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| 01:09 | robin | http://techrights.org/2008/11/[…]ource-xenophobia/ <-- well, at least they're not sponsoring KohaCon :D |
| 01:12 | chris | heh |
| 01:13 | wasabi | yeah, and we think we've got it bad.... |
| 01:14 | chris | well theres a fairly simple solution, dont take their money |
| 01:14 | wasabi | ... and dont give them yours too |
| 01:14 | chris | :) |
| 01:15 | wasabi | the windows-tax... that was genuis! |
| 01:16 | even if the box doesnt run windows, we are going to charge you for that box anyway... | |
| 01:16 | robin | yeah, they've got a good scheme going |
| 01:17 | wasabi | PAID ME!!, PAID ME!! (joe pesci in 'good fellas' ) |
| 01:17 | s/PAID/PAY/g | |
| 01:18 | robin | I was thinking more "Feed me, Seymore" from Little Shop of Horrors. |
| 01:20 | wasabi | nah, def. this one -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ydqjqZ_3oc |
| 01:24 | robin | yeah, that seems appropriate |
| 01:26 | wasabi | actually, im thinking of another scene, were they 'visit' laury? with the hair-piece... |
| 01:27 | robin | I haven't seen that movie in approximately forever. |
| 01:27 | * robin | adds it to my movie rental queue |
| 01:28 | wasabi | wow. some crazy soft-rock metal on nat.radio! |
| 01:28 | robin | I need my loud power metal to get work done today |
| 01:29 | wasabi | http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio[…]onal/adaptive.asx |
| 01:29 | not bad lag... ;) | |
| 01:30 | aaah , queensryche , he he... | |
| 01:30 | robin | Hah, I have a Queensr�che album |
| 01:30 | somewhere | |
| 01:31 | wasabi | haaay, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensrÿche |
| 01:31 | im sure they've upgraded the umlauts! | |
| 01:32 | robin | Ah, Operation Mindcrime is the one I think I have. I haven't listened to it in a while though. |
| 01:32 | wasabi | ... trademark issues, perhaps? |
| 01:32 | robin | As far as I know, it's always been with the � |
| 01:33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]e_album_cover.jpg <-- from 1983 | |
| 01:34 | wasabi | $ whois queens-ryche.com |
| 01:34 | oooh, available!! | |
| 01:35 | robin | so is queensr�che.com :) |
| 01:35 | (or XN--QUEENSRCHE-EFB.COM as it's otherwise known) | |
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| 02:10 | wasabi | telstra have got some weird proxy-caching stuff happening today |
| 02:11 | stuff = problems | |
| 02:12 | robin | telstra has been quite broken in the past few days. I saw a great ping trace from earlier today that showed it being slow, and there was about 50% packet loss last night,. |
| 02:14 | chris | yeah, ive been falling on and off irc |
| 02:14 | yesterday and the day before | |
| 02:16 | robin | they did some "up"grades, I hear. |
| 02:16 | chris | they need a regression status |
| 02:17 | :) | |
| 02:17 | robin | heh |
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| 02:49 | ebegin | hey #koha! |
| 02:49 | (or what left at that time) :) | |
| 02:50 | Anybody knows where I can get a good comparison of ILS features? | |
| 02:56 | chris | not me |
| 02:57 | robin | It's probably pretty tricky to find an unbiased list out there. I haven't seen one, but I haven't looked, either. |
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| 03:10 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:13 | chris | hi Amit |
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| 04:21 | ivanc | good morning #koha |
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| 06:07 | cait | good morning all :) |
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| 06:08 | magnus | g'day #koha |
| 06:13 | cait | morning magnus :) |
| 06:13 | magnus | guten morgen cait |
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| 06:15 | cait | magnus: can you cross your fingers for me? I have to do the online test for my distance study now - the last thing I need to register for the exam in this course |
| 06:15 | magnus | cait: fingers crossed! what course? |
| 06:15 | cait | xml |
| 06:16 | xml, dtd, xml schema, xpath, xquery, xslt and xsl-fo | |
| 06:23 | magnus | sounds like fun! and you still have doubts about being a developer? ;-) |
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| 06:30 | ivanc | good morning #koha |
| 06:32 | magnus | good morning ivanc |
| 06:32 | yay! http://koha-community.org/koha[…]9-september-2010/ | |
| 06:32 | ivanc | good morning magnus |
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| 06:45 | cait | magnus: hmpf. |
| 06:45 | :) | |
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| 06:45 | magnus | hehe |
| 06:45 | cait | magnus: thx - 98% in the multiple choice test - now I can write the mail and register |
| 06:45 | magnus | wow - cool! |
| 06:46 | * magnus | wanders off in search of breakfast |
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| 09:16 | chris | magnus: you about? |
| 09:17 | magnus | chris: yup |
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| 09:17 | cait | magnus++ |
| 09:17 | chris | just read your blog post |
| 09:17 | cait | blog post? :) |
| 09:17 | chris | heres the example i use |
| 09:17 | when ppl say koha is for small libraries | |
| 09:17 | magnus | about big koha libraries? |
| 09:17 | chris | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]brary.pl?RC=38423 |
| 09:18 | stephane1 | francharb: hello françois, as-tu le temps pour discuter deux minutes avec skype, c'est au sujet du guide de param ini |
| 09:18 | francharb | stephane1: 2min |
| 09:19 | stephane1 | francharb: oui c pas long mais plus simle à l'oral |
| 09:19 | magnus | "The collection of the library contains 1416609 volumes. The library circulates 1177015 items per year." Cool! I must remember to include that in my future post about big koha libraries! |
