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01:24 | slef | in auckland, having lunch at a cafe with wifi |
01:27 | chris | yay |
01:27 | is it cafenet? :) | |
01:27 | slef | seen about 5pm tomoz |
01:28 | chris | excellent |
01:28 | slef | tomi at esquires? |
01:28 | where's good for free wifi? | |
01:28 | hotel wifi not good in the room | |
01:28 | chris | hmm, no idea in bucklame im afraid |
01:29 | slef | oi I'm the one on a phone not you |
01:29 | chris | :) |
01:29 | every so often you will spot a cafe with free, but they are not the majority | |
01:32 | you didnt bump into magnus? | |
01:32 | i think he landed aroundish the same time as you | |
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01:38 | jransom | auckland library cafe has free wifi |
01:39 | MJ: Lee is at your hotel too | |
01:46 | slef | oic |
01:46 | magnus landed 2h before us I think | |
01:47 | we were delayed by swerving to avoid a typhoon | |
01:47 | chris | ahhh |
01:49 | slef | I've an apache server with loads of sockets stuck as syn_recv |
01:49 | :-/ | |
01:50 | not got all my keys with me. not sure if I can fix it | |
01:50 | chris | stink ;( |
01:51 | slef | jransom: airport express bus stop 3 is fine for the hotel |
01:52 | not sure if you knew | |
01:52 | are chips here chips or crisps? | |
01:54 | richard | chips are chips :) |
01:54 | chris | chips works for both hot chips (fries in americanese) and cold chips, crisps |
01:54 | slef | and jooi what do you call the white ///// area in the middle of the road? |
01:54 | chris | median strip |
01:55 | oh pedistrian crossing? | |
01:55 | slef | awww, not ghost island? |
01:55 | no, median bit | |
01:55 | chris | yeah median |
01:56 | slef | finally before I screw the server... |
01:56 | what do you call the black/white post with orange ball by the zebra crossing? | |
01:56 | richard | target |
01:57 | chris | well we dont call them zebra crossings, thats a pedistrian crossing .. and i have no idea what the post is called |
01:57 | just dont cross when richard is driving apparently | |
01:57 | :) | |
01:57 | richard | actually that was in poort taste, given that a policeman did use it as a target |
01:59 | jransom | slef: no I didn't know - but good to know :) |
02:00 | robin | chris: we do so call them zebra crossings. |
02:00 | jransom | not! |
02:00 | robin | at least, in the Mainland :) |
02:00 | slef | back home, the posts are Belisha Beacons |
02:00 | chris | you might |
02:01 | but you guys are weird | |
02:01 | :) | |
02:01 | jransom | pedestrian crossings (in Levin) |
02:01 | richard | but down their you call luncheon sausgage belgium |
02:01 | jransom | lol |
02:01 | weird ... | |
02:01 | robin | richard: you're the ones with your "batches" |
02:01 | "baches" rather. | |
02:01 | see, you can't even spell! | |
02:01 | richard | lol |
02:03 | * slef | really hopes that server is just fscking |
02:05 | slef | oh well, will check in 10 or so |
02:05 | bbl | |
02:12 | masonj | http://www.wired.com/dangerroo[…]urveillance-arts/ |
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02:14 | pauln | hi all, Should macrons display correctly on Maori terms? |
02:15 | masonj | pauln short answer , yes |
02:15 | if they dont its a data/encoding issue , not a display issue | |
02:22 | pauln | thanks masonj - its from a national library marc record so seems a bit odd |
02:22 | chris | got a url pauln ? |
02:23 | pauln | http://library.hauraki-dc.govt[…]iblionumber=47391 |
02:23 | chris | ahh i think i know the problem |
02:24 | pauln | King P�otatau is what is showing - don't even know how to type o with macron |
02:24 | chris | yep |
02:24 | pauln | better work on that :) |
02:25 | chris | i think i can fix this pretty easily |
02:25 | pauln | look at that, i came here rather than email you direct to leave you alone and you come riding along to save us anyway! |
02:25 | chris | i just think its not setting hte right header |
02:26 | hmm or maybe not | |
02:26 | robin | Content-Typetext/html; charset=UTF-8 |
02:27 | chris | nope thats messed up in the db |
02:27 | robin | but it claims it's running on IIS, so who knows what crazy it does to things. |
02:27 | chris | ah yeah, there is a proxy in front of it |
02:27 | that might be doing it | |
02:27 | * chris | logs in to check the record in the db |
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02:29 | pauln | also - the 245b remainder of title does not show in opac i just noticed |
02:29 | robin | hi wizzyrea_, how's wellington been treating you? |
02:29 | chris | pauln: <subfield code="b">an account of the life of P?otatau Te Wherowhero, the first M?aori king /</subfield> |
02:29 | robin | Not been blown out to sea yet? |
02:29 | wizzyrea_ | very well thanks for asking :) |
02:29 | today was about perfect (at last earlier when we were out) | |
02:29 | chris | so its not a display thing, it got munged somewhere along the line |
02:29 | oh you can fix that subtitle thing easy | |
02:29 | if you go to admin | |
02:30 | robin | yeah, it wasn't bad when I was heading in to work. |
02:30 | chris | then keywords to marc mapping |
02:30 | make one called | |
02:30 | subtitle | |
02:30 | 245 | |
02:30 | b | |
02:30 | that should fix that | |
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02:32 | chris | that record looks messed up in te puna |
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02:33 | pauln | ok, done the mapping bit |
