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00:06 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
00:06 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -8.1�C (6:08 PM CST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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01:31 | hudsonbot | Starting build 43 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) |
01:46 | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #43: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/43/ | |
01:46 | Nicole C. Engard: add kit icon to XSLT appendix | |
01:46 | Starting build 44 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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02:00 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #44: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/44/ |
02:00 | Nicole C. Engard: break my account into sections | |
02:01 | Starting build 45 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
02:14 | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #45: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/45/ | |
02:14 | * Nicole C. Engard: add section to opac chapter for purchase suggestions | |
02:14 | * Nicole C. Engard: add note about OPAC_SUG value to purchase suggestions | |
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02:44 | Brooke | kiiia ora |
02:45 | chris | hiya Brooke |
02:45 | Brooke | :) |
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05:11 | wasabi | lol, this is gold... |
05:11 | '[Koha] Tech consultants worried about the security of a windows server network if linux server with Koha is introduced. . .' | |
05:12 | will installing a openbsd system introduce any security risks to my win95 network? | |
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05:18 | Amit | heya all |
05:19 | wasabi | \o amit |
05:19 | Amit | heya mason |
05:21 | wasabi | haay, kohacon11 in india++ :) |
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06:03 | chris | wasabi: yeah that was fud i ever saw it |
06:03 | if i even | |
06:03 | hi Amit | |
06:03 | Amit | heya chris |
06:04 | kohacon11 in india++ ;) | |
06:07 | wasabi | troll-1: dl-0 |
06:10 | Amit | wasabi: so r u coming to india if kohacon11 in india? |
06:10 | wasabi | yes :) |
06:14 | chris | dl ? |
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06:20 | chris | excuse? |
06:20 | ibot | chris: system consumed all the paper for paging |
06:20 | chris | hi kmkale |
06:20 | its down to 3 now :) | |
06:22 | Amit | hi kmkale |
06:23 | kmkale | hi Amit |
06:24 | hi chris | |
06:24 | * wasabi | waves at kmkale |
06:24 | kmkale | chris I wanted to ask if conference hosting should be an item on the agenda for the irc meeting on 2nd Feb |
06:24 | hi wasabi | |
06:25 | chris | yeah, pop it on |
06:25 | Amit | kmkale: I think this is better |
06:25 | kmkale | ok |
06:25 | Amit | kmkale: we will support to u. |
06:25 | for kohacon11 in india | |
06:25 | kmkale | Thanks Amit. I had a email from Savitra too |
06:26 | been getting emails from a lot of librarian from all over India. Everyone is exited :) | |
06:26 | Amit | yes i replied now i m in favour kohacon11 in mumbai |
06:27 | this is better to meet all the koha developer and people | |
06:27 | chris | kmkale: irc meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion |
06:28 | kmkale | chris doing that right now |
06:29 | hudsonbot | Starting build 319 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
06:29 | chris | hmm i wonder what my point of view was :) |
06:30 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ccca64ed467fe4da> |
06:32 | kmkale | done http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ruary_2011#Agenda |
06:32 | chris | cool |
06:33 | ill send out a reminder email about the meeting | |
06:41 | done | |
06:54 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #319: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/319/ |
06:54 | Ian Walls: Bug 5619: Subfield 9 missing from most authorised heading fields | |
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07:03 | chris | hi BobB |
07:03 | BobB | Hi Chris |
07:04 | I'm in Brisbane for Linux Conf. Very hot and humid but at least we are above the water line. | |
07:04 | chris | yeah, sounds like they did a good job finding an alternative venue on short notice |
07:06 | BobB | The organisers have done an amazing job. They re-planned the conference in 10 days. Very impressive. |
07:06 | Chris, I want to follow up on a problem that Seth Mayo raised on list this afternoon. Very puzzling. | |
07:07 | chris | yeah, the first thing id do is check the items table |
07:07 | make sure the items exist there | |
07:07 | and have barcodes | |
07:07 | because circulation doesnt care about marc | |
07:07 | BobB | Unfortunately I don't have access to his system, but I am certain the barcodes are in 952$p. |
07:08 | Are you saying that Search will use Marc but circulation doesn't? He can search on barcodes and find his items. | |
07:08 | chris | yeah that uses the MARC |
07:08 | circulation uses the items table | |
07:09 | so thats what you need to check | |
07:09 | BobB | OK, so if there's a problem at Items level the record will be found by Search but won't be recognised at Circulation? |
07:09 | chris | potentially yes |
07:10 | BobB | That's what he is seeing. |
07:10 | I cannot think of any other reason. | |
07:11 | chris | yeah |
07:11 | wasabi | heya BobB |
07:11 | BobB | I'll get him to make the inquiry you suggested and also check that items.barcode is mapped to 952$p. Anything else? |
07:12 | Hi Mason! | |
07:12 | wasabi | potentially goofy padding before/after the barcode too |
07:13 | /cgi-bin/koha/admin/koha2marclinks.pl is the place to check 1st | |
07:13 | BobB | Which the SQL query should also reveal? |
07:13 | chris | checking the items actually exist and whats in the barcode table is the first thing |
07:13 | if there are either no items, or the items have no barcodes | |
07:14 | then the next thing to check is the linkage | |
