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| 02:11 | chris_n | g'night #koha peps |
| 02:12 | chris | night chris_n |
| 02:46 | @marc 088 | |
| 02:46 | munin | chris: A report number that is not a Standard Technical Report Number (field 027) (Repeatable) [a,z,6,8] |
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| 04:02 | schuster | brendan here? |
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| 04:07 | Amit | heya chris |
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| 04:57 | sekjal | chris: thanks for the book recommendation. I'm really enjoying it so far, and feeling a little more prepared for the Levin trip |
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| 05:23 | wasabi | i like owen's twitter |
| 05:23 | "If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really #koha." | |
| 05:23 | @quote add < owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha. | |
| 05:23 | munin | wasabi: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 05:25 | wasabi | wha? |
| 05:27 | how do i register? | |
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| 05:32 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:37 | wasabi | @quote add < owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha. |
| 05:37 | munin | wasabi: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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| 05:48 | wasabi | aaah, i got it.... |
| 05:48 | @quote get 96 | |
| 05:48 | munin | wasabi: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 01:56 AM, October 08, 2010) |
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| 06:53 | magnus | g'day #koha |
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| 06:59 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 06:59 | magnus | guten tag, kf |
| 07:00 | kf | hi magnus :) |
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| 07:03 | Amit | heya jai |
| 07:03 | jai | hi |
| 07:04 | kf | hi Amit, hi jai |
| 07:04 | jai | i have doubt in managing suggesion. |
| 07:04 | Amit | heya kf |
| 07:04 | jai | any one help |
| 07:04 | me | |
| 07:05 | hi amit | |
| 07:05 | hi kf | |
| 07:06 | i send purchase suggestion from opac , but that wont seems in intranet staff client | |
| 07:07 | , when i click the button manage suggestion that show the msg like "No pending suggestion" | |
| 07:07 | kf | and you can't see the purchase suggestion in the patron account either? |
| 07:09 | jai | i can see the purchase suggestion in my patron accoutn |
| 07:09 | but cant see at intranet | |
| 07:11 | in intranet i can see "1 pending suggestion " , but when i click the manage suggestion , that wont list the purchase suggestion send by patron | |
| 07:17 | kf | weird |
| 07:17 | which version are u using? | |
| 07:17 | jai | 3.00.006 |
| 07:19 | 3.00.06.010 | |
| 07:21 | kf | I am sorry, I have no test installation for this version |
| 07:21 | so I can't check | |
| 07:23 | jai | how in a module fetch value from database |
| 07:34 | kf | sorry, I don't understand |
| 07:35 | you can check if your suggestion was saved to the database in the table suggestions | |
| 07:52 | jai | yes i checked |
| 07:52 | it was in databases. | |
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| 07:58 | kf | jai: sorry jai - sounds like a bug |
| 08:03 | jai | okey kf |
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| 08:38 | kf | why is there no option to limit search to serials? |
| 08:39 | Or am I only not seeing it? | |
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| 08:56 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 09:02 | magnus | hi ivanc |
| 09:02 | ivanc | hi magnus |
| 09:03 | magnus | kf: can't you limit by any and all item types in advanced search? |
| 09:04 | kf | they use collections in advanced search... |
| 09:04 | and you will only find serials with items | |
| 09:04 | what I miss is a limit from the coded fields, you can limit to filmographies but not to serials? | |
| 09:05 | hi ivanc | |
| 09:05 | ivanc | guten morgen kf |
| 09:08 | kf | magnus: hmpf :) |
| 09:08 | magnus | kf: :-) i never looked much at those options before, so i'm not much help i'm afraid... |
| 09:09 | kf | that's ok - I will write an enhancement request |
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| 10:24 | dritan | does any body know witch is AmazonAssocTag |
| 10:24 | i have created e amazon acount | |
| 10:26 | i see only Access Key ID | |
| 10:26 | and Secret Access Key | |
| 10:27 | but not AmazonAssocTag | |
| 10:27 | help????????????????? | |
| 10:29 | magnus | dritan: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]hp?ch=c19#AEN1126 |
| 10:29 | AmazonAssocTag is if you want to earn money from referrals | |
| 10:29 | you have to sign up for their associate programme, i think | |
| 10:30 | Access Key ID = syspref AWSAccessKeyID | |
| 10:30 | Secret Access Key = syspref AWSPrivateKey | |
| 10:31 | https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ signing up here will give you the associate tag you need for AmazonAssocTag | |
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| 11:21 | magnus | g'day jwagner and nengard |
| 11:22 | nengard | howdy magnus |
| 11:23 | jwagner | Hi magnus |
| 11:23 | magnus | early birds, out to get the worm? ;-) |
| 11:24 | jwagner | Out to beat the DC rush hour traffic :-( |
| 11:24 | * jwagner | notes that just because I'm in the office at this hour does NOT mean I'm awake! |
| 11:26 | magnus | hehe |
| 11:27 | jwagner | You've heard of sleep-driving, right? Similar to sleep-walking? |
| 11:28 | magnus | yeah, sure |
| 11:28 | and it makes me glad i don't have to commute... ;-) | |
| 11:29 | * jwagner | is jealous |
| 11:29 | jwagner | Although I do frequently work from home. It's a nice option to have. |
| 11:30 | magnus | i betcha |
| 11:33 | gmcharlt | jwagner: surely sleep-Metro-riding is safer? |
| 11:33 | jwagner | Not necessarily, given some of the crime problems on metro lately. Also, it would take twice as long to get from home to the office by public transit as it does to drive, even with rush hour traffic. "You can't get there from here." |
| 11:36 | The original DC Metro system (subway, not the busses) was designed to move people from the suburbs to downtown DC. It doesn't seem to have ever crossed anyone's mind that people might like to go from one suburb to another.... | |
| 11:39 | magnus | nah, why would you want that? ;-) |
| 11:40 | jwagner | There are some proposals out for some cross-suburb rail lines now, but they've been studying those for years. Probably won't get built until long after I've retired. |
| 11:41 | gmcharlt | same thing in Chicago |
| 11:41 | jwagner | I've never been to LA, but I hear it's even worse. Guess I can be thankful I don't live there :-) |
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| 11:53 | jwagner | A puzzlement -- a new site has no circ rules set up anywhere, but items are checking out with a three-week duedate anyway. ceilingDueDate syspref is not set. What else could be allowing checkouts like this? |
| 11:54 | paul_p | jwagner, hello. In old versions, there was a default set to 21 iirc. I thought is has been removed, but maybe not |
| 11:54 | jwagner | You mean hardcoded somewhere? |
| 11:54 | paul_p | (default set to 21 => default hardcoded to 21) |
| 11:54 | yep, in C4/Circulation.pm | |
| 11:55 | jwagner | OK, I'll take a look there. Thanks much! |
| 11:58 | Yes, that line is still there in current head. Should it be removed? | |
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| 12:01 | chris_n | jwagner: I think so |