02:39 | chris | you pulled that record in via z3950 eh? |
02:41 | pauln | must have, added post-training |
02:41 | the te puna record looks ok to me | |
02:42 | chris | yeah it seems to be coming across like that |
02:42 | is there a way to search te puna from the web? | |
02:45 | AH HA! | |
02:45 | te puna is encoded in marc-8 | |
02:45 | not utf-8 | |
02:45 | fixinated | |
02:45 | http://library.hauraki-dc.govt[…]iblionumber=47391 | |
02:45 | hows that? | |
02:46 | wizzyrea_ | oo, pretty OPAC |
02:48 | hrm, there ought to be a check out override for reserves if there is at least one other item available to fill the hold | |
02:48 | chris | ? |
02:48 | wizzyrea_ | so say you have a patron who has an item checked out |
02:49 | and you have 4 items total | |
02:49 | 3 are avaliable | |
02:49 | if that patron tries to renew it, and the reserve hasn't been assigned | |
02:49 | it won't let them renew it, because it wants to give it to the reserve | |
02:50 | even though there are other available items | |
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02:57 | pauln | Chris - te puna link http://nlnzcat.natlib.govt.nz/[…]XK3jLcbXz3UTxAJHM |
02:57 | chris | yep, fixed in the catalogue now |
02:57 | http://library.hauraki-dc.govt[…]iblionumber=47391 | |
02:58 | te puna is encoded in marc-8 | |
02:58 | we were expecting utf-8 | |
02:58 | fixed now | |
02:58 | jcamins_a | Do other ILSes not set the LDR/whatever to indicate UTF-8 consistently? |
02:59 | chris | that would be a no |
03:00 | jcamins_a | Ridiculous. |
03:00 | chris | well they often do, but then what their z3950 server hands you |
03:00 | might not match | |
03:00 | jcamins_a | So the Z39.50 server changes it? |
03:01 | chris | basically you have to tell your z3950 client what encoding to expect |
03:01 | and it cant mix and match | |
03:02 | so have mixed up records in your db, is messy when using Z3950 | |
03:02 | and often records lie | |
03:02 | jcamins_a | I just find the whole thing so baffling. |
03:02 | robin | MARC needs to go away |
03:02 | and be replaced by something sane | |
03:03 | and standardised. | |
03:03 | jcamins_a | You'd think the library world could get at least one thing right w/r/t languages. |
03:03 | chris | that whole marc-8 thing .. whats that about??? :-) |
03:04 | robin | to aid in standardisation, I'm going to make a commitment to only support MARC in ISO646 and EBCDIC from now on. |
03:04 | chris | heh |
03:04 | * wizzyrea_ | giggles |
03:05 | chris | the first opac i worked on |
03:05 | for wellington city library | |
03:05 | the data came out of their mainframe in EBCIDIC | |
03:05 | -I | |
03:05 | robin | that must have been "fun" |
03:05 | chris | converted it, stuffed into sybase and searched it with perl |
03:06 | ran once a night | |
03:06 | was supposed to last for 2 months until their vendor gave them their web opac | |
03:06 | it lasted 2 years | |
03:06 | robin | goodness |
03:06 | chris | until they changed vendors |
03:06 | agile ... you're doing it wrong! | |
03:07 | robin | heh |
03:16 | pauln | chris - sweet, all good |
03:16 | jcamins_a | Okay, time to hit the hay. |
03:16 | Good night (again), #koha | |
03:16 | chris | pauln: excellent |
03:16 | pauln | RDA is almost here to replace MARC - don't ask me anything about it but, no me cataloguer |
03:17 | is there wifi at kohacon? | |
03:17 | chris | there sure is |
03:17 | citylink donated us 3 days of free wifi | |
03:18 | wizzyrea_ | !!! that's awesome :D |
03:19 | pauln | are they the ones doing free wifi in cbd? |
03:19 | chris | nope but they do www.cafenet.co.nz |
03:19 | which is cheap wifi | |
03:22 | pauln | nice one |
03:24 | cheers chris, catch ya | |
03:24 | chris | cya later |
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04:09 | Oak | \o |
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04:28 | slef | yengh... on expensive hotel internet |
04:28 | time to fix that server :-/ | |
04:30 | wizzyrea_ | hey slef |
04:30 | omg, we're in the same time zone! | |
04:31 | chris | Slef can ur phone take a sim? |
04:31 | 2degrees prepay 3g is probably cheaper | |
04:31 | If you can tether | |
04:32 | slef | chris: yeah, I was wondering about that, but I want this fixed in the next 45m |
04:32 | chris | Right, as you were :) |
04:32 | slef | any idea of price/package name? |
04:32 | as that may still be worthwhile | |
04:32 | chris | Lemme find it |
04:37 | Hmm not as goood as I remember 20 nz for 1gb | |
04:38 | http://www.2degreesmobile.co.n[…]ndzone-data-packs | |
04:38 | But still probably cheaper than hotel nets | |
04:39 | slef | yeah, data aloways better than time for ssh |
04:39 | chris | If you aren't watching movies unlikely to use all that |
04:39 | slef | ta |
04:40 | chris | Are you in the president hotel? |
04:40 | Lee was going to try to find you | |
04:41 | slef | yes, just spooke with 20mins ago |
04:41 | hence the 45min deadline ;-) | |
04:42 | chris | Ahh :) |
04:42 | jransom | so wish I was in Auckland already |
04:42 | slef | I think this is a lost cause |
04:42 | chris | Ill leave you to it then |
04:42 | slef | I don't have the ssh keys I need. |
04:42 | They're not in the file they should be. | |
04:42 | chris | Stink one |
04:43 | slef | paging colo support now :-/ |
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05:01 | slef | @seen cait |
05:01 | munin | slef: cait was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <cait> the messages look not so nice too and you can't show the date and time at the beginning of a message |