| 09:20 | chris | :) |
| 09:22 | magnus | thanks chris |
| 09:23 | stephane1 | francharb: il a été convenu avec paul et laurence d'insérer dans le guide apres chaque présentation du paramètre un renvoi vers le document "formulaires de paramétrage (tableur avec une feuille par paramètres), j'avais commencé à faire cela sur le document qu'avait fait nicolas (cf sous descartes/gestion projet_stephane_y document reunion orientation suivi projet;et ensuite j'ai appris que tu faisais un doc de param ini; ; l'idé |
| 09:24 | francharb | stephane1: t'es pas sur le chan de biblibre, c'est un chan public |
| 09:24 | passe sur biblibvre | |
| 09:24 | laurence | stephane1 t'es pas sur le bon chan |
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| 09:29 | chris | magnus: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]brary.pl?RC=29869 |
| 09:30 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]brary.pl?RC=29840 | |
| 09:30 | and my favourite | |
| 09:30 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]library.pl?RC=927 | |
| 09:31 | that one only has 7 million volumes | |
| 09:31 | magnus | heh |
| 09:33 | chris | awesome :( |
| 09:33 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]g-for-New-Zealand | |
| 09:34 | magnus | "storm the size of Australia" :-( betterget that sort of thing over and done with before kohacon... |
| 09:34 | chris | Blustery conditions would affect the entire North Island with severe gales likely about Wellington, Wairarapa and the tops of ranges, Mr Duncan said. |
| 09:35 | cait | :( |
| 09:37 | larsw | chris, um, I hope you all will be ok |
| 09:39 | chris | pretty much happens at least once a year, my fence might blow over .. that happened last time, but thats probably about it |
| 09:40 | and i totally forgot to email you | |
| 09:45 | cait | ok, time to go to work |
| 09:45 | bbl :) | |
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| 09:45 | larsw | so you did |
| 09:45 | I have a little time now... what was the question? | |
| 09:46 | chris | ahh, just was trying to work out a rule of thumb for adding to the copyright statement, ie, 3 lines or more .. 10 characters .. :) |
| 09:47 | or any change other than whitespace | |
| 09:47 | larsw | ah, that is a good question for each country's copyright judges :) |
| 09:47 | chris | :) |
| 09:48 | larsw | I would add it whenever applying a patch that can be considered to have required creativity of some sort |
| 09:48 | chris | ah yep, thats a good idea |
| 09:48 | larsw | i.e., just fixing a typo does not warrant a new copyright statement, but adding a new feature does |
| 09:48 | between those there is a large grey area where your guess is as good as mine | |
| 09:50 | chris | *nod* |
| 09:50 | larsw | many people consider it prudent to add one if there's doubt |
| 09:50 | chris | seems the safest course |
| 09:51 | larsw | but that's because we all live in fear of people using assault lawyers in jurisdictions with punitive damages |
| 09:51 | chris | yeah |
| 10:18 | magnus | chris: thanks for providing me with some great examples: http://translate.google.com/tr[…]2Fnode%2F74&tl=en |
| 10:19 | if there are any more good ones, i'll add them | |
| 10:19 | chris | hmm, twitter is doubling up for you |
| 10:19 | one from twitterfeed and one from facebook | |
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| 10:19 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 10:19 | magnus | ah, that would do it |
| 10:19 | chris | hi kf |
| 10:20 | magnus | hi kf |
| 10:59 | * kf | shares some cookies |
| 11:03 | kf | gmcharlt: around? |
| 11:03 | gmcharlt | hi kf |
| 11:03 | kf | hi :) |
| 11:04 | can you say something about 3.2? I saw that Colin send a patch for the blocker bug. | |
| 11:05 | looking at my calendar and wondering if we will be able to update our library before kohacon | |
| 11:05 | gmcharlt | yes - I'll check out Colin's patch later today |
| 11:06 | kf | thx :) |
| 11:06 | * gmcharlt | wanders off to make tea - afk for a bit |
| 11:08 | kf | tea is a good idea |
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| 11:19 | hdl | hi gmcharlt |
| 11:28 | ivanc | hi kf :) |
| 11:29 | kf | hi ivanc and hdl ) |
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| 11:34 | ivanc | kf any advice about RSWK? |
| 11:35 | kf | ivanc: some notes perhaps |
| 11:36 | ivanc: http://www.d-nb.de/standardisi[…]ormate/marc21.htm MARC21 at the DNB | |
| 11:37 | ivanc: here is something about rswk in marc21 http://www.d-nb.de/standardisi[…]wk_in_marc_21.pdf | |
| 11:37 | magnus | and for the rest of us: what is rswk? ;-) |
| 11:38 | kf | ivanc: we use a little program to convert the subject chains in 689 to single subjects, facetted search does not know about 689 - only about the 6xx fields from the marc21 standard |
| 11:38 | Regel für die Schlagwortkatalogisierung | |
| 11:39 | magnus: uh, not easy to explain. something like loc headings - rules for cataloging the content of a work | |
| 11:39 | magnus | i see! |
| 11:39 | kf | magnus: using subject chains (schlagwortketten) and a controlled vocabulary |
| 11:41 | magnus: you can match the different types to 6xx fields, but Koha can't really deal with the chains at the moment. It works much better with single subjects | |
| 11:41 | ivanc | magnus: about a question from yesterday |
| 11:42 | kf: tnks a lot | |
| 11:42 | magnus | schlagwortketten - that sounds painful somehow... |
| 11:42 | ivanc | magnus: true :) |
| 11:44 | kf | ivanc: we have authorities loaded into koha, what you need to know is, that the control number of the authority needs to be in $9 instead of $0, and you need to make koha use the 001 from the authority record as auth_header.authid |
