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| 00:07 | brendan left #koha | |
| 00:08 | wajasu | it just sits there. |
| 00:09 | i looked at what and where the files are files are installed and they seem fine. | |
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| 00:10 | wajasu | however the PerlModules.pm detects its presence isn't working for some reason. maybe because I am running perl 5.12? |
| 00:10 | the version matches 1.72 | |
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| 00:12 | wajasu | koha_perl_deps.pl reports its current vesion as 0 |
| 00:13 | my only other module is HTTP:OAI which has a conflict, but I've usually commented that out of the makefile. can't do that with Date::ICal | |
| 00:13 | i'll research | |
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| 00:17 | robin | yeah, it sounds like Perl itself can see it fine, so not sure what koha_perl_deps.pl is upset about |
| 00:18 | chris | sounds like the version number |
| 00:18 | it checks for a version, not just the existence of it | |
| 00:19 | wajasu | there is some new module version support in this version of perl. maybe there is something different about Date::ICal compared the the other modules. |
| 00:19 | chris | it wants 1.72 as a minimum |
| 00:20 | maybe it doenst export its version correctly | |
| 00:20 | wajasu | i'm looking into its code right now to see, |
| 00:22 | chris | perl -MDate::ICal -e 'print $MODULE::VERSION'; |
| 00:22 | wajasu | Can't locate Date/Leapyear.pm ... |
| 00:23 | let me install that | |
| 00:24 | i installed that and now it works | |
| 00:24 | :) | |
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| 00:47 | wajasu | when i build a package for HTTP::OAI, and then try to install with my pacman package manager, i have a conflict. (i had this in 3.0.6 as well). It says its want to overwrite a file that belongs to another package (i.e. XML::SAX::Parser related). So I just comment HTTP::OUI out inthe makefile. |
| 00:49 | the file that is overwritten is different and I didn't want to overwrite any core xml parsing implementation. | |
| 00:50 | sekjal | just felt like venting. sorry all |
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| 01:27 | wasabi | 'item-level_itypes' syspef should be set ON as a default, i reckon.. |
| 01:28 | and then all that bibitem-level-itypes cruffy code needs to be ripped out | |
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| 03:07 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:08 | chris | hi Amit |
| 03:13 | robin | ...did sekjal just apologise for not venting? |
| 03:13 | chris | heh |
| 03:13 | robin | (well, by just, I mean a few hours ago) |
| 03:14 | chris | yeah, he was at the airport trying to vent about being trapped on the tarmac missing his connection, but the 3g was crap too and dropped his message |
| 03:14 | robin | ah right |
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| 03:16 | Amit | heya brendan |
| 03:17 | brendan | hey amit |
| 03:17 | chris | hi brendan |
| 03:17 | brendan | heya chris |
| 03:17 | almost beer time for chris | |
| 03:17 | chris | yup half an hour or so |
| 03:22 | darling | beer time! |
| 03:22 | oh, no | |
| 03:22 | son | |
| 03:22 | soon | |
| 03:25 | brendan | I like that - oh, no son! |
| 03:26 | chris | heh |
| 03:26 | robin | oh it is almost that time again. |
| 03:27 | chilts | like you didn't know :-p |
| 03:29 | chris | youve probably been drinking all day chilts |
| 03:30 | darling | yeah, now that he's retired |
| 03:30 | robin | chilts: you lush! :) |
| 03:31 | darling | he can take it easy and go sit on the beach and catch paua and sip gin |
| 03:31 | and etc | |
| 03:31 | robin | sip paua, catch gin. |
| 03:31 | darling | ick |
| 03:32 | chris | if he's sitting on beach to catch paua ... he's doing it wrong :-) |
| 03:32 | darling | diving robot |
| 03:32 | robin | this is also true :) |
| 03:32 | darling | pruby can make us one |
| 03:32 | chilts | if only I could hit the beach :) |
| 03:33 | though it does feel good even if I'm not there | |
| 03:33 | darling | so -- any fisheries regs about catching paua by robot? |
| 03:35 | robin | may be he could be running around chasing toheroa instead (or however |
| 03:35 | you spell that) | |
| 03:35 | chris | you have to freedive for them |
| 03:36 | not even allowed tanks | |
| 03:36 | so i suspect not robots either | |
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| 03:40 | darling | toheroa? what's that? is this 'learn rude Māori words day'? |
| 03:41 | robin | darling: ah, you would never have gone digging for them (and always failing to catch them) as a kid, given you're from some remote country. |
| 03:42 | darling | http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/toheroa/1 |
