 | hudsonbot | Starting build 48 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: FIXED) |
| 20:17 | cait | bug 5112 |
| 20:17 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5112 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Organisation does not show links to professional patrons |
| 20:18 | cait | jwagner: no, different things, but showing it was working back then |
| 20:18 | something seems to be broken now | |
| 20:24 | jwagner: organisation seems to be broken - not sure what the box should show. but you can still link from professional to organisaton. create a professional user, edit it - you can search for the org from the edit screen and link them together | |
| 20:25 | jwagner: I think the box can perhaps be ignored, the linked users will show on the org's patron screen | |
| 20:27 | jwagner | cait, thanks -- the second bug seems closer to the problem I'm having. I'll try either updating the bug report or opening a new one after investigating some more. |
| 20:27 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5654: remove disused directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca9fab1f3691bb3ab> |
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| 20:28 | * jcamins | realizes that he left his IRC away. |
| 20:28 | Brooke | tsv |
| 20:28 | this is why I nick your a on a routine basis. | |
| 20:29 | cait | jwagner: both bugs are solved - better open a new one. I think your problem is different. |
| 20:29 | hi brooke :) | |
| 20:29 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #48: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/48/ |
| 20:29 | Nicole C. Engard: add section about printing fine accountline invoices | |
| 20:29 | * Brooke | smiles at cait. |
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| 20:54 | Galen Charlton: bug 5654: remove disused directory | |
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| 21:09 | Michael | Hey Gang. |
| 21:09 | I need some help with an SQL report | |
| 21:10 | What I want is a list of items with a particular shelving location (="CG") and a datelastseen > DATE | |
| 21:10 | What I'm hung up on is coding for shelving location. | |
| 21:10 | Brooke | oh, almost a dusty book list |
| 21:10 | jcamins | items.ccode="CG" |
| 21:10 | Michael | items.loc = CG, perhaps? |
| 21:11 | yes, basically the opposite of a dusty book list | |
| 21:11 | Brooke | hmm |
| 21:11 | sekjal | items.location = "CG" |
| 21:11 | Michael | items.ccode="CG" ...okay, i'll give it a try...standby |
| 21:11 | Brooke | I thought there was an easier premade jigger for new books |
| 21:12 | Michael | well, there is one for New Books, but what I want is a list of items |
| 21:12 | that have been seen recently and that are in a particular shelving location | |
| 21:12 | Brooke | ah ha |
| 21:12 | circhorses. | |
| 21:12 | Michael | we did some inventory recently and i just want to know how many books I touched during that |
| 21:13 | Brooke | eventually it gets through me thick skull |
| 21:13 | incidentally | |
| 21:13 | this might help with other stuff | |
| 21:13 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library | |
| 21:13 | so mebbe | |
| 21:13 | you could add yours | |
| 21:13 | and what you had in mind :) | |
| 21:17 | Michael | yeah, that's how I've gotten as far as I have. |
| 21:17 | the reports library, i mean | |
| 21:20 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:20 | never know what ye know about | |
| 21:20 | so uh | |
| 21:20 | I'm redundant | |
| 21:22 | jcamins | ibot: sql report library? |
| 21:22 | ibot | i haven't a clue, jcamins |
| 21:22 | jcamins | SQL report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:22 | sql report library? | |
| 21:22 | ibot | sql report library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:22 | jcamins | :D |
| 21:22 | SQL reports library? | |
| 21:22 | ibot: SQL reports library? | |
| 21:22 | ibot | jcamins: i haven't a clue |
| 21:23 | jcamins | SQL reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:23 | ibot: SQL reports library? | |
| 21:23 | ibot | SQL reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:23 | Brooke | ibot botsnack sticky taffy |
| 21:23 | ibot | thanks Brooke :) |
| 21:25 | * jcamins | has solved his LAN problem- the new switch was plugged into itself, so nothing was reaching the router. |
| 21:28 | jwagner | snake eats tail? |
| 21:28 | or endless circular reference? | |