| 12:01 | hardcoded foo is bad | |
| 12:01 | paul_p | jwagner, afaik, we have removed it in our 3.2-4 version (I mean it has been removes by our stuff done on issuing rules management) |
| 12:02 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_3.4#Circulation | |
| 12:03 | jwagner | So I don't need to open a bug report on it -- it's already in process? |
| 12:03 | * chris_n | wonders if the advanced item due notice should really be generating per item notices rather than per patron notices? |
| 12:04 | chris_n | a patron with 10 items receives 10 notices as it stands presently |
| 12:04 | gmcharlt | per patron, I would think - why spam their inboxes? |
| 12:04 | chris_n | seems a bit much |
| 12:04 | paul_p | jwagner, I think so, but it will be only for 3.4 If you think it's needed for 3.2, then file a bug. But everybody lives with this since years, so I don't think it must be fixed urgently |
| 12:04 | * chris_n | will open a bug for it and fix it |
| 12:04 | paul_p | (and it was considered as a feature -a mistake, I agree-) |
| 12:04 | jwagner | I don't think so either, as long as we know it's there. |
| 12:04 | gmcharlt | jwagner: and if nothing else, it means that somebody installing Koha out of the box will be able to test circulation right away |
| 12:05 | jwagner | That was probably the original idea (putting on my time-travel cap to see into the past). |
| 12:05 | As long as we know it's there, it's not a problem. It was just a surprise on a brand new install :-) | |
| 12:05 | * chris_n | wants to borrow that cap sometime :) |
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| 12:05 | * jwagner | will loan it when chris_n finishes that cloning module he's been working on. |
| 12:06 | chris_n | lol |
| 12:06 | gmcharlt | hey - not so fast - chris_n is supposed to finish warp drive for me first! |
| 12:06 | jwagner | And what about teleportation? |
| 12:06 | chris_n | sorry folks, the cookie supply has slowed down and so has my motive to work on those features ;-) |
| 12:07 | * jwagner | makes a mental note to bake cookies |
| 12:07 | gmcharlt | chris_n: humansnack 1 dz cookies? |
| 12:07 | chris_n | hehe |
| 12:07 | magnus | ooh, teleportation would be so cool, especially if it was finnished within the next week |
| 12:10 | jwagner | As someone who loves to travel but hates to fly, I can definitely agree with you, magnus :-) |
| 12:10 | magnus | :-) |
| 12:11 | chris_n | $teleport->(person => 'mangus', destination => 'New Zeland'); |
| 12:11 | * chris_n | wonders if magnus is now in nz-land |
| 12:12 | magnus | um, lemme check |
| 12:13 | no, the view looks pretty familiar... but then i have a feeling nz will look somewhat familiar, so who knows? | |
| 12:13 | jwagner | No, because chris_n sent mangus |
| 12:13 | to New Zeland | |
| 12:13 | * jwagner | puts on spell-checker hat :-) |
| 12:13 | chris_n | HA! |
| 12:13 | talk about a bug | |
| 12:13 | magnus | ah, that explains it, then |
| 12:14 | chris_n | back to the drawing board |
| 12:15 | magnus | @wunder bodo norway |
| 12:15 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 13.0�C (2:00 PM CEST on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:15 | magnus | wunder wellington new zealand |
| 12:15 | wunder wellington, new zealand | |
| 12:18 | gmcharlt | @wunder wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 12:18 | munin | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (1:00 AM NZDT on October 09, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:22 | magnus | quite similar - perhaps chris_n was onto something... |
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| 12:33 | kf | chris_n: I think it has always been like that - that's why we use the digest where you can use <<count>> |
| 12:33 | oh, forgt to scroll down | |
| 12:35 | @wunder Konsatnz | |
| 12:35 | munin | kf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 12:35 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:35 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.1�C (2:44 PM CEST on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:35 | kf | time for my vacation |
| 12:36 | chris_n | vacation++ |
| 12:36 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 12:36 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.7�C (8:41 AM EDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). |
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| 13:09 | votanavor | Searching for a shareware/freeware program and wondering about koha's hardware requirements. We are a small library in a developing country. |
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| 13:14 | gmcharlt | votanavor: how large is your collectin? |
| 13:15 | votanavor | At this point only 11,000 volumes, but we hope to begin adding again. |
| 13:16 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:18 | kf | good morning jcamins :) |
| 13:19 | gmcharlt | votanavor: for that small a collection, Koha's requirements are modest; any PC built in the last 3-4 years would handle it comfortable as long is it can install Debian or the like |
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| 13:24 | votanavor | "Z39.50 client for downloading bibliographic records does not work on Windows" according to a document dated 2005. Is this still true or can I download MARC records? |
| 13:25 | jcamins | votanavor: you should not run Koha on Windows. |
| 13:25 | gmcharlt | votanavor: it works fine in current versions of Koha, but note that Koha for Windows is a pretty ancient version; if you can use Linux as the OS for the Koha installation, that would work better |
| 13:26 | jcamins | It doesn't matter what operating system you run the client under, though, since it runs in a web browser. |
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| 13:31 | mib_4bp7l | Got logged out: how do I get back to the chat about System requirements. Does Z39.50 client for downloading bibliographic records work on Windows? |
| 13:33 | jcamins | mib_4bp7l: you probably should not run Koha under Windows, but if you have a Linux server, you can use the client under any operating system you want (the client just runs in a web browser). |
| 13:34 | wizzyrea wizzyrea wizzyrea (testing whether saying her name three times will summon her) | |
| 13:34 | wizzyrea: do we have a FAQ on system requirements for Koha? I can't find it. | |
| 13:34 | mib_4bp7l | How do I log in again under the same nickname? |
| 13:34 | jcamins | mib_4bp7l: mibbit probably gives you some option to change your nickname. |
| 13:35 | mib_4bp7l | Does it give me an option to log in again (on a different occasion) with the old nickname? |
| 13:35 | jcamins | Just change your nickname to what it was before. |
| 13:36 | IRC nicknames aren't like user accounts. | |
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| 13:39 | reva | Hi anyone, is there a way to have the deleted records not show in the search list in OPAC. Right now, it shows up, and when you click the link, it goes to Error 404 message. |
| 13:40 | votanavor | Thanks jcamins and gmcharlt. Very helpful info. |
| 13:40 | jcamins | reva: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#20 |
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| 13:44 | jcamins | Good morning, sekjal |
| 13:44 | sekjal | morning, jcamins! |
| 13:45 | reva | thanks jcamins, but, what is setting up cron job under kohauser? |
| 13:46 | jcamins, step by step please. | |
| 13:47 | jcamins | reva: cron is a standard utility in Linux. |