| 03:42 | chris | thats them |
| 03:42 | darling | ah, cool |
| 03:42 | being this close to an ocean at all kind of freaks me out | |
| 03:43 | chris | people went mental in the 50's and 60's |
| 03:43 | robin | darling: did you know there could be an earthquake at any moment and you could sink into the sea :D |
| 03:43 | chris | and tried to eat them all |
| 03:43 | darling | robin, can't fool me, earthquakes go up, not down |
| 03:43 | robin | yeah, there was one day a year if there were enough you could try to catch them (in Invercargill, anyway) |
| 03:44 | chris | i blame this article |
| 03:44 | http://www.nzetc.org/tm/schola[…]-t1-body-d18.html | |
| 03:44 | darling | hmm, maybe we add to Levin trip |
| 03:44 | chris | blasted railways magazine |
| 03:45 | theres a chance we may get a hangi on the levin trip | |
| 03:45 | robin | darling: the odds of being allowed to get toheroa are pretty low |
| 03:45 | they're very protected | |
| 03:45 | chris | yeah, its like one or 2 days a year |
| 03:46 | and sometimes not even that | |
| 03:46 | darling | dang, now I'm hungry |
| 03:46 | we could go catch mussels | |
| 03:46 | chris | yeah they move pretty slow |
| 03:46 | darling | they're very slow moving and ... |
| 03:46 | chris | we used to dig up pipi |
| 03:46 | darling | I think the limit it 2 tons/person/day |
| 03:47 | chris | you get a sheet of roofing iron |
| 03:47 | darling | are pipi those little white flattish ones? |
| 03:47 | chris | and leave it out in the sun, then you can dig up pipi and chuck them on there, and the heat opens them |
| 03:47 | cockels | |
| 03:47 | darling | cool! |
| 03:48 | chris | http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/[…]on/L+-+R/Pipi.htm |
| 03:48 | you can get 150 of them :) | |
| 03:48 | only allowed 50 mussel | |
| 03:48 | darling | 50's plenty |
| 03:48 | robin | I reckon I'd get bored after 50. |
| 03:48 | chris | tuatua are great too |
| 03:49 | robin | tuatara look like terrible eating |
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| 03:50 | chris | http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/[…]Shortfin+Eels.htm |
| 03:50 | and im the only person at catalyst who can take eels from Lake Forsyth | |
| 03:50 | so take that! | |
| 03:50 | :) | |
| 03:51 | robin | I don't even know where that lake is |
| 03:51 | * chris | either |
| 03:51 | chris | but now i have to find out |
| 03:51 | robin | heh |
| 03:51 | darling | mmm, yeah, eels just don't sound tasty tho |
| 03:51 | chris | eel is great |
| 03:51 | specially smoked | |
| 03:51 | robin | I used to go eeling around southland |
| 03:51 | darling | are the grocery store eels any good? |
| 03:52 | robin | No idea |
| 03:52 | chris | i never paid for eel (well except for sushi) |
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| 03:52 | chris | ahhh its on banks peninsula |
| 03:53 | on the way to akaroa | |
| 03:53 | chilts | beer! |
| 03:53 | chris | with eel! |
| 03:53 | * chilts | wonders what the Catalystas are doing |
| 03:53 | darling | oh crap, it's 4.01 |
| 03:53 | er 3 | |
| 03:53 | chilts | heh |
| 03:54 | * chris | waits for the email |
| 04:04 | darling | beermail! |
| 04:04 | chilts | lol |
| 04:05 | chris | yay! |
| 04:06 | darling | i want some eels now |
| 04:13 | wajasu | anyone tried "balut" in the philippines? |
| 04:14 | robin | wajasu: everyone is going for beer now :) |
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| 04:22 | wajasu | i'm just trying to reconcile the problem where HTTP::OAI depends on and requires XML::SAX:Base, but that would overwrite files from XML::SAX. Specifically, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Base.pm, /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/XML/SAX/Exception.pm, /usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Base.3pm.gz, and usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Exception.3pm.gz. Are folks that use CPAN just overwriting with... |
| 04:22 | ...the latest? | |
| 04:23 | Which Base.pm and Exception.pm is the better one? | |
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| 05:26 | wajasu | if i have an existing 3.0.6 koha and i want to migrate to 3.2, must I run an Makefile driven update? OR can I export data and reimport it into a fresh 3.2 koha installation? |
| 05:42 | wasabi | wajasu: dump the db, then load it into yr 3.2 |
| 05:43 | you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then | |
| 06:19 | wajasu | ahhh. |
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| 06:22 | wajasu | so create a new koha db. load the dumped 3.0.6, then hit the web gui, and it'll see my version is older than my code, and run the update scripts. Will try that. |
