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| 00:25 | * chris_n1 | wanders by |
| 00:25 | chris | hiya chris_n1 |
| 00:54 | chris_n1 | cool... html labels appear to conquer the utf8 issues with label printing |
| 00:55 | * chris_n1 | exports labels in Chinese without problems now |
| 00:55 | chris_n1 | excepting the fact that I cannot read them ;-) |
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| 01:16 | chris | thats cool about the utf8 |
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| 02:43 | brendan_l | @wunder 93117 |
| 02:43 | munin | brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.9�C (7:49 PM PDT on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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| 04:12 | wajasu | would be nice to have the utf8 label thing solved. my librarian edits records to not have diacritics and prints a lebel then edits things back. slow and errorprone workaround. |
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| 04:34 | mib_zt590 | hello |
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| 05:04 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 05:04 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0�C (7:00 AM CEST on October 05, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:05 | cait | @wunder Heidelberg germany |
| 05:05 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 14.6�C (7:00 AM CEST on October 05, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Rising). |
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| 05:35 | LUMHS | I want to open ports which supported the z39.50, could any one help me in this regard? |
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| 07:10 | good | hello chris |
| 07:11 | hello richard | |
| 07:11 | hello all | |
| 07:11 | i m new to koha | |
| 07:11 | can any1 help me | |
| 07:14 | hdl | good: what's up? |
| 07:14 | good | i need help |
| 07:14 | i m new to koha | |
| 07:15 | can u help me hdl | |
| 07:15 | hdl | I could if you have read the install documentation and asked questions. |
| 07:16 | http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | |
| 07:16 | good | ya i have tried to install bt getting sum errors |
| 07:18 | r u there hdl | |
| 07:19 | hdl | yes I think you can force installation |
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| 07:19 | good | i m getting errors at localhost |
| 07:20 | “localhost” refused the connection.Likely causes of the problem are * some service isn't started, or * you got the port number wrong. | |
| 07:21 | hdl | have you read documentation and installed apache vhosts ? |
| 07:21 | good | no not installed that |
| 07:22 | hdl | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 07:22 | step 3 | |
| 07:23 | good | bt i m installing koha-3.00.06 on debian-lenny |
| 07:23 | do u have any idea | |
| 07:23 | hdl | step 3 is the same on debian lenny |
| 07:24 | good | k |
| 07:24 | r u sure problem wil be solved | |
| 07:26 | thnx | |
| 07:26 | bye | |
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| 07:27 | chris | i hate that cgi irc thing |
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| 08:15 | magnus | here's something i never quite understood: why does install.debian recommend doing "git checkout -b myinstall origin"? |
| 08:15 | whu create my own branch to install from, and not install from master? | |
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| 08:33 | chris | it is master |
| 08:33 | everything is a local branch in git | |
| 08:34 | you can call it whatever you want | |
| 08:34 | it just depends on what you merge into it, or rebase it on | |
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| 09:00 | reed | chris, you there? Jan has a question about Māori surnames |
| 09:00 | chris | yep |
| 09:01 | reed | name is-- |
| 09:02 | Sir Archie John Te Atawhai Taiaroa | |
| 09:02 | which bit is the surname? | |
| 09:02 | chris | Taiaroa |
| 09:02 | reed | ! |
| 09:02 | was her guess | |
| 09:02 | jan sez thanks | |
| 09:02 | chris | np |
| 09:02 | reed | she's doing some library index thing |
| 09:04 | chris | ahh right |
| 09:05 | reed | she's getting trained to do new things |
| 09:05 | article indexing right now | |
| 09:06 | we've been talking about doing language classes; would help for stuff like that | |
| 09:07 | chris | yup :) |
| 09:21 | magnus | chris: sorry for being slow... i get that i can call the branch what i like, i don't get why i have to create a new branch to install from. why not just install from master, when that is what i want? |
| 09:23 | chris | it is master, just called something else |
| 09:23 | magnus | um, so why call it something else? |
| 09:24 | chris | because by doing the install it changes some files |
| 09:25 | when you do a git clone | |
| 09:26 | magnus | a ha! ;-) |
| 09:27 | so later on i want to update the install and do a "git pull", but then git complains because of the changed files in the myinstall branch | |
| 09:27 | chris | yup |
| 09:28 | magnus | and to update i should check out master, pull, check out a new branch and install/update from that? |
| 09:28 | chris | well you can do a commit to commit local changes then merge from upstream master |
