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| 00:56 | Brooke | hey ronald |
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| 00:57 | ronald | hiya Brooke |
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| 00:59 | Brooke | how's it? |
| 00:59 | 0/ drotsk | |
| 00:59 | drotsk | hi there |
| 00:59 | how is #koha | |
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| 01:00 | drotsk | hi jransom |
| 01:03 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 01:24 | Brooke | hi russ |
| 01:34 | russ | heya brooke |
| 01:36 | Brooke | how's it? |
| 01:37 | russ | taking it easy |
| 01:37 | * russ | has started holidays already |
| 01:37 | chris | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]D&datasets=CLOSED |
| 01:38 | that work for you guys | |
| 01:38 | ? | |
| 01:39 | may is when we went live on new bugzilla (hence the big jump) | |
| 01:42 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5522 - allow google preview to open in a new window <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f36a71375adc75a7> |
| 01:44 | hudsonbot | Starting build 238 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 14 days ago) |
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| 02:07 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #238: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/238/ |
| 02:07 | Robin Sheat: Bug 5522 - allow google preview to open in a new window | |
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| 02:42 | Brooke | /me waves to jransom |
| 02:44 | * jcamins_a | waves to Brooke and jransom |
| 02:44 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 02:44 | Brooke | hooray |
| 02:44 | wb | |
| 02:44 | why yes, Jared, the Bears are in fact crushing the Vikings. ;) | |
| 02:45 | jcamins | Errr... go team! |
| 02:46 | (football? American football? baseball? basketball?) | |
| 02:46 | Brooke | you should feel sorry for my neighbours. I sing the fight song when they score. |
| 02:46 | * Brooke | shudders. |
| 02:46 | Brooke | American Football. |
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| 03:06 | jcamins | Isn't there a test branch that has been converted to Template Toolkit somewhere? |
| 03:07 | Ah, found it. | |
| 03:08 | chris | theres a few |
| 03:08 | did you find the wiki page? | |
| 03:08 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/template_test | |
| 03:09 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]late_toolkit_test | |
| 03:09 | jcamins | Apparently I did not find it. |
| 03:09 | Thanks. | |
| 03:11 | Okay, so that's based on Koha master from 9 November, right? | |
| 03:18 | chris | yep, just after 3.2.0 |
| 03:19 | once we get the last few little issues ironed out, will rebase it up | |
| 03:25 | jcamins | Any idea when you're expecting that to be? |
| 03:26 | chris | not until the new year sometime |
| 03:26 | its only the template_dashfix branch that will move forward | |
| 03:26 | the template_test one is purely that | |
| 03:27 | jcamins | So should I be using template_dashfix now? |
| 03:28 | chris | what are you attempting to do? |
| 03:28 | test the templates? then template_test | |
| 03:28 | jcamins | See what happens when I integrate my TT-based addbiblio-simple with Output.pm |
| 03:28 | Or, at least, that's what I'd like to do. | |
| 03:30 | chris | ahh easiest way to do that |
| 03:31 | checkout template_test | |
| 03:31 | merge in master from koha-community | |
| 03:31 | then cherry-pick or merge your changes in | |
| 03:31 | jcamins | Ah. Got it. |
| 03:36 | Do you really have to cherry-pick one commit at a time? | |
| 03:37 | chris | if you want to cherry-pick you do |
| 03:37 | or you could just merge the branch | |
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| 03:40 | Brooke | hi amit |
| 03:41 | Amit | heya Brooke |
| 03:41 | jcamins | I'll go with option C, thank you. Format-patch for the range, then just apply all the patches. |
| 03:41 | I know how to do that. | |
| 03:41 | And at 10:45pm, I'm not sure I want to learn how to do the other. | |
| 03:42 | Brooke | live a little ;) |
| 03:43 | chris | well you have to learn how to merge, to merge master in :) |
| 03:43 | jcamins | At 10:45? |
| 03:43 | chris | git checkout -b my_template_test catalyst/template_test |
| 03:43 | jcamins | Yep. Did that. |
| 03:43 | chris | git merge koha-community/master |
| 03:44 | jcamins | That's where it told me that there were 245 files, and deleted everything. |
| 03:44 | However, my changes were developed on 3.2.0, so I'm just going to try it with the database behind for now. | |
| 03:44 | chris | righto |
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| 03:52 | Brooke | hi kmkale |
| 03:52 | kmkale | hi Brooke |
| 03:52 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:54 | jcamins | Well, it doesn't fail spectacularly. |
| 03:55 | So I think I'll get some sleep. | |
| 03:55 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 03:55 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 03:59 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Beginning of Release Notes for 3.02.02.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88fedc3e66d8aacf0> / Bug 2965: Follow up - fixing problem with barcode field <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e38084a61bcd8e75e> / Add .packages file for Ubuntu 10.10 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=91161f19 |
| 03:59 | hudsonbot | Starting build 61 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 14 days ago) |
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| 04:22 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #61: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/61/ |
| 04:22 | * Jesse Weaver: Add .packages file for Ubuntu 10.10 | |
| 04:22 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 2965: Follow up - fixing problem with barcode field | |
| 04:22 | * Chris Nighswonger: Beginning of Release Notes for 3.02.02.000 | |
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| 04:33 | Brooke | hey pianohack |
| 04:33 | ibot | pianohack are you still here |
| 04:34 | pianohack | Hola again |
| 04:34 | ibot: No, pianohack is pianohacker | |
| 04:34 | ibot | OK, pianohack. |
| 04:36 | druthb | ibot: pianohack? |
| 04:36 | ibot | pianohack is pianohacker |
| 04:36 | pianohack | Yay! |
| 04:36 | druthb | lol |
| 04:36 | pianohack | How's it going, druthb? |
| 04:36 | druthb | @quote search piano |
| 04:36 | munin | druthb: 9 found: #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source...", #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW", #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs...", #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be...", #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book", #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front...", #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you", #82: "<pianohack> (1 more message) |
| 04:36 | druthb | @more |
| 04:36 | munin | druthb: nengard: If you were using a...", and #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method..." |
| 04:37 | druthb | Going well! Busy as heck with my new gig, and loving every moment of it. |
| 04:37 | @quote get 30 | |
| 04:37 | munin | druthb: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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| 04:38 | pianohack | Those quotes shortened _and_ out of context paint me in quite the strange light :) |
| 04:38 | druthb | you should see what it does for wizzy. |
| 04:39 | pianohack | @quote search wizzy |
| 04:39 | munin | pianohack: 14 found: #105: "* wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not*...", #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon...", #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!", #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me", #25: "<wizzyrea> ha, in #koha we don't pick each...", #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the...", #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's", #52: (1 more message) |
| 04:39 | pianohack | And now I want some bacon |
| 04:39 | druthb | @more pianohack |
| 04:39 | munin | druthb: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers", #61: "*wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical...", #65: "<wizzyrea_> koha doesn't make you pizza... it...", #70: "<wizzyrea> owen: I have a jquery... um... query...", #83: "<wizzyrea> you can watch the sunrise around the...", #87: "<wizzyrea> my standard reply for that is you...", and #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to..." |
