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| 00:04 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 00:04 | Brooke | Kia ora |
| 00:21 | chris | http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/ yay fixed one failing test 11 to go |
| 00:21 | Brooke | :) |
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| 01:06 | BobB | Is chris about? |
| 01:07 | chris | yup |
| 01:07 | check your email | |
| 01:08 | BobB | OK. If I can do that, that's great. |
| 01:08 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 01:10 | BobB | But I'm having trouble with WRMS. Request 76568 appears in my email but I cannot access it in your system. Shows 'Request 76568 is unavailable - do you have the number right?' |
| 01:10 | chris | hmm lemme check something |
| 01:11 | try a refresh now | |
| 01:11 | BobB | Got it. Thanks. Will load the file. Cheers. |
| 01:12 | chris | cool |
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| 01:19 | chris | got it |
| 01:20 | will work on it now | |
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| 02:01 | chris | BobB: you still about? |
| 02:02 | im going to tune up my search string | |
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| 02:24 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 02:26 | druthb | kia ora, Brooke. :) |
| 02:27 | Brooke | :) |
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| 02:32 | wasabi | xpaths in jquery, has anyone done this often? |
| 02:33 | im trying to hide a block of searching options in the OPAC adv-search page | |
| 02:35 | hmm, i think the xhtml on that page might be non-valid? causing the xpath to fail | |
| 02:35 | or i'm just doing it wrong… ;) | |
| 02:37 | ahh, http://dev-tips.com/featured/j[…]g-xpath-selectors | |
| 02:37 | "Important Update! | |
| 02:37 | As of jQuery 1.3, the attribute selector '@' has been deprectaed and will break in the latest version of jQuery." | |
| 02:38 | … lots of examples with the old syntax :/ | |
| 02:45 | Brooke | eh oh, New England's down by 10. |
| 02:49 | 3 now. | |
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| 02:57 | * Brooke | waves at kevind |
| 02:57 | robin | Brooke: the ashes? |
| 02:57 | ibot | the ashes are off to a good start(!) time to sleep instead I think |
| 02:57 | robin | Oh, that's Old ENgland. |
| 02:57 | Brooke | heheheh |
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| 02:58 | * Brooke | is just glad she's not a Duhrector anymore. |
| 02:58 | Brooke | New England / Packers games used to be brutal. |
| 02:58 | kevinD joined #koha | |
| 02:58 | Brooke | Me Board sided with the Packers |
| 02:59 | and the little mister is a die hard Patriots fan. | |
| 02:59 | (Though I can claim to be a fan, because I went the The Game. The one where The Thermometer ceased to register.) | |
| 03:00 | kevinD | Hi Brooke |
| 03:10 | druthb | evenin', kevinD. |
| 03:10 | BobB | Chris, I'm back. Have picked up the ticket and will look at the files now. |
| 03:11 | Brooke | and the Patriots pull ahead. |
| 03:12 | kevinD | Hi |
| 03:13 | Do you usually install kohl locally | |
| 03:13 | Koha | |
| 03:13 | This iPad changes words | |
| 03:14 | Brooke | you could do either. |
| 03:14 | kevinD | Which is easier, |
| 03:14 | druthb | Brooke++ # quick answer. |
| 03:14 | Brooke | mmmm |
| 03:14 | druthb | It's fundamentally going to be the same install whether you install it locally or on some server somewhere. |
| 03:14 | Brooke | by Zipf's principle, support. |
| 03:15 | so remote generally. | |
| 03:15 | kevinD | Installing on a host, is it hard to find a host with the right setup |
| 03:15 | druthb | A local install is still a server, only not-far-away. |
| 03:15 | Brooke | by I want my mits on mah data, local. |
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| 03:15 | kevinD | I have done Drupal both ways |
| 03:15 | druthb | easy to find hosting. Any VPS host that can run Debian Lenny should be able. |
| 03:15 | * druthb | waves to brendan_l |
| 03:15 | Brooke | erm some folks have had trouble with random ISPs, but other folks have been able to get their ISPs to give em command line access |
| 03:16 | so the short answer is if you do that be sure you have command line access when ye need it | |
| 03:16 | kevinD | So that must make it a bit easier |
| 03:16 | What about ubuntu | |
| 03:16 | Is that just for locall | |
| 03:16 | druthb | Very do-able on Ubuntu. Lots do it, both ways. |
| 03:16 | * Brooke | nods at druthb |
| 03:16 | Brooke | also Ubuntu is so simple, a Brooke can install it. |
| 03:17 | brendan_l left #koha | |
| 03:17 | chris | BobB: cool |
| 03:17 | kevinD | I took a course in UNIX but far from fluent |
| 03:17 | Brooke | ja I hear ya |
| 03:17 | kevinD | You need Linux knowledge true |
| 03:17 | * Brooke | is just a documentation ratbag. |
| 03:17 | Brooke | it's your choice. |
| 03:18 | you can have a minion that knows Linux | |
| 03:18 | druthb | Ubuntu-as-a-server is pretty much Debian-ish. Lots of the same code, same behavior. |
| 03:18 | Brooke | and a Librarian |
| 03:18 | or you can have one super duper person that does both. | |
| 03:18 | or a cast of thousands. | |
| 03:18 | robin | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc0f8c150a8b402a1 <-- I don't think that ever happened, at least, it's still there :) |
| 03:18 | kevinD | I am volunteering to set up for a Museum, I think I am, not sure as of yet, it's a Quilt museum |
| 03:18 | Brooke | mm hmm |
| 03:19 | kevinD | Is that taking the place of LAMP |
| 03:19 | Brooke | em no |
| 03:19 | druthb | no, Koha runs on a LAMP stack. |
| 03:19 | kevinD | or MAMP |
| 03:19 | Brooke | one is people |
| 03:19 | kevinD | I am on Mac usually |
| 03:19 | Brooke | one is software |
| 03:20 | * Brooke | is also on a Mac. |
| 03:20 | kevinD | Choice of 2 OS |
| 03:20 | druthb | I haven't seen anyone running it locally under MacOS, but I suppose 'twould be easier than on Windows. |
| 03:20 | kevinD | Ubuntu and De.... |
| 03:20 | chris | or suse, or centos, or gentoo |
| 03:20 | kevinD | Ubuntu is a operating system |
| 03:21 | druthb | Those are the commonest choices; other Linux variants have been used, including Red Hat derivatives. |
| 03:21 | * Brooke | makes the blech face. |
| 03:21 | chris | ubuntu is a distribution |
| 03:21 | * druthb | waves at chris |
| 03:21 | chris | gnu/linux is an operating system |
| 03:21 | Brooke | it's a sexy distro. |
| 03:21 | druthb | @karma Brooke |
| 03:21 | munin | druthb: Karma for "Brooke" has been increased 6 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 5. |
| 03:22 | kevinD | What is the easiest setup |
| 03:22 | chris | debian squeeze |
| 03:22 | and use the packages at debian.koha-community.org | |
| 03:23 | kevinD | Could I find some pretty detailed instructions do you think |
| 03:23 | druthb | ooh, yah. If you're using packages, it's a one-liner, pretty-much. |
| 03:23 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 03:23 | kevinD | Thanks |
| 03:23 | druthb | chris++ |
| 03:24 | chris | everyone should use packages at all times :-) |
| 03:24 | specially since there is a nice script to build them from a git repo | |
| 03:24 | * chris | no longer deploys koha any other way |
| 03:24 | Brooke | is it thus quilt museum? |
| 03:24 | http://www.vaquiltmuseum.org/museum.html | |
| 03:24 | kevinD | Yes |
| 03:25 | Are you in Massachusetts or just looking through archives | |
| 03:25 | Brooke | oh no, not any more. |
| 03:25 | howdy neighbour. | |
| 03:25 | kevinD | Cold |
| 03:25 | Brooke | <--- 22314 |
| 03:25 | kevinD | Cold weather |
| 03:26 | druthb | <--- 20852, a little farther away than Brooke. |
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| 03:26 | Brooke | ^ dirty Northerner. |
| 03:26 | kevinD | I am in Dracut, Massachusetts |
| 03:27 | Brooke | but you're volunteering for VA? |
| 03:27 | kevinD | No Lowell, Ma |
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| 03:27 | Brooke | so link yer museum since I was way off base :P |
| 03:28 | yooooouuuu | |
| 03:28 | kevinD | I don't even know the site, just was contacted by a non profit |
