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00:24 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
00:24 | wizzyrea_ | hey cait :D |
00:25 | are you stucks in the airport? | |
00:25 | cait | in a hotel near the airport without power adapter |
00:25 | not much better | |
00:25 | wizzyrea_ | :/ |
00:26 | yea, that's no fun | |
00:26 | cait | I envy you even more right now :) |
00:27 | jcamins_a | At least it was a large enough airport that there was a hotel nearby. |
00:27 | :) | |
00:27 | wizzyrea_ | Aw, if it makes you feel better we're basically stuck at home for a few hours every day while spud sleeps |
00:27 | jcamins_a | And this is good... it'll give you the opportunity to relax without a computer... right? |
00:27 | cait | I would prefer that ;) |
00:27 | I can't relax without my computer | |
00:28 | chris | wizzyrea_: well you could come round and do my presentation, i already suggested that :) |
00:28 | cait | why would you do such an evil thing? |
00:28 | wizzyrea_ | do you really want me talking about what's in 3.4? |
00:28 | cait | you don't like me? |
00:28 | wizzyrea_ | Because I might say that we're adding a completely web based templating engine |
00:28 | cait | ah, sorry, confused |
00:28 | wizzyrea_ | >.> |
00:29 | jcamins_a | wizzyrea_: heh. Congratulations on your transition to "major template implementor"! |
00:29 | cait | it's been a long day |
00:29 | * wizzyrea_ | dies |
00:29 | chris | hehe |
00:30 | cait | oh no |
00:30 | you killed wizzyrea | |
00:30 | jcamins_a | I just learned something really silly... it turns out when you make ravioli, you're supposed to use *two* layers of pasta. No folding involved. |
00:31 | wizzyrea_ | ...you didn't know that? |
00:31 | * jcamins_a | folded every single ravioli by hand when he tried it last time... no wonder it seemed outrageously slow. |
00:31 | cait | hm found a muffin in my backpack |
00:31 | wizzyrea_ | lay down one sheet, dollops of filling, then another sheet on top |
00:31 | >.> | |
00:32 | jcamins_a | Now you tell me? :P |
00:32 | cait | you haven't asked before |
00:32 | wizzyrea_ | dude. I've been known to make asian dumplings the hard way |
00:32 | jcamins_a | cait: you knew too? |
00:32 | cait | if you feel like folding - you could fold tortellinie |
00:32 | tortellini | |
00:32 | jcamins_a | I _hate_ folding. |
00:33 | cait | of course I knew ;) |
00:33 | imp | jcamins_a: you took the ones from a tin as example? |
00:33 | * cait | is watching to many tv shows about cooking |
00:33 | jcamins_a | imp: no, we don't buy ravioli... probably if we did I would've been more clear about what they looked like. |
00:34 | They're square. | |
00:34 | (you learn something new every day) | |
00:34 | imp | some from tins are folded, some not ;) |
00:36 | cait | ok, have to go, battery low |
00:36 | wizzyrea_ | gl on your trip cait, see you soon! |
00:36 | cait | good night all |
00:36 | chris | gl cait |
00:37 | cait | thx :) |
00:37 | hope to see you soon! | |
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00:50 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
00:55 | darling | robin found some useful language tips for those travelling to nz -- |
00:55 | http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ[…]7f0ae8da0982e.htm | |
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01:03 | * chris_n | watches all of the planes roar off toward NZ-land |
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02:21 | SelfishMa | hmm...the search by author link on the staff side still has a bad link? |
02:22 | The RC still links to "/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=au:" when clicking on an author name | |
02:22 | or am I just on crack? | |
02:23 | jcamins_a | SelfishMa: what is it supposed to do? |
02:24 | SelfishMa | jcamins_a: I assume it would link to search results for that author like the OPAC does |
02:24 | jcamins_a | Oh, I thought you meant it put that before the author's name. |
02:24 | SelfishMa | so basically "/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=au:Milne%2C%20Lorus%20Johnson%2C" |
02:24 | jcamins_a | Works for me. |
02:24 | With XSLT. | |
02:27 | * SelfishMa | mumbles |
02:28 | SelfishMa is now known as bfleming | |
02:28 | bfleming | IRC hates my freedom |
02:29 | jcamins_a | IRC hates your freedom? |
02:32 | bfleming | Yeah, truncating my nick to 9 characters |
02:33 | jcamins_a | Ah. |
02:33 | Yeah, I'm actually jcamins_away | |
02:33 | robin | jcamins_a: it's good that it doesn't show that, as you're not away |
02:34 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
02:34 | jcamins | Yeah, I guess that's true. |
02:35 | Right now I'm writing about the institutionalized racism of Russian Avant-Garde architecture theorists. | |
02:39 | So I'm not so much "away" as "confused." | |
02:39 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_c | |
02:39 | robin | heh |
02:39 | * jcamins_c | is jcamins_confused |
02:40 | thd-away` is now known as thd | |
02:40 | robin | IRC is allowing you your freedom |
02:41 | thd | chris: are you there? |
02:42 | chris | sorta |
02:43 | thd | Is there any reason that the Americas should be first in the list at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide ? |
02:43 | robin | you're right, Oceania should be at the top. |
02:44 | brendan_2 | I think North comes before Asia in the alpha |
02:44 | jcamins_c | brendan_2: still no power at home? |
02:45 | thd | brendan_2: N comes after A in my alphabet |
02:45 | brendan_2 | got it back - just haven't changed brendan_2 to brendan_l |
02:45 | thd: :) | |
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02:46 | Amit | heys chris |
02:46 | chris | nope theres no reason at all |
02:46 | thd | brendan_2: North America should be grouped under Americas but Africa comes before Americas in the Alphabet |
02:46 | robin | But I know chris agrees with me about the position of Oceania. |
02:46 | jcamins_c | thd: we prefer a ROT-13'd alphabets. |
