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| 03:27 | Amit | heya chris, brendan |
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| 05:38 | wajasu | i'm going to do an update from 3.06. Is 3.2's release imminent? i.e. in the next week or two? Or shoud I grab the current alpha. |
| 05:39 | chris | There is a beta |
| 05:39 | * chris | clocks on from the bus, I love android |
| 05:40 | chris | And a release candidate is due out any day now |
| 05:40 | wajasu | so there will be rc1, rc2 ... over the next few months. |
| 05:40 | chris | Hopefully just rc1 |
| 05:41 | Maybe rc2 if needed but I don't think it will be | |
| 05:41 | Libraries are running beta in production | |
| 05:42 | Also you hit my pet peeve :) its 3.0.6 .... silly to worry about but I do hehe | |
| 05:42 | wajasu | yeah my typo. |
| 05:43 | my librarian is doing labels and if i upgrade, then maybe the label module is better. | |
| 05:44 | chris | It is definitely better in 3.2 |
| 05:44 | Do you use debian? | |
| 05:44 | wajasu | i also want to see if diacritics are handled in labels, and web pages. |
| 05:44 | i see some records with a letter then a diacritic nex to it. | |
| 05:44 | chris | The diacritics is a problem with the pdf spec |
| 05:44 | wajasu | i use archlinux. |
| 05:45 | chris | For labels anyway |
| 05:45 | The website we have more control over | |
| 05:45 | Ahh I won't suggest u use the debian packages then | |
| 05:46 | Chris_n is the one to ask about labels | |
| 05:46 | He did the rewrite for 3.2 | |
| 05:47 | wajasu | if the website show diacritics next to the letter in cases, could it be a problem of how I encoded the unicode and stored it in the database when creating marc21 records? or is it a lack of sophistication in the page display logic? |
| 05:48 | chris | For 3.2 diacritics display right, as do umlauts and macrons etc I can't remember for 3.0.x |
| 05:50 | wajasu | ok. i need that. its an academic library and many authors and texts have diacritics. |
| 05:50 | i'll grab the beta and try it out. | |
| 05:50 | chris | Yep many multilingual libraries use koha |
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| 05:51 | wajasu | is a git based pull with a certain tag worth grabbing instead? i.e. more fixes closer to the 3.2 release? |
| 05:53 | chris | Yeah |
| 05:53 | Just grab master | |
| 05:54 | Master will branch after the rc | |
| 05:54 | But for now master is what will be 3.2 | |
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| 05:55 | chris | Stuff for 3.4 is in the new/ branches |
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| 05:56 | wajasu | ok. i'll dupe my prod db and run that against it to see the benefits, then hopefully the 3.2 will be released, and i'll install that. |
| 05:57 | chris | Good plan |
| 05:57 | Do you use acquisitions? | |
| 05:58 | wajasu | you mean purchasing from vendors...? |
| 05:58 | chris | Yeah the acqusitions modulw in koha |
| 05:59 | The last blocker for release is to do with data upgrade for acq | |
| 06:00 | Ok my bus is nearly home bbl | |
| 06:00 | wajasu | no acquisitions used yet. |
| 06:00 | thx | |
| 06:01 | i just got back from the philippines and I'm now back in texas and now i'm up all night. | |
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| 06:15 | greenmang | has anybody tried working on Amazon's API to search books? |
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| 06:32 | kf | morning #koha |
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| 07:24 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:24 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7�C (9:33 AM CEST on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 | kf | hmpf. |
| 07:41 | jo | waves at kf |
| 07:41 | kf | hi jo :) |
| 07:42 | nice to see you :) started feeling a bit lonely here :) | |
| 07:42 | jo | i would usually be home - working late to get report done for auditors |
| 07:43 | kf | does not sound like a lot of fun |
| 07:45 | jo | no. and i'm so tired already |
| 07:45 | kf | working out some cataloging rules for a new library |
| 07:46 | jo | oh thats head work to |
| 07:46 | kf | it's not that bad, just working out how they should catalog their items in union catalog so we get all needed information for koha (item types and locations) |
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| 08:23 | chris | evening |
| 08:24 | kf | hi chris |
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| 08:29 | kf | testing sekjals patch for bug 4385 now |