| 13:47 | I am sure if you Google it, you will be able to find instructions on how to use it. | |
| 13:48 | reva | ok, will try. Thanks again jcamins.:) |
| 13:50 | jcamins, is it just a matter of time before zebra rebuilds the index (so that I do not have to mess with it; because my search results have been ok so far.) | |
| 13:50 | jcamins | reva: that depends how you have it set up, but probably. |
| 13:51 | sekjal | reva: yes, you should have a line in your crontab to run rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z, and that should happen every 1 to 10 minutes |
| 13:52 | you'll want to adjust that frequency depending on the available resources on your machine. | |
| 13:53 | reva | let me see if shutting and restarting koha does it by itself before doing any of this. Also, is crontab a file I can edit to include the lines you have given? |
| 13:54 | sekjal | reva: to access the cron jobs, I run the command 'crontab -e' as the koha user. that'll open up your editor of choice, and can add/update the jobs as you like |
| 13:55 | reva | ok, sekjal, I will try it and report/ask questions. Thanks. |
| 13:55 | cyrixbmx | why some words do not translate into koha while the translation exists in the file. po? |
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| 14:01 | kf | cyricbmx: do you have an example? |
| 14:01 | there can be a lot of reasons | |
| 14:02 | cyrixbmx | this term is not traduct in the intranet interface. |
| 14:02 | #: /home/chris/git/koha.git/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/circ/circulation-home.tmpl:13 | |
| 14:02 | msgid "Fast Cataloging" | |
| 14:03 | #: /home/chris/git/koha.git/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/circ/circulation-home.tmpl:13 | |
| 14:03 | #, fuzzy | |
| 14:03 | msgid "Fast Cataloging" | |
| 14:03 | msgstr "Catalogage" | |
| 14:03 | in files : fr-CA-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po | |
| 14:03 | ok I find | |
| 14:03 | kf | it's fuzzy |
| 14:04 | cyrixbmx | thanks :) |
| 14:04 | kf | no problem |
| 14:05 | reva | sekjal, is it supposed to open a brand new file? it is not giving me an existing crontab file to edit. (I am sorry for asking basic questions.) |
| 14:05 | magnus is now known as mag_away | |
| 14:06 | jcamins | Ooh! |
| 14:06 | We are missing a Debian package. | |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | yup, I'm working on getting that added now (you are referring to Business::ISBN?" |
| 14:06 | ) | |
| 14:06 | and good morning | |
| 14:06 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 14:06 | perl-doc | |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 14:06 | you add that one then ;) | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | I don't think it's been added yet. |
| 14:07 | (I didn't do a clean install, I just discovered that perl-doc is missing on my previous install) | |
| 14:09 | reva | I see the crontab file. is it to be opened with a text editor? |
| 14:09 | jcamins | reva: http://www.unixgeeks.org/secur[…]/unix/cron-1.html |
| 14:09 | sekjal | thanks, jcamins... sorry, reva, I was afk |
| 14:11 | reva | jcamins thanks, can i open the cron tab with gedit? meaning is it to be opened with a text editor? |
| 14:11 | jcamins | reva: no, you follow sekjal's instructions and run crontab -e |
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| 14:13 | sekjal | reva: do you use vi, vim or nano at all? |
| 14:13 | jwagner | gmcharlt, note my update on Bug 3597 |
| 14:13 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3597 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues |
| 14:14 | jcamins | Is there any way to pull the latest version of a single file only? |
| 14:14 | gmcharlt | noted |
| 14:14 | reva | ok, actually I made a little mistake; I went into root and when I did the crontab -e it put up a new file to edit. I closed the terminal. (I noticed the readme.txt for my Koha Live CD on my desktop is now not proper text file anymore.) |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | i'm looking at the install documentation, does this make sense? |
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| 14:14 | gmcharlt | jcamins: you can browse the files on git.koha-community.org and download the 'blob' of the file you're interested in |
| 14:14 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "apache2 note" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77 |
| 14:14 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ooh, while you're updating them, any chance you could fix the numbering? |
| 14:15 | reva | sekjal, I can use vi. :) |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | specifics, plox |
| 14:15 | :) | |
| 14:15 | (but sure. | |
| 14:15 | ) | |
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| 14:15 | sekjal | reva: cool, you've got one up on me. I prefer nano |
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| 14:15 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: maybe add a link to the Apache vhost documentation? |
| 14:15 | kf | bye all :) |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | I can do that! |
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| 14:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: there's step 5, then 1.1, 1.2, 1.1, and 1.2 again. |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | oh, you mean the zebra stuff |
| 14:16 | jcamins | It should be 5.1(a)-5.2(a) and 5.1(b)-5.2(b) |
| 14:16 | Or something like that. | |
| 14:16 | reva | sekjal, but being able to use vi is one thing, but knowing the syntax and semantics of the cryptic commands to edit into crontab is another. Sigh:( |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | yup I'm just about to embark on that sections |
| 14:16 | section* | |
| 14:16 | sekjal | if you run crontab -e from the command line as the koha user, you'll open up the cron file in vi (most likely), and be able to update it there |
| 14:17 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea: if you're currently working on a patch for apt-get-debian-lenny.sh, any chance you could just add perl-doc to the list? | |
| 14:18 | Barc | export EDITOR=nano then crontab -e will open it in nano |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | I can do that too, sure |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 14:18 | * jcamins | sends wizzyrea some coconut fudge |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | ooh |
| 14:19 | I've also removed the dupes from that script (apt-get-debian-lenny.sh) | |
| 14:19 | they're harmless but unnecessary | |
| 14:19 | jcamins | I wonder, does the package install perl-doc? |
| 14:20 | * jcamins | is looking |
| 14:20 | jcamins | No. |
| 14:20 | Maybe it's installed by perl-modules? | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | well there is a perl-doc package... |
| 14:21 | * wizzyrea | loves debian |
| 14:21 | gives debian a big hug | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Yeah, I know. That's the one that isn't installed by apt-get-debian-lenny.sh. |
| 14:22 | But it's not installed by the package, either, which means that I should probably report a bug. | |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | it wasn't in the list, fwiw |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Does anyone have a clean installation of Debian with Koha installed from the package? |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | I am about to |