| 04:40 | pianohack | That hoity-toity jquery pizza goes to your thighs, I'll tell you what |
| 04:43 | * druthb | noted in searches that both jdavidb and druthb are quoted as saying "Harrrumph!" |
| 04:43 | pianohack | Some things never change |
| 04:43 | druthb | :D |
| 04:43 | I'm still a curmudgeon, yes, but I'm a much happier curmudgeon than before. | |
| 04:44 | @quote search jwagner | |
| 04:44 | munin | druthb: 7 found: #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug", #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty...", #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a...", #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over...", #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish...", #64: "<jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to...", and #75: "<jwagner> They do get over it though. Starting..." |
| 04:44 | pianohack | Good :) |
| 04:44 | Bahahaha | |
| 04:44 | druthb | @quote get 63 |
| 04:44 | munin | druthb: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010) |
| 05:07 | Brooke | roflmao |
| 05:10 | * druthb | wonders idly what Brooke is doing up this late. |
| 05:10 | rachel joined #koha | |
| 05:10 | Brooke | waiting for the lunar eclipse *mom*. |
| 05:14 | druthb | lol |
| 05:24 | pianohack | Brooke: Enjoy it for me, I must be asleep |
| 05:24 | Brooke | aww |
| 05:24 | night | |
| 05:25 | druthb | I'm gonna head for the bed, too. :) |
| 05:26 | * Brooke | wishes she were at Newgrange about now... |
| 05:26 | Brooke | aww. |
| 05:26 | tossers, the lot of ye. | |
| 05:26 | night | |
| 05:26 | druthb | Cait should be along to start the morning shift soon...tell her hello for me, Brooke? |
| 05:27 | Brooke | erm if I'm not oogling celestial bodies, sure. |
| 05:27 | druthb | heheh...see ya soon! |
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| 05:33 | pianohack | Time to start heading towards bed. Night, Brooke :) |
| 05:33 | Brooke | Good night :) |
| 05:37 | eter | are system prefs such as OPACUserCSS stored in the database? |
| 05:42 | just want o make sure so in the event of a system migration all we need is the databse and koha and no need to hunt around remembering what options were set/customized | |
| 05:42 | Brooke | mmm |
| 05:42 | not sure, but I bet a series of screenshots wouldn't hurt as an extra precaution, too. | |
| 05:54 | chris | Yes they are |
| 05:54 | Brooke | where are they stored? |
| 05:57 | eter | ok great thx |
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| 06:01 | * Brooke | waves to rachel |
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| 06:02 | * Brooke | waves to Cait. |
| 06:02 | Brooke | Ruth says hi. |
| 06:02 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 06:02 | she still awake? | |
| 06:02 | Brooke | >.> |
| 06:02 | no... | |
| 06:03 | cait | hm? |
| 06:17 | why are you still awake Brooke? | |
| 06:18 | Brooke | Waiting for the eclipse. |
| 06:18 | cait | you know... this is no 24h ob |
| 06:18 | ah | |
| 06:18 | * Brooke | considers changing her nick to Gunther to avoid suspicion late at night |
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| 06:34 | * chris_n | wishes the clouds would go elsewhere atm |
| 06:38 | * cait | wishes the script would show the same results in koha as in mysql |
| 06:38 | chris | @later tell brooke the systempreferences table |
| 06:38 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:43 | cait | hi chris |
| 06:43 | chris | Hi cait |
| 06:43 | cait | seems the query is right now... but the script does things for display and not all results are shown |
| 06:43 | *sighs* | |
| 06:44 | chris | Heh |
| 06:44 | chris_n | http://img831.imageshack.us/im[…]012eclipse001.jpg |
| 06:45 | penumbra is just starting to show up | |
| 06:45 | in the upper left of the pic | |
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| 06:45 | cait | penumbra? |
| 06:45 | ibot | penumbra is just starting to show up |
| 06:45 | chris_n | the lighter part of the earth's shadow |
| 06:46 | cait | thx |
| 06:46 | chris_n | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_eclipse |
| 06:48 | fwiw, these shots are taken through my homebrew 1143 mm telescope | |
| 06:49 | http://img576.imageshack.us/im[…]2eclipse00101.jpg | |
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| 06:51 | cait | chris_n++ |
| 06:53 | chris_n | ibot: penumbra is the lighter part of the earth's shadow |
| 06:53 | ibot | ...but penumbra is just starting to show up... |
| 06:53 | chris_n | ibot: forget penumbra |
| 06:53 | ibot | chris_n: I forgot penumbra |
| 06:53 | chris_n | ibot: penumbra is the lighter part of the earth's shadow |
| 06:53 | ibot | OK, chris_n. |
| 06:53 | chris_n | penumbra? |
| 06:53 | ibot | somebody said penumbra was the lighter part of the earth's shadow |
| 06:53 | chris_n | ibot: botsnack |
| 06:53 | ibot | thanks chris_n :) |
| 06:55 | cait | is there any reason to use like instead of = in a sql query if I only check for untruncated values? |
| 06:57 | chris_n | not if by untruncated you mean exact/specific values |
| 06:57 | cait | yes, categorycodes |
| 06:57 | branchcodes, such things | |
| 06:57 | chris_n | no reason that I know of |
| 06:57 | cait | i wondered why the script does like instad of = |
| 06:58 | * chris_n | scratches his head |
| 06:59 | chris_n | maybe it is vestigial |
| 06:59 | ie. left over from a past version which supplied less specific values to search on | |
| 07:00 | * chris_n | goes to catch a few winks before the next photo shoot |
| 07:01 | cait | chris_n: thx |
| 07:02 | this script makes some assumptions that seem not right to me - like depending only on old_issues to get the category codes... | |
| 07:02 | more investigation needed | |
| 07:10 | yay | |
| 07:10 | 47 borrowers in a table :) | |
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| 07:22 | cait | oh, getting late! |
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| 07:40 | magnus | happy winter/summer solstice, #koha! |
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| 07:45 | chris | hi magnus |
| 07:46 | magnus | kia ora, chris! |
| 07:46 | cait | hi magnus |
| 07:46 | and bye! | |
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| 07:54 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5106' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba140df0473114cc7> / Bug 5106: Tidy up code in opac-showmarc.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4fb6e3442396d03d8> / Proposed fix for Bug 5106 - Simplify MARC view choices in the OPAC (Conflict marker... <http://git.koha-communi |
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| 07:55 | francharb | hi all |
| 07:59 | hudsonbot | Starting build 239 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 14 days ago) |
| 07:59 | chris | hi francharb |
| 08:00 | magnus | still unstable? |
| 08:00 | hiya francharb | |
| 08:01 | chris_n | slightly out of focus, but near full eclipse: http://img413.imageshack.us/im[…]2eclipse00102.jpg |
| 08:03 | magnus | chris_n: cool! |
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| 08:03 | chris_n | well, its too cloudy to do any more shots |
| 08:04 | magnus | we have too much cloud to see anything... |
| 08:04 | chris_n | too bad considering its been ~456 years since this has happened |
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| 08:05 | * chris_n | probably won't be around for the next such event ;-) |
| 08:05 | chris_n | g'night |
| 08:05 | chris | unless i can finish create_more_time.pl |
| 08:05 | night | |
| 08:05 | chris_n | hehe |
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| 08:14 | magnus | create_more_time.pl sounds like a good thing! |
| 08:14 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 08:14 | hi magnus | |
| 08:14 | magnus | g'day ivanc |
| 08:16 | hdl | hi all |
| 08:17 | ivanc | hi hdl |
| 08:18 | chris | hi ivanc and hdl |
| 08:18 | ivanc | hi chris |
| 08:22 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #239: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/239/ |
| 08:22 | * Nicole Engard: bug 5035 remove default opaccolorstylesheet value for new installs | |
| 08:22 | * Owen Leonard: Proposed fix for Bug 5106 - Simplify MARC view choices in the OPAC (Conflict marker fix 2nd try) | |
| 08:22 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5106: Tidy up code in opac-showmarc.pl | |
| 08:24 | chris | hdl: new/enh/bug_5530 |
| 08:25 | hdl | chris for test and try sign-off ? |
| 08:25 | chris | its been signed-off by frederic |
| 08:25 | hdl | a pity one cannot sign off a branch ;) |