07:14 | wasabi | select * from items where barcode = '99999' etc... |
07:14 | chris | naw, |
07:14 | just select barcode from items limit 10; | |
07:14 | is all you need to do first | |
07:15 | just to see what is in the barcodes column | |
07:15 | then depending on what you find, you have a bunch of things to check next | |
07:15 | wasabi | well, id go looking at specific problem bib/item, myself.. |
07:15 | chris | they are all problems |
07:16 | wasabi | sure, so choose one of them, for starters :) |
07:17 | chris | i think thats the long way, you cant rule anything out with only one |
07:17 | first thing you want to check is do the items exist | |
07:17 | wasabi | but yeah, it will be the marc-items table linking stuff thats the prob |
07:17 | chris | next, do they have barcodes |
07:18 | wasabi | just compare them to a working sane koha, to detect where its busted |
07:18 | BobB | OK, there's enough for starters. I'll buzz off and ring Seth. Prolly having dinner! |
07:18 | Thanks heaps you guys. | |
07:19 | wasabi | if you imported the bibs using bulkmarcimport.pl you may have a problem |
07:20 | im not sure that bulkmarcimport.pl creates the item records | |
07:21 | so in that situ, zebra searching works, coz its indexed the item records fine... | |
07:22 | but no actual item rows exist in the items table, for circ to work | |
07:22 | which is basically what chris.c just said :) | |
07:24 | BobB | But bulkmarcimport.pl does create item records, if a 952 field is present? |
07:24 | wasabi | i cant remember, offhand - its been a while since i last used it |
07:24 | but im pretty sure it does | |
07:26 | most of the bibs i've imported using the tool, didnt have item/952 info | |
07:26 | BobB | We'll have to wait for Seth to tell us whether items are present. He isn't about at present. I've left a message. |
07:28 | wasabi | anyone else know about bulkimport.pl importing item-level info correctly ? |
07:31 | chris | yeah it works fine |
07:32 | wasabi | cool, i shut up then... |
07:34 | BobB | Gotta go. Will let you know the outcome when I hear back from Seth. |
07:34 | Thanks again. | |
07:34 | chris | cool |
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07:47 | kmkale | brb |
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08:20 | praba | hi |
08:20 | how to enable email notifications in koha 3.06 | |
08:21 | i'm getting mail for new registration but don't know how to enable it for overdue, issue, return notices | |
08:30 | chris | 3.0.6 you mean? |
08:31 | praba | 4ya exactly 3.0.6.. |
08:32 | chris | look in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example |
08:32 | for the cronjobs you need to set up | |
08:35 | paul_p | good morning #koha ! |
08:36 | (& good night kiwis ;-) ) | |
08:39 | chris | hi paul_p |
08:40 | praba | 4thanks chris.. i ll look into that |
08:41 | paul_p | hi chris. Quite cold in Marseille those days... deep winter is here. I hope your deep summer is fine ;-) |
08:41 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
08:42 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
08:42 | chris | quite a nice evening tonight |
08:42 | paul_p | @wunder marseille, france |
08:42 | munin | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 1.0�C (9:30 AM CET on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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08:45 | * chris | is upgrading bugzilla |
08:45 | chris | http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.2.9/ |
08:45 | in case it goes away, thats why | |
08:48 | done | |
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09:34 | kf | hi #koha |
09:48 | wasabi | http://tech.slashdot.org/story[…]-Over-Windows-Tax |
09:48 | 'Most users do not realise that starting the software means you have accepted the end user licence."' | |
09:49 | lol, is that really true!?! | |
09:49 | if you've opened your door, you've just bought some steak-knives... | |
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11:54 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.2.3 is now available; os academy is over and we ended with 50.1% subroutine test coverage, let's stay above that | |
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12:18 | wasabi | oooh, http://juice-project.org/ |
12:18 | looks nice... | |
12:19 | http://code.google.com/p/juice[…]/wiki/ScreenShots | |
12:21 | magnus | yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
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12:22 | magnus | at one time there was an incompatibility with the jquery version used by juice and the one shipped with koha, not sure how that works now |
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12:39 | jwagner | Morning, all |
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12:48 | chris_n | google-- |
12:49 | kmkale | hi chris_n |
12:49 | * chris_n | thinks this is *not* a good way to start the day |
12:49 | chris_n | hi kmkale |
12:49 | google's latest "new" feature set breaks their oid stuff for edu hosted email | |
12:50 | kmkale | ouch |
12:50 | magnus | wow, looks like biblibre has lot's of cool stuff coming - i love the possibility to anonymize with cron! |
13:20 | kf | I see ppn mentioned a lot there - interesting for us :) |
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13:21 | magnus | kf (hi!): ppn? |
13:22 | kf | hi magnus .) |
13:22 | 001 controlnumber in pica catalogs (afaik) | |
13:22 | our union catalog uses that term too | |
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13:23 | magnus | a ha |
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13:51 | * magnus | wanders off to catch a train |
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13:52 | * druthb | hands kmkale a strip of Velcro, so he can fasten himself to the room. |
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14:05 | jwagner | paul_p, online? |
14:07 | kf | hi jwagner |
14:07 | jwagner | Guten tag, kf |