| 14:23 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:24 | sekjal | when I get some time, I'm going to try it, too |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Oh, I just remembered why I found out about the missing package. |
| 14:24 | I'm in the middle of importing MARC records. | |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | can I send you these instructions sekjal to try them by fire before I send them in? |
| 14:25 | sekjal | wizzyrea: sure thing... but I can't guarantee how quickly I can get to them |
| 14:25 | hopefully by Tuesday, but... | |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | hmm. Here's what I'll do I think |
| 14:26 | I"ll send the patch with the full modified instructions attached | |
| 14:26 | or something | |
| 14:27 | reva | sekjalsekjal, no luck. I am on a Live CD set up. There is only one user set up in the Ubuntu server which has the Koha set up. when I type the command crontab -e on the command line it creates a new file for me to edit. |
| 14:27 | sekjal | reva: if you haven't added any cron jobs before, the file would be blank. You can add the lines from misc/cronjobs/crontab.example to get started |
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| 14:31 | reva | Ok, will do that. No I shut down the VirtualBox (where my Koha appliance is) and when I search on the OPAC, it does not show the deleted record. :) I did not create any crontab file. So there is a considerable time lag between deleting records and the effect showing up in search results. |
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| 14:34 | reva | Great I did not have to do any of that, sekjal. (And readme text file got corrupted because one of the trainees had saved a Raw MARC record into it by mistake.) relief! |
| 14:37 | sekjal, what I meant was I shut down my Koha/VirtualBox and restarted and it is now ok--i.e., not showing the deleted records. (When I am just editing records it rebuilds the index almost instantaneously though). | |
| 14:39 | sekjal | reva: good! I've been meaning to pull the Live CD, and give it a whirl. Or I may mix my own off a fresh Debian install. I just like the idea of having a Koha appliance I can beat into pieces, then load fresh again |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | is the assumption in the install docs that the logged in user is your koha user? |
| 14:39 | I'm wondering if we need/want to make that explicit. | |
| 14:40 | (would certainly avoid several common issues, if we did) | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the assumption used to be that you were in group wheel, and there was a note that you had to change to kohauser for the zebra stuff. |
| 14:40 | That assumption is gone. | |
| 14:41 | Actually, there's no group wheel under Debian, either. | |
| 14:41 | So, yeah, it should be explicit. | |
| 14:41 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 14:41 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 17.6�C (9:50 AM CDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | never mind. I see what he did here. |
| 15:01 | reva | sekjal, when you build your own with Debian with 3.2, let us know. I was not able to install the 3.2 on the Debian as instructed. So we could use that instead. I had asked the Live CD developer to give instructions for making update to the 3.0.6. |
| 15:02 | sekjal | reva: definitely |
| 15:03 | reva | What he said is at the bottom of this page: http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ |
| 15:04 | ok, can you do that befor I leave the post here (November 18th)?:) (Just kidding; as I know it would take a lot of testing and all from Mizst's comment in his page.) | |
| 15:04 | sekjal | reva: I wish I could crank it out by then, but I'll be at KohaCon for a couple weeks between then and now |
| 15:05 | maybe it can be a plane-project | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | blerg, crontab.example needs some srs help. |
| 15:05 | it's soul is in the right place. | |
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| 15:05 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yeah, I imagine it's pretty out of date; I don't recall any updates to it in a while |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | not so much out of date, just kind of detached from reality |
| 15:06 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]07ba48f8b;hb=HEAD | |
| 15:06 | sekjal | ah, I see |
| 15:07 | * wizzyrea | puts it on the list |
| 15:07 | jcamins | I've got them on the list! They'll none of them be missed, they'll none of them be missed! |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | well, and it implies a dev install |
| 15:07 | reva | yeah, sekjal, that is if they are not showing a movie you have not seen during flight:). Thanks I will cut and past the instructions on crontab for the people here anyway. I am collecting odd and unrelated bits of fixes in a file. |
| 15:08 | * chris_n | shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond |
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| 15:08 | jcamins | reva: I think the staff at the Standards Bureau is going to have so much work to do to maintain Koha that they're not going to have the opportunity to do anything with standards! |
| 15:09 | chris_n: what did they do this time? | |
| 15:09 | chris_n | exist |
| 15:09 | jcamins | It's not Tuesday... |
| 15:09 | cait | ? |
| 15:09 | hi all :) | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 15:09 | chris_n | cait: * chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond |
| 15:11 | jcamins | chris_n: so are you working on your Win32 Koha installation? |
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| 15:12 | * LBA | waves howdy |
| 15:12 | chris_n | jcamins: no, rather trying to fix my samba file server |
| 15:12 | * chris_n | waves back at LBA |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | @quote add chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond |
| 15:12 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #97 added. |
| 15:13 | jcamins | chris_n: another good reason for fist shaking. |
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| 15:13 | chris_n | for some reason it has gone to making root the owner of everybody's files on a general use network share :-P |
| 15:14 | anyhow, back to tearing out hair and such | |
| 15:14 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "crontab section of install.debian" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78 |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | thoughts? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | Looks good. |
| 15:16 | More generally, I'm thinking that my predecessors should be ashamed of themselves, but I'm pretty sure I answered your question the first time. | |
| 15:16 | SJeffery | Friday morning and everything at the office is not working, go figure. |
| 15:17 | reva | jcamins, I will tell that to my counterpart, I can see her chuckling. I have told her to establish contacts with the government IT department people. You know they cannot do less than that if they want to manage their library. In fact, Koha is more user friendly; Evergreen is for institutions with cataloging department and technical processing staff. |
| 15:18 | jcamins | SJeffery: getting a jump on next week, are you? |
| 15:19 | SJeffery | Something like that. Fridays mornings are our most busy time, go figure it is when any outages tend to happen. |
| 15:20 | reva | jcamins, I had demo tested Evergreen, Koha, Open Biblio. Open Biblio is too basic for them to use when they move to the Regional Information Network (CROSQ under CARICOM). |