02:46 | robin | jcamins_c: that wouldn't change much :) |
02:47 | brendan_2 | thd: you take all of my comments to seriously - basically what chris said (there's no reasoning behind it) |
02:47 | Amit | heya robin, jcamins_c |
02:47 | robin | Hi |
02:47 | Amit | heya brendan |
02:47 | brendan_2 | I was having some fun ;) |
02:47 | heya amit | |
02:47 | thd | robin: I think that Oceania would certainly come first in an Historical or some other non-neutral arrangement. |
02:48 | robin | I was thinking of ordering them by relative distance from me. That seems objective enough, right? ;) |
02:48 | jcamins_c | Hi, Amit. |
02:49 | thd | robin: Yes, that would be great. You write the MediaWiki extension and I will install it. |
02:50 | robin | I'll get on to that soon... :) |
02:50 | thd | I fixed bugs in two MediaWiki extensions which allowed one to be installed over the weekend. |
02:52 | The top and bottom of each page now have a path of the category tree for each category of a page. | |
02:52 | bfleming | ok, I'm obviously completely on crack |
02:52 | I can't see a single reason why this link isn't working | |
02:53 | robin | thd: cool. I did some mediawiki extensions not too long ago. Reminded me how much I don't enjoy PHP. |
02:54 | bfleming | hmm...figured it out. I'm on crack but that isn't anything new |
02:54 | thd | robin: The difficult part is hooking into the particulars of the MediaWiki code. |
02:55 | robin | yeah, that was just a lot of reading docs and looking at other ones. |
03:04 | http://blog.wlbooks.com/2010/0[…]ile-for-21st.html <-- Weapon of Mass Instruction | |
03:05 | jcamins_c | Awesome! |
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04:15 | robin | hmm. There's been a bug introduced recently that causes problems with staging of marc records. Anyone seen this? |
04:15 | (in master) | |
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07:05 | chris | hi paul_p |
07:05 | in malaysia? | |
07:05 | paul_p | hi chris. |
07:06 | Still in Europe (Amsterdam). France on strike, thank you froggies | |
07:06 | 2hours late in AMS yesterday, and only 1H40 between flights | |
07:06 | chris | ahh at least you made it to amsterdam |
07:06 | so when do you fly out now? | |
07:07 | paul_p | we have a AMS<>KLA at 12. Then a day in KLA, then KLA<>AKL |
07:07 | chris | ah ok |
07:07 | so you get to AKL same time? | |
07:07 | paul_p | we will be in AKL at the time expected, except we will be very tired |
07:07 | chris | just lose time in KLA |
07:07 | ? | |
07:07 | paul_p | yep |
07:07 | chris | annoying |
07:07 | paul_p | (hdl will be less tired than me : with his ticket problem... he won a business class seat) ;-) |
07:08 | chris | wow, lucky! |
07:08 | all the way to AKL? | |
07:08 | you will have to take turns hehe | |
07:08 | paul_p | nope. KLA<>ALK |
07:08 | chris | cait missed her connection too |
07:08 | got stuck in london | |
07:08 | paul_p | because of france on strike ? |
07:09 | chris | not sure why, could be |
07:09 | so she arrives in AKL same day as you now | |
07:11 | so you leave for KLA soon? | |
07:12 | 1.5 hours? | |
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07:50 | cait | morning #koha |
07:50 | chris | heya cait |
07:50 | whens your flight? | |
07:50 | cait | 10 pm |
07:51 | will go to the aiport in... 7 hours | |
07:51 | chris | oh man |
07:51 | cait | tell me |
07:51 | and room service woke me up | |
07:51 | I have to check out at 12, but can charge laptop now | |
07:53 | chris | ahh thats good |
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08:04 | jransom | hola |
08:04 | cait | hi jo |
08:04 | jransom | hey traveller |
08:04 | cait | was reading your mail a minute ago |
08:04 | traveller implies moving, I am not moving :( | |
08:04 | jransom | (trying to remember which one ... ) |
08:04 | stuck where? | |
08:05 | how come you are stuck? | |
08:05 | cait | london still |
08:05 | flight delayed 25 minutes | |
08:05 | and we had to wait to start and wait to land :( | |
08:05 | jransom | thats not long |
08:05 | cait | I had 1:45 between flights, but that was not enough |
08:05 | jransom | just roll with it sunshine - no point getting stressed |
08:06 | thats why you missed connections? | |
08:06 | cait | they have my suitcase and I really hope it will arrive in auckland with me |
08:06 | yes | |
08:06 | jransom | cross fingers |
08:06 | cait | missed my connection to sydney via bangkok |
08:06 | and a lot of other people too | |
08:06 | jransom | we sell undies and deoderant and toothbrushes - you'll be right |
08:06 | cait | I need a bit more than that for 2 weeks ;) |
08:07 | jransom | i spent 5 days in Rome with no luggage once - was wonderful :) |
08:07 | cait | I left my overnight package from the airline at the airport :( |
08:07 | but had some things in my backpack | |
08:07 | jransom | bum |
08:07 | cait | I spend 2 days in st petersburg without luggage once - was not so wonderful |
08:07 | jransom | so you leaving in 25 mins |
08:07 | cold .. | |
08:07 | cait | yep |
08:07 | no | |
08:07 | 10 om | |
08:08 | pm | |
08:08 | jransom | then flying london to hong kong then auckland |
08:08 | cait | same flight than yesterday |
08:08 | jransom | Olegbunga is trying to get that same flight / route in the next few days i think |
08:08 | cait | flight departure is in more than 10 hours |
08:09 | jransom | thats a very long time .... |
08:09 | cait | yeah... and have to check out of the hotel at 12 |
08:09 | better get some breakfast now | |
08:09 | jransom | you are having quite an adventure aren't you :) |
08:10 | cait | HMPF! |
08:10 | I felt adventurous enough before that :) | |
08:11 | jransom | hehe |
08:11 | never - it'll be ok in the end - always is | |
08:11 | cait | as long as I don't miss you in auckland I will be fine |
08:11 | chris: have you seen magnus? | |
08:12 | chris | last time i saw him was him boarding his flight from london |
08:12 | cait | oh, he was here... |