| 03:28 | Brooke | since you're up north |
| 03:28 | want to phone Nora at MassCat | |
| 03:28 | kevinD | I did work for before, |
| 03:28 | Brooke | and be all like |
| 03:28 | lemme join. | |
| 03:28 | kevinD | Jericho Road Project out of Concord Ma |
| 03:29 | I have been doing Drupal | |
| 03:29 | Brooke | MassCat membership used to be super cheap before the Commonwealth *cough* took certain decisions. |
| 03:29 | http://masscat.org/ | |
| 03:29 | go go | |
| 03:29 | look look. | |
| 03:29 | anything else is reinventing the wheel. | |
| 03:30 | * druthb | is gonna stumble away to bed. Have a good evening. |
| 03:30 | kevinD | Just put up this site a few days ago http://www.bluesguitarlessons.info |
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| 03:30 | kevinD | That is for me, it's not so great as far as design, I guess it's a content driven site |
| 03:31 | That's a good way of putting it I guess | |
| 03:31 | It sounds like a koha install is a lot more difficult than Drupal | |
| 03:32 | chris | apt-get install koha |
| 03:32 | done | |
| 03:32 | so no, not really | |
| 03:33 | kevinD | I am going in after another person who I think gave up |
| 03:33 | I want to make sure I can do it | |
| 03:34 | chris | configuring it is a lot harder, and you do need to understand libraries to make the right choices |
| 03:34 | kevinD | You mean the structure of a library system |
| 03:34 | chris | not really |
| 03:35 | more how a library works, (how it actually works, not just how a person who has visited a library thinks it works ) | |
| 03:35 | kevinD | When you say library do you mean a physical or database |
| 03:35 | Ok I see | |
| 03:35 | I would be covered there having help from a person who works there | |
| 03:36 | At the library | |
| 03:36 | chris | once you find out where there is |
| 03:36 | robin | knowing about /var/lib is useful. but not nearly as much :) |
| 03:36 | Brooke | ya |
| 03:36 | if "there" is a Library in Massachusetts | |
| 03:36 | ring Nora. | |
| 03:36 | kevinD | Who is Nora |
| 03:36 | chris | if it is in MA, definitely do what brooke said, and get them to join MassCat |
| 03:36 | Brooke | it'll ensure you play nicely with the other kids. |
| 03:37 | kevinD | Thanks |
| 03:37 | Brooke | http://masscat.org/ |
| 03:37 | Nora Blake is the Director. | |
| 03:37 | she doesn't bite. | |
| 03:37 | kevinD | Is that catalogue |
| 03:37 | Cat | |
| 03:38 | Brooke | http://masscat.kohalibrary.com[…]kcs_submit=Search |
| 03:38 | there, that's what it looks like when you type summat in the search box. | |
| 03:39 | kevinD | When you, Robin say var/lib are you talking about a database |
| 03:40 | I have seen that interface before using Ebsco | |
| 03:40 | robin | kevinD: pretend I never mentioned it, it'll be easier :) |
| 03:40 | kevinD | Thanks |
| 03:41 | I am on a iPad using Colloquies, what a great interface someone designed | |
| 03:42 | I guess if I contact Nora She might be able to point me in the right direction | |
| 03:42 | I hope | |
| 03:43 | Well thanks so much for your help everyone, much appreciated | |
| 03:45 | Brooke | yeah |
| 03:45 | in theory you needs be a MARLS member | |
| 03:45 | but that stuff is uh | |
| 03:45 | >.> | |
| 03:45 | <.< | |
| 03:45 | a bit muddled at the moment. | |
| 03:46 | She should at very least be able to point you to the right hoops | |
| 03:46 | she's a busy lady | |
| 03:49 | eter | i noticed a default admin user in koha, it has staff as category but it cant login to staff interface..therefore my question is...does setting the category give any rights/permissions? |
| 03:49 | chris | eter: none at all |
| 03:49 | eter | ok i see |
| 03:50 | chris | if you edit the permissions, that does it, its just a way of grouping people for things like expiry dates, circulation rules etc |
| 03:50 | eter | i does mean therefore that if i pull the users from ldap it doesnt matter what ldap group they were in they wouldnt get any advanced permissions |
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| 04:00 | Brooke | y'all better shoo before the six o clock swirl ;) |
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| 04:01 | chris | eter: thats right |
| 04:01 | eter | ok |
| 04:01 | * chris | heads off to catch his bus |
| 04:02 | * Brooke | goes back to The Game. |
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| 04:55 | Oak | \o |
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| 05:34 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:21 | hdl | hi all |
| 06:21 | Amit | hi hdl,cait |
| 06:21 | hdl | chris : fwiw, about normalization, we worked on that... and NFC is the actual standard for UTF8 display. |
| 06:22 | chris: So every data sent to display should be NFC Normalize. | |
| 06:22 | chris | i think brooke and cait were talking about that, not me |
| 06:22 | hdl | I saw you spole with cait about that. |
| 06:22 | chris | nope that was brooke |
| 06:23 | i was talking with cait about a bug in the template toolkit templates that was breaking utf8 | |
| 06:23 | its not to do with normalisation tho | |
| 06:23 | that was a side discussion | |
| 06:24 | hdl | I donot think it is Template Toolkit, but maybe data sent from koha to TT. |
| 06:24 | But I may be wrong. | |
| 06:25 | chris | yeah |
| 06:25 | its not data sent from koha | |
| 06:25 | you change to master its fine | |
| 06:25 | change to the tt branch its not | |
| 06:25 | ibot | chris: that doesn't look right |
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| 06:25 | chris | change back, its fine again |
| 06:25 | cait | hdl: the normalization issue was something we saw in loc catalog, not with koha |
| 06:25 | ibot | chris: that doesn't look right |
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| 06:26 | cait | hdl: we normalize all our data - I think it's not good if you have a mix in your database |
| 06:27 | hdl | a mix of NFC NFD NFKC ? |
| 06:27 | cait | I always confuse the abbreviations |
| 06:27 | hdl | Or a mix of true UTF8 and others ? |
| 06:27 | cait | but we normalize the 2 character umlauts into one character... if that makes sense |
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| 06:27 | hdl | NFC then. |
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| 06:27 | cait | because when you enter a patron or when you change a record manually and use a German keyboard, that's what you get |
| 06:28 | hdl | cait: we added normalization to AddBiblio and to display... |
| 06:28 | because of that. | |
| 06:28 | (using NFC) | |
| 06:29 | cait | what about search? |
| 06:29 | hdl | i think it was normalized too. |
| 06:31 | Corean characters are quite a good test ;) | |
| 06:31 | cait | I loaded corean into koha - it displays nicey |
| 06:31 | but normalized before loading | |
| 06:33 | hdl | normalized_data++ |
| 06:35 | cait | I am not sure normalizing for display is the right way to go - I think having only one form in the database is the better way |
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| 06:36 | hdl | cait: I am with you... But since ppl sometimes have un normalized forms... |
| 06:37 | they also deserve some help. | |
| 06:37 | Maybe a clear advice... Please do ModBiblio on all your data... | |
| 06:37 | would be enough though | |
| 06:39 | going at work soon. | |
| 06:40 | cait | yeah me too, having breakfast right now :) |
| 06:42 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:42 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.6�C (7:45 AM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:44 | chris | got a sec cait? |
| 06:44 | cait | yep |
| 06:44 | chris | i have discovered something weird |
| 06:44 | cait | another 30 minutes |
| 06:44 | do I need my koha? | |
| 06:45 | chris | http://librarian.koha.workbuff[…]admin/branches.pl |
| 06:45 | look at that | |
| 06:45 | vs | |
| 06:45 | http://librarian.koha.workbuff[…]dmin/itemtypes.pl | |
| 06:45 | it works for branches, not for itemtypes | |
| 06:46 | cait | it works for one page but not the other now? |
| 06:47 | chris | seems to for me |
| 06:47 | does that happen for you? | |
| 06:47 | (template_test branch) | |