| 08:29 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4385 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With XSLT on, results list doesn't show both hardcopy and URL availability |
| 08:32 | chris | cool |
| 08:34 | kf | looks great so far |
| 08:34 | had to import records with items first :) | |
| 08:34 | chris | :) |
| 08:43 | jo: updated the levin trip page | |
| 08:45 | kf | chris: is the library (new sponsor) missing in the list on the start page) |
| 08:47 | chris | yep, ill add that |
| 08:54 | done | |
| 08:58 | kf | done testing too |
| 09:03 | chris | cool |
| 09:04 | what you could do | |
| 09:04 | is signoff the patch and attach it to the bug | |
| 09:04 | or resend it even | |
| 09:05 | that way galen knows someone has tested the patch applies and works, makes his life easier | |
| 09:05 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cce54cae5609e3a7f | |
| 09:05 | like that | |
| 09:08 | kf | I added a comment to the bug, not sure how to resend it? |
| 09:08 | resign? | |
| 09:08 | need help :) | |
| 09:11 | chris | :) |
| 09:11 | how did you apply the patch | |
| 09:11 | git am -s -i -3 -u ? | |
| 09:11 | kf | with the command you taught me |
| 09:11 | yep | |
| 09:11 | chris | right, the -s is signoff |
| 09:11 | kf | on a new branch |
| 09:11 | chris | so now if you do git format-patch |
| 09:11 | it will make a new patch, with the signoff line | |
| 09:12 | git show | |
| 09:12 | will show you it if you want to look before you make the patch | |
| 09:12 | kf | Signed-off-by: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischerbsz-bw.de> |
| 09:12 | did not know git show, normally use vi | |
| 09:12 | but this is a good tip | |
| 09:13 | just resend it now or add a comment? | |
| 09:14 | chris | if you want to to add a comment you can |
| 09:14 | with git commit --amend | |
| 09:17 | kf | let me try |
| 09:20 | ok, done, but forgot to set the date in my vb...(again) | |
| 09:21 | hm and my comment got lost | |
| 09:22 | ah, I have to do format-patch again after amend? | |
| 09:23 | chris | yup |
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| 10:08 | pentarex | hey guys |
| 10:08 | i have this problem with my harvest | |
| 10:08 | PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class locum in /usr/local/etc/scas_dsn.php on line 15 | |
| 10:09 | can someone help me please | |
| 10:09 | ops | |
| 10:09 | is not that problem | |
| 10:09 | PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class locum in /usr/local/lib/locum/locum.php on line 15 | |
| 10:09 | its this problem | |
| 10:12 | chris | koha is not written in php |
| 10:12 | that doesnt sound like anything to do with koha | |
| 10:12 | jo | homertime ! night all |
| 10:12 | chris | night jo |
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| 10:13 | pentarex | i mean i have problem with this connector module for drupal - locum |
| 10:13 | anyone can help me | |
| 10:13 | with this | |
| 10:14 | chris | you are probably better off asking on a drupal mailing list, or drupal irc channel |
| 10:14 | this one is about Koha, which is written in perl not php | |
| 10:19 | pentarex | sorry |
| 10:19 | ;) | |
| 10:19 | 10x anyway | |
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| 10:25 | chris | people are weird |
| 10:38 | kf | is locum used for sopac perhaps? |
| 10:39 | chris: locum is in nicoles manual - so not that weird perhaps :) | |
| 10:39 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]manual/?ch=x10143 | |
| 10:39 | chris | yeah, nothing to do with koha though |
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| 11:30 | kf | jcamins: around? |
| 11:30 | jcamins_a: around? | |
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| 11:33 | jwagner | Morning, all. |
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| 11:34 | kf | morning jwagner |
| 11:34 | jwagner | I don't work at the MySQL level -- how can I see what MySQL indexes are usually created? Right now I'm interested in the borrowers table. I'm looking at kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql but I'm not sure that's where I should be looking. |
| 11:36 | kf | sorry, I never worked with indexes |
| 11:37 | but this would be the place I would look too | |
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| 11:38 | chris | show indexes from tablename |
| 11:38 | kf | jwagner: look here http://spedr.com/159lku |
| 11:38 | chris | in mysql |
| 11:38 | so | |
| 11:38 | show indexes from borrowers; | |
| 11:39 | * kf | takes notes |
