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03:51 | wasabi | love this one…… |
03:52 | http://tech.slashdot.org/story[…]nformed-Customers | |
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04:27 | kmkale | good morning all |
04:27 | chris around? | |
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06:13 | chris | evening |
06:29 | fredericd | good evening chris |
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07:11 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07kcmaster.old * rv3.02.00-586-g9ef05a8 10/installer/data/mysql/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Bug 5551: Adding missing system preferences |
07:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5551 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, The shelf browser should be able to ignore things like location |
07:14 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03colin.campbell 07new/enh/bug_4309 * rv3.02.00-587-ga8e1e54 10/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm: Bug 4309 Do not throw error on auth search of multiple fields |
07:14 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4309 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Authorities : Multiple values search leads to Error 500 |
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07:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 317 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
07:46 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ab3a3fac83d99a9b> / Bug 4309 Do not throw error on auth search of multiple fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dfb8bd10e555e0057> |
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08:09 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #317: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/317/ |
08:09 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 4309 Do not throw error on auth search of multiple fields | |
08:09 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab | |
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08:23 | kf | good morning #koha |
08:23 | chris | hi kf |
08:23 | kf | hi chris :) |
08:39 | fines_management-- | |
08:40 | I wish it wuold not show all these english strings | |
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08:46 | kf | morning ivanc |
08:47 | ivanc | guten morgen kf |
08:47 | hallo #koha | |
08:51 | kf | hi ivanc :) |
09:10 | hm repeating myself | |
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11:35 | kf | munin botsnack cookie |
11:35 | munin | kf: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command. |
11:35 | kf | aw |
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12:40 | Nate | morning #koha |
12:41 | druthb | hi. |
12:41 | :) | |
12:41 | Nate | hi druthb |
12:42 | jwagner | morning, all |
12:49 | Nate | morning jwagner |
12:51 | tcohen | hi all at #koha |
12:52 | back to work after summer holidays surfing in brazil | |
12:52 | :-D | |
12:54 | jwagner | @wunder 20817 |
12:54 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -12.5�C (7:56 AM EST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Steady). |
12:54 | jwagner | Oh, rub it in, tcohen! |
12:55 | druthb | winter-- |
12:58 | jwagner | It is just a tad chilly out there this morning.... |
12:59 | Of course, when we're all basking in summer, those poor folks in the southern hemisphere will be freezing :-) | |
13:00 | druthb | "basking"? You "bask" on the beach...one does not "bask" in the Potomac River basin...you "melt" or "swelter" or something, but you don't "bask." :P |
13:00 | jwagner | picky, picky, picky. You could be back in Texas, remember! |
13:01 | druthb | mhm. like living in a microwave. |
13:02 | jcamins_a | druthb: hopefully without the unfortunate tendency to cause living beings to spontaneously explode. |
13:02 | Good morning, #koha | |
13:02 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
13:02 | druthb | normally, yes, jcamins. :) |
13:02 | tcohen | druthb: :-D |
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13:15 | jwagner | @quote add <druthb> "basking"? You "bask" on the beach...one does not "bask" in the Potomac River basin...you "melt" or "swelter" or something, but you don't "bask." :P |
13:15 | munin | jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #117 added. |
13:15 | * druthb | giggles |
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13:21 | owen | Hi all |
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13:36 | ebegin | good morning! |