| 06:47 | cait | when I tested both were broken |
| 06:47 | give me a sec, have to start the other laptop | |
| 06:48 | I think I noted problems with both pages on the wiki | |
| 06:48 | rebase? | |
| 06:49 | chris | hasnt changed in a few days |
| 06:49 | cait | hm that's really weird then |
| 06:49 | chris | yeah |
| 06:49 | cait | because I tested branches yesterday while we were chatting |
| 06:49 | and I still saw the problem there | |
| 06:50 | x | |
| 06:50 | which branch are you on? | |
| 06:51 | I am on template test | |
| 06:52 | I added a new item type and a new library, description für both äüö | |
| 06:52 | both displays are broken in list display and edit | |
| 06:53 | hm only the list display is working on your installaton, when you click on edit, it's broken again | |
| 06:54 | chris | interesting |
| 06:54 | ok, ill keep poking | |
| 06:54 | thanks | |
| 06:54 | cait | I ll be around until 8:30 |
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| 06:59 | chris | woot fixed |
| 06:59 | if you have 1 sec | |
| 06:59 | line 110 of C4/Templates.pm | |
| 07:00 | the $template->process one | |
| 07:00 | can you add this line before that | |
| 07:00 | binmode( STDOUT, ":utf8" ); | |
| 07:00 | cait | mom |
| 07:01 | hm | |
| 07:01 | my line 110 is different | |
| 07:02 | chris | what is you line 110 |
| 07:02 | ? | |
| 07:02 | cait | mom |
| 07:02 | chris | ahh sorry line 101 |
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| 07:03 | cait1 | t |
| 07:03 | ok, now I can copy and paste | |
| 07:03 | ok, so after my $data;? | |
| 07:04 | can you paste me the code you want me to add again? | |
| 07:05 | chris | yes after my $data and before the process line add |
| 07:05 | binmode( STDOUT, ":utf8" ); | |
| 07:06 | cait1 | done |
| 07:06 | chris | then refresh and hopefully its all showing right no |
| 07:06 | w | |
| 07:06 | cait1 | edit looks good |
| 07:06 | chris | cool |
| 07:07 | cait1 | list looks good |
| 07:07 | yay :) | |
| 07:07 | chris | cool |
| 07:07 | * chris | sends chrish a patch |
| 07:08 | cait1 | chris: can you open a record from the result list? |
| 07:08 | I have links without the biblionumber | |
| 07:08 | biblionumber= | |
| 07:09 | chris | yeah i see that too |
| 07:09 | cait1 | my normal xslt view is still broken |
| 07:11 | chris | and if you change to master it works? |
| 07:11 | and broken in what way, utf8 again? | |
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| 07:14 | chris | http://librarian.koha.workbuff[…]/search.pl?q=fish fixed the search results |
| 07:16 | cait1 | sorry |
| 07:16 | had to get ready | |
| 07:16 | checking no | |
| 07:16 | now | |
| 07:17 | changing to master it's fixed | |
| 07:17 | I have a reord with äüö at the beginning of the title | |
| 07:17 | chris: your facets are broken, search result list looks good | |
| 07:18 | chris | yup facets will be the same issue |
| 07:18 | but now i know what is causing it | |
| 07:18 | cait1 | different problem I think - you don't have facets at all, only the headings |
| 07:18 | chris | naw same problem as the biblionumbers |
| 07:19 | includes | |
| 07:19 | loops in template toolkit work different to html::template::pro | |
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| 07:19 | chris | scope is important |
| 07:19 | cait1 | ah |
| 07:19 | ok | |
| 07:20 | Ithought you were talking about the utf-8 problem :) | |
| 07:20 | chris | so everything except xslt is ok for utf8 now eh? |
| 07:20 | cait1 | I see no problems at the moment |
| 07:21 | chris: normal view is ok now | |
| 07:21 | chris | cool |
| 07:22 | cait1 | ignore me... I was on master |
| 07:22 | no, it's still broken | |
| 07:22 | chris | normal view or xslt? |
| 07:22 | cait1 | xslt |
| 07:22 | normal view is ok | |
| 07:22 | chris | right |
| 07:22 | so just have to figure out what is wrong with it | |
| 07:22 | cait1 | not sure |
| 07:22 | ibot | not sure are you using git? |
| 07:22 | chris | the xslt stuff is weird |
| 07:23 | cait1 | I like the xslt stuff :) |
| 07:23 | chris | i like the idea, dont really like how we implemented it |
| 07:23 | now we have tt, for 3.6 we can do it in a much nicer way | |
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| 07:24 | cait1 | :) |
| 07:24 | yeah, i was not surprised the patron's display does not really work with tt | |
| 07:25 | it's a bit messy | |
| 07:25 | what I wanted to say is, that we have some things that are not implemented ideal :) | |
| 07:26 | chris++ | |
| 07:26 | chrisdoth++ | |
| 07:26 | ok, have to go to work now - see you later | |
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| 07:46 | Oak | \o |
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| 08:12 | magnus | kia ora, #koha! |
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| 08:19 | hdl | hi magnus |
| 08:19 | magnus | bonjour hdl |
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| 08:40 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:41 | magnus | hiya kf |
| 08:41 | kf | hi magnus |
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| 10:08 | kf | hmpf |
| 10:09 | I have a difference between the number of inactive users I selected via sql and the report in horizon | |
| 10:09 | ah koha not horizon | |
| 10:09 | confusing my ils here | |
| 10:09 | magnus | hehe? |
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| 10:14 | kf | yeah, but why the difference? |
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| 10:45 | kf | hmpf, my statistics for checkouts and returns are different too :( |
| 11:34 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 11:34 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (12:20 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:34 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:34 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.6�C (12:35 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:02 | druthb | g'mornin, #koha |
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| 12:35 | magnus | g'day druthb |
| 12:35 | druthb | hi, magnus! :) |
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| 12:40 | magnus | hiya jwagner |
| 12:44 | jwagner | Hi magnus |
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| 13:07 | * druthb | waves to jwagner |
| 13:07 | hands a cookie to owen. | |
| 13:08 | * owen | really ought to only eat virtual cookies for a while... Christmas food consumption has begun... |
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| 13:10 | * jwagner | wants a cookie too! |
| 13:13 | kf | owen: a virtual cookie diet... hm |
| 13:14 | * owen | imagines traveling from channel to channel, begging for virtual cookies |
| 13:14 | kf | hehe |
| 13:14 | jwagner | Not just cookies -- while we're at it, beg for all sorts of goodies! |
| 13:21 | owen | As long as it's virtual, we can drink at work, right? |
| 13:21 | jwagner | That's an even better idea.... |
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| 13:35 | owen | gmcharlt around? |
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| 13:37 | gmcharlt | owen: yep |
| 13:37 | owen | chris pointed out that the translation test script was giving warnings regarding my recent opac comments view |
| 13:37 | "Possible SGML "closed start tag" notation" | |
| 13:38 | Does that error sound familiar to you? | |
| 13:38 | It happens here: | |
| 13:38 | <![CDATA[ | |
| 13:38 | <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="OPACAmazonEnabled" -->... | |
| 13:39 | gmcharlt | if it's in a CDATA, it's like just a deficiency in the translation script |
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| 13:39 | gmcharlt | but checkout for things like an invalid attribute in the tmpl elements |
| 13:39 | e.g., TMPL_IF ANME="foo" | |
| 13:42 | owen | I remember seeing a similar error from opac-opensearch.tmpl, but I thought someone had addressed the deficiency |
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| 13:49 | owen | gmcharlt: Does prove "xt/author/valid-templates.t" require any arguments? |
| 13:49 | gmcharlt | owen: no |
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| 13:49 | gmcharlt | owen: ef5279b47 |
