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| 00:50 | brendan_l | @wunder 93117 |
| 00:50 | munin | brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (5:54 PM PDT on October 03, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:50 | brendan_l | feels colder than that |
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| 01:29 | cait | morning #koha |
| 01:32 | chris | hi cait, up earlyish again eh? |
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| 01:56 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 01:56 | munin | cait1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (4:00 AM CEST on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:57 | cait1 | @wunder wellington nz |
| 01:57 | munin | cait1: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (2:00 PM NZDT on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:57 | chris | why are you awake at 4am? |
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| 02:04 | cait1 | train leaves at 4:48 |
| 02:05 | and I am not really awake :) | |
| 02:05 | chris | heh |
| 02:07 | cait1 | more like living dead |
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| 03:06 | Amit | heya chris |
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| 04:36 | robin | https://identi.ca/notice/53937368 <-- (in case you're wondering, X11R5 is a markov bot) |
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| 07:31 | ivanc | hallo #koha |
| 07:35 | chris | hdl: thanks for the email |
| 07:35 | fredericd: are you around? | |
| 07:35 | hi ivanc | |
| 07:35 | hdl | hi chris you're welcome |
| 07:38 | ivanc | hi cris |
| 07:40 | larsw | hi |
| 07:42 | chris | hiya larsw |
| 07:43 | magnus | g'day #koha |
| 07:43 | chris | scandanavia in the house |
| 07:44 | hdl | Hi magnus |
| 07:46 | magnus | yo! |
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| 07:58 | chris | http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/ |
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| 08:06 | LUMHS | I want to install koha-3.06 on ubuntu 10.04 |
| 08:06 | magnus | chris: as someone said on twitter: beautiful! same designer as HLT? |
| 08:07 | LUMHS | when I want to access following link by following the install.ubuntu file, it is not accessing |
| 08:07 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad | |
| 08:07 | chris | magnus: HLT was katipo design, catalyst did the design for HDC |
| 08:08 | magnus | chris: ah |
| 08:10 | LUMHS | is it necessary to follow these instructions which r on link mentioned above on ubuntu 10.04 |
| 08:10 | chris | LUMHS: with 10.04 you dont have to actually worry about that anyway, it will be set up for utf8 |
| 08:11 | LUMHS | another thing My network is on wifi, so is it ok for installation of koha |
| 08:11 | what should I use instead of ip address | |
| 08:11 | chris | ? |
| 08:11 | wifi still uses ip addresses | |
| 08:15 | LUMHS | chris: actually our wifi n/w get random ip addresses each time |
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| 08:16 | chris | well if you want to connect to the koha server, you are going to need to set it up so that it does static dhcp for the server |
| 08:18 | LUMHS | chris: ok Im trying to keep static. I am just new user of linux and koha, I would be thankful to u if u will guide me throughout installation |
| 08:20 | chris | if you are knew to linux and koha |
| 08:20 | then you should install it using the packages | |
| 08:21 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages | |
| 08:45 | * magnus | wonders if this might be useful and/or fun http://lanyrd.com/2010/kohacon/ |
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| 09:04 | chris | might be fun |
| 09:04 | last kohacon wizzyrea set up coveritlive | |
| 09:04 | which worked quite well | |
| 09:05 | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/kohacon-09/ | |
| 09:05 | magnus: did you set it up? (the lanyrd one) | |
| 09:06 | magnus | nice |
| 09:06 | no it was already there | |
| 09:09 | LUMHS | CHRIS: thanks for providing this information, now should I follow these links or follow install.ubuntu |
| 09:09 | chris | LUMHS: if you are new to linux, id use the packages |
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| 09:17 | LUMHS | ok Im reading |
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| 09:19 | Amit | heya magnus |
| 09:20 | magnus | hi Amit |
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| 09:22 | LUMHS | . |
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| 10:02 | LUMHS | how can I add the security keys for repositories |
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| 10:10 | LUMHS | chris: How can I add the security keys for repositories |
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| 10:24 | LUMHS | when I tried to install package by package koha it show error sudo apt-get install koha |
| 10:24 | E: Couldn't find package koha | |
