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| 00:21 | Braedon left #koha | |
| 00:29 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
| 00:36 | chris | man, still going, gmcharlt is a machine |
| 00:36 | gmcharlt | and about to inflict yet more ugliness on TmplTokenizer to get the translatable-templates test case to pass |
| 00:37 | chris | i have a student who is dead keen to rewrite that, once he has template::toolkitted the templates so the ugliness shouldnt need to last too long :) |
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| 00:50 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
| 00:50 | gmcharlt | oops |
| 00:51 | just a sec | |
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| 00:54 | gmcharlt | hudsonbot: build Koha |
| 00:54 | hudsonbot | gmcharlt: job Koha build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds |
| 00:54 | Starting build 60 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:03 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: translator hack to avoid failure on opac-opensearch.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49b1576671be12575> |
| 01:09 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (60): SUCCESS in 14 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/60/ |
| 01:09 | Galen Charlton: translator hack to avoid failure on opac-opensearch.tmpl | |
| 01:09 | Starting build 61 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:09 | gmcharlt | chris: hudson now runs some of the author tests |
| 01:10 | in particular, it will now complain about broken or unstranslatable templates | |
| 01:10 | chris | awesome :) |
| 01:10 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 01:11 | wasabi | thanks galen! |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | ok, who wants to grab a tarball from git and do a fresh install on a clean box? |
| 01:13 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: defer rotating collections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a4ad881f041beb22> |
| 01:13 | chris | can do |
| 01:13 | gmcharlt | thanks |
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| 01:17 | chris | downloading now |
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| 01:19 | chris | running perl Makefile.PL |
| 01:20 | cool it checked for Business::ISBN | |
| 01:23 | ok, up to making now | |
| 01:23 | robin | while that other thing is being looked into, I may have to read through those commits and start prepping new packages. |
| 01:23 | chris | (it helps having a fresh squeeze instance handy) |
| 01:24 | *nod* | |
| 01:24 | ok make install | |
| 01:25 | pastebot | "chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Koha's files have now been ins" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/74 |
| 01:25 | chris | so far so good |
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| 01:26 | * richard | plans to set up a koha on my box at home this weekend - if it's raining |
| 01:27 | richard | might even dust off my copy of 'teach yourself perl in 21 days' |
| 01:27 | chris | :-) |
| 01:27 | perl mongers on tuesday night too | |
| 01:27 | you can listen to doug | |
| 01:27 | http://wellington.pm.org/ | |
| 01:28 | richard | ah yeah. someone entered it on our staff calendar |
| 01:30 | chris | and done, appears to have installed fine gmcharlt |
| 01:30 | at least im not getting any 500's anywhere | |
| 01:36 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 01:41 | chris: take a look at process 7413 on bugs | |
| 01:41 | for some reason prove xt/author/valid-templates.t is hanging on just that particular template | |
| 01:41 | chris | hmmmm |
| 01:42 | ill go look | |
| 01:42 | gmcharlt | it happily finishes if you kill it, but if you can figure out why it's hanging on marc21_field_007.tmpl, that would be great |
| 01:42 | doesn't happen to me on Debian | |
| 01:43 | robin | Of course, _now_ I find a patch I meant to send in but forgot to. |
| 01:43 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: mark 3.2.0 release candidate - DBrev 3.01.00.999 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2462ef3f08fb840a6> |
| 01:43 | chris | heh |
| 01:43 | gmcharlt: will do | |
| 01:43 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 01:44 | chris | or at lest will attempt too |
| 01:51 | that is weird | |
| 01:51 | i wonder what it is blocking on | |
| 01:54 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (61): SUCCESS in 45 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/61/ |
| 01:54 | Galen Charlton: defer rotating collections | |
| 01:54 | Starting build 62 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:54 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ |
| 02:01 | * chris_n | ssh's in to get the latest scoop on his production box |
| 02:03 | chris | interesting |
| 02:04 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (62): SUCCESS in 9 min 41 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/62/ |
| 02:04 | chris | prove xt/author/valid-templates.t |
| 02:04 | hudsonbot | Galen Charlton: mark 3.2.0 release candidate - DBrev 3.01.00.999 |
| 02:04 | chris | xt/author/valid-templates.t .. 1/? |
| 02:04 | it hung on the first one that time | |
| 02:04 | ctrl-c | |
| 02:04 | and then it hung on 15/ | |
| 02:04 | on my ubuntu box at work, its currently hung on 70 | |
| 02:05 | ohhh it got to 18/? that time | |
| 02:05 | chris_n: got an ubuntu machine handy? | |
| 02:05 | robin | aren't non-deterministic bugs fun? |
| 02:05 | chris_n | several aamof |
| 02:05 | chris | in a koha checkout |
| 02:05 | try running | |
| 02:05 | prove xt/author/valid-templates.t | |
| 02:06 | i wonder if its ram | |
| 02:06 | chris_n | running now |
| 02:07 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 184.0.137.59 pasted "prove xt/author/valid-templates.t" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 |
| 02:07 | chris_n | and we're hung |
| 02:07 | chris | yeah it does seem to be an ubuntu thing |
| 02:09 | hm or maybe not, it just did it on a lenny box for me too | |
| 02:10 | * robin | prepares packages |
| 02:11 | chris | gmcharlt: well on 3 different machiens, 2 lucid one lenny, i can get it to hang .. at random places .. i have no idea what its doing |
| 02:11 | gmcharlt | heh - and yet it never hangs for me |
| 02:11 | * chris_n | gets bit by the new dep again :-\ |
| 02:12 | chris_n | hung on lucid for me |
| 02:12 | chris | if i try running it this way |
| 02:13 | perl xt/author/valid-templates.t | |
| 02:13 | ok 97 - no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_140.tmpl | |
| 02:13 | is where it seems to be stopping | |
| 02:13 | on my desktop | |
| 02:14 | * chris_n | wonders if he is the first one to have the RC in production use ;-) |
| 02:14 | chris | ok 20 - no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_100.tmpl |
| 02:14 | on bugs | |
| 02:16 | chris_n | hmm |
| 02:16 | fails on 247 | |
| 02:16 | 249 | |
| 02:16 | and hangs on | |
| 02:16 | chris | yeah its random :) |
| 02:16 | chris_n | 262 |
| 02:17 | fails the same every run on this box | |
| 02:17 | chris | oh so it does |
| 02:17 | but different on every box :) | |
| 02:18 | gmcharlt: want me to update http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ ? | |
| 02:18 | gmcharlt | chris: just a moment |
| 02:18 | chris | nengard made a point of telling me i had to update it :-) |
| 02:20 | chris_n | fails on value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl |
| 02:20 | weirdness | |
| 02:20 | * chris_n | is off to drink coffee with his wife |
| 02:20 | chris | right thats what gmcharlt said |
| 02:20 | so yeah its that file | |
| 02:20 | * chris | tries an expirement |
| 02:21 | chris | yeah, mved the file .. it completed fine |
| 02:24 | it is one of the bigger templates | |
| 02:25 | 322k | |
| 02:25 | K even | |
| 02:25 | gmcharlt | chris_n: isn't it a bit late to be drinking coffee? :) |
| 02:26 | chris | yeah nothing (including the xslt) comes close to the same size |
| 02:26 | i wonder if its just that | |
| 02:30 | robin | woah, I just had a huge bunch of tests fail. |
| 02:30 | oh. missing module. | |
| 02:30 | hmm | |
| 02:31 | chris | Business::ISBN ? |
| 02:31 | thats a new one | |
| 02:32 | robin | yeah, that's the one |
| 02:39 | chris_n | gmcharlt: never too late to drink coffee with my wife ;-) |
| 02:41 | chris | ahh it gets stuck in here |
| 02:41 | while (<CHILD_ERR>) { | |
| 02:42 | jcamins_a | That's an ironic juxtaposition. |
| 02:42 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 02:43 | jcamins | Is chris_n Jr teething? ;) |
| 02:43 | robin | for the interested, these are the dep changes: + libbusiness-isbn-perl, |
| 02:43 | + libnet-server-perl, | |
| 02:43 | - libtest-harness-perl | perl-modules, | |
| 02:43 | + libuniversal-require-perl, | |
| 02:43 | chris_n | jcamins: after four there will be no more teething in this house unless it is grandchildren and then they will be promptly sent home :-) |
| 02:44 | jcamins | chris_n: fair enough. |
| 02:45 | chris | with licorice |
| 02:45 | chris_n | jcamins: our oldest is 15 and youngest is 4 and each one is very dear |
| 02:46 | actually our oldest daughter takes care of putting the youngest daughter to bed each night, so that explains why we were having coffee | |
| 02:46 | chris | :) |
| 02:46 | my two are at the annoy each other phase | |
| 02:47 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/4985102611/ even when sick .. you must poke your sleeping brother in the nose | |
| 02:47 | chris_n | still happens around here on occasion |
| 02:48 | that is funny :) | |
| 02:49 | * chris_n | wonders if the test failure has anything to do with that line ending in '--gmc'... ;-) |
| 02:53 | chris_n | check this out |
| 02:53 | ./test_template.pl ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl | |
| 02:53 | Pro.xs: non-zero exit code 3 at /usr/lib/perl5/HTML/Template/Pro.pm line 200. | |