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| 06:37 | wajasu | ok. since i'm doing a new install, maybe I should try getting the zebra index/server scripts running as koha instead of root. should I just chown -R g+w the /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb directories and chgrp -R koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/lock/koha/zebradb as well? |
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| 06:59 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:00 | magnus | good morning kf & #koha |
| 07:00 | kf | hi magnus |
| 07:00 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 07:00 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9�C (9:10 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:01 | magnus | @wunder bodo |
| 07:01 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:01 | magnus | not so bad... |
| 07:05 | * magnus | wonders if this can/will benefit koha in some way "Developer collaboration leads to implementation of NCIP 2.0: OCLC to contribute NCIP 2.0 code to XC NCIP toolkit http://bit.ly/a6qpCO" |
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| 07:08 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 07:08 | :) | |
| 07:08 | magnus: wondered about that myself yesterday :) | |
| 07:09 | magnus | sounds like the kind of thing chris would know... |
| 07:20 | paul_p | hi kf & magnus |
| 07:20 | it rained tonight in Marseille. Very good news... | |
| 07:20 | magnus | hiya paul_p |
| 07:23 | kf | paul_p: we have sun today - very good news here, had a lot of rain recently |
| 07:28 | paul_p: still afraid of us librarians? :) | |
| 07:31 | wajasu | i created my db and have mysql/apache setup for UTF8. if my librarian edited the z3950 servers to return marc-8, instead of utf8, does that mean my web biblios(details) will show diacritics to the side of letters and not above? |
| 07:34 | kf | I use one of the ISO codes for one of our Z3950 servers. Koha translates it to utf8 with correct display of diacritics. |
| 07:34 | not sure for marc-8, but you can test it easily | |
| 07:56 | wajasu | ok. i see some authors: in the detail with diacritics beside the letter. (Small font) When I hover over the author and it displays in a bigger font, the diacritics show above correctly. maybe its a font issue, or that text is needs some hint for rendering better. |
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| 11:47 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:47 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.7�C (1:57 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:50 | jwagner | @wunder 20817 |
| 11:50 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 19.7�C (7:59 AM EDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:00 | magnus | @wunder bodo |
| 12:00 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0�C (1:50 PM CEST on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:08 | owen | Hi #koha |
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| 12:43 | ebegin | good morning all! |
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| 12:53 | druthb | howdy, #koha! :D |
| 12:54 | kf | hi druthb |
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| 12:59 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:08 | nengard | owen++ for helping me with a complicated JQuery |
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| 13:35 | zen | i am new to koha and am doing koha marc bulk import it works fine but it display multilple copies of the same book at once |
| 13:36 | owen | zen: Have you reindexed? |
| 13:37 | zen | no i didn't |
| 13:37 | owen | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]/faq/searching/#5 |
| 13:42 | zen | owe what i mean is for example with the title bible if i have 6 copies when i search it it display 6 copies separately like they are different books instead of display one bible book with 6 copies |
| 13:43 | wizzyrea | Oh, are you importing one bib for each copy? |
| 13:43 | probably what you need to do is put your copy information in the several 952 fields of one bib record using MARCEdit | |
| 13:43 | zen | no i mporting all copies |
| 13:44 | * wizzyrea | tries to find an example record |
| 13:44 | wizzyrea | and good morning |
| 13:45 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "marc record with multiple items" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/49 |
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| 13:46 | wizzyrea | that one has one title, and 40-something copies |
| 13:47 | zen: make sense? | |
| 13:48 | here's the corresponding OPAC entry for that book | |
| 13:48 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]iblionumber=47833 | |
| 13:48 | zen | sorry i cant understand it |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | hmm. Ok. I think I hear you saying that when you search for a title, you get 6 individual results, each with one copy |