| 10:27 | pastebot | "LUMHS" at 121.52.157.205 pasted "didn not work sudo apt-get install koha" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 |
| 10:38 | magnus | LUMHS: did you follow these steps? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_packages#Sources |
| 10:48 | LUMHS | magnusI have followed all the steps before "installing kona" |
| 10:48 | magnus | and you did "sudo apt-get update" after you edited "/etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 10:48 | ? | |
| 10:49 | LUMHS | yes I did |
| 10:50 | during update it show "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." | |
| 10:50 | magnus | hm, i'm out of ideas, then... |
| 10:53 | LUMHS | http://paste.koha-community.org/72 |
| 10:54 | magnus: what should I do now, May I follow install.ubuntu file or this one | |
| 10:56 | during apt-get update it show 'The host was not found' | |
| 10:59 | ivanc | LUMHS indexdata.dk look down |
| 10:59 | magnus | in http://paste.koha-community.org/72 it says ftp.index.data.dk on the first line - that should be ftp.indexdata.dk |
| 11:00 | i get a response from ftp://ftp.indexdata.dk/ | |
| 11:00 | ivanc | magnus yes correct! |
| 11:01 | magnus | LUMHS go back to /etc/apt/sources.list and check the spelling |
| 11:02 | LUMHS | ok |
| 11:03 | magnus: what is the meaning of add the security keys for these reporsities | |
| 11:04 | and 'you're already sudo-active before you run Koha Community Key " | |
| 11:04 | Im not getting these points | |
| 11:06 | magnus | sudo-active - if you go for a while without using sudo it will ask you to re-enter your password. i think it means that you should make sure you are "logged in" to sodu, otherwise sudo asking for the password will mess up the commands. i think |
| 11:07 | LUMHS | ok |
| 11:08 | magnus | s/sodu/sudo/ |
| 11:09 | * magnus | has to run out on an errand |
| 11:09 | magnus is now known as magnus_er | |
| 11:10 | LUMHS | Im running each command with writting prefix as sudo |
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| 11:15 | LUMHS | Thanks It is working now |
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| 11:22 | LUMHS | what should I keep 'mail name of your system' |
| 11:30 | Im stick on 'Configuring nullmailer' and getting what is it? | |
| 11:30 | could any one help me | |
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| 11:43 | magnus_er is now known as magnus | |
| 11:43 | magnus | not sure of that one... |
| 11:45 | LUMHS | magnus: what about database, we have to create or it would be created by default |
| 11:46 | magnus | as long as you use the packages i *think* it is created for you - i have only run through that process once, though, so i'm not absolutely sure |
| 12:00 | LUMHS | Hurrah! I completed succefully |
| 12:01 | I thankful to those who cooperated me | |
| 12:08 | magnus | LUMHS: congratulations! :-) wooho! |
| 12:13 | LUMHS | magnus: couple of thanks for guidance |
| 12:14 | I just want to ask one thing what is difference b/w normal installation of koha and this package by package | |
| 12:14 | magnus | the package does a lot of the work for you |
| 12:15 | the alternative is to do lots of the steps by hand | |
| 12:15 | LUMHS | Yes, I think so, bz in install.ubuntu, lot of steps are there |
| 12:16 | most of people r using MS windows, so when will the latest version of koha will relese for windows | |
| 12:31 | magnus | i don't hink that is high on the list of priorities - the classic LAMP stack is the main focus |
| 12:36 | and anyway i think it is more a question of getting the perl modules that koha builds on to work on windows, which is sort of "ourside the scope" of the koha project | |
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| 13:00 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 13:01 | magnus | g'day jcamins |
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| 13:05 | jcamins | How's life on the other side of the pond, magnus? |
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| 13:06 | magnus | not too shabby, jcamins, but fall is definitely approaching... |
| 13:06 | and on your side? | |
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| 13:07 | jcamins | Well, today it's finally cool, which is nice, but the rain storm last week left a mold infestation in our office. |
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| 13:08 | owen | Man, I had to slip munin a twenty just to get in |
| 13:10 | jwagner | Maybe munin doesn't like to work on Mondays either.... |
| 13:10 | jcamins | If munin would like, there's a contractor to be supervised at my apartment this afternoon. Technically that's not "work." |
| 13:12 | magnus | jcamins: wow that must have been some rain storm |
| 13:13 | jcamins | magnus: yeah, it was pretty amazing. I was out in Forest Hills on Saturday, and there was a giant, seven-storey tree that had been knocked in half by the wind. |
| 13:14 | magnus | ouch |
| 13:14 | jwagner | We got 7-8 inches or more in Maryland -- lots of flooding and general wetness. |
| 13:18 | magnus | that is a LOT of water! |
