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| 01:38 | wasabi | wow!, Koha independents in slot 3 and ByWater in slot 4 |
| 01:38 | it indicates that independant Koha projects are going well… | |
| 01:39 | * wasabi | pats #koha on the shoulder |
| 01:39 | wasabi | "good on ya, mate" |
| 01:40 | gmcharlt | wasabi: just a pat on the shoulder? a bear hug might be more like it :) |
| 01:40 | druthb | :) |
| 01:41 | wasabi | a beer hug and a beer |
| 01:42 | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bier | |
| 01:43 | both delicious! but one type much nicer to quaff | |
| 01:46 | gmcharlt: you should prolly grab kohacatalog.org/net before someone else beats you to it... | |
| 01:46 | and a great idea too :) | |
| 01:48 | gmcharlt | wasabi: thanks for the thought, but kohacatalog.com is enough for us; if a bonafide .net or .org wants kohacatalog.org/.net (for Koha purposes, of course), they're welcome to it |
| 01:48 | wasabi | would be a nice way to track koha installs, and people get a 'vanity' koha domain address, from kohacatalog.com , etc |
| 01:49 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 01:49 | chris is entirely welcome to rm34.kohacatalog.com if he wants it :) | |
| 01:49 | chris | heh |
| 01:50 | wasabi | or 'koha.org' etc - if other vendors felt as clueful as ESI does… |
| 01:56 | ha, that didnt actually come out quite right | |
| 02:01 | … thats *after* the community gets koha.org back (of course) | |
| 02:03 | for now - we good have calyx.kc.org redirecting to calyx.net.au, etc | |
| 02:05 | to give a $vendor some kc.org authenticity, etc - just a thought.... | |
| 02:05 | oops s/good/could/ | |
| 02:22 | gmcharlt | eh |
| 02:22 | if we hand out vanity k-c.org domains, I'd rather that libraries get them | |
| 02:22 | vendors are more than capable of doing their own advertising, after all | |
| 02:32 | Nate | goodnight #koha! |
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| 02:48 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03ian.walls 07new/bug_5376 * rv3.02.00-597-g12c1162 10/tools/batchMod.pl: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions |
| 02:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5376 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Batch Edit and Delete need Superlibrarian Permissions |
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| 03:22 | wasabi | gmcharlt++ yeah, your idea is better |
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| 03:27 | Amit | heya all |
| 03:27 | hi kmkale | |
| 03:28 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5659778012bcaf862> |
| 03:29 | hudsonbot | Starting build 324 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:31 | kmkale | hi Amit |
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| 03:56 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #324: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/324/ |
| 03:56 | Ian Walls: Bug 5376: Batch Mod and Delete require superlibrarian permissions | |
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| 04:08 | havergara | hello |
| 04:09 | anybody? | |
| 04:09 | ibot | anybody is, like, here |
| 04:09 | havergara | hehe |
| 04:09 | i would like to ask a few questions | |
| 04:09 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "t/BackgroundJob.t gives make test errors" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/127 |
| 04:10 | havergara | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... |
| 04:10 | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... | |
| 04:10 | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... | |
| 04:10 | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... | |
| 04:10 | kmkale | Can someone have a look at ^ ^ and guide me about whats causing these make test errors in t/BackgroundJob.t ?? |
| 04:10 | bbl | |
| 04:10 | kmkale is now known as kmkale_a | |
| 04:18 | havergara | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... |
| 04:28 | i want to ask if how do i create my own marc21 framework... | |
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| 04:34 | wasabi | havergara: http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl › http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]min/admin-home.pl › http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]blio_framework.pl |
| 04:34 | click 'add new framework' ;) | |
| 04:37 | havergara | uhm sir wasabi, but how about if say for example,i want a certain tag appear in the catalogin page |
| 04:38 | my case is,in creating my own framework i see a lot of tags...but if i go on the cataloging page, i see only a few | |
| 04:38 | so what i want now is that, i would like to specify a certain tag to appear... | |