| 15:21 | SJeffery | Oh, and 669080236 is the analytic for that earlier parent:D |
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| 15:26 | Drl-Ulm | Hello, question for patches news group maintainer ? |
| 15:26 | And or Galen? :) | |
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| 15:27 | chris_n | Drl-Ulm: that would be hdl iirc |
| 15:27 | Nate | Morning Everyone |
| 15:27 | chris_n | heya Nate |
| 15:28 | Drl-Ulm | I submit patches to koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org but they do not go through --- yep, I am and have been a subscriber |
| 15:28 | nengard | anyone who knows about setting up git to send patches probably can help |
| 15:28 | chris_n | yup, that would be hdl |
| 15:28 | Drl-Ulm | chris_n hdl ? |
| 15:28 | rhcl | hi nate |
| 15:29 | Nate | hiya chris_n and rhcl |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Think I could summon hdl by saying his name three times? |
| 15:29 | cait | you can try :) |
| 15:29 | but better try it with 3 cookies | |
| 15:29 | Drl-Ulm | You mean High-density lipoprotein = hdl |
| 15:29 | chris_n | Drl-Ulm: Henri-Damien |
| 15:29 | of Biblibre | |
| 15:30 | they handle the listserver | |
| 15:30 | his nick is hdl | |
| 15:30 | sekjal | morning, Nate |
| 15:30 | jcamins | hdl hdl hdl <-- cookie cookie cookie |
| 15:30 | :) | |
| 15:30 | Drl-Ulm | Ha, I got you. Well what could I be doing wrong? Could a cc: to a different address goof it up? |
| 15:30 | chris_n | you could test by omitting the cc |
| 15:30 | Drl-Ulm | Yes, I can do that |
| 15:31 | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Drl-Ulm: sorry, I tried summoning hdl with no luck. ;) |
| 15:31 | chris_n | but I think that git send-email automatically cc's the sender's address |
| 15:32 | Nate | hey sekjal |
| 15:32 | jcamins | wizzyrea: what I wanted to ask you before was, is there any page with the system requirements for Koha on the website? |
| 15:32 | Drl-Ulm | Yeah it does and my machine is called "koha" (imagine that) so it CCs to kohasmfpl.org |
| 15:32 | Still it worked before (some while ago) | |
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| 15:34 | Drl-Ulm | ok I just created a koha user on the google domain. Perhaps the mail relay bounces it if the CC is no good |
| 15:34 | Although when I git send-email to myself it works fine | |
| 15:36 | briceSanc | hello |
| 15:36 | Drl-Ulm | I am bamboozled! |
| 15:38 | * paul_p | sees hdl is called. |
| 15:38 | tries to make hdl appear :D | |
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| 15:39 | Drl-Ulm | Hello |
| 15:39 | hdl: what am I doing wrong on the git send-email? | |
| 15:39 | paul_p | tada ! /me is a BIG MAGICIAN ! I make ppl appear on the channel :D |
| 15:39 | hdl | i am not on your back. |
| 15:40 | * jcamins | gives hdl the three cookies he was promised |
| 15:40 | hdl | hi jcamins.... |
| 15:40 | thx | |
| 15:40 | what's up ? | |
| 15:40 | briceSanc | i've a barcode problem, i have a book name 'X19713929' (UQAM barcode format). When i scan it, the scanner return the text '01971392x' and the old SIGB can find the book with recalculating 01971392x to X19713929, How can i do the same calculation in Koha ? |
| 15:40 | chris_n | hey hdl, Drl-Ulm seems to have some problems with patches email |
| 15:41 | sekjal | briceSanc: you'll need to write a custom barcode filter |
| 15:41 | hdl | What is it telling you ? |
| 15:41 | Drl-Ulm: ? | |
| 15:42 | briceSanc | sekjal, yes ! |
| 15:42 | in C4/Barcodes ? | |
| 15:42 | sekjal | briceSanc: look at Circulation.pm, around line 118 |
| 15:43 | briceSanc | ok |
| 15:43 | sekjal | function barcodedecode |
| 15:44 | you'll also need to modify the barcode filter system preference to so the new filter's name (whatever you want to call it) is an option in the Sys Pref editor | |
| 15:44 | cait | briceSanc: can't you reprogram your scanner? |
| 15:44 | brice_ | |
| 15:44 | not to deliver the last number | |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | question about that, sekjal: it does it for all barcodes or only ones that match the criteria? |
| 15:45 | probalby could be told to do it either way, I suppose. | |
| 15:45 | sekjal | wizzyrea: once the filter is selected, yes, it can be programmed to do whatever you like |
| 15:45 | the existing filters only change the barcodes that match criteria | |
| 15:45 | cait | briceSanc: we did that for our library, koha has only 7 numbers, the real barcode is eight, the barcode scanner checks the last digit, but does not deliver it |
| 15:46 | jcamins | hdl: did you just manually release Drl-Ulm's patch? |
| 15:46 | hdl | jcamins: I just did NOTHING ;) |
| 15:46 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 15:46 | Drl-Ulm: that did it. | |
| 15:46 | Drl-Ulm | Ok, it is something with registration auth. I just sent 2 to the patch email |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | cool, thanks for the info on that :) |
| 15:47 | cait | your patch reads: From: koha <kohasmfpl.org> |
| 15:47 | perhaps change that? | |
| 15:47 | Drl-Ulm | hdl: I was talking to jcamins |
| 15:48 | hdl: I think he figured it out, the email has 2 headers | |
| 15:48 | nengard | drl-ulm you might want to change the name to yours - but i did get the emails :) |
| 15:48 | Drl-Ulm | cait: So you saw it come across to the actual patch newsgroup? I just sent them so they should go. |
| 15:48 | nengard | you should also attach patches to bugs and change the status to 'patch-sent' on them |
| 15:49 | cait | 2 patches came through |
| 15:49 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: yep been doing that |
| 15:49 | cait | but I think you should change that, becase this way your name will not appear on the list, only koha |
| 15:49 | Barc | Hey - settle a bet!? Difference between Holds Queuel and Pull List? Should there be the same items on both list? |
| 15:49 | cait | I think it's one of those git settings I did at the beginning |
| 15:49 | Drl-Ulm | cait: Ok you saw them. It is this exim4, fun to configure! :) |
| 15:50 | nengard | Barc i've been told that they are the same and that the queue shouldn't used that the pull list is better ... or is more efficient - or something |
| 15:50 | Barc | Yeah, its a little confusing, isn't it! |
| 15:52 | Drl-Ulm | OK, I just sent them again, that *should* fix it w/ my name and all |
| 15:52 | cait | it looks better |
| 15:52 | but the line is still in the patch | |
| 15:53 | Drl-Ulm | cait: what is the line. My name came through but some other line? |
| 15:53 | cait | try that: git config --global user.name "<name>" git config --global user.email "<email>" |
| 15:53 | the first line of your patch message: From: koha <kohasmfpl.org> |
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| 15:55 | nengard | anyone know of a bug report about emails not going to the librarian when a hold is placed? |
| 15:55 | i'm not finding it - but it must have been reported | |
| 15:56 | Drl-Ulm | cait: OK, I just re-sent after the changes you typed. Look any better? :) |
| 15:56 | cait | nengard: I don't remember it |
| 15:56 | nengard | hmmm |
| 15:56 | cait | not sure, the one I see is no different |
| 15:56 | nengard | k - i'm going to report it and if someone finds the original feel free to mark mine a dup |
| 15:56 | Drl-Ulm | Drat |
| 15:56 | nengard | drl-ulm it's different for me |
| 15:56 | i see your name | |
| 15:57 | cait | nengard: in the patch? |
| 15:57 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: right, but I think cait is saying that another line is in there somewhere |