| 09:29 | i like to have master be exactly the same as upstream master | |
| 09:29 | not have local changes in it | |
| 09:29 | magnus | yeah, sounds reasonable |
| 09:31 | btw: can you see the lightbulb above my head? thanks for taking the time to explain that to me, chris! | |
| 09:32 | chris | no problem |
| 09:35 | wasabi | Q, whats the fedora equiv. of the 'daemon' .deb package? |
| 09:35 | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/daemon ? | |
| 09:35 | anyone? | |
| 09:37 | well, here's a start... -> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ | |
| 09:41 | answer -> http://www.mail-archive.com/ko[…]org/msg00389.html | |
| 09:42 | daemon package not yet in fedora-core :/ | |
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| 09:43 | wasabi | ... and the rpm fail-dance begins |
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| 11:19 | hdl | wasabi: I installed daemon from source. |
| 11:20 | http://libslack.org/daemon/ | |
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| 11:25 | druthb | Hello, #koha |
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| 11:45 | magnus | hiya druthb |
| 11:45 | ...and jwagner | |
| 11:47 | jwagner | Hi magnus |
| 11:47 | druthb | hi, magnus! |
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| 12:01 | wasabi | hdl: thanx, i installed successfully from source too |
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| 12:30 | magnus | oh please, PDF::API2::Simple... |
| 12:32 | owen | PDF::API2::Simple is a vengeful god which doesn't respond to prayer |
| 12:33 | * magnus | was afraid of that |
| 12:34 | magnus | but you are plotting to replace it with good ol' html? |
| 12:34 | owen | Sounds like chris_n is |
| 12:35 | magnus | ah, i'm probably getting names mixed up... |
| 12:36 | ...again | |
| 12:37 | chris_n | magnus: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]s_n.git;a=summary |
| 12:37 | beware the pdf export is somewhat broken in that branch, however | |
| 12:38 | magnus | chris_n |
| 12:38 | chris_n++ | |
| 12:38 | d'oh | |
| 12:38 | i installed Module::Install, but still get "'/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site' returned status 512, won't make", even when doing force install - any and all hints, tricks and tips | |
| 12:38 | ...are very welcome | |
| 12:39 | chris_n | magnus: I usually cd into the source directory under .cpan and build it myself with sudo |
| 12:41 | magnus | woohoo, that seems to have done the trick - actually i followed these steps: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/023254.html |
| 12:57 | wasabi | chris_n: well done on the utf-labels |
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| 13:06 | wasabi | chris_n: whats the perl-module that does the utf heavy-lifting? |
| 13:06 | chris_n | wasabi: yeah, there's a bunch of cleanup to do on the code, but I was producing chinese labels last evening |
| 13:07 | actually, the capability is already in koha since we display multi lingual chars in the browser | |
| 13:07 | wasabi | fyi: a feat i thought was rather impossible! |
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| 13:07 | wasabi | aaaaah... |
| 13:08 | well, the capability is in the web-browser... | |
| 13:08 | chris_n | so I just worked over the pdf code to spit out css parameters |
| 13:09 | married that to a template | |
| 13:09 | and away we go | |
| 13:09 | wasabi | aah, that was my 1st attempt :) |
| 13:09 | it failed pretty badly, for me | |
| 13:11 | but the only real work-around for utf->pdf conversion | |
| 13:13 | well done, and thanks for your perseverance too! | |
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| 13:21 | wasabi | man, yum is just so slow :/ |
| 13:22 | owen | yum? |
| 13:23 | wasabi | apt-get/dpkg for redhat/centos |
| 13:39 | * chris_n | thinks of cookies or some sort when he hears 'yum' |
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| 13:41 | tance | hello |
| 13:41 | owen | Hi tance |
| 13:42 | tance | i uusing koha version 3.06 and i want to create depend branchs |
| 13:43 | i have dependBranch on and every user can modify the catalog o the other library | |
| 13:43 | how can fix this | |
| 13:44 | owen | tance do you mean IndependentBranches? |
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| 13:47 | tance | yes IndependentBranches |
| 13:48 | owen | I don't have any experience with IndependentBranches, but I wonder if your users have the right permissions? |
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| 14:11 | tance | does anybody know about my broblem with IndependentBranches on ? |
| 14:12 | owen | tance: Did you check your user permissions? |
| 14:12 | I wonder if having superlibrarian users would cause your problem | |
| 14:14 | tance | yes in the user permision i add the cataloging permision adding modifiing but the user can modify and the record of the other libraries that he is not member |
| 14:14 | becouse im builting a federating koha | |
| 14:15 | owen | tance: But not the superlibrarian permission? |
| 14:15 | tance | not superlibrarian permision |
| 14:15 | i am the superlibrarian | |
| 14:16 | owen | Sorry, meeting |