08:12 | in time | |
08:12 | chris | yep |
08:12 | so i think he is in SFO now | |
08:12 | jransom | Paul and henri-Damien on the move yet? |
08:12 | chris | yes, should be boarding now |
08:13 | jransom | oh its getting so exciting now :) |
08:13 | Lee arrived today | |
08:14 | cait | *sniffs* |
08:15 | will try to get some breakfast | |
08:15 | see you later | |
08:16 | chris | cya later |
08:16 | jransom | cya babe |
08:16 | chin up :) | |
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08:22 | jransom | we need a visualization showing all the people enroute to KohaCon10 |
08:40 | braedon | track them all on gps :P |
08:40 | most will have smartphones right? | |
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08:49 | Elwell | but not necessarily using roaming data... |
08:49 | chris | and cait doesnt |
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08:54 | cait | back |
08:54 | chris | :) |
08:55 | jransom | that was fast |
08:57 | slef | jransom: plot me in hk, quick through transit (~35m) now with free wifi |
08:57 | jransom | slef: I didn't say i was clever enough to do it! |
08:57 | chris | no delays for you? |
08:57 | jransom | good trip so far? |
08:57 | chris | at this rate, you will be the forth one here |
08:58 | slef | late off from lhr, made up with tailwind |
08:58 | jransom | well you must be the only one running to time |
08:58 | chris | liz has been here since sunday, lee arrived today, magnus tomorrow |
08:58 | slef | I think magnus is before us. |
08:58 | aye, then us | |
08:58 | chris | yep |
08:58 | all the ppl who didnt get mucked up | |
08:59 | slef | sorry - wifi isn't quick, or hk-uk or summat |
08:59 | who's mucked? | |
08:59 | * slef | scrolls back |
08:59 | jransom | he gets in at 8.40 - you guys at 10 |
08:59 | chris | cait is still in london |
08:59 | slef | awww |
08:59 | chris | and paul and hdl just took off for malaysia now |
08:59 | jransom | runing about 24 hrs late |
08:59 | chris | nicole has just started her trip |
09:00 | her, ian, and brian arrive in wellington on friday | |
09:00 | cait | *sniffs again* |
09:00 | jransom | lol |
09:00 | poor Cait | |
09:02 | daniel and cait get in within 20 mins of each other on the 22nd | |
09:02 | if cait *ever* gets here ... | |
09:02 | cait | hey! |
09:02 | slef | cait: I think lhr wifi is like gbp10/24h |
09:02 | jransom | :) |
09:03 | cait | slef? |
09:03 | chris | same cost as hotel then |
09:04 | cait | ah |
09:04 | slef | judst trying to be helpful from when I was there |
09:04 | cait | yes, 5gbp 1 hour , 10 gbp 24 hours |
09:04 | but the real problem was the power | |
09:04 | slef | I know it was dear enough I decided 3g was cheaper |
09:04 | # london sucks like a vacuum, do... | |
09:05 | cait | my adapter is missing one pin so I was not able to plug in :( got an adapter from the reception now |
09:05 | but I hope the battery of my cell phone will survive until I arrive | |
09:05 | I have the cable in my suitcase ... which is... not here | |
09:06 | slef | hrm, got to queue |
09:07 | cait | good luck |
09:08 | slef | ta, you too |
09:08 | jransom | happy travelling |
09:08 | (sends waves to sarah too) | |
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09:43 | jransom | chris: you got that photo of daniel somewhere? |
09:44 | he and cait willbe in sydney departure lounge together - they arrive 10 mins apart | |
09:44 | but don't know each other :) | |
09:44 | chris | its on flickr |
09:44 | ill try to find it again | |
09:44 | jransom | (good thing i am reconciling allthe arrival info) |
09:45 | cait | jransom++ |
09:45 | jransom | brooke is coming in from oz too |
09:45 | but i dont know which airport | |
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09:47 | CGI008 | hi everyone |
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09:47 | chris | http://www.flickr.com/photos/3[…]6@N03/3471059718/ |
09:48 | larsw | chris, yay |
09:48 | jransom | there you go Cait |
09:48 | chris | heya larsw :) |
09:49 | cait | thx chris and jo :) |
09:49 | you are great | |
09:49 | jransom | no worries |
09:49 | well i really really do have to go to bed now | |
09:49 | happy travelling and we'll see you on Friday our time :) | |
09:50 | cait | ok |
09:50 | good night :) | |
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09:57 | cait | empathy-- |
09:57 | chris | what did it do? |
09:57 | cait | a lot of things |
09:57 | but know it closed the window where jo posted the email address for me | |
09:57 | chris | ahh |
09:58 | cait | know = now |
09:58 | chris | i use pidgin, havent used empathy for ages |
09:58 | well for irc i use irssi, but pidgin for xmpp | |
09:58 | cait | I will go back to using pidgn |
09:59 | I am only using empathy because it was already installed | |
09:59 | chris | *nod* |
09:59 | cait | the messages look not so nice too and you can't show the date and time at the beginning of a message |
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10:04 | cait1 | ah, this is better |
10:04 | pidgin++ :) | |
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10:19 | cait1 | ok, time for check-out |
10:19 | bye all :) | |
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10:22 | * chris | heads to sleep |
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12:21 | owen | Hello #koha, those of us remaining... |
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12:45 | braedon | hey owen |
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12:46 | owen | I suppose #koha must have been this quiet when we were all in Plano last year |
12:47 | braedon | you not heading out this year? |
12:47 | owen | No, can't afford it unfortunately |
12:48 | braedon | :( |
12:48 | owen | well, I could afford it for myself, but not for the wife and 3 kids who would be mad to be left behind :) |
12:48 | braedon | ah |
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12:58 | wasabi | !tw test test |
12:58 | * kcon10bot | <wasabi> tweet sent to #kohacon10 |