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13:36 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, quebec |
13:36 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -27.0�C (8:00 AM EST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -33.0�C. Windchill: -35.0�C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
13:36 | owen | Ouch! |
13:36 | ebegin | Can you believe it... -27... |
13:36 | Yes, it's cold!!! | |
13:37 | owen | We had -19C on Saturday morning |
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13:37 | * ebegin | is ready to move in California, Hawaii, NZ... any takers? |
13:40 | ebegin | owen, in NZ? |
13:40 | -19? | |
13:40 | ibot | -19 |
13:40 | owen | Ohio |
13:40 | ebegin | ok. I was wondering where on earth the summer was ;) |
13:43 | Oak | \o |
13:51 | jcamins | ibot: 5+5? |
13:51 | ibot | 10 |
13:51 | jcamins | 5+5? |
13:51 | ibot | 10 |
13:51 | druthb | hm. |
13:51 | ibot: 9^6? | |
13:51 | ibot | 15 |
13:51 | druthb | or not. |
13:51 | owen | ibot: 9#6? |
13:51 | ibot | no idea, owen |
13:51 | jcamins | ibot: 9**6 |
13:51 | ibot | 531441 |
13:52 | jcamins | Is that right? |
13:52 | druthb | clever. |
13:52 | owen | ibot: 9 standing near 6 and glaring? |
13:52 | ibot | owen: wish i knew |
13:52 | druthb | yes. |
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13:56 | ebegin | Hey, is it possible to use the 852$b value for searching a specific branch? |
13:57 | MARC852$b | |
13:57 | MARC 852$b | |
13:57 | (isn't there a command that munin tells us the description of a marc field?) | |
13:57 | druthb | marc 852 |
13:58 | @marc 852 | |
13:58 | munin | druthb: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8] |
13:58 | ebegin | @marc 852 b |
13:58 | munin | ebegin: Sublocation or collection The specific department, library, collection, etc., within the holding organization in which the item is located or from which it is available. (Repeatable) |
13:58 | ebegin | thanks druthb |
13:58 | druthb | you betcha. :) |
14:00 | ebegin | So, I would like my search uses this field instead of the item current location or permanent location. Some of our bib doesn't have items (they are available online). Any idea ? |
14:10 | kmkale | heya druthb jcamins ebegin owen |
14:10 | druthb | hi, kmkale. :) |
14:10 | ebegin | hey kmkale! How are you? |
14:11 | How the weather in india? :) | |
14:11 | kmkale | good how about you? |
14:11 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, quebec |
14:11 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -26.0�C (9:00 AM EST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -33.0�C. Windchill: -32.0�C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
14:11 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
14:11 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (6:40 PM IST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
14:11 | ebegin | :) |
14:11 | kmkale | :) |
14:11 | ebegin | almost the same |
14:11 | kmkale | yup with a minor - |
14:12 | ebegin | Not a big deal... |
14:12 | owen | Wow ebegin, if kmkale gave you all of that you'd still be cold. |
14:12 | kmkale | :)) |
14:12 | ebegin | hehe |
14:12 | kmkale | and i will freeze too |
14:13 | ebegin | Here, in summer we can have +34 and -34 in winter... |
14:13 | kmkale | ouch |
14:14 | we are like 20 to 38 | |
14:14 | jwagner | ebegin, I went camping in Quebec once, in August. The temperature was below freezing at night. I was not equipped for that :-( |
14:14 | ebegin | I may plan to move in India too |
14:15 | jwagner, that was exceptionnaly cold for summer. | |
14:16 | jwagner, do you remember where you were> | |
14:16 | jwagner | That's what _I_ thought. I cut that trip short & went down into Maine, where it was warmer. |
14:16 | I was north of Montreal, I think, in the Laurentians. Near Chicoutimi (sp) | |
14:18 | ebegin | Ok, I see. What the h**l were you doing there ? :) |
14:19 | jwagner | Looking at pretty scenery, and freezing my extremities off! |
14:19 | ebegin | hehe |
14:19 | jwagner | I spent most of one night split between the campground's bathroom and my car, both of which were warmer than my tent/sleeping bag. |
14:21 | kmkale | ebegin: you can explore career opportunities in India during KohaCon11 if it comes here ;) |
14:21 | * jwagner | is still considering exploring career opportunities in New Zealand :-) |
14:22 | ebegin | :) I may. And I may also considere NZ and California too ;) |
14:22 | kmkale | I can assure you of huge Indian Library professional participation |
14:22 | a very close friend just moved to California :( | |