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14:38 | paul_p | hello jwagner, i'm here now ! |
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14:43 | wizzyrea | good morning |
14:44 | jwagner | paul_p, do you know specifics about Bug 3571? hdl isn't online or I'd ask him :-) |
14:44 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3571 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, AutoTruncation is not allowed alone |
14:44 | paul_p | (hdl is teaching git/patch/perl/ to one of our customers) |
14:45 | * jwagner | would like to take that class :-) |
14:46 | paul_p | jwagner, nope, I don't know anything specific about this bug. We always have Autotruncate=OFF now, because the patrons are in trouble when they don't expect a short word to be autotruncate ! |
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14:49 | jwagner | auto truncate is off, but we have a site reporting that wildcard (*) isn't working in advanced search. This was the nearest bugzilla entry I found, so I was hoping :-) |
14:49 | Correction, not the * but just truncation in general they're saying doesn't work in advanced search. | |
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14:51 | jwagner | I haven't dug into the problem deeply yet; searching bugzilla didn't come up with much. |
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15:01 | jwagner | Hmm. Has anyone done a git pull this morning & gotten an error in the web installer? My last one went fine, but I'm now getting "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957." |
15:02 | (current head) | |
15:02 | owen | Looks like that XXX slipped in by mistake |
15:02 | paul_p | mmm.... 3.0300XXX means it's an unfinished merge. If it's an uptodate fetch, then it means chris means something |
15:02 | ( 'morning owen ) | |
15:03 | jwagner | I'll try to remember to ping chris later then. |
15:03 | wizzyrea | you could @later him |
15:03 | that way you dont' have to try to remember | |
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15:09 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster * rv3.02.00-591-gfdaf3c6 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bumping database version |
15:09 | jwagner | wizzyrea, thanks -- brain isn't working too clearly today (nasty migraine is building, sigh) |
15:10 | @later tell chris I got an error on my latest git pull against current head, when I ran update database. It said "updatedatabase.pl: Argument "3.0300XXX" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /home/k32/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 3957." | |
15:10 | munin | jwagner: The operation succeeded. |
15:11 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb919f63b2a5ca72b> | |
15:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 320 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
15:15 | wizzyrea | sorry to hear about the headache |
15:16 | gmcharlt | would appear that chris got the message :) |
15:16 | jwagner | Doesn't he EVER sleep???? |
15:17 | paul_p | 'morning gmcharlt (just answered to your mail) |
15:17 | gmcharlt | paul_p: thanks |
15:17 | paul_p | jwagner, yes, he's sleeping. munin is just saying he has registered the request. But still not delivered the message. |
15:17 | kf | jwagner: does not seem so :) |
15:17 | paul_p | he will be delivered when someone with his nick says something |
15:19 | jwagner | Or else he's secretly perfected Clone.pm... |
15:21 | gmcharlt | paul_p: I was referring to the commit announcement |
15:21 | and the apparent, though scary, revelation that chris can do small bugfixes IN HIS SLEEP! | |
15:22 | paul_p | gmcharlt, right ! so either bots are more and more intelligent, or he works in his sleep |
15:22 | (or someone else has a git access and silently fixed the problem ;-) ) | |
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15:41 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #320: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/320/ |
15:41 | Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
15:42 | kf | owen: around? |
15:42 | owen | Yes |
15:43 | kf | can you give me a hint? I am trying to replace the content of an element with different text |
15:43 | (translation issue9 | |
15:43 | <td>Item DUE</td> - I have selected the element, but now I want to change it | |
15:45 | owen | $("td").text("New next"); |
15:45 | kf | text |
15:45 | I had html() | |
15:45 | thx | |
15:45 | owen++ | |
15:46 | owen | I'm surprised html() didn't work too |
15:48 | kf | perhaps because I messed up my selector at some point :( |
15:49 | owen | http://visualjquery.com : Manipulation -> Changing Contents |
15:51 | kf | thx |
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16:13 | hudsonbot | Starting build 1 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch |
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16:26 | jwagner | @later tell chris A later git pull seems to have resolved the updatedatabase error. |
16:26 | munin | jwagner: The operation succeeded. |
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16:27 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #1: SUCCESS in 16 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]s_3_2_x_Branch/1/ |
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16:39 | paul_p | time to go to catch my plane... going to Lille once again ! see you on thursday #koha ! |
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16:55 | wizzyrea | safe travels paul_p |
16:56 | paul_p | thx wizzyrea. Small trip (1H15) |
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17:25 | hudsonbot | Starting build 46 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:32 | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #46: FAILURE in 7 min 24 sec: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/46/ | |
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17:38 | cait | hi #koha |
17:45 | jwagner | hi cait |
17:46 | hudsonbot | Starting build 47 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #45 15 hr ago) |