12:58 | owen | See, even robots get to go to KohaCon and I don't! |
12:58 | braedon | working :P |
12:58 | wasabi | w00t |
12:59 | * braedon | was wondering what that kohacon10_irc was on the feed |
12:59 | braedon | don't worry owen, you are not alone |
12:59 | * braedon | is in New Zealand and he still doesn't get to go |
13:00 | wasabi | ive been playing with pipsqueek and net::twitter recently.. |
13:00 | braedon | filthy exams grumble grumble |
13:00 | owen | Bummer, braedon |
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13:00 | owen | If only I'd seen this sooner: http://telstarlogistics.typepa[…]ntainer-ship.html |
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13:01 | jcamins | good morning, #koha |
13:01 | braedon | 'mornin |
13:01 | jcamins | braedon: shouldn't you be asleep? |
13:01 | braedon | probably |
13:01 | meh, only 2:13 | |
13:01 | still early | |
13:02 | wasabi | nice foto-feed own |
13:02 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/t[…]2157594321811323/ | |
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13:10 | braedon | owen: sounds awesome - i'ld give it a go, if only they had internet :P |
13:10 | wasabi | its vey micheal-palin, around the world |
13:12 | i wnder how much the cost is for the ship... | |
13:12 | fr the *voyage* on the ship ;) | |
13:16 | braedon | not thinking of starting up your own shipping company wasabi? :P |
13:17 | wasabi | not ever! |
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13:29 | * braedon | gives into jcamins' notions of "should" and heads to bed |
13:29 | jcamins | Good night, braedon. |
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14:06 | jcamins | Any jQuery experts here? |
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14:08 | owen | I can try to help, jcamins |
14:08 | jcamins | I need to replace the "Copies available for loan" on the OPAC search results with "Copies available," and I know it can be done in jQuery. |
14:09 | I'm confused because the text is in a <b/> tag, not the <span/> tag with the class name. | |
14:11 | owen | $(".available b:contains('Copies available for loan')").text("Foo: "); |
14:11 | jcamins | Awesome! Thanks! |
14:11 | owen++ | |
14:12 | owen | You have to brute-force that one with ":contains()" because there's no unique identifier |
14:12 | I always assume there is a performance hit for that kind of selecting, but I've never benchmarked it | |
14:13 | jwagner | I think owen helped me with this version: $("span:contains('No copies available')").replaceWith("Available Online."); |
14:15 | jcamins | Oh... I guess we could've just used jQuery instead of modifying the stylesheets. |
14:18 | (to change the Availability display) | |
14:19 | Wait, no we couldn't. It would've needed to pull data out of the MARC. | |
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15:30 | Brendan-O | morning |
15:31 | jcamins | Morning. |
15:32 | I guess the proper way to deaccession in Koha is to create an item record and mark the item as withdrawn? | |
15:36 | Oak | \o |
15:36 | owen | How do you define deaccession jcamins ? |
15:36 | jcamins | owen: traditionally we don't. |
15:37 | owen | we just delete stuff, so I've always been curious what people used the withdrawn status for |
15:37 | jcamins | In principle it was supposed to be possible to delete a record, but no one could, so that's what I was thinking we'd do, but then I noticed the withdrawn status. |
15:38 | (that it is, it was supposed to be possible with the old system, but wasn't; then, I thought we'd actually do it since it's possible with Koha; then, I noticed the withdrawn status) | |
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15:44 | jcamins | We're just going to continue deleting records when we deaccession. |
15:44 | Withdrawn is kind of ugly. | |
15:48 | owen | Yeah I'm not sure the withdrawn status is very well defined |
15:50 | jcamins | I think maybe NEKLS uses withdrawn? |
15:52 | How can you tell if you're looking at a Koha install or an LEK install? | |
15:53 | owen | I don't know that you can, especially not in the OPAC |
15:55 | jcamins | Oh well. It was just idle curiosity, anyway. |
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16:02 | Sharon | nope |
16:02 | we just delete | |
16:02 | wait, mickey says we do use withdrawn. | |
16:02 | not consistently used | |
16:04 | we need to have a "how do you weed in Koha" discussion with our users group | |
16:06 | owen | I could see a workflow where users who didn't have delete privileges used withdrawn to mark items for withdrawn, then later someone else deleted |
16:07 | Sharon | possibly - usually the librarian/director is doing the weeding though. |
16:09 | jcamins | NEKLS++ # my first day on an internship at a library I had never been to before, the librarian gave me a razorblade and told me to weed a section, removing the barcode and titlepage from each book I weeded |
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16:34 | Sharon | that's scary. I did a massive weeding at my first library and botched it. didn't know the collection well enough, but we were migrating and I had to do it. Still cringe when I think of the Art History books I sold |
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16:51 | sekjal | greetings from the Road to KohaCon! |
16:51 | Brendan-O | heya sekjal |
16:52 | rhcl | Greetings both! |
16:54 | sekjal | currently in Philly, waiting for the next leg to LAX. |
16:56 | * jcamins | is jealous |
16:59 | sekjal | hope I've got enough battery for the leg after that... |
17:01 | jcamins | sekjal: I think there are outlets behind the potted plants in the PHL terminals. |
17:02 | I don't remember which gate I was at, though. | |
17:05 | * collum | thinks Airplane seats need usb charging connections. Probably already invented. |
17:05 | sekjal | i've got charge in PHL, and USB at my seat from LAX to Sydney |
17:06 | jcamins | Wow! |
17:06 | That's amazing! | |