| 14:16 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | magnus: thanks for asking those questions about git, answered some of my own. :) |
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| 14:34 | tance | does anybody know about my broblem with IndependentBranches on ? |
| 14:35 | other librarian edit the record of the other libraries | |
| 14:35 | i`ve checked the user permisions | |
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| 14:54 | owen | tance: Are you talking about bibliographic records or item records? |
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| 15:03 | tance | bibliographic records and item records |
| 15:04 | both | |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | chris_n: |
| 15:04 | about? | |
| 15:04 | owen | bibliographic records are not, as far as I know associated with a particular library |
| 15:04 | chris_n | wizzyrea: here |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | woot |
| 15:04 | I had a suggestion for the label creator | |
| 15:04 | (from my librarians) | |
| 15:04 | owen | tance: In my test installation of 3.0.6, I am correctly prevented from editing items which don't belong to my branch |
| 15:04 | * chris_n | s all ears |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | In the search for items bit, they would like to be able to limit the results by branch |
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| 15:05 | * chris_n | runs and hides at the mention of search code 8-P |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 15:06 | sorry >.< | |
| 15:06 | chris_n | that's a great idea, though |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | we have 33 libraries, it gets quite cumbersome sometimes |
| 15:07 | chris_n | file an enhancement request and I'll take a look at it |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | I will do that |
| 15:07 | tance | but how to limit the search |
| 15:07 | chris_n | if it is not toooo difficult I'll put it into my fifo buffer :-) |
| 15:07 | tance | there is no option for this |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | :D My librarians might worship you. Perhaps there would be cookies involved. |
| 15:08 | * chris_n | 's day-to-day buffer is lifo |
| 15:08 | chris_n | cookies++ |
| 15:09 | owen | wizzyrea: I remembered why I wasn't able to change the batch mod table the way I wanted to |
| 15:10 | I wanted to put the title on a separate row, with the field details in the row underneath? | |
| 15:10 | It breaks the table sorter | |
| 15:10 | Here's what I'm playing around with instead: http://www.screencast.com/t/zqZUQoWq | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | !!! |
| 15:11 | owen | Check a box to hide the column |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | !!!! |
| 15:11 | owen | Sorry, the checkboxes don't match the results in that screenshot |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | I like that idea! |
| 15:12 | owen | I'm probably crazy, but I'm thinking about saving the selection in a cookie so that it remembers your column choices |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | so it's per user too |
| 15:12 | that would be SO FRICKIN COOL. | |
| 15:12 | * owen | hopes he's not getting in too deep with this cookie idea |
| 15:13 | * chris_n | thinks one can never be too deep in cookies |
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| 15:45 | Drl-Ulm | Hallo |
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| 15:56 | owen | Got the buttons working right at least: http://www.screencast.com/t/DJqUMZ1sf |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | <3 that looks so fabulous |
| 15:57 | the only thing, I wonder if you could put the homebranch in the first column? | |
| 15:57 | or does that make it look dumb | |
| 15:57 | looking again to see what you've got in there | |
| 15:58 | ISBNs? | |
| 15:58 | reva | hi all good morning, I am in the process of installing my 3.2 Koha in Debian Lenny. In the instruction page, I am at the stage where I am invoking CPAN archives to install the addition dependencies for Perl module. |
| 15:59 | owen | wizzyrea: I'm not wedded to the ISBN showing there, but the script was written that way. I just fixed it so it worked. |
| 15:59 | I don't think I would find it useful myself | |
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| 16:01 | reva | Should I answer to configure as much as possible automatically? (Yes) or opt for manual. In which case, how do I know which ones I have installed through the Debian package, so that I won't duplicate them? |
| 16:01 | owen | wizzyrea: So you would add homebranch to the title/author column? |
| 16:02 | reva | Also when would I use this command (I am following the install instruction page): /etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized. |
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| 16:03 | wizzyrea | I think I would, let me get some feed back here just a sec |
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| 16:04 | reva | wizzyrea, was that for me? |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | Ah, they claim that the ISBN is useful |
| 16:04 | er | |