| 11:44 | ivanc: authid is numeric... so we kill the last number of the authority control numbery everywhere (can be X) | |
| 11:44 | if you do all that, it works quite good | |
| 11:44 | you can see it in our catalogs | |
| 11:45 | ivanc: koha can't expand the search to the see and see also fields, so you need to use the specia authority search to find those | |
| 11:45 | ivanc: but if you find one title with your subject you can click on the link, it will search with the control number and find all other titles | |
| 11:45 | ivanc | kf: tnks!!!! |
| 11:46 | kf | hope my explanations were understandable :) |
| 11:46 | ivanc | kf: yet I was only interested if applicable |
| 11:46 | kf | ok... :) |
| 11:47 | yeah, with some limits yes | |
| 11:47 | ivanc | kf: with some limits is better as no :) |
| 11:47 | kf | perhaps check one of our teacher libraries, the marc view is active there and you can see better what we did to the records |
| 11:48 | in fact I would say using single subjects will work, using subject chains will need some work | |
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| 11:49 | kf | ivanc: here is one example with single rswk subjects: https://seminar-stuttgart.bsz-[…]iblionumber=13758 |
| 11:50 | magnus: and you are right, the schlagwortketten are painful | |
| 11:51 | magnus: und using a local field like 689 seems not like a real good solution to me, but at least there is a standard way to do it | |
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| 12:37 | schuster | something going on with workbuffer.org and koha-community.org or just me? |
| 12:39 | kf | schuster: I can reach both |
| 12:39 | schuster | ok thanks |
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| 12:46 | owen | Okay, first patch with a copyright addition sent. |
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| 12:56 | brendan | morning all |
| 12:57 | owen | Hi brendan |
| 12:58 | brendan | heya owen |
| 12:58 | * owen | just learned about this: http://www.libanywhere.com/ |
| 12:58 | heard from a Koha library which is testing it | |
| 12:58 | Braedon | Currently, LibraryAnywhere only supports Google Chrome, Apple Safari, or Mozilla FireFox 3.6 (or higher) |
| 12:58 | * Braedon | is on firefox 4.0 |
| 12:59 | Braedon | is 4.0 not higher than 3.6 anymore? |
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| 13:02 | Topic for #koha is now reminder: send nengard koha newsletter articles/tips/tricket/news/ etc ASAP! | |
| 13:02 | Braedon | most not at all |
| 13:02 | can't work out what it is supposed to be | |
| 13:03 | but whenever i go to it, and sometimes to google.co.nz as well, it has it | |
| 13:03 | it detects i am in NZ, as it has a Go to Google New Zealand link | |
| 13:03 | but gives me it regardless | |
| 13:05 | apparently it is Cherokee http://webapps.stackexchange.c[…]omepage-set-there | |
| 13:06 | which makes absolutely no sense. Why does it think i want Cherokee? | |
| 13:06 | anywho, sorry for the offtopic. been bugging me a while... | |
| 13:09 | OpenUser | Hello, I have the following problem when checking out an item |
| 13:09 | No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2411 | |
| 13:09 | Koha version 3.06 - any ideas? | |
| 13:16 | Braedon | if i remember correctly that was a bug in 3.06 - need to change that $branchcode to $branch |
| 13:16 | or something like that... | |
| 13:16 | it was 9 months ago | |
| 13:16 | anyone else remember it? | |
| 13:17 | OpenUser | oh...maybe I'll check the bug DB.....thanks for the pointer. |
| 13:17 | Braedon | looking at the current git, looks like it has been changed to $branch http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]fcf;hb=HEAD#l2542 |
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| 13:21 | OpenUser | Great.....will I be OK just changing that in the circulation.pm file or do you think there will be other places that need changing? |
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| 13:32 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 13:32 | tcohen | hi all, i'm having some issues with authorities searching |
| 13:32 | specifically "auth_finder.pl: oAuth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Any Bib-1" | |
| 13:33 | when searching "anywhere" | |
| 13:33 | I know this has been an issue several times | |
| 13:34 | but can't find doc on that so it can be fixed (forever) | |
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| 13:42 | OpenUser | My circulation.pm is already set to $branch ?? |
| 13:43 | jcamins | tcohen: Did you try reindexing? |
| 13:44 | tcohen | jcamins: yes |
| 13:44 | several times | |
| 13:45 | jcamins: should it work out.-of-the-box? | |
| 13:46 | i'm on 3.0.6, btw | |
| 13:46 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
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| 13:47 | tcohen | should an 'Any' attribute be defined in authorities/etc/bib1.att ? |
| 14:00 | jcamins | tcohen: sorry about the delay. I'm not sure. We're using 3.1.143. |
| 14:00 | tcohen | jcaminsS: thanks |
| 14:00 | i'll be trying to figure it out | |
| 14:02 | jcamins | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]g/koha/2009-07-19 |
| 14:03 | tcohen: ^^ it's like a virtual gmcharlt suggesting how to fix it :) | |
| 14:04 | tcohen | :-D |
| 14:05 | jcamins | Bug 3072 |
| 14:05 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE |
| 14:06 | jcamins | tcohen: ^^ that might fix it |
| 14:07 | Eventually I'll remember to ping you on the messages I send, rather than right after. | |
| 14:13 | OpenUser | Hey, does anyone know what the holdingbranch column is in the items table? I see the problem I am having is because my holdingbranch and some homebranch are NULL, but before I do an update on the table I would like to know what I'm changing!! |