| 15:57 | cait | ah |
| 15:57 | nengard | on - no - just on the from line ... got it |
| 15:57 | cait | I think you must make a new patch |
| 15:57 | file | |
| 15:57 | to make it change | |
| 15:58 | Drl-Ulm | cait: ok |
| 15:58 | cait: sec | |
| 15:58 | cait | you can check the git settings with: git config --list and |
| 15:58 | git config --global --list | |
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| 15:59 | Drl-Ulm | cait: yep, looks ok |
| 16:00 | nengard | Bug 5297 reported |
| 16:00 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5297 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing |
| 16:02 | Drl-Ulm | cait: OK, Just reconfabulated them and re-sent |
| 16:02 | cait: wait, I see the line, still not correct. | |
| 16:02 | cait | it did not change dit you do git format-patch again? |
| 16:02 | I am sorry, I have to leave now | |
| 16:02 | cooking course :) | |
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| 16:03 | reva | Hi again, I have another question. In the OPAC, there is no seperator between the Current Location and Shelving Location, so that they are running together in the same column. Very confusing display if you have a long library name, especially. |
| 16:03 | Drl-Ulm | cait: well the next ones that come through will be OK |
| 16:03 | thanks! | |
| 16:05 | cait | no problem |
| 16:05 | bye all | |
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| 16:16 | jwagner | reva, I wrote a patch to set off shelving location -- see Bug 3789 |
| 16:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3789 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, Set off Shelving Location in staff and OPAC title display |
| 16:17 | Drl-Ulm | The new patches are fixed. Well, better to do it right. |
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| 16:27 | reva | hi jwagner, and munin, thanks: I will get it. |
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| 16:38 | reva | also, is the item record getting the "date last seen" from 005 field? Because, I just corrected a bib record 005 to today's date (just to give us a cut-off date for our records to be exported) but the item record is still showing the older date as Date last seen. Or is it the indexing lagging behind? |
| 16:38 | jcamins | reva: date last seen has nothing to do with the bib record. |
| 16:39 | I believe it is the last time you changed the status of the item. | |
| 16:39 | It is the date the *physical item* was last seen. | |
| 16:39 | It's useful for inventorying and shelfreading, and that sort of thing. | |
| 16:40 | reva | ok then jcamins. (I recall you saying Koha does not use the control fields at all.) So where do I change the "date last seen"? I do not see anyway I can change it in edit. |
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| 16:40 | jcamins | reva: check it out. |
| 16:40 | Or check it in. | |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | nengard: about? |
| 16:42 | nengard | yuh huh |
| 16:43 | reva | ok, i will try that. This ruse is so that we know which bib records and item records to export to our hard drive install of the Live CD. (I still have not given up on the 3.2/Debian install. In the meantime we are inputting records into our Live CD VirtualBox install of 3.0.6 so that we can take it with us |
| 16:46 | nengard | wizzyrea? |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | oh s oryr |
| 16:46 | sorry | |
| 16:46 | nengard | :) |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | can I send you a patch for 1. proofread and 2. sign off :) |
| 16:46 | pleeeeez | |
| 16:47 | nengard | yes |
| 16:47 | :) | |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | (it's docs stuff) |
| 16:47 | INSTALL.lenny, to be precise | |
| 16:47 | k sent | |
| 16:47 | nengard | i won't know if it's accurate - but i can proofread .... |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | ty ty |
| 16:48 | I really just want another set of eyes on it before I send it out widely | |
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| 17:04 | reva | hi is there a patch for the 780 and 785 field showing? (The serial continues and continued by; I see a bug report for it; but no attachment.) |
| 17:05 | yhager | I am working on installing koha on archlinux. I have to create a lot of packages for the perl modules. Is this something that you think would be valuable to donate back? |
| 17:05 | jcamins | yhager: I would think so, yes. |
| 17:06 | I don't use Arch, so I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that any porting you do is porting that someone else doesn't have to do. | |
| 17:07 | yhager | jcamins: cool. I will create the perl packages, then create a koha-dependencies package that depends on all those. |
| 17:07 | It is a real pain to install each package manually, so I hope someone else will benefit :) | |
| 17:08 | reva | also, do I just download save and run the attachment fi they are present on the bugpages.? |
| 17:10 | jcamins | reva: those are patches. You will need to learn how to use patches. |
| 17:12 | I would suggest looking online for documentation on patches and diffs. | |
| 17:13 | reva | jcamins, yes; but I was wanting to know whether they are the final versions of the patches if they are attached to the page. Ok, I kind of know the diff function from my Unix life. |
| 17:13 | yhager | We just finished a short pilot for our library with the latest stable 3.0. Today I am installing the real server - I guess it is safe to go with 3.2 now, right? |
| 17:14 | jcamins | yhager: yes, I'd say so. A lot of people have been using 3.2 in production for a while. |
| 17:14 | reva | Cait oncegave me here a link to a patch for showing place of publication in OPAC. I am not able to find it by searching. And the serials Continues and Continued by , is there a patch for showing them? |
| 17:17 | yhager | jcamins: I thought so. Thanks for reassuring! |
| 17:18 | jcamins | We've had 3.2 since... ummm... whenever we started using Koha. |
| 17:18 | June? | |
| 17:18 | Anyway, it works well. | |
| 17:18 | yhager: also, if you wanted to write up instructions for installing Koha on Arch, that would be great. | |
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| 17:22 | briceSanc | sekjal, cait, I'm sorry, I had an impromptu meeting |
| 17:23 | reva | jcamins, I have found the link: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5187. But the patch attachment is not a file I can save and run diff (and do whatever else). It looks like an html page with the source code in it. |
| 17:23 | sekjal | no worries, briceSanc. those happen |
| 17:23 | munin | 04Bug 5187: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Show place of publication (260$a) in OPAC/Staff |
| 17:25 | reva | munin, see my comment about no attachment I can download/save and do whatever. |
| 17:25 | munin | reva: Error: "see" is not a valid command. |
| 17:25 | reva | munin?? Please see. |
| 17:25 | munin | reva: Error: "Please" is not a valid command. |
| 17:26 | reva | ??? I am not getting your lines munin:() |
| 17:26 | jcamins | reva: munin is a bot. |
| 17:26 | Not a person. | |
| 17:26 | reva | seriously, jcamins? |
| 17:26 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:27 | @wunder 11105 | |
| 17:27 | munin | jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 22.4�C (1:35 PM EDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:27 | sekjal | @define munin |
| 17:27 | munin | sekjal: Error: "define" is not a valid command. |