| 16:04 | useless | |
| 16:05 | they claim the isbn is useless | |
| 16:05 | by the time you're at that table | |
| 16:05 | Drl-Ulm | OWEN: Hey that rocks! Will be very useful! |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | owen++ he's awesome |
| 16:06 | reva: no, for owen | |
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| 16:07 | reva | owen, waht is the "no" for?That wizzyrea was not responding to me; or to not take the automatic configuration option? |
| 16:08 | owen | reva: No one has answered your question yet |
| 16:08 | reva | wizzyrea, sorry, just a little cross-eyed today; reading everything right to left. Got it. |
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| 16:12 | reva | anyone able to answer if I should I let it configure automatically? (Else, how do I find what Perl dependencies were already installed through Debian?) |
| 16:12 | owen | reva: You should follow the directions, and let CPAN configure everything |
| 16:13 | reva | thanks owen. :) |
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| 16:18 | Drl-Ulm | OWEN: Ah, show and tell |
| 16:18 | reva | Now, it asks if I need the Probe-perl-0.01.tar.gz installed permanently"? (It has the comment that it is just needed temporarily). Should I say I want it permanently, or no? |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | you know, when I am faced with such questions, I do what I think is best according to my judgement. You probably should do the same. No one can tell you how to configure your system, because their way might not be your way. |
| 16:23 | occasionally I get it wrong and have to back up and try again, but there's certainly no shame in that. | |
| 16:24 | Drl-Ulm | Here is one, a quick change we could add, click here-> http://www.screencast.com/user[…]b81d-4e5880879d3e <- puts google previews into Koha. Needs to be made an option, easy setup: |
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| 16:26 | owen | That would be a nice addition to the Google Jackets options Drl-Ulm |
| 16:28 | Drl-Ulm | Could be an option |
| 16:29 | reva | That is true wizzyrea. But just seeing the wisdom out there. Now "i /Test::More\Locale::Currency::Format/" command comes up with "bash: i command not found". (I am assuming in the perl module all this will be working, only the Test is composed wrong.) |
| 16:32 | Drl-Ulm | Here is another, barcodes for cell phone being used as a patron card. click here -> http://www.screencast.com/user[…]8b10-9659dacaaf0f |
| 16:37 | You need linear imaging barcode scanners to be able to scan an LCD screen cellphone | |
| 16:54 | Here is another link to our internal "Stow-Extras" tools we use. Lots of work on these, can't show all results because of patron names -> http://www.screencast.com/user[…]be89-1bb416eb5f1f | |
| 16:55 | I need to submit some of this stuff back to the project :) | |
| 16:55 | Always working on Win-PCs however - sigh. | |
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| 16:57 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:58 | owen | Hi cait |
| 16:58 | mag_away is now known as magnus | |
| 16:58 | magnus | hi cait |
| 16:59 | cait | hi owen and magnus :) |
| 17:00 | Drl-Ulm | It's alot, I need to submit some of this back. |
| 17:03 | schuster | drl-ulm were those built with php? |
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| 17:05 | Drl-Ulm | The OPAC stuff is Perl / Koha and the Slip Scheduled Notice is Perl |
| 17:05 | All the rest of the stuff is PHP | |
| 17:06 | reva | Hi anyone, the command "/etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized." says permission denied; yet I am at the root. |
| 17:08 | owen | Are you instructed by the install file to enter that? |
| 17:09 | reva | owen, yes; it says to initialize it if you have never run CPAN before. |
| 17:10 | As I have to run Config.pm for the CPAN before the long command (with all the ::checkdigit, etc.) will take effect. | |
| 17:11 | as otherwise, is not able to install the modules it thinks is needed. | |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | lunchtime! |
| 17:12 | Drl-Ulm | 3D Koha maps: Now for the 3D map project (in progress) by location / call project similar to NEU-GRAND in Turkey Click Here --> http://www.screencast.com/user[…]84c2-eb2ca3555b83 |
| 17:13 | magnus | reva: just give the "sudo cpan" command, i think |
| 17:13 | Drl-Ulm | Yes, it is def. in progress. |
| 17:14 | magnus | reva: i dont think "/etc/perl/CPAN/Config.pm initialized." is supposed to be a command |
| 17:16 | reva | magus, I am at root; I tried all combinations of sudo; when I prepend sudo it says sudo (followed by whatever) unable to resolve hot ABBS05 (which is the computer name). |
| 17:16 | So magnus, what is the command. | |
| 17:16 | owen | reva: sudo cpan |
| 17:16 | reva | for initializing the CPAN Config.pm; I just following the instructions on the page. Ok owen, I will try that. |
| 17:17 | magnus | reva: what owen said... ;-) |
| 17:17 | reva | since I am at the root I did cpan and it now has the cpan[1]> command prompt. |
| 17:18 | so which command would I be running at this prompt now? | |
| 17:18 | do I run the long command at this prompt? | |