17:06 | schuster | That's why I always carried 2 extra batteries! |
17:07 | sekjal | bought an extra laptop battery yesterday |
17:07 | schuster | Weeding discussion that what we do. I have the librarians put them into withdrawn - and then once a year at the end of a couple of days I use the batch delete option. |
17:07 | sekjal | no AC power on the flight down under unless you go Premium Economy or higher |
17:08 | jcamins | schuster: that makes sense. |
17:08 | schuster | I dropped probably 60,000 items in August. My next question though is how can I get a report of bibs without items so I can delete the bibs. |
17:08 | I bet there is a report on the report wikis | |
17:08 | jcamins | schuster: yeah, I think so. |
17:08 | schuster: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rds_without_items | |
17:11 | Written by someone currently on a plane NZ-bound. | |
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17:29 | chris_n | skejal: perhaps a solar adapter would respond to the reading light next to your seat on the plane... |
17:29 | ;-) | |
17:29 | @wunder 28334 | |
17:29 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.2�C (1:37 PM EDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Falling). |
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17:32 | sekjal | i was thinking a small set of bicycle pedals. i could get a workout while i work! |
17:32 | chris_n | lol! |
17:32 | jcamins | sekjal: just so long as they're not squeaky... that would get pretty annoying to your seatmates. |
17:33 | * chris_n | contemplates the possibility of having exercise bikes drive generators as a way of making fitness programs assist in "clean" power generation |
17:33 | * jcamins | thinks he'd be much more likely to work out if it reduced his electric bill. |
17:34 | sekjal | i could consider all the snacks i brought as extra battery power |
17:34 | chris_n | project title: "From Kilo-calories to Kilowatts" |
17:35 | jcamins | Heh. |
17:35 | sekjal | I've thought of putting a treadmill in my office... |
17:35 | jcamins | sekjal: but that requires power. |
17:35 | chris_n | build a gym adjoining your data center and you'll have people paying to help reduce you power bill |
17:35 | jcamins | I like the exercise bike idea better. |
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17:40 | jcamins | Anyway, isn't bug fixing like being on a treadmill already? |
17:42 | chris_n | only in that it takes many snacks to keep one coming back for more |
17:42 | collum | I mounted a TV to the wall adjacent to our treadmill because the wife and kids said it was too boring to work out. It was used for 3 days. It is now the most unused TV in our home. |
17:45 | sekjal | yeah, Id have to reverse something in the treadmill, and have it power the house's battery backup |
17:46 | jcamins | I've been pronouncing Koha wrong |
17:46 | ! | |
17:47 | sekjal: that would be bad for your knees, though. | |
17:49 | owen | jcamins: You're not pronouncing it wrong |
17:49 | jcamins | Well, not on IRC. |
17:50 | owen | That phonetic description is misleading |
17:50 | chris_n | hehe |
17:50 | jcamins | I've been pronouncing it kO-ha. |
17:50 | owen | That's correct |
17:50 | jcamins | Oh. |
17:50 | chris_n | its all in the vowels I think |
17:51 | * chris_n | thinks FF should recover gracefully when one tab crashes |
17:52 | chris_n | having a separate process per tab might help |
17:53 | chris | http://www.korero.maori.nz/for[…]ronunciation.html |
17:53 | click on the vowels to hear how to pronounce them | |
17:56 | jcamins | Those transliterations are with an NZ accent, aren't they? Because when I pronounce "awful" or "pork," I get a sound completely different from their example. |
17:56 | sekjal | thank you, chris. i've been reading that book you recommended, and would like to be able to actually speak about what I read. |
17:57 | my pronounciation is usually not so good, sadly | |
17:57 | chris | yeah, just click on the letters to hear them, its much easier than trying to write |
17:57 | if you can speak spanish, or japanese ... its the exact same vowel sounds | |
17:58 | (same with hawaian, samoan, cook island, tongan etc) | |
17:58 | and baring wh and ng | |
17:59 | the rest of the letters are the same as english | |
17:59 | chris_n | chris: the audio pronunciations are of long vowels? |
17:59 | chris | whare = house in maori, fale = house in samoan ... now with a rolled r, and wh =f ... thats pretty much the same sound |
18:00 | sekjal | chris: i spoke Japanese. that'll help |
18:00 | chris | they were both not written languages tho, so you can blame the fact one has an f one has a wh on the weirdos who wrote them down first |
18:01 | chris_n: yep, same sound but shorter | |
18:01 | chris_n | right |
18:01 | chris | long vowel has a macron on it |
18:01 | chris_n | and the 'o' in Koha is short? |
18:01 | chris | both are |
18:01 | Māori | |
18:01 | long a | |
18:02 | chris_n | so the 'ao' there is not a diphthong? |
18:02 | chris | core ha |
18:02 | ao = ow (ish) | |
18:03 | so no, just the sounds run together | |
18:03 | chris_n | where's the accent in Koha? |
18:03 | collum | chris_n beats me to the question |
18:03 | chris | KoHa |
18:04 | * chris_n | thinks some audio pronunciations of the koha-related Maori terms on the website would be very cool |
18:04 | * jcamins | agrees |
18:04 | * collum | agrees as well |
18:05 | chris | http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]nd/tereo/koha.mp3 |
18:05 | http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]d/tereo/tiaki.mp3 | |
18:06 | http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/fi[…]und/tereo/kai.mp3 | |
18:06 | combine the last two for kaitiaki | |
18:08 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjp8M6XH4c | |
18:08 | and because everyone should see this | |
18:08 | :) | |
18:10 | and then this | |
18:10 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PcmHqwP7Ow <--- the nz maori rugby team | |