| 21:30 | Brooke | lan? |
| 21:30 | jcamins | Local Area Network. |
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| 21:30 | Brooke | stupid ibot |
| 21:30 | LAN? | |
| 21:30 | ooh he still doesn't know it | |
| 21:30 | not worth a new dogtrick, though | |
| 21:32 | jwagner | OK, time to stop working and start staring at all the snow coming down outside :-) |
| 21:33 | * Brooke | is going through sabre withdrawal |
| 21:33 | Brooke | stupid cancelled classes. |
| 21:36 | ibeardsle | no training out on the street then? |
| 21:36 | Brooke | inorite?! |
| 21:36 | the rozzers are ever so unappreciative of such thigns. | |
| 21:36 | things even. | |
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| 21:41 | wizzyrea | LAN is an abbreviation for Local Area Network |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | bites |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | LAN? |
| 21:41 | ibot | LAN is an abbreviation for Local Area Network |
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| 21:42 | Brooke | you're spoilt ibot. |
| 21:42 | just puttin' that out there. | |
| 21:44 | mib_mike | Hi guys. I've got a problem that seems to have been solved. |
| 21:44 | Brooke | hooray |
| 21:44 | mib_mike | Can anyone give me more information about the patch described here: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/025411.html |
| 21:44 | Brooke | an already solved issue is the best kind |
| 21:44 | Michael | sthg is crashing my SQL report...could it be this line? |
| 21:44 | WHERE items.ccode="CG" AND datelastseen > '2010-12-15' | |
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| 21:45 | Michael | it must be items.ccode |
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| 21:46 | mib_mike | It's great to have a problem with a known solution, but it's especially frustrating if you're the only one who doesn't know it. |
| 21:48 | jcamins | Michael: your report is *crashing*? |
| 21:48 | Michael | what i mean by crashing is that it displays no results at all |
| 21:48 | jcamins | Michael: what's the entire query? |
| 21:49 | mib_mike: what version are you on? | |
| 21:49 | Michael | standby... |
| 21:50 | 3.01.00.145 | |
| 21:50 | mib_mike | Koha version:3.02.00.004 |
| 21:50 | Michael | ha, sorry, wrong mike. |
| 21:50 | SELECT biblio.title, items.datelastseen, items.ccode, items.barcode, items.itemcallnumber FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items ON biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber WHERE ccode="CG" AND datelastseen > 2010-12-15 ORDER BY items.itemcallnumber ASC | |
| 21:52 | cait | have you checked that there are items with ccode CG? |
| 21:53 | select ccode, count(*) from items group by ccode would be a way to show you all used ccodes | |
| 21:53 | Michael | okay, standby |
| 21:54 | jcamins | Michael: I think you need to compare dates in a special way. |
| 21:54 | No, you just need to put the date in ''s. | |
| 21:54 | Those are single quotes. | |
| 21:54 | mib_mike | Michael: try "select distinct ccode from items;" |
| 21:55 | jcamins | mib_mike: I think someone fixed relevance ranking, but I don't remember how. |
| 21:55 | mib_mike | ARG! |
| 21:55 | I HATE when that happens B-) | |
| 21:56 | Any idea where I can begin my search? | |
| 21:56 | jcamins | mib_mike: are you able to upgrade? |
| 21:56 | mib_mike | It's not a good time to upgrade. I've just got a couple of days between projects. |
| 21:56 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 21:56 | I know it's definitely fixed on Master. | |
| 21:56 | chris | mib_mike: turn autotruncation off |
| 21:57 | and then you will get much more relevant results | |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Ah, I was hoping chris would appear to answer your question. :) |
| 21:57 | chris | its a toggle in system preferences |
| 21:57 | so give it a whirl, you can always put it back | |
| 21:57 | mib_mike | QueryAutoTruncate ? |
| 21:58 | chris | yeah whats that set to now? |
| 21:58 | mib_mike | It's on "automatically" |
| 21:58 | I'll give that a shot. | |
| 21:58 | chris | yeah, change that |
| 21:58 | cool | |
| 21:58 | playing with the others too is sometimes helpful | |
| 21:59 | mib_mike | I'll look for preferences with "query"? |
| 22:00 | chris | just look in the search tab |
| 22:00 | mib_mike | Yeah, I guess that would be another way B-) |
| 22:01 | Can anyone help me decipher the value of NoZebraIndexes? Are those MARC fields? | |