17:49 | cait | jcamins: around? |
17:50 | chris | hi cait |
17:50 | cait | hi chris |
17:51 | chris: coworker almost solved my ubuntu problem - it's shift during boot to get into grub :) | |
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17:52 | wasabi | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 |
17:53 | 'Hold down SHIFT to display the hidden menu during boot (formerly ESC is GRUB legacy).' | |
17:53 | lol, it *was* escape | |
17:53 | cait | yeah, confusing |
17:53 | spend a lot of time googling too | |
17:54 | hoped jared was here to tell me what to do now :) | |
17:54 | wasabi | my ratings thingy running on 3.2.3 |
17:54 | cait | wasabi++ |
17:54 | cool :) | |
17:54 | wasabi | http://head.kohaaloha.com/cgi-[…]pac-search.pl?q=a |
17:55 | owen | Nice |
17:56 | wasabi | trying to get it ready for chris this week, before 3.4 cut-off |
17:57 | now to push up to github... | |
17:58 | rhcl | Hey, the ratings thing looks good |
17:58 | wasabi++ | |
17:59 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
17:59 | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #47: FIXED in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/47/ | |
18:04 | cait | ok, shift worked exactly one time... and now it stopped working |
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18:06 | cait | ignore me... found the problem |
18:07 | wasabi | oooh, pushed to github…. |
18:08 | https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]57a06e246e9739dd9 | |
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18:09 | Brooke | kia ora |
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18:09 | wizzyrea | hi brooke |
18:13 | sekjal | my tests for bug 5376 are showing it's no longer present in HEAD. can anyone confirm? |
18:13 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5376 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Batch Edit and Delete need Superlibrarian Permissions |
18:14 | chris | woot wasabi |
18:15 | Brooke | ibot: wasabi |
18:15 | ibot | well, wasabi is sleeping |
18:15 | * chris | will look sekjal |
18:16 | cait | whoohoo - repaired my ubuntu installation :) |
18:16 | chris | yay! |
18:17 | yeah thats fixed sekjal | |
18:18 | at least thats what my cursory test tell me | |
18:18 | sekjal | interesting... still got some folks noticing it, and they're on very recent code |
18:18 | chris | hmmm |
18:19 | but you cant replicate? | |
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18:25 | sekjal | nope, can't replicate on my machine |
18:25 | and comparing the code, it's the same on the batchMod.pl, batchMod-del.tmpl and batchMod-edit.tmpl | |
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18:26 | chris | C4/Auth.pm |
18:26 | check that | |
18:26 | thats where CAN_user_tools_items_batchdel etc | |
18:26 | gets set | |
18:27 | lavamind | hello, using koha-3.2.2, I'm trying to install translated preferences, but it's not working : running translate -p install <lang>, the *.pref files are created but not translated! (still in English) |
18:27 | chris | what language lavamind ? |
18:27 | lavamind | yet in the .po files, I see there are translations for prefs in that language |
18:27 | fr-FR | |
18:28 | chris | drop an email to koha-translatelists.koha-community.org |
18:28 | cait | lavamind: standard install or dev install? |
18:28 | lavamind | cait: standard |
18:28 | cait | there was a bug fixed for standard install - I think in 3.2.3 |
18:28 | before it was not working for standard | |
18:28 | chris | ahh that might be it |
18:28 | lavamind | oh |
18:28 | should I clone from git then ? | |
18:28 | chris | you could get 3.2.3 and upgrade |
18:29 | cait | you can update to 3.2.3 that should work too - but have not tested it since it was changed |
18:29 | chris | is it a production system? |
18:29 | lavamind | chris : yes, more or less, it's for teaching |
18:30 | chris | then do a backup or 2 before upgrading :) |
18:30 | cait: can you remember the bug number? | |
18:30 | lavamind | the class hasn't started yet, so it's not too bad |
18:31 | if you have a commit id that could work too | |
18:31 | chris | ill just check it has been fixed (lots of other fixes in 3.2.3 so worth upgrading anyway) |
18:31 | http://koha-community.org/2101koha-3-2-3/ | |
18:31 | cait | chris: it was from frederic |
18:31 | perhaps several fixed in one bug | |
18:31 | * chris | will look |
18:32 | cait | where are you from lavamind? |
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18:32 | lavamind | cait: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
18:32 | cait | ah |
18:32 | sekjal | chris: aaaah, there's a difference in C4/Auth.pm, but it's the OPAC Public dev.... |
18:33 | cait | that's far away :) |
18:33 | lavamind | cait: yep 'the other side' |
18:34 | chris | ohh, do you know eric begin? |
18:34 | cait: cant find the commit | |
18:34 | lavamind | if you want the scoop, I work for a public college and we just dropped Workflows for Koha in the curriculum |
18:35 | chris | lavamind: maybe drop an email to koha-translatelists.koha-community.org, frederic (a fellow french speaker) is the translation manager |
18:35 | and will see it | |
18:35 | lavamind | chris: no, I dont think I know him |
18:35 | cait | chris: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c351178f595316798 |
18:35 | chris | and then the answer will be archived for all to see |
18:35 | thanks cait | |
18:35 | lavamind | I'm completely new to the Koha community here |
18:35 | chris | ahhh he works for inlibro |
18:35 | s/works/owns/ | |
18:36 | http://www.inlibro.com/solutions/koha | |
18:37 | and i work with someone who is from quebec city (lives in nz now) .. those the only 2 people from quebec i know :) | |
18:37 | lavamind: and that is excellent news about using Koha in the curriculum | |
18:38 | eric_b: you awake? :) | |
18:38 | lavamind | yes it is, I wish it would have been sooner, because I'm rushing to deploy 50 instances of Koha correctly |
18:38 | btw, should I use mod_perl &?? | |