05:03 | jransom | she lost somewhere between hong kong and australia and auckland |
05:03 | due in tomorrow at about 2pm ish | |
05:05 | slef | ok ta |
05:06 | HK airport has free wifi | |
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05:06 | slef | I think I might have mentioned that. |
05:08 | chris | Wellington does too |
05:18 | slef | ok, off downstairs |
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05:29 | pianohack | Hi #koha |
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05:42 | wizzyrea_ | hey ph :) |
05:43 | jransom | Liz baby :) |
05:44 | hey pianohacker | |
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05:57 | wizzyrea_ | jo! hi :D |
05:58 | doh I missed her | |
05:58 | I was going to show her this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea/5100808621/ | |
06:18 | chris | good photo |
06:23 | wizzyrea_ | it's a little blurry but eh |
06:25 | chris | yeah, not bad for a night photo from a phone |
06:27 | did you eat? | |
06:28 | wizzyrea_ | yep, we had hell pizza... not very original, but it was really good |
06:28 | well I should say, we had salmon, spring onion, and cream cheese pizza | |
06:28 | not one we'd have had at home | |
06:28 | ^.^ | |
06:28 | chris | :) |
06:29 | we get hell for pizza thursdays, so im kinda over them | |
06:29 | but i do like the one with gherkins on it | |
06:30 | wizzyrea_ | ! I missed that one |
06:30 | very original combinations | |
06:32 | chris | cursed |
06:32 | Honey Mustard, Ham, Onions, Gherkins, Chicken, Bacon & Smoked Cheddar. | |
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06:34 | wizzyrea_ | mmm ok yea that sounds yummy |
06:37 | chris | tv is crap tonight eh |
06:38 | wizzyrea_ | lol ya |
06:41 | do they run trains on sunday? | |
06:41 | chris | yup |
06:41 | wizzyrea_ | woot. Think we'll maybe try to do the train thing then. |
06:41 | chris | where do you want to go? |
06:42 | wizzyrea_ | well I'm a little torn between out of town to see the country (isn't there a wine area to the north?) and a train around the harbor |
06:43 | chris | well you gotta go round the harbour to go out to the vinyeards :) |
06:43 | wizzyrea_ | there you go then |
06:43 | so that | |
06:43 | lol | |
06:44 | chris | http://www.metlink.org.nz/jour[…]=24-10-2010&modes[]=bus&modes[]=rail&modes[]=ferry&modes[]=cablecar&submit=Go |
06:44 | bad url, but hopefully works | |
06:44 | wizzyrea_ | ohhhh journey planner |
06:45 | ugh. web usage fail. lol | |
06:45 | me, not you | |
06:46 | chris | yeah, have a play with the journey planner, martinborough has the vineyards |
06:46 | hmm none of those look that good | |
06:47 | greytown is a neat little town | |
06:47 | good shops and restaurants | |
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06:48 | chris | looks like only 1 train each way on the wairarapa line on sunday |
06:49 | but the hutt line has tons | |
06:49 | so you could go to petone | |
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06:50 | chris | which is quite a fun little place to look around too |
06:51 | wizzyrea_ | really, 12 miutes by train? I don't know if I can handle that ;) |
06:51 | chris | hehe |
06:51 | heres a plan | |
06:52 | take the ferry to eastborne | |
06:52 | bus to petone station | |
06:52 | train back to wellington | |
06:52 | wizzyrea_ | the scale of the maps is what's getting me... nothing is really that far |
06:52 | but it looks like it should be | |
06:52 | chris | yeah |
06:52 | hehe | |
06:53 | wizzyrea_ | in kansas, maps with that distance mean an hour at least :P |
06:53 | well, what *appears* to be that distance | |
06:53 | the scale messes with me | |
06:53 | it's just a much smaller place :) | |
06:53 | chris | yup |
06:57 | wizzyrea_ | this ferry? http://bit.ly/adsy7u |
06:58 | chris | yep |
06:59 | http://eastbywest.co.nz/ <-- that one | |
07:00 | http://eastbywest.co.nz/places-to-see/ | |
07:00 | you could stop at the island on the way | |
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07:08 | koha_mong | hello, |
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07:11 | newnick | hello, |
07:11 | is anybody here | |
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07:47 | jransom | Magnus - kiaora my friend |
07:47 | welcome to NZ | |
07:48 | magnus | thanks jransom - it's been great so far |
07:48 | jransom | did you have a good trip over? |
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07:55 | magnus | jransom: well... it could never be "good", i think, but it was uncomlicated, at least - unlike some, i hear |
08:00 | wizzyrea_ | jo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea |
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08:09 | chris | heya magnus :) |
08:11 | magnus | hi chris - we're in the same timezone (as wizzyrea said some days ago) ;-) |
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08:16 | chris | its paul ... in malaysia? |
08:16 | magnus: yeah its weird eh | |
08:19 | magnus | hiya paul_p |
08:20 | chris: it is. and my head is starting to feel weird too, so i'll hit the hay shortly | |
08:20 | chris | yeah, its about that time |
08:20 | sleep well | |
08:22 | slef | sparkly worly world |
08:23 | whirly even | |
08:23 | saw a bus going to Torbay on the walk back. That always amuses me. | |
08:23 | Clevedon wines are pretty hilarious too. | |
08:24 | paul_p | hi magnus & chris & slef |