| 02:54 | * chris_n | wonders why that does not come in <CHILD_ERR>? |
| 02:55 | chris | yeah it seems to get stuck in that while loop forever |
| 02:57 | darling | happy 3.2.0 everybody |
| 02:57 | Topic for #koha is now Happy 3.2.0 Release Candidate day | |
| 02:59 | chris_n | I think that error is being pushed out CHILD_OUT rather than CHILD_ERR |
| 03:04 | gmcharlt | chris_n: the third argument is missing |
| 03:05 | it should be something like | |
| 03:05 | ./test_template.pl ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/ | |
| 03:05 | chris_n | interesting |
| 03:05 | gmcharlt | or second argument rather |
| 03:05 | chris_n | if I just parse through the contents of the CHILD_OUT handle, the test runs fine |
| 03:05 | gmcharlt | it's the path to the include dir |
| 03:05 | chris_n | right |
| 03:05 | robin | Hey folks, new Koha packages uploaded! |
| 03:05 | gmcharlt | robin++ |
| 03:06 | chris_n | chris: try this and see if things fly ok |
| 03:06 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 184.0.137.59 pasted "return sub { return unless -f" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76 |
| 03:08 | chris_n | gmcharlt: running with the include path yields this: |
| 03:08 | built-in find_file: can't find file popup-bottom.inc (included from ../../koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl) with path = [ 'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes' ] | |
| 03:09 | opps | |
| 03:09 | runs fine now | |
| 03:09 | * chris_n | scratches his head |
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| 03:10 | robin | gmcharlt: just added an installation patch on bug #5288 |
| 03:10 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5288 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Business::ISBN isn't specified as a dependency |
| 03:10 | gmcharlt | chris_n: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=150748 is relevant here |
| 03:11 | perldoc IPC::Open3 indicates that we need to be more careful with the IO, since we've set readers for both stdout and stderr in the open3 call | |
| 03:11 | chris | ahh yeah |
| 03:11 | gmcharlt | your http://paste.koha-community.org/76 |
| 03:11 | paste helps by ensuring that stdout is read | |
| 03:11 | but I think it would still be subject to the possiblity of deadlock | |
| 03:13 | chris | yeah |
| 03:13 | i think that is what is happening, some kinda deadlock, possibly triggered by the length of the file | |
| 03:15 | gmcharlt | robin: patch pushed |
| 03:15 | robin | gmcharlt: sweet :) |
| 03:16 | chris_n | so is reading stdout an acceptable workaround for the time being? |
| 03:16 | gmcharlt | for the moment, but stick in a big fat FIXME, please |
| 03:16 | chris | :) |
| 03:16 | * gmcharlt | is going to bed |
| 03:16 | gmcharlt | good night |
| 03:17 | chris | yeah that will stop hudson hanging for the moment |
| 03:17 | thanks heaps gmcharlt | |
| 03:17 | sleep well you earned it | |
| 03:18 | chris_n | g'night gmcharlt |
| 03:19 | robin | cya |
| 03:21 | chris_n | still fails 2 tests, but does finish now |
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| 03:22 | hudsonbot | Starting build 63 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:23 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5288 - Update package dependencies, control source details <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80796fb53eb2bee9a> |
| 03:24 | chris_n | gmcharlt: patch sent to the list |
| 03:26 | ok, off to bed | |
| 03:27 | chris | night chris_n |
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| 03:56 | chris | http://twitter.com/thesethings/status/26609256654 |
| 03:59 | Braedon | *cough* sun/oracle *cough* |
| 04:01 | * Braedon | wonders how one would say 'slash' while covering with a cough... |
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| 05:17 | chris | heh |
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| 05:32 | fredericd | Thanks all for the today RC |
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| 06:44 | magnus | woohoo! |
| 06:45 | chris | heh |
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| 07:01 | chris | hi hdl happy 3.2.0 day ;) |
| 07:01 | hdl | chris: wOOOt |
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| 07:10 | kf | good morning #koha :) |
| 07:10 | chris | hiya kf |
| 07:12 | kf | morning chris :) |
| 07:12 | nice to wake up to rc 1 :) | |
| 07:13 | chris | yup ;) |
| 07:20 | magnus | guten morgen, kf |
| 07:20 | kf | morning magnus :) |
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| 07:22 | kf | chris: BSZ-DW? |
| 07:22 | tance | hello |
| 07:22 | magnus | hi tance |
| 07:22 | chris | its picked that up from your email |
| 07:23 | kf | can you change to BSZ-BW? BW is for the state baden württemberg :) |
| 07:23 | chris | yup will do |
| 07:23 | tance | i have a problem with koha permisions |
| 07:23 | kf | thx :) |
| 07:24 | tance | i have bullt a koha for diferent libraires |
| 07:24 | i have turn on independentBranch on | |
| 07:24 | kf | ah, the translation is pushing us - I wondered why we are ranked so high |
| 07:25 | tance | but users can modify delete books of the aother libraries |
| 07:25 | try it | |
| 07:25 | http://shkollaime.com:8080 | |
| 07:25 | usr demo | |
| 07:25 | pass demo | |
| 07:26 | make a search with the letter 'a' | |
| 07:26 | and you will see what im saying | |
| 07:26 | chris | kf: better now? |
| 07:27 | kf | tance: I cant delete them from edit items screen, the links are missing |
| 07:28 | chris: yes, much better, thx! | |
| 07:28 | tance: but I am not sure I should try out 'delete all items' | |
| 07:29 | tance | did you try in my site? |
| 07:29 | kf | yes |
| 07:29 | I searched for a, opened the first book with edit items | |
| 07:29 | tance | is the option to delete all items |
| 07:30 | and then you can delete and the recordù | |
| 07:30 | record | |
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| 07:32 | tance | any idea |
| 07:32 | ????? | |
| 07:32 | kf | delete item is a quite new feature |
| 07:32 | I can imagine it is a bug | |
| 07:32 | ivanc | hallo #koha |
| 07:32 | kf | delete all items |
| 07:33 | hi ivanc | |
| 07:33 | ivanc | guten morgen kf |
| 07:34 | tance | Wie geht's! |
| 07:34 | kf | gut ;) |
| 07:36 | ivanc | gut |
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| 07:39 | tance | how to fix this bug |
| 07:39 | does any body know?????? | |
| 07:40 | kf | tance: which version of koha are you using? |
| 07:41 | tance | koha 3.06 |
| 07:41 | kf | tance: you could hide the link with jquery until the bug is fixed - and to get it fixed you should file a bug report, naming the version of koha you are using and your settings |
| 07:41 | 3.2 is really near - but I am not sure how this works there | |
| 07:50 | tance | you mean version 3.00.02 or 3.2 |
| 07:55 | kf | I mean 3.2 |
| 07:56 | you are using 3.00.06 | |
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| 08:17 | tance | but 3.2 is not stable version |
| 08:23 | chris | release candidate released today |
| 08:23 | its in use in numerous libraries in production already | |
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| 08:25 | CGI818 | hi ALL |
| 08:26 | can I know why after I success installed koha. but i cannot search the book title from catalog after I add one record in cataloging | |
| 08:26 | chris | what version of koha? |
| 08:26 | CGI818 | 3.0.6 |
| 08:27 | hdl | zebra not launched ? |
| 08:27 | CGI818 | how i can check it is launched or set it from ? |
| 08:27 | chris | did you follow the instructions for setting up zebra? |
| 08:28 | CGI818 | related to Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.25? |
| 08:29 | chris | no |
| 08:29 | what version of linux are you running ? | |
| 08:30 | CGI818 | ubuntu 10 |
| 08:30 | chris | in the INSTALL.debian-lenny instructions its section 5 |
| 08:31 | 10.10 ? or 10.04? | |
| 08:31 | section 5 in INSTALL.ubuntu too | |
| 08:33 | CGI818 | 10.04 |
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| 09:03 | CGI124 | tq christ. i can search catolog now after i configure zebra and reboot |
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| 09:16 | CGI124 | can i know what is the purpose for Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
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| 09:16 | CGI124 | can i know what is the purpose for Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 09:59 | hdl | CGI124: it is the search query and get results package |
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| 10:58 | larsw | oh, wow, I'm mentioned in the RC announcement |
| 10:59 | * larsw | suspects it is good for karma to make large numbers of very small commits :) |
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| 11:04 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Adding a temporary workaround to keep template tests from borking on very large templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66e9623af92b2ad62> |
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| 11:32 | chris_n | @later tell chris hudson is hung up |
| 11:32 | munin | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:39 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (63): ABORTED in 8 hr 16 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/63/ |
| 11:39 | Galen Charlton: Bug 5288 - Update package dependencies, control source details | |
| 11:39 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5288 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Business::ISBN isn't specified as a dependency |
| 11:39 | hudsonbot | Starting build 64 for job Koha (previous build: ABORTED -- last ABORTED #63 8 hr 17 min ago) |
| 11:41 | chris_n | @later tell chris fixed hudson |
| 11:41 | munin | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:47 | hudsonbot | Project Koha build (64): SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/64/ |
