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| 00:57 | chris | you're up late joetho |
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| 00:57 | chris | heya irma |
| 00:58 | cait | hi irma |
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| 00:58 | chris | cait!! dont you ever sleep? |
| 00:59 | slef | sleep... now there's an idea. |
| 00:59 | bbl | |
| 00:59 | chris | cya slef |
| 01:09 | cait | chris: i could ask you the same :) |
| 01:09 | good night slef | |
| 01:09 | chris | heh |
| 01:09 | cait | see you soon |
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| 01:12 | cait1 | I made some progess with packing :) |
| 01:12 | chris | cool :) |
| 01:15 | cait1 | about time |
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| 01:16 | cait1 | now it is not tomorrow, but today |
| 01:16 | today I will fly to nz | |
| 01:16 | and it's partly your fault chris :) | |
| 01:16 | chris | :) |
| 01:18 | cait1 | ok, now time to get some sleep :) |
| 01:18 | good night all :) | |
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| 02:57 | Amit | heya chris |
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| 03:06 | Oak | \o |
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| 07:09 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:09 | D-0 | |
| 07:11 | chris | How many hours? |
| 07:15 | cait | not enough |
| 07:16 | 4.5 until I close the door of my apartment behind me :) | |
| 07:18 | chris | :) |
| 07:34 | francharb | JE PETE UN CABLE |
| 07:50 | oups sorry | |
| 07:50 | no big deal | |
| 07:50 | :) | |
| 08:12 | slef | cait: AAAAAARGH :) |
| 08:13 | cait | AAARG! |
| 08:13 | ;) | |
| 08:13 | * cait | is still packing |
| 08:13 | * slef | too |
| 08:16 | cait | when do you have to leave? |
| 08:20 | slef | after lunch |
| 08:20 | ****ing airport is near London, three counties away | |
| 08:25 | I've a decided suspicion that I'm going to be configuring my computers for remote access after I start travelling. Again. :-/ | |
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| 08:37 | cait | @wunder auckland |
| 08:37 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 13.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:37 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:37 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.8�C (10:48 AM CEST on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:37 | * cait | looks forward to a bit warmer temperatures :) |
| 08:37 | cait | @wunder wellington nz |
| 08:37 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:38 | cait | @wunder zürich |
| 08:38 | munin | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:38 | cait | @wunder zurich |
| 08:38 | munin | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:49 | chris | oh cool olubenga is staying for the developer conference too |
| 08:49 | and the guys from the solomon islands | |
| 08:50 | cait | :) |
| 08:50 | how many people are at the dev conf? | |
| 08:51 | chris | i thinki about 26 |
| 08:53 | i reckon for a 105 person conference we have the most diverse audience, people from all over the world | |
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| 09:04 | cait | :) |
| 09:04 | * cait | hopes that suitcase is not too heavy |
| 09:04 | cait | and the old laptop weighs a lot :( |
| 09:04 | wasabi | heya cait |
| 09:04 | cait | hi wasabi |
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| 09:25 | chris | hi hdl, off to the airport soon? |
| 09:25 | hdl | hi chris at the airport now |
| 09:26 | chris | ahh i hope the strike isnt messing thigns up? |
| 09:27 | hdl | We really do our best to avoid strikes. |
| 09:28 | chris | flights all still on time? |
| 09:28 | hdl | well, we have 3 hours to wait in Amsterdam |
| 09:28 | Before taking of to kuala Lumpur. | |
| 09:29 | many many cancelled. | |
| 09:29 | wasabi | heya hdl |
| 09:29 | hdl | Hi Mason |
| 09:30 | wasabi | ive been reading the news re: france striking too |
| 09:30 | chris | ahh but you made to amsterdam, thats good :) |
| 09:37 | * chris | goes to sleep, safe travels |
| 09:38 | cait | thx chris |
| 09:38 | oh, this was for hdl :) | |
| 09:39 | hdl | hi cait |
| 09:39 | I think it was for you either. | |
| 09:39 | * cait | is still running around her apartment packing and panicking |
| 09:39 | cait | hope you have no problems with your flights too and looking forward to meet you and pual |
| 09:39 | paul | |
| 09:58 | @wunder auckland | |
| 09:58 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 13.0�C (11:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:34 | slef | chris: good, good, so my NZ bit won't be too excruciating for most of the audience :) |
| 10:34 | cait | hm? |
