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| 00:09 | Genji1 | Hiya all. okay, question.... How does login work? how do i insert a page between logging in and the url the logged in state was going to, without disrupting the login process? |
| 00:09 | chris | read C4::Auth and C4::Output |
| 00:10 | that's what id have to do to tell you the answer, so you may as well do it yourself :) | |
| 00:10 | Genji1 | telling opac-main.pl to redirect to a page before output, ends up going back to auth, and not logging in. |
| 00:10 | k. | |
| 00:14 | ah? I redirect after the output is done, in order to set the cookie? | |
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| 00:20 | chris | you do need to set the cookie first yes |
| 00:22 | * brendan_l | joined at the right time - I like setting cookies - - - in my belly |
| 00:41 | sekjal | chris: when doing a keyword search in my system, the query is coming through as kw,wrdl: #searchterm, rather than kw,wrdl,rtrn= #searchterm |
| 00:42 | chris | must be a systempreference we have different then |
| 00:42 | rtrn is right truncation | |
| 00:43 | maybe try turning that on | |
| 00:49 | sekjal | ah, that helps |
| 00:49 | auto truncate, instead of only with * | |
| 00:49 | chris | right |
| 00:49 | so the patch will have to check that syspref, to be safer | |
| 00:50 | sekjal | I think that's easy enough to factor in... especially for such an improvement in relevancy! |
| 00:51 | chris | yeah, it works much better if we actually tell zebra to use it :-) |
| 00:53 | sekjal | so, instead of the one universal line in C4/Search.pm, it should check the QueryAutoTruncate syspref, and decide accordingly.... I wonder if the other Zebra sysprefs factor in... |
| 00:53 | chris | probably would have to test those out |
| 00:54 | sekjal | like QueryWeightFields... |
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| 02:22 | Genji1 | welcome back all. |
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| 02:22 | brendan_l | yeah mass kickage |
| 02:23 | chris | yeah looks like a big network outage for a bit there |
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| 02:26 | Genji1 | Orcon and Xnet were not cut out. |
| 02:26 | Xnet is APE? katipo server is WPE? | |
| 02:26 | chris | WIX |
| 02:27 | Genji1 | ah. hmm... |
| 02:27 | wait.... if connection between exchanges died. .then id get disconnected from the server... unless i am on WIX.. and everyone else was not..? | |
| 02:28 | chris | yep, orcon peers |
| 02:32 | Genji1 | anyway, chris.... you been reading my problem with opac-main and creating an imbetween page? |
| 02:32 | chris | yep, but dont have any time to think about it, im busy doing a migration |
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| 05:20 | awk1 | hi |
| 05:20 | i'm kinda new here... | |
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| 05:55 | CGI190 | Is anyone up this time of morning? |
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| 10:28 | Nur | hi all |
| 10:28 | how are you | |
| 10:29 | I can not install PDF::API2::Simple | |
| 10:30 | when i run capn PDF::API2::Simple | |
| 10:31 | it says BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1. | |
| 10:31 | Warning: No success on command[/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site] | |
| 10:32 | please help me to solve this problem | |
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| 13:14 | jcamins | Nur: if you're still around, try installing Module::Install. |
| 13:15 | On Debian that's libmodule-install-perl, I think. | |
| 13:15 | Does anyone have a demo of the 2.2.x staff client running? | |
| 13:18 | sekjal | jcamins: isn't it Saturday? whatcha doin' hangin' out in #koha? ;) |
| 13:21 | jcamins | I'm putting on my C & P hat. |
| 13:22 | sekjal | cool |
| 13:22 | jcamins | sekjal: is today the day you set up Koha for your own personal library? |
| 13:22 | sekjal | jcamins: i wish. I've got some migrations/upgrades to run while it's quiet |
| 13:23 | jcamins | Ah. Maybe next weekend. :) |
| 13:23 | sekjal | I've got the ISBNs from the first bookshelf scanned (those that have them), so I can try running the batch fetch script I've been working on |
| 13:24 | jcamins | Ted Lawless (from Columbia Law) has a script for batch-fetching records from LC. |
| 13:24 | I'm not sure if he published it anywhere. | |
| 13:25 | sekjal | there was such a script published, not sure if it was Ted's. |
| 13:25 | I found it had a hard time with other targets | |
| 13:25 | I based on off the z3950_search.pl page already in Koha | |
| 13:25 | it consults the targets you have set up, and can do multiple | |
| 13:26 | logic for that is still a little iffy, but the potential is there | |