| 11:47 | Galen Charlton: Adding a temporary workaround to keep template tests from borking on very large templates | |
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| 12:18 | druthb | hi, owen. :) |
| 12:19 | owen | Hi druthb and #koha |
| 12:20 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 12:21 | jwagner | morning all. Looks like gmcharlt has been busy :-) |
| 12:21 | Is it in final stage yet? i.e., ready to do a git pull? | |
| 12:22 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 12:23 | owen | "Pending confirmation of successful installations and upgrades, this will become the general release of 3.2.0" |
| 12:23 | As someone once said | |
| 12:23 | gmcharlt | note that there's a new Perl dependency, Business::ISBN, that you'll need to install when you upgrade |
| 12:23 | owen: I wonder who that might have been | |
| 12:23 | owen | A wise man. |
| 12:23 | jwagner | Yeah, I've already run into that one. But given that hudson still seems to be churning away, I wasn't sure things were really done. |
| 12:24 | * owen | doesn't think there is ever a done |
| 12:24 | * chris_n | fixed hudson earlier |
| 12:24 | * gmcharlt | should have written a test case for the test case ;) |
| 12:24 | chris_n | he was hung on the template test deadlock issue |
| 12:25 | which is now fixed | |
| 12:25 | * chris_n | runs away screaming.... tests of tests.... aaaahhhhh! |
| 12:26 | * druthb | sets up the "infinite recursion" warning flag. |
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| 12:31 | * gmcharlt | writes a test case for infinite recursion |
| 12:33 | kf | hi druthb and jwagner |
| 12:33 | jwagner | Guten tag, kf |
| 12:34 | druthb | hi, kf. :) |
| 12:38 | * owen | finishes reading the log from last night and now has the Portal song in his head |
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| 12:38 | briceSanc | hello |
| 12:43 | My Koha is connected to the Koha Git community and since yesterday nothing works, however Git tells me that I am already up to date. Any idea of the problem? | |
| 12:43 | The main error is : Can't locate Business/ISBN.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/var/sites/master.koha.sys-tech.net/src /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha/var/sites/master.koha.sys-tech.net/src/C4/Koha.pm line 27. | |
| 12:43 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha/var/sites/master.koha.sys-tech.net/src/C4/Koha.pm line 27. | |
| 12:43 | owen | briceSanc: Business/ISBN.pm is a new dependency |
| 12:44 | briceSanc | ok what do i need to do ? |
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| 12:45 | magnus | briceSanc: sudo apt-get install libbusiness-isbn-perl |
| 12:46 | briceSanc | it seems to work |
| 12:46 | Koha ask me to update the database | |
| 12:46 | thanks owen and magnus ! | |
| 12:48 | jwagner | gmcharlt, one minor puzzlement -- the version number after a git pull now says 3.01.00.999. Will that change to 3.2 at some point? |
| 12:49 | gmcharlt | it will flip to 3.01.00.000 (or 3.01.00.001, etc., in the unlikely event that DB updates are needed) upon general release |
| 12:49 | jwagner | OK, I wondered if that was the "flipping" point. Thanks. |
| 12:50 | er, did you mean 3.02.00.000? | |
| 12:51 | gmcharlt | ah, yes |
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| 12:51 | jwagner | Been a long couple of days, huh :-) |
| 12:53 | briceSanc | is there a changelog for this new version of Koha? |
| 12:54 | owen | briceSanc: I don't think there is yet. Usually it comes with the official release |
| 12:55 | gmcharlt | briceSanc: full release notes for 3.0->3.2 are still in process; as far as the beta->RC is concerned, changes have mostly been bugfixes |
| 12:55 | briceSanc | ok because i search what is modified in the database |
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| 13:15 | * sekjal | throws confetti as he walks in |
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| 13:26 | owen | sekjal: I think everyone's hung over |
| 13:28 | sekjal | owen: fair enough, I suppose. it's been a long time comin'. |
| 13:28 | well, time to work on 3.2.1 | |
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| 13:28 | jcamins | Morning, 3koha |
| 13:29 | * owen | is curious what kinds of bug-fix patches will make it into 3.2.1 |
| 13:29 | sekjal | owen: I've got a list I'm targeting |
| 13:29 | jcamins | That was supposed to be #koha, by the way. |
| 13:35 | kf | morning jcmains :) |
| 13:36 | I am working on the record samples - hope to have it ready tomorrow | |
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| 13:41 | chris_n | owen: any bug-fixes which make it into stable HEAD will be applied to 3.2.x |
| 13:41 | owen | At what point does HEAD become 3.4.x ? |
| 13:42 | chris_n | once 3.4 is released |
| 13:42 | we are shooting for keeping HEAD stable going forward | |
| 13:43 | 3.2.x will not diverge from HEAD with the exception of new features | |
| 13:43 | sekjal | so 3.2.x will have new features that aren't in HEAD? |
| 13:43 | chris_n | no |
| 13:43 | owen | Oh now I'm really confused |
| 13:44 | chris_n | 3.2.x will not have new features which may end up in HEAD |
| 13:44 | sekjal | it seems to me that 3.2.x should be a proper subset (when looking at commits) of what's in HEAD |
| 13:44 | chris_n | simply put, I will be cherry-picking bug-fixes from HEAD back into 3.2.x |
| 13:45 | correct | |
| 13:45 | sekjal | okay, good |
| 13:45 | chris_n | only new features will not appear in 3.2.x |
| 13:45 | bug-fixes and things that are truly enhancements to existing features will appear in 3.2.x | |
| 13:45 | sekjal | and new features should all have their own branches, based of HEAD (or close to), right? |
| 13:46 | chris_n | yup |
| 13:46 | sekjal | why not add new features to 3.2.x, if they're ready in master? |
| 13:46 | chris_n | new features should only make it into HEAD *after* they are stable |
| 13:47 | ebegin | Hey! Why do we need to call zebraqueue deamon when the ModZebra function is called when a bib is modified? |
| 13:47 | chris_n | sekjal: so we don't compete with 3.4 as well as the administrative burden of major changes often introduced by new features |
| 13:48 | sekjal | chris_n: ah... I think I get it |
| 13:48 | it would be best not to have to retrain librarians when the upgrade from 3.2.0 to 3.2.1 | |
| 13:48 | ebegin | sekjal, and new features as high probability to add new bugs |
| 13:49 | s/as/have/ | |
| 13:49 | sekjal | but upgrading 3.2.2 to 3.4, it makes sense to do more training |
| 13:50 | ebegin: but we're all going to write flawless code this time around, right? | |
| 13:50 | * gmcharlt | *snorts* |
| 13:50 | owen | sekjal: What did you mean by a list you were "targeting" |
| 13:51 | sekjal | owen: I've got several bugs on my to-tackle list that I'm hoping to have ready before 3.2.1 would be ready for release |
| 13:51 | owen | gmcharlt: Aren't we agile enough? |
| 13:51 | sekjal | bug 4945, for one |
| 13:51 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
| 13:51 | ebegin | yep, that why new features shouldn't be introduced in the beta/RC stage |
| 13:51 | sekjal | bug 5266 is another |
| 13:51 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5266 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron Search Produces Incorrectly Sorted and Missing Results |
| 13:51 | chris_n | perfect code! |
| 13:52 | ebegin | We wish... Even the NASA, who spends thousands of $ in multistages of code review/approval, has bugs |
| 13:52 | owen | That's the reason LEK has never been made public. The code is so perfect we'd go blind from gazing upon it. |
| 13:53 | ebegin | A computer does what you tell it to do, not what you thing you tell it to do ;) |
| 13:53 | s/thing/think/ | |
| 13:54 | sekjal | owen: LEK is what's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction |
| 13:54 | owen | :D |
| 13:54 | ebegin | about my question... why do we need to call rebuild_zebra every once a while again? |
| 13:55 | owen | Which, incidentally, is how certain people can have been involved in open source ilses for "15 years" |
| 13:56 | sekjal | Mercurian years? |
| 13:56 | gmcharlt | ebegin: ModZebra just adds an entry to zebraqueue signalling that the record needs to be reindexed |
| 13:56 | it's rebuild_zebra.pl -z that actually does the indexing | |
| 13:56 | ebegin | gmcharlt, was it always like that? |
| 13:57 | gmcharlt | yes - there has never been instantaneous direct updates of the zebra index |
| 13:57 | sekjal | ... actually, Mercurian years would be about right, I think.... |
| 13:57 | gmcharlt | are you thinking of NoZebra mode, perchance? |
| 13:58 | ebegin | nope. in zebra mode... |
| 13:59 | I was using zebraqueue deamon for a while. I stopped it and when I save a record, the changes are indexed right away | |
| 13:59 | what king of amazed me... | |
| 13:59 | what kind of amazed me... | |
| 14:00 | jwagner | owen, as I stated yesterday and has been stated previously, the LEK code release is controlled by the terms of a contract we inherited. When the terms of that contract are fulfilled, the code will be released. I'm sorry you don't seem to be able to believe that simple statement of fact. |
| 14:00 | It's not something we can change. | |
| 14:01 | owen | jwagner: I'm just riffing on the statements made by Liblime's previous head, who condemned the entire open source Koha project as incompetent compared to Liblime's fabulous code |
| 14:02 | ebegin | gmcharlt, but you are right, the ModZebra code just updates the zebraqueue table... what else coud force the update then...?!? |
| 14:02 | jwagner | "Liblime's previous head" -- was not apparent from your comments. Thus, anyone who reads it would assume you were referring to us. This disturbs me. |
| 14:03 | As has also been said on multiple occasions, PTFS had no control over any of Liblime's actions before the purchase. Many of those actions were specifically hostile to us, in fact. We are now trying to repair the damage as well as supporting our current clients. | |