| 13:49 | * owen | was worried by the output saying "Files=1" |
| 13:50 | hdl | owen: it is likely that translation script is expecting TMPL after <! |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | hdl: I think you're on to something; the translator script expects CDATA section only withing script elements and the like |
| 13:51 | owen: Files=1 == just one test script file, I believe | |
| 13:51 | owen | gmcharlt: ef5279b47 ? |
| 13:51 | gmcharlt | owen: as in, look at that commit |
| 13:51 | git show ef5279b47 | |
| 13:52 | owen | Ah, an explicit exception? |
| 13:52 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 13:52 | not the most elegant of solutions, natch | |
| 13:56 | hdl | mmm must have failed my sign-off patch |
| 13:56 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5143' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6dd9335710b4e702> / Bug 5143: Help file revisions per Owen Leonard <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57037dd5e14e0cfd8> |
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| 13:56 | Oak | \o |
| 13:59 | hudsonbot | Starting build 235 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 13 days ago) |
| 14:02 | druthb | hi, Oak! o/ |
| 14:09 | kf | why is chris awakeß |
| 14:09 | ? | |
| 14:10 | owen | Shhh... Don't make his computer beep at him... |
| 14:17 | Oak | hiya druthb :) |
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| 14:30 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #235: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/235/ |
| 14:30 | Liz Rea: Bug 5143: Help file revisions per Owen Leonard | |
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| 14:32 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:33 | magnus | hiya jcamins |
| 14:40 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
| 14:42 | Nate | mornin jcamins |
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| 14:43 | magnus | hi Nate |
| 14:44 | Nate | hiya magnus |
| 14:44 | how goes it? | |
| 14:45 | magnus | Nate: fine, thanks - working on non-koha stuff to make ends meet. and you? |
| 14:45 | Nate | great! busy as a bee |
| 14:45 | and freezing! | |
| 14:46 | @wunder 06516 | |
| 14:46 | munin | Nate: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is -1.9�C (9:39 AM EST on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:46 | magnus | hah |
| 14:46 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 14:46 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0�C (3:20 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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| 14:46 | magnus | muhaha |
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| 14:48 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 14:48 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -1.4�C (9:50 AM EST on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:48 | druthb | Finally! it's colder in Norway than in DC. |
| 14:49 | magnus | woohoo! ;-) |
| 14:49 | wunder Karasjok, norway | |
| 14:50 | @wunder Karasjok, norway | |
| 14:50 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -16.0�C (3:20 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -28.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:50 | magnus | @wunder bidjovagge, norway |
| 14:51 | munin | magnus: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 14:51 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:51 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.8�C (3:50 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:51 | kf | snow is thawing :) |
| 14:51 | magnus | according to yr.no it's supposed to be -37.7 °C in Karasjok now... |
| 14:52 | @wunder kautokeino, norway | |
| 14:52 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -28.0�C (1:00 PM CET on December 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -31.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:52 | magnus | cold enough for ya, druthb? ;-) |
| 14:52 | kf: that's hot! | |
| 14:52 | * druthb | shivers, and pulls the cat under the blankets with her. |
| 14:54 | owen | Anyone know why GetShelves returns lists in order by category? |
| 14:57 | kf | because someone thought it was a good idea? |
| 14:58 | owen | :P |
| 14:58 | * owen | humbly suggests it order lists by list name |
| 14:59 | * kf | got her first mysql log today because she disagrees with the numbers she gets from built in reports |
| 14:59 | kf | owen: sounds like a better idea :) |
| 15:00 | magnus: I think it's nice :) | |
| 15:00 | seriously: WHERE 1=1 ? | |
| 15:06 | owen | "WHERE 1=1" is useful if you're building your sql programatically and have an unknown number of "AND" clauses to follow |
| 15:07 | kf | okok |
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| 15:09 | kf | I still don't see why I get different results |
| 15:09 | *sighs* | |
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| 15:12 | kf | hmhmhm |
| 15:12 | the inactive borrowers report | |
| 15:12 | only works with old_issues - that does not seem right to me | |
| 15:13 | if I have a new patron with checked out books... he will show up as inactive | |
| 15:14 | jwagner | kf, if you have a user with checked out books, isn't that user active, not inactive? |
| 15:15 | kf | yep |
| 15:15 | owen | That's her point |
| 15:15 | kf | but the reprot gets the active users and makes a not in |
| 15:15 | so it doesn't select this borrowernumber as active borrowrnumber at first - and the not in will throw it out as non active | |
| 15:17 | * jwagner | is lost |
| 15:17 | pastebot | "kf" at 193.197.29.135 pasted "inactive borrowers" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/115 |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | kf: I think you're on the right track, but if the patron has *any* rows in the issues table, regardless of timestamp, they are potentially active |
| 15:19 | kf | gmcharlt: right, my thoguht too |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | at the very least, if the loans are so old that the library will write them off as non-collectible |
| 15:19 | doing that should be a distinct step in the workflow | |
| 15:19 | kf | gmcharlt: but I think that's not the way it works |
| 15:20 | it does: get all borrowers minus those found as active in old_issues | |
| 15:20 | which misses the borrowernumbers in issues | |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | right - I was responding to your paste |
| 15:20 | kf | ok, sorry, this statistics gives me a headache |
| 15:20 | can you explain? | |
| 15:21 | is koha right? or wrong but it should be different from my suggested statement? | |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | the current report is wrong |
| 15:21 | your suggested change is OK as far as it goes | |
| 15:21 | kf | I tried reading the perl script first and ended up recording my report in the log, because it's quite difficult to read |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | but in the case where the patron still has items checked out |
| 15:21 | kf | ah |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | even if they're old loans |
| 15:22 | that patron may well be inactive according to the library's definition | |
| 15:22 | but even if the patron is to be deleted as inactive | |
| 15:22 | kf | so we could do get all borrower numbers from issues, get new enough from old_issues make distinct and compare to all? |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | any current loans still have to be dealt with first |
| 15:23 | kf | gmcharlt: I think the question now is if you define a patron as active if he owes the library |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | exactly |
| 15:23 | kf | It hink in our statistics it is always: has checked out or checked in something in the last x days/months/years |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | and that depends on the library's policy, ultimatel |
| 15:24 | now, I'm thinking in terms of what do do with inactive patrons (e.g,. purge them) | |
| 15:24 | it sounds like you're thinking of a statistical report | |