| 13:49 | is that right? | |
| 13:50 | zen | you are right. |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | and what you want to see is one result, with 6 copies |
| 13:50 | zen | exactly that is my question |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 13:50 | so | |
| 13:50 | taking this example of twilight | |
| 13:51 | This is the single result for this particular title, think of it like a folder. Written on the folder is all of the MARC information up to the 900's | |
| 13:52 | each slip of paper we put in the folder is a copy, and each paper has a set of 952's | |
| 13:52 | when you set up your records for import | |
| 13:53 | you need to set up each folder, then add the papers to it (it's an analogy, I don't know how else to explain it) | |
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| 13:57 | briceSanc | hello all ! |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | good morning |
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| 14:04 | zen | wizzyrea when i see marc view of twlight till 900's it is one 952 field have alot |
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| 14:05 | zen | so what i have done is for every record there is one 952 field |
| 14:05 | kf | wizzyrea: I like your analogy :) |
| 14:06 | zen: one record, multiple 952 fields :) | |
| 14:06 | zen | thank you kf |
| 14:06 | kf | there is another way, but not sure I can explain it |
| 14:07 | hm. too complicated. | |
| 14:08 | zen | just tell me i can discuss about it with other my staff members. |
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| 14:14 | zen | wizzyrea: thank you let me try it and i'll back with the result. |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | ok, good luck |
| 14:14 | :) | |
| 14:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea++ # great analogy |
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| 14:33 | jcamins | Does anyone use Koha on their iPhone or Android phone, or the like? |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | I have, it seems to work fine |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Nifty! |
| 14:33 | brendan | jcamins - feeling the need to design a iPhone app? |
| 14:34 | that would be pretty cool | |
| 14:34 | I think mason was thinking about doing that at one point - but I don't know how far he got | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | brendan: not at all, but if I'm going to need to find someone to do it, I'd like to know in advance. ;) |
| 14:35 | brendan | mason for now I think he equals wasabi |
| 14:35 | @seen wasabi | |
| 14:35 | munin | brendan: wasabi was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 51 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <wasabi> you will be asked via the web-gui to update your db to the 3.2 structure then |
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| 14:36 | sekjal | I'm excited about the possibility of a mobile interface for Koha that'll work on iPhone, Android, PalmOS, etc. |
| 14:36 | the OPAC would be easier; I'd want to get access to the device's camera for barcode scanning for the staff client | |
| 14:36 | make inventory so much easier | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | sekjal: that would be awesome! |
| 14:36 | I was just thinking of the OPAC, but, wow! | |
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| 14:37 | * jcamins | may need to get a smartphone, if it can do *that* |
| 14:37 | sekjal | jcamins: there was a Javascript library I heard about last Code4Lib that aims to do that |
| 14:37 | that would really help make it cross-platform | |
| 14:38 | dagentoob | I am trying to print labels and the outline box isn't printing. Any ideas |
| 14:38 | ?? | |
| 14:38 | sekjal | putting a Koha app in Apple's walled garden seems so... inconsistent |
| 14:38 | dagentoob | koha on Android would be AWESOME |
| 14:42 | owen | making Koha an iOS app would put it in Apple's walled garden. Making it a mobile app would make it open to everyone. |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ agreed |
| 14:46 | I would love to see the bit with the camera though | |
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| 14:47 | wizzyrea | I did a preso earlier this month that included QR codes as a way to tie your library to digital spaces, and it would be SO COOL if you could use any of your koha barcodes with your smartphon |
| 14:47 | e | |
| 14:47 | sekjal | one of my dream developments for my personal Koha install is to get it to work with QR codes |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | jcamins: offtopic: we made the curry cookies again, but accidentally got curry powder with garlic (!) and cumin (!) |