| 14:08 | owen | jwagner: Promises were made to me by Joshua Ferraro. Promises which are still unfulfilled. PTFS "bought" those promises along with Liblime. |
| 14:08 | One of those promises was: LEK will be released "soon" to the public | |
| 14:11 | jwagner | see statement above about contract status -- the client has to accept everything done under that contract before any of it can be released. We'd like very much to release what's already done, but we are not legally permitted to. |
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| 14:18 | * druthb | would love to settle all this business with a couple of "git push"es...but resuming homelessness and unemployment are not in her career goals. |
| 14:21 | owen | druthb: I hope for PTFS developers' sake that someone is keeping a LEK repo synced with HEAD |
| 14:21 | But "Harley" suggests that this is not the case | |
| 14:22 | druthb | LEK is quite a bit farther behind. An artifact that we inherited in an already-bad state, and getting progressively worse. It's an issue I raise very regularly--for both repos--in our dev meetings. |
| 14:23 | owen | I'm glad you're keeping the issue on the table |
| 14:24 | druthb | getting either one up to a 3.2 base is going to be a non-trivially-hard bit of work, that will take our seriously-underpowered dev team a good bit of effort to do. I keep saying so... |
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| 14:35 | SJeffery | Alright, where is that page that lists all of the Koha demo sites? |
| 14:35 | owen | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_Demo_Databases |
| 14:37 | Does Liblime even support "Koha Community" anymore? | |
| 14:37 | SJeffery | In what sense? |
| 14:37 | owen | It's not important SJeffery, just musing. |
| 14:38 | SJeffery | It is important:) |
| 14:39 | owen | At one time Liblime offered its customers an out-of-date version of the official Koha release, calling it "Koha Community" |
| 14:39 | ...as an alternative to their Koha forks. | |
| 14:40 | I know some Liblime customers are now on "Harley", so I assumed that "Koha Community" was being phased out | |
| 14:40 | SJeffery | Ah. I will find out in the very near future, we are supposed to start using them in the very near future and will need to talk to them about available versions. |
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| 14:52 | owen | Hi nengard |
| 14:53 | nengard | howdy all |
| 14:53 | druthb | hi, nengard |
| 14:53 | nengard | just got back from PT and am happy to get to just sit here and not move my legs!! :) |
| 14:57 | SJeffery | I know that feeling. |
| 14:58 | nengard | i'd rather be napping ... but hey i'll take sitting :) hehe |
| 14:59 | SJeffery | I'd rather be napping, but I am at work, grr. |
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| 15:09 | cyrixbmx | I have a question. I uploaded the file "fr-CA-pref.po" who have a size of 146 000 bytes in the folder "src/misc/translator/po" and after I execute this command "./translate -p install fr-CA" but the command change my file "fr-CA-pref.po" and the new file have 89 000 bytes and have no traduction. Since the file "fr-CA-pref.po" have no traduction then my interface is in english. Why the command "./translate -p install fr-CA" change my file? Excuse me f |
| 15:09 | or my poor english. | |
| 15:10 | briceSanc | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5281 |
| 15:10 | munin | 04Bug 5281: trivial, P5, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time |
| 15:10 | briceSanc | the fix for bug 5281 is out ! |
| 15:10 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5281 trivial, P5, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time |
| 15:11 | jcamins | SJeffery: interesting message in response to your message on AUTOCAT. |
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| 15:13 | jcamins | I am still inclined to use a 773/774 combination, with kf's awesome linking enhancements, though. If you treat analytics as a series, you have a problem with item records (assuming you want item records, of course). |
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| 15:15 | mib_0obl6 | Hello all - I get the error below when I enable XSLDetailDisplay and XSLResultsDisplay, they problem I think is the "koha-tmpl" path, any ideas? |
| 15:16 | Could not create file parser context for file "../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 16 | |
| 15:16 | owen | What version mib_0obl6 ? |
| 15:17 | mib_0obl6 | 3.06 |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | o yes, this seems familiar to me |
| 15:18 | mib_0obl6 | me too - :-) |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | does the file exist? |
| 15:20 | if it doesn't, you might be able to put in the version from git, I recall having this problem a few months ago myself | |
| 15:20 | mib_0obl6 | nope, not in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt but just ../opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt |
| 15:20 | but can find where or why its looking to that path | |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | what is the directory above opac-tmpl |
| 15:21 | in your install | |
| 15:22 | mib_0obl6 | htdocs |
| 15:23 | which I think is the norm....isn't it? | |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | hm. Did you do the dev install or standard install? |
| 15:23 | mib_0obl6 | standard.....it was an upgrade thought, from 3.05, which is concerning me a little |
| 15:24 | so the original install was standard | |
| 15:24 | SJeffery | jcamins: Yeah, still working through it. I am creating a record in OCLC for a proceedings (the 4th in this series) right now, then will do an analytic of one of the articles as an example. I have everything done but the series stuff right now. Btw, do you have any examples of how Koha displays an enhanced 505? Trying to figure out if it is worth doing enhance |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | hm shouldn't matter (shouldn't) |
| 15:24 | jcamins | SJeffery: at the moment Koha doesn't really do enhanced 505s. |
| 15:25 | SJeffery | *sigh* Adds that to the list |
| 15:25 | Does it at least display them? | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | I'm not sure. |
| 15:25 | Let me check. | |
| 15:25 | * chris_n | moves over Release Team pages from the old wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Community_Roles |
| 15:25 | SJeffery | Having a hell of a time with all the demo sites out there for some reason, might just be our proxy though. |
| 15:26 | chris_n | I've also begun moving over the current release team proposals; they are linked to in the aforementioned page |
| 15:26 | mib_0obl6 | wizzyrea: do you know where the parser gets the path from? |
| 15:26 | jcamins | SJeffery: it shows $t only. |
| 15:26 | However, that would be a really easy fix. | |
| 15:27 | Actually, complete support for enhanced 505s would be very easy. | |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | I don't, actually. a temporary way around it is to turn off xslt for the OPAC |
| 15:27 | not as purty, but at least functional | |
| 15:27 | SJeffery | jcamins: Yeah, not sure why it isn't already in there. Just a formatted display would be easy enough. |
| 15:27 | mib_0obl6 | I know, but I need the XSLT on to get the display the way I want |
| 15:28 | jcamins | SJeffery: I suspect because so few libraries enhance their 505s. |
| 15:28 | mib_0obl6: let me check something. Hold on. | |
| 15:28 | mib_0obl6 | sure |
| 15:30 | SJeffery | jcamins: I don't get that...I mean, if you are spending the time to put in a 505 it should be only add a little bit more time to do it enhanced (compared to the overall record creation time), and it isn't like more than .1% of books would ever need it. |
| 15:30 | jcamins | intrahtdocs |
| 15:30 | owen | OPAC XSLT is working for me in my 3.0.x test install |
| 15:30 | LBA | Just popped in and saw the happy news! Congrats to all! |
| 15:30 | owen | It's ahead of 3.0.6, but I'm not sure what's different |
| 15:30 | jcamins | mib_0obl6: that was in answer to your question. |
| 15:31 | owen | Thanks LBA! |
| 15:31 | jcamins | mib_0obl6: actually, make that opachtdocs |
| 15:32 | mib_0obl6 | opachtdocs ? |
| 15:32 | jcamins | SJeffery: if you don't collect conference proceedings, you don't need any fields other than $t. |
| 15:32 | It looks like that's the syspref... not that I can figure out how to edit it. | |
| 15:33 | SJeffery | Jcamins: It is like finding out the easter bunny is not real....that "professional catalogers" take shortcuts and make mistakes in records like the rest of us. |
| 15:34 | jcamins | SJeffery: heh. I suppose a bit. |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt | SJeffery: yep, alas, the typo-free cataloging gods no longer live among us |
| 15:35 | jcamins | Did they ever? |
| 15:35 | mib_0obl6 | I think I might be onto something. The syspref.sql that is run from the installer has that path above (koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl) |
| 15:35 | at least I can see where it came from now | |
| 15:36 | jcamins | Anyway, my wife's here to join me for lunch (she's been staying with my parents all week, so I haven't seen her since Sunday), so I will rejoin this conversation a bit later. |
| 15:36 | SJeffery | Cya |
| 15:37 | mib_0obl6 | slán |
| 15:42 | kf | bye all |
| 15:42 | chris_n | sekjal: for an outline of my plans for 3.2.x maintenance, see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]elease_Maintainer |
| 15:43 | kf | chris_n: why do you have to post that now? I can't leave if interesting things happen :) |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
| 15:43 | chris_n | kf: I only moved it over from the old wiki |
| 15:44 | many good things are still over there which need to be moved | |