| 14:13 | sekjal | OpenUser: homebranch is the branchcode of the library that owns the material. Holdingbranch is the branchcode of the library that current has it |
| 14:13 | often, they're the same | |
| 14:13 | unless the item was transferred | |
| 14:14 | OpenUser | Thanks, its a single branch library so there shouldn't be any problems updating the table and setting them both to the branch code?? |
| 14:15 | sekjal | if you've only the one branch, then yes, that makes life much simpler |
| 14:16 | if you change the items table directly, you'll need to resync the MARC before the info will show up properly in the Zebra index, though | |
| 14:17 | ebegin | Quick question: as far as I can tell, there is no table in Koha to keep track of claims, right? |
| 14:17 | sekjal | ebegin: don't know of one |
| 14:18 | OpenUser | Thanks.....can you explain what you mean by Resync the MARC? |
| 14:19 | sekjal | the Zebra index gets all it's information from the MARC record, including item information |
| 14:19 | if you manually change the database values, the MARC fields don't get changed | |
| 14:20 | so you need to run the script /misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl | |
| 14:20 | then reindex | |
| 14:20 | OpenUser | Great....that makes sense....thanks for your help |
| 14:20 | * owen | really thought there was already a bug report for Bug 5220... |
| 14:20 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5220 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, subjects with xslt on only search first part |
| 14:20 | sekjal | OpenUser: glad to be of service! |
| 14:23 | jwagner | owen, there is, but it's misleadingly named. Looking for it now. |
| 14:23 | owen | Thanks jwagner, I was about to ask you. I remembered the bug as having your comments |
| 14:24 | jwagner | Is collum online? He wrote a partial fix for it. |
| 14:25 | kf | ebegin: perhaps in one of the logs, there is letter log for claims |
| 14:26 | ebegin: I am not sure if it's actually doing something and if yes - serials or acq? | |
| 14:26 | ebegin | kf, good catch. I'll check if it's use and if I could use that |
| 14:27 | kf | ebegin: :) |
| 14:27 | ebegin | kf++ |
| 14:27 | (you deserve it) | |
| 14:27 | jwagner | owen, Bug 4276 -- someone marked it as Fixed but it's only partially fixed. |
| 14:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
| 14:27 | kf | thx :) |
| 14:28 | owen | marked as fixed just a few days ago. Timely :) |
| 14:28 | ebegin | kf, it's even better than I thought. The generated message is logged! |
| 14:29 | kf | for which module? |
| 14:29 | jwagner | I haven't had time to go back and work on 4276 any, to try to strip out the parens & other special chars. When I tried earlier, I wasn't able to figure out how to do it. |
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| 14:30 | kf | jwagner: perhaps I can take a look some time - I think perhaps translate() |
| 14:35 | owen | jwagner: It looks like it is indeed working in 3.0.6. I'll compare the XSL files to see if I can see what's going on |
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| 14:43 | collum | jwagner: I'm here. But it doesn't look like you need me anymore. :) |
| 14:44 | owen | The fix in 3.0.6 works for HEAD, although it doesn't give us the same kind of fine-grained links in the normal display (being able to search on separate parts of the chained subject) |
| 14:44 | jwagner | Awwww. We always need you collum! |
| 14:47 | collum | Thanks. I meant it looked like your question was answered. |
| 14:47 | jwagner | Yes, but I couldn't pass up the opening :-) |
| 14:49 | * collum | turns red |
| 14:49 | owen | Oh no, he's furious with you for summoning him without cause! |
| 14:50 | * owen | cowers |
| 14:50 | jwagner | Avaunt! |
| 14:53 | * collum | finds the imprecise English language fascinating. |
| 14:54 | jwagner is now known as jwag_mtg | |
| 14:58 | sekjal | okay, really? DelItem doesn't check to see if the item is currently issued? I just get a FIXME line? |
| 14:58 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 14:58 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.6�C (7:57 AM PDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:00 | sekjal | okay, bug 3597 seems to address this |
| 15:00 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3597 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues |
| 15:03 | owen | Anyone want to sign off on this patch for Bug 4276? |
| 15:03 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms |
| 15:04 | sekjal | owen: I'll pull, test, and sign off |
| 15:05 | owen | I don't have a public repo but I can email a patch |
| 15:05 | sekjal | if you attach it to the bug report, I can wget it onto my server |
| 15:05 | owen | Okay |
| 15:06 | kf | owen: I want to test too - we have a different subject subfield structure I think |
| 15:11 | owen | My patch is now attached to the bug report. It doesn't include the author-handling changes from the original patch |
| 15:16 | kf | ok, will try to test tomorrow |
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| 15:21 | sekjal | owen: I've got your patch onto my system, and will test soon |
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| 15:42 | ebegin | Is there an exim doctor in the room? :) |
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| 16:42 | wizzyrea | very quiet. |
| 16:44 | brendan | booo |
| 16:48 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 16:48 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.3�C (6:52 PM CEST on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:49 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 16:49 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 24.4�C (12:50 PM EDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:50 | cait | owen: 24.4 sounds nice |