18:13 | * chris | stops forcing his culture on people now hehe |
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18:15 | * chris_n | loves linguistics |
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18:24 | sekjal | still another hour until i board the next flight... |
18:24 | jcamins | chris: what on earth am I watching? |
18:24 | (I don't have speakers, maybe it would make sense if I did) | |
18:31 | chris | Yep you need speakers |
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18:32 | chris_n | heya wizzyrea_ |
18:32 | wizzyrea_ | hey chris_n :) |
18:32 | chris_n | how's nz? |
18:33 | wizzyrea_ | beautiful, chilly, wonderfully aromatic :) |
18:33 | chris_n | nice |
18:33 | chris | Should be a nice day today |
18:33 | * wizzyrea_ | is from kansas where it smells like dirt and cow poo and exhaust |
18:33 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
18:33 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
18:34 | wizzyrea_ | oooh, yea, that's most of the way towards "warmish" |
18:35 | chris | What's on the cards for today? |
18:36 | wizzyrea_ | either some sort of wellington tour, or a boat ride |
18:39 | chris | Cool |
18:42 | The wellington rover thing is supposed to be good | |
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18:47 | * jwagner | is feeling overjoyed, qualmish, and frantically busy. |
18:48 | jwagner | Guess who's coming to Kohacon??? |
18:48 | jcamins | Not me. :( |
18:49 | But, hooray for jwagner! :) | |
18:49 | jwagner | Two days notice to pack & get everything ready.... |
18:50 | chris | What day do you arrive? |
18:50 | jwagner | Probably Sunday |
18:51 | wizzyrea_ | jane! thats so cool! |
18:52 | sekjal | jwagner: wow, that's last minute! but as my wife pointed out to me, you really only need a couple things to get there (passport, wallet, etc). the rest is just gravy |
18:52 | jwagner | Clean clothes would be nice too. |
18:53 | Gotta run for a conference call -- back in a while. | |
18:53 | wizzyrea_ | the place I'm staying has a washer in our room |
18:53 | clothes washer | |
18:53 | which is SUPER EPIC | |
18:53 | * jwagner | makes a note of that! |
18:53 | sekjal | see you in a couple days, jwagner! |
18:53 | jwagner | And where are you staying? |
18:53 | wizzyrea_ | Quest Wellington |
18:54 | it's a short walk from the conference center, and there's probably a bus (I haven't mastered the fu of the bus yet, but getting better) | |
18:54 | jwagner | I've got to find a room, preferably as close as possible because I can't walk very much. chris suggested a couple of places -- will track them down after my call. Any other suggestions are welcome :-) |
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18:55 | chris | Nomad or west plaza are the closest |
18:57 | Yeah there is a bus from quest | |
18:57 | Drops off right by conf centre | |
18:58 | Just say 1 zone when you get on | |
18:58 | Will be 2 dollars | |
18:59 | sekjal | ok, time to find my gate. cheers, all! |
19:00 | * chris_n | waves to sekjal |
19:00 | wanders off to swap a tape | |
19:01 | chris | Safe travels |
19:03 | wizzyrea_: any bus going past the stop near you | |
19:03 | Will getcha there | |
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19:12 | chris | Man this bus is slow as hell |
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19:35 | chris | right at my desk now |
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19:36 | richard | hiya chris |
19:36 | chris | heya richard |
19:37 | owen | did you always work from home before Catalyst chris? |
19:37 | chris | before liblime |
19:37 | yes | |
19:37 | from 1997 to 2007 at katipo | |
19:37 | worked from home | |
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19:40 | chris | why? |
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19:42 | owen | I wondered if working outside home is a big change |
19:42 | chris | ahh it was, but not anymore :) |
19:42 | * owen | sees lots of benefits to working around other people... bug IRC does a pretty good job of simulating that |
19:42 | owen | s/bug/but |
19:43 | jcamins | owen: thinking of starting to telecommute? |
19:44 | mib_o3g43 | NCAR Library here...curious about batch item deletion. Found it in Tools...but I don't like the barcode approach. |
19:44 | owen | I may work around other people now, but none of them are doing the same thing I do |
19:44 | mib_o3g43 | Is there some other method? |
19:44 | owen | mib_o3g43: What would you prefer? |
19:45 | jcamins | owen: wait, you mean there are places where your coworkers do the same sorts of things you do? |
19:45 | mib_o3g43 | Search the catalog and choose from results...then delete what I want. |
19:46 | perhaps it's a scripting chore | |
19:46 | owen | mib_o3g43: It would be nice to integrate the Cart into the bulk modify/delete operations |
19:46 | mib_o3g43 | yes! the cart! |
19:46 | chris | mib_o3g43: you could generate the barcode list from the reports module |
19:46 | mib_o3g43 | good idea |
19:46 | owen | ...except the Cart is biblio-level and those operations are item-level |
19:47 | chris | with some sql |
19:47 | mib_o3g43 | right, i see. |
19:47 | chris | thats how some libraries are using it |
19:47 | mib_o3g43 | so, which report would give me a list of barcodes |
19:47 | or call numbers | |
19:47 | owen | mib_o3g43: The better question is what report would give you just the items you wanted |
19:48 | What are your criteria? Are they something that could be returned via SQL? | |
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19:48 | mib_o3g43 | actually, in this specific case, I'd like to delete entire bib records, not just items. |
19:49 | all of these (43) items have a title of "Required Field" | |
19:49 | er, records, not items. | |
19:52 | owen | Part of the problem mib_o3g43 is that deleting the items will only get you part of the way there |
19:52 | There's no bulk delete biblio function at the moment | |