14:23 | atz | chris: I'd be interested to see some of the catalyst-style personal debian packages, if it is not a security issue to share an example. |
14:37 | wizzyrea | whoa, do we really get atz back? :) |
14:37 | atz | wizzyrea: indeed, somewhat. |
14:37 | wizzyrea | \o/ yay! |
14:38 | kf | :) |
14:38 | atz: you should probably ask robin - but I think he is on vacation | |
14:39 | atz | thx kf |
14:39 | wizzyrea: state library is running millenium *and* horizon... w/ an evergreen test server setup. but koha is still of interest. I'll chip in when I can. | |
14:40 | wizzyrea | O.O |
14:40 | * wizzyrea | shudders |
14:42 | atz | yeah, last week I got to switch between III serials training and SirsiDynix Symphony sales pitch all day w/o break. |
14:42 | * jwagner | thinks that's likely to cause split personalities |
14:42 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
14:43 | atz | actually i was happy to see symphony stuff is a lot better polished than Unicorn used to be when I was at INFOhio |
14:43 | and III serials is very usable | |
14:43 | of course the bugs in each still drive me nuts. | |
14:43 | kf | and you can't repair them yourself... |
14:44 | atz | yeah, definitely can't even touch the III stuff. i'm responsible for a server I can't even ssh onto. |
14:44 | kf | uh |
14:44 | wizzyrea | ouch |
14:44 | owen | Boo. |
14:45 | atz | i'm kinda "meh" on it. not being able to do anything there frees me up to work more on koha/EG |
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14:56 | wizzyrea | sometimes it's nice to have a server that you only have to make sure it's running and working. |
14:57 | owen | Kinda like a hamster. |
15:03 | wizzyrea | ya, minimal feeding and tending required. |
15:03 | the occasional outing in a hamster ball | |
15:05 | jwagner | but not a cheap replacement when they die :-( |
15:21 | kmkale | बये ालल। घोोद निगहत |
15:21 | bye all good night ;) | |
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15:33 | sekjal | anyone having trouble with the latest changes to the authorised values administration page? |
15:33 | if the list is non-null, the submit button disappears | |
15:33 | wizzyrea | O.O |
15:34 | sekjal | and I can't get more than single page worth of results to display |
15:34 | the first 20 of 49 are displaying, but the template is set to show 50 | |
15:34 | very weird | |
15:34 | owen | Bug 5650 |
15:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5650 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, item type page key wrong |
15:35 | owen | Probably related |
15:37 | sekjal | yeah, something with those template changes is wonky |
15:40 | owen | I should have time to look at it today sekjal, unless you already are |
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15:41 | sekjal | owen: you could probably find the root of the problem quicker than I. |
15:57 | ebegin | gmcharlt, around? |
15:58 | gmcharlt | ebegin: yes |
15:58 | ebegin | A quick question about MARC::Field. |
15:58 | Is there a way to get an array from the subfields() function? | |
16:00 | right now, when we have a field with a repeated subfield, we get the concatenation of the subfields values, ex: "value1|value2" | |
16:06 | gmcharlt, do you understand what I mean? :) | |
16:07 | gmcharlt | ebegin: MARC::Field->subfields() returns a list of listrefs |
16:07 | owen | I've worked with Koha so long I no longer know how my country spells 'authorized' |
16:07 | gmcharlt | as long as you are evaluating the results in list context instead of scalar conext, it shouldn't be concatenating them together |
16:08 | ebegin | gmcharlt, ok, let me check that. |
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16:18 | owen | Man, if you're showing your catalogers an example from your test system make sure the barcode isn't "wrong" or prepare for a freak-out |
16:19 | jcamins | Wrong library prefix? |
16:19 | owen | Yeah, to them it was like it was nails on a chalkboard. |
16:20 | I had to say hey, it's just an example. | |
16:24 | wizzyrea | oy |
16:40 | fcapo | hello, I'm still having a problem with my search results: Some books appear as "No Title" and the link points to an error page because borrowernumber="" |
16:41 | Tried reindexing many times. I'm using the -x parameter with rebuild_zebra because I have some huge records that make rebuild_zebra stop without it. | |
16:42 | The records that show "No title" aren't the large ones. The problem seems to affect random records. Looked at their XML and saw nothing stange. | |
16:42 | strange* | |