| 04:39 | wasabi | pass, that is a complex area |
| 04:39 | havergara | say for example, in my cataloging page, i dont see 090 tag,but in my MARC framework i see 099,how do i show that in cataloging page |
| 04:39 | wasabi | experiment with the default framework |
| 04:39 | havergara | :( |
| 04:40 | i already did...no chance... | |
| 04:40 | wasabi | the opac catalog is generated with xslt |
| 04:42 | havergara | which means? |
| 04:43 | wasabi | you need to add an 099 block in your opac/*.xsl files |
| 04:43 | havergara | really? |
| 04:44 | wasabi | 090 is defined ok, 099 is not |
| 04:44 | havergara | uhm, where is this .xsl located? |
| 04:44 | hope this will do my problem | |
| 04:45 | wasabi | masonxen1:~/g/head/koha-tmpl$ find . -iname *xslt* |
| 04:45 | ./opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt | |
| 04:45 | ./intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt | |
| 04:46 | havergara | i need to edit i think the file from intranet... |
| 04:46 | will try this...ill feed back asap if it works | |
| 04:46 | tnx | |
| 04:46 | wasabi | see the '090' definition here…. |
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| 04:47 | wasabi | http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=ko[…]54a9a;hb=HEAD#l21 |
| 04:47 | you need a similar defintion for your '099' | |
| 04:47 | <xsl:variable name="biblionumber" select="marc:datafield[@tag=090]/marc:subfield[@code='a']"/> | |
| 04:48 | something like that... | |
| 04:48 | havergara | can i just copy and paste then edit a tag there? |
| 04:51 | wasabi | pass, worth a try ;p |
| 04:51 | havergara | no?:( |
| 04:51 | tnx though...:) | |
| 04:53 | wasabi | yeah, just paste a 099 line under the 090 in your UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl file |
| 04:53 | should work ok | |
| 04:53 | havergara | let me try..:D |
| 04:54 | btw...which xsl file should i modify? | |
| 04:54 | wasabi | if you have a unimarc koha, and have 'opacxslt' sysprefs ON, etc |
| 04:54 | ok, i gotta scoot havergara, ciao and good luck | |
| 04:54 | havergara | whats the diff between unimarc and marc? |
| 04:55 | wasabi | UNIMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl |
| 04:55 | havergara | aw..ok,tnx! |
| 04:55 | :D | |
| 04:55 | wasabi | for the detail.pl page |
| 04:55 | unimarc is EU, marc21/usmarc is for USA | |
| 05:00 | havergara: for the *opac* detail.pl page :) | |
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| 06:08 | snail | evening all. where is the best place to propose new features? |
| 06:11 | havergara | what are the values in hiding a subfield? |
| 06:11 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:11 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:11 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:11 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:11 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:12 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:13 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:14 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 06:34 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
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| 06:54 | havergara | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? |
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| 07:37 | havergara | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? |
| 07:38 | paul_away is now known as paul | |
| 07:38 | paul | good morning #koha |
| 07:43 | havergara | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? |
| 07:43 | what are the values in hiding a subfield? i see there are numerical values like,in my observation, -1 to show...and 5 to hide...but there are also values like 0 and -6,what are the meaning of this values? | |
| 07:45 | snail | morning paul |
| 07:46 | paul | havergara, look at the online help [?] top right of the screen |
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| 08:08 | jransom | evening all |
| 08:13 | Ropuch | Good morning #koha |
| 08:15 | chris | Wow |
| 08:15 | My scrollback is full of the same question again and again | |
| 08:16 | My 4 year tries that approach, doesn't work for him either | |
| 08:18 | jransom | oh they eventually learn that no means no so long as no always means no. |
| 08:21 | snail | chris: is the correct thing to do following our discussion this afternoon to create a new bug in the bug tracker describing feature, the usage scenario and planned implementation? |
| 08:21 | chris | Exactly |
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| 08:31 | Ropuch | Hello chris |
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| 08:44 | kmkale | chris can you please give a hint on http://paste.koha-community.org/127 |