| 14:50 | we thought they would suck | |
| 14:51 | but we added extra pumpkin pie spice and you know what, they smell garlicky, but they taste right fine. | |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Oooh, I like the idea of pumpkin pie spice. |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | my kid has half of one every morning as his before daycare snack |
| 14:52 | (he's super crabby when he's hungry, as we all are) | |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Awww. I've started a trend. :D |
| 14:54 | * jwagner | proposes a new Koha listserv for recipes |
| 14:54 | jwagner | Or a wiki section |
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| 14:56 | owen | Could someone check their HEAD installation and tell me wither the "category" dropdown is populated on the patron search screen? |
| 14:57 | jwagner | It says "Any" |
| 14:57 | sekjal | owen: no |
| 14:58 | owen | Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was just me |
| 14:58 | Yay, new bug! | |
| 14:58 | :P | |
| 14:58 | sekjal | something about renamed categoryloops? |
| 14:58 | kf | owen: I wrote a patch for that |
| 14:58 | owen | Oh yeah, kf? There's already a bug for it? |
| 14:58 | kf | no new bug, an old one, I send it as follow up to one of your bugs :) |
| 14:58 | let me check | |
| 14:59 | owen | Ah right, I remember that. You fixed something I broke. |
| 14:59 | * owen | git blames himself again |
| 14:59 | kf | no |
| 14:59 | you did not really break it I think, it was mixed all over | |
| 14:59 | just missed one | |
| 15:00 | patch: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/012393.html | |
| 15:00 | you can test it and sign-off on it - that will make chris happy :) | |
| 15:01 | owen | I missed the lesson on that. |
| 15:02 | kf | it's somewhere in the chat logs but not sure I can find it... and forgot to write it down |
| 15:02 | ah | |
| 15:02 | it happens automatically | |
| 15:02 | if you apply the patch mit option -s | |
| 15:02 | it writes something in the commit message | |
| 15:02 | and you can resend the patch | |
| 15:04 | sekjal | kf was just so kind as to do that with a patch I submitted |
| 15:04 | owen | Hm... but you have to use git am for that, you can't use git apply? |
| 15:05 | * owen | doesn't have patches in a mailbox |
| 15:05 | kf | sekjal: chris made me do it |
| 15:05 | I always use git apply | |
| 15:06 | ah, no I don't | |
| 15:06 | I copy the command from my cheat sheet (the heading is git apply...) | |
| 15:06 | git am -s -3 -i -u name_of_patch | |
| 15:06 | I download them from bugzilla as owen told me | |
| 15:06 | ;) | |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | I do git apply too, which seems to work better than git am |
| 15:07 | owen | How so wizzyrea ? |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | dunno I don't think git am has worked a single time when I've tried it |
| 15:07 | * wizzyrea | is relying on faulty human memory |
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| 15:12 | * owen | thinks "Puny human memory" in Morvo's voice |
| 15:13 | * kf | can't follow |
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| 15:14 | zen | i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNODATEOFPUBAUTHORTITLEEDITIONPLACEPUBLISHERISBNbranch libraryiteam type shelvinglocation "063168,063169""338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB"2007Robertson Christopher J.International business2nd Ed.DubuqueMcGraw0073527815"BPL,BPL""BK,BK""GEN,GEN" |
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| 15:19 | zen | wizzyrea:i have mapped like this: but there is no change BARCODE CALLNO DATEOFPUBlication AUTHOR TITLE EDITION PLACE PUBLISHER ISBN branchlibrary itemtype shelvinglocation "063168,063169" "338.88 ROB,338.88 ROB" 2007 Robertson Christopher J. International business 2nd Ed. Dubuque McGraw 0073527815 "BPL,BPL" "BK,BK" "GEN,GEN" |
| 15:19 | please help | |
| 15:20 | owen | kf: You apply the patch using "git am...", test, and then send the patch in as if it was your own? |
| 15:21 | kf | owen: that's what chris told me |
| 15:21 | hm wait, perhaps I am missing a step, there was a git format-patch involved | |
| 15:21 | owen | Yeah |
| 15:22 | kf | let me check the log |
| 15:22 | owen | No, I think that's it |
| 15:23 | zen | can u help me how to map record using marcedit? |
| 15:25 | helo! | |
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| 15:25 | owen | Please be patient zen, someone will help if they can. If they can't, you can try again later. |
| 15:25 | kf | owen: the irc log is here: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-08-18#i_486541 |
| 15:26 | ah cool :) | |
| 15:27 | ok, weekend time :) | |
| 15:27 | have a nice weekend everyone! | |
| 15:27 | brendan | bye kf |