16:44 | I've been looking at that problem for a long time and still didn't find a solution :( Zebra seems to send some empty records when the syntax is set as "usmarc". | |
16:45 | When I set it as "XML", I get the results correctly, but Koha can't read them because it uses MARC::Record->new_from_usmarc() | |
16:53 | owen | sekjal: I just sent you a patch to test, if you're willing |
16:53 | For authorised_values.pl | |
16:54 | sekjal | owen: absolutely, thanks! |
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17:09 | chris | atz: we package everything :), did you mean the koha packages? (robin maintains them), or the user packages that we use to add users to a server? |
17:10 | atz | chris: the latter |
17:12 | chris | cant show you the git repo, i can show you a built package tho |
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17:12 | atz | that'd be fine |
17:13 | chris | i lie |
17:13 | i can show you the repo | |
17:13 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]tor.git;a=summary | |
17:14 | atz | thx |
17:16 | owen | Oh crap, chris--The patch you pushed for Bug 3659 was totally the wrong one! |
17:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab |
17:17 | chris | bin/clone-new-sysadmin is the first place to look |
17:17 | * owen | begs chris to revert |
17:17 | atz | chris: thx |
17:17 | chris | ill revert the merge owen |
17:18 | * owen | bangs his head on his desk |
17:19 | chris | ill let you update the bug status |
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17:23 | CIA-1 | Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_3659 * rv3.02.00-589-ge1b1c43 10/ (14 files in 6 dirs): Revert "Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab" |
17:23 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab |
17:24 | chris | reverted |
17:24 | owen | Thank you. |
17:24 | This week has nowhere to go but up. | |
17:25 | jwagner | That's what I thought about last week. Boy, was _I_ wrong.... |
17:27 | sekjal | owen++ (for his work on bug 5650 today) |
17:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5650 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, item type page key wrong |
17:28 | owen | I've got a follow-up that helps itemtypes.pl too |
17:28 | sekjal | very cool |
17:29 | I'd be happy to test it out, after I grab a bite to eat | |
17:30 | hudsonbot | Starting build 318 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:30 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]418e2a0e3c8dc9e0d> |
17:32 | jcamins | Cat's home. :D |
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17:40 | atz | chris: the catalyst sysadmin stuff appears not to really use apt's dependency checking |
17:41 | instead doing stuff like : if ($? != 0) {die "You need git-core installed to use this program."...} | |
17:50 | owen | git fetch timing out for anyone else? |
17:51 | fcapo | I think I have found a way to fix my "No title" problem, but it will take some time to fix. |
17:52 | If I set the Zebra connection syntax to XML and then change all the MARC::Record->new_from_usmarc call to MARC::Record->new_from_xml, all my search results appear correctly. | |
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17:53 | cait | hi #koha |
17:53 | fcapo | But I'd need to find and modify almost every instances of new_from_usmarc. I'll also need to change the calls to MARC::File::USMARC->decode :S |
17:57 | Just a question: is it a good idea to change the Zebra connection syntax to XML and change every new_from_usmarc to new_from_xml? I could add a setting in the preferences to let the user choose the format they want to use. | |
17:57 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #318: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/318/ |
17:57 | Chris Cormack: Revert "Fix for Bug 3659, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab" | |
17:59 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
18:00 | jwagner | chris, since you're online, do you know what record encoding was used in Koha 2.x? We're having a hard time converting several sites -- doesn't seem to be anything recognizable like latin1 or utf-8 etc. |
18:00 | Hoping someone will remember... | |
18:01 | chris | It'd be whatever you had you mysql tables set to |
18:02 | Fcapo: its slower from xml, that's the main reason | |
18:02 | fcapo | I tested it on my instance, it isn't noticeably slower for me |
18:03 | chris | It is with a lot of records |
18:04 | fcapo | I got 82000 records on this instance |
18:04 | chris | Yeah I'm talking lots :) |
18:04 | Add another 0 or 2 | |
18:05 | You could try benchmarking | |