18:39 | chris | lavamind/cait: that is exactly the commit you want, and its in 3.2.3 |
18:39 | lavamind: koha isnt totally mod_perl safe, having said that there are people using it, im fairly confident the opac can run under mod_perl with no major issues | |
18:40 | brice sanchez runs under mod_perl and is happy with it | |
18:40 | lavamind | chris: I'll stick to cgi then, performance shouldn't be much of an issue, reliability is more important |
18:40 | chris | *nod* |
18:40 | we are working on it, there are few circular refs and global variables to tidy up | |
18:41 | on a different note | |
18:43 | I am going to Access in Vancouver at the end of the year http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/ | |
18:44 | lavamind | chris: my field is more IT, so I doubt we'll meet there |
18:44 | chris | there is going to be a preconf about FOSS in libraries, which you may or may not want to attend, the conference itself is always great (from all accounts) (I think im speaking during the conference proper too) |
18:44 | lavamind: so is mine | |
18:44 | its an IT in libraries conference | |
18:44 | lavamind | I see, interesting |
18:46 | druthb | I've heard awesome things about Access. Wonder if I can get Brendan to send me... |
18:46 | chris | im sure you can :) |
18:47 | * druthb | would not turn down another opportunity to see chris, either. :) |
18:47 | chris | ok time for my bus, be back from on the bus, 3g permitting |
18:49 | lavamind | if I want the web installer to propose a language other the English, do I simply need to run misc/translator/translate from the uncompressed install dir? |
18:49 | or should I really just install translations _after_ "make install" ? | |
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18:54 | fredericd | lavamind: install translation before runing the web installer |
18:57 | lavamind | fredericd: ok, yeah, logical :) |
18:58 | chris | Back |
19:03 | druthb | sekjal++ # he's just so *danged* smart! |
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19:06 | cait | lavamind: it will select the sample sql files from the language you run the web installer |
19:07 | lavamind | cait: oh, even better! |
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19:10 | sekjal | tools/batchMod.pl line 436 |
19:10 | lavamind | is it feasible to duplicate a koha site (ie. one.koha.mydomain.com, two.koha.mydomain.com) automatically ? or am I really stuck running perl Makefile.PL every time ? |
19:11 | right now I'm thinking that by adjusting koha-http, koha-conf, I could make it work? | |
19:11 | cait | sorry, i have no experience with setting up multiple instances on one server |
19:11 | chris | lavamind: yes |
19:12 | cait | ah, and chris is back :) |
19:12 | chris | Use the koha-common debian packages |
19:12 | Then you run koha-create newsite | |
19:12 | 50 times | |
19:13 | :) | |
19:13 | lavamind | whoa, really |
19:13 | chris | Or, you can just do a standard install |
19:14 | Make 50 dbs, 50 apache config, and 50 koha-conf.xml | |
19:14 | Copying the first ones | |
19:14 | And changing db names and passwords | |
19:15 | then they all run from same codebase | |
19:15 | lavamind | chris: that's amazing, thank you so much |
19:16 | chris | No worries |
19:16 | lavamind | chris: I saw a page on the wiki about running multiple instance, but it was much more convoluted than that |
19:17 | chris | Yeah sep conf and db |
19:17 | Is all you really need | |
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19:17 | cait | hi fredericd |
19:17 | fredericd | hi cait |
19:17 | lavamind | and simple to implement in Puppet ;) |
19:18 | chris | The packages do things like cron jobs etc too |
19:18 | And zebra | |
19:18 | You will need to get 50 zebra instances running, so you will want to change the paths for where they store files | |
19:18 | You don't want them fighting each other | |
19:19 | Yup | |
19:19 | Puppet ftw | |
19:19 | Id love to get a FAI build for koha too | |
19:19 | lavamind | I see the .deb for 3.2.3 hasn't been uploaded yet, though |
19:20 | chris | Nope, will be done Monday nz time |
19:20 | Robin is on annual leave | |
19:20 | Ok my stop bbiab | |
19:34 | back | |
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19:35 | ebegin | hi guys |
19:35 | Hi lavamind. | |
19:38 | lavamind | hi ebegin |
19:38 | I just reinstalled using 3.2.3, and still no fr-FR prefs :( | |
19:42 | sekjal | got a fix for 5367; |
19:43 | cait | lavamind: any error messages? |
19:45 | chris | id love it if someone could take a look at 5657 |
19:45 | lavamind | cait: http://pastebin.com/mkf5aFxG |
19:45 | chris | and the patch submitted |
19:45 | and signoff | |
19:45 | want to reward the new guy ;) | |
19:46 | wizzyrea | doh I don't have any authorities |
19:46 | cait | lavamind: looks ok to me - no idea :( you have the po file for the pref? |
19:47 | bug 5657 | |
19:47 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5657 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, januszop, ASSIGNED, biblio records update fails when updating multiple authorities linked with the same biblio |
19:47 | lavamind | cait: in misc/translator/po : fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po fr-FR-pref.po |
19:47 | chris | someone with authorities :) |
19:48 | lavamind | cait: opac and intranet translations are installed OK |
19:48 | cait | lavamind: sorry, out of ideas now :( |
19:49 | you could add to the bug report that it's still not working | |
19:49 | ebegin | lavamind, make sure you have the files in your the installed version of Koha and not the installer directory... |
19:50 | you may have installed koha in /usr/share/koha/ | |
19:50 | lavamind | ebegin: I'm working exclusively from the installed koha dir, not installer |
19:51 | ebegin: yes, I made sure I'm at the right place, like I said, the template translations are not missing | |
19:51 | the .pref files are installed under fr-FR, but contain English strings | |