| 13:20 | jcamins | jwagner: I hope that water stayed out of your home? |
| 13:21 | jwagner | Mostly. |
| 13:21 | I have an outside stairwell to my basement door and when the drain gets clogged or there's a lot of rain in a short time, water backs up over the doorsill and into the basement. I'm trying to get zoning approval now to build a roof over the stairwell, sigh. | |
| 13:23 | jcamins | Ick. |
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| 13:35 | owen | Hi sekjal & druthb |
| 13:36 | druthb | Good morning, owen! :) |
| 13:36 | sekjal | morning, owen |
| 13:36 | * druthb | sees kf's chair empty, and pouts a little. |
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| 13:55 | owen | Hi nengard |
| 13:55 | nengard | hiya |
| 14:03 | hdl | hi |
| 14:03 | jwagner | Bonjour hdl |
| 14:05 | jcamins | Can you run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl while people are using your catalog? |
| 14:06 | sekjal | jcamins: you can, but it may slow things down. I don't think it breaks indexing, though. |
| 14:06 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 14:06 | It's not like we're a high-activity library, anyway. :) | |
| 14:09 | owen | Hmm... So Bug 5265 happens because "if ( $item = GetItem( 0, $barcode ) )" in Page.pm returns true for a non-existent barcode |
| 14:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5265 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, error message on lists is misleading |
| 14:10 | owen | Should GetItem *not* return true in that case, or should Page.pm just check for the existence of $item->itemnumber? |
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| 14:17 | owen | The only other similar example does the latter. |
| 14:17 | hdl | I think Page.pm should check existence |
| 14:17 | owen | Thanks hdl |
| 14:20 | * chris_n | thinks OO should offer a command filter which handles vim command syntax :) |
| 14:22 | jcamins | chris_n: you should contribute one to LibreOffice. ;) |
| 14:27 | chris_n | occasionally muscle memory becomes a problem... |
| 14:30 | nengard | on hold with virgin australia cause i need to tell them about my 'mobility limitations' (as they call it) and the music is kind of annoying |
| 14:31 | wizzy_fre | nengard: when do you leave |
| 14:31 | ? | |
| 14:31 | wizzy_fre is now known as wizzyrea | |
| 14:31 | * wizzyrea | realizes she could just look on tripit >.> |
| 14:36 | nengard | wizzy_fre 10/20 |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | o cool, os you're staying after the conf. |
| 14:38 | we are coming early | |
| 14:39 | tacking the conf on the end | |
| 14:39 | nengard | we're doing the other way |
| 14:39 | we come back on the 5th of november | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Stupid-date-search-hate-it-hate-it-hate-it. |
| 14:39 | nengard | turns out we're on the same 2 flights a sekjal so i was just calling to get us all seats together :) |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | we come back the 2nd |
| 14:40 | I like the idea of a koha appliance rather like the datto (remote backup) | |
| 14:40 | * wizzyrea | ponders this. |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | (reading the ARM thread on the list) |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 14:41 | nengard | woo hoo I just won a free tech book on : http://www.101freetechbooks.com |
| 14:41 | owen | hdl still around? Or anyone who can answer a UNIMARC question? |
| 14:41 | jcamins | How do you specify a boolean AND operation in the advanced search? |
| 14:41 | hdl | owen: yes ? |
| 14:42 | owen | I'm looking at Bug 5240 and wondering whether we really need to paginate that page, especially with such a high number as 30 per page |
| 14:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5240 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, next link hidden on edit subfields |
| 14:42 | owen | There couldn't be more than 36 lines total, right? |
| 14:42 | 0-9 and a-z ? | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | owen: uppercase and lowercase. |
| 14:43 | owen | Ah, thanks jcamins. So 62 is possible |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Yeah, though possibly not advisable. |
| 14:45 | owen | Still... I wonder if paginating is worth it? |
| 14:45 | hdl | owen: I donot think so |
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| 14:53 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Okay, that's really weird. |
| 14:55 | Named indexes break search limits? | |
| 14:57 | How do I add an option to the idx boxes on the Advanced Search screen only when "More Options" has been selected? | |
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| 15:00 | jcamins | Okay, I don't have an answer to my second question, but CCL search prefixes do seem to break the year limit, if nothing else. |
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| 15:01 | crion | good day! |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | hello there |