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| 08:48 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:48 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 08:51 | kf | hi kmkale |
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| 08:54 | kf | guten morgen ivanc :) |
| 08:55 | ivanc | guten morgen kf :) |
| 08:55 | hi #koha | |
| 08:59 | jransom | hiya Caitlin |
| 09:00 | kf | hi jo |
| 09:00 | :) | |
| 09:08 | jransom | :) |
| 09:18 | paul | good weekend kiwis ! jransom & chris & anyone else from NZ ! |
| 09:21 | jransom | hiya Paul |
| 09:21 | http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/2011/01/20/firehero/ - this freakin awesome | |
| 09:21 | (a bit of friday night frivolity) | |
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| 09:26 | kf | hi paul |
| 09:26 | paul is now known as paul_p | |
| 09:26 | paul_p | hello kf |
| 09:33 | jransom | good night all |
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| 09:49 | snail | looking for feedback on: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5666 |
| 09:49 | munin | 04Bug 5666: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, regexp edits to URL fields in bibliographic edit screens |
| 10:10 | kf | snail: It sounds interesting - but I am the wrong person to talk about technical implementation :) |
| 10:11 | snail | kf: thanks |
| 10:13 | paul_p | chris, mail in your mailbox (in case you're not sleeping) |
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| 10:56 | cirbic | hi friends |
| 10:56 | greetings from Almeria (Spain) | |
| 10:57 | hello wasabi | |
| 10:57 | nice to see you again | |
| 10:58 | paul_p | hi from Marseille (France), cirbic |
| 10:58 | kf | hi from Konstanz (Germany) :) |
| 10:59 | cirbic | hey kf! |
| 10:59 | nice to see you too | |
| 10:59 | kf | lunch break- will be back a bit later |
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| 11:00 | cirbic | here where I work there are a lot of german people |
| 11:00 | the belongs to DLR | |
| 11:00 | they belong to DLR | |
| 11:01 | wasabi, I come back again with a framework issue | |
| 11:01 | Amit | heya cirbic |
| 11:01 | cirbic | hello amit |
| 11:01 | yesterday we reinstalled again koha, and everything ok | |
| 11:02 | now I´m more cautious :D | |
| 11:02 | I created a new framework based on FASTT ADD framework | |
| 11:02 | everything ok | |
| 11:03 | but now probably I´ll need other tags so I modified the MARC structure and added these tags | |
| 11:03 | but when I go to catalogue a new marc record and choose my owb framework, the new tags don´t appear | |
| 11:05 | once I added the new tags to the framework | |
| 11:05 | do I have to do anything else ?? | |
| 11:12 | here is where I work: http://www.psa.es | |
| 11:26 | kf | cirbic: did you add fields and subfields using administration > bibliographic MARC frameworks? |
| 11:26 | what is your value for the hidden field? | |
| 11:26 | cirbic | where is that value? |
| 11:27 | kf | if you look at the subfield definition it's under more optiosn |
| 11:30 | cirbic | I´ve just created a new Framework |
| 11:30 | using Fast Add | |
| 11:30 | all ok | |
| 11:31 | I´d like to add tag 520 SUMMARY | |
| 11:32 | so I´ve to click in NEW TAG | |
| 11:32 | I write 520 in TAG, in labels I write SUMMARY | |
| 11:33 | It´s not repeatable and not mandatory | |
| 11:33 | and save changes | |
| 11:33 | now appears in the structure of the framework | |
| 11:34 | but if I go to insert new record, the tag 520 doesn´t appear | |
| 11:42 | hidden field is 0 | |
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| 11:54 | druthb | good day, #koha |
| 12:04 | Nate | morning druthb! |
| 12:05 | druthb | hi, Nate. :) you're in early this morning! |
| 12:07 | kf | bywater++ |
| 12:08 | @karma bywater | |
| 12:08 | munin | kf: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
| 12:08 | druthb | thanks, kf! :) |
| 12:08 | kf | and good morning :) |
| 12:09 | Nate | thank you kf! |
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| 12:13 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 12:13 | druthb | hi, Brooke! :) |
| 12:13 | kmkale | hi Brooke |
| 12:13 | hi druthb | |
| 12:13 | * druthb | waves to kmkale |
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| 12:16 | * Brooke | waves to nengard |
| 12:16 | nengard | hiya |
| 12:17 | Amit | heya nengard |
| 12:17 | heya Brooke | |
| 12:17 | nengard | morning |
| 12:17 | * Brooke | passes out mimosas to get everyone started out properly. |
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| 12:28 | * kf | waves |
| 12:28 | * Brooke | waves back |
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| 12:32 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 12:33 | kf | hi jcamins |