18:05 | fcapo | ok :S . Still, it seems the only solution I found to prevent my search results from sending "No title" items randomly. |
18:05 | chris | Yeah, I've never seen that happen though |
18:06 | On all the kohas I run | |
18:06 | So there must be another solution too | |
18:06 | fcapo | It doesn't happen if rebuild_zebra is used without -x |
18:06 | but I need -x so I can process my large records | |
18:07 | jwagner | chris, the records seem to have a mixture of encoding, not just what's in the MySQL config. I was hoping for some magic answer :-) |
18:07 | chris | The way to do it would be to not just change everything to from xml |
18:07 | Because that may cause other problems down the track | |
18:08 | It would be to put that in a subroutine, and use a syspref | |
18:08 | atz | jwagner: sounds like a bear. |
18:08 | fcapo | That's what I'm talking about, adding a preference so an encoding could be chosen. |
18:08 | chris | So if you set createfromxml it uses xml, otherwise from marc |
18:09 | C4::Record is where id put it | |
18:09 | jwagner | atz, it's a whole menagerie :-( |
18:10 | atz | yeah, i had a not-fully-setup mysql w/ the wrong encodings hosting lithuanian koha records |
18:10 | once... | |
18:11 | jwagner | We have about three sites simultaneously, trying to upgrade from some flavor of 2.x, and having trouble with the encoding on all of them. Sigh. |
18:11 | atz | yeah, before you start changing mysql configs make sure to document what they are (were) when the data was entered |
18:12 | if you can't figure out where you started, you have a lot less chance of getting where you want to go | |
18:12 | jwagner | milk, spilt, crying over :-( |
18:12 | Our dataloader thinks some of them are double-encoded and others are in no coding she recognizes. | |
18:13 | atz | might go back to some backup dumps from before the config changes and check. |
18:13 | probably are double encoded though | |
18:14 | but there were always weird things in MARC8 to try to do diacritical/combining chars | |
18:15 | the default encoding in mysql changed between 4.x and 5.x too, iirc | |
18:16 | having started out as swedish or something | |
18:22 | chris_n` is now known as chris_n | |
18:29 | fcapo | How could I name a subroutine that gets a raw Zebra search result (from SimpleSearch for example) and converts it into a MARC::Record object depending on the Zebra result syntax used (XML or USMARC) :/ |
18:34 | chris | zebra_to_marcrecord |
18:34 | or something like that | |
18:35 | fcapo | ok, now I'm wondering if I'd put it in C4::Search because it is zebra related, or C4::Record because it is record related :P |
18:38 | chris | you have to make sure you only change the calls that are coming from zebra too |
18:38 | not other places that are doing things with the marc column in biblioitems (if there are any) | |
18:39 | right time to go catch my bus | |
18:41 | sekjal_a is now known as sekjal | |
19:01 | chris | Back |
19:06 | And loving ubuntu choosing libreoffice over the corp controlled openoffice | |
19:06 | slef | hi all. End of a long day here :) Up at 6, out before 7,in the city by 8. |
19:06 | chris: I think the logical conclusion is for ubuntu users to choose debian over the corp controlled ubuntu, isn't it? ;-) | |
19:07 | chris | I could lend you a kid that runs on that schedule |
19:07 | slef | yeah, naw. |
19:07 | chris | Slef: the smart ones do :) |
19:07 | * cait | waves to chris and slef |
19:07 | chris | Heya cait |
19:07 | slef | hi cait |
19:07 | * slef | vanishes into INBOX |
19:09 | cait | if it was my inbox ... never to be seen again |
19:09 | * slef | sees a freecycle WANTED ad for a yurt |
19:10 | slef | there's all sorts out there |
19:10 | chris | Heh |
19:11 | Large mongolian population near you? :) | |
19:11 | slef | yeah, in the middle of Bridgwater (a small industrial town) |
19:11 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
19:11 | slef | </sarcasm> |
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19:23 | ivanc | hi #koha |
19:23 | guten abend cait | |
19:23 | cait | hi ivanc |
19:31 | owen | schuster awake? |
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19:55 | magnus | kia ora, #koha! |
19:57 | cait | hi magnus :) |
19:58 | magnus | hiya cait! |
19:58 | cait | it's been a terrible silent monday morning without you ) |
19:58 | magnus | sorry about that... meeting all day - wont be back home and normal until next monday |
19:58 | cait | it's ok, I will survive ;) |
19:59 | magnus | goody! |
19:59 | chris | hi magnus |