| 10:34 | yay - suitcase is 20 kg - 3 under limit | |
| 10:35 | slef | [10:04]<chris> i reckon for a 105 person conference we have the most diverse audience, people from all over the world |
| 10:35 | I'm still loading my suitcase. Remembered I need to do some banking first. | |
| 10:37 | cait | 1 hour... |
| 10:37 | still a lot to do | |
| 10:37 | and I have this feeling I forgot something really important :( | |
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| 11:42 | cait | @wunder auckland |
| 11:43 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 AM NZDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:43 | cait | @wunder london |
| 11:43 | munin | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:43 | cait | @wunder london uk |
| 11:43 | munin | cait: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 13.0�C (12:20 PM BST on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:43 | cait | @wunder bangkok |
| 11:43 | munin | cait: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 11:43 | cait | @wunder sydney |
| 11:43 | munin | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:44 | jwagner | cait, I take it you're getting ready to go? |
| 11:45 | cait | not ready |
| 11:45 | but I am leaving :) | |
| 11:46 | jwagner | Well, that's the important part :-) |
| 11:46 | Have a good safe trip | |
| 11:46 | cait | thank you :) |
| 11:47 | ok, leaving to nz - see you all soon, online or real :) | |
| 11:48 | jwagner | Bye! |
| 11:48 | braedon | @wunder auckland |
| 11:48 | munin | braedon: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 AM NZDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
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| 12:09 | kmkale | hi all |
| 12:10 | slef | hi kmkale |
| 12:10 | kmkale | hi slef |
| 12:10 | slef | Anyone know if NZ has nasty insects? Not in my guide book either way. |
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| 12:11 | braedon | not really, apart from mozzies :P |
| 12:11 | we do have a few white tail spiders, but not particularly common | |
| 12:12 | slef | mozzies now? If so, I'll bring DEET |
| 12:12 | evil but effective | |
| 12:12 | braedon | not many mozzies atm, too early |
| 12:12 | not sure what their populations are like in welly... | |
| 12:13 | slef | I hoped they might have missed NZ :) |
| 12:13 | braedon | alas, no |
| 12:13 | slef | thanks for the info |
| 12:13 | braedon | no probs |
| 12:14 | kmkale | need some help in understanding /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -itemscontent & <<items.content>> placeholder |
| 12:16 | do I put the <<items.content>> placeholder in the notice text & then give a comma separated list of fields while invoking like overdue_notices.pl -itemscontent biblioitems.biblioitemnumber,biblioitems.itemtype,biblio.title,biblio.author ?? | |
| 12:19 | jwagner | kmkale, yes, I think that's the way to do it. On the crontab line, but the fields in the order you want them to show. |
| 12:20 | s/but/put/ | |
| 12:21 | kmkale | jwagner: So in the notice template its just the <<items.content>> NOT the fields themselves. Right? |
| 12:23 | jwagner | Yes, I think so. |
| 12:25 | kmkale | OK got it. Its just without the tabel name prefixes. i.e. just biblioitemnumber |
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| 12:29 | kmkale | Can I put html in the notice template? |
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| 12:30 | owen | I doubt it kmkale |
| 12:31 | The notices system would have to be specifically set up to send the right kind of content and I don't think it is | |
| 12:31 | kmkale | :) |
| 12:31 | jwagner | We've not had any luck trying to put html codes in the notice text itself, like trying to bold something. |
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| 12:31 | kmkale | The items info wont align. |
| 12:31 | so thought I should just ask ;) | |
| 12:32 | I guess we will have to set it up as html mail first? | |
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| 12:39 | David | How would I change languages for Koha? |
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| 12:42 | hdl | ./translate install list_of_languages |
| 12:42 | install languages | |
| 12:42 | And then you can get to language system preferences | |
| 12:42 | David | where do I find ./translate? |
| 12:45 | owen | David: That's at the command line |
| 12:46 | David | owen, but where is the "translate" command located? Like which directory? I'm in /koha/misc/translator but I don't see it in there. |
| 12:48 | hdl | misc/translator |
| 12:48 | David which version are you working on ? | |
| 12:53 | David | Koha version: 3.00.06.010 |