| 15:01 | crion | can anyone explain how can we set koha to send text messages |
| 15:01 | ? | |
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| 15:03 | jcamins | I have confirmed my bug on the ByWater demo, which I don't think has any customizations. |
| 15:03 | sekjal | jcamins: nope, that demo runs straight community code. nothing that wasn't committed by the RM |
| 15:04 | it is a couple revisions behind... I think on 3.01.00.143.... | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | I don't think I heard anything about this bug recently, though, so I don't imagine the most recent patch(es) fixed it. |
| 15:06 | nengard | crion you need an SMS driver for text msgs to work - and those aren't free |
| 15:07 | see 1.1.12.17. SMSSendDriver on http://koha-community.org/docu[…]al/?ch=c19#AEN486 | |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | nengard: do you have on your manual list the addition of a note.gif to the repo? |
| 15:08 | (I can't remember) | |
| 15:08 | nengard | wizzyrea - you told me and I promptly forgot :) |
| 15:08 | I'll do it todday | |
| 15:08 | today | |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | we have Tip and Important, just need "note" |
| 15:08 | COOL | |
| 15:08 | ty | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Weird... |
| 15:09 | Are language limits broken? | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | jcamins: the stuff in the 880? |
| 15:10 | wait that's translations | |
| 15:10 | never mind | |
| 15:10 | jcamins | No, limit by language in the Advanced Search. |
| 15:10 | crion | nengard: so how can i acquire sms driver? Do i have to contact one telecommunication company here? sorry but i just can't imagine what a sms driver is.. |
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| 15:10 | jcamins | wtf? |
| 15:10 | Okay, now I'm beyond baffled. | |
| 15:10 | There seems to be no relationship between my results and my searches. | |
| 15:11 | I'll blame it on bad data. | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | ^^ I have noticed similar things, but thought it also was bad data |
| 15:11 | jcamins | Who is running Koha on head with a lot of records in multiple languages? |
| 15:11 | Or near head, for that matter. | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | I don't have records in multiple languages, but I think I"ve got at least spanish |
| 15:12 | you're talking about the OPAC? | |
| 15:12 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 15:12 | What I am seeing is that the search is not using the correct language codes. | |
| 15:13 | Wait, let me revise that. | |
| 15:13 | French is broken. | |
| 15:13 | nengard | crion, I've never done it - all I know is that I was told you had to pay for a sms driver ... has anyone else done this? |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Mystery solved. |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | which brings up something else |
| 15:15 | I just did a full search limited by spanish, and what kind of results should I be expecting? | |
| 15:15 | anything with "spanish" in the marc record? | |
| 15:16 | because that's what I got | |
| 15:16 | with spanish *anywhere* in the marc record | |
| 15:16 | jcamins | You should be getting records with spa in 008 or 041. |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | so dvd's with spanish subtitles |
| 15:17 | jcamins | I was thinking I'd file a bug on that, too. |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | ooh, yea, that's not right |
| 15:17 | it's looking through the entire record | |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Correct behavior should be 008 or 041*a* |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | oh wait |
| 15:17 | 041... let me double check | |
| 15:17 | sekjal | other 041 subfields are also good... but not $h |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | yea, these results look better than I first thought |
| 15:18 | crion | nengard: I think i have to dig more on this. thank you for the time. Got to sleep now. |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | bc the dvd's all have spa in the 041 |
| 15:19 | bc of the subtitles | |
| 15:20 | which is a little bit misleading, but eh. | |
| 15:22 | My french seems to be working, it's finding fre | |
| 15:22 | afk | |
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| 15:24 | jcamins | Yeah, but it's also finding any other language with "fr". |
| 15:24 | Like Afrikaans. | |
| 15:24 | Ohhh. | |
| 15:24 | I see why. | |
| 15:24 | So that it will also pull up Middle and Old French. | |
| 15:25 | Sadly that means it also pulls up Frisian. | |
| 15:25 | Probably no one else ever has anything in Frisian or Afrikaans, so it's not obvious. | |
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| 15:30 | rhcl | If an overdue item has reached the "bill" stage, would running overdue_notices.pl still generate an overdue notice on that item? |