| 15:24 | kf | yep |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | so I think we're looking at it from two different angle |
| 15:24 | s | |
| 15:24 | kf | the library asked me, we used the reports module... but I was suspicious of the results and tried to check them with sql today.. should better not have done that |
| 15:24 | the only number me and the reports module agree is the total number of all patrons | |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt: I think both are right in a way - but you will perhaps want to track those with long outstanding checkouts and fees in a different report | |
| 15:25 | I would not define them as active | |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | right, nor would I |
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| 15:26 | gmcharlt | but if one is generating such a report prior to purging, handling those existing loans would need to be done |
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| 15:26 | kf | yeah, deleting patrons should always check checkouts, fines etc. |
| 15:26 | holds | |
| 15:31 | filing a bug report | |
| 15:33 | where is this quote about the ants? | |
| 15:33 | @quote random | |
| 15:33 | munin | kf: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) |
| 15:34 | kf | @quote search ant |
| 15:34 | munin | kf: 8 found: #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't...", #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian...", #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate...", #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say...", #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a...", #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over...", #77: "*chris_n wants to know if nengard figures out...", and (1 more message) |
| 15:35 | kf | @quote 5 |
| 15:35 | munin | kf: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "5" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
| 15:35 | kf | @quote get 5 |
| 15:35 | munin | kf: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) |
| 15:35 | kf | hah |
| 15:36 | druthb | ooo... |
| 15:36 | @quote search bacon | |
| 15:36 | munin | druthb: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" |
| 15:36 | druthb | lol |
| 15:36 | wizzyrea | lolwut |
| 15:36 | * druthb | tries something sneaky |
| 15:36 | druthb | @quote search wizzyrea |
| 15:36 | munin | druthb: 14 found: #105: "* wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not*...", #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon...", #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!", #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me", #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each...", #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the...", #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's", #52: "<wizzyrea> (1 more message) |
| 15:36 | wizzyrea | how is it even possible that I said "holy flaming bacon batman |
| 15:37 | druthb | how do you get the more bit? |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | @quote get 105 |
| 15:37 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #105: "* wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not* have to add good morning to all of your patches." (added by gmcharlt at 04:11 PM, November 24, 2010) |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt | druthb: @more |
| 15:38 | druthb | @more |
| 15:38 | munin | druthb: Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers", #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical...", #65: "<wizzyrea_> koha doesn't make you pizza... it...", #70: "<wizzyrea> owen: I have a jquery... um... query...", #83: "<wizzyrea> you can watch the sunrise around the...", #87: "<wizzyrea> my standard reply for that is you...", and #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to..." |
| 15:38 | druthb | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:39 | @quote get 17 | |
| 15:39 | munin | druthb: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009) |
| 15:39 | kf | hehe |
| 15:39 | * wizzyrea | shakes her head |
| 15:39 | * kf | gives wizzyrea some fudge |
| 15:40 | druthb | @quote search kf |
| 15:40 | munin | druthb: 3 found: #111: "<thd> kf: Many things can be funded with many...", #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to...", and #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell..." |
| 15:40 | druthb | @quote search cait |
| 15:40 | munin | druthb: 2 found: #103: "<cait>: Nobody can find you hiding in Search.pm ;)" and #71: "cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)" |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | @quote search jdavidb |
| 15:40 | munin | wizzyrea: 5 found: #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being...", #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a...", #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!", #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are...", and #58: "<jdavidb> I prefer killing bugs, not kitties." |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | @quote search druthb |
| 15:40 | munin | wizzyrea: 1 found: #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" |
| 15:40 | * druthb | cackles. |
| 15:41 | kf | @quote get 27 |
| 15:41 | munin | kf: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
| 15:41 | kf | ah |
| 15:41 | bug 5527 | |
| 15:41 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table |
| 15:42 | kf | did my best reporting.. now can someone else fix it...plz? :) |
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| 16:14 | kf | hm possible that the sql repots does not like union? |
| 16:15 | ah no, got it | |
| 16:21 | hm, what is right? old_issues.timestamp> 01/01/2010 or old_issues.timestam > "2010-01-01"? | |
| 16:25 | owen | 2010-01-01 |
| 16:25 | ibot | 2008 |
| 16:25 | kf | ok |
| 16:25 | than this report has another problem | |
| 16:25 | owen | ibot: :P |
| 16:25 | ibot | owen: sorry... |
| 16:25 | kf | then |
| 16:27 | HMPF! | |
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| 16:29 | kf | thx owen |
| 16:33 | will start looking at circulation reports tomorrow ... yay | |
| 16:40 | * kf | eats some of her fudge |
| 16:41 | kf | @roulette |
| 16:41 | munin | kf: *click* |
| 16:41 | kf | @roulette |
| 16:41 | munin | kf: *click* |
| 16:42 | kf | @roulette |
| 16:42 | @roulette | |
| 16:42 | kf was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 16:42 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 16:50 | drulm | Hi All. Any blockers to SOLR besides the Java issue? |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | no z39.50 server |
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| 17:43 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:43 | druthb | welcome back, cait! |
| 17:43 | cait | hi druthb |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | whoa, that's kind of weird... the check out screen now seems to save the last barcode in the check out box: http://screencast.com/t/VVyVb27JE7gC |
| 17:46 | cait | doesn't look good |
| 17:46 | but today is bug monday | |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:46 | I shall report it :) | |
| 17:46 | can you confirm, cait? I don't think it's just me but it would be nice to have a 2nd set of eyes | |
| 17:46 | cait | which version? |
| 17:46 | ibot | which version are you upgraing from ? |
| 17:47 | cait | hehe |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | this is on 3.03. |
| 17:47 | cait | HEAD? |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | HEAD as of this morning |
| 17:47 | cait | ok, updating git :) |
| 17:50 | yep, can confirm | |
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| 17:52 | wizzyrea | zounds, what'd I miss? |
| 17:52 | (kernel panic, oy) | |
| 17:52 | cait | nothing |
| 17:52 | but I tested in 3.2.x while you were away - forgot updating at first | |
| 17:52 | so I can say now: it's one of the last recent commits | |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | git blame made my puter go O.o |