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| 12:57 | hdl | David in that case, use install-code.pl language |
| 12:57 | and not translate | |
| 12:57 | (translate is shipped with 3.2) | |
| 12:57 | David | :-/ Maybe I should look into using 3.2 Is there an easy upgrade script or is it manually done? |
| 12:58 | When I run ./install-code.pl fr for example, I get nothing back on the command line, but I also don't get have french as a language in the admin settings | |
| 12:58 | hdl | install-code.pl fr-FR |
| 12:58 | Not install-code.pl fr | |
| 12:59 | David | ah, so what would it be for am? |
| 13:00 | So I'm guessing I need to upgrade if I get this back?: | |
| 13:00 | fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po : opac ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/: Input must be a file or directory. (Symbolic links are not supported at the moment) | |
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| 13:14 | schuster | jwagner got a moment? |
| 13:15 | jwagner | yep |
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| 13:27 | magnus | hiya #koha - checking in from LHN... |
| 13:29 | jwagner | Hi magnus -- hope you have a good flight! |
| 13:31 | magnus | thanks, jwagner - very ok so far, but this is where the heavy stuff starts... |
| 13:31 | jwagner | Maybe I'll get to visit Australia & New Zealand when I retire & can take a ship across the Pacific. I don't really think I could manage 16-18 hours in a plane.... |
| 13:36 | magnus | yeah, lots of time and a boat would have been nice, but LAX-AKL is "only" 12 hours... |
| 13:37 | jwagner | And DC to LAX is another 6-7... |
| 13:38 | magnus | yeah, but you could ride a motorbike or something... ;-) |
| 13:41 | jwagner | No thanks. I don't do motorbikes.... |
| 13:42 | magnus | ride a horse, then? ;-) |
| 13:43 | jwagner | Trains. Now if only we had a nice efficient national train system like Europe does. |
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| 13:46 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 13:52 | magnus | g'day jcamins |
| 13:53 | jcamins | magnus: when's your next flight? |
| 13:55 | magnus | 16.15 england time |
| 13:55 | jcamins | Which is in... 5 minutes? |
| 13:55 | no, 1:05? | |
| 13:56 | magnus | hope so... ;-) |
| 13:56 | yeah | |
| 13:57 | guess i better find find my gate - have fun, #koha! | |
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| 14:18 | jcamins | I guess #koha is going to be very quiet in the morning, now, since everyone is in NZ. |
| 14:20 | owen | And we're going to miss most of the fun unless we stay on after work hours |
| 14:20 | jcamins | If anyone's here, any comments on the idea of having Edit Items automatically edit the first item, rather than bringing up an add item screen? |
| 14:20 | "Work hours"? | |
| 14:21 | * jcamins | thinks he may have heard that term before, but he's not really sure what it means... |
| 14:21 | sekjal | jcamins: it would make sense to automatically edit the first item. would save a click for all the times where there is only one time per biblio |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I thought. |
| 14:22 | owen | What if someone really did want to add an item? |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Shouldn't they click "Add Item"? |
| 14:22 | There should also be an "Add New Item" button, and not just a "Save Changes" button. | |
| 14:23 | owen | Depends... How did they get to that page? |
| 14:23 | jcamins | The way I'm doing it is clicking "Edit"->"Edit Items." |
| 14:23 | And every time I'm surprised by the fact that it doesn't actually edit the item. | |
| 14:24 | Well, now I'm getting used to it. | |
| 14:24 | Kind of. | |
| 14:24 | owen | jcamins: The trouble is the "edit" button is biblio-level, so how can it tell which item you want to edit? |
| 14:24 | jcamins | I'd have it default to the first. It doesn't add any additional step if you want to edit the second. |
| 14:25 | (i.e. you still have to click the "Edit" link) | |
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| 14:28 | owen | Once you have an item open for editing, there's no way to get to a blank Add form |
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| 14:29 | jcamins | I guess we need another button for "Clear," then. |
| 14:29 | owen | I wonder if you could add a tab with a blank form |
| 14:30 | jcamins | Or add an additional row to the table which says "New" instead of "Edit." |
| 14:32 | sekjal | what about moving the item list a vertical menu on the right, with 'new' being either at the top or bottom (or both)? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | I think we need to keep the table, since it helps to have all the information visible at once. |