08:24 | slef | (Clevedon is 7 miles from home. No vineyards) |
08:24 | paul_p | klia++ |
08:24 | free wifi (2 hours) everywhere | |
08:24 | take off in 4 hours. | |
08:24 | i'm 30hours without sleeping, start to be really tired... | |
08:24 | slef | HK seems to have unlimited free wifi. |
08:25 | erm? no hotel at AMS? | |
08:25 | paul_p | french airport have a 0mn free wifi |
08:25 | slef | Yeah, LHR has no free either |
08:25 | paul_p | slef, yep, but I wake up a 6AM |
08:25 | slef | but my 3g is cheap enough there |
08:25 | paul_p | and that was 30h ago now... |
08:25 | slef | no sleep in flight? |
08:26 | paul_p | (could not sleep in the plane, even with an emergency exit seat) |
08:26 | slef | aww |
08:26 | paul_p | was 11PM in my body when we landed, so ... |
08:26 | (and I forget the sleeping drugs my doctor gave to me :(((( ) | |
08:27 | slef | I'm ignoring my sleep-disrupting medication today. |
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08:29 | slef | hi hdl |
08:29 | magnus | g'night #koha |
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08:30 | slef | hdl: are you hd or just h in speech usually? |
08:30 | hdl | hd. |
08:30 | But usually american and foreign folks use henri only ;) | |
08:32 | slef | I will carry on confusing them then :) |
08:36 | chris | heh |
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08:37 | slef | chris: good NZ tv now guide website? |
08:37 | chris | hmmm |
08:38 | http://telstraclear.co.nz/resi[…]l-tv/tvg-grid.cfm | |
08:38 | slef | ta |
08:38 | chris | thats missing 2 channels |
08:38 | tv3.co.nz and c4tv.co.nz | |
08:38 | slef | oh and Emmerdale after the lunchtime news? really? |
08:38 | chris | who have some retarded rule |
08:39 | yep, its for the 70 year olds who watch lunchtime news :) | |
08:39 | theres bugger all on tonight | |
08:40 | hdl | hi from Kuala Lumpur |
08:40 | slef | chris: http://bleb.org/tv/channel.html?ch=itv1 |
08:40 | chris | heya hdl |
08:40 | slef | while talking about retarded rules |
08:40 | chris | yeah tv3 and c4 must have some rule about that |
08:40 | too | |
08:41 | actually if you are in hotels | |
08:41 | http://www.skytv.co.nz/tv-guide.aspx | |
08:41 | you probably have sky | |
08:42 | slef | we seem to have a bizarre mix here |
08:42 | one two three six prime dw-tv bvn tv5 | |
08:43 | chris | ahhh, freeview |
08:43 | slef | http://www.presidenthotel.co.nz/test/tp.html says different channels to what is on the very slow tv |
08:44 | It's a Lifestylepanel. | |
08:44 | I suspect that is because you have to plan your life around its boot time. | |
08:44 | MSIE inside | |
08:45 | chris | ahhh yeah |
08:46 | http://www.freeviewnz.tv/whats[…]freeview/tv_guide <-- like that? | |
08:52 | slef | chris: yeah, about half of that. |
08:58 | chris | those are all the free to air ones |
09:02 | slef | oh other thing that was worrying to see: NZ imports the Jeremy Kyle show??? |
09:14 | paul_p | hdl should not say "hi from KL", but "Hi from KL business class lounge, where I am on a comfortable chair, could take a shower, while Paul is in economy, on an uncomfortable chair in the airport". But I agree that would be longer :D |
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09:15 | paul_p | chris, about ? |
09:15 | hdl | paul_p: that's just an unexpected Happy Birthday from circomstances ;) |
09:16 | * si | wanders by |
09:16 | paul_p | yes ! I forgot that : Happy Birthday once again hdl !!! |
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09:17 | si | paul: you're on your way to Wellington? |
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09:19 | paul_p | si, nope. On the way to Auckland. |
09:19 | we are in Kuala Lumpur, after many events ! | |
09:19 | si | woo, cool |
09:19 | paul_p | -hdl tickets cancelled by company |
09:19 | * si | lived in KL for several years as a boy |
09:19 | paul_p | - france on strike, missing our AMS<>KL |
09:20 | si | paul: but you'll be in Wellington next week? |
09:20 | paul_p | - we could have had a problem with my luggage, it was not supposed to be given to me in KL, but I saw it by chance when passing near the baggage drop ! |
09:20 | si, yep, of course ;-) | |
09:20 | si | heh |
09:20 | splendid | |
09:21 | chris | hi paul_p |
09:21 | si | I can categorically state that it will not be as warm as KL here :-) |
09:21 | chris | hehe |
09:21 | paul_p | NZ++ |
09:21 | and conditionned air is really cold everywhere, so we get hot/cold/hot/cold | |
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09:23 | paul_p | hi chris. I want your opinion about the 2008-2009 history of Koha. do you think I should speak of the events with ptfs/ll ? I plan to do something like : "title => Houston, we have a problem" and explain in a few lines what happends, and why it has slowed the project (lot of time spent instead of happy hacking) |
09:25 | chris | i think maybe very briefly |
09:25 | patrick jones is no longer coming | |
09:26 | but jane wagner is instead | |
09:26 | si | Copyright 2005-2006 Ookla |
09:26 | Calculates the size of a HTTP Request. | |
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09:32 | slef | It's blooming freezing in bucklame president but I think I have figured out the heating. |
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09:34 | slef | where should I email my slides? |
09:34 | not absolutely final but I would like to get something saved | |
09:35 | chris | kristina at catalyst or chrisc at catalyst |