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| 15:35 | * jcamins | is very glad that his family sent a container of cookies home with him after he dropped the cat off in central Jersey where it would be safe from the mold |
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| 15:41 | jcamins | # Deprecated, but preserved because it's interesting :-) |
| 15:41 | ^^ comment in opac-search.pl | |
| 15:44 | There must be some way to have jquery catch when expandedOptions are in use. | |
| 15:45 | Or should I just add "Journal title" to all the search dropdowns, come what may? | |
| 15:46 | I'll do the latter. Voyager has that option, and no one understands it. Why shouldn't we? | |
| 15:47 | jwagner | jcamins, you have mold at home? |
| 15:48 | jcamins | jwagner: yeah, we had a leak in the study, and my wife -- who is sensitive to mold -- was so sick I had to send her to stay with my parents within 48 hours of discovering the leak. |
| 15:48 | jwagner | Yikes. No fun. I had mold in the basement after one of the various water problems. Lots of removing drywall, applying mold-killing solutions, etc. etc. |
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| 15:49 | briceSanc | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 |
| 15:49 | munin | 04Bug 5051: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
| 15:49 | briceSanc | hello |
| 15:51 | owen | briceSanc: I doubt that patch will make it into 3.2. Hopefully 3.4. |
| 15:56 | jcamins | nengard: a new record or an old record? |
| 15:57 | nengard | editing an old records - if you're asking about my recent bug report |
| 15:57 | jcamins | Yes, I was. |
| 15:57 | I'll give it a try. | |
| 15:59 | nengard | jcamins - i added my steps |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 16:11 | nengard: the problem is that you can't change to the default framework. | |
| 16:12 | nengard | ah - you want to clarify that on the bug report? or should I? |
| 16:12 | jcamins | I can do it. |
| 16:12 | It's related to wizzyrea's bug about resetting authorized values. | |
| 16:13 | On the subject of which, perhaps a goal for 3.6 should be eliminating '' having the meaning 'default' and the meaning 'nothing.' | |
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| 16:13 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:13 | rhcl | hi cait |
| 16:13 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 16:13 | cait | hi rhcl and jcamins :) |
| 16:26 | briceSanc | owen, thks for your answer |
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| 16:38 | Drl-Ulm | Lo' all |
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| 16:40 | owen | Hi Drl-Ulm , wajasu |
| 16:41 | wajasu | hiya |
| 16:42 | Drl-Ulm | We should all make our names look like "Myxlplyx" |
| 16:42 | wajasu | or xyzzy |
| 16:45 | Drl-Ulm | Sure |
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| 16:55 | wizzyrea | oh, speaking of that bug |
| 16:55 | I have a patch if for bug 4935 on bugzilla if someone would sign off on it | |
| 16:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4935 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Batch Modify tool cannot "unset" options such as Lost status |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | or at least, someone apply it and let me know if it works for you like it did for me >.> |
| 16:56 | because there was a lot of drama around it. | |
| 16:56 | (here) | |
| 16:57 | nengard | wizzyrea i'll give it a whirl |
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| 17:14 | chris | morning |
| 17:14 | sekjal | morning, chris |
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| 17:16 | reva | hi all, do I pick En_US.utf-8 for my language choice in Debian Lenny? |
| 17:17 | it has en_US, and also en_US.iso-8859-15. | |
| 17:17 | hi jcamins: I am installing my 3.2:) | |
| 17:21 | cait | morning chris |
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| 17:24 | reva | hi cait: we are installing the Debian Lenny; should I click on openssh-client-udeb as one of the options for it to install? |
| 17:24 | cait | reva: I think I have no answer here |
| 17:24 | if you want to use ssh perhaps yes? | |
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| 17:25 | jcamins_a | Contractors. Argh! |
| 17:25 | So long, #koha | |
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| 17:25 | reva | thanks cait. |
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| 17:40 | chris | how did the training go cait ? |
| 17:44 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: Hello, any reviews yet for your book? IT looks intertesting. |
| 17:44 | nengard | no one has told me of a review |
| 17:44 | chris can tell you what he thinks about it though :) | |
| 17:44 | i actually don't even have my copy yet! | |
| 17:45 | so I assume others are still waiting too | |
| 17:45 | chris | i liked it :) |
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| 17:49 | cait | chris: I think it was great, although a lot of new questions came up |