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| 16:50 | owen | Looks that way through my window at least |
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| 16:53 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 16:53 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 16.3�C (11:57 AM CDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:55 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 16:55 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.9�C (9:57 AM PDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | what button causes "forced branchtransfer" |
| 17:00 | in the branchtransfers table | |
| 17:00 | "how does that status get assigned" I mean | |
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| 17:12 | jcamins | Does anyone use Koha for creating MARC-AMC records? |
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| 17:16 | jcamins | Or any type of record under archival control. |
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| 17:23 | jcamins | How do I make a hidden text input visible using jquery? |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | .show() |
| 17:24 | I think | |
| 17:24 | instead of .hide() | |
| 17:25 | cait | hm or perhaps change the attribute |
| 17:25 | so it's not hidden but something else | |
| 17:27 | tcohen | jcamins: the problem got resolved when I switched to grs1 for authorities! |
| 17:28 | there's something wrong with 'dom' | |
| 17:28 | it shouldn't be suggested as prefered during install | |
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| 17:34 | jcamins | cait, wizzyrea: for future reference, the second suggestion works: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]m-hidden-to-input |
| 17:35 | cait | cool :) |
| 17:35 | wizzyrea | cool. |
| 17:35 | I'm in a bit of a funk today. | |
| 17:36 | * jcamins | looks for a cookie to offer wizzyrea |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | :) thanks. The cookies always help. :) |
| 17:38 | jcamins | Comments on bug 2567? |
| 17:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2567 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, 008 editor falsely populating Illustrations and Nature of Contents positions |
| 17:39 | jcamins | i.e. is there a reason not to just make those textboxes? |
| 17:40 | cait | cookie? |
| 17:40 | * jcamins | looks around some more, searching for the secret cookie stash that he is sure he should have. |
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| 17:41 | * jwagner | wants cookies too.... |
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| 17:42 | jcamins | Does anyone know how to to filter for more than one name in jQuery? |
| 17:42 | * wizzyrea | has a stash of white chocolate-butterscotch-habanero cookies here somewhere... |
| 17:42 | jcamins | Oooh. |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/[…]okies/Detail.aspx |
| 17:43 | jcamins | That sounds amazing. |
| 17:43 | Thanks! | |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | added the white choc and butterscotch, of course |
| 17:45 | cait | jcamins: what do you want to do? |
| 17:45 | name or id? | |
| 17:45 | * larsw | says yay for non-laxative sugarless cookies |
| 17:46 | jcamins | cait: by name. |
| 17:46 | I want to select both f1821 and f2427. | |
| 17:46 | cait | hmm! |
| 17:46 | you sure those numbers never change? | |
| 17:47 | jcamins | "or" does not work. |
| 17:47 | Yep. | |
| 17:47 | cait | |? |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Nope. Not '||' either. |
| 17:48 | cait | comma separating |
| 17:48 | http://api.jquery.com/multiple-selector/ | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | It thinks the comma is part of the name. :( |
| 17:50 | Wait! I know! Maybe I can use the entire expression. | |
| 17:50 | Yay! | |
| 17:50 | cait++ | |
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| 17:51 | jcamins | $("input[name='f1821'],input[name='f2427']").each(function(){ |
| 17:51 | cait | aah karma :) |
| 17:51 | cool :) | |
| 17:51 | the each is something I have not figured out yet | |
| 17:51 | @karma cait | |
| 17:51 | munin | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
| 17:52 | cait | although I still think we should rename karma to cookie :) |
| 17:52 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:52 | @karma jcamins | |
| 17:52 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 12 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 12. |
| 17:52 | jcamins | 12 cookies! :D |
| 17:52 | cait | @karma kf |
| 17:52 | munin | cait: Karma for "kf" has been increased 26 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 26. |
| 17:53 | cait | hm, have different identities any influence on the calories? |
| 17:53 | jcamins | That depends... is the goal to gain weight or lose weight? ;) |
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| 17:54 | ccurry | Hello, everyone. |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 17:54 | ccurry | Can somebody tell me whether Koha's MySQL database is using InnoDB or MyISAM? |
| 17:55 | jcamins | I think InnoDB, but that's just off the top of my head. |
| 17:55 | You'd be better off checking with someone who knows. | |
| 17:56 | ccurry | I've been googling this, but can't find a way to query the database to find out. |
| 17:56 | jcamins | InnoDB. |
| 17:56 | ccurry | Wait...are you sure now, then? |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:57 | ccurry | OK. Thanks. |
| 17:57 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 17:57 | I just looked in the kohastructure.sql file. | |
| 17:57 | wasabi | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]braker_interview/ |
| 17:58 | interesting... | |