19:52 | fredericd | lavamind: is it a normal or devel install? |
19:53 | lavamind | fredericd: "standard" |
19:54 | fredericd | translated .pref files may have been copied in the wrong location |
19:54 | ebegin | lavamind, did you run ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i ... |
19:54 | fredericd | try a locate opac.pref |
19:54 | ebegin: ./tmpl_process3.pl doesn't handle .pref files translation | |
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19:56 | chris | heya Nate |
19:56 | Nate | Hi Chris!! |
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19:57 | lac | any particular reason why my marc records are not being added or updated to the search results? i tried running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_nozebra.pl but that didn't resolve the issue |
19:58 | chris | and you are definitely running nozebra? |
19:58 | what version of koha? | |
19:58 | lac | chris: yes, 3.2 |
19:58 | chris | 3.2.what? |
19:58 | 3.2.0 ? | |
19:58 | lac | chris: yes |
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19:59 | chris | id strongly suggest using zebra, and upgrading to 3.2.3 |
19:59 | lac | chris: ok |
20:00 | lavamind | fredericd: seems to me like .pref files are copies okay : http://pastebin.com/5F8XaKPh |
20:00 | chris | nozebra isnt maintained any more, but before you do that, can you check the records exist in the db? |
20:01 | lac | chris: yes, they exist in the db but their marc blob is outdated i guess, i'm attaching items to records and i'll get the error "item cannot be added" but then it gets added and i can't find the record by searching |
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20:03 | chris | ahh but the marc hasnt been updated? (or the marcxml) ie there is a new item but the marc hasnt been changed? |
20:03 | lac | chris: exactly |
20:04 | chris | right, then running zebra wont help, do you have a test instance you can upgrade to 3.2.3? |
20:05 | lac | chris: yes |
20:06 | chris | id give that a whirl, and also check your apache error logs |
20:07 | lavamind | fredericd, ebegin: I found the problem |
20:08 | ebegin | lavamind, what was it? |
20:09 | lavamind | based on the commit diff cait put here just before, there's a bug remaining in misc/translate |
20:09 | oops I mean LangInstaller.pm | |
20:11 | chris | it might be just a pet peeve of mine, but sending a .doc file about an open source workshop makes me dismiss it |
20:11 | fredericd | lavamind: could you be more specific? |
20:12 | lavamind | fredericd: yes, here http://pastebin.com/16gGa5Cp |
20:12 | sorry I was making the diff, heh | |
20:12 | with this patch, prefs are translated! | |
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20:17 | ebegin | lavamind, from which college are you ^ |
20:18 | fredericd | lavamind: yes, you're correct. Thanks. I will send a patch |
20:22 | chris | or lavamind could send one :) |
20:22 | everyone wants a line in the history file ;) | |
20:23 | fredericd | chris: you're correct :-) |
20:23 | This patch should be rattached to bug 5506 | |
20:23 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification |
20:26 | lavamind | fredericd: I'll submit the patch to the tracker |
20:27 | cait | :) |
20:27 | lavamind | ebegin: College Maisonneuve |
20:27 | I work in the IT dept | |
20:27 | ebegin | I see |
20:28 | fredericd | lavamind: to get your name on Koha history, as suggested by chris, you must send your patch with git |
20:28 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
20:28 | wizzyrea | < 87 ;) |
20:28 | druthb | more_committers++ |
20:28 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rest_of_the_world |
20:29 | lavamind | uh, you want to give me write access to Git ?? |
20:29 | fredericd | no, you format a patch and you send it to koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org |
20:29 | chris | no |
20:29 | fredericd | as explained on koha wiki |
20:29 | this way you will have your name on the patch | |
20:30 | druthb: the more the merrier | |
20:30 | * owen | wonders, "'roaming' bittorrents?" |
20:31 | chris | hehe yeah |
20:34 | owen | Didn't there used to be game where you would try to combine two words to arrive at the Google result with the least number of hits? |
20:34 | The phrase "roaming bittorrents," for the moment, gets zero hits. | |
20:35 | chris | :) |
20:36 | wizzyrea | owen: if there's not a game you just invented it |
20:36 | owen | The sad thing is I think this was like ten years ago |
20:39 | chris | cait: you about? |
20:40 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]late_toolkit_test | |
20:41 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/template_test | |
20:41 | we think we have fixed the utf8 and xslt issue and also fixed some of the scoping issues with global variables, if you have time to test sometime that would be great | |
20:41 | or anyone else for that matter | |
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20:53 | lavamind | fredericd: okay for the commit message : "Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations" ? |
20:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification |
20:54 | cait | here |
20:54 | fredericd | lavamind: 'in standard install' because it works on devel |
20:54 | cait | chris: issues with global variables? |
20:55 | lavamind | fredericd: ok |
20:55 | chris | cait: yeah theme/language etc template toolkit cares about scope, html::template doesnt |
20:55 | so some links used to be broken | |
20:55 | i think they are fixed now | |
20:56 | cait | ah ok |
20:56 | fredericd | lavamind: et merci, c'est du bon boulot ! |
20:56 | cait | I can try - but not before the weekend I think |
20:57 | * owen | will try to make some time as well |
20:58 | chris | thank you both |
20:59 | fredericd | chris: is it on template_test branch? |
20:59 | chris | thats the one |
21:00 | you can try the other one if you are brave (it runs the script to generate the templates) | |
21:00 | but template_test has them pregenerated | |