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| 17:25 | magnus | reva: exit the cpan shell and run "sudo cpan Algorithm::Chec..." from the regular command line |
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| 17:26 | reva | ok magnu. I will. |
| 17:28 | cait | has someone email enabled in their dev installation? I have a patch for new serial issue notification not working |
| 17:28 | reva | magnus, are the back slashes supposed to be included, or do i just continue on the line and let it wrap? |
| 17:28 | cait | I would be nice if someone would signoff on it |
| 17:29 | magnus | reva: not sure, try it! ;-) |
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| 17:34 | cait | owen flees :) |
| 17:37 | reva | magnus, it is saying that "make install" returned bad status, install seems impossible. Anyone know what to do? |
| 17:41 | magnus | reva: sorry, that could be a ton of different reasons... |
| 17:43 | reva | ok, let me give you a page from another site; if you see that can help me (though the instructions are for Ubuntu not Debian), would you take a look?: http://www.blazingmoon.org/gui[…]k3-on-u810-6.html |
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| 18:08 | magnus | reva: that is for an older version of koha, on another os. i think sticking to install.debian is better |
| 18:08 | hiya nengard! | |
| 18:08 | nengard | howdy |
| 18:09 | magnus | waiting for your book to arrive ;-) |
| 18:13 | cait | hi nengard :) |
| 18:13 | serials training - even more questions | |
| 18:13 | reva | ok, where would i find the old password in mysql so I can run "sudo mysqladmin password <password>" also, is the new password supposed to be surrounded by anything? |
| 18:14 | nengard | cait - i feel your pain :) |
| 18:15 | Drl-Ulm | book ++ |
| 18:15 | cait | could be worse, questions are ok, although I suspect some bugs hiding there too |
| 18:15 | we had some strange dates like XXX and 02/00/0 | |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | reva: no. |
| 18:21 | reva | ok, so where would i find the old password so i can insert in the command and replace it with the new (without enclosing, of course; thanks wizzyrea). |
| 18:22 | Drl-Ulm | Galen: R U on? |
| 18:22 | gmcharlt | hi Drl-Ulm |
| 18:23 | Drl-Ulm | gmcharlt: Hi. If I have a patch for 3.2 which is a small enhancement, can this get into the 3.2 release? |
| 18:23 | reva | This is an aside for anyone: i copy and pasted lines of commands from the instruction web page; but now all my commands are in bold? how do I un-bold the command line edits? |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | Drl-Ulm: definitely into 3.4, possibly back-ported into 3.2.1 depending on what chris_n thinks of it |
| 18:24 | Drl-Ulm | OK, it was just a couple of quick ones - if you think they would fly. One is the Google Preview function, added independantly of other Google / Amazon / etc. options |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt: the other is tools->news->and add a slip option to print scheduled news items on the checkout slips | |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt: should I go ahead and submit? | |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea | we've been in feature freeze for a long time for 3.2 |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt | Drl-Ulm: yep, both sound worthy of consideration, so go ahead and submit for 3.4 |
| 18:26 | chris | Yeah those could go into 3.4 assuming they pass QA |
| 18:26 | Drl-Ulm | wizzyrea: gmcharlt: OK, I will toss them on for 3.4 to see if they fly, thanks. |
| 18:27 | chris | Once colin as qa manager has looked at them, then I would look at them for 3.4 inclusion |
| 18:30 | Because with 3.4 we are going to be aiming for a time based release, I'm gonna be a bit stricter about what goes in, having your patch signed off by others helps its chances | |
| 18:30 | As does unit tests and good documentation | |
| 18:31 | Of course we plan to work with ppl to help them achieve that | |
| 18:32 | Make sense dr-ulm? | |
| 18:36 | reva | hi i do not even see a mysqladmin file for it to change the password. There is a mysql folder with my.cnf. I do not see a password in it when I look at it in the reader. |
| 18:37 | chris | I should hope not |
| 18:37 | reva | chris, are you answering me? |
| 18:37 | chris | Yes |
| 18:37 | And I'm gonna say www.mysql.com | |
| 18:38 | There are docs there | |
| 18:38 | reva | ok, I did not get that. At this point I am not sure any packages were installed through Debian. |
| 18:38 | Drl-Ulm | gmcharlt: also working on an opac (patron) controlled automated email message sent when new items arrive based on a patrons preference. Here is the Link: http://www.screencast.com/user[…]afdf-38f0293e8607 |
| 18:39 | gmcharlt: I will work on sending these, 2 of them are already done, thanks | |
| 18:39 | chris: yep, makes sense, I was called out on the floor (again) a frequent occurence | |
| 18:40 | Thanks people! | |
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| 18:41 | owen-away | Hi pianohack |
| 18:41 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 18:41 | pianohack | Hey owen |