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| 12:36 | Brooke | morning |
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| 12:41 | jwagner | morning, all |
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| 13:01 | kf | morning jwagner |
| 13:01 | jwagner | Hi kf |
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| 13:26 | Brooke | @quote random |
| 13:26 | munin | Brooke: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010) |
| 13:28 | paul_p | 'morning USA Brooke & jwagner & jcamins & others |
| 13:28 | druthb | @quote get 102 |
| 13:28 | munin | druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
| 13:28 | paul_p | oups, good morning argentina too |
| 13:28 | Brooke | :) |
| 13:29 | paul_p | @quote random |
| 13:29 | munin | paul_p: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) |
| 13:29 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 13:29 | kmkale | chris_n around? |
| 13:29 | chris_n | om, phone |
| 13:30 | kmkale | k |
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| 13:31 | chris_n | hey kmkale |
| 13:31 | kmkale | hi chris_n |
| 13:31 | Brooke | hey sekjal |
| 13:32 | sekjal | hi, Brooke! |
| 13:32 | kmkale | just got your reply to "make test fails on BackgroundJob.t" |
| 13:32 | why is it in the master in t dir then? | |
| 13:33 | chris_n | probably just got overlooked in the mass test building which was occurring during the os academy last week |
| 13:34 | feel free to submit a patch to move it :) | |
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| 13:34 | kmkale | also in a fresh dev install I see a bunch of DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'kohadev.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/kk/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 480 |
| 13:34 | for many other tests | |
| 13:35 | * chris_n | looks |
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| 13:40 | gmcharlt | FYI - because of spam problems, I've set the Koha wiki to require a confirmed email address before you can edit pages |
| 13:40 | chris_n | kmkale: still looking |
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| 13:41 | gmcharlt | this change does affect users who already have accounts, so you'll need to confirm your email address |
| 13:41 | chris_n | spam-- |
| 13:41 | * Brooke | keeps telling gmcharlt she's not *really* spam, she's just got a highly unfavourable signal to noise ratio. |
| 13:41 | gmcharlt | by going to your user profile on the wiki, scrolling down until you see the confirm email address link |
| 13:41 | jcamins | gmcharlt++ # because the spam is annoying |
| 13:41 | gmcharlt | then have it send one |
| 13:41 | you'll then get an email with a link to confirm | |
| 13:42 | and then you can go back to improving the S/N ratio | |
| 13:42 | jcamins | If there's no such link, does that mean that the e-mail has already been confirmed? |
| 13:43 | jwagner | Looking at the code, the branch limiter in staff and OPAC advanced search seems to be searching the index named "branch" which seems to be homebranch (952$a). Can someone confirm that, and would you know any reason why it wouldn't find items that belong to a particular branch? |
| 13:43 | The item is searchable in other ways, such as title or item type. | |
| 13:44 | kf | jcamins: found it under my preferences |
| 13:44 | gmcharlt | jcamins: if it's already confirmed, the preferences page for your account will say somethign to the effect of "Your e-mail address was authenticated on 28 January 2011 at 13:42." |
| 13:44 | kmkale | chris_n i am pasting at paste.k-c |
| 13:44 | jcamins | Yeah, I have that. |
| 13:45 | Brooke | soooo |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | |
| 13:46 | ibot | well, gmcharlt is it safe to point the website to koha-latest.tar.gz, the symlink will get updated as new versions come out? |
| 13:46 | Brooke | if you can mess about like that |
| 13:46 | do you have the powah to import the damn infobox template thinger? | |
| 13:46 | jcamins | ibot: forget gmcharlt |
| 13:46 | ibot | jcamins: I forgot gmcharlt |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | jcamins: heh - that sounds more aggresive than it actually is |
| 13:47 | jcamins | ibot: gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 13:47 | ibot | OK, jcamins. |
| 13:47 | Brooke | specifically infobox person |
| 13:47 | jcamins | ibot: jcamins? |
| 13:47 | ibot | i think jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
| 13:47 | jcamins | :) |
| 13:47 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "make test errors" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/129 |