| 14:34 | sekjal | Or making the Add/Edit form float overtop of the table in a lightbox-kinda deal. |
| 14:35 | with 'Add' and 'Clear' buttons at the top, above the table? | |
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| 14:38 | jcamins | That seems reasonable. Well, other than the fact that I don't think I would be able to do that. ;) |
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| 14:39 | sekjal | we've currently got three different views on the item information: the table on the Normal page, the more drawn-out Items tab, and the table on the Edit Items screen |
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| 14:46 | jcamins | I think perhaps my first patch will automatically edit the first one and add "Add New" and "Clear" buttons to the Edit Items screen. |
| 14:46 | Then I/we can refine it. | |
| 14:47 | owen | Why the "clear" button if we have an "add new" button? |
| 14:48 | slef | 1h down, 31 to go |
| 14:49 | jcamins | owen: I thought one of your objections was that the fields would be pre-set? "Clear" would be so that you could clear all the fields (essentially go back to the current "Edit items" page). |
| 14:49 | nengard | holy cow!! i'm packed and checked in!! |
| 14:49 | drop the pups off at a friends tonight and then leave first thing tomorrow | |
| 14:50 | slef | nengard: which airline? |
| 14:50 | airNZ didn't offer us online checkin :-/ | |
| 14:51 | nengard | slef - oh - V australia didn't have online checkin either - I'm checked in for my flight to California |
| 14:51 | kmkale | bye all |
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| 14:51 | slef | nengard: oic |
| 14:51 | moving again so bbl | |
| 14:51 | nengard | kind of annoying really |
| 14:51 | slef | V = virgin? |
| 14:52 | if so, they usually offer it | |
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| 14:54 | owen | jcamins: I think the "add new" button is sufficient, since it results in a blank form |
| 14:54 | I think in general "Clear" buttons are dangerous | |
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| 14:55 | jcamins | Okay, "Save Changes," "Clone Item," and "Add New" buttons. |
| 15:06 | chris | well that sux |
| 15:06 | jcamins | chris: isn't it kind of early in NZ? |
| 15:07 | chris | poor olugbenga, after getting an nz visa and buying his tickets, finds out that he has to get a transit visa for australia |
| 15:07 | jcamins | Oh no! |
| 15:07 | chris | which they decline, for no reason |
| 15:07 | well, they give him no reason why they declined it | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | And I guess it can't be appealed? |
| 15:08 | Or, at least, not in time? | |
| 15:09 | chris | yeah, probably not |
| 15:09 | so he's out 2,500$ and we are out a great presentation ;( | |
| 15:10 | (kohacon mails make my computer beep, thats why im awake) | |
| 15:10 | http://twitter.com/#!/paul_pou[…]tatus/27842489769 | |
| 15:10 | its all drama all the time! | |
| 15:11 | nengard: i just double cheked, you dont need a transit visa, you are on the list of countries who can transit without one | |
| 15:11 | nengard | chris - good to know - cause I didn't think I needed one either |
| 15:11 | chris | i think only brown people do, that seems to be the rule |
| 15:11 | which fits with australia | |
| 15:12 | nengard | brown? |
| 15:12 | chris | yeah, australia is pretty good with institutionalised racism |
| 15:13 | nengard | wow! |
| 15:16 | chris | i mean that dont say that .. but that the list of countries that need visas does :) |
| 15:16 | pretty crap that they can block someone who has a visa to visit nz, from getting there .. retarded | |
| 15:19 | * chris | has emailed all the people he can think of, and now will try to go back to sleep |
| 15:19 | jcamins | "name in ethnic script"? |
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| 15:43 | slef | tunnels ahoj. |
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| 15:52 | brendan | morning |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 15:53 | Barrc | Has anyone else noticed a "Term Highlighting" problem in 3.2? I know there is a bug reported for the results screen (turn of XSLDisplay shows hightlights) but the problem I am seeing is also in the detail screen |
| 15:54 | owen | We don't have term highlighting on the detail page |
| 15:54 | jcamins | Barrc: what owen said. |
| 15:54 | Barrc | Ah, that would be the problem then! |
| 15:55 | Has this been feature requeted....is there major issues with doing it? | |
| 15:55 | owen | Barrc: The issue at the moment is that Koha doesn't remember your search terms on the detail page |