| 18:42 | How's it going? | |
| 18:42 | cait | hi pianohack |
| 18:42 | pianohack | Hi cait |
| 18:42 | reva | ok, so I am at the MySql site. But I thought Debian installs basic MySQL package. No? |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | PH! |
| 18:43 | pianohack | hey liz! |
| 18:43 | * wizzyrea | pounces pianohack with a big hug |
| 18:43 | pianohack | reva: You can install a mysql-server package in debian, yes, though it usually isn't installed by default |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | how's the new gig? |
| 18:43 | pianohack | paperwork's still going through |
| 18:44 | chris | Reva: you were asking about changing passwords for mysql |
| 18:44 | Not installing | |
| 18:44 | pianohack | Between HR bureaucracy and endless background checks, it might be another week :P |
| 18:44 | chris | Pianohack: hey you!!! |
| 18:44 | pianohack | Gah |
| 18:44 | Hey chris | |
| 18:44 | How's it going? | |
| 18:44 | chris | So I'm behind ... new gig? |
| 18:45 | owen | Background checks? pianohack is joining the FBI? |
| 18:45 | pianohack | I have a student web developer position with the USGS (government agency, does a lot of geological work) |
| 18:45 | chris | Going good 2.5 weeks until kohacon, keeping me busy |
| 18:45 | Ohhh sweet | |
| 18:46 | pianohack | One would think I'd be driving the president |
| 18:46 | chris | Heh |
| 18:46 | pianohack | but no, I'm writing PHP/Perl to drive an earthquake visualization website. Government... |
| 18:46 | And yes, conferences. Lots of work involved :) | |
| 18:46 | reva | correct. but when I tried the instructions from http://git.koha-community.org/[…];f=INSTALL.debian, I am stuck in this part. |
| 18:46 | chris | Just don't discover oil here |
| 18:46 | :) | |
| 18:47 | Ohh really | |
| 18:47 | reva | I eman chris: I am stuck at 2 and 2.1. It is not obliging |
| 18:47 | chris | Did you see the chch earthquake visualisation? |
| 18:48 | When I get to my desk ill find you the url pianohack | |
| 18:48 | pianohack | chris: The visualization that loads in Google Earth? Installing GEarth as we speak |
| 18:48 | chris | :) |
| 18:49 | They are still having tons of aftershocks | |
| 18:49 | 5.0 the other night | |
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| 18:50 | nengard | chris 15 days til I fly out!!!!! |
| 18:50 | chris | Woot |
| 18:50 | Wizzy and lee have you beat tho | |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | RAR |
| 18:50 | :) | |
| 18:50 | chris | I think 10? |
| 18:50 | cait | 14 days :) |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | 10! |
| 18:51 | chris_n | howdy pianohack |
| 18:51 | pianohack | Hey chris_n |
| 18:51 | chris | Ill start cleaning now |
| 18:51 | chris_n | owen: thanks for catching that |
| 18:51 | cait | cleaningß |
| 18:51 | Drl-Ulm | Anyone: in 3.2 are patron messaging settings working yet? (Days in advance Email Digests only? Do not notify) |
| 18:52 | chris | Yep |
| 18:52 | owen | chris_n: Bug 4988 |
| 18:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4988 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, password field in change password form should not display |
| 18:52 | chris | Hlt and hauraki are both using them in production |
| 18:52 | chris_n | owen: I'm adding a second field |
| 18:53 | cait | Drl-Ulm: we use them in 3.01.61 |
| 18:53 | chris_n | and will mark the other a dup |
| 18:53 | Drl-Ulm: we use the latest HEAD in production | |
| 18:53 | chris | Ok my stop bbiab |
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| 18:54 | Drl-Ulm | chris_n: OK, Ill take your word for it. I am showing 3.01.00.143 |
| 18:55 | chris_n: hold the phone, what is the repository of HEAD? Am I using an old version? | |
| 18:55 | chris_n | om |
| 18:56 | cait | git.koha-community.org? |
| 18:56 | Drl-Ulm | that is 3.2? or 3.0? |
| 18:56 | cait | both I think |
| 18:56 | chris_n | 3.01.00.145 |
| 18:56 | cait | ah |
| 18:57 | Drl-Ulm | chris_n: So I am running up to date (almost)? You are running .145? |
| 18:57 | chris_n | yes, and yes |
| 18:57 | Drl-Ulm | OK, good then it is time for lunch |
| 18:58 | pianohack | brendan++ # my old library, now supported by him, is up to date :) |
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| 19:05 | nengard | pianohack we're happy to help :) |
| 19:05 | pianohack | bywater++ # there |
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| 19:12 | jcamins | Is there any way to get a list of all topical authorities? |
| 19:12 | When I change the authority search from "Default," I get a 500 Error. | |
| 19:14 | (unless I enter something into the search, but what I want is a list of every single topical heading) | |
| 19:16 | cait | jcamins: I am sorry, I dont know how to get them all |
| 19:17 | jcamins: the empy search does not work there | |
| 19:18 | reva | so how do i list the packages that are there in the debian install? is there a command for that/ |
| 19:20 | jcamins | cait: I'll have to file a bug for that. |
| 19:21 | Thanks for checking. | |
| 19:21 | owen | reva: Why do you need to? |