| 22:02 | jcamins | mib_mike: those are for when you're not using Zebra. |
| 22:02 | chris | yeah, dont touch them |
| 22:02 | jcamins | You don't want to run Koha without using Zebra. |
| 22:02 | chris | have you just tried the auto truncate, and a new search .. you dont want to change lots at once, you wont know what made the difference if you do :-) |
| 22:03 | cait | bye all :) |
| 22:03 | mib_mike | Thanks for your suggestions, chris, jcamins |
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| 22:04 | Michael | Are you sure ccode represents shelving location? |
| 22:04 | chris | nope |
| 22:04 | thats why smeone said location | |
| 22:04 | Michael | Because when I request that as one of my columns, that column is blank for all 9000+ results |
| 22:04 | chris | 10:13 < sekjal> items.location = "CG" |
| 22:04 | 10:13 < Michael> items.ccode="CG" ...okay, i'll give it a try...standby | |
| 22:05 | Michael | I'll try location... |
| 22:06 | jcamins | Michael: sorry, I thought you asked about collection code. |
| 22:07 | Michael | no worries...i think i'm just about there now. |
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| 22:09 | mib_mike | I've set QueryAutoTruncate to "only if '*' is added" But when I search 'Title' for "chest" my first two results have "chester" in the title, while my third has "chest" any ideas? |
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| 22:11 | mib_mike | The search is described as “ti,wrdl: chest ” I assume 'ti' means title but what does 'wrdl' mean? |
| 22:11 | chris | wordlist |
| 22:11 | Michael | Success! Thanks people. |
| 22:11 | chris | mib_mike: turn of stemming |
| 22:11 | turn off | |
| 22:11 | even | |
| 22:11 | and give it another go | |
| 22:11 | er, ies, ing, es etc are all removed when doing stemming | |
| 22:11 | sekjal | http://www.techrepublic.com/bl[…]-open-source/2141 |
| 22:11 | chris | hence chester |
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| 22:13 | rhcl | ping wizzyrea - still on? |
| 22:14 | mib_mike | Setting QueryStemming to "Don't Try" has had no effect on the first three results from my “ti,wrdl: chest ” search. |
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| 22:15 | chris | you have queryweightfields enabled? |
| 22:15 | mib_mike | yes queryweightfields are enabled. |
| 22:16 | rhcl | didn't I remember seeing something on channel about a new, current deb pkg being uploaded to http://debian.koha-community.org/koha ? |
| 22:16 | chris | 3.2.2 was put up jan 9 |
| 22:16 | 3.2.3 will go up next week | |
| 22:18 | rhcl | ah ha, your're right. If you don't expand the koha directory it shows the old October 2010 date. |
| 22:18 | for last modified | |
| 22:19 | chris | yeah you shouldnt really be browsing manually, but using apt-get to do it for ya ;-) |
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| 22:23 | mib_mike | Hmm.. “ti,phr: chest” (trailing space added by koha) does not return titles with "chester". |
| 22:24 | though “ti,wrdl: chest ” still does | |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | sup rhcl |
| 22:31 | rhcl | hey, just had the question about the .deb pkgs, which chris answered |
| 22:42 | * chris_n | pushes the first 4 commits toward 3.2.4 |
| 22:44 | hudsonbot | Starting build 91 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 22:45 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 5654: remove disused directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c18466359470745c4> / Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]672f151079658d57f> / History updated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]h=9638c4423a6272e |
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| 22:56 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
| 22:56 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 22:57 | chris_n | g'night jcamins_a |
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| 23:10 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #91: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/91/ |
| 23:10 | * Jerome Charaoui: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs | |
| 23:10 | * Chris Cormack: History updated | |
| 23:10 | * Chris Cormack: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now | |
| 23:10 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5654: remove disused directory | |
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