| 15:56 | Barrc | OK, that makes sense. I might take a look at adding it myself, time permitting |
| 15:58 | owen | Barrc: See also Bug 3075 |
| 15:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3075 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, return to search results on detail page |
| 15:58 | owen | The two issues might be solved in tandem |
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| 16:02 | Barrc | looks reasonable handy.....session id's could be the way....... |
| 16:03 | owen | Barrc: Also look at the "search history" feature |
| 16:04 | ( I guess that's mentioned in the bug report ) | |
| 16:04 | and note bug 4029 | |
| 16:04 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4029 normal, P5, ---, matthias.meusburger, NEW, OPAC search history doesn't correctly store advanced searches |
| 16:05 | Barrc | Right....plenty there to confuse me for a while! |
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| 16:38 | Nate | Hello #koha! |
| 16:38 | brendan | hi nate |
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| 16:45 | * jcamins | thinks Nate may be having some trouble with his internet connection. |
| 16:47 | brendan | heya - I think he's trying new toys out |
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| 17:30 | nengard | it's so quiet in here - is everyone on a plane? |
| 17:30 | brendan | boo |
| 17:30 | nengard | what new toys does Nate have?? |
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| 17:33 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 17:33 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.8�C (10:40 AM PDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:35 | schuster | yes it is going to be quiet here until Koha-Con starts I am afraid... we will all have to comizzerate... |
| 17:35 | brendan | heya schuster |
| 17:35 | nengard | schuster - i'll be on a plane tomorrow, just wondering where everyone is today |
| 17:47 | sekjal_a is now known as sekjal | |
| 17:47 | schuster | Paul, Plane - cait - Plane - |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea - there... jealous... | |
| 17:48 | jcamins | slef - leaving for the plane |
| 17:48 | * chris_n | thinks the better part of koha devs are up in the air for the next day or so :) |
| 17:48 | schuster | 26 for the developer conference part... cool... now I REALLY wish I was going to be there. |
| 17:49 | chris_n are you getting to go? | |
| 17:49 | * chris_n | wishes :-( |
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| 17:49 | schuster | same here... just couldn't justify almost 2 full weeks - travel recovery fun weekend etc... |
| 17:50 | My employer wouldn't have understood the Sat/Sunday sight seeing part and I would have had to pay for that, but then my Wife wouldn't understand it when she was here with the 2 boys... | |
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| 17:55 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 17:57 | owen | All the Koha devs are required to take *separate* planes to prevent a crisis in the event of a crash |
| 17:58 | nengard | owen, sekjal and I are on the same one ... uh oh :) |
| 17:59 | jcamins | owen: good! |
| 17:59 | Fortunately chris already lives in NZ. | |
| 17:59 | Of course, he takes a bus every day!- | |
| 18:03 | Sharon | wizzyrea happens to work for a very understanding big boss - he let her and her husband leave for 3 weeks |
| 18:07 | jcamins | Does Mr. wizzyrea also work for the library? |
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| 18:07 | jcamins | I hadn't realized that. |
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| 18:18 | owen | speak of the devil |
| 18:19 | wizzyre-1 | whoa |
| 18:19 | am I the devil? | |
| 18:19 | jcamins | wizzyre-1: Sharon was talking about you, at least. |
| 18:19 | wizzyre-1 | ah |
| 18:20 | jcamins | I was talking about Mr. wizzyrea, saying I hadn't realized he worked for the library, too. |
| 18:20 | Sharon | yep, i get them both...in the same office ;-) |
| 18:22 | jcamins | wizzyre-1: how's NZ? |
| 18:23 | wizzyre-1 | beautiful, fragrant, and wonderful. :) |
| 18:23 | * jcamins | wishes he got to go to NZ this year |
| 18:26 | * owen | wants to buy his ticket for KohaCon 2011 now |
| 18:26 | * jcamins | wants KohaCon 2011 to be somewhere he can get to, now. |
| 18:27 | Sharon | France? |
| 18:28 | owen | We've got slef in England, paul_p et al in France, magnus in Norway, cait in Germany |
| 18:28 | Lots of good choices | |
| 18:29 | nengard | i vote england :) |
| 18:30 | jcamins | I vote somewhere within easy reach of Oxford. |
| 18:30 | Or Saint Petersburg (Russia). | |
| 18:30 | :) | |