| 13:26 | jcamins | That would be really useful. |
| 13:26 | sekjal | next step is to automatically add item info to the MARC records found |
| 13:26 | * Braedon | needs to remember to ask his previous employers if he can release the one he developed for them... |
| 13:27 | jcamins | Yeah. I'd love to see a batch fetch script integrated into the staff client... choose a bunch of records and click "overlay from Z39.50," and then look over the results and decide whether or not to commit the changes. |
| 13:28 | Braedon | if you are covering a lot of servers it can take quite a while |
| 13:28 | especially if you have more than 100 isbns | |
| 13:29 | a large number of the good servers kick you after 100 searches | |
| 13:29 | we always had to run over night | |
| 13:29 | jcamins | I think reviewing more than a dozen changes at once would be too much, anyway. |
| 13:30 | Braedon | but we were searching for hundreds(possibly thousands) of isbns over a list of almost 100 servers |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Wow! |
| 13:31 | Braedon: isn't it 1:37 in the morning on Sunday? | |
| 13:31 | Braedon | something like that... |
| 13:31 | jcamins | I used to be coherent that late at night. |
| 13:32 | Braedon | :P |
| 13:32 | it helps to get up at 2pm | |
| 13:32 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, that would do it. |
| 13:33 | * Braedon | had an assignment due 11:59 pm friday, so was not home till 12:30 am saturday |
| 13:38 | is alternately staring at his inbox and IRC client, awaiting further confirmation of the continued existence of the outside world | |
| 13:38 | Braedon | probably time for bed... |
| 13:40 | sekjal | Braedon: perhaps |
| 13:40 | * sekjal | still exists... he thinks |
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| 13:41 | * Braedon | can never shake the thought that sekjal is actually a figment of his imagination |
| 13:41 | * jcamins | is pretty sure he still exists, because otherwise who would be working on articles for his company's website? And wouldn't someone who didn't exist be less tired? |
| 13:42 | * sekjal | may be a figment of his own imagination |
| 13:43 | * Braedon | 's mind `splodes |
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| 14:06 | Genji | Hiya. I think i need to authorize my user, without the use of C4::output... cause by that time, its too late for my needs. can I call checkauth from within my perl pl files? |
| 14:30 | jcamins | Genji: bug 4289 <- is that what you're asking about? |
| 14:30 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacNotPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages |
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| 17:12 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
| 17:12 | sekjal | hi, cait |
| 17:13 | cait | on train now, will be at home at 1:21 am (if nothing happens) *tired* |
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| 17:22 | cait | hmpf |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Hmpf? |
| 17:50 | mac2 | hi all, I'm plan to change my library system to koha. I new to koha. Can someone recommend me which version should I use for now? should I go for 3.0.6 or 3.2 beta? |
| 17:50 | sekjal | mac2: I highly recommend 3.2 beta |
| 17:51 | it's nearly ready to be signed off as pure "3.2", and has TONS of new features over 3.0.6 | |
| 17:51 | jcamins | I agree with sekjal. I'd definitely recommend 3.2 beta. |
| 17:52 | mac2 | but do I need to apply all the 400+ patch? |
| 17:52 | sekjal | mac2: are you thinking of an install from the tarball, or the from the git repo? |
| 17:52 | mac2 | tarball |
| 17:53 | sekjal | the tarball is a fixed snapshot in time; you'd need to download the new one once 3.2 itself was available, and do a 'make upgrade' |
| 17:54 | if you install from git, you have all the committed patches, and can choose what point in time to set the code (either at the '3.2-beta' time, or the latest and greatest patch) | |
| 17:54 | or 3.0.6, even, if you wanted | |
| 17:54 | the whole history of the project is in the git repo | |
| 17:55 | mac2 | ic... when do you think the final version of 3.2 gonna be available? |
| 17:56 | sekjal | "very soon". I'd hope by the time KohaCon rolls around (late Oct). but it's under my control; the Release Manager makes that decision |
| 17:56 | all I can do is keep the bug fixes coming and verify code for quality | |
| 17:56 | whoops | |
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| 18:01 | mac2 | Thanks for your help. I'm sure will pop into IRC more in future since we need to handle this project by ourself + our IT department. |
| 18:01 | Cannot find distributer/verdor in my country | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | I think some vendors provide service internationally. |