| 15:28 | kf | bye brendan |
| 15:28 | owen | Bye kf, thanks for your help |
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| 15:28 | kf | owen: no worries :) |
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| 16:17 | wizzyrea | owen++ for that latest patch you sent |
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| 16:23 | owen | If no one smart enough will fix a bug, sometimes you have to settle. |
| 16:24 | wizzyrea | pff it's hardly settling |
| 16:24 | I kinda did the same yesterday | |
| 16:25 | with the locations addition I made... I added the home location, but it's not pretty | |
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| 16:38 | cait | hi again #koha |
| 16:39 | jcamins | Hi cait |
| 16:39 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
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| 16:54 | sekjal | just sent an update patch to the VOKAL icon set |
| 16:54 | cait | more icons? :) |
| 16:54 | sekjal | yes |
| 16:54 | including Puzzles/Games, Bluray and ILL items | |
| 16:54 | cait | cool! |
| 16:55 | sekjal | and smaller versions of othem all |
| 17:00 | http://i37.tinypic.com/34f0d1j.jpg | |
| 17:03 | cait | I like the smaller icons |
| 17:03 | and our teacher's libraries have games :) | |
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| 17:54 | briceSanc | Hello |
| 17:55 | I make a script to import University Laval authorities and i want to ask the user in the command line, do you know where i can find an exemple in KOHA ? | |
| 17:56 | ebegin | briceSanc, you want to ask the path of the file? |
| 17:56 | briceSanc | ebegin, no i want to ask "Are you sure you want to delete all authorities" |
| 17:58 | ebegin | We do ask for user input in the installer script. Makefile.pl |
| 18:04 | briceSanc | thks |
| 18:08 | owen | Anyone else ever seen a patron with 70+ checkouts crash Firefox? |
| 18:08 | That's what was just reported to me | |
| 18:11 | * owen | does find that Firefox doesn't like loading a patron with 200 checkouts |
| 18:12 | jwagner | Nobody likes loading patrons with 200 checkouts :-( |
| 18:13 | owen | Chrome is tickled pink to do it. Firefox 3.5 wants to cancel execution of javascript on the page |
| 18:14 | jwagner | owen, question for you -- you did a writeup a while back on multiURL OPACs. When you're talking about having apache point to the separate stylesheets, does that stylesheet have to be a full copy of opac.css, or just the equiv of the opaccolorstylesheet one? |
| 18:14 | I can't remember & don't seem to have that in my notes. | |
| 18:14 | owen | The opaccolorstylesheet if I recall correctly |
| 18:14 | schuster has that setup, you could confirm with him | |
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| 18:14 | jwagner | That's what I was hoping. We'll find out :-) |
| 18:15 | owen | cfouts_ may have even written that, you could ask him :) |
| 18:15 | jwagner | He's kinda busy today..... |
| 18:16 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 18:16 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.5�C (11:20 AM PDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:16 | jwagner | But I'll check some of the other setups. I was just merrily working along on a big project & suddenly had a major qualm about the css settings I was keeping track of. Thanks. |
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| 18:21 | cfouts | what did I write? |
| 18:21 | owen | cfouts: multiopac css handling? |
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| 18:45 | druthb | cfouts -es for everyone |
| 18:45 | ! | |
| 18:46 | cait | ? |
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| 18:52 | druthb | There were two cfouts-es in here for a few minutes. Heaven knows we need a couple of clones of him... |
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| 18:56 | cait | ah :) |
| 18:57 | bye all | |
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| 19:03 | wizzyrea | helpful or not helpful: a set of scenarios for testing holds published on the wiki |
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| 19:05 | owen | wizzyrea: helpful |
| 19:07 | jwagner | wizzyrea, especially if you include multi-library test scenarios -- transfers, holds allowed, holds forbidden, independent branches, etc. |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | yep, that was the plan |
| 19:07 | we've got them all fresh in our minds right now, we were going to write them up | |
| 19:07 | so | |
| 19:07 | format | |
| 19:07 | flowchart or prose? | |
| 19:08 | jwagner | I'd do a How to test [scenario]: |
| 19:08 | Config is [indybranch or not] holds are allowed/forbidden | |
| 19:08 | Log in as patron/staff from Library A, place hold for patron/on item from Library B | |