| 17:27 | sekjal | @whatis munin |
| 17:27 | munin | sekjal: "munin" could be (#1) purveyor of all wisdom, or (#2) your chatbot pal who's fun to be with |
| 17:27 | chris_n | @dict munin |
| 17:27 | munin | chris_n: No definition for "munin" could be found. |
| 17:27 | reva | jcamins, do I feel stupider and stupider in this forum:) But I am stubborn. |
| 17:27 | chris_n | hudsonbot: botsnack popcorn |
| 17:27 | hudsonbot | chris_n: yummy! I really like that popcorn |
| 17:27 | jcamins | reva: there's a proposed patch attached. |
| 17:29 | reva | jcamins. you mean In the link I just sent you? When I try to save from the link it opens a web page showing the code. who else is a robot in this irc? owen? |
| 17:29 | jcamins | No, owen's a real person. |
| 17:29 | Just munin, hudsonbot, logbot, and I think that's it. | |
| 17:29 | sekjal | pastebot |
| 17:30 | jcamins | Oh yeah. |
| 17:30 | reva | that is good to know that abt owen. I can feel the tetchiness in his responses and that should have told me that he is a real person. |
| 17:30 | * gmcharlt | giggles - but surely owen is just a patch-writing machine |
| 17:31 | gmcharlt | ;) |
| 17:31 | jcamins | Oh, well, by that definition, gmcharlt is a patch-applying machine. ;) |
| 17:32 | reva | jcamins did you actually click on the attachment? |
| 17:32 | chris_n | owenbot.... ;-) |
| 17:32 | jcamins | reva: yes I did. |
| 17:32 | It is a patch for an XSLT stylesheet. | |
| 17:32 | So the reason it looks like HTML is that it's XML. | |
| 17:33 | chris_n | $self->morph_to_bot(/me)... maybe? |
| 17:33 | reva | jcamins, so what do i do with it? |
| 17:33 | jcamins | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 |
| 17:34 | reva | boy jcamins, have I got my reading cut out for me for the weekend!!:) |
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| 17:36 | jcamins | reva: I would encourage you to read this as well: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html |
| 17:37 | reva | jcamins, what I meant was when I got the link to the patch for the Location display enhancement just now, it was a file I could save. This one for the Show Place of Publication was not like that. |
| 17:38 | jcamins | reva: see where it says "proposed patch"? |
| 17:38 | reva | jcamins, you gave me that one yesterday, and I went home and have made a determined start on it (the adverb is directly from Amis' Lucky Jim novel.) |
| 17:38 | ok, I see it. | |
| 17:39 | jcamins | That is the patch. |
| 17:39 | reva | ok, I am kind of getting it. |
| 17:41 | jcamins, I meant you gave me the link to linux intro. But today's is a new one. Thanks. | |
| 17:41 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 17:46 | Drl-Ulm: I think you sent the wrong patch just now. | |
| 17:51 | Drl-Ulm | I sure did |
| 17:51 | ! | |
| 17:51 | :) | |
| 17:51 | Either I did a password change code a while ago or someone else did. If that is the case at least one of my patches in the past was used - which is nice to know. | |
| 17:52 | I've been out of the loop for awhile, we got a > $100,000 grant and everything has been setting all that stuff up | |
| 17:52 | Well glad it is in there regardless | |
| 17:54 | I was confused on this because we are running an *early* version of 3.0 with lots of patches in it, and I am trying to clear them out. I wonder if they are the same code: Yeah same code. I think I forgot I submitted it. 50 computers setup with Win 7 and news servers later and I am out of the loop | |
| 17:55 | Let's laugh about it and move on, shall we.... heh | |
| 17:57 | Wait, no...I never submitted that one. I have one to add an email account or change an email account. Sheesh. I *have* been out of the loop. What was I thinking. | |
| 17:58 | This is what happens when you have to setup Windows stuff for 6 months. Errr | |
| 17:58 | Sorry everyone! | |
| 17:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you have a merge conflict. |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | ugh I can not do this right |
| 17:59 | * wizzyrea | sulks away and kicks git. |
| 17:59 | nengard | :( |
| 17:59 | anything we can help with? | |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | can you make me stop sending stupid patches to the list? because that's really what I want. |
| 18:00 | * jcamins | offers wizzyrea a cookie |
| 18:03 | * jwagner | offers wizzyrea a stiff drink |
| 18:03 | * jcamins | could use one of those too |
| 18:03 | Drl-Ulm | I need sleep, running on 3 hours. |
| 18:03 | I have a change which would allow a patron to add or change their EMAIL. I have no idea why I commited the other code. Tired! | |
| 18:04 | Also the question is would anyone even want that? :) | |
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| 18:14 | wizzyrea | I think that would be good, except that for the most part koha requres librarian intervention to change essential contact information |
| 18:14 | (do we classify "email" as essential contact information?) | |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Question: once 3.2 is released, HEAD will become the development branch for 3.4. So there will be a separate branch for 3.2, right? |
| 18:14 | If my understanding is correct, do we know what that branch will be called? | |
| 18:15 | Drl-Ulm | wizzyrea: do we? I mean this could be another...gulp...global pref. |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea: Or I can lump it in with the OpacPasswordChange preference | |
| 18:16 | reva | jcamins, since we are not a circulating library, i have not assigned any barcode to my item records (neither system generated nor "manually created">) Do I have to do that before I can checkouook? Or is there a way to bypass giving items barcodes? |
| 18:17 | jcamins | reva: why do you need to check out a book then? |
| 18:19 | I have no idea what the answer to your question is, but I don't see why you'd need to check out a book if you're non-circulating. | |
| 18:20 | I guess statistics? | |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | jcamins: 3.2.x |
| 18:20 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks. |
| 18:20 | reva | oh, because I wanted to change the date last seen in the item record. (we have assigned a cut-off date for exporting our good records, so I need the corresponding item records to show that date or later.) |
| 18:20 | jcamins | reva: I see. I have no idea. |
| 18:22 | I would speculate that you might be better off setting the accession date rather than the "date last seen," though. | |
| 18:22 | reva | ok, I suppose, I can set the export to include item records and see what happens. When I was staging and importing bib records into the database, it gave me that choice. I will have to experiment with that. |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | well I do think that falls in the "librarians should decide what is essential information" discussion |
| 18:23 | sorry, I was distracted | |
| 18:23 | I just realized I had accidentally ignored jcamins... and I am sorry :( | |
| 18:23 | reva | ok, I will reset the acquired (is that the accession you mean) date. But see I will be setting it today's date (say) but the Last seen will show 10/01/2010 which is when the item record was created. |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | I like him and his cookies |
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| 18:26 | drulm | Oh, we have a release candidate!? Wow I just saw this! Awesome! |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 18:32 | jcamins | The git web page has sections on "Remotey commands," "Branch commands," and "Patchy commands." |