21:00 | fredericd | you mean with TT templates already there? |
21:00 | (I'm reading koha wiki) | |
21:01 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]late_toolkit_test | |
21:02 | chris | yep thats right |
21:02 | fredericd | and what has to be tested exactly? |
21:02 | I can see a location on the opac where accented characters are not properly displayed | |
21:05 | chris | cool those are the things we are looking for |
21:06 | can you update the wiki page with that info, and a url so we can recreate | |
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21:07 | chris | wb nate |
21:08 | Nate | Well Heeelllllooooo there |
21:08 | chris | heh |
21:11 | lavamind | fredericd: the patch is sent |
21:11 | commit id 0c48e2c1c43c8e1dfdbc18ed9debd1d2b5b6e905 | |
21:12 | cait | hi Nate |
21:12 | Nate | Hiya cait! |
21:12 | cait | lavamind. have you subscribed to the list before sending? |
21:13 | * chris_n | waves bye and heads home |
21:13 | chris | cya chris_n |
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21:17 | lavamind | cait: no, I haven't, I can't say I want to receive 50 emails a day about patches to Koha, for now anyway |
21:17 | from reading the wiki I understood that membership was optional | |
21:18 | someone just needs to moderate the message I suppose | |
21:18 | fredericd | lavamind: send me your patch by email. I will sign-off it and resubmit it to the list. |
21:18 | you still will get the credit for the patch | |
21:18 | cait | lavamind: I only wondered why it didn't come through yet |
21:20 | lavamind | fredericd: patch sent |
21:20 | fredericd | get it |
21:23 | lavamind | Perhaps this page should be adjusted : http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aff_client#Koha_3.2 |
21:23 | « Note: This will only work with a dev installation, not in a standard installation. To install additional languages in a standard installation you can still use the old script, but it will only work for translation of staff and opac, not for translation of system preferences. » <== not anymore, it works now! | |
21:23 | fredericd | lavamind: yes, this is not true anymore |
21:24 | lavamind | As of 3.2.4 ? |
21:25 | I suppose the patch will make it in the next minor release ? | |
21:25 | fredericd | lavamind: this problem is for 3.2 Release Manager |
21:25 | lavamind | heheh |
21:26 | fredericd | we have now a problem with 3.2 monthly version release |
21:26 | The release doesn't contains translated Koha templates | |
21:26 | and Koha don't have an integrated way for generating templates from .po files | |
21:27 | so, people are supposed to do it by hand, as you've done | |
21:27 | lavamind | it would indeed be nice for those to be integrated in the install itself |
21:27 | fredericd | but average person installing Koha on 'standard' mode are not supposed to run script by hand |
21:28 | yes, the plan is to modify web installer to translate templates during the installation process | |
21:28 | lavamind | yeah, and even then, lots of docs still mention the "tmpl_process3.pl" script |
21:29 | it was difficult to understand why those two commands existed | |
21:29 | fredericd | This will be done for 3.4 not 3.2 (translation from .po file on the fly) |
21:30 | chris | got 3 more months to do that :-) |
21:30 | wizzyrea | boo no brooke |
21:30 | lavamind | installing translations from the web installer would be awsome |
21:31 | fredericd | chris: That's the reason why I'm curious to see new TT templates... |
21:31 | chris | fredericd: chris hall has been working on rewriting the translator scripts to work with template toolkit, it will mean not having to retranslate everything |
21:31 | fredericd | that sounds too good to be true... |
21:31 | chris | so just need to get the webinstaller to call the right script |
21:31 | well .po files dont actually care where the string exists | |
21:31 | so its not that hard to do | |
21:33 | fredericd | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]nuary/013704.html |
21:34 | lavamind: ^^ it's your patch | |
21:34 | and one new commiter | |
21:35 | wizzyrea | lavamind is erupting patches all over us! |
21:36 | lavamind++ | |
21:36 | cait | lavamind++ |
21:36 | wizzyrea | I had to. Sorry. |
21:36 | druthb | lavamind++ |
21:37 | @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! | |
21:37 | munin | druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
21:37 | druthb | wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! |
21:37 | ibot | i already had it that way, druthb. |
21:37 | druthb | why isn't copy/paste working right...grrr. |
21:37 | @quote add wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us! | |
21:37 | munin | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #118 added. |
21:37 | ibot | i already had it that way, druthb. |
21:37 | druthb | adium -- |
21:38 | gmcharlt | what is lavamind? |
21:38 | ibot | lavamind is erupting patches all over us! |
21:38 | wizzyrea | rofl |
21:38 | druthb | hehehe |
21:38 | cait | lol |
21:38 | wizzyrea | lavamind is also a koha committer |
21:38 | ibot | okay, wizzyrea. |
21:38 | wizzyrea | what is lavamind? |
21:38 | ibot | lavamind is erupting patches all over us! or a koha committer |
21:39 | fredericd | chris: for, the isn't any place in koha with TT where accented characters are properly displayed |
21:41 | cait | fredericd: testing with english templates everything that comes from the db? |
21:41 | like branch names with accents? | |
21:41 | fredericd | yes |
21:41 | cait | that's my old bug then |
21:41 | lavamind | lol @ibot |
21:41 | chris | yeah that works here i wonder what is differnet then |
21:41 | fredericd | but even on staff search result page |
21:42 | cait | chris: I thought we found a solution? you made me add a line to a file and it worked after that |
21:42 | chris | yeah, and only the xslt didnt |
21:42 | and then we fixed that | |
21:42 | will have to investigate more | |
21:42 | cait | so we have to choose? ;) |
21:42 | chris | no |
21:42 | here both work | |