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| 19:29 | reva | because I am not sure what packages I selected when I installed (I used the built inGUI installer for Debian). I remember picking sql and perl and I see two folders that it has created for them. But when I follow the instructions per the web page, it is throwing up "errror" or command not found msgs. |
| 19:30 | jcamins, hi. I am in the middle of installing mysql. (Just to let you know, i do not see a folder for yaz or zebra; i only see ones for mysql and perl). | |
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| 19:33 | jcamins | reva: other than saying that if you follow the instructions exactly, you should end up with a working Koha installation, I don't know what to tell you. To learn more about Linux in general I suggest this book: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ (I've never read it, but it looks like it provides an introduction) |
| 19:37 | reva | thanks jcamins. but i have followed and the first part seemed to have worked. and the perl module threw up a lot of msgs as well; but i was told by someone here to ignore and see what happens if i went on to the mysql part.:( |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Okay, that makes sense. |
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| 19:37 | jcamins | So just run step 2.1-whatever. |
| 19:37 | :) | |
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| 19:40 | briceSanc | hello |
| 19:40 | chris | hi briceSanc |
| 19:41 | pianohack | bye all, time for a nap |
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| 19:42 | owen | A nap! The stories we've heard about gov't jobs are true! |
| 19:42 | chris | hehe |
| 19:43 | cait | hm time for a nap here too :) |
| 19:43 | only 3 work days before kohacon :) | |
| 19:43 | good night all :) | |
| 19:43 | reva | yes jcamins, the 2.1 is giving me trouble. |
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| 19:43 | reva | it says it cannot find mysqladmin. |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Did you run all the steps before that? |
| 19:44 | Steps 1.4-1.5? | |
| 19:45 | reva | yes, just the perl module steps came up with some errors; but i was told that some of them may be inocuous and to go ahead to the mysql part. |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Strange. |
| 19:47 | Then I have no idea what to tell you. | |
| 19:48 | reva | i think it ran ok to 1.5; but i remember having to tweak the command for 1.5. so I am not sure what happened at 1.5. also, cpan perl installer gave a lot of make "this" failed kind of msgs. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | reva: how did you tweak the command for 1.5? |
| 19:50 | chris_n | any ideas on what the designed scope of the borrowers permission was/is in light of the fact that the variable name used in members.pl is NoUpdateLogin? |
| 19:51 | was the intent simply to disallow modification of patron login info? | |
| 19:51 | or more broadly to disallow modification of all patron info? | |
| 19:51 | chris | the former i think |
| 19:51 | reva | ok, install_misc ....it said install_misc...cannot be found. I cannot recall the tweak though. :( But I did have to do something to the command.) (Oh wait, may be I had switch it back to root to execute that.) But now I am logged in as root, so that is not the issue. |
| 19:54 | jcamins | reva: I would suggest you start over at step 1.3. It will not break anything if you run a step twice. |
| 19:55 | Other than that, I have no suggestions. | |
| 19:56 | reva | Ok, I will do that start from 1.3. Thanks jcamins:) |
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| 20:09 | owen | Cookies successfully baked! |
| 20:10 | chris | ! :) |
| 20:10 | owen | Javascript cookies :) |
| 20:12 | And now it is time to go. Bye all! | |
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| 20:33 | chris | http://www.liblime.com/ |
| 20:33 | *sigh* | |
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| 20:34 | chris | http://prelaunch.agencyofrecord.com/liblime/koha- |
| 20:35 | not even pretending its not a fork anymore | |
| 20:36 | jcamins | What is agencyofrecord? |
| 20:36 | chris | must be who did their site for them |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:37 | chris | http://www.liblime.com/ |
| 20:37 | links from here | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Yeah, I saw. And was confused. |
| 20:37 | chris | im pretty sure owen wont like being quoted |
| 20:37 | http://prelaunch.agencyofrecor[…]ime/our-customers | |
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| 20:38 | jcamins | No, I would suppose not. |
| 20:38 | CGI020 | hello |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 20:39 | CGI020 | hoe to enable the book cavers on opac serch |
| 20:39 | how to enable the book covers in opac | |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | do you have an amazon aws account? |
| 20:41 | CGI020 | no |
| 20:42 | chris | what version of Koha? |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | Then you should get one, first (if you want amazon covers) |
| 20:42 | CGI020 | koha 3.00.06 |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | have a look at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]l/?ch=c19#AEN1024 |