19:59 | magnus | hi chris |
20:00 | good job with the os academy! | |
20:00 | chris | ibeardsle did all the hard work |
20:01 | magnus | ahh... ;-) |
20:01 | and you just sat there and watched the test coverage grow? | |
20:02 | slef | hi magnus |
20:02 | bye all - dinner+sleep here | |
20:02 | chris | well no i did that bit, i ibeardsle did all the organising ;) |
20:03 | magnus | g'night slef |
20:06 | chris | cya slef |
20:06 | ibeardsle | not all, |
20:06 | ruth did the collecting of students | |
20:06 | the tutors did the teaching | |
20:06 | chris | ahh she did a great job too |
20:06 | ibeardsle | the mentors had the projects working |
20:07 | I just stood/sat around stressing | |
20:07 | magnus | sounds like you all did your bits and pieces... ;-) |
20:07 | chris | ibeardsle: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]success-for-koha/ |
20:07 | magnus | hope the students realize how lucky they were! |
20:07 | ibeardsle | I think the trick is to stress before the event rather than during |
20:07 | chris | and http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]3-2-3-statistics/ |
20:07 | Zach sneaked into 4th place | |
20:09 | magnus | hehe, cool |
20:10 | today and tomorrow i'm in a place called Notodden - they have a university college that will start a master degree in FOSS this fall | |
20:10 | i don't know the details, but it sounds really cool | |
20:11 | ibeardsle | chris: they all appear in those first two lists! |
20:12 | magnus: if you can find a link on that, I'd be interested in tracking more info down | |
20:12 | rhcl | Notodden is on a lake, wonder how the fishing is there? |
20:13 | chris | magnus: and if they offer extramural (distance study) id be potentially interested in takin the course :) |
20:13 | magnus | not sure about the big lake, there has been lots of industry here so it might be a bit polluted - but they say there are lots of places to fish in the surrounding areas! |
20:14 | i'll check what info they have | |
20:15 | rhcl | it's about 100 km from langesund, on the ocean, there should be a few carp out in the ocean... |
20:16 | magnus | http://www.hit.no/eng/HiT/Stud[…]boration-with-UoA |
20:16 | rhcl: sounds like you know this neck of the woods like the back of your hand? | |
20:17 | rhcl | yep, me and google maps |
20:17 | :) | |
20:17 | magnus | "Language of instruction: English" yay! |
20:17 | chris | w00t |
20:17 | magnus | rhcl: hehe |
20:18 | chris: "However, the study programme is not primarily web-based; in the first year much of the instruction will be given in Kristiansand." | |
20:18 | chris | ah dangit |
20:19 | magnus | :-( |
20:19 | chris | not sure i can convince work to send me to norway |
20:19 | magnus | you can try! ;-) |
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20:29 | magnus | time to go - see you tomorrow! |
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20:42 | ebegin | what could be a syntax to search multiple branches at once ? |
20:42 | I would like to limit the results to more than one branches. | |
20:44 | cait | not sure they are working - but pehaps you could try search groups? |
20:44 | the groups that can be defined for branches | |
20:44 | chris | ebegin you can do it with ccl, or a crafted url |
20:45 | lemme find you an exampl | |
20:45 | e | |
20:45 | ebegin | cait, I can not really group the branches. I want to let the user pick (using a check boxes) the sites |
20:46 | cait | ah - sounds like a nice feature |
20:46 | we have only small libraries so far 1 branch each :) | |
20:46 | but we are working on one with 5 branches right now | |
20:55 | ebegin | chris, by ccl, you mean using "branch:DOC and branch:ARCH" for example? |
20:55 | chris | except with OR |
20:55 | ebegin | yep, of course ;) |
20:55 | jwagner | owen, online? |
20:55 | owen | Yes |
20:56 | jwagner | You are working on Bug 5594 currently? |
20:56 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5594 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, default sort order for items on bib records |
20:56 | chris | meeting time bbiab |
20:56 | owen | jwagner: No. If I was it would be marked "assigned" |
20:56 | jwagner | Or maybe I'm thinking of a different bug but can't find it -- I thought you were working on something that always displayed the user's library's holdings first. |
20:57 | * jwagner | could be hallucinating, of course... |
20:58 | owen | Not me |
20:58 | jwagner | OK, faulty memory then. Thanks. |
20:59 | owen | The feature sounds familiar, but I wasn't working on it |