| 13:47 | * owen | hands jcamins a bucket of spare sysprefs |
| 13:48 | kf | druthb? |
| 13:48 | ibot | i heard druthb was the prettiest little lady north of the Potomac. |
| 13:48 | Brooke | ha! |
| 13:48 | that stuck :D | |
| 13:48 | kf | :) |
| 13:49 | kmkale | chris_n : http://paste.koha-community.org/129 |
| 13:50 | * druthb | pokes Brooke. |
| 13:50 | chris_n | kmkale: looks ugly; afaik we should not be requiring any db population in the basic test suite |
| 13:51 | kmkale | agree |
| 13:51 | also a bunch of "Use of uninitialized value..." & "Illegal date specified..." too | |
| 13:52 | chris_n | the Illegal date specified is expected |
| 13:52 | use of uninitialized value is annoying, but harmless | |
| 13:52 | kmkale | the make test wont pass till I edited t/BackgroundJob.t by changing the test number to 1 |
| 13:53 | chris_n | kmkale: you are safe to go ahead with your install, however |
| 13:53 | kmkale | i know. already did |
| 13:53 | chris_n | you can then do 'prove' after the db is populated to reverify |
| 13:53 | kmkale | just wanted to bring it to attention |
| 13:54 | chris_n | good idea, tnx |
| 13:56 | kmkale: I'll do some testing and generate some discussion a bit later today | |
| 13:56 | kmkale | thanks chris_n |
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| 13:58 | * Brooke | waves to Oak |
| 13:59 | * Oak | hugs Brooke |
| 13:59 | Oak | \o |
| 14:00 | druthb | o/ |
| 14:00 | Oak | http://abstrusegoose.com/336 |
| 14:11 | druthb | Nate++ #Ah has mah reasons. |
| 14:13 | owen | What the heck is a MediaWiki "bureaucrat?" |
| 14:13 | Brooke | it's in the wiki ;) |
| 14:14 | * owen | expects correspondence from all such users to be supplied in triplicate |
| 14:14 | Brooke | I suspect that it's in the kerfuffle regarding how an unseen hand guides wikipedia, but I don't put any stock into that sort of nonsense. |
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| 14:22 | kf | starting weekend - bye all :) |
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| 14:34 | kmkale | bye all. Good night |
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| 14:48 | * wizzyrea_ | is still waiting on her envisionware executable |
| 14:49 | gets out her stick. | |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea_ is now known as wizzyrea | |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | hides |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Time to go learn about Russian pan-Eurasianism. |
| 14:51 | I'll be around this afternoon if anyone has any pressing questions about analytics. :) | |
| 14:52 | TTFN, #koha | |
| 14:52 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: if you use openid to log into the wiki, do we still need to make changes? |
| 14:58 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I suspect so, yes |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | k, ty |
| 14:59 | (and yes, I just found that to be true) | |
| 15:13 | paul_p | 1st spam removed on the wiki. throw the champaign :D |
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| 15:22 | gmcharlt | @later tell Brooke got the infobox template working, now I just need to find the CSS to get it look good |
| 15:22 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:25 | gmcharlt | @later tell Brooke ok, Infobox_person is now all set up |
| 15:25 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:58 | owen | sekjal++ # for Bug 3881 |
| 16:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3881 blocker, P5, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED, No Page for Opac Privacy |
| 16:59 | sekjal | Writing the detailed commit message right now |
| 17:04 | nengard | :) |
| 17:04 | awesomeness | |
| 17:07 | jwagner | what's the table (log) where cataloging actions get recorded? I'm not seeing it. I could be blind, of course.... |
| 17:07 | wasabi | action_logs |
| 17:08 | jwagner | Thanks, looked there but didn't see what I wanted. Guess what I want isn't there... |
| 17:08 | wasabi | ah, np :) |
| 17:09 | * jwagner | thinks Koha should read my mind |
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| 17:12 | * chris_n | will put that module on the list next to the clone and time-expansion modules |
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| 17:29 | owen | As if we needed another reason to be grateful we're not on Sourceforge anymore: http://sourceforge.net/apps/wo[…]et-attack-update/ |
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| 17:32 | snail | Mōrena |
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| 18:09 | chris_n | anybody familiar with this: http://synergy-foss.org/ |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | I think I tried this a couple of years ago |