| 20:43 | under "amazon" | |
| 20:43 | CGI020 | i dont want amazon covers i want to add manualy mo covers |
| 20:44 | chris | well built in , yuo can either use google or amazon covers, there is no built in way to add your own |
| 20:44 | CGI020 | ok thanks |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | it's a copyright problem, anyway, for most things. |
| 20:44 | (unless the books are out of copyright, of course) | |
| 20:46 | * jcamins | supposes he probably won't have to worry about that issue when he starts working on custom book cover image support, since he works with sixteenth and seventeenth century books ;) |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | nope, def not |
| 20:50 | briceSanc | Koha is a Liblime's registred trademark ???? |
| 20:51 | chris | in the US yes |
| 20:51 | briceSanc | or KOHA is a Liblime's registred trademark ???? |
| 20:51 | chris | probably KOHA |
| 20:51 | briceSanc | ok... |
| 20:52 | chris | its bogus either way :) |
| 20:53 | wasabi | a quick Q? liblime managed to reg. KOHA , not Koha, in the USA? |
| 20:53 | chris | you'd have to do a tm search it might have been koha |
| 20:53 | they did it years ago | |
| 20:53 | it doesnt really matter | |
| 20:53 | its more the lies on the site that are offensive ;) | |
| 20:54 | wasabi | so why are they attempting a capitalization hack on the word? |
| 20:54 | chris | same reason they changed the logo |
| 20:54 | wasabi | KOHA, not Koha, koha , etc? |
| 20:54 | chris | to distance themselves from actual koha |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/sho[…]te=4003:2ce3l.2.2 |
| 20:55 | chris | theres nothing on the site that mentions koha-community.org .. or any of the history of koha |
| 20:55 | they are pretending they are KOHA | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | wasabi does that help at all? |
| 20:55 | wasabi | sure it does |
| 20:57 | such a strange game... | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | it *is* a strange game |
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| 21:50 | moodaepo | liblime-- ptfs-- |
| 21:50 | @karma | |
| 21:50 | munin | moodaepo: Highest karma: "chris" (168), "owen" (163), and "gmcharlt" (157). Lowest karma: "<!" (-66), "failed" (-43), and "-" (-28). You (moodaepo) are ranked 159 out of 994. |
| 21:51 | moodaepo | @karma liblime |
| 21:51 | munin | moodaepo: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 11 times for a total karma of -11. |
| 21:51 | moodaepo | @karma ptfs |
| 21:51 | munin | moodaepo: Karma for "ptfs" has been increased 8 times and decreased 6 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 21:52 | moodaepo | <!++ |
| 21:52 | chris | heh |
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| 22:33 | wasabi | ptfs-- from me too |
| 22:35 | @ptfs please do not attempt to rebrand the Koha word, or the Koha logo, thank you :) | |
| 22:35 | munin | wasabi: Error: "ptfs" is not a valid command. |
| 22:35 | wasabi | -> http://www.liblime.com/ |
| 22:39 | richard | a pity that the own the rights to the real logo |
| 22:52 | wasabi | yeah, that was a fuck-up ;) |
| 22:53 | i like this post , on that topic -> http://www.cpbibliography.com/[…]e-koha-community/ | |
| 22:56 | chris_n | I find it a bit poetic that the url rewrite does not work on liblime's site... http://prelaunch.agencyofrecor[…]m/liblime/welcome |
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| 23:19 | jcamins_a | chris_n: perhaps this is a known issue... URL rewriting breaks history rewriting and vice versa? |
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| 23:31 | wasabi | jcamins: i think they have a buggy apache.conf, thats all... |
| 23:36 | jcamins | wasabi: well, yes, but my suggestion struck me as poetic. |
| 23:37 | wasabi | lol, ah... i think i got you :) |
| 23:40 | chris | :) |
| 23:40 | wasabi | jcamins i really like your 'pledge' post |
| 23:41 | jcamins | wasabi: I'm glad to hear it. I stand by it. |
| 23:41 | wasabi | yes, i feel the same way as you |
| 23:41 | chris | the good thing, and the thing not to lose sight of, is that almost everyone does |
| 23:41 | this isnt a bunch of organisations doing bad thigns .. its just one | |
| 23:42 | wasabi | lol, yeah pretty much |
| 23:45 | ... an opinion i plan on sharing at kohacon10, to be *quite* sure | |
| 23:52 | chris | well yeah, im not sure what we can do about it, but really enough is enough |
| 23:53 | wasabi | well, one thing *i* can do is bitch to anyone that finds it slighty interesting, about what *specifically* is being attempted by ptfs/liblime |
| 23:54 | ... which we've all worked out months ago, but they are playing coy about | |
| 23:54 | interested...? | |
| 23:54 | :) | |
| 23:55 | chris | yeah exactly, well at leats its out in the open now, they are trying to hijack the project as a liblime only thing |
| 23:59 | wasabi | i wonder how shortly we can expect the newly branded 'KOHA' wording and logo on koha.org ? |
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| 23:59 | chris | i think they have given up on koha.org |
| 23:59 | they dont link/talk about it |
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