| 15:44 | sekjal | thanks, chris_n! |
| 15:44 | kf | I am not sure I ge the time frame |
| 15:45 | From 3.2.stable to 3.4.stable Release once every 30 days or as bug fixes are available whichever is longer. | |
| 15:45 | so 3.2.x are released every 30 days? | |
| 15:45 | chris_n | correct |
| 15:45 | kf | From 3.4.stable to X.X.stable ? |
| 15:45 | chris_n | assuming there are bug-fixes in that timeframe |
| 15:45 | kf | yep |
| 15:46 | LBA | Picking up on someone else's question about whether PTFS/Liblime supports ANY clients on official Koha...I've asked John Yokley AND Northwest Arkanasa Community College whether they were actually on official Koha or Harley or LEK but have not gotten a clear answer. Marshall Breeding report states "...Liblime is the provider for their neew ILS of choice, Koha." I asked Marshall...he doesn't know either. |
| 15:46 | kf | what about the second line? |
| 15:46 | chris_n | X is unknown |
| 15:46 | "to be decided" | |
| 15:46 | kf | ? |
| 15:47 | chris_n | will it be 3.6 or 3.8... we will make that decision at a later point in time |
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| 15:47 | chris_n | basically it will be determined by how long we decide that 3.2.x should be maintained |
| 15:47 | kf | so you aim for a 90 days cycle between major releases? |
| 15:47 | chris_n | correct |
| 15:47 | kf | ah |
| 15:47 | thx :) | |
| 15:47 | chris_n | at some point we will end-of-life 3.2.x |
| 15:48 | owen | LBA: That's one of the problems with Marshall Breeding's announcements, he doesn't ask questions about actual versions in use |
| 15:48 | If PTFS says "Koha," he reports Koha. | |
| 15:48 | cyrixbmx | I have a question. I uploaded the file "fr-CA-pref.po" who have a size of 146 000 bytes in the folder "src/misc/translator/po" and after I execute this command "./translate -p install fr-CA" but the command change my file "fr-CA-pref.po" and the new file have 89 000 bytes and have no traduction. Since the file "fr-CA-pref.po" have no traduction then my interface is in english. Why the command "./translate -p install fr-CA" change my file? Excuse me f |
| 15:48 | or my poor english. | |
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| 15:48 | kf | ok. leaving now :) bye al! |
| 15:48 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:49 | LBA | If it says "Koha" it had better not be LEK or Harley...just sayin' |
| 15:49 | owen | LBA: I'd be surprised if any of the "Koha" migrations PTFS has announced are real Koha installations |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | afaik LEK is only in use by current customers, new folks are using PTFS Master (but I don't work there, I don't really know) |
| 15:52 | owen | And "PTFS Master" is built on Harley? |
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| 15:55 | wizzyrea | that would be my experience, yes. |
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| 16:09 | brendan | morning all |
| 16:09 | rhcl_away | hi brendan |
| 16:09 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 16:12 | nengard | keep forgetting the -s in my sign off patches |
| 16:12 | so they're not really signed off on | |
| 16:12 | sorry for the duplicate emails all | |
| 16:14 | mib_0obl6 | Hi, again.....I have managed to find my problem with the XSLTDisplay and Results page. The systempreference table has a path to the XSL file which was incorrect, however, I can't seem to figure out what path it should be |
| 16:14 | pointing to....any ideas? | |
| 16:18 | mag_away is now known as magnus | |
| 16:22 | mib_0obl6 | Ah - never mind, fixed it without using relative paths, for some reason it didn't like them, so used absolute paths instead....working now! |
| 16:30 | SJeffery | Jcamins: Back yet? Have an interesting cataloging question :) |
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| 16:34 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:35 | * druthb | hides behind cait. |
| 16:35 | cait | hey :) |
| 16:35 | SJeffery | mornin |
| 16:35 | cait | *turns around so she is hiding behind druthb* |
| 16:35 | SJeffery not morning in my case - dinner time :) | |
| 16:36 | owen | Not morning, not dinner time, lunch time! |
| 16:36 | cait | :) |
| 16:37 | magnus | guten abend, cait & #koha |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | nengard: limesurvey is neat |
| 16:38 | nengard | I KNOW!!! |
| 16:38 | :) hehe | |
| 16:39 | I love it, it was one of the best open source finds in my book | |
| 16:39 | cait | hi magnus :) |
| 16:41 | fredericd | gmcharlt: warning, 3.2 RC has kohaversion.pl indicating a 3.01.00.999 version |
| 16:42 | http://tinyurl.com/23toymx | |
| 16:42 | owen | gmcharlt said earlier, "it will flip to 3.02.00.000 (or 3.02.00.001, etc., in the unlikely event that DB updates are needed) upon general release" |
| 16:43 | fredericd | thks owen |
| 16:44 | * magnus | hopes nengard's book arrives before the trip to kohacon ;-) |
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| 16:47 | druthb is now known as drb_food | |
| 16:51 | nengard | magnus - nengard hopes her book arrives before the trip as well :( |
| 16:51 | yes that's right - the author still hasn't seen the book!!! | |
| 16:51 | magnus | ouch! |
| 16:51 | nengard | i haven't seen it in print that is - of course I've editing it electronically |
| 16:52 | SJeffery | What book? |
| 16:52 | nengard | http://opensource.web2learning.net |
| 16:52 | Practical Open Source Software for Libraries | |
| 16:52 | magnus | heh, you could have had a ghost writer, i guess ;-) |
| 16:53 | nengard | not me - i'm too much of a control freak :) |
| 16:54 | jcamins | SJeffery: now I'm back. |
| 16:55 | SJeffery | Jcamins: Hey, just trying to figure out cataloging of the proceedings itself as a monograph. So if the conferece is the 111, should the exact same name be duplicated in the 490, 611, AND 811? |
| 16:55 | jcamins | I would do the following: |
| 16:56 | Conference in 111 and 811. | |
| 16:59 | Sorry, got called away for a moment. | |
| 17:00 | Conference in 111 and 811. 490 would be the commonly-used name (for example "Coinage of the Americas Conference ; v. 10." | |
| 17:00 | I probably would not put the conference in 611. | |
| 17:04 | SJeffery | The conference name is one of those two-parters with an acronym (MININ 2010 International Conference on Mining Innovation). Everything else I was putting under "International Conference on Mining Innovation" but put "MININ" for the 490? |
| 17:05 | jcamins | That's what I'd probably do. |
| 17:05 | But with numismatics, people are more likely to *recognize* the abbreviation than the actual name. | |
| 17:08 | SJeffery | About 50/50 from what I have seen in mining |
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| 17:09 | jcamins | You could also use "International Conference on Mining Innovation" for the 490, of course. |
| 17:13 | chris | morning |
| 17:13 | chris_n: thanks for the hudson fix | |
| 17:16 | cait | morning chris |
| 17:19 | SJeffery | So I am thinking 111, 490, and 811 for the monograph record, then the same 490 and 811 + 773 for the in analytic records. That should display something almost sensible. |
| 17:20 | jcamins | Yes. |
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| 17:24 | jcamins | SJeffery: make sure you use unique ID numbers of some sort (accession numbers are good). |
| 17:24 | reva | Hi all, I just added a new shelving location in my Koha. Is there a two-step process to do that? : select the records to move and move them all in one go to the newly created shelving location? Thanks |
| 17:25 | jcamins | At least per-volume, so you can link the 773 directly. |
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| 17:26 | SJeffery | Yeah, that is the plan. They will link in 773 to the OCLC number so should all be good (part of the reason I am creating the proceedings volume record first). |
| 17:26 | magnus | morning chris |
| 17:27 | drb_food is now known as druthb | |
| 17:27 | chris | 12 days now magnus ? |
| 17:27 | SJeffery | Heh, I left the huge 505 field in title case from the copying and pasting. Rather than spend 30 minutes changing it I think I will call it good enough:D |
| 17:27 | nengard | 13 days here! |
| 17:28 | magnus | lemme see, 7 workdays, 4 weekenddays = 11 days! |
| 17:28 | reva | Anyone, is there a global way to move selected records to the newly created shelving location? |
| 17:29 | owen | reva: Batch modification, under Tools |
| 17:29 | jcamins | SJeffery: if you're familiar with ViM, it's really easy to change case in vi. ~ ;) |
| 17:29 | SJeffery | Sadly, I am not. |
| 17:29 | cait | 12 days :) |
| 17:29 | jcamins | Of course, if you don't know vi, that's not a helpful suggestion. |
| 17:29 | * jcamins | is very jealous of everyone who is going to NZ. |
| 17:30 | * owen | too |
| 17:30 | magnus | cait: you leave on tuesday too? i didn't count today... |
| 17:31 | cait | flying on 19th |
| 17:31 | magnus | cait: yup me too |
| 17:31 | cait | ok, so it is 11 :) |
| 17:31 | chris | means you get here on the 21st eh? |
| 17:31 | cait | panic! |
| 17:31 | magnus | chris: yeah! |
| 17:31 | cait | chris: yes |
| 17:32 | will force magnus to have dinner with me (although he doesn't know yet... ;) ) | |
| 17:32 | chris | hehe |
| 17:32 | your hotel is in auckland city? | |
| 17:32 | magnus | will probably not be very hard to force... |
| 17:32 | cait | magnus: perhaps you will want to sleep |
| 17:32 | reva | Also, is there a way to order the z39.50 targets by the name? (It right now sorts by the addresses entered under Host Name). |
| 17:32 | magnus | cait: who knows? ;-) |
| 17:33 | chris | reva you can order them by rank |
| 17:33 | magnus | chris: i guess we are staying at the hotel jo set up for the starting point of the road trip |
| 17:33 | chris | ah righto |
| 17:33 | cait | I still need to print out maps, timetables and such.. |