| 18:30 | collum | A central location for these folks would be Amsterdam. |
| 18:30 | owen | nengard: Sure, you've already visited magnus haven't you? |
| 18:30 | nengard | I have |
| 18:30 | collum | Oooh. Saint Petersburg. Would be nice. |
| 18:31 | * owen | has been to France and Germany but never England or Norway |
| 18:31 | nengard | never been to france or germany - except airports |
| 18:31 | Sharon | pick someplace with direct flights |
| 18:31 | Frankfurt? | |
| 18:32 | collum | Been to Germany on the military plan. It was gorgeous. |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Sharon: isn't that one of the appeals of Amsterdam? |
| 18:32 | owen | I'd definitely pick Amsterdam over Frankfurt... but who's in Amsterdam to host us? |
| 18:32 | Sharon | That and the Heinie museum |
| 18:32 | and Bob's youth hostel...I'd have to visit it for old time's sake. God bless Amsterdam | |
| 18:32 | * wizzyre-1 | imagines the heinie museum, giggles |
| 18:33 | then realizes it's *beer*, not butts. | |
| 18:33 | Sharon | those would be over in the wax museum |
| 18:33 | * jcamins | thought that was a name |
| 18:34 | Sharon | i can't spell Heinekin Heiniken |
| 18:35 | beer, green bottle, yummie... | |
| 18:35 | owen | Heineken |
| 18:36 | Sharon | see |
| 18:36 | owen | Firefox's spell checker knows it, whaddaya know. |
| 18:39 | jcamins | You know, I never realized that Heineken was a Dutch brand. |
| 18:40 | Sharon | the brewery tour is a hoot...they knew we were only on it for the free beer at the end |
| 18:41 | jcamins | I went on a tour of the Whiskey museum in Edinburgh. Turns out I don't like whiskey. |
| 18:43 | sekjal | from what I recall, Frankfurt is comparatively inexpensive to get international flights into. |
| 18:43 | jcamins | It was a perfectly fine museum, but it did make the whole thing seem rather... pointless. ;) |
| 18:43 | For those of us in the States, there's Iceland Air. | |
| 18:43 | Sharon | is there a koha library in heidelberg |
| 18:44 | not far from frankfurt and much nicer place to visit | |
| 18:44 | jcamins | Ooh, I bet there are printing museums in Heidelberg! |
| 18:45 | Frankfurt has more direct flights, apparently. | |
| 18:45 | I guess JFK is a KLM hub. | |
| 18:45 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 18:45 | jcamins | I didn't realize that. I just thought that there were lots of direct flights to Amsterdam. |
| 18:47 | Sharon | I took KLM to London, nice airline...but flew home out of Frankfurt |
| 18:48 | jcamins | I flew from Edinburgh to NYC (and back, and forth, and back, and forth) with KLM. |
| 18:49 | Always the same flight, too... the flight attendant recognized me the last time. | |
| 18:50 | Sharon | fun |
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| 18:54 | collum | nengard still around? |
| 18:54 | nengard | kinda :) |
| 18:54 | collum | I signed up for you survey but never recieved an email. |
| 18:55 | Should I sign up again with another address? | |
| 19:06 | nengard | hmmm - having problems with that darn thing ... grrr |
| 19:07 | i thought letting people sign up and save would be helpful | |
| 19:07 | others have gotten their emails - let me find yours | |
| 19:11 | jwag_mtg is now known as jwagner | |
| 19:16 | jcamins | My library school has the highest average full-time salary for graduates who reported their salary in 2009. |
| 19:17 | In another example of "let's play with statistics to make the job market sound good," they ignore the fact that only 2/3 of the people who got jobs reported their salaries, and only a small percentage of graduates got jobs. | |
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| 19:18 | richard | hi |
| 19:18 | chris | Olugbenga is officially my hero |
| 19:18 | jcamins | chris: did he manage to get the transit visa? |
| 19:18 | slef | chris? |
| 19:18 | chris | He is now trying to organise to go via hk |
| 19:18 | At considerable extra expense | |
| 19:19 | slef | wow... bbl |
| 19:20 | chris | So soon as I get to my desk I have to try the cheapest way for him to get from akl to wlg |
| 19:20 | And the cheapest accomodation | |
| 19:20 | That's commitment ... when I say considerable its in the order of 5k | |
| 19:24 | He sure as hell won't be paying for any of his meals when he is hear if I have anything to do with it | |
| 19:24 | Here even | |
| 19:27 | Stupid australia | |
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| 19:32 | brendan | heh blame australia |
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| 19:33 | chris | Transit visa is bogus, just don't let ppl leave the terminal |