| 19:09 | Log in as patron/staff from whichever library, run through checkin, make sure it triggers | |
| 19:09 | etc. etc. | |
| 19:09 | Personally I can follow a series of steps -- numbered, bulleted -- better than I can follow a chart | |
| 19:10 | cfouts | it'd be nice to have scripted unit tests that did that |
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| 19:26 | * cfouts | eagerly awaits the delivery of his new wifi router that won't reset its NAT tables every 45 minutes |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | it would be super nice to have scripted test units |
| 19:28 | I was thinking that these scenarios would help someone to write the test units | |
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| 19:28 | sekjal_a | wizzyrea: it will also help us identify any other possible scenarios Koha doesn't yet support, and figure out how to make them possible |
| 19:28 | mib_lqqib | hi |
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| 19:29 | wizzyrea | that was the other part |
| 19:29 | mib_lqqib | i have a question re printing checkout slips |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | to get the ball rolling on documenting what kind of behavior people might expect out of koha |
| 19:29 | mib_lqqib | how can they be configured? |
| 19:29 | meaning, can I choose the info that appears on the slip? | |
| 19:29 | cfouts | wizzyrea: spot on. it would help to have a descriptive set of use cases |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | mib_lqqib: no, it's hard coded |
| 19:30 | :( | |
| 19:30 | mib_lqqib | oh |
| 19:30 | that's weird | |
| 19:30 | isn't it | |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | agreed. |
| 19:30 | I think there's a bug to make them more configurable | |
| 19:30 | jwagner | Yet another candidate for "make everything editable through the notices-type interface" :-) |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | yup yup |
| 19:31 | mib_lqqib | I'd prefer to have the user's name on the slip instead of card number, for example |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | ok, I'm going to start work on that. I think I'm going to do prose-ish scenarios, and maybe an accompanying chart. Steps... |
| 19:32 | bug 3246 mib_lqqib | |
| 19:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3246 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Looking for a way to customize the patron slips (receipts) |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | re: prose scenarios, thinking of something like in the bug 3536 |
| 19:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
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| 19:46 | mib_lqqib | thanks for the info guys |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | sure thing. If you have the expertise you might consider adding the functionality you want and submitting it. |
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| 19:49 | mib_lqqib | i don't have the expertise :( |
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| 21:52 | chris | Morning |
| 21:54 | rhcl_away | chris |
| 21:56 | cfouts | it's a schpadoinkle day |
| 21:57 | rhcl_away | are those baked or fried? |
| 21:58 | cfouts | blanched, actually |
| 21:59 | rhcl_away | ew. like poached eggs? |
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| 22:02 | * cfouts | is brought out of his coding haze into hunger at the thought of poached eggs |
| 22:08 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 22:08 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 29.3�C (5:17 PM CDT on August 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:08 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 22:08 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (10:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:35 | chris | wow, SD are continuing their FUD |
| 22:35 | "David Noll, our SirsiDynix Field Sales Consultant. Dave wanted to know why we intended on leaving Symphony. We discussed our current issues ... and the main problem was the cost of the product and how frustrated we are that the prices continue to climb. Dave informed us that 30% of the libraries that left SirsiDynix for open source software ended up with SirsiDynix again." | |
| 22:35 | 97% of the statistics put forth by SD are bs | |
| 23:15 | according to libwebcats: 88 horizon to koha, 52 from unicorn, 3 have gone from koha to proprietary, 0 of those being Sirsi Dynix (Polaris and Apollo) | |
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| 23:19 | chris | SD need to learn its harder to lie on the internet these days, at least its harder to get away with it |
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| 23:28 | ebegin | Have a good week end everyone! |
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