09:35 | * paul_p | happy with the idea to see jwagner, but don't know (or fear to know) where all this ...(silence here) ... will go :\ |
09:37 | slef | so does this mean I should drop the section of my session on the future of koha-community.org? |
09:37 | ;-) | |
09:39 | catalyst.co.nz? | |
09:39 | chris | net |
09:40 | slef | net or net.nz? |
09:41 | chris | net.nz :) |
09:41 | slef | oh oops - from line on that will be wrong, so please let me know here :) |
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10:01 | chris | you sent it to me slef ? |
10:02 | * chris | is falling asleep, so ill let you know in the morning when it makes it through the greylisting or whatever has caught it |
10:04 | chris | oh there it is |
10:05 | cool, now im going to sleep | |
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11:46 | Brendan-O | morning :) |
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11:59 | jcamins_a | Morning. |
11:59 | Brendan-O | morning jcamins_a |
11:59 | jcamins_a | !!! |
12:00 | Looks like Amit was pretty busy! | |
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12:26 | munin | Brendan-O: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.5�C (5:36 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
12:26 | Brendan-O | @wunder -help |
12:26 | munin | Brendan-O: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
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12:30 | jcamins | Hm. First item on my to-do list is figuring out how to duplicate input boxes. |
12:33 | I think maybe I'll move that to later in my to-do list. | |
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12:56 | jcamins | Wow. C4::Languages is impressively confusing. |
13:08 | brendan | So I guess I was talking in my sleep lastnight - I woke up my wife by saying |
13:09 | schuster | jwagner is going to NZ? |
13:09 | brendan | "How much for a MARC record? 2 dollars!!! that's ridiculous!! They should be free!" |
13:09 | braedon|1 | hahaha |
13:09 | you better be serious brendan | |
13:09 | schuster | someone is really proud of their work... |
13:09 | brendan | I guess I kept talking about MARC records - so much that She had to get up and turn the light on for me to stop talking |
13:09 | jwagner | schuster, yes I am, last minute decision as of yesterday. |
13:10 | * jwagner | is VERY busy getting things organized to go.... |
13:10 | brendan | then I said - wow that's extreme and rolled over and kept sleeping |
13:10 | schuster | Enjoy! wish there was a last minute decision like that around here, but since my passport has expired I doubt that would work! |
13:11 | jwagner | My passport is about the only thing that IS ready. But I ticked off a lot of errands yesterday. Still a bunch more to go. |
13:12 | * jwagner | is so distracted this morning that I made my second cup of tea with cold water -- guess we're having iced tea.... |
13:12 | jcamins | Woohoo! I successfully read the list of languages from the database! |
13:20 | brendan | have a fun trip jwagner!!! hopefully the plane ride treats you ok and you don't have too difficult of time :) |
13:21 | braedon|1 | and don't sleep talk about marc records on the plane :) |
13:22 | jwagner | It's going to be rough. I'm getting handicapped assistance through the various airports, but my arthritic legs aren't going to like that much time in a plane seat. |
13:22 | Dunno about sleep talking, but many years back, when I was managing a migration from an old ILS to Unicorn, I was dreaming in MARC record format by the end of the project. I can think of better things to dream about. | |
13:23 | * braedon|1 | dreams about uni projects and assignments |
13:23 | braedon|1 | i imagine it will only get worse with work projects :P |
13:24 | spending the entire night planning out intricate details of an assignment, and then waking up to find it is all nonsense is, well, interesting | |
13:24 | jcamins | Why I am I getting an array reference from GetRecordValue? |
13:25 | Does that make sense? I don't think it does. | |
13:25 | brendan | yeah I can't believe $2dollars for a MARC record and that's nonsense this morning ;) |
13:26 | jwagner | Actually I get some of my best solutions in dreams :-) If I'm struggling with a script or something, I often wake up about 2 AM thinking, oh, THAT'S how to fix it. |
13:26 | brendan | sounds like jcamins is talking in his sleep |
13:27 | braedon|1 | sometimes takes me upwards of half an hour to sort out exactly what i have planned is actually usable, and what is based on some fantasy version of the assignment - not good when the assignment in question is due in a couple of hours |
13:27 | jcamins | brendan: sadly not. |
13:28 | I have a keyword mapping 'city'->260a, but when I use GetRecordValue to retrieve it, I get an array reference. | |
13:28 | When I try to dereference the array, I get nothing. | |
13:34 | Okay, so according to ref it's an array of an array of a hash. | |
13:38 | * jcamins | hates Perl variables |
13:38 | jcamins | Everything is type '$' |
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13:41 | jcamins | Okay, supposedly GetRecordValue returns an array of hashes. |
13:41 | A shame it doesn't appear to do that when I call it. | |
13:42 | Except when I try to dereference it, it tells me it's not a hash value. | |
13:47 | * jcamins | has decided he doesn't like C4. |
13:51 | jwagner | jcamins, that's a potentially explosive statement :-) |
13:54 | jcamins | Yes, I know. |