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| 17:54 | cait1 | tt |
| 17:54 | nengard | cait that's always what happens when i do training |
| 17:54 | more questions & bug reports | |
| 17:55 | cait1 | yep |
| 17:55 | and enhancement requests | |
| 17:55 | today was acq, tomorrow is serials | |
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| 18:12 | owen | Is there a preferred method for applying multiple regular expressions to a string? |
| 18:13 | One after the other? In a loop? doesn't matter? | |
| 18:14 | chris | one after the other is fine |
| 18:14 | of course you could probably do it all in one regular expression | |
| 18:15 | but it would become fairly unreadable, 1 after the other is fine | |
| 18:15 | also if you put a comment why you are doing it, and what it is doing .. future koha programmers will worship you for it | |
| 18:16 | instead of cursing your name with wtfs | |
| 18:16 | owen | chris: I'm trying to split up the long ISBN string output by the z39.50 search results page so that the line will break and the table won't be so wide |
| 18:16 | chris | cool, thats the perfect comment to put in the code |
| 18:16 | owen | $oldbiblio->{isbn} =~ s/\|/ \| /g if $oldbiblio->{isbn}; |
| 18:16 | So that finds "|" and pads with with spaces, " | " | |
| 18:17 | But I'd like to do the same with "(" | |
| 18:18 | chris | right |
| 18:19 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: Thanks! had to go onto the floor again |
| 18:19 | nengard | np |
| 18:20 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: well, it is cool that such a book is coming out, especially from the Koha camp. Libraries could save so much more if more open source were adopted |
| 18:20 | chris | how about \W |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | Drl-Ulm: not to mention that we wouldn't be tied to a specific vendor (*cough* overdrive *cough*) |
| 18:20 | nengard | i only briefly mention cost benefits, since there isn't always a savings - it's more about open source in general |
| 18:21 | chris | yeah cost is the least important reason |
| 18:21 | nengard | community, collaboration, etc |
| 18:21 | chris | thats why i like the book, it gets to the heart of what is really important about free software |
| 18:21 | Drl-Ulm | Ah yes. Was there a solution to that in the book? - There seems to be an issue with "what is a digital checkout/download" Otherwise I could dump in Gutenberg and count download links. |
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| 18:22 | chris | owen: \W is a non word character so will (\w is word so alphanumeric and _) |
| 18:22 | s/(\W)/ $1 /g; | |
| 18:22 | Drl-Ulm | nengard: well for us it has saved cost in most cases and certainly added lots of flexibility |
| 18:22 | chris | although that would catch : too |
| 18:24 | owen: so to be better s/(\||\)/ $1 /g | |
| 18:25 | that might work | |
| 18:25 | i havent had coffee yet tho so test it :) | |
| 18:25 | owen | Ah, thanks, that's just what I was trying, but I left out the () around the OR |
| 18:26 | I knew there was some kind of contructionlike "$1" and I couldn't remember it! | |
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| 18:35 | chris | its a handy one |
| 18:55 | Back from the bus | |
| 19:05 | @wunder wellington,nz | |
| 19:05 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on October 05, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:07 | nengard | chris it better get warmer in the next couple of weeks :) hehe |
| 19:08 | chris | Its 8am that's pretty warm for 8 |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | what's 11... in the 50's F? |
| 19:08 | chris | Who knows |
| 19:08 | * wizzyrea | goes to convert it... |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | 51.8, I'm good. ;) |
| 19:09 | chris | Its blue skies |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | we've had weather like that here the last few days |
| 19:09 | chris | That's all I care about |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | just perfect |
| 19:09 | lil chilly in the morning, nice warm afternoons | |
| 19:11 | chris | Daily savings here too didn't get dark til after 7 last night |
| 19:11 | cait1 | :) |
| 19:12 | chris | So long afternoons |
| 19:13 | However this is wellington it could be howling gales tomorrow | |
| 19:13 | You never know | |
| 19:18 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 19:18 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in Mercer County, Ewing, New Jersey is 11.3�C (3:26 PM EDT on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:18 | nengard | wow - it feels so much colder than that here |
| 19:19 | cait1 | @wunder heidelberg |
| 19:19 | munin | cait1: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 19:19 | cait1 | @wunder heidelberg germany |