19:52 | mib_o3g43 | i see. ok |
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19:54 | mib_o3g43 | Can biblios be bulk deleted from the back end, with scripts? |
19:54 | owen | At least by using the Cart you could consolidate your list to make manual deletion easier |
19:54 | mib_o3g43 | right, yes |
19:54 | owen | Hi jransom |
19:54 | jransom | hiya all |
19:55 | chris | mib_o3g43: there will be a bulk biblio delete early on in the dev cycle for 3.4 |
19:55 | its been written, but didnt make the freeze for 3.2 | |
19:55 | hiya jransom | |
19:55 | jcamins | chris: awesome! I didn't know that. |
19:55 | jransom | hiya |
19:55 | chris | jcamins: bulk modify too |
19:55 | jcamins | Hello, jransom. How go your conference preparations? |
19:55 | mib_o3g43 | awesome. |
19:55 | chris | jcamins: its in the pile of biblibre stuff |
19:56 | paul and hdl are staying on for some days after conference | |
19:56 | mib_o3g43 | signing off now...thanks for your help. |
19:56 | jransom | on the edge of panic and despair :) |
19:56 | chris | and we will work on creating branches are rebasing etc, getting it all ready |
19:56 | putting into practice what we learnt at the dev confernce | |
19:56 | jcamins | jransom: wonderful, that means the conference is going to be a brilliant success. :) |
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19:56 | jransom | lol |
19:56 | chris | if people make it ! |
19:56 | jransom | yes - yes indeed |
19:57 | yeah - how is that going ? | |
19:57 | chris | jransom: have you heard anything from olugbenga? |
19:57 | jransom | has Cait boarded yet? |
19:57 | chris: nothing | |
19:57 | chris | 42 mins |
19:57 | nengard is in LA | |
19:57 | jransom | Lee has checked in |
19:57 | chris | sekjal is on the way |
19:57 | yeah, ive been talking with lee | |
19:57 | jransom | and MJ and Sarah and Magnus can't be far away |
19:57 | andother hour or so | |
19:57 | chris | shes done the art museum and auckland library |
19:58 | i think yeah 10ish for magnus | |
19:58 | jransom | oh cool :) |
19:58 | yep | |
19:58 | we have 7 ariving tomorrow spread over 4 hours | |
19:58 | chris | heh |
19:59 | Sharon | Glad Liz went early |
19:59 | jransom | not sure how to manage that coz i'd like to meet everyone but in all conscience can't make the early ones wait around for 3 hours after such long trips |
19:59 | chris | whos that? |
19:59 | jransom | wizzyrea |
19:59 | chris | no who are the 7 |
19:59 | daniel, brooke, cait ... | |
19:59 | jransom | sharon: yep - especially given the drama some folk are dealing with |
20:00 | paul henroi damien | |
20:00 | Sharon | she's an organized type person |
20:00 | chris | jransom: theres a bar there :) |
20:00 | jransom | rosa and me |
20:00 | Sharon | with a 2 year old ;-) |
20:00 | jransom | there is indeed |
20:00 | chris | ahh right, i forgot rosa |
20:00 | jransom | oh that 2 year old is the perfect child |
20:00 | chris | yeah hes awesome |
20:00 | i now dont want to let them meet my two | |
20:01 | jransom | at tea the other tnight the waitress deleivered this massive chocolate icecream sundae to him by mistake and his eyes were like saucers - sheer delight on his face |
20:01 | chris | punchy mc hitty, and spazzy mc spaz spaz |
20:01 | jransom | and then she took it away!! |
20:01 | he didn't say a word | |
20:01 | chris | kahu would have said "why dont you like me?" |
20:01 | jransom | my kids are punchy mc hitty II and III and IV and V then |
20:01 | chris | atarau would have cried |
20:02 | did i tell you he made a nurse cry? | |
20:02 | jransom | i gave him my lotto man keyring with the led light in his foot (you push his tummy) and he held up to his face beaming and said "I love it" |
20:02 | chris | nurse: i have to take another blood test, it will only hurt a little |
20:02 | kahu: crying "why dont you like me?" | |
20:02 | jransom | no you didn't - poor nurse |
20:03 | chris | jransom: yeah spud is cute as hell |
20:03 | darling, robin and I took them for ice cream after lunch on monday | |
20:04 | jransom | right. i need to stop avoiding all the stuff i'm moaning about and just do it |
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20:04 | jransom | cya Owen |
20:04 | chris | yeah i should actually write my presentation at some point |
20:04 | jransom | rosalie is freaking out about hers to |
20:04 | chris | she'll be fine |
20:04 | shes always awesome | |
20:04 | jransom | agreeing to speak for 20 and then being given an hour was a bit a bit of shock |
20:04 | she will be - I know | |
20:05 | chris | well, she only needs to use 40 of that |
20:05 | theres no points for finishing bang on time :) | |
20:05 | jransom | yep - i'll tell herthat today. |
20:05 | hey she thinking of playing a short video clip | |
20:05 | will there be a sound system | |
20:05 | chris | yes |
20:05 | jransom | great |
20:05 | chris | we have a mixing desk |
20:05 | Sharon | can never have too much networking time |
20:05 | chris | and the audio from that goes direct into the camera |
20:05 | jransom | yep - agreed |
20:06 | chris | yeah |
20:06 | the talking/questions after is the best bit | |
20:06 | jransom | i havn't had an invoice yet for the projector screen |
20:06 | chris | yay free! |
20:06 | :) | |
20:06 | jransom | but i'm guessing that will sort outon the day :) |
20:06 | chris | yeah |
20:06 | we are packing in on sunday arvo | |
20:08 | oh hey look at this | |
20:08 | http://kohacon10.mykoha.co.nz/[…]l?biblionumber=76 | |
20:08 | you are a marc record now jo | |
20:09 | thats how we are doing registration, issuing you guys out :-) | |
20:09 | jransom | i just snorted |
20:10 | that is very silly and geeky and kinda fun | |
20:10 | but definitely great silliness | |
20:10 | chris | barcodes on your name tags |
20:10 | jransom | would you like me to scan my face as a 'cover' |
20:10 | chris | using an app darling wrote for android phones |
20:10 | plus koha circulation | |