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| 19:33 | reva | Hi anyone, my 505 (Contents note) field is not showing in OPAC in the description tab. It shows fine in the description tab in staff side. What should I turn on to have it display the 505 contents note field? Thanks for any help. |
| 19:34 | chris | My stop bbiab |
| 19:35 | ronald | why QueryAutoTruncate search not working? i need other permission |
| 19:37 | if i use har* (harry) not working QueryAutoTruncate | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | ronald: what version of Koha are you on? |
| 19:38 | ronald | 3.0.2 |
| 19:38 | 3.0.2 | |
| 19:38 | 3.0.2 | |
| 19:38 | jcamins | Hm. That's quite an old version. |
| 19:38 | ronald | so? not working QueryAutoTruncate? |
| 19:39 | reva | Can anyone help me with the 505 field not displaying in OPAC description tab? |
| 19:39 | jcamins | I have no idea. I use Koha 3.2, and never tried using 3.0.2. |
| 19:40 | ronald: according to the documentation, you shouldn't use an asterisk if you have QueryAutoTruncate enabled. | |
| 19:41 | ronald | yes i do... |
| 19:41 | i use...example har* | |
| 19:41 | for search harry | |
| 19:41 | but not working | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | ronald: do you have QueryAutoTruncate turned on? |
| 19:43 | ronald | yes |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 19:43 | Try searching for "har" (without an asterisk). | |
| 19:43 | collum | nengard: OK. Sorry I had to step away for a few minutes. |
| 19:43 | ronald | ok |
| 19:43 | nengard | np - will get to it when i'm done with work - trying to do a migration :) |
| 19:46 | chris | back |
| 19:47 | ronald | not working |
| 19:47 | chris | are you using zebra |
| 19:47 | ? | |
| 19:47 | ronald | who? |
| 19:47 | me? | |
| 19:48 | chris | yes |
| 19:48 | reva | which tables do I tie the 505 $t and $g to, to have it display in OPAC (under the description tab)? Please anyone? |
| 19:48 | ronald | yes |
| 19:48 | i use zebra | |
| 19:49 | whit zebra QueryAutoTruncate not work¿? | |
| 19:49 | nengard | collum sent a reminder email - let me know if you get it |
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| 19:50 | chris | ronald: i works in the versions ive used, maybe you might need to upgrade to 3.0.6 ? |
| 19:51 | ronald | but whit 3.0.2 not? |
| 19:51 | collum | nengard: Got it. Thanks. |
| 19:51 | chris | ronald: i thought it did, i dont have a 3.0.2 to test though |
| 19:54 | ronald | chirs in 3.0.6 work good? |
| 19:57 | chris | as far as i know yes |
| 19:58 | jcamins | ronald: you have records in your system that include the word "harry," right? |
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| 19:59 | ronald | yes, |
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| 20:01 | reva | Hi, what should I do to have the 505 $g and $t to show in OPAC description tab? I would appreciate some help. Right now, it is not associated with any table (such biblio.note). But it shows in the staff side description tab. |
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| 20:02 | Brendan-O | @wunder 93117 |
| 20:02 | munin | Brendan-O: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.8�C (1:11 PM PDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:02 | Brendan-O | Thunderstorm - haven't had one in two years |
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| 20:03 | * Brendan-O | which one am I |
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| 20:04 | Brendan-O | heh - guess I lost power at home - there goes brendan_l |
| 20:04 | jcamins | reva: I don't think anything other than 505$a is displayed. |
| 20:05 | reva | Why is that jcamins? I mean I would like it to display the table of contents to the user without them having to go to the MARC display? |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Because no one added that feature. |
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| 20:06 | reva | Is it not available in the 3.2 either? |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Not yet, no. |
| 20:07 | I think I recall someone talking about adding it, but I don't think anyone has yet. | |
| 20:09 | chris_n | reva: we display 505$t in our opac |
| 20:10 | reva | Also I came across a strange problem the other day: I input a rather long 245a title. It would not let me save it unless I input something in 245b. (We do have perfectly good records where we do not have the remainder of the title.) I imported it from Columbia University Z39.50 search. ISBN: 9766001464. |
| 20:11 | chris_n what version are you using. Mine is 3.0.6 | |
| 20:11 | chris_n | but I had to mod it up |
| 20:11 | reva | what is mod it up, chris_n? |
| 20:11 | chris_n | 3.2.rc |
| 20:12 | om | |