| 19:19 | munin | cait1: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 16.9�C (9:00 PM CEST on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 19:21 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 18.2�C (2:28 PM CDT on October 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | poifect |
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| 19:31 | nengard | never thought I'd want to be back in kansas :) hehe |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | hrmph. Kansas has it's charms. |
| 19:32 | :) | |
| 19:33 | nengard | your part does - other parts - well let's just say i've been in some places i don't need to return to |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | ooh, yea great bend not so much |
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| 19:48 | reva | hi anyone, how would I mount the other partition in my debian partition? |
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| 19:50 | reva | because I want to pull in some files from my winxp, which is in the other partition. |
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| 19:54 | chris | reva: you probably need to find a linux support channel, or read some stuff on the web |
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| 19:56 | reva | thanks chris; I thought someone here may know it readily:). |
| 20:04 | Right now, the boot sequence just flies by on the screen. Where do I change the time it displays for changing from one OS to another? | |
| 20:05 | owen | reva: you probably need to find a linux support channel, or read some stuff on the web |
| 20:05 | reva | Ok. Are you the chris who amended the koha install manual? |
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| 20:07 | reva | hi owen, I meant the Chris who responded before you. |
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| 21:10 | aindilis2 | I have a library and I installed the sample database data. Now we've gone and added lots of actual records to the system. I cannot be sure of which "library" they are in. Any suggestions on how to begin cleaning it up? |
| 21:10 | I would like to have just one library and one branch when completed, with multiple sections for Audio Visual, Archival, etc. | |
| 21:11 | chris | what version of Koha |
| 21:11 | aindilis2 | 3.00.00 I believe |
| 21:11 | chris | really??? |
| 21:11 | thats really really really old | |
| 21:11 | aindilis2 | well I haven't been so active, I am an volunteer amateur |
| 21:12 | chris | when did you install koha? |
| 21:12 | aindilis2 | I haven't upgraded the system thinking I should probably sort out the records first |
| 21:12 | I can tell you exactly if you hold on a sec, I should have logged in first | |
| 21:12 | chris | (august 2008 is when 3.0.0 was released) |
| 21:13 | aindilis2 | 2008-06-29 seems to be the install date |
| 21:14 | well should I just manually review the records or is there a way to test them somehow | |
| 21:14 | chris | well, in 3.2 there is a batch modification tool for items |
| 21:14 | aindilis2 | also I'm a decent perl programmer |
| 21:14 | should I update to 3.2 then? | |
| 21:14 | chris | you could move them all to one branch in one go |
| 21:14 | aindilis2 | with 3.2 |
| 21:14 | chris | yes |
| 21:14 | aindilis2 | and how would you get rid of the fake ones? |
| 21:14 | chris | the fake branches? |
| 21:14 | aindilis2 | the marc records that are for holdings we don't want nor have |
| 21:15 | that were part of the initial sample database | |
| 21:15 | chris | is your koha actually in use? |
| 21:15 | aindilis2 | sort of |
| 21:15 | the thing is we've been adding records to it that we don't have any other account of | |
| 21:15 | history for | |
| 21:15 | manually | |
| 21:16 | chris | you could export them |
| 21:16 | using the export records in tools | |
| 21:16 | find the highest biblionumber of hte fake records, and export all records higher than that | |
| 21:16 | aindilis2 | Should I write a program that takes the original list of sample records and does a marc record comparison to see if each record was in the sample queue, to prune the export results and then reimplement |
| 21:16 | got it | |
| 21:17 | chris | then load the good ones ino a new 3.2 koha |
| 21:17 | aindilis2 | okay very good thanks chris I owe you |
| 21:17 | has koha been made into a .deb yet? | |
| 21:17 | chris | you dont need to be that fancy, cos biblionumber autoincrements |
| 21:17 | yes | |
| 21:17 | http://debian.koha-community.org/ | |
| 21:17 | aindilis2 | thanks |
| 21:17 | chris | for squeeze |
| 21:17 | aindilis2 | alright well I'm going to get busy |
| 21:17 | again thanks | |
| 21:17 | chris | no problem |
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| 21:39 | aindilis2 | chris: the first biblionumber is one of ours, and I cannot find any sample marc records in the 3.00.00 installer, am I in the clear? |
| 21:40 | biblio.biblionumber | |
| 21:40 | chris | probably |
| 21:41 | aindilis2 | also, to uninstall, everything is in /usr/share/koha? |
| 21:41 | k sounds good | |
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