21:00 | jwagner | I could swear someone was, and I thought there was a patch. But I can't find anything in bugzilla that seems relevant except that one. |
21:01 | I'll look some more tomorrow. Going home now.... | |
21:02 | jwagner left #koha | |
21:05 | gmcharlt | is anybody else having problems accessing git.koha-community.org as of about five minutes ago? |
21:06 | moodaepo | gmcharlt: confirmed |
21:06 | gmcharlt | looks like a basic connectivity or server problem, so I can't log in |
21:07 | * gmcharlt | floats the bat signal to sekjal and any other ByWater folk who can check |
21:07 | sekjal | gmcharlt: we're on it |
21:08 | gmcharlt | thx |
21:08 | moodaepo | Is the repo on the same server as koha-community.org |
21:08 | gmcharlt | no |
21:09 | * moodaepo | was just curious |
21:09 | gmcharlt | moodaepo: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]te_Administration in case you're still curious (and bored) |
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21:11 | sekjal | DDoS attack against our hosting provider |
21:16 | owen left #koha | |
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21:27 | chris | ouch |
21:32 | sekjal | okay, git.k-c.org is back |
21:33 | gmcharlt | cool |
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21:49 | ibeardsle | chris: john just dropped of the laptop he borrowed .. we seem to have kicked an interest off there |
21:50 | chris | awesome! |
21:52 | ibeardsle | he's wandering down to borders to find a perl book |
21:53 | chris | ahh we shoulda pointed him at grant |
21:53 | http://wpm.mykoha.co.nz/ | |
21:53 | http://wpm.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bi[…]-search.pl?q=perl <-- we got lots | |
21:55 | ibeardsle | he knows about the perlmongers / perl usergroup |
21:56 | chris | cool |
21:56 | * cait | sighs |
21:56 | ibeardsle | but feel free to flick him an email (if appropriate) about that link |
21:56 | chris | yup |
21:57 | ibeardsle | cait: sigh? |
21:57 | ronald joined #koha | |
21:57 | cait | hard to explain |
21:58 | :) | |
21:59 | * cait | wants to learn perl too but has not been very successful teaching herself |
21:59 | ibeardsle | ahh |
21:59 | ebegin left #koha | |
22:01 | cait | ok, bed time :) |
22:01 | bye all | |
22:01 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
22:01 | jcamins_a | Dinner/train time. |
22:02 | schuster | drive home time what a day! |
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22:27 | Michael | Anyone out there? |
22:29 | sekjal | hi, Michael |
22:30 | Michael | hi |
22:31 | I've been sifting through Koha listserv archives trying to find something that relates to... | |
22:31 | grabbing data from Koha and displaying it on other websites. | |
22:32 | For example, I'd love to have an auto-generated list of "New Books" on a couple of different websites | |
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22:33 | Michael | And I thought it'd be best if I could somehow go into Koha and grab all records that meet certain criteria (recently cataloged, recent publication date, etc) |
22:33 | and display a list of those titles on a webpage somewhere | |
22:33 | I'm just wondering if this is even possible | |
22:35 | wizzyrea | new books is a tough one |
22:35 | well, it is for us anyway | |
22:35 | sekjal | Michael: Koha has customizable RSS output that could be helpful here |
22:35 | wizzyrea | because you probably want "new books" that are actually by pubdate |
22:35 | and not acqdate | |
22:35 | chris | also checkout |
22:36 | https://github.com/alenkovich/[…]ly-acquired-books | |
22:36 | which i have a pull request open, with some changes | |
22:36 | wizzyrea | oh that's a very new thing isn't it |
22:36 | nice | |
22:37 | chris | https://github.com/alenkovich/[…]ired-books/pull/1 |
22:37 | which may or may not be useful | |
22:37 | Michael | thanks, i shall investigate |
22:37 | wizzyrea | makes you use the acq module tho |
22:37 | Michael | We're using version 3.01.00.145 Will this present a problem? |
22:38 | sekjal | Michael: that's pretty close to the current codebase (just before the release of 3.2), so it shouldn't be TOO bad |
22:40 | chris | wizzyrea: wouldnt be hard to change to just use pubdate |
22:43 | * wizzyrea | has a catalog full of bad data, gets shakespeare on pubdate RSS feeds. |
22:43 | wizzyrea | (no, they weren't reissues published this year) |
22:43 | chris | well yeah gigo :) |
22:43 | wizzyrea | just sayin, ymmv |
22:43 | ;) | |
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22:44 | wizzyrea | so in that sense, using the acq module is smart, because it's got actual catalog dates |