| 08:26 | chris | i have fixed one remaining link to systempreferences |
| 08:26 | so i just need someone to test it works now ive rebased it on master | |
| 08:26 | and if its ok, ill merge it | |
| 08:26 | hdl | I will test that. |
| 08:26 | chris | thanks |
| 08:26 | hdl | And will send you a message |
| 08:27 | chris | thanks |
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| 08:37 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:41 | magnus | hiya kf! |
| 08:44 | hudsonbot | Starting build 240 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 14 days ago) |
| 08:44 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5489' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d369577d43ce4d795> / Bug 5489: Send hold email to branch email address if it exists instead of koha email... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66a5821eb41d30c97> |
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| 09:07 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #240: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/240/ |
| 09:07 | Amit Gupta: Bug 5489: Send hold email to branch email address if it exists instead of koha email address | |
| 09:08 | Amit | heya hudsonbot |
| 09:33 | kf | hi Amit |
| 09:33 | Amit | heya kf |
| 09:44 | kf | chris: still around? |
| 09:47 | bug 5477 duplicate to bug 5531? | |
| 09:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5477 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Test cases requiring database access fail |
| 09:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5531 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Missing sysprefs in language specific files | |
| 09:48 | kf | typo. bug 5474 |
| 09:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql |
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| 10:03 | chris | ive made it depend on 5531 |
| 10:04 | as ive pushed some patches for that now | |
| 10:05 | but 5474 has stuff about the .pref file too, so is bigger scope | |
| 10:05 | kf | ok |
| 10:06 | chris | http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Build/testReport/ next build that should drop to 7 fails |
| 10:06 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5331, fixing Italian sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]23f611378393f624b> / Bug 5531: Fixing german sysprefs file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da291dceac90a6f85> |
| 10:06 | kf | I still have to write one patch for kmkale's new option |
| 10:06 | I think the test does not see the problem | |
| 10:06 | there were also some reports about missing prefs int he .pref files - do the tests cover that? | |
| 10:06 | chris | nope |
| 10:07 | kf | I think it was homeorholdingbranchreturn |
| 10:07 | chris | right, thats on 5474 |
| 10:07 | 5531 is just for the .sql files | |
| 10:08 | kf | ok |
| 10:08 | chris | making a test that tests the .pref files too would be good |
| 10:08 | kf | chris_n had a branch for 3.2.x I think |
| 10:08 | chris | but for now, i just want hudson to stop whining at me |
| 10:08 | kf | fixing most things in the sql files and updating the database with those missing prefs |
| 10:08 | understandable :) | |
| 10:09 | chris | if you get bored http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]tablesortforcirc/ |
| 10:09 | the french file is missing a lot :) | |
| 10:10 | i just cut and paste from the english one, they dont need to be translated, just in there :) | |
| 10:10 | but now, i should sleep | |
| 10:11 | magnus | good night, chris |
| 10:12 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 10:12 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0�C (10:50 AM CET on December 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:13 | kf | good night chris |
| 10:13 | chris: didn't work on it because chris_n did - will try to talk to him later | |
| 10:14 | hudsonbot | Starting build 241 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 14 days ago) |
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| 10:31 | Oak | \o/ |
| 10:32 | kf | ouch |
| 10:32 | I can't search with more than one search term in our icu installation :( | |
| 10:35 | magnus | multiple search terms - who needs 'em? |
| 10:36 | kf | grr ;) |
| 10:36 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #241: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/241/ |
| 10:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: Fixing german sysprefs file | |
| 10:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5331, fixing Italian sysprefs.sql | |
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| 10:52 | hdl | kf: ? should be an icu.xml problem... |
| 10:52 | kf: have you done any edits on that ? | |
| 10:53 | kf: or have you updated your koha code ? | |
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| 11:22 | kf | hdl: here |
| 11:22 | sorry, was at lunch | |
| 11:23 | hdl: we have updated koha and coworker reactivated icu using our existing files | |
| 11:23 | hdl: we are using them in 3.01.61 successfully | |
| 11:23 | no problems | |
| 11:23 | hdl: there was a mail on the mailing list too | |
| 11:23 | on [koha] 18.12. | |
| 11:30 | hdl | kf will try and see if i can find anything |
| 11:30 | kf | hdl: that would be nice |
| 11:30 | hdl: let me know if I can do someting | |
| 11:31 | hdl: I will turn off the system preferences for search and check if it changes something | |
| 11:33 | hdl: turned them all off and now I can't search at all - weird | |
| 11:39 | hdl: the advanced search works - I can search for 2 kw using 2 search fields with boolean and | |
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| 12:01 | * druthb | waves. |
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| 12:31 | hdl | kf: mmm looks like a problem similar to what chris raised for and. |
| 12:32 | kf: have you done any test without icu ? | |
| 12:43 | kf | our non-icu installations work fine |
| 12:46 | we updated 2 of our installations to 3.2.1 - one with icu and one without, both from 3.01.0.61 | |
| 12:47 | hdl | And it breaks only because of icu ? |
| 12:48 | kf | it seems so |
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| 12:49 | hdl | kf : http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d3cb206d18c4be62 |
| 12:49 | Maybe you should try and use this commit. | |
| 12:49 | It fixes icuchain... | |
| 12:49 | It seems that there was a misconfiguration | |
| 12:50 | kf: Lyon3 university iirc had the same issue and this edit fixed that for them. | |
| 12:51 | kf: so could be worth a try. | |
| 12:51 | kf | I will send it to my coworker - will get back to you i |
| 12:51 | hdl | keep me tuned. |
| 12:51 | kf | but I wonder why the file worked in our former installation? |
| 12:51 | something else must have changed too? | |
| 12:52 | hdl | git log -- C4/Search.pm etc/zebradb |
| 12:52 | would tell you. | |
| 12:52 | you can even be more accurate : | |
| 12:54 | git log commitid..HEAD -- C4/Search.pm etc/zebradb | |
| 12:56 | kf | I don't have command line access to this server - so can't try right now, but will get back to you |
| 13:08 | owen | pianohack++ # for command line sys prefs work |
| 13:11 | druthb | Hi, owen! :) |
| 13:11 | owen | Hi |
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| 13:13 | kmkale | hi all |
| 13:13 | hdl | owen: what are you referring to ? |
| 13:13 | owen | hdl: I was reading the IRC log |
| 13:13 | pianohacker is working on a command-line tool for setting system preferences | |
| 13:14 | druthb | hi, kmkale! :) |
| 13:14 | hdl | hi kmkale |
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| 13:19 | owen | Hi thd |
| 13:21 | thd | hdl: In the wiki page for your Solr/Lucene RFC, I moved your comment about Solr/Lucene supporting metasearch to a qualified advantage of Solr/Lucene and added a matching disadvantage for the limitiation. |
| 13:21 | hello owen | |
| 13:21 | kf | hdl: and thx :) |
| 13:22 | thd | hdl: Please let me know if I have it wrong and Solr/Lucene metasearch support includes databases other than Solr/Lucene. |
| 13:24 | hdl: I had not created a Solr/Lucene section as a metasearch option because I presumed that supporting Z39.50/SRU metasearch would be a minimal requirement. | |
| 13:24 | hdl | thd: no you are not... But since many tools do have solr support (alfresco, Dspace, and others....) Then it would be rather an advantage |
| 13:25 | thd | hdl: So Solr/Lucene does support metasearch of Z39.50/SRU targets? |
| 13:25 | hdl | No. Not to my knowledge. |