| 18:03 | mac2 | that's gonna be too costly for our small library. We are using Winsis at the moment. |
| 18:03 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:03 | That's something else. ;) | |
| 18:04 | mac2 | Hey, the demo by "bywatersolution" is 3.2? |
| 18:04 | sekjal | yes |
| 18:05 | to be exact, version 3.01.00.143, which is a couple commits ahead of the '3.2-beta' tag | |
| 18:05 | * sekjal | is with ByWater Solutions |
| 18:07 | jcamins | The advanced search screen doesn't offer an option for "Macedonian" in the language dropdown. |
| 18:08 | ln:? | |
| 18:08 | Yeah, that worked. | |
| 18:09 | sekjal | code would be 'mac' for that, wouldn't it? |
| 18:09 | at least in MARC21 | |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 18:09 | My question was about the prefix, but I got it right. | |
| 18:09 | sekjal | ah, okay |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Of course, that didn't pull up the record I wanted. |
| 18:09 | But oh well. | |
| 18:10 | Probably the software that book was cataloged in didn't include the option for Macedonian, either. | |
| 18:11 | sekjal | client of ours just noticed that limiting on language is not always intuitively effective: the $h (original text language) gets indexed the same as all the other subfields (which mostly relate to the actual language some or all of the material is in) |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Ooh, that's confusing. |
| 18:11 | sekjal | so you look for something in Arabic, and you'll find things that were originally in Arabic but translated to English |
| 18:11 | not so helpful | |
| 18:12 | basically it's just an oversimplication in the record.abs... | |
| 18:12 | wonder if there is a way to say "not $h" or if I have to specify each good subfield individually... | |
| 18:13 | jcamins | I would guess the latter, but I might be mistaken. |
| 18:14 | sekjal | I know I have to become a Zebra expert... but I don't have to like it! |
| 18:15 | jcamins | Oh, since you're becoming a Zebra expert, maybe you can explain why the following worked: I added 561 and 563 fields to the Note index, but it turns out you don't need the prefix nt: to search those fields, once they were added to the index. |
| 18:15 | Does that mean that *every* index is searched when you do a keyword search? | |
| 18:17 | sekjal | jcamins: yes, every index is searched when you do keyword (as I recall) |
| 18:18 | jcamins | Cool, knowing that will make adding fields to indexes much easier. |
| 18:21 | cait | jcamins: hmpf = tired, late travelling, not sure I will get home today |
| 18:21 | and unsteady internet connection | |
| 18:24 | * jcamins | gives cait a oatmeal chocolate chip cookie bar |
| 18:25 | chris | this should make you smile |
| 18:25 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=72687 | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | *an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie bar |
| 18:26 | sekjal | chris: that's great! |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Aww! What a great picture! |
| 18:28 | chris | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=72729 i like this one too |
| 18:28 | i call it, what happens when you let kids pick the shirt they want to buy | |
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| 18:30 | sekjal | hehe |
| 18:31 | CGI120 | Hi I just started working in a very small library and I am responsible for the acquistion of serials and noting any missed issues. The last employer used an excel sheet. Is there a way to use Koha without much server space to utilize their serial automation functions for tracking my serials? |
| 18:31 | jcamins | They're both so cute. :) |
| 18:32 | (that was in response to chris's photos, not Excel spreadsheets;) | |
| 18:32 | CGI120 | lol |
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| 18:33 | cait1 | jcamins: thx for the cookie :) |
| 18:33 | jcamins | CGI120: if you have a different ILS that you're not considering switching from, I think Koha might be more overhead than necessary. |
| 18:33 | cait1 | and the photos are cute too |
| 18:34 | jcamins | That said, if you have the technology skills in house, there's no reason you couldn't use the serials module. I know nothing about the serials module, so I can't really advise on that. |
| 18:42 | CGI120 | Thank you |
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| 19:52 | sekjal | okay, time to have a bit of weekend. cheers, #koha! |
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| 23:18 | Genji | hey all. im having some trouble. a session param will not stay saved. |
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