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| 18:00 | Topic for #koha is now reminder: send nengard koha newsletter articles/tips/tricket/news/ etc ASAP! | |
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| 18:04 | wasabi | @tell wasabi moo |
| 18:04 | @tell ccurry mysql> show create table biblio\G | |
| 18:04 | munin | wasabi: Error: I haven't seen ccurry, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 18:05 | owen | I think it's "@later tell <username>" |
| 18:05 | wasabi | @later tell wasabi moo |
| 18:05 | munin | wasabi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:06 | wasabi | @later tell ccurry mysql> show create table biblio\G |
| 18:06 | munin | wasabi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:06 | wasabi | ta owen |
| 18:11 | ivanc | see you #koha |
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| 18:52 | jcamins | Can someone confirm that field 545 is missing from the default MARC framework? |
| 18:53 | owen | It's not in mine |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Bugzilla, here I come! |
| 18:55 | chris | jcamins: you should add the new RDA fields while you are changing the framework :) |
| 18:56 | cait | jcamins: and the fields added for Germany/mab2 |
| 18:56 | chris | or at least make a RDA framework which is the default, but with http://www.loc.gov/marc/RDAinMARC29.html |
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| 18:57 | chris | 336, 337, and 338 are the new ones, to replace 245h |
| 18:58 | jcamins | I think at the moment I'm just adding 545 to my Archives framework. |
| 18:58 | chris | :) |
| 18:58 | jcamins | And I'll submit a bug so that the next person who wonders will see that it's a known issue. |
| 19:00 | Aren't wasabi and cait going to be overhauling the default framework at KohaCon? | |
| 19:00 | cait | can't we make some librarians do it? *hides* |
| 19:01 | jcamins | cait: you _are_ a librarian. :D |
| 19:02 | cait | no, I am a developer |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Okay, that's *really* weird. |
| 19:02 | cait | ask magnus |
| 19:02 | hm you perhaps missed some of our conversations | |
| 19:02 | jcamins | No, I heard. |
| 19:02 | But you're _also_ a librarian. | |
| 19:02 | cait | we decided yesterday we will wear the hat that fits best ;) |
| 19:02 | jcamins | What's really weird is what happens when you create a field 545 in your framework. |
| 19:02 | cait | ok, I am willing to overhaup the marc framework - but not at kohacon |
| 19:02 | it will take like forever | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | If you add the MARC21 field 545, it's automatically populated with the correct subfields. |
| 19:04 | cait | huh |
| 19:04 | hm, a missing line in the sql perhaps? | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | I guess. |
| 19:05 | cait | yep |
| 19:05 | the subfields are in the sql script, but the field is missing | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:06 | cait | http://spedr.com/3wuj4 |
| 19:09 | chris | here comes the rain |
| 19:09 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:09 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.0�C (12:08 PM PDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:09 | jcamins | bUG 5226 |
| 19:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 field 545 missing |
| 19:10 | cait | chris: hope it will not get too bad |
| 19:23 | jcamins | If I have "hidden" set to 0 on a subfield in a framework, shouldn't the textbox for entering that subfield be visible when I create a new record with that framework? |
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| 19:25 | cait | is 0 collapsed or !collapsed? |
| 19:27 | jcamins | The manual says !collapsed |
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| 19:34 | chris_n | ekk |
| 19:34 | cait | hm |
| 19:34 | * chris_n | keeps getting credited with the quick spine label feature when it is kyle hall that should get the credit :-( |
| 19:35 | cait | @karma kyle |
| 19:35 | munin | cait: Karma for "kyle" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15. |
| 19:35 | cait | kyle++ |
| 19:35 | chris_n | kyle++ |
| 19:35 | cait | :) |
| 19:36 | * chris_n | actually has thought about adding a browser export option to the label tool to allow output to the browser and css, etc formatting of the labels |
| 19:36 | chris_n | this might help with the present utf-8 issues in the label tool |
| 19:36 | chris | antisirk: hope you aren't feeling sick again |
| 19:39 | anitsirk even | |
| 19:39 | owen | Ooh, a message from on high |
| 19:39 | rhcl_away | bug 5201 |
| 19:39 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5201 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Patron last name dropped when record edited |
| 19:39 | anitsirk | hi chris. i am not anti anything. ;-) |
| 19:40 | cait | hi anitsirk *waves* |
| 19:40 | rhcl_away | bug 5225 |
| 19:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5225 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Surname emptied when modifying a borrower attributes |
| 19:40 | anitsirk | hello cait |
| 19:41 | cait | mail from john yokley on koha list? |
| 19:42 | sekjal | yup |
| 19:42 | chris | Hmmm do I want to look? |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Um. |
| 19:42 | owen | Not really |
| 19:42 | chris | Or is it just more lies |
| 19:42 | sekjal | apparently, its time for the Koha Software Foundation to be formed |
| 19:42 | jcamins | What? |
| 19:42 | Am I being dense here, or is there not already a foundation? | |
| 19:42 | owen | sekjal: You mean it's time for PTFS to form the Koha Software Foundation |
| 19:42 | sekjal | PTFS/LL has decided this, and invites us contact them if we're interested |