| 13:26 | thd: sincerely, i donot have any opinion on the fact that we should have z3950 metasearch as a minimal requirement.. | |
| 13:26 | thd | hdl: It is not a requirement for local indexing as I clarified. |
| 13:26 | hdl | imho, any metasearch tool prooved quite hard to maintain and support. |
| 13:27 | libraryfind, masterkey and so on. | |
| 13:27 | thd | hdl: Metasearch is difficult but one of my main interests. |
| 13:27 | hdl | z3950 metasearch has to be carefully done and setup... since many profiles are different. |
| 13:28 | thd | hdl: We could use Pazpar2 for metasearch and Solr/Lucene for local record indexing which I clarified on the wiki. |
| 13:28 | hdl | thd: as far as i know very little libraries asked for that. |
| 13:28 | understand very few | |
| 13:29 | thd | hdl: Many academic libraries use it and I know that some LibLime customers used it but separately from Koha. |
| 13:30 | kf | hdl: I think a lot of people go away from their opacs in favor of metasearch portals here |
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| 13:30 | thd | hdl: The big development in metasearch from most major providers of metasearch currently is integrating metasearch with the OPAC. |
| 13:30 | kf | it would be nice to have that option in koha - so you don't need a separate software |
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| 13:31 | hdl | pazpar2 would have been an option... but would have required a serious work on z3950 servers in koha in order to have mappings to ccl... And even then, I donot think that pazpar2 configuration could be updated with database. |
| 13:31 | thd | kf: That option currently exists in Koha. |
| 13:31 | hdl | thd: but i would not advise a library to use it in production |
| 13:32 | thd | hdl: The report which I added to the BibLibre RFC explains that Torus is an Index Data product which adds database support with a non-free license. |
| 13:33 | hdl | yes... But it is not open-source |
| 13:33 | thd | hdl: JZKit has database support with an AGPL 3 license. |
| 13:34 | hdl: It is open source but not free software which is why the distinction is important but still not a prefered solution. | |
| 13:34 | kf | thd: I think it's not widely used at the moment and has some smaller problems |
| 13:35 | thd | hdl: In any case neither JZKit nor Torus would necessarily have an impact on the license for Koha as separate programs using a standard communication protocol and no tight integration. |
| 13:35 | kf: Which it are you identifying? | |
| 13:36 | kf | thd: talking about pazpar2 - I remember chris did some work on it. I always wanted to test it out, but have not found time yet :( |
| 13:37 | thd | kf: I have tested it and found it to work well for what it does. |
| 13:37 | kf | that's good to know then. |
| 13:39 | thd | kf: My biggest concern about Pazpar2 for metasearch is that it CCL based which is less expressive than PQF or Solr/Lucene query syntax. |
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| 13:42 | thd | hdl: As I explained in my report in the Solr/Lucene RFC, JZKit may not be a serious metasearch option for Koha because of lack of Perl bindings to Java based JZKit. I speculated about the possibility of sending client queries to JZKit using YAZ. I never had a response from Ian Ibbotson about the issue. |
| 13:42 | * druthb | did a rough, non-scientific analysis at one of her previous libraries, and found that exactly zero patrons used the very-advanced search capabilities in their ILS. Only a very small number used the fill-in advanced search form. Only a cataloger actually ever entered a direct-tag query. |
| 13:43 | thd | druthb: I have great scepticism of the value of log analysis for features which are not well implemented in the first place. |
| 13:43 | * druthb | quit worrying about how well the direct-tag query was working after that. |
| 13:44 | druthb | "If you build it, they will come," thd? |
| 13:44 | thd | druthb: Exactly. |
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| 13:45 | druthb | In my twenty years in IT, I've not often found that to be the case--and when it has been, it's always been because the feature was dang-near idiot-easy to learn. None of (CCL|PQL|Solr Syntax) are easy to learn. |
| 13:45 | thd | druthb: Advanced search needs to do more to really help the user and not be a hidden feature requiring extra page links to find. |
| 13:46 | druthb: I do not mean user typing queries directly into a blank search box. | |
| 13:46 | druthb | Sure, thd, I agree. But if they're not learnable by an illiterate toothless-tiger at Podunk PL, it won't get used terribly much. |
| 13:47 | thd | druthb: Users should never need to learn any query language. |
| 13:47 | druthb | I concur. You're going to have to wrap *something* around a blank search box, though, to get from point A to point B. |
| 13:49 | thd | druthb: The user interface should do much more to guide the user to forming a successful query by having forms which use more selection from lists of options and less free typing. |
| 13:49 | druthb: most users may still prefer to type a couple of key words into a blank search box and hope for the best. | |
| 13:50 | owen | As they should |
| 13:50 | druthb | When we were on DRA Classic, we could barely get users to do "t=" ; they just wanted to type a title. Likewise, when we gave 'em a pulldown on Unicorn, they darn-near-never used it, unless the title was too-common a word. |
| 13:50 | Mostly, they just want to throw words at it. | |
| 13:51 | thd | druthb: I am interested in development supporting queries which simply do not work well enough at finding what the user is seeking without guidance at building a more sophisticated queries using forms, links, etc. |
| 13:52 | * druthb | nods. |
| 13:52 | thd | owen: Most users may be satisfied with whatever comes up from any query they devise. |
| 13:52 | druthb | I agree...the "advanced" tools should be as simple as they can be made. I've seen some that only a cataloger would love. |
| 13:53 | (not disparaging catalogers--they just need different things in a search tool than most of the rest of humanity, to do what they do for a living.) | |
| 13:54 | thd | owen: I am concerned about serious researches in large academic libraries who are never going to learn LCSH or anything else which may help them. The user interface has to help them in ways which very few user interfaces except for some specialised database interfaces do now. |
| 13:54 | kf | druthb: but we need a solution that works for both :) |
| 13:54 | druthb | correct, kf. :) |
| 13:55 | thd | kf: The default in an advanced search form could be keyword matches all which does not hurt the simplest users. |
| 13:56 | druthb | From a vendor perspective, making the catalogers happy is frequently important, as such folks are influential in the decision to use a given system. But on a university campus with, say, 7,000 students, faculty, and staff, maybe....two? are likely to be catalogers. |
| 13:56 | thd | kf: However, I still favour an isolated search box at top to serve the simplest users without scaring them with more options. |
| 13:57 | Forms should also be dynamic and expandable to hide the scariest options unless following a link to extra-scary very precise super advanced search form. | |
| 13:59 | druthb | thd++ |
| 13:59 | kf | thd: I agree - especially for the opac. Those very advanced search options are probably only needed in the intranet / staff interface. |
| 14:00 | thd | kf: No user should be deprived of the opportunity to use the most sophisticated features if they may help him. |
| 14:00 | owen | Not least because the staff uses the OPAC too |
| 14:00 | thd | kf: I would not exclude capabilities from the OPAC except for supporting queries designed to thrash databases. |
| 14:01 | kf: Simple thrashing avoiding defaults should suffice to avoid database thrashing. | |
| 14:02 | druthb | In Symphony, it's perfectly legal in the OPAC to enter "gold{TI} and Oke{AU} and Minneapolis{260}" which is ludicrous; I never caught a patron doing that. |
| 14:04 | thd | druthb: Have you caught patrons using ti = gold AND au = Oke AND pubplace = Minneapolis ? |
| 14:05 | druthb | not when I've been looking, no, other than in BI classes at that particular university. Once in a great while they'd use an advanced search form which looked a bit like Koha's, but that was as far as any of 'em got. |
| 14:06 | thd | druthb: there once was a time not very long ago when all libraries were using telnet and all queries had to be something like CCL or they would fail. |
| 14:07 | druthb | oh, I remember; I was on a DRA system for years. |