13:54 | But it seems that C4 is tightly coupled to the template system we use. | |
13:55 | braedon|1 | and if you disconnect the couplings in the wrong order, the device will be triggered? |
13:56 | jcamins | I think so, yes. |
13:56 | * braedon|1 | votes for the red wire |
13:57 | braedon|1 | (so long as you change your mind at the last second, you should be fine) |
13:58 | * jcamins | bangs his head on the table |
13:59 | jcamins | Interesting fact: the limited comments in C4 are often misleading or wrong. |
14:00 | braedon|1 | positive thinking jcamins - remeber, if you want it hard enough, you can do anything |
14:00 | those comments are the negative thinkgers | |
14:00 | thinkers even | |
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14:01 | braedon|1 | always trying to bring you down |
14:01 | don't let them lead you astray! | |
14:01 | read the code, understand the code, BE the code! | |
14:02 | jcamins | I think that this is a hash. |
14:02 | Unfortunately, apparently Perl disagrees. | |
14:02 | The Template Pro agrees with me, however. | |
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14:06 | braedon|1 | alas, my "usefulness" re perl is currently limited to motivational comments |
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14:07 | jcamins | Okay, Perl is convinced this is not a hash reference. |
14:08 | It says it's an array. | |
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14:10 | jcamins | Ah ha. |
14:10 | It's an array of an array of a hash, and Perl won't let you access it directly. | |
14:12 | I have successfully extracted "New York." | |
14:20 | my @cities = GetRecordValue('city', $record, GetFrameworkCode($biblionumber)); | |
14:20 | my $city = shift @cities; | |
14:20 | print @$city[0]->{'subfield'}; | |
14:20 | exit; | |
14:20 | Hm. That didn't work. | |
14:21 | If anyone wants to retrieve the value from GetRecordValue directly, the code for that is $whatever[0][0]->{'subfield'} with $whatever declared as an array. | |
14:29 | Do you put subroutine definitions at the top or bottom of a a file? | |
14:33 | brendan | I think usually practice is at the end |
14:33 | bottom | |
14:34 | jcamins | Okay, thanks. |
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15:04 | brendan | ah which table are lists stored in? |
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15:09 | jcamins | virtualshelfcontents? |
15:10 | How come scalar() is returning an array reference? | |
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15:20 | jcamins | I think Perl didn't use pointers? |
15:23 | *thought | |
15:31 | Does anyone here understand Perl arrays? | |
15:40 | * jcamins | remembers why he hates working with Perl. |
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16:01 | jcamins | Okay, this can wait until NZ wakes up. |
16:01 | Two hours and I've made no progress. | |
16:05 | gmcharlt | jcamins: one trick is to use Data::Dumper; |
16:05 | then Dumper($foo) will print the structure of a variable that is a reference | |
16:06 | schuster | gmcharlt - you going to NZ? |
16:06 | gmcharlt | schuster: no; I'll be attending the conference is spirit, as it were |
16:07 | * jwagner | will hoist a glass for gmcharlt, in the spirit |
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16:09 | schuster | Stuck here with the rest of us US unable to leave the country! Now I don't feel so bad! |
16:14 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I'll try that. |
16:14 | Actually, I think I'll make this save MARC records first. | |
16:16 | Now I just have to figure out whether someone's hit the "Submit" button or not. | |
16:17 | Is it just me or does the Perl documentation make exactly no allowance for people who don't already know how to do what they want to do? | |
16:17 | I decided to give up. | |
16:17 | Sorry, wrong window. | |
16:17 | gmcharlt | jcamins: that's what the Camel book is for |
16:17 | jcamins | (the giving up bit... that was about another project) |
16:17 | gmcharlt: I shall have to get a copy then. | |
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17:17 | brendan | schuster you a rangers fan? |
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18:05 | chris | gah this weather is disgusting |
18:05 | @wunder wellington nz | |
18:05 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
18:05 | brendan | morning chris |
18:05 | @wunder 93117 | |
18:05 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.6�C (11:15 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). |
18:05 | brendan | not too much better here |
18:05 | wizzyrea_ | @wunder Lawrence, ks |
18:06 | munin | wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.7�C (1:17 PM CDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
18:06 | chris | we are getting 70kmph gusts |
18:06 | wizzyrea_ | hrmph. |
18:06 | chris | wizzyrea_: its a southerly, straight from antartica ... we want it to change to a northerly |
18:06 | wizzyrea_ | I'll order that rigt up |
18:06 | right* | |
18:07 | chris | http://www.metservice.com/nati[…]-nz-colour-latest |
18:07 | that high is taunting us | |
18:08 | wizzyrea_ | heh yea it is |
18:09 | chris | what time does the tour start? |
18:09 | wizzyrea_ | 1:30 |
18:10 | chris | ahhh |
18:10 | brendan | what tour? |
18:10 | chris | it might blow itself out by then |
18:10 | fingers crossed | |
18:10 | i can see blue to the south | |
18:10 | wizzyrea_ | lotr tour |
18:10 | :) | |