| 17:33 | chris | my advice is try not to sleep until its actually sleep time if you can |
| 17:33 | magnus | don't remember the name, better figure that out before we leave... ;-) |
| 17:33 | chris | hehe yes |
| 17:34 | nengard | we got a flight into Wellington - no stop in aukland so we're skipping the road trip |
| 17:34 | magnus | someone said not to sleep the night before leaving too? |
| 17:34 | nengard | what??? |
| 17:34 | I'm sleeping the night before | |
| 17:34 | chris | oh, i dont do that |
| 17:34 | yeah | |
| 17:34 | nengard | and i'm sleeping between the flight to CA and the one to NZ |
| 17:34 | chris | you dont wanna miss your flight cos you fall asleep hehe |
| 17:35 | but trying to get onto nz time as soon as you can | |
| 17:35 | helps | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | magnus: I thought it was the other direction that you're supposed to stay up the night beore? |
| 17:35 | *before | |
| 17:35 | * cait | is getting confused now |
| 17:35 | imp | :D |
| 17:35 | * magnus | me too |
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| 17:35 | cait | thx imp |
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| 17:36 | * cait | pokes imp |
| 17:36 | imp | cait: you'll have nearly 2x 12h to sleep while flying |
| 17:36 | * nengard | says to sleep when you need to sleep :) |
| 17:36 | reva | Ok cait, got it. How about my question for moving a batch of records to a newly created location? |
| 17:36 | * jcamins | agrees with nengard |
| 17:36 | cait | ? |
| 17:36 | magnus | so then it's get up at 0500 on the 19th and try not to sleep until the evening of the 21st... yeah, right ;-) |
| 17:36 | nengard | i'm sitting mr nengard next to sekjal on the plane so that the boys can talk while i sleep :) |
| 17:37 | reva | sorry, i read it as cait, Thanks chris. |
| 17:37 | jcamins | magnus: no, I don't think that's right. |
| 17:37 | magnus | jcamins: no don't sound quite right... ;-) |
| 17:37 | druthb | nengard: as long as you don't snore or do something amusing looking while you sleep, that's a good plan. if you do, they'll be talking *about you* for all those hours.. |
| 17:38 | not to make you paranoid or anything... | |
| 17:38 | chris | what i do, and this works for me, so take it or leave it |
| 17:38 | nengard | druthb they can talk about whatever they want as long as i get to sleep :) hehe |
| 17:38 | chris | is set my watch to destination time as soon as im on the plane |
| 17:38 | cait | druthb: but will you ever see those people again? probably not, so they can talk all tehy want |
| 17:38 | nengard | cait, my hubby and sekjal - i'll see them a lot :) |
| 17:39 | druthb | her husband and teammate? |
| 17:39 | chris | and try to match with that |
| 17:39 | jcamins | I'm looking it up, but isn't 0500 in Europe late afternoon in NZ? |
| 17:39 | nengard | chris that makes sense |
| 17:39 | cait | perhaps there is one advantage of flying alone |
| 17:39 | chris | and i wouldnt do it until i left LA |
| 17:39 | if i was coming from europe | |
| 17:39 | magnus | cait: ,-) |
| 17:39 | nengard | i think i might go sitr crazy if i have to fly 20 hours alone ... |
| 17:40 | magnus | chris: yeah, i think that sounds like good advice |
| 17:40 | cait | 19:48 here now |
| 17:40 | nengard: hmpf! | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | Yes, 0500 in Copenhagen is 1600 in Auckland. |
| 17:40 | cait | don't make me stay here last minute |
| 17:40 | nengard | LOL- cait you'll be fine!!! |
| 17:40 | hdl | good time of day. |
| 17:40 | druthb | wait...nengard, you mean you're not *already* stir-crazy? |
| 17:40 | hdl | see you |
| 17:41 | cait | I will get crazy and magnus will be the first person having to deal with it ;) |
| 17:41 | magnus | oh no |
| 17:41 | chris | hdl: cya later |
| 17:41 | nengard | druthb - this is true - but imagine all my energy stuck on a plane??? |
| 17:41 | druthb | lucky magnus! |
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| 17:41 | druthb | nengard: the same cure as works for small children would do nicely; you're not very big, after all. |
| 17:42 | magnus | i arrive early on the 21st, and cait arrives much later, i think, so i will have some time to find good places in auckland to hide... |
| 17:42 | chris | magnus: if you find out the hotel name, i can tell you if you can take the cheap bus into town to get to it :) |
| 17:43 | nengard | druthb - what's that? i dose myself with dramamine and it knocks me out - but not for that long a flight |
| 17:43 | druthb | Duct tape, nengard. It's the ultimate cure-all. |
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| 17:43 | * cait | pouts |
| 17:44 | druthb | magnus is lucky, cait, because he gets to see you at all. I, unfortunately, do not. |
| 17:44 | jcamins | druthb: heh. |
| 17:44 | magnus | druthb: hee hee |
| 17:44 | nengard | druthb that's just mean!! - for me - not for the kids - go ahead and duck tape the kids!! |
| 17:45 | chris | kids are never the problem on the plane |
| 17:45 | * druthb | chuckles evilly. |
| 17:45 | chris | rude adults are ten times worse |
| 17:45 | magnus | chris: says Mercure here: http://koha-community.org/kohacon2010-roadtrip/ but i wonder if that was changed... |
| 17:45 | chris | arm rest hoggers!!! |
| 17:45 | cait | druthb: kohacon in washington next year? ;) |
| 17:45 | chris | i hate thm |
| 17:46 | nengard | i have like 4 conferences in washington a year |
| 17:46 | cait | magnus: thre was a blog comment from jo |
| 17:46 | druthb | I'd be all over that, cait. local tour guide girl, me! |
| 17:46 | jcamins | I've only been to DC a half dozen times. |
| 17:47 | chris | magnus: http://www.airbus.co.nz/ |
| 17:47 | druthb | nengard: s/conferences in washington/chances to get picked on by druthb/ |
| 17:47 | * magnus | has never been to the US at all... |
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| 17:47 | nengard | magnus you so have to come to a US Kohacon then!!! |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Not counting the two times I sat on a train in DC while they changed engines. |
| 17:47 | nengard | druthb --- tempting |
| 17:47 | jwagner | Come on over! I have a spare bed or two... |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | I don't think any of you are on the plane with us... lucky for you probably ;) |
| 17:47 | chris | magnus: reason 2 is great |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea: you are an arm rest hogger? | |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | lol no, I have a 2 year old ;) |
| 17:48 | nengard | wizzyrea your spud is adorable - that's a kid I don't mind being stuck on a plane with |
| 17:48 | :) | |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | and I'd rather not duct tape him |
| 17:48 | now, dramamine... we might have something there. | |
| 17:48 | ;) | |
| 17:49 | chris | magnus: the airbus will save you about 40$ |
| 17:49 | druthb | oh, sure, she won't use The Force on her child, but she will use drugs. |
| 17:49 | cait | chris: I think it's http://www.presidenthotel.co.nz/index.html |
| 17:49 | chris | ah ha |
| 17:49 | magnus | chris: tripit says "Best Western President Hotel Lodging" |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | Oh, I use the force on him all the time: "your eyes are getting heavy, you are drifting off to dreamland..." repeat x100 |
| 17:50 | chris | cool looking up the timetables now |
| 17:51 | jcamins | wizzyrea: does it work? |
| 17:51 | druthb | hee hee...that's the weak forces of the universe...The Force is duct tape: it has a light side, and a dark side, and it binds the galaxy together. |
| 17:52 | magnus | the force is duct tape and the duct tape is Perl, right? |
| 17:52 | chris | yeah you can do it by bus :) |
| 17:53 | magnus | chris: cool |
| 17:54 | chris | http://tinyurl.com/26fbx96 |
| 17:56 | cait | cool |
| 17:56 | chris | will cost $16nz |
| 17:56 | taxi would be more like $60nz | |
| 17:56 | at least | |
| 17:57 | magnus | chris: wow, thanks, that is so cool! |
| 17:57 | imp | no pickup service from the hotel? |
| 17:57 | chris | some of the 5stars do that |
| 17:57 | however you are definitely paying for it, in you 8 million a night room | |
| 17:58 | imp | :D |
| 17:58 | chris | magnus: i always just ask the driver to tell me when its my stop |
| 17:58 | imp | hm, pickup service was from the rent-a-car-thingy *remembers* |
| 17:59 | chris | and sit up near them, they are pretty friendly |
| 18:00 | magnus | chris: sounds doable |
| 18:00 | chris | more money for sightseeing that way :) |
| 18:01 | or buying caits dinner :-) | |
| 18:02 | magnus | but that's what the expense account is for, you know... |
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| 18:04 | chris | business dinner huh :) |
| 18:04 | hey nate | |
| 18:04 | cait | ;) |
| 18:04 | hi Nate | |
| 18:05 | chris | whats crackalacking ? |
| 18:05 | Nate | hi everyone demonstrating the |
| 18:05 | irc | |
| 18:05 | * chris | has no idea what that actually means, but it sounds good |
| 18:05 | Nate | koha chat at the ILA conference |
| 18:05 | wizzyrea | jcamins: sometimes :) |
| 18:05 | chris | ahh cool |
| 18:05 | sekjal | hello Idaho librarians! |
| 18:05 | chris | hello from new zealand |
| 18:05 | wizzyrea | hi from kansas, idahoans! |
| 18:06 | owen | Hi from Ohio! |
| 18:06 | Nate | everyone says |
| 18:06 | nengard | hi from PA |
| 18:06 | Nate | hi |
| 18:06 | cait | hi from Germany :) |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | hm, today we are somewhat lacking in super vexing issues we are trying to solve :) |
| 18:07 | jcamins | Shall we discuss series tracings? |
| 18:07 | nengard | all too busy thinking about our NZ trips |
| 18:07 | owen | the person who isn't going to NZ noticed :P |
| 18:07 | * wizzyrea | shudders. |
| 18:07 | chris | hehe |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | can we not and say we did? |