| 14:07 | thd | druthb: DRA? |
| 14:07 | druthb | They had little instruction sheets taped up on all the VT320 monitors. |
| 14:07 | Yep. circa 1992-1997, it was using dumb terminals. They got bought by Sirsi in 2001. | |
| 14:09 | * druthb | is an oldie moldy. |
| 14:12 | thd | druthb: I grew up on telnet based MELVYL from high school and after. I considered it an extraordinary advantage over the card catalogue mostly because I could search the whole state instead of merely the local University of California library at which I was located. |
| 14:12 | owen | Oh yeah, well I searched my library catalog by carrier pigeon. The book arrived eight weeks later by pony express. |
| 14:12 | * druthb | misses the telnet-based systems occasionally, but not for long. |
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| 14:13 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 14:13 | druthb | My first job out of college was running a DRA telnet-based system. I got almost all the way through college on the paper catalog. |
| 14:13 | thd | owen: My interlibrary loans for scarce academic material take me at least as long to procure. |
| 14:14 | magnus | hiya jcamins |
| 14:14 | jcamins | I merely opened my hands and allowed a butterfly to flutter its wings once, thus ensuring that the record I was interested in would automatically show up on the terminal when I was walking by. |
| 14:15 | Kind of like Emacs. | |
| 14:15 | Did I miss anything exciting? | |
| 14:15 | druthb | @quote add <jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed a butterfly to flutter its wings once, thus ensuring that the record I was interested in would automatically show up on the terminal when I was walking by. |
| 14:15 | munin | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #113 added. |
| 14:16 | thd | owen: In New York City, I most usually only have to use interlibrary loan for material which is only held by somewhere between 1 and 15 libraries in the US. |
| 14:19 | owen: Access to great libraries where I would not need to use interlibrary loan was most of the reason I moved to the most expensive place in the US 23 years ago. | |
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| 14:22 | druthb | that was odd...open one totally-unrelated app, and firefox and chatzilla fall over. fascinating. |
| 14:24 | thd | druthb: and you are not using MS Windows? |
| 14:25 | druthb | I'm on Windows 7, at the moment. |
| 14:26 | thd | druthb: You ask for such problems even in MS Windows 7. |
| 14:27 | druthb | Oh, sure, along with a closed API, really, really lousy support, and too many decisions being made for me about what I want. It works with this hardware, though, and I've not had time to monkey with switching over. (New hardware came with it.) |
| 14:29 | kmkale | bye all good night |
| 14:30 | thd | hdl: I have it on the hardware I bought to continue to function after I broke the screen on the laptop I had been using. However, everything involved in ensuring my new configuration was well implemented took me at least 3 weeks. |
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| 14:30 | thd | s/hdl/druthb/ |
| 14:31 | druthb: My replacement screen arrived by the time I had my new system configured. | |
| 14:31 | druthb | thd: yah, it takes a little poking and prodding to get things set up where they work for my workflow, but once I got it like I want it, I'm kinda loathe to tinker much. |
| 14:32 | thd | druthb: Memory leaks in gparted were my real downfall adding at least two weeks to the process. |
| 14:34 | * druthb | is fundamentally lazy. "If it ain't broke, it don't need fixing" is right up there with "be excellent to each other" in her list of commandments. |
| 14:35 | thd | druthb: I tend to perceive everything as broken which is not flexible enough to work however I would wish it to work :) |
| 14:36 | * thd | is fundamentally destined for losing much sleep perfecting things. |
| 14:37 | druthb | Ah. Where I don't worry too much about the perfection of the tool, as long as the final outcome is good; the tool itself is rarely an outcome. |
| 14:38 | * druthb | occasionally uses the handle of a screwdriver as a hammer, as a result, if it'll get that tack driven well enough. |
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| 15:42 | kf | hdl: looks good! we will try to merge our changes in next and I will play with the search sys prefs a little. But the normal searches with more than one search term work now! |
| 15:53 | hdl | kf thanks for report |
| 15:54 | kf: feel free to add sign off on the patch you used. | |
| 15:54 | or send yours. | |
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| 16:08 | kf | hdl: I think we will try to find out which change it was |
| 16:08 | hdl: we did some things to umlaut indexing we want to add back - but you have some additional rules | |
| 16:09 | hdl: Colin wrote it works in HEAD - perhaps we should test that too | |
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| 16:38 | owen | Hi mib_o54cw |
| 16:39 | mib_o54cw | Good morning |
| 16:39 | I need to get a list of users and loans, as I do or what are the tables in the database that I review | |
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| 16:42 | Brooke | Tēnā koutou |
| 16:43 | * Oak | waves at Brooke |
| 16:43 | * Brooke | winks at Oak. |
| 16:44 | Oak | hehe |
| 16:44 | owen | mib_o54cw: users are in the borrowers table |
| 16:44 | mib_o54cw: loans are in the issues table | |
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| 17:00 | * Brooke | waves to bigbrovar |
| 17:05 | kf | koha-community++ |
| 17:05 | @karma koha-community | |
| 17:05 | munin | kf: Karma for "koha-community" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 17:05 | kf | @karma koha_community |
| 17:05 | munin | kf: Karma for "koha_community" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 17:05 | kf | hm. |
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| 17:06 | Brooke | ibot: be druthb |
| 17:06 | ibot | Harrumph! |
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| 17:06 | * Brooke | waves to Rachel |
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| 17:07 | hdl | kf I doubt he tested with an icu |
| 17:08 | kf | hdl: yeah, but cant test your file on HEAD too :) |
| 17:08 | needed for a patch anyway | |
| 17:08 | hdl++ | |
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| 17:56 | kf | bye all! |
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| 17:56 | Oak | bye kf |
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| 18:03 | Brooke | hi collum |
| 18:04 | collum | hi Brooke |
| 18:10 | * ruth_mtg | waves at Brooke as she runs from one meeting to another. |
| 18:10 | * Brooke | smiles |
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| 18:23 | chris | Morning |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:26 | * Brooke | salutes Chris with respect. |
| 18:29 | owen | Hi chris |
| 18:34 | fredericd | chris: Do you know why templates .po files contain a template files full path rather than a relative path? |
| 18:35 | chris | No idea doesn't actually matter tho |
| 18:36 | As its always been that way | |
| 18:36 | fredericd | yes, it doesn't matter, you're correct, except that it modifies a lot insane modification which will polluate git history... |
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| 18:37 | fredericd | we really need to put .po files outside main koha code repository... |
| 18:37 | chris | Yeah you could change the translate scripts |
| 18:38 | To make it relative if you wanted | |
| 18:38 | There was a mailing list thread about that | |
| 18:40 | Ill look when I get to work | |
| 18:40 | I used to run a translation branch | |
| 18:40 | And merge squash into master | |
| 18:41 | I'm not sure its a big enough problem to worry about now, maybe post 3.4 | |
| 18:42 | When we have changed to TT | |
| 18:44 | fredericd | it's just that my repository is located in another place that yours was, and so a lot of comment lines are changed for nothing |
| 18:44 | chris | But id be ok with having the po files in their own repo |
| 18:45 | Course that won't change the size of the main repo | |
| 18:46 | but it might be able to set up pootle to commit direct to the repo | |
| 18:46 | (Which I wouldn't want it to do to the main one) | |
| 18:46 | So might be worth it for that | |
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| 18:47 | * chris | will be back from the bus |
| 18:49 | * owen | testing jQuery UI autocomplete |
| 18:58 | chris | Back |