18:10 | brendan | oh man - so jealous |
18:11 | chris | im gonna say 2 hours the rain will be gone |
18:11 | brendan | lotr++ |
18:11 | wizzyrea_ | says the guy from bywater :) |
18:11 | brendan | YAY!!! |
18:11 | chris | so 9.22am ... lets see how wrong i am |
18:11 | brendan | just reading --> http://ur1.ca/254b4 from ranginui tweets |
18:12 | wizzyrea_ | yup, it's a big deal here |
18:12 | like, huge | |
18:12 | chris | imho its Warner brothers being dicks |
18:12 | wizzyrea_ | stupid americans >.> |
18:12 | afk a min | |
18:13 | chris | this bit gives it away "It had been agreed the ban would be lifted on Monday. Warner Bros had asked to consult about how it would be announced, but had not issued a press release so Actors' Equity lifted the ban yesterday. " |
18:13 | brendan | wizzyrea_ let me know when you post pics from your tour :) |
18:14 | chris | bbiab |
18:14 | wizzyrea_ | supposedly they have elf ears in the vans so you can "be the elf you are" |
18:15 | def will do brendan. I'm putting most things on flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea | |
18:16 | brendan | oh man elf ears |
18:17 | I need to sign off soon - I can't handle the suspense of waiting to see your pics | |
18:17 | spud with elf ears!!! woohooo! | |
18:17 | wizzyrea_ | lol |
18:20 | brendan | :sigh: |
18:20 | I should of gone to Kohacon | |
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18:30 | jcamins | brendan: you know, I never made the connection to LotR before. |
18:30 | brendan | heh - yup bywater - that small community meeting place in the shire |
18:31 | prancing pony is there IRC | |
18:31 | jcamins | Green Dragon, I think. |
18:31 | Prancing Pony is in Bree. :) | |
18:32 | Hey, there's a "List of Middle-earth inns" on Wikipedia. | |
18:43 | schuster | brendan - when in Texas and the local team is winning EVERYONE is a Rangers fan. It is red and blue day at work tomorrow. |
18:46 | brendan | cool hopeing the rangers bet them bums (yanks) |
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19:00 | schuster | Yep! |
19:02 | sql question - I want to find things that have booksellerid like "%PO%" but not booksellerid like "%BOND%" | |
19:02 | any hints? | |
19:05 | slef | just as you wrote but s/but/and/ and ' instead of " |
19:05 | might be a more optimised way of writing it - iDunno | |
19:06 | schuster | Guess I wrote it almost correct anyway! booksellerid like "%PO%" not booksellerid like "%BOND%" |
19:06 | brendan | like '' and not like ''; |
19:06 | schuster | yes anyway That wasn't in my mysql book in a nutshell! |
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19:08 | brendan | @seen sekjal |
19:08 | munin | brendan: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <sekjal> ok, time to find my gate. cheers, all! |
19:09 | brendan | sekjal has got to be getting close |
19:09 | @seen nengard | |
19:09 | munin | brendan: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <nengard> collum sent a reminder email - let me know if you get it |
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19:17 | CGI903 | Buenas tardes |
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19:18 | CGI748 | Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como emito un listado de materias en el sistema |
19:22 | traducción del español al inglés | |
19:22 | Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system | |
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19:26 | richard | hi |
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19:39 | brendan | heya richard |
19:39 | richard | hi brendan |
19:43 | slef | anyone know a good bakery in central auckland? :-) |
19:45 | chris | from what i remember theres not a lot of anything in central auckland |
19:47 | slef | I might stroll out towards mt eden then |
19:47 | chris | ah yeah there are a couple of decent places out there |
19:48 | sleep well? | |
19:48 | slef | yeah fine. oddly, a +12 jump seems easier than a +5 |
19:49 | chris | yep |
19:49 | i found europe easier to adjust to than the us | |
19:49 | slef | Maybe it's just that NZ is more euro than US ;-) |
19:49 | chris | that could be it :) |
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19:52 | CGI818 | Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system |
19:53 | Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como genero un reporte de las materias o descritores tematicos en el sistema | |
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19:59 | slef | biab - food time |
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20:18 | CGI858 | Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system |
20:19 | Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como generar un reporte de descriptores tematicos en Koha | |
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20:33 | fcapo | Hello, I have a problem : in my koha instance, if I activate EnhancedMessagingPreferences and then try to configure a patron category, I get an empty "Default messaging preferences for this patron category" table. |
20:39 | It seems my message_attributes table is empty and EnhancedMessagingPreferences needs it. | |
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20:40 | CGI550 | Buenas tardes |
20:40 | rhcl_away | Everybody: a lot of the people that could normally help with questions are in New Zealand for the Koha Conference. |
20:41 | fcapo | oh, good to know... :/ |