| 18:32 | That amuses me. | |
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| 19:01 | chris_n | is it friday or what? |
| 19:05 | drulm | Yes it is. |
| 19:05 | TGIF = Thank Galen It's Friday | |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | haha! |
| 19:06 | @quote add drulm: TGIF=Thank Galen It's Friday | |
| 19:06 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #98 added. |
| 19:06 | drulm | Well that all depends as to how everyone around here refers to Galen, but he is the R.M. |
| 19:07 | jcamins | gmcharlt: Thank you! |
| 19:07 | If I need to recommend a basic book on HTML, what book should it be? | |
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| 19:07 | * gmcharlt | blushes, and disclaims any responsibility for make the earth rotate |
| 19:07 | * wizzyrea | can imagine worse dieties |
| 19:07 | can imagine few better ones. | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | (to clarify, this is "HTML so you can deal with customizing Koha" not "HTML for writing general-purpose web pages") |
| 19:08 | gmcharlt | jcamins: owen's blog, actually - not a book, I know |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Ah, good call, thanks! |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | owen should write a book from his blog |
| 19:11 | he really should | |
| 19:11 | jcamins | I agree! |
| 19:11 | chris | yeah |
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| 19:12 | wizzyrea | @later tell owen you should write a book about Koha from your blog |
| 19:12 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:12 | nengard | did he post something new? |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | no, but think about all the posts he's written |
| 19:12 | and how helpful each and every one is | |
| 19:13 | chris_n | "Choice Selections from Owen's Koha Blog" |
| 19:13 | nengard | oh i agree with you all - jsut wondering if there was something new and awesome i missed |
| 19:14 | chris | :) |
| 19:14 | jcamins | I'm writing a "required reading" list for someone who wants to get up to speed on Koha fast. |
| 19:14 | And I asked what to suggest for "HTML as it applies to Koha." | |
| 19:14 | nengard | got it |
| 19:15 | drulm | nengard: I fell over from lack of sleep and my face hit the keyboard - but luckily nobody saw it |
| 19:16 | nengard | but now everyone knows about it |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | back in a few |
| 19:16 | (gotta get the kiddo) | |
| 19:16 | drulm | nengard: Oh darn! You are right! Drat! |
| 19:20 | chris_n | thd is the master of completeness |
| 19:20 | chris | he is |
| 19:22 | jcamins | I'll say. |
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| 19:36 | drulm | Zap. There is another patch you can all mock! Thank you, thank you very much. |
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| 19:38 | reva | Hi, I just wanted to mention that setting the OPACBaseURL as suggested here a few days ago (to http://localhost/, which is our OPAC address) did not create a link in my staff client for me. Why? |
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| 19:46 | jcamins | If anyone wants a sense of how much they know, I have a reading list for "what you need to know to work with Koha." |
| 19:49 | chris | oh yeah? |
| 19:49 | you should do a blog post :) | |
| 19:49 | jcamins | It's a good idea. |
| 19:49 | Of course, it might scare people away from Koha. | |
| 19:49 | reva | yo'all have a good weekend Bye jcamins:) |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Maybe if I do one post on each technology. |
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| 19:50 | jcamins | Something like "learning to deal with git so you can work with Koha," "learning to deal with Perl so you can work with Koha..." |
| 19:50 | That might be kind of useful. | |
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| 19:51 | chris | yeah good idea |
| 19:51 | jcamins | It would save me pasting the same half dozen links into this channel over and over. |
| 19:51 | chris | :) |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea_ | lol, we need a bot like limesurvey has that when someone says |
| 19:51 | update instructions | |
| 19:52 | it comes back with the link | |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Yeah, I really like that idea. |
| 19:52 | Actually, that's partly where the idea of writing out the reading list came from. | |
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| 19:53 | jcamins | That and realizing that most people probably have no idea what I'm talking about when I say "you need to frozzle your XSLT stylesheet to foo your MARC." ;) |
| 19:58 | Hey, what's the oldest version of Firefox that is believed to work with Koha? | |
| 19:59 | chris | 2 words |
| 20:00 | works even | |
| 20:00 | for the opac at least | |
| 20:00 | not sure about staff side | |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Okay. Thanks. |
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| 20:14 | sekjal | have a good weekend, all! |
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| 20:23 | jcamins | Okay, it's weekend-y. |
| 20:23 | Have a good weekend, #koha | |
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| 21:30 | jwagner | Grump. Stupid jquery can't read my mind.... |
| 21:32 | nyu | quit |
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| 22:20 | chris_n | ptfs needs to get a real life |
| 22:24 | moodaepo | chris_n: Now what? |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea_ | it'd probably be better to leave this one for now |
| 22:25 | moodaepo | ptfs-- <!++ |
| 22:25 | * moodaepo | just for good measure |
| 22:25 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 22:25 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 30.9�C (5:34 PM CDT on October 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:26 | * moodaepo | goes out |
| 22:26 | chris_n | wizzyrea_: I think it may be too late... sadly |
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| 22:31 | cait | hi #koha |
| 22:31 | chris_n | heya cait |
| 22:31 | cait | hi chris_n |
| 22:31 | :) | |
| 22:35 | chris_n | ptfs-- |
| 22:35 | bbl | |
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| 22:54 | cait | did I miss something? |
| 22:57 | found it | |
| 22:58 | I think it's a good idea to go to bed now | |
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| 23:45 | chris | @wunder wellington,nz |
| 23:45 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on October 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:45 | jcamins_a | Is it fair to say "any reasonably high-end computer from the last five years could run Koha"? |
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| 23:51 | jwagner | jcamins, it probably depends on the size of the collection. druthb got Koha running on a netbook -- slow and small, but it worked. |
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| 23:57 | jcamins | jwagner: thanks! That's what I thought. |
| 23:58 | jwagner | But the more memory and processors you can throw at it, the happier you'll be. (You the person trying to install, of course) |
| 23:58 | And good high-end PCs aren't that expensive any more. | |
| 23:58 | jcamins | Right. |
| 23:59 | I'm writing a blog post with reading suggestions for learning enough to handle Koha. | |
| 23:59 | Right now I'm working on the Debian GNU/Linux part. |
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