| 18:11 | it did not work so well then, but it may work well now | |
| 18:12 | owen | Sounds interesting |
| 18:15 | sekjal | hmmm.... that could be handy |
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| 18:15 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 19:27 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Translation updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2eb8719b776768b1f> |
| 19:27 | snail | getting a fresh clone of koha from git onto ubuntu, I did a dev install, but there seem to be many perl libraries I don't have installed. is there a complete list of them somewhere in an easy-to-install form? |
| 19:27 | larsw | chris_n, I used synergy quite a lot while I still lived in Finland and had both a desktop and a laptop |
| 19:28 | chris_n, there were occasional minor hickups (e.g., copy-paste across machines sometimes works, sometimes not), but mostly it was fine, and much nicer than a hardware kvm | |
| 19:29 | owen | snail: Are you following the Ubuntu INSTALL file? |
| 19:29 | snail | owen: thanks. i'd not seen that... |
| 19:29 | hudsonbot | Starting build 92 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:30 | wasabi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]TALL.ubuntu.lucid |
| 19:30 | line 69-ish.... | |
| 19:46 | snail | owen: thanks. install going much better now I'm reading the instructions |
| 19:48 | owen | Cool. |
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| 19:56 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #92: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/92/ |
| 19:56 | Fr?d?ric Demians: Translation updates | |
| 19:58 | chris_n | hudson is not utf-8 savvy |
| 19:58 | !hudson botsnack sugar-cookie | |
| 19:58 | hudsonbot | chris_n: yummy! how did you know that sugar-cookie is my favorite food? |
| 19:59 | snail | !hudson botsnack utf8-understanding |
| 19:59 | hudsonbot | snail: yummy! I just love utf8-understanding! |
| 20:11 | chris_n | hudson? |
| 20:11 | ibot | well, hudson is Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/ |
| 20:16 | cait | ibot botsnack fasnetsküchle |
| 20:16 | ibot | :) |
| 20:17 | * druthb | wants a fasnetsküchle, too! |
| 20:18 | * jcamins | offers druthb and cait some chocolate goo |
| 20:18 | cait | goo? |
| 20:18 | thx :) | |
| 20:18 | druthb | take it. jcamins is *brilliant*. :) |
| 20:18 | * jcamins | 's oven is broken... after forty-five minutes, the brownies weren't really baked, just safe to eat. |
| 20:18 | cait | oh |
| 20:18 | jcamins | At least, I think it's the oven. |
| 20:18 | That's my only explanation. | |
| 20:18 | cait | have you moved already? |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 20:19 | Friday. | |
| 20:19 | That is, a week ago. | |
| 20:19 | druthb | fasnetsküchle looks a little like a beignet...a little square of dough, fried? |
| 20:20 | cait | they can look different, but basically yes |
| 20:20 | I think most are with yeast dogh, fried and sugar on top | |
| 20:21 | druthb | yup. very definitely like a beignet, then. |
| 20:21 | cait | found an empty package in our tea kitchen today - was too late! |
| 20:22 | * jcamins | wants to bake something successful. |
| 20:23 | cait | new oven? |
| 20:23 | jcamins | I don't think I'll be able to until I have an oven thermometer, though. |
| 20:23 | * druthb | suggests those amazing cookies that you brought to California. I will taste-test. :D |
| 20:23 | jcamins | First I have to confirm the oven is not working. |
| 20:23 | Then I will have to call the owner. | |
| 20:23 | Then I will have to call the super. | |
| 20:23 | Then I will probably have to call the repair company. | |
| 20:23 | Then I will have to wait and wait and wait while they fail to show up. | |
| 20:24 | Okay, silly question: | |
| 20:24 | * owen | has 3 oven thermometers for some reason, never uses any of them. |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Create manual invoice vs. Create manual credit... you use the latter if you want to forgive a fine, correct? |
| 20:26 | owen | The disadvantage to that is the operation isn't tied directly to the item |
| 20:27 | jcamins | What's the "Barcode" input for, then |
| 20:27 | *? | |
| 20:27 | cait | hm, I think using the waive from the pull down is probably safer |
| 20:28 | jcamins | You mean under "Pay fines"? |
| 20:28 | owen | I don't see a waive option under Pay fines |
| 20:28 | jcamins | I've never used fines at all. |
| 20:28 | I see "Writeoff." | |
| 20:28 | I think that should be two words, shouldn't it? | |
| 20:29 | cait | yep that one |
| 20:29 | owen | Wikipedia says "write-off" |
| 20:29 | cait | sorry, confused terms |
| 20:29 | jcamins | owen: but that's a noun. |