20:41 | rhcl_away | It's probably OK to go ahead and ask questions, but responses may be a little slow for a while. |
20:41 | chris | fcapo: it might be better to mail the list |
20:42 | as yeah, most of us are busy with last minute things | |
20:42 | (like writing my presentation) | |
20:42 | CGI550 | Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system |
20:42 | fcapo | ok, no problems |
20:45 | CGI550 | Buenas tardes me pueden indicar como generar un reporte de materias ingresadas al sistema? |
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20:58 | brendan | CGI550 --> http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
20:58 | try looking there and see if you can't find some information | |
21:01 | CGI550 | thanks |
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21:06 | chris | cait is in sydney |
21:08 | gmcharlt | chris: any last minute translations? |
21:09 | chris | lemme just quickly check |
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21:10 | magnus | auckland city library yay! |
21:10 | chris | :) |
21:10 | free wifi? | |
21:11 | magnus | yup! |
21:11 | hey, they should be using koha... | |
21:12 | chris | yeah, not III |
21:12 | sekjal needs to show them his presentation | |
21:12 | gmcharlt: just committed the changes | |
21:12 | norwegian and spanish | |
21:12 | gmcharlt | thanks much |
21:12 | chris | so if you want to pull from the translation branch on workbuffer |
21:13 | you'll grab them | |
21:13 | CGI550 | buenas tardes como puedo generar un reporte de subject |
21:14 | es decir libros ingresados al sistema | |
21:16 | podrian indicarme en que tabla de la base de datos de Koha se almacena los subject de los libros catalogados ? | |
21:17 | could tell me that table Koha database stored the subject of the books entered into the system? | |
21:20 | I want to generate a list through a mysql query | |
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21:20 | richard | CGI550 this might help - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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21:23 | magnus | hiya wizzyrea_ |
21:23 | wizzyrea_ | hi there |
21:26 | CGI550 | thanks richard |
21:26 | :) | |
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21:27 | Chris Cormack: Translations | |
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21:51 | darling | http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/[…]or-Labour-weekend |
21:51 | wizzyrea_ | just in time for us to be inside at kohacon ;) |
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21:52 | chris | heh |
21:52 | darling | yeah, it's been a little nasty past day or so |
21:52 | we'll want it to be nice for lunchtimes | |
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22:42 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 4305 - prevent errors when handling invalid ISBN13 values | |
22:42 | * Chris Cormack: Fixing a double count of a developer and adding a new one to the history | |
22:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Amazon book covers do not work with ISBN13 |
22:43 | chris | Nate: you are in nz already!! |
22:43 | Nate | Yessiree! |
22:43 | * gmcharlt | pouts |
22:43 | chris | sweet, where you at? |
22:43 | Nate | Nomad backpackers |
22:44 | chris | cool, ill be dropping ian off there later today |
22:44 | Nate | Need to find food soon or I'll be on the news |
22:44 | wizzyrea_ | "crazy american tries to eat raw fish from harbor" |
22:44 | chris | ahh, 2 secs lemme check what my wife is up to, if she isnt coming into town i could meet you for lunch |
22:45 | Nate | Great! |
22:46 | chris | ahh, she is coming in .. rain cheque! |
22:46 | ill see you later today anyway im sure | |
22:46 | Nate | Sounds good |
22:46 | What time are you dropping by here? | |
22:46 | chris | they land at 3.10 |
22:46 | so prolly 4.30ish | |
22:47 | by the time clear customs etc | |
22:47 | Nate | Cool I'll make sure im here |
22:47 | chris | sweet |
22:47 | Nate | Off for sustenance |
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22:47 | chris | if you head out the hostel, turn right, then right |
22:47 | too late :) | |
22:48 | darling | lunch now anybody? |
22:48 | chris | im being picked up 12.30, so ill pass |
22:50 | nate is wandering around cuba street somehwere :) | |
22:50 | jcamins | chris: that sounds like a good place to find food... |
22:51 | chris | it is |
22:51 | jcamins | How is my desk a mess again? |
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23:33 | cyrixbmx | Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po? Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key." |
23:33 | But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�." | |
23:36 | hmmm I will go sleep then if someone know the response he can to reply me in private :) thanks | |
23:43 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f984ef69fccd8a163> |
23:48 | slef | @seen magnus |
23:48 | munin | slef: magnus was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <magnus> hiya wizzyrea_ |
23:49 | hudsonbot | Starting build 76 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) |
23:57 | Project Koha build (76): SUCCESS in 7 min 42 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/76/ | |
23:57 | Frédéric Demians: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded | |
23:57 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5303 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded |
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