| 18:07 | sekjal | working on a new development, but keeping my eyes in #koha |
| 18:07 | jcamins | I thought that would inspire recollection of other issues. ;) |
| 18:07 | chris | jcamins: can i make you think about it, so i dont have to? |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | I'm getting ready to do a clean standard install of koha from the tarball |
| 18:07 | SJeffery | Oh yes, lets discuss series tracings:D |
| 18:07 | chris | yay |
| 18:08 | i did one yesterday that worked smooth | |
| 18:08 | jcamins | chris: I'll do it out loud in #koha though. :P |
| 18:08 | SJeffery | Lets wait until I get home and can consume a certain refreshment though:D |
| 18:08 | LBA | Hi Nate, IRC is awhirl with 3.2 excitement |
| 18:08 | cait | my solution is here: |
| 18:08 | SJeffery | I still don't even understand sreies tracings:D |
| 18:08 | cait | http://github.com/kfischer/Koh[…]ree/bug_4506_xslt |
| 18:08 | chris | oh look caits already fixed it |
| 18:08 | cait | comments welcome ;) |
| 18:09 | jcamins | SJeffery: probably wise. |
| 18:09 | cait | I will have sample records ready by tomorrow |
| 18:09 | brendan | Hi Nate - from California |
| 18:09 | chris | cait: you should put your repo on the list on the koha wiki (unless you have already) |
| 18:10 | cait | no, I haven't |
| 18:10 | but I would have to edit a mediawiki site to do that... | |
| 18:10 | chris | ill do it for you then :) |
| 18:11 | but now i have to go have breakfast before work | |
| 18:11 | bbiab | |
| 18:11 | cait | *sighs* now I feel guilty enough to add it myself |
| 18:12 | magnus | cait: it's fun! |
| 18:13 | cait | I am a dokuwiki person |
| 18:13 | magnus | cool, i'm definitely a mediawiki person ;-) |
| 18:14 | just copy one of the others... | |
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| 18:16 | magnus | cait: well done! |
| 18:16 | cait | hmpf! |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | lol you two crack me up |
| 18:17 | cait | ;) |
| 18:19 | magnus | oh no, wizzyrea is craking up, get the duct tape! |
| 18:19 | cait | lol |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | super glue might work better |
| 18:20 | cait | never ever give me super glue |
| 18:20 | magnus | ? |
| 18:21 | cait | clumsy |
| 18:21 | will glue myself to things | |
| 18:21 | :) | |
| 18:21 | duct tape is much more secure | |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | ...what are you trying to fix exactly!! |
| 18:23 | chris_n | can anyone confirm that the JS on addbiblio.pl is screwed up? |
| 18:23 | in the latest HEAD that is | |
| 18:23 | owen | What are you seeing chris_n? |
| 18:23 | chris_n | cait++ # duct tape :) |
| 18:24 | owen: no tabs, z3950 button does not work, etc | |
| 18:24 | hmm... | |
| 18:24 | catch w/o any try | |
| 18:24 | js error | |
| 18:24 | * owen | isn't seeing any problem |
| 18:24 | owen | What triggers the problem? |
| 18:24 | chris_n | line 1886 |
| 18:25 | just loading the page here | |
| 18:25 | * owen | is sorry he didn't take Spanish now |
| 18:25 | chris_n | heh |
| 18:25 | jcamins | Likewise. |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | ooOOoo |
| 18:28 | popped into the limesurvey channel to thank them for their work (limesurvey is cool, y'all) and they have a NIFTY bot | |
| 18:28 | Check this out: | |
| 18:28 | [1:36p] c_schmitz: | |
| 18:28 | update? | |
| 18:28 | [1:36p] | |
| 18:28 | limebot | |
| 18:28 | : | |
| 18:28 | Instructions for upgrading your installation can be found at http://docs.limesurvey.org/tik[…]+previous+version | |
| 18:28 | it's automatic! | |
| 18:29 | if we had a bot that returned the faq for searching everytime someone typed "have you looked at the search faq?" that would roxxor my soxxors. | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | That would be pretty nice. |
| 18:33 | chris_n | well, it works fine on my dev install, but is busted on the production box |
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| 18:37 | chris_n | ahh... syntax... my patch for bug 4867 adds an extra bracket |
| 18:37 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4867 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, cannot clone subfields in marc editor, other clone/unclone weirdness |
| 18:37 | chris | happily enough, our resident spanish speaker, is the Koha team project manager and she is also an alfresco whiz |
| 18:37 | definitely will respond to that | |
| 18:37 | owen | Wow, meant to be |
| 18:38 | * chris_n | sees that owen caught it and fixed it in the signed-off version which made it into head |
| 18:38 | chris_n | owen++ |
| 18:38 | chris | :) |
| 18:39 | * owen | loves having done good stuff he no longer remembers doing |
| 18:39 | nengard | wizzyrea that is pretty cool! |
| 18:39 | chris | coopetition++ |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | nengard: i just told the limesurvey people about your book |
| 18:39 | :P | |
| 18:40 | chris | and chris_n and owen for demonstarting exactly the way sign offs should work |
| 18:40 | nengard | aww shucks :) thanks |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | I figured they'd be interested to know that their tool had been featured in an actual published work |
| 18:40 | :) | |
| 18:41 | chris | by getting fix and signed off, it makes it into master .. otherwise it gets sent back to be fixed and resubmited, saved a bunch of time/work |
| 18:41 | owen++ | |
| 18:41 | chris_n++ | |
| 18:41 | also wizzyrea and nicole for the patch they did, it didnt need to bother the rm, until it was tested to apply clean | |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 18:45 | chris | bus time, back from the bus shortly |
| 18:46 | oh, and btw alfresco is cool | |
| 18:46 | check it out | |
| 18:46 | * chris | wanders off |
| 18:47 | * owen | had never heard of it before |
| 18:48 | magnus | ooh, enterprise... |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | interesting that they have an enterprise and community version >.> |
| 18:51 | jwagner is now known as jwag_mtg | |
| 18:52 | chris | iirc its all around support levels |
| 18:52 | Like redhat | |
| 18:52 | It does do good records management, and document management | |
| 18:53 | Has lucence in the back | |
| 18:53 | And has a ton of interfaces including cifs | |
| 18:53 | So you can mount a store as a shared drive etc | |
| 18:54 | It also can pretend to be sharepoint | |
| 18:56 | But the bit I like best for my use | |
| 18:57 | chris_n | actually it was a bad tidy patch |
| 18:57 | chris | Is it provides version control for docs in a nice interface and means working on rfp responses etc is a lot easier |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | ^^ that is hand |
| 18:57 | y | |
| 18:57 | * chris_n | must remember that you should not tidy tmpl files |
| 18:58 | chris | And also the search .. I know I answered that in some rfp .. search found it |
| 18:59 | by making that easier for the ba's and pm's means less writing for me :) | |
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| 19:00 | chris | Oh hey |
| 19:00 | cait | chris: ba? |
| 19:00 | chris | Business analyst |
| 19:00 | cait | thx |
| 19:01 | chris | think of them as a translator |
| 19:01 | To help make a spec both devs and client understand | |
| 19:02 | That's what good ones do anyway | |
| 19:02 | Bad ones just make more confusion :) | |
| 19:02 | * LBA | stepping away. Keep up the good work, all! |
| 19:03 | cait | :) |
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| 19:09 | wizzyrea | chris_n, you rewrote the debian install instructions? |
| 19:10 | < is following them to the letter, we need to remember to add sudo apt-get update as one of the steps | |
| 19:11 | at... 1.3 | |
| 19:11 | * wizzyrea | will do it, if you like |
| 19:11 | Drl-Ulm | Hello |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 19:12 | I am totally loving this new package installer thingie. WOWIE. | |
| 19:12 | Drl-Ulm | Really? I need to check that out. |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | mostly for new installs, but it's a lot easier than it used to be. |
| 19:13 | chris_n | wizzyrea: that'd be great |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | (but, granted, it's been a while since I've done a completely cold install on a brand new server) |
| 19:14 | * magnus | wishes everyone a good night or other time of the day of their choice |
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| 19:14 | * wizzyrea | is reminded of the movie ratatouille... "eet ees our job to 'follow zee recipee!'" |
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| 19:18 | wizzyrea | hmm. I am pondering adding "tweet this" to koha-community. Passé? |
| 19:18 | jcamins | nengard is a big fan of Tweet this. |
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| 19:21 | CGI849 | Hola |
| 19:22 | Quisiera hacer una consulta sobre koha 3.0 y Nozebra | |
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| 19:22 | SJeffery | jcamins: OCLC 669060876 :D |
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| 19:23 | CGI849 | Hi, all |
| 19:24 | Some speak spanish? | |
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| 19:27 | jcamins | SJeffery: very nice. |
| 19:27 | What's it look like in Koha? | |
| 19:27 | cait | good night all :) |
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| 19:28 | * jcamins | is jealous that you have OCLC |
| 19:28 | is jealous that you are able to spend the time to create records that nice | |
| 19:29 | chris | back |
| 19:29 | SJeffery | jcamins: No clue, I don't have Koha yet (waiting on our accounting group). |
| 19:29 | That one took me about six hours...have not done MARC cataloging in a year. | |
| 19:29 | I have no idea why the series link doesn't show in Worldcat though | |
| 19:30 | 811 that is | |
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| 19:33 | richard | hi |
| 19:33 | * chris_n | greets richard |