| 19:43 | owen | jcamins: Not already a foundation, no |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 19:44 | What's HLT? | |
| 19:44 | chris | Not for profit trust |
| 19:44 | Wow | |
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| 19:45 | chris | Just as I expexted lies |
| 19:45 | nengard | oh good i'm in time |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Hi nengard. |
| 19:46 | nengard | hiya from KY |
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| 19:47 | chris | Land grab |
| 19:47 | nengard | ? |
| 19:47 | chris | That's all it is |
| 19:47 | reva | hi again, can anyone help with entering serial holdings? What exactly does it do when I check manual history in subscription? |
| 19:48 | owen | I like how he leads with telling us how mean we all are. |
| 19:48 | cait | you can add older issues there |
| 19:48 | chris_n | still the old "take charge" approach |
| 19:48 | *sigh* | |
| 19:48 | cait | manipulate it, but koha will put things in there too (afaik) |
| 19:49 | chris | I hope that no one falls for it |
| 19:49 | reva | cait: you mean like compress holdings (example: v.2 -v.5, 1975-1978)? |
| 19:49 | chris | And validates the approach by joining in |
| 19:50 | cait | your holdings before you started using the serials module |
| 19:50 | I think koha will add entries for new issues | |
| 19:50 | sekjal | I wonder if the KUDOS email to the LL list kicked this off in any way... |
| 19:50 | cait | my coworker is working on the serials module - so I am no expert here |
| 19:51 | chris | Also the committee was not formed to hold assets |
| 19:51 | nengard | sekjal, i don't know that i got that email - about kudos |
| 19:51 | chris | Hlt was voted to hold them, subcomittee formed to ask for them back |
| 19:51 | nengard | just fyi |
| 19:52 | * chris_n | thinks maybe a answer of resounding silence might be the most effective response |
| 19:52 | chris_n | s/a/an/ |
| 19:52 | reva | ok, I will try it. I also have questions on advance serial patterns. For example, I am not sure how to enter the Yr {Z} various rows (such as inner count ,set back) ; the example in the FAQ is too cryptic about these two rows. |
| 19:52 | chris | Yeah |
| 19:53 | I could fisk it, almost every point is wrong | |
| 19:53 | reva | cait: may be your coworker can help me? |
| 19:53 | owen | Too late chris_n, I've already responded. |
| 19:53 | chris | And add that they still are pursuing trademarks |
| 19:53 | nengard | i think the problem is thinking that Koha is a US thing - it's a worldwide thing |
| 19:53 | cait | reva: she is not on irc, but I can ask her |
| 19:53 | chris | And attempted to blackmail us |
| 19:53 | chris_n | nengard: I tend to agree |
| 19:53 | cait | perhaps next week - she is not working full time |
| 19:53 | nengard | and the foundation that is formed - when it's formed needs to be just that |
| 19:53 | international | |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | perhaps someone should send him mat mullenweg's post re: the wp trademark :P |
| 19:54 | nengard | chris_n this is certainly something we (americans) do in all walks of life, but it's not hard really to learn that we're not the center of the universe |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea I'm sure they're watching twitter - quietly - but watching - and saw us all post that | |
| 19:55 | reva | Please do; as I am having problems filling in the patterns. Also, I thought I could avoid this subscription business altogether and manually enter an item record for each issue received under the same bib record. But it does not show 952 $h field at all when I do that! |
| 19:55 | chris | My stop |
| 19:55 | * chris_n | heads home |
| 19:55 | reva | cait: Thanks. I always wait with you till next week, right?:) |
| 19:55 | nengard | also i think someone needs to share my chapter on community and participation in communities from my open source book - what was defined in that email does not equal participation |
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| 19:58 | reva | sorry cait: I got kicked out. Thanks, I will wait for you to find out. But I was just saying: when I manually create item records for each issue received (thus bypassing subscription creation), on the OPAC under normal view it does not show the 952 $h field (which is serial enumerationa dn chronolgy). |
| 19:59 | cait | reva: I m at home now - can't do something |
| 20:00 | about your problem, and too tired to start testing now. | |
| 20:00 | perhaps you can make some example serials, add some issues and take a look how the manual history changes. | |
| 20:01 | reva: w hich version are u using? | |
| 20:01 | we use this field and it shows in our opac | |
| 20:01 | imported records, without serals | |
| 20:03 | reva: an example: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]biblionumber=5970 | |
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| 20:06 | reva | cait: Is your leader check for serials and not monograph? |
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| 20:06 | cait | sorry, cant login to this installation from home |
| 20:06 | but I think the leader is for serials, not sure this should really make a difference here | |
| 20:08 | chris | back |
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| 20:08 | reva | cait: I also think that should not make a difference. But I notice you do not show any MARC view in your OPAC. Would it help me to look at the example in MARC view or the 950s are not shown in the MARC view since they are locally defined? |
| 20:09 | cait | reva: we are not showing it and I can't login now to change the settings |
| 20:10 | can not tell you before tomorrow - sorry. perhaps you can try to change the header or someone else can help. | |