22:44 | * wizzyrea | mutters about MARC |
22:44 | mutters about humans | |
22:45 | * gmcharlt | mutters at both, considering that the latter is responsible for the former |
22:45 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
22:49 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
22:49 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
22:50 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
22:50 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.3�C (4:51 PM CST on January 24, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). |
22:50 | wizzyrea | oh hey, warm |
22:50 | :P | |
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22:52 | chris | heh |
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22:58 | Michael | regarding https://github.com/alenkovich/[…]ly-acquired-books , one of my team's smartypants people says... |
22:58 | "This should work. It generates a web page from the database and places that page in the Koha interface. I'm not sure where we are supposed to put these files though..I'm guessing it needs to be uploaded to some directory (not sure where) on the server that Koha resides on and... | |
22:59 | ...the config file needs to have the access information (username and password) to the koha database." | |
22:59 | chris | if you use my fork (until its pulled) |
22:59 | it uses C4::Context | |
23:00 | so you dont have to have it defined again in another file | |
23:00 | Michael | you're referring to koha-recent.pl |
23:00 | ? | |
23:01 | chris | https://github.com/ranginui/Ko[…]ly-acquired-books |
23:01 | its designed to run as a cron job, and then you have a static html file you can scp to whereever you want | |
23:02 | i changed it to use C4::Context to get a database handle | |
23:02 | Michael | okay |
23:03 | * gmcharlt | prefers more integrated approaches, but I've no problem sticking that on Michael's Koha DB if wanted |
23:03 | chris | gmcharlt: thats step 1 in integrating it |
23:03 | step 2 is an option, to write a file, or print to stdout | |
23:03 | step 3, put it in misc/ | |
23:03 | in the koha repo | |
23:04 | gmcharlt | still a fair amount of duplication |
23:04 | chris | somewhere in there change it to respect the syspref for where you want book covers from |
23:04 | gmcharlt | especially if you consider things like the cover source |
23:04 | chris | yep |
23:04 | gmcharlt | something that did something like (say) seeded a public list with the items |
23:04 | chris | the idea alen had, and this makes sense |
23:05 | wsa that that would run on some server that knows nothing about koha | |
23:05 | but can connect to the db | |
23:05 | gmcharlt | or pushed a list of bib IDs generated somehow (e.g., via the SQL query) through Koha's bib result display and formatting |
23:07 | chris | its only me that changed it to bind it more tightly to koha |
23:08 | Michael | I'd like to give it a try if you think it'll work, Galen. |
23:08 | gmcharlt | Michael: sure (you can safely ignore the friendly argument chris and I are having :) ) |
23:08 | Michael | Just let me know what *I* need to do on my end of things |
23:09 | gmcharlt | chris: considering that the original includes SQL queries that rely on a knowledge of Koha's schema, it was already pretty tightly integrated |
23:09 | Michael | That was a friendly argument, was it? I was waiting for the expletives to fly... ;) |
23:10 | gmcharlt | if one were writing an ILS-dependent new books list, I'd expect it to use RSS feeds, or OAI-PMH, or something |
23:10 | chris | gmcharlt: true, but no koha modules |
23:10 | for someones first attempt, i didnt think it was that bad | |
23:12 | gmcharlt | that's fine, but it would have a ways to go to being a first-class feature in Koha itself |
23:12 | chris | yup |
23:13 | i still want one where you can easily pick the ones you want to display | |
23:13 | gmcharlt | what I think it really points at, actually, it that's it's time to redo contribs |
23:13 | chris | yup |
23:14 | i think we were waiting on a volunteer to host | |
23:14 | my linode is chokka block | |
23:14 | gmcharlt | I don't know about you, but I feel no particular attachment to PEM |
23:14 | chris | nope |
23:14 | gmcharlt | so it could be a complete fresh start |
23:15 | chris | yup |
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23:32 | rhcl | PEM = Peabody Essex Museum? Polymer Electrolyte Membrane? Power Equipment Maintenance? |
23:34 | chris | https://gna.org/projects/pem/ |
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