| 20:29 | owen | True |
| 20:30 | cait: I think we may need a "waive" option | |
| 20:30 | cait | what's the difference between write-off and waive? |
| 20:30 | jcamins | I would think one would be needed. |
| 20:30 | cait | and this hole module is ... |
| 20:30 | lots of translation problems :( | |
| 20:30 | whole | |
| 20:31 | jcamins | If you write something off, you remove it from your accounts receivable, but the money is still owed to you. |
| 20:31 | cait | so if you are going to work on something there... I would appreaciate if someone stopped saving english terms to the database |
| 20:31 | owen | Honestly I don't know how the writeoff options is used. |
| 20:31 | jcamins | If you waive the fee, you're not owed any money. |
| 20:31 | Neither do I, but that's the semantic difference between the two. | |
| 20:31 | cait | hm |
| 20:31 | perhaps interesting for reporting | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | cait: how will you know how to translate it if the module doesn't use Pootle? |
| 20:32 | cait | if you forgive a fine because it was a mistake or delete the fine because you delete the patron and never expect it to be paid |
| 20:32 | ? | |
| 20:32 | owen | I notice you can't reverse a writeoff |
| 20:32 | cait | sorry, jcamins |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Two words. |
| 20:32 | cait | i don't understand your question |
| 20:32 | theproblem is the accountine table | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | cait: you said the English shouldn't go into the database, and I'm asking how else you can translate it. |
| 20:33 | cait | it has fine and string in there that get displayed in opac and staff |
| 20:33 | use the types | |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Oh, in the *Koha* database? |
| 20:33 | cait | yep |
| 20:33 | jcamins | That's _awful_. |
| 20:33 | I thought you meant in the translation database. | |
| 20:33 | cait | and you can't do anything about it because it's hardcoded |
| 20:33 | no | |
| 20:33 | like fine when you have an overdue | |
| 20:33 | it comes from the database and is added automatically, you can't avoid it | |
| 20:33 | jcamins | I was thinking "if the English isn't in the translation database, how will you know what to put in for the German?" ;) |
| 20:36 | owen | anyone know what "account type", "notify id" and "level" are under "Pay fines" ? |
| 20:36 | * owen | only uses fines when testing fines |
| 20:36 | cait | they are not used any longer |
| 20:36 | at least for notify id and level i am sure | |
| 20:36 | leftovers from a former fines system | |
| 20:36 | you can see those columns in the overdue reports too | |
| 20:37 | there are also subroutines left for that - it looks like it would be more like what we need - but it's not working | |
| 20:37 | I was thinking about removing them when I have some time | |
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| 20:40 | owen | jcamins: Notably, the create manual credit page offers "forgiven" as one of the options. That certainly suggests it's the correct usage. |
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| 21:27 | cait | good night all |
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| 21:27 | * owen | too |
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| 21:28 | Nate | have a great weekend #koha! |
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| 21:42 | snail | on ubuntu I'm getting version conflicts with libgd (the graphics library). is that used for anything but barcodes? can i safely ignore it? |
| 21:42 | jcamins | snail: it's used for patron images, but you can ignore it. |
| 21:43 | snail | jcamins: cool, thanks |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | libgd? |
| 21:44 | GD? | |
| 21:44 | graphicsmagick? | |
| 21:44 | ibot | i think graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11. |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | there we go |
| 21:49 | jcamins | Cool! ssh -X works on a Mac. |
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| 21:53 | snail | does anyone know of anyone in the koha community looking at SWORD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWORD_%28Protocol%29 |
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| 23:29 | pianohack | konnichiwa |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Greetings. |
| 23:30 | pianohack | Hi jcamins, how's your friday going? |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Not bad. |
| 23:30 | Wrestling with the manual searching issue. | |
| 23:33 | And wondering why I can't just use a RewriteRule to make the URLs something like .../3-4-manual-en/patrons.html |
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