| 19:00 | Why did you want a sep repo fredericd, allowing pootle to commit to it would be my reason what's yours? | |
| 19:06 | fredericd | chris: Yes, version control with Pootle |
| 19:06 | and size | |
| 19:06 | chris | Size wouldn't change ... well it wouldn't go down, but would stop growing :) |
| 19:07 | Unless we try to rewrite the history to remove the .po files *shudder* | |
| 19:07 | fredericd | yes, stop size increasing due to .po files modifications |
| 19:08 | chris | Cool in that case I have nothing against the idea |
| 19:09 | Need to make sure we update the package scripts and the make tarball ones | |
| 19:09 | So that can still include them in a release (for now) | |
| 19:10 | Let's revisit it in the new year | |
| 19:10 | And work out a plan run it past everyone | |
| 19:11 | fredericd | I'd like templates translation to occur in web installer not before building tarball |
| 19:11 | chris | If we can do it with little disruption I think no one will complain |
| 19:11 | fredericd | this way tarball size will be minimal |
| 19:11 | a lot of testing... | |
| 19:11 | ibot | rumour has it a lot of testing is needed before we step into a new version :-D |
| 19:11 | chris | yup for installing from tarball that makes sense |
| 19:12 | For the packages I want them built an in their own | |
| 19:12 | apt-get install koha koha_l8n_fr_FR | |
| 19:13 | Or something | |
| 19:13 | - instead of _ for a start :) | |
| 19:14 | But would mean easy to install or upgrade a translation | |
| 19:14 | * francharb | waving Brooke and everyone before leaving |
| 19:14 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 19:15 | francharb | good day/night all |
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| 19:21 | chris | My stop bbiab |
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| 19:25 | sylvar | Say, if I used the MARC Export tool to dump the entire biblio database in XML format, where should I look for the biblionumber in an exported bib record? |
| 19:25 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:25 | Brooke | hey kate |
| 19:27 | sylvar | I hope that's not a trick question... |
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| 19:28 | cait | sylvar: koha? one of the 9xx fields |
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| 19:32 | sylvar | Hmm, I must be doing something wrong then, cait. I see a few different 9xx fields in the exported record containing the barcode I'm looking for, but nothing matching the biblionumber in that items row. |
| 19:32 | cait | items are in 952 |
| 19:32 | what do you want to do? | |
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| 19:32 | cait | and marc21 or unimarc? |
| 19:33 | jwagner | sylvar, in marc21 try the 999c |
| 19:33 | sylvar | hmm |
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| 19:34 | richard | hi |
| 19:43 | chris | back |
| 19:45 | richard | wb chris |
| 19:46 | * sylvar | has figured out an alternate solution, but thanks, y'all |
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| 19:48 | chris | heya pianohack |
| 19:48 | ibot | pianohack is pianohacker |
| 19:48 | pianohack | Hehe |
| 19:48 | owen | Hi pianohack |
| 19:49 | pianohack | Hello, owen and chris |
| 19:49 | owen | pianohack: I passed off a bug on you today, don't know if you saw |
| 19:49 | pianohack | Saw that |
| 19:49 | Remember working on the shelf browser though not changing the scroll arrow behavior, I'll take a look | |
| 19:49 | owen | Thanks |
| 19:50 | Hey, pianohack, I've got another thing I wanted to ask you about if you've got a minute | |
| 19:50 | pianohack | Sure, what's up? |
| 19:50 | owen | When you were setting up the messaging system in the new prefs editor (where it pops up the "saved" message) |
| 19:51 | Did you ever look into passing the name of the saved prefs to the messages? | |
| 19:51 | pianohack | Hmm, no I didn't |
| 19:51 | chris | oh, that would be handy |
| 19:51 | pianohack | That would definitely be nice, though only up until about 6 changed prefs |
| 19:51 | chris | *nod* |
| 19:51 | pianohack | But most people change one or two at a time anyway, so that's no big deal |
| 19:51 | chris | mostly people dont change much more than that |
| 19:51 | yeah | |
| 19:51 | owen | I thought it might be a neat idea, but I didn't want to start looking into it until I asked if you'd tried it |
| 19:52 | richard | bummer - latest cod4lib journal has wrong link for koha download -> http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/4438 - about 2/3 down the page |
| 19:53 | pianohack | created as bug 5532 assigned to myself; feel free to steal it if you want |
| 19:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5532 enhancement, P5, ---, pianohacker, ASSIGNED, "Saved" message for sysprefs editor should show names of saved prefs |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Let the editor know. They'll fix it. |
| 19:54 | owen | Thanks pianohack. |
| 19:54 | pianohack | jcamins has me on this bug-reporting thing |
| 19:54 | Now I know why we're up to 5532 already :) | |
| 19:55 | chris | jcamins: you have let the editor know ? |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Not yet. I can if you'd like. |
| 19:55 | chris | yes please |
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| 19:56 | druthb | o/ |
| 19:56 | chris | hi druthb |
| 19:57 | pianohack | Hello druthb |
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| 19:58 | druthb | hi, chris and pianohack! |
| 19:58 | chris | hey hey what the... |
| 19:58 | pianohack | He thinks he can escape that easily |
| 19:58 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack |
| 19:58 | * chris | shakes his fist at brooke |
| 19:59 | pianohack | Hahaha |
| 19:59 | That is a really good photo | |
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| 19:59 | druthb | heheheh |
| 19:59 | richard | lol |
| 20:00 | * druthb | is amused by the other person-pages on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Category:History |
| 20:00 | chris | yah |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Sent. |
| 20:04 | * jwagner | is fresh out of functioning brain cells. |
| 20:05 | jwagner | Can someone remind me which applies on notice triggers? Are they controlled by the _item_ library or the _patron_ library? |
| 20:05 | Or does it matter? | |
| 20:07 | cait | nice photo :) |
| 20:10 | chris | what notices jwagner ... overdues? |
| 20:11 | jwagner | yes -- the notice triggers |
| 20:11 | If I'm setting Branch A's triggers, does Branch A mean the item or the user? | |
| 20:13 | pianohack | the_website_is_down++ # Have to stop every few minutes to decide whether to laugh or cry |
| 20:13 | jcamins | pianohack: what website? |
| 20:14 | pianohack | http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ # Web video series, thankfully. I don't have a website that is down myself :) |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:14 | pianohack | I've done the frantic "JESSE, KOHA IS BROKEN" shuffle |
| 20:14 | allcaps very relevant | |
| 20:15 | chris | heh |
| 20:15 | jwagner: good question, id have to read the code to find out | |
| 20:15 | its not in the manual is it? | |
| 20:16 | jwagner | not that I've found, I'll go look some more |
| 20:17 | The HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref says it controls checkout & fine rules -- wonder if it also controls notices? | |
| 20:18 | chris | hmm could be |
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| 20:20 | jwagner | foreach my $branchcode (@branches) .... SELECT biblio.*, items.*, issues.*, TO_DAYS(NOW())-TO_DAYS(date_due) AS days_overdue |
| 20:20 | That sounds like it's basing on items, doesn't it? | |
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| 20:21 | Frédéric Demians: Updated .po files for 3.2.2 inclusion | |
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| 20:36 | cait | fredericd++ |
| 20:45 | chris | fredericd++ #thanks for the patch, will push it up |
| 20:49 | jwagner: sorry got distracted now im interviewing someone will try to look when i get back | |
| 20:52 | jwagner | chris, thanks. Am about to leave now -- I'll check in tomorrow morning. |
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| 21:00 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5506 Shorten .po file comment lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5577f13f77a86a877> |
| 21:16 | hdl | chris i think that you can revert 77426c9ef16ce1d8a5055f25eda62498980ce24e and 79ad2a0e176ab2c1e29cb6c4f06adac08ddb953b on the new/enh/bug_5530 (or even removing those commits) |