| 11:41 | jwagner | OK, I think that's what I was looking for -- the KEY entries in the kohastructure.sql file or the MySQL command. In either case, it looks like there are not indexes on the various name fields (surname, firstname, etc.), so that answers the question I was investigating. Thanks. |
| 11:44 | chris | jwagner: explain |
| 11:44 | is a great command | |
| 11:44 | explain some sql | |
| 11:45 | will tell you what indexes are being used | |
| 11:45 | by a given query | |
| 11:46 | ok bedtime | |
| 11:46 | kf | night chris |
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| 11:48 | pentarex | hey guys ... again |
| 11:48 | in koha when i want to add a record | |
| 11:48 | in section 9 | |
| 11:48 | mark up c : item type | |
| 11:48 | is blank | |
| 11:48 | how i can fix it | |
| 11:50 | anyone ? | |
| 11:53 | i found it now | |
| 11:53 | everything is ok | |
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| 14:39 | rhcl_away | Morning brendan |
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| 14:48 | brendan | mornign rhcl |
| 14:48 | s/mornign/morning | |
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| 16:14 | owen | Hi druthb |
| 16:14 | druthb | Hi, owen! :D |
| 16:14 | * druthb | struts around on her new prosthetic leg. |
| 16:14 | * owen | checks his watch and taps his foot |
| 16:14 | owen | ;) |
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| 16:18 | owen | nengard do you find new bugs every time you do training? :) |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | hey ruth :) |
| 16:20 | nengard | yes owen |
| 16:20 | :( | |
| 16:20 | but at least these were small(ish) | |
| 16:21 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | better than not finding them :) |
| 16:21 | * wizzyrea | waves, squees |
| 16:21 | * druthb | squees back, and sashays back and forth some more. |
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| 16:27 | nengard | druthb I need some tips for getting around on crutches cause right now i'm at the mercy of hubby!! |
| 16:28 | druthb | Two sticks or one, nengard? And I assume you've got one foot totally out of action, and holding it off the floor. |
| 16:28 | nengard | 2 sticks and yes - 1 foot totally off the floor - no weight allowed |
| 16:28 | for 1 month!!!!!! | |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | omg what happeneD/ |
| 16:29 | nengard | turns out I have a condition called avascular necrosis - easy explanation is my hip is dying. my mom had both hers replaced at 45 and when I felt a little pain i went right in. the idea is no weght bearing for a month might let it heal a little |
| 16:29 | keyword = might | |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | :O |
| 16:29 | nengard | if that doesn't work it's surgery |
| 16:29 | and if that doesn't work | |
| 16:29 | druthb | Okay. Commonest problem I see is poorly-fitting sticks. Wearing a shoe you normally wear, stand ramrod-straight, like at military "Attention". The crutch should *just* make contact with your armpit, or be not more than an inch under it. |
| 16:29 | nengard | it's a new hip |
| 16:30 | druthb - when i stand i'll check to see if it's right, I think I'm pretty close to straight | |
| 16:31 | druthb | People tear up their shoulders alla time by slouching onto their crutches. If they're sized right, you can't slouch. Handgrips should be where your arms are almost straight, and weight should be about evenly distributed between armpits and hands. |
| 16:32 | nengard | yeah day one i put bruises on my armpits!!! but i fixed things after that and put memory foam on the arm pads :) hehe |
| 16:32 | druthb | Keep the tips close together; they should remain more-or-less vertical. a big outswing like you're rowing is unhealthy and dangerous for you and everyone around. |
| 16:32 | nengard | that's i'm not doing |
| 16:32 | i have them out wide | |
| 16:32 | maybe why i feel like i'm gonna fall :) | |
| 16:32 | druthb | yep. |
| 16:33 | It's just like standing with your feet way apart; you feel unstable, because you *are.* | |
| 16:33 | They'll feel "tall", like you're hauling yourself over a hump, but it is much more stable and sustainable. | |
| 16:36 | Some courtesy things--when you sit down, store them vertically, rather than laying them down across the floor. Even as short as yours must be (compared to mine), they present a big trip hazard, unless laid down against a wall or something. | |
| 16:36 | nengard | funny how while helping me you find a way to pick on me too :) |
| 16:36 | I have been keeping them standing all over | |
| 16:36 | cause i can't really bend down to get them on the floor anyway ;) | |