20:10 | jransom | do a pgotocopier / scanner faceplant? |
20:10 | chris | heh |
20:10 | jransom | is he/she really called darling |
20:11 | or are you taking the piss | |
20:12 | jcamins | Aww. |
20:12 | I was hoping to check Chris Cormack out. :( | |
20:12 | jransom | lol |
20:12 | you can - defionitely can check chris out | |
20:13 | and people who arrive late on day 2 will be 'overdue' | |
20:13 | and have to pay a beer-fund fine :) | |
20:15 | chris | he is called reed |
20:15 | but darling on irc | |
20:15 | jransom: oohhh what a good idea | |
20:16 | jransom | i may call him Reed darling then :) |
20:17 | and 'check him out' | |
20:17 | chris | heh yeah he is in there |
20:17 | hmm lemme see if i can change that logo easy | |
20:17 | jransom | what about 'damaged on return' - for fter a big night |
20:17 | chris | yeah can do that |
20:17 | lost too | |
20:17 | for wizzyrea | |
20:17 | jransom | must stop playing |
20:17 | lost | |
20:17 | chris | shes done that a couple of times |
20:18 | jransom | 'did not arrive' for cait |
20:18 | chris | in transit |
20:18 | start a transfer :) | |
20:19 | jransom | i like the tranfer! |
20:20 | darling | helo |
20:20 | darling left #koha | |
20:20 | jwag_mtg is now known as jwagner | |
20:21 | Sharon | that's funny |
20:22 | chris | right meeting |
20:22 | http://kohacon10.mykoha.co.nz/[…]koha/opac-main.pl | |
20:22 | sorta | |
20:22 | bbiab | |
20:33 | jcamins | Time to close up for today. |
20:33 | Good night, #koha | |
20:34 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
20:40 | Brendan-O | @wunder 93117 |
20:40 | munin | Brendan-O: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.2�C (1:51 PM PDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). |
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21:49 | jransom | learnt something new today: "Koha is one of the largest open-source teams in the world, and is in the top 2% of all project teams on Ohloh. " |
21:51 | chris | pretty cool eh |
21:51 | if we get some new committers at kohacon it will go up even more :) | |
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21:59 | jransom | Daniel is alive and well - in NZ |
21:59 | just spoke to him: I feel like a mother hen worrying about her chicks until they are safely arrived | |
21:59 | chris | excellent, did you get a txt? |
21:59 | cool | |
21:59 | jransom | a phone call |
21:59 | he is slumming it on waiheke | |
21:59 | chris | awesome |
21:59 | oh | |
21:59 | jransom | :) |
22:00 | chris | lee is there |
22:00 | somewhere | |
22:00 | jransom | she in aauckland isn't she? |
22:00 | chris | doing a tour of waiheke today |
22:00 | jransom | arranging to meet at the president Hotel bar at 5pm tomorrow night |
22:00 | chris | sweet |
22:00 | jransom | he has a friend who lives there - so staying there |
22:01 | chris | handy |
22:01 | rhcl | did the guy from Africa get through? (can't find his name now) |
22:01 | chris | havent heard from him today |
22:01 | jransom | olugbenga - i havnt heard |
22:01 | chris | im hoping so |
22:01 | jransom | if he gets he he will knackered and bankrupt :( |
22:01 | knackered = exhausted (for non-kiwi speakers :) | |
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22:02 | rhcl | ah, I was just heading for my maori translator |
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22:02 | chris | si my man |
22:03 | jransom | hello Si |
22:03 | chris | rhcl: comes from horse racing |
22:03 | rhcl | ah, wasn't aware the maori were big into horse racing |
22:03 | chris | its an english word :) |
22:03 | rhcl | ah ah |
22:03 | icic | |
22:04 | chris | no c in maori :) |
22:04 | or d | |
22:04 | si | hey |
22:04 | jransom | they were huge into horse racing |
22:04 | chris | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knacker |
22:04 | si: i was gonna pester you about cafenet tokens again ;) | |
22:05 | si | I had that waking up with a start at 2am thing this morning |
22:05 | masonj | morning, sorry about the #kcon twitter spamming last nite |
22:05 | si | "faaark, I havne't got tokens for Chris" |
22:05 | chris | heh |
22:05 | masonj | heya si |
22:05 | chris | masonj: cleared it out |
22:05 | masonj | ta, saw that.. |
22:06 | forgot to change the #hashtag... | |
22:06 | chris | well it was the username again :) |
22:06 | masonj | aaah, username.* ? ;) |
22:07 | i was 'kohacon10-irc' user | |
22:07 | chris | yep |
22:07 | kohacon10 matched | |
22:07 | masonj | me learns... |
22:07 | gotcha | |
22:08 | si | hey mason |
22:12 | jransom | Chris: Rosalie cannot get her powerpoint slideshow with soundtrack to play the sound in open office |
22:12 | does this sound odd to you? | |
22:12 | chris | nothing that powerpoint does sounds odd to me |
22:12 | what is the format of the audio? | |
22:13 | jransom | will find out. |
22:13 | i haver told them that we will not have powepoint available | |
22:13 | si | chris was it 100 or 150 tokens? |
22:14 | jransom | they can save it presumably as a stand alone play CD (requiring no software) |
22:15 | chris | there are 107 attendees at this point, 100 would do i reckon, its unlikely all of them will have wifi devices |
22:16 | orly, i bet it still needs windows | |
22:16 | jransom | yep - bet you are right. i will go and help |
22:16 | if push came to shove could i plaug my windows lappy into the system? | |
22:16 | chris | if push comes to shove and cant get it to work |
22:16 | yeah | |
22:17 | it works with your project eh? | |
22:17 | projector even | |
22:18 | jransom | yep |
22:19 | chris | yeah, then dont spend too much time, if its not a simple fix we'll just do that |
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22:40 | bankhead | quit |
22:40 | chris | no |
22:40 | :-) | |
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23:16 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
23:41 | chris | si: got the email, but without an attachment :) |
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