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| 21:19 | jcamins_a | Au revoir, #koha ('cause we all know I'll be back in a few hours) |
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| 21:22 | Frédéric Demians: Bug 5506 Shorten .po file comment lines | |
| 21:24 | * sylvar | is embarrassed to say I think I've deleted my admin borrower and don't know exactly how to recreate it. |
| 21:25 | pianohack | sylvar: You can log in as kohaadmin / your mysql password |
| 21:25 | sylvar | whew, thanks pianohack |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | and you can assign superlibrarian permissions to any borrower |
| 21:25 | pianohack | Yup |
| 21:26 | Also, hi wizzy | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | PH: i've been watching your website is down videos... |
| 21:26 | omg | |
| 21:26 | and grats on the end of the semester :D | |
| 21:26 | pianohack | The first one is the best, but they're all funny |
| 21:27 | Thanks, happy to be done :) | |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | the first one made me want to cry |
| 21:27 | whilst laughing | |
| 21:27 | pianohack | Yes, I know. Combination of "hahaha that's hilarious" and "oh god, I've been there" |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | "the website is down... hey, where'd the homepage go?" |
| 21:27 | * wizzyrea | runs screaming |
| 21:28 | pianohack | What have you been up to? |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | oh, causing trouble and wreaking havoc, the usual. |
| 21:28 | :) | |
| 21:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:40 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.8�C (10:39 PM CET on December 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:40 | * cait | waves to wizzyrea |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | yo cait :D |
| 21:59 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! o/ |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 22:05 | chris | @later tell chris_n you probaby want to cherry-pick the latest bug 5506 commit |
| 22:05 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:05 | chris_n | heh... done and done :-) |
| 22:05 | chris | :) |
| 22:06 | chris_n | just about time to roll tarballs |
| 22:06 | chris | hdl: revert them instead of just pushing the follow up ? |
| 22:07 | hdl: im easy either way, whatever you think is better | |
| 22:07 | chris_n: w00t :) | |
| 22:08 | hdl | chris revert should be ok... Both are only here to remove the links... So reverting or even rebasing -i and removing them could be al right. |
| 22:08 | chris | righto |
| 22:08 | hdl | otherwise, it looks ok. |
| 22:10 | chris | cool, will rebase remove those and merge |
| 22:10 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5506 Shorten .po file comment lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f52a2ded4d6bee363> / Bug 5331, fixing Italian sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13812cc740ec7e108> / Bug 5531: Fixing german sysprefs file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dd3bcd82603791a72 |
| 22:11 | chris | 7 errors in the syspref.sql files to fix too, and hudson will be back to stable again, i might try to do those today too |
| 22:11 | the emails are getting annoying :) | |
| 22:11 | chris_n | chris: I have done some work on that |
| 22:11 | chris | cool, if you point me at it, id appreciate it |
| 22:12 | chris_n | sorry, but its one big commit: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15a7873e40597d2c7 |
| 22:12 | * chris | will look |
| 22:13 | cait | chris_n: I looked at it, some update sql things seemed not ok to me |
| 22:13 | chris | but first i'll do 5530 |
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| 22:13 | jwagner | Well, so much for an evening off :-( |
| 22:13 | cait | chris_n: line 3995 |
| 22:13 | chris_n | cait: it was a "sledge-hammer" approach |
| 22:14 | hudsonbot | Starting build 63 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #54 14 days ago) |
| 22:14 | * chris_n | is off all of the time according to some |
| 22:14 | cait | hm? |
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| 22:14 | cait | chris_n: you asked me to test - but I was not sure you got my message |
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| 22:15 | chris_n | cait: sorry, I probably missed it with the mess my schedule has been the past several weeks |
| 22:15 | cait | I have not applied the patch yet, but spotted some missing sql in the updatedatabase |
| 22:15 | chris | chris_n: i have done de and it already |
| 22:15 | chris_n | I figured I'd missed some things in updatedatabase |
| 22:16 | chris: I pushed those to 3.2.x earlier | |
| 22:16 | chris | ill grab the other ones, and commit them as individual changes, then will look at updatedatabase last |
| 22:16 | chris_n | well, maybe the others will be of some help |
| 22:16 | cait | chris: chris_n does an update database - so people with existing installations will get complete sys prefs :) |
| 22:16 | chris | yep, ill do that separate |
| 22:16 | all i want for now is a fresh install to work | |
| 22:16 | hdl | chris : Do you wish me to send the fix for french sysprefs ? |
| 22:16 | chris | so i can steal the .sql files |
| 22:16 | to do that | |
| 22:16 | hdl: cna you look at | |
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| 22:17 | chris | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15a7873e40597d2c7 |
| 22:17 | the fr-FR file there | |
| 22:17 | and check its ok, if so, ill just grab it :) | |
| 22:17 | or if you want to do it by hand | |
| 22:18 | running perl xt/syspref.t | |
| 22:18 | in master | |
| 22:18 | will tell you exactly what its missing and what needs to be deleted :) | |
| 22:18 | but yes i would love a fixed fr file :) | |
| 22:18 | chris_n | chris: all of my patches passed xt/syspref.t last I checked |
| 22:19 | but they will need to be translated | |
| 22:19 | chris | awesome, in that case, hdl do yuo want to grab the file from there, translate it, and send it as a patch? |
| 22:19 | hdl | i saw the missing ones. I see that chrisn has import those... But explanation is in English... I donot care.... since it is YAML which will be displayed... But would be better to translate. |
| 22:19 | chris_n | cait: has located a nasty in updatedatabase |
| 22:19 | hdl | chris taking that. |
| 22:19 | chris | cool thanks |
| 22:20 | chris_n | so that will need to be fixed |
| 22:20 | hdl | I will send it to you |
| 22:20 | chris_n | chris: if this will transpire in the next hour or so, I'll hold off rolling up 3.2.2 for it |
| 22:20 | chris | chris_n: yeah im splitting the work bug 5531 for the .sql files bug 5474 for the updatedatabase |
| 22:20 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5531 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Missing sysprefs in language specific files |
| 22:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql | |
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| 22:21 | chris | so if you wanted to submit updatedatabase.pl fixed as bug 5474 that would be cool |
| 22:21 | chris_n | k |
| 22:21 | chris | thanks heaps |
| 22:22 | hdl: i think i might just push frederics patch, i might mess it up trying to rebase, i think pushing the follow up might be safer | |
| 22:22 | hdl | bad vim.... double encoding utf8 |
| 22:23 | then revert only the second... iirc. fredericd patch is undoing the first. | |
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| 22:23 | chris | right |
| 22:24 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]474e4f37b043ba420 | |
| 22:24 | hdl | eh... it is not vim, it is gitweb |
| 22:24 | chris | i changed one too, so ill push his, do a grep and check have them all |
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| 22:28 | * cait | waves to jransom |
| 22:30 | hdl | chris typo detected in sysprefs.sql for UseTableSortForCirc |
| 22:30 | cait | bed time |
| 22:31 | good night all :) | |
| 22:31 | chris | 5530 aka biblibre admin changes is about to be merged |
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| 22:32 | chris | ahh could you fix that too if you have time hdl, it can wait until tomorrow though if you want to sleep :) |
| 22:32 | chris_n | opps... bye cait |
| 22:32 | * wizzyrea | whispers "hdl wants to sleep... he wants to relax... hdl wants to sleep..." |
| 22:33 | whispers "your eyes are getting heavy... you're drifting off to dreamland..." | |
| 22:33 | hdl | wizzyrea: i'd love all our libraries would tell the same ;) |