21:42 | lavamind | hey folks, thanks for your help, I think I'm ready to go in terms of deploying Koha |
21:42 | chris | maybe chris missed pushing something |
21:43 | cait | ok, bed time for me here :) |
21:43 | druthb | g'night, cait! |
21:43 | cait | a lot of work waiting tomorrow |
21:43 | fredericd | I can see recent patches with utf8::decode... |
21:44 | cait | chris: I wrote a big note and todo in my calendar to test :) |
21:44 | good night / day all :) | |
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21:47 | jcamins | Does anyone know how to use an Android device as a barcode reader hooked to a computer? |
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21:48 | sekjal | jcamins: the Barcode app allows for custom URLs, but I'm not sure it can do real-time scanning as an input device to another computer |
21:49 | that'd be wicked neat, though, so someone must have tried | |
21:49 | * jcamins | needs to demonstrate what a barcode scanner would work like. |
21:50 | sekjal | ah... I'd send you my CueCat, if it was electronically transmittable |
21:50 | jcamins | Thanks. |
21:50 | If I'd known I was going to need one, I'd have declawed a cue cat. | |
21:51 | wizzyrea | jcamins: does the computer in question have a webcam? |
21:51 | jcamins | My Mac does. |
21:51 | wizzyrea | ok, then you can use that as a barcode scanner, one sec |
21:52 | sekjal | http://androidforums.com/appli[…]e-scanner-pc.html |
21:52 | less immediately applicable, but on topic | |
21:53 | jcamins | Interesting. |
21:54 | * wizzyrea | knows that she had a barcode reader for mac... wtf was it |
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21:56 | wizzyrea | this is not what I was thinking of |
21:56 | sekjal | anyway, got to get. have a good evening, #koha! |
21:56 | wizzyrea | http://www.scannerfly.com/ |
21:56 | but might help you | |
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21:59 | wizzyrea | zbar is the oss cam->barcode scanning utility |
21:59 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/zbar/ | |
21:59 | but no binary for mac :/ | |
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22:00 | jcamins | :( |
22:01 | wizzyrea | i'm still looking :D |
22:01 | Aha! | |
22:01 | http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16461/evobarcode | |
22:01 | jcamins | http://www.bruji.com/cocoa/barcode.html |
22:02 | wizzyrea | and that! |
22:02 | woot! | |
22:02 | jcamins | Thank you! |
22:02 | wizzyrea++ | |
22:02 | wizzyrea | :) sure |
22:02 | ahshucks | |
22:03 | and yours is universal | |
22:03 | mine was ppc only (rosetta) | |
22:03 | oh it uses zbar :) of course it does | |
22:04 | darling | http://www.springenwerk.com/20[…]oogles-zxing.html |
22:04 | wizzyrea | oh yea, darling's been working with zxing |
22:04 | darling | ^ a bit raw but I like zxing on android |
22:05 | wizzyrea | ye, that's the one that I'm using on my android |
22:05 | oh, for that you'll need the xcode tools, for bruji | |
22:06 | jcamins | Hm. |
22:07 | This is a bit trickier than I would have expected. | |
22:07 | I have xcode. I'll try bruji now. | |
22:08 | wizzyrea | i know there were more >.< |
22:09 | * jcamins | gets frustrated with EvoBarcode and moves on. |
22:10 | jcamins | Clearly I'm missing something here. |
22:11 | wizzyrea | yea, i'm not sure the last time I tried it worked :/ |
22:12 | * jcamins | gives up |
22:16 | wizzyrea | meh that's maddening |
22:16 | * wizzyrea | thinks perhaps she needs better light |
22:17 | wizzyrea | aha |
22:17 | Does EvoBarcode work with the built-in iSight on iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro computers? | |
22:17 | No. The built-in iSight does not have focus control, and will not work reliably with EvoBarcode. For best results we recommend an external iSight or similar camera with focus control. | |
22:17 | I don't have an external iSight. Can I use a different kind of camera? | |
22:17 | Yes. EvoBarcode will recognize any QuickTime-compatible camera, however not all cameras provide a high enough quality image for barcode scanning. We recommend the external iSight because it provides a very high quality image, and good manual focus controls, but other users have had success with other IIDC cameras, DV camcorders, and USB cameras. | |
22:18 | so, try your point and shoot, if it does webcam-type stuff | |
22:22 | jcamins | Blah. |
22:22 | Don't have a camera. | |
22:22 | Maybe Nate does. | |
22:22 | Or maybe I just give up on this, and tell the library "when you have a working barcode scanner, it'll be really cool." | |
22:23 | Nate | I have cameras |
22:23 | chris | they cost next to nothing |
22:23 | Nate | :) |
22:23 | chris | and you can get one at pretty much any store like frys, or best buy |
22:23 | just grab a cheap usb one | |
22:23 | wizzyrea | cameras or barcode scanners? |
22:24 | chris | barcode scanner |
22:24 | itll come in hand for lots of things | |
22:24 | jcamins | chris: wait, let me guess... it's nice and warm in NZ, isn't it? :P |
22:24 | wizzyrea | I haven't ever seen one at our best buy |
22:24 | chris | they had them last time i was there, try staples |
22:25 | even if you dont get one now, definitely get one, it saves tons of time testing things | |
22:25 | jcamins | Yeah, I need one at some point. |
22:26 | chris | course your phone works with koha too |
22:26 | thats how we issued everyone at kohacon | |
22:28 | jcamins | chris: one step at a time. First we introduce computers, *then* we introduce smartphones. :) |
22:29 | wizzyrea | but yea, def get one |
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23:05 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
23:06 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -7.9�C (5:07 PM CST on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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23:36 | wasabi | ooh, chris' dad's got 3 books on the processing-bench at kapiti-lib |
23:37 | chris | heh |
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