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| 20:11 | reva | cait: I will wait; I will summarize my issues: 952 $h does not display for under normal view. (It shows when I look at the expanded MARC view). And the advance serial predication pattern poses issues when I enter year Yr {Z}. |
| 20:12 | cait | reva: you can download the example as marc from the catalog, should give you all fields |
| 20:13 | reva | cait: I only see Print but no button for saving it in any format. |
| 20:14 | cait: it is Koha 3.0.6 | |
| 20:14 | cait | in our installation |
| 20:14 | the example I showed you, you can download it there to see the mark fields | |
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| 20:16 | reva | cait: I do not see a download button. I can catch you tomorrow as they are closing the office for the day. |
| 20:17 | Bye for the evening. Thanks cait: | |
| 20:17 | cait | bye reva |
| 20:20 | reva | caiI see the way to save the MARC format. Again bye for the evening.:) |
| 20:21 | Oops that was for cait: | |
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| 20:26 | richard | hi |
| 20:26 | brendan | hi richard |
| 20:26 | richard | hi brendan |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 20:27 | chris | hi richard |
| 20:27 | jcamins | This is not at all an important question, but what is the significance of the Koha logo? |
| 20:27 | I mean, the real Koha logo. | |
| 20:28 | larsw | hellooo, NZ |
| 20:28 | and everyone else | |
| 20:28 | cait | jcamins: you mean what it shows? there is a nice article about htat |
| 20:28 | chris | oh yeah they changed the logo too |
| 20:29 | i forgot about that | |
| 20:29 | jcamins | cait: ah, thanks. Found it. |
| 20:30 | chris: sorry, I didn't mean to raise more annoyance. | |
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| 20:31 | cait | I have a fern on my desk in the office :) |
| 20:32 | a present from a coworker, seeing it grows remember me of the logo all the time | |
| 20:32 | seeing it growing remembers me of the logo... | |
| 20:32 | tomascohe | is it safe to change from 'dom' to 'grs1' for auth's indexes in zebra? |
| 20:32 | tomascohe is now known as tcohen | |
| 20:33 | tcohen | I've just changed dom references to grs1 in koha-conf.xml |
| 20:33 | and reindexed | |
| 20:34 | users reported that newly created auths cannot be linked | |
| 20:34 | due to fatal error in koha | |
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| 20:39 | briceSanc | hello, Do you know how can i count a sql row ? |
| 20:40 | sekjal | goodnight, #koha! |
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| 20:40 | briceSanc | is it $dbh->rows ? |
| 20:40 | ebegin | briceSanc, not $dbh, but your query (sth?) |
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| 20:41 | briceSanc | of course |
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| 20:42 | ebegin | briceSanc, do you have problem with the count function? |
| 20:42 | briceSanc | and when there is no results (no rows), he must return '0' or '-1' |
| 20:42 | yes | |
| 20:42 | ebegin | should be 0 |
| 20:43 | you probably know that it has to be call after your execute (just in case) | |
| 20:43 | briceSanc | yes |
| 20:43 | ebegin | briceSanc, what is your problem? |
| 20:44 | briceSanc | i want to check if there is records or not |
| 20:44 | with an if/elsif/else< | |
| 20:44 | condition | |
| 20:44 | but the condition doesnt works | |
| 20:45 | ebegin | have you checked your log file? maybe there is a problem with your query? |
| 20:45 | briceSanc | no the query is good |
| 20:46 | because my "else" works | |
| 20:46 | ebegin | do you want to paste your code in pastebin.ca or any other site? |
| 20:50 | briceSanc | i'm learning Perl and with your answer i know that the problem is not the "->rows" but certainely my condition. I'm not allowed to paste my code, i'm sorry, i need to ask my project manager before and he isnt here |
| 20:50 | ebegin | no problem. |
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| 20:51 | chris | hello hdl |
| 20:51 | hdl | hi chris |
| 20:51 | how are you ? | |
| 20:52 | chris | a little frustrated and sad, but otherwise ok |
| 20:52 | ebegin | briceSanc, it's ->rows(), not ->rows |
| 20:59 | ivanc | good night #koha |
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| 21:05 | briceSanc | ebegin, Hahahaha my problem was $var == 'test' insted of $var eq 'test' |
| 21:06 | and row() ;0 | |
| 21:06 | ebegin | I did this errors tons of time too :) Congrats! |
| 21:06 | briceSanc | thks for your help |
| 21:06 | i go home | |
| 21:06 | bye | |
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| 21:33 | cait | good night all |
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| 21:33 | chris | morning jo |
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| 21:38 | wizzyrea | hi jo |
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| 21:44 | brendan | ok weather check time - |
| 21:44 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 21:44 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.9�C (2:44 PM PDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66047 |
| 21:44 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.0�C (4:47 PM CDT on September 15, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect until midnight CDT tonight... |
| 21:48 | brendan | flash flood you always get the best (errr... worst) weather warnings |
| 21:50 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
| 21:50 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (9:00 AM NZST on September 16, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
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| 21:58 | nengard | chris_n++ |
| 21:59 | chris | oh snap! |
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