| 22:34 | * wizzyrea | shrugs |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | it works on my 2 year old :) |
| 22:34 | I can whisper at your librarians too, if you like :D | |
| 22:34 | chris | kapow, another branch down |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | chris++ |
| 22:35 | chris | now if we can get those patches paul reformatted signed off, we can get 2 more done |
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| 22:36 | * Chris Nighswonger: Adding Translations Updated to Release Notes for 3.02.02.000 | |
| 22:36 | * Nicole Engard: bug 5035 remove default opaccolorstylesheet value for new installs | |
| 22:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5531: Fixing german sysprefs file | |
| 22:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5331, fixing Italian sysprefs.sql | |
| 22:36 | * Frédéric Demians: Bug 5506 Shorten .po file comment lines | |
| 22:40 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5530' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dac9d16b407593dc0> / Bug 5530 Follow up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d1ae79cfd630d18c> / Bug 5530: Fixing a link to systempreferences.pl instead of preferences.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
| 22:42 | hdl | chris i wanted to send the amendments today... But was unable to work on that. |
| 22:42 | chris | no worries |
| 22:43 | chris_n | chris: any chance you can test this: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c036e7fe3a3a9fa09 |
| 22:43 | it seems to work from here | |
| 22:43 | chris | http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
| 22:44 | for anyone ever needing work, that patches needing signoff .. there are some in there that could really do with a look over | |
| 22:44 | hudsonbot | Starting build 243 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 15 days ago) |
| 22:44 | chris_n | but I am not testing on multiple languages |
| 22:44 | chris | 172 sitting there |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | oh zounds |
| 22:45 | chris | after the 3.2.2 release im going to send an email pointing out all the things people can do to help |
| 22:45 | * chris_n | runs out to throw steak on the grill |
| 22:45 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 22:45 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 4.8�C (5:45 PM EST on December 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:45 | chris | there are 118 in patch pushed state too |
| 22:45 | to be tested and marked resolved | |
| 22:45 | i think im gonna start sending an email to koha-devel each monday | |
| 22:46 | with numbers and encouragement :) | |
| 22:46 | hmm 5 in the signed-off queue .. thats my queue to push | |
| 22:46 | * chris | will try to always keep that single figures |
| 22:47 | chris | chris_n: i probably wont have time today, but ill try to find time |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | I will work on some of those tomorrow. |
| 22:52 | the 118 | |
| 22:52 | errr | |
| 22:53 | not tomorrow... staff day. But thursday. | |
| 22:54 | chris | yay :) |
| 22:55 | hdl | chris I see that some sysprefs are removed... MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate, DisplayHierarchy... AllowNotForLoanOverride... BranchTransferLimitsType... |
| 22:56 | Are they really removed ? | |
| 22:56 | chris | yeah they are not in the english one |
| 22:57 | but would have to check the code to see if they are in there | |
| 22:57 | 2 secs | |
| 22:57 | or perhaps they should be added to the english | |
| 22:57 | C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm: if (C4::Context->preference('MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate') ){ | |
| 22:58 | but | |
| 22:59 | ### the $merge flag is now depreceated and will be removed at code cleaning | |
| 22:59 | if (C4::Context->preference('MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate') ){ | |
| 22:59 | &merge($authid,$oldrecord,$authid,$record); | |
| 22:59 | } else { | |
| 22:59 | ahh that comment is old | |
| 23:00 | hdl | DisplayHierarchy is quite commonly used by our libraries in 3.0 |
| 23:00 | chris | it may be that it was never added properly in the 3.2 code |
| 23:01 | so you might need to do some checking and instead of removing add them to the english one | |
| 23:01 | hdl | chris I would have to send you the whole sql file... The patch is more than 999 characters on one line. |
| 23:01 | chris | ahh pull request? |
| 23:02 | * chris_n | was afraid some prefs might not be in the en file |
| 23:03 | chris_n | well, this one will have to wait for 3.2.3 me thinks |
| 23:03 | chris | yup |
| 23:03 | hdl | chris_n indeed... AuthDisplayHierarchy is used in Code. |
| 23:03 | there is a check_syspref.pl which checks that.... | |
| 23:05 | chris_n | my syspref_fix branch is by no means a finished work; only a very hasty start :-P |
| 23:06 | hdl | chris_n: i can send you a perl script which can help... It is not really polished... |
| 23:06 | chris_n | hdl: please send |
| 23:06 | hdl | But for most of the usage it does the job. |
| 23:07 | chris_n | brb |
| 23:07 | hdl | http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]dab3f98c7;hb=HEAD |
| 23:07 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #243: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/243/ |
| 23:07 | * Matthias Meusburger: MT 2446 : Cancel authority edition for a field goes back to this field | |
| 23:07 | * Matthias Meusburger: MT 2310 : New subfield for fields < 10 is now in a tab | |
| 23:07 | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Followup admin/categorie.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Paul Poulain: Removing usage of preferences.pl | |
| 23:07 | hdl | chris_n: here it is ?? |
| 23:07 | hudsonbot | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: MT4009: followup removing systempreferences |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1577) complete langages checkbox for unique id | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for authorised_values.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for branches.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for itemtypes.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : corrects tablesorting for authorised_values and itemtypes | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for categorie.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for cities.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for marctagstructure.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for auth_tag_structure.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : corrects tablesorting for authorised_values.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Stéphane Delaune: (MT #1654) followup : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for branch_transfer_limits.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: branch transfer limits | |
| 23:07 | * Paul Poulain: mybranch not exported (merge pb) | |
| 23:07 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5530: Fixing a link to systempreferences.pl instead of preferences.pl | |
| 23:07 | * Frédéric Demians: Bug 5530 Follow up | |
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| 23:20 | hdl | chris new branch on wip/koha-biblibre.git : wip/sysprefs_translated |
| 23:21 | Would need to reintroduce lost sysprefs. | |
| 23:21 | chris | right, could you update the bug with that info (got swamped with work so will look later) |
| 23:21 | and then go to bed :-) | |
| 23:21 | hdl | But translations are there... And might help stoping the warnings. |
| 23:21 | chris | yes, thank you :) |
| 23:22 | hdl | do you have bug id ? |
| 23:22 | chris | 5531 |
| 23:24 | jwagner | OK, _now_ I'm going to shut down for the evening. Grumble grumble... |
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| 23:26 | hdl | it is there : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5474 |
| 23:26 | munin | 04Bug 5474: major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql |
| 23:27 | chris | and bug 5531 |
| 23:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5531 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Missing sysprefs in language specific files |
| 23:27 | chris | they depend on each other, so either is fine |
| 23:27 | i was doing the language files in 5531 | |
| 23:27 | and hte updatedatabase.pl in 5474 | |
| 23:27 | hdl | edder there. |
| 23:28 | chris | cool thanks |
| 23:28 | hdl | then bed. |
| 23:28 | thanks | |
| 23:32 | hdl left #koha |
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