| 20:14 | reva | chris_n, I do not know what mod it up is. Also please try importing the record from Columbia through z39.50. Try saving it and see if it complains "at least one 245 subfield must be filled." I had to go into $b and input a space before it will let me save it. |
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| 20:15 | chris_n | sorry reva, I'm about to leave and so don't have time for that today, however, see this link for the modifications we're running to show 505$t: |
| 20:15 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1b34de93b22#l505 | |
| 20:16 | sorry for the long url | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | reva: "mod it up" means that chris_n had to write the code to display the 505 himself. |
| 20:16 | As for importing the record from Columbia, I really don't have time, sorry. | |
| 20:17 | chris_n | bbl |
| 20:18 | reva | ok. I guess someone will have to learn that here. I have given the ISBN for the record that could not be saved without 245$b above. Please tyr out and see if it is a bug. As you can see the title is unusually long. Maybe that is why. |
| 20:19 | I do not mean today, sometime as you might want to know if it is some idiosyncracy in the imported record itself or a bug. | |
| 20:20 | Thanks to both of you jcamins and chris_n. | |
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| 20:23 | chris | http://twitter.com/paul_poulai[…]tatus/27846304710 |
| 20:24 | france picked the wrong week to go on strike | |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Thank goodness he decided to put in that crazy 24-hour stopover. |
| 20:25 | chris | yep |
| 20:26 | well, lee is in auckland by now, magnus is in the air | |
| 20:26 | and cait too .. and liz is already here .. so at least some people made it hehe | |
| 20:26 | jcamins | slef isn't flying through France, is he? |
| 20:27 | chris | i dont think so |
| 20:27 | he is on a train to london at the mo i think | |
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| 20:28 | chris | bonjour irma |
| 20:28 | irma | bonjour ca va? |
| 20:29 | chris | tre bien |
| 20:29 | (is that spelt right?) | |
| 20:29 | jcamins | *tres |
| 20:29 | chris | tres maybe |
| 20:29 | thanks | |
| 20:29 | my phonetic french spelling :) | |
| 20:29 | jcamins | Unless you were thinking of Catalan, in which case that might be right. |
| 20:30 | No, "very" in Catalan is "molt." | |
| 20:32 | chris | :) |
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| 20:35 | chris | heya Nate |
| 20:36 | how many hours to go ? | |
| 20:38 | ahh kids | |
| 20:38 | (20/10/10 08:18:24) lazza barr: i came in and bud was trying to eat his cereal with his spoon between his toes | |
| 20:38 | (bud is our nickname for kahu) | |
| 20:39 | Nate | hi chris |
| 20:39 | chris | thats what you have to look forward to Brendan-O |
| 20:39 | heya Nate :) | |
| 20:40 | Nate | I leave in about 20 hours for NZ! |
| 20:40 | chris | sweet :) |
| 20:41 | jcamins | chris: but did he manage it? |
| 20:41 | Brendan-O | can't wait chris - really excited to meet little girl |
| 20:41 | chris | jcamins: he probably did :) |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Excellent! Your son is already discovering heretofore unlooked-for talents. :) |
| 20:46 | And with that, I'm closing up shop for the day. | |
| 20:46 | Good night, #koha. | |
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| 23:24 | cait | hi #koha |
| 23:24 | chris, magnus, slef or jo around? | |
| 23:25 | chris | i am |
| 23:25 | where you? uk? | |
| 23:25 | cait | I am staying overnight in london |
| 23:25 | flight from zürich to london was delayed so I missed my flight zu sydney :( | |
| 23:25 | chris | :( how annoying |
| 23:25 | did they pay for your accom? | |
| 23:25 | cait | yep very annoyig |
| 23:25 | they did | |
| 23:26 | chris | small mercies |
| 23:26 | cait | and I am eve happier now - because I was allowed to change rooms to non smoker |
| 23:26 | chris | so you will get into auckland a day late? |
| 23:26 | cait | non smoking room? whatever, it's better |
| 23:26 | yep | |
| 23:26 | chris | gah! |
| 23:26 | cait | they booked me on the same flight - but one day later |
| 23:26 | loosing 24 hours :( | |
| 23:26 | chris | yeah, do you still arrive in time for the road trip? |
| 23:26 | cait | I think so |
| 23:26 | chris | thats good |
| 23:27 | cait | hoped that jo would be online, but can write her an email |
| 23:27 | perhaps it would be good to call the hotel? | |
| 23:27 | chris | yes, cant hurt |
| 23:56 | cait | oh, can you tell magnus if you see him? |
| 23:56 | I was supposed to meet him at the hotel | |
| 23:57 | chris | i will do |
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