| 17:53 | cait | because first it worked, but after rebasing to 3.2.x it stopped working |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 17:53 | aha | |
| 17:53 | * wizzyrea | logs back in for more investigating |
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| 17:56 | wizzyrea | there was some stuff done 12-15 on that |
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| 18:11 | chris | 2965 |
| 18:11 | is the one, bug 2965 adds that | |
| 18:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2965 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow the user to specify due dates in the past |
| 18:15 | cait | missed it :( |
| 18:15 | chris | - <input type="text" name="barcode" id="barcode" class="barcode focus" size="14" /> |
| 18:15 | + <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="barcode" -->><input type="text" name="barcode" id="barcode" class="barcode focus" size="14" value="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="barcode" -->"/><!-- TMPL_ELSE --><input type="text" name="barcode" id="barcode" class="barcode focus" size="14" /><!-- /TMPL_IF --> <!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
| 18:15 | i think a follow up patch undoing that (testing the old due date still works) | |
| 18:16 | is all that is needed | |
| 18:17 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea: want me to fix it? | |
| 18:17 | chris | (i grabbed one <!-- /TMPL_IF --> too many in that cut and paste |
| 18:17 | but you should be able to see the bit i mean in the patch | |
| 18:18 | cait | chris: can I do a followup? |
| 18:18 | chris | yes please |
| 18:18 | if you just change that line back, and test it works, then send a patch, ill test too, then push and alert chris_n to pull it | |
| 18:18 | and we'll beat 3.2.2 :) | |
| 18:19 | right taking kahu to work today, off to get ready | |
| 18:19 | cait | old due date? |
| 18:27 | not sure I tested all that is there to test... so please test! :) but sending patch now | |
| 18:28 | druthb | cait++ |
| 18:28 | cait | hmpf |
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| 18:33 | druthb | why the hmpf? |
| 18:33 | cait | sent |
| 18:33 | rachel joined #koha | |
| 18:34 | cait | because I don't deserve karma for fixing something that I missed during testing |
| 18:35 | magnus_a is now known as magnus | |
| 18:36 | magnus | as long as it gets fixed in the end... ;-) |
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| 18:43 | * druthb | agrees with magnus |
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| 18:50 | Brooke | Tēnā koutou |
| 18:50 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 18:51 | druthb | o/ Brooke |
| 18:52 | magnus | hiya Brooke |
| 18:52 | * Brooke | feels the love. |
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| 18:53 | Brooke | \0 francharb |
| 18:53 | * jcamins | waves at everyone |
| 18:53 | Brooke | hey dere |
| 18:54 | random: there's a lunar eclipse tonight that everyone can see. | |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Brooke: you'd think that, wouldn't you? |
| 18:55 | Brooke | no actually, I wouldn't |
| 18:55 | a lot of times folks in different hemispheres get celestially shafted | |
| 18:55 | francharb | hi brooke |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Brooke: actually, that was leading up to a comment on air pollution in NYC, but I can't really get there from your response. ;) |
| 18:56 | francharb | sorry but what does \0 stand for? |
| 18:56 | Brooke | heheh |
| 18:56 | well, that's a whole 'nother can o woirms. | |
| 18:56 | it's a person waving. | |
| 18:56 | francharb | humm |
| 18:56 | i wasn't sure | |
| 18:57 | so \0 Brooke! ;) | |
| 18:57 | * jcamins | should probably find something safely easy to do... he was going to say "it's the null character in C." |
| 18:57 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 18:58 | those wacky Librarians wrecking havoc with your characters in favour of ascii art. | |
| 18:59 | francharb | i'm working on koha for 1 year and i realise that i dont know you guys! i should spend more time here! |
| 19:00 | Brooke | indeed :D |
| 19:00 | cait | yep |
| 19:00 | Brooke | we're very handy for procrastination purposes. |
| 19:00 | francharb | sorry, thats my french side! |
| 19:00 | ;) | |
| 19:00 | i should work on that too | |
| 19:01 | always waiting for something to com | |
| 19:01 | e | |
| 19:01 | ;) | |
| 19:02 | lets go back to work! | |
| 19:03 | * Brooke | goes back to the salt mine reluctantly. |
| 19:03 | francharb | salt mine? |
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| 19:05 | mib_lg2z0 | hii |
| 19:05 | jcamins | francharb: "salt mine" is slang for "work" |
| 19:05 | francharb | okkkk |
| 19:05 | hehe | |
| 19:06 | great, new friends + i'm going to improve my english! ;) | |
| 19:06 | mib_lg2z0 | why i cant reserve in opac....show this bug 404 |
| 19:06 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=404 normal, P2, ---, paul.poulain, VERIFIED FIXED, Confirm child page only has title - nothing else |
| 19:06 | mib_lg2z0 | anybody can help me? |
| 19:06 | cait | mib_lg2z0: we need more information to help you |
| 19:07 | which version of koha are you using? | |
| 19:07 | are you trying to reserve from staff or opac? | |
| 19:07 | is there a error message? | |
| 19:07 | mib_lg2z0 | 3.00.02.012 |
| 19:07 | yes | |
| 19:07 | error 404 | |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | cait: thanks for fixing that |
| 19:07 | mib_lg2z0 | whan i try reserve in opac |
| 19:07 | when | |
| 19:07 | jcamins | mib_lg2z0: that is a very old version of Koha. |
| 19:08 | mib_lg2z0 | yes, but i working whit that :( |
| 19:08 | in a university | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Did it work in the past? |
| 19:08 | mib_lg2z0 | yes... |
| 19:09 | francharb | mib_lg2z0: did you try to reserve another item? |
| 19:09 | jcamins | What changed? |
| 19:10 | mib_lg2z0 | not remember... |
| 19:10 | yes i try whit other item | |
| 19:11 | francharb | and always the 404 error? |
| 19:11 | jcamins | mib_lg2z0: you'll need to narrow down what changed. When did it stop working? |
| 19:11 | mib_lg2z0 | 1 week.. |
| 19:12 | jcamins | What happened one week ago? |
| 19:12 | mib_lg2z0 | i was not, was my brother |
| 19:13 | chris | back |
| 19:13 | mib_lg2z0 | low and went up the database |
| 19:13 | because dont indexed | |
| 19:13 | cait | wb chris |
| 19:14 | chris | you made 2 changes cait? |
| 19:14 | cait | seems I have to rewrite bug 5527 - forgot I was testing on an old version - but still seems strange to me. hm. |
| 19:14 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table |
| 19:14 | cait | 2? |
| 19:14 | chris | - id: 'articles', |
| 19:14 | + id: 'articles',b | |
| 19:15 | cait | *sighs* |
| 19:15 | mib_lg2z0 | Error 404 |
| 19:15 | cait | new patch cis under way |
| 19:15 | mib_lg2z0 | dont reserve in opac |
| 19:15 | chris | that was a typo? |
| 19:15 | jcamins | It's Monday. |
| 19:15 | Definitely Monday. | |
| 19:15 | chris | naw, its tuesday you slowpokes |
| 19:15 | * Brooke | agrees with Chris. |
| 19:15 | owen | chris: regarding Bug 4478... |
| 19:15 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4478 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED MOVED, Support for MARBI recommendation 2003-DP01 |
| 19:16 | owen | Whoops... I mean Bug 4473 |
| 19:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4473 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Recent comments view for the OPAC |
| 19:16 | cait | butthis tuesday behaves like a monday |
| 19:16 | jcamins | cait++ # because she deserves extra karma for it being Monday |
| 19:16 | francharb | mib_lg2z0: do you have erro 404 when you are searching an item or just when you try to reserve it? |
| 19:16 | cait | crazy people... |
| 19:16 | druthb | :D |
| 19:16 | mib_lg2z0 | yeees |
| 19:16 | owen | chris: gmcharlt tracked down this for me: see commit ef5279b47 |
| 19:16 | cait | chris: yep typo - there is something wrong with my b today ;) |
| 19:16 | francharb | mib_lg2z0: yes what? ;) |
| 19:16 | chris | cait: cool :) |
| 19:16 | will wait for follow up | |