| 19:33 | richard | hiya chris_n |
| 19:34 | chris | hiya richard |
| 19:34 | richard | and chris :) |
| 19:34 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 19:34 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 27.0�C (3:18 PM EDT on October 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:34 | chris_n | wonderful day |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | chris_n: is there some reason we took out the part about *how* you need to edit ParserDetails.ini? |
| 19:35 | * wizzyrea | knows that the right entry goes at the bottom, but not everyone would get that |
| 19:36 | * owen | thunders, Ye who cannot edit ParserDetail.ini shall not enter! |
| 19:36 | * wizzyrea | cowers in fear of owen |
| 19:36 | * chris_n | does not remember removing anything |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | hrm. I swear I added that earlier this year. |
| 19:36 | chris_n | does git blame it on me :) |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | lol, good question |
| 19:37 | chris_n | josh wrote the debian stuff |
| 19:37 | * chris_n | only updated the urls |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | maybe my fix never got in! |
| 19:37 | because I don't see it in there either | |
| 19:37 | chris_n | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b6672834c;hb=HEAD |
| 19:37 | jcamins | I think it was missing all along. |
| 19:38 | * chris_n | does not see liz in the list |
| 19:38 | * sekjal | is coding up a barcode namespaces enhancement, and has met with success for patron barcodes. on to items... |
| 19:38 | chris_n | cool |
| 19:38 | chris | wizzyrea: if you can find it, resend it |
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| 19:38 | * chris_n | hands sekjal an icecream cone |
| 19:38 | jcamins | Oh no! A kitten died?!? |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | never made the trip, as far as I can see |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | I will see if I still have it |
| 19:39 | sekjal | mmmm, ice cream |
| 19:39 | chris_n | seems some kittens die of lack of attention |
| 19:40 | jcamins | Will saying "I believe in kittens" bring them back to life? |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 19:41 | feb 10 2010 | |
| 19:41 | I sent it | |
| 19:41 | * jcamins | pictures zombie kittens roaming about mewing "brains, brains" |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | buuut from that far back, will it apply? |
| 19:42 | if I send it again? | |
| 19:42 | granted that was right before the great list migration | |
| 19:42 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: sec |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | there were about 4 of them |
| 19:43 | that addressed this exact issue, I admit that I never went back and checked that they made it in | |
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| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | hangs her head in shame |
| 19:43 | gmcharlt | still not finding it |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | ok, I will send it again |
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| 19:44 | * chris_n | pats wizzyrea on the shoulder and tells her it's ok |
| 19:44 | chris | it might have gone to patcheskoha.org and not made it .. it did happen |
| 19:44 | not often, but sometimes the spam thing caught them | |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Time to close up. |
| 19:45 | Good night, #koha | |
| 19:45 | chris | cya jcamins |
| 19:46 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | haha, and I added the bit about the apt sources in feb too. |
| 19:46 | * wizzyrea | facepalms. |
| 19:46 | SJeffery | argh, second building evac for a fire alarm this week...why does it only happen when I am on the phone with a vendor? |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | ... depends on the vendor, maybe the universe is telling you something |
| 19:47 | SJeffery | Vendor this time was OCLC, so probably that I am going to burn in hell. |
| 19:47 | jcamins_a | Sounds about right. (and now I'm really going) |
| 19:47 | * chris_n | takes his headache and heads home |
| 19:49 | * gmcharlt | barely resists temptation to add SJeffery's last statement to the quotes database |
| 19:49 | SJeffery | Be nice or I won't contribute code enhancements related to series and analytics to the repository. |
| 19:51 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 19:51 | chris | @quote show 95 |
| 19:51 | munin | chris: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "show" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
| 19:51 | chris | @quote get 95 |
| 19:51 | munin | chris: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 05:36 PM, October 06, 2010) |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | @quote get 95 |
| 19:51 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 05:36 PM, October 06, 2010) |
| 19:51 | chris | i still like that one :) |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 19:52 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009) |
| 19:52 | SJeffery | Worse, I will start asking cataloging questions and having discussions about trivial cataloging topics with jcamins all day long. |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | hehe, i forgot about that one |
| 19:52 | @quote random | |
| 19:52 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #41: "owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)" (added by jwagner at 11:13 AM, October 16, 2009) |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 19:52 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #71: "cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)" (added by chris at 03:47 PM, April 08, 2010) |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 19:53 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 11:28 AM, June 18, 2009) |
| 19:53 | owen | ?? |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | ah, those were the days |
| 19:53 | dunno owen, that was added like, a year ago | |
| 19:54 | @quote random | |
| 19:54 | munin | wizzyrea: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 11:50 AM, July 31, 2009) |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | should I be concerned that the first line after running the Makefile is "unable to locate koha-conf.xml at <path>? Is that informational or an error? |
| 19:56 | (it looks like an error) | |
| 19:56 | chris | interesting, i never got that |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | this is from the tarball |
| 19:57 | not git | |
| 19:57 | chris | and thats running perl Makefile.PL eh |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/EOmvHQelh9m |
| 19:57 | yes sir | |
| 19:57 | chris | ill try again |
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| 20:00 | wizzyrea | fwiw I have been following the instructions to the letter (only deviating when there is something left out, such as apt-get update |
| 20:01 | owen | wizzyrea++ # for following instructions to the letter ;) |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | well, I want to know if new users can do it :P |
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| 20:02 | chris | interesting |
| 20:03 | ah yeah, thats ignorable | |
| 20:03 | i must have just done that | |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | k good |
| 20:03 | ONWARD! | |
| 20:03 | owen | But it indicates a problem with the install process? |
| 20:04 | chris | sort of |
| 20:04 | but not really | |
| 20:04 | C4::Context always looks for a config file | |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | is it looking for a config file it hasn't generated yet? |
| 20:04 | chris | yes |
| 20:04 | owen | Some might take such an error to mean that they should reinstall the operating system |
| 20:05 | chris | but trapping it would mean that when using it later, it will not error when it should |
| 20:05 | its a warn | |
| 20:05 | ends up in apache logs usually | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | hrm. |
| 20:05 | chris | but on your screen in this case |
| 20:06 | warn "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml" | |
| 20:06 | is the precise bit | |
| 20:06 | we could take that warn out | |
| 20:07 | but its actually pretty handy all the time | |
| 20:07 | except the install | |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | Maybe just make an additional text note in Makefile.PL |
| 20:07 | ? | |
| 20:08 | chris | im wondering how long it has been doing it |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | "We can't find it because it's not created yet!" |
| 20:08 | I have never noticed it, but I admit that I haven't been paying *that* close of attention | |
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| 20:09 | wizzyrea | most new users choose standard, because it's the default, correct? |
| 20:09 | chris | yep |
| 20:10 | and because they wont have a git repo | |
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| 20:41 | ebegin | I know that question come back over and over again, but how the tmp_holdqueue table gets populated? |
| 20:41 | gmcharlt | ebegin: misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | ebegin: thanks for asking that question, I had the same one from the other end: I wanted to know where build_holds_queue kept it's data |
| 20:43 | * wizzyrea | formulates an evil plan |
| 20:43 | ebegin | hehe :) |
| 20:44 | chris | :) |
| 20:47 | ebegin | Is there a reason why we are not using the reserves table? performance issue? |
| 20:47 | chris | we do, for actual reserves |
| 20:48 | this is just a report | |
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| 21:50 | SJeffery | Don't you love it when you notice the conversations started with you over the last six hours that you totally did not notice. |
| 21:57 | chris | heh |
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