| 19:17 | francharb | first solution? second solution? |
| 19:17 | mib_lg2z0 | yes that bug |
| 19:17 | cait | first it didn't work at all... not it shows up where it does not belong |
| 19:17 | mib_lg2z0 | error 404 |
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| 19:17 | Brooke | if it's both your zebra server might have crapped out |
| 19:17 | if it's one or another, might be summat different. | |
| 19:17 | drotsk | o/ |
| 19:17 | Brooke | \0 |
| 19:18 | francharb | \0/ |
| 19:18 | mib_lg2z0 | when im try reserve it |
| 19:18 | francharb | :) |
| 19:18 | mib_lg2z0 | in opac |
| 19:18 | second | |
| 19:18 | druthb | :-{ |
| 19:18 | chris | owen: right, we might have to do the same, i have no issue with that, its going away with the new template toolkit work, but it will at least stop it complaining in the tests until then |
| 19:19 | * magnus | wishes everyone a good night |
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| 19:19 | mib_lg2z0 | franccharb, you are a salution about tahat? |
| 19:19 | chris | owen: ill do that now, and update the bug |
| 19:20 | owen | Thanks chris |
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| 19:20 | mib_lg2z0 | francharb???? |
| 19:20 | francharb | mib_lg2z0: never seen that error... |
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| 19:20 | mib_lg2z0 | :( |
| 19:21 | francharb | usually, libraries i work with get the 'no item available' message |
| 19:21 | mib_lg2z0 | i cant reserve in opac, any can help me? |
| 19:21 | jcamins | mib_lg2z0: you'll need to give us more details than that. |
| 19:21 | cait | chris: sent |
| 19:21 | jcamins | We know you get a 404 error, but we don't know when. |
| 19:22 | Brooke | that's not a proper error message, that's an html error message. |
| 19:23 | is the log similar to this? | |
| 19:23 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ember/021669.html | |
| 19:24 | in theory this might help | |
| 19:24 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/018997.html | |
| 19:24 | mib_lg2z0 | not, only show "error 404" |
| 19:24 | chris | thanks cait |
| 19:24 | cait | hope it's ok now |
| 19:24 | Brooke | but that's an old domain |
| 19:24 | and you should really update to a newer version. | |
| 19:26 | pastebot | "chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Translatable templates" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/116 |
| 19:26 | mib_lg2z0 | show other error |
| 19:27 | t" the following fatal error has ocurred | |
| 19:27 | chris | owen: that worked, merging and pushing now |
| 19:28 | mib_lg2z0 | cant use an undefined value as an array reference |
| 19:28 | at/usr/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-reserve.pl line 234 | |
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| 19:30 | * Brooke | waves to Richard. |
| 19:30 | * richard | waves right back |
| 19:35 | chris | owen: updated the bug |
| 19:37 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_4473' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba7b687fd658ac6fa> / Bug 4473: Making a change to TmplTokenizer.pm to stop translation error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c26b772d09f35ba6> |
| 19:44 | hudsonbot | Starting build 236 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 13 days ago) |
| 19:44 | jransom joined #koha | |
| 19:45 | * Brooke | salutes jransom with respect. |
| 19:45 | sings "Happy Birthday" too. | |
| 19:46 | * druthb | waves to jransom. |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Happy birthday, jransom! |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | Happy birthday, jo! |
| 19:47 | chris | cait: right with the new patch it seems you can still set date due in the past, and no barcode hanging around |
| 19:47 | owen | Okay, I've got a Perl question for you smarterers. |
| 19:47 | chris | will push |
| 19:48 | owen | Starting at line 657 of catalogue/search.pl |
| 19:48 | I see it getting the recent shelves for public and private | |
| 19:48 | I see it check "@pubshelves" and set the template variables | |
| 19:48 | cait | happy birthday jo! and your fudge recipe is awesoome! |
| 19:48 | owen | ...but it seems that @pubshelves is true even if there are no shelves |
| 19:49 | chris | happy birthday jransom |
| 19:50 | owen | Can someone help me understand why @pubshelves evaluates as true even though it is empty? |
| 19:50 | chris | @later tell chris_n if you have bug 2965 in 3.2.x you will need to push the new followup patch |
| 19:50 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:51 | chris | owen: because its an array |
| 19:51 | cait | chris: I checked, it's a proble in 3.2.x too |
| 19:51 | chris | righto |
| 19:51 | cait | patch applies |
| 19:52 | owen | chris: So you'd have to check that @pubshelves has contents? |
| 19:52 | chris | yup |
| 19:53 | are you sure it is empty? | |
| 19:55 | owen | I'm sure that there are no shelves |
| 19:55 | chris | right, i dont think that array is empty though :) |
| 19:55 | try this | |
| 19:55 | line 664 | |
| 19:55 | use Data::Dumper; | |
| 19:55 | warn Dumper @pubshelves; | |
| 19:55 | then check the error log to see what is actually in there | |
| 19:57 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_2965' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]24e7920ce703f4419> / Bug 2965: Follow up - fixing problem with barcode field <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]baca39f3fb95897a8> |
| 19:58 | owen | search.pl: $VAR1 = []; |
| 19:58 | jransom is now known as server | |
| 19:59 | chris | so its definitely getting inside the if, else you wouldnt get the warn |
| 20:03 | server is now known as hltServer | |
| 20:05 | chris | rorohiko:[git/kcmaster-]:~/git/koha% perl -e '@array=[]; if (@array){print "hello\n"}' |
| 20:05 | hello | |
| 20:07 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #236: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/236/ |
| 20:07 | Chris Cormack: Bug 4473: Making a change to TmplTokenizer.pm to stop translation error | |
| 20:08 | chris | so yeah it has one element, thats the problem |
| 20:08 | hudsonbot | Starting build 237 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 13 days ago) |
| 20:08 | chris | http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Build/testReport/ |
| 20:08 | got rid of one error | |
| 20:09 | hltServer is now known as Jo | |
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| 20:11 | * Brooke | waves at rachel |
| 20:13 | francharb | Brooke++ for waving everybody! |
| 20:13 | ;) | |
| 20:13 | * Brooke | points out that someone has to be the doorman. |
| 20:14 | francharb | hehe |
| 20:14 | rhcl | It's the doormat position that's a bummer. |
| 20:16 | Brooke | http://2leep.com/srch/d/o/o/door+mats.html |
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| 20:28 | * Brooke | scratches her head at the presence of more than one jransom. |
| 20:28 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 20:29 | jransom | good morning |
| 20:29 | * druthb | thinks two jransoms is a Good Thing! |
| 20:29 | Brooke | indeed |
| 20:29 | jransom | :D |
| 20:30 | Brooke | I think it means Chris worked the kinks out of the Cloning programme... |
| 20:30 | druthb | woot! |
| 20:30 | jransom | doing internet stuff and needed irc in server room to maintain contact with our network admin |
| 20:30 | thanks for b'day wishes | |
| 20:30 | * druthb | suggests cloning an extra Brooke or two, a spare cait, and whole raftload of wizzyreas. |
| 20:31 | Brooke | you know not what you wish for, deary. |
| 20:31 | druthb | ...oooo...and an owen for everyone! |
| 20:31 | jransom | another @raginui wouldn't hurt either |
| 20:31 | cait | a spare cait? |
| 20:31 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #237: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/237/ |
| 20:31 | Katrin Fischer: Bug 2965: Follow up - fixing problem with barcode field | |
| 20:31 | jransom | lets just double up on everyone |
| 20:31 | Brooke | yeah, at least one of those. |
| 20:31 | if I won't spawn in real life, cloning is ill advised. | |
| 20:33 | * Brooke | submits that cloning ought be based off of comits. |
| 20:34 | druthb | oh, my. Then we'd have about a zillion gmcharlts and chrises running around. |
| 20:34 | cait | lots of chris's this way |
| 20:34 | hehe | |
| 20:34 | Brooke | *nod* |
| 20:34 | jransom | Brooke: lol re spawing in real life |
| 20:35 | * druthb | thinks that having a Brooke on this side of the Potomac would be a Fine Thing. |
| 20:36 | Brooke | pfft. |
| 20:36 | druthb | I always do like it when you come to this side of the river, Brooke. :) |
| 20:36 | Brooke | bah. |
| 20:37 | very little excuse with WMATA about. | |
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| 20:43 | * Brooke | waves at nengard. |
| 20:44 | nengard | hiya |
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| 20:49 | francharb | Brooke: you're just waving hello, right? hhumm... doormen are not what they used to be... ;) |
| 20:49 | Brooke | you wound me, Sir. |
| 20:50 | francharb | :( |
| 20:50 | _0/ | |
| 20:50 | _0_ | |
| 20:50 | Brooke | not a thought in the world about channels less fortunate than this that don't have any doormen. |
| 20:50 | francharb | \0_ |
| 20:50 | for Brooke | |
| 20:52 | * francharb | dont like the idea of doormen actually... |
| 20:52 | francharb | i should not joke about it |
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| 20:54 | owen | Bug 5529 |
| 20:54 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5529 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff client shows "Your lists:" and "public lists:" when there are none |
| 20:55 | jcamins | owen: if you test $pubshelves and $barshelves, does that fix the problem? |
| 20:55 | owen | No |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 20:56 | kevinD | Hi Brooke |
| 20:56 | Brooke | hi |
| 20:56 | ibot | hello, Brooke |
| 20:57 | kevinD | What was the womans name you were telling me about last night please |
| 20:57 | jcamins | owen: in that case, I'm out of ideas. |
| 20:57 | Brooke | Nora Blake. |
| 20:57 | ibot | i guess nora blake is the Director. |
| 20:57 | kevinD | Thanks |
| 20:57 | Brooke | ibot, you're a follower, not a leader. ;) |
| 20:57 | ibot | Brooke: i'm not following you... |
| 20:58 | kevinD | I forwarded a URL thinking it would help, but it was mass cat |
| 20:59 | I just had a interview in Cambridge coming home saw a person in a truck in the passing lane on Rt 93 do a 360 he did not hit anyone, just drove over and parked in the breakdown lane | |
| 21:00 | Pick up truck with ladders, was snowing out here | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | /msg ibot forget Nora Blake |
| 21:00 | aw | |
| 21:01 | owen left #koha | |
| 21:01 | kevinD | Oh well thank you, I found out they have a PC that's a few years old in the Quilt Museum |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | Nora Blake? |
| 21:01 | ibot | Nora Blake is, like, the Director of MassCat |
| 21:01 | Brooke | hmm, surely not a Masshole driving like that. |
| 21:01 | kevinD | That's funny |
| 21:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: doesn't look like it worked. |
| 21:02 | kevinD | Glad no crash |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | it totally did |
| 21:02 | jcamins | Unless you were changing the capitalization. |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 21:02 | naw, I asked him in private | |
| 21:02 | and updated the entry | |
| 21:12 | * francharb | waving good bye |
| 21:12 | francharb | it's late |
| 21:12 | time for bed | |
| 21:13 | (doest sound english, hehe) | |
| 21:13 | see you | |
| 21:13 | Brooke | night |
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| 21:41 | jcamins | Time to close up shop. |
| 21:41 | Good night, #koha | |
| 21:41 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 21:41 | Brooke | night |
| 21:53 | robin | heh, a friend of mine just won a 9kg, 1m tall chocolate santa. |
| 21:53 | Brooke | noice! |
| 21:54 | so what you're saying is that you have enough for the rest of the channel, right? | |
| 21:54 | robin | I don't have any, alas :) |
| 21:54 | Brooke | you're friends with a mean person ;P |
| 21:56 | robin | she doesn't have it yet either, doesn't actually get it until christmas |
| 21:56 | I guess they have to make it so it's fresh | |
| 21:56 | Brooke | pffft, technicalities ;) |
| 21:57 | * Brooke | does not want to think of the mold fabrication process. |
| 21:57 | robin | I think it's similar to this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuf[…]-Christmas-dinner |
| 21:58 | given it's made by the same company | |
| 21:59 | * Brooke | is not charitable enough to spare his head. |
| 22:00 | robin | I think after eating the remaining 8kg worth, I'd consider it. |
| 22:00 | Brooke | though I did put in a fair bit of time at the Ronald McDonald house in Albany. The Fraternity was over there all the bloody time. |
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| 22:01 | Brooke | hey saorge |
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| 22:09 | pianohack | Hey #koha |
| 22:09 | Brooke | woot |
| 22:09 | hey dere | |
| 22:09 | :D | |
| 22:09 | * druthb | waves to pianohack |
| 22:09 | pianohack | Hallo |
| 22:10 | How goes it? | |
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| 22:10 | cait | hi pianohack :) |
| 22:11 | Brooke | good enough for gummint woik, you? |
| 22:11 | pianohack | Pretty good |
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| 22:11 | pianohack | Have a possibly useful admin command line script in the works |
| 22:11 | Brooke | outstanding. |
| 22:13 | pianohack | misc/admin/koha-preferences set viewISBD off; misc/admin/koha-preferences get intranetuserjs; misc/admin/koha-preferences dump -o preferences.yaml; misc/admin/koha-preferences load -i preferences.yaml |
| 22:21 | Brooke | omg, Hardball is half over. |
| 22:25 | * Brooke | suspects Chris Matthews would be excellent pub conversation. |
| 22:28 | robin | pianohack: make sure you allow the prefs to be queried through that command line tool, that would allow the configuration to be managed with things like puppet. |
| 22:28 | pianohack | robin: It can get/set one at a time and in bulk, is that what you mean? |
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| 22:29 | robin | pianohack: no, I mean querying them, eg 'koha-preferences get viewISBD' returns 'off' |
| 22:29 | oh | |
| 22:29 | wait | |
| 22:29 | I'm blind | |
| 22:29 | ignore me: it's already there :) | |
| 22:29 | pianohack | But noooow I seeeee |
| 22:30 | Anyway, yes, it does that :) | |
| 22:30 | chris | very handy |
| 22:31 | robin | that means you can automate the configuration and updating of values as part of a centralised server admin system thingy |
| 22:31 | chris | yeah |
| 22:36 | cait | hm, we don't have a report using issues and old_issues in the reports library yet |
| 22:36 | chris | what are you trying to find, borrowers who have had a book out in the last x days? |
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| 22:40 | cait | chris: no, still working on the inactive users |
| 22:41 | I used a union | |
| 22:41 | chris | ahh |
| 22:42 | pianohack | Those reports can get nasty |
| 22:42 | cait | select distinct borrowernumber from (select borrowernumber from issues where timestamp... union select borrowernumber from old_issues where timestamp...) active_users |
| 22:42 | pianohack | UNION with subquery with UNION inside |
| 22:42 | cait | yeah, thought perhaps there is a better way |
| 22:42 | that's why I was checking the reports library | |
| 22:42 | pianohack | Not AFAIK. Ended up doing exactly that when my old library needed a complicated circ report |
| 22:44 | cait | pianohack: thx :) |
| 22:47 | pianohack | Okay, off to bbq, see you guys later |
| 22:47 | Brooke | cheers mate |
| 22:47 | cait | bye pianohack |
| 22:47 | Brooke | may good ribs await. |
| 22:47 | pianohack | Ooh, I hope so |
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| 23:55 | cait | good night all |
| 23:56 | chris | night cait |
| 23:56 | druthb | night, cait! |
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