| 16:36 | wizzyrea | oh you poor thing nengard |
| 16:37 | nengard | i'm doing better than i was when i found out |
| 16:37 | druthb | yup. When we had lunch at ALA, sitting on the floor, I pushed mine over against the rail to keep 'em out of the way. It bugged me to not stand them up. |
| 16:37 | nengard | still scared of what may happen -but bri (awesome hubby) came with me to vegas last week and to MO next week |
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| 16:48 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:50 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 16:50 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9�C (6:59 PM CEST on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
| 16:51 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
| 16:52 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 16:52 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 21.8�C (12:53 PM EDT on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady). Flood Watch in effect through late tonight... |
| 16:53 | jcamins | druthb: is that a ten degree temperature drop compared to yesterday? |
| 16:53 | druthb | yep. Cooler and very, very rainy today. |
| 16:54 | owen | Anyone here familiar with the AddPatronLists preference? |
| 16:54 | cait | sounds familiar |
| 16:54 | owen | "List [general patron types / specific categories ] under the new patron menu" |
| 16:55 | cait | ah |
| 16:55 | It changes the list in the borrower record | |
| 16:55 | I think you see the categories with one selection | |
| 16:55 | owen | I think, but I'm not positive, that with either setting it is still assumed that you have created your own patron sub-categories |
| 16:55 | cait | or I am totally wrong about it - did not find it very useful |
| 16:56 | yeah, i think it's only a display thing | |
| 16:56 | showing the categories (staff, child, adult) as heading in the pulldown above your category types | |
| 16:57 | or I just did not understand how it works | |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 16:58 | holdsqueue | |
| 16:58 | I'm on a crusade. | |
| 16:59 | Can somebody give me a good reason not to show a specific barcode for every hold on the holdsqueue? | |
| 17:00 | jwagner | wizzyrea, because for some holds any item could fill it? If you pre-select a barcode and that one can't be found for some reason (or someone has just checked it out), you don't know if it's OK to pull the next copy from the shelf. |
| 17:00 | (We've noted chris's patch & put it on the list to cherrypick, incidentally, so you don't have to ask for it....) | |
| 17:01 | owen | jwagner: The converse is that if you don't show a barcode and there are multiple copies on the shelf you don't know whether any particular one of them can be pulled |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | Mmm, I don't think I agree with that rationale. Having the barcode helps you pick the right item off of the right bib |
| 17:01 | cait | wizzyrea: why have a barcode there? isn't the call number and title better because they are on the outside of the book? |
| 17:01 | owen | ...because a copy might be attached to a different biblio |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | no, it doesn't really work well, because the call number isn't unique to each book |
| 17:02 | it's a tradeoff: you trade human compute time for computer compute time | |
| 17:02 | jwagner | When we worked on the holds queue report, I think we set it up so that it only showed a barcode if it was an item-specific hold. No barcode, then any item could fill. |
| 17:03 | owen | jwagner: That's how it's been since the release of 3.0 |
| 17:03 | cait | what happens if you show a barcode and a patron takes this copy before you get to the shelf? |
| 17:03 | jwagner | Maybe I'm thinking of a different holds report then -- I know we worked on one of them. |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | it's fine |
| 17:03 | the pick list is only a suggestion | |
| 17:04 | cait | ok |
| 17:04 | owen | Let's take it further: why not show ALL the barcodes which could be pulled? |
| 17:05 | cait | because this could get really ugly for some things? |
| 17:05 | * jwagner | has to run out for a few minutes -- back in a bit |
| 17:06 | cait | hm, to show the call number it must already select one item as suggestion? |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | owen: that would be wowie, imagine all 60 twilight copies on a single pick list! |
| 17:07 | :D | |
| 17:07 | er | |
| 17:07 | hold queue | |
| 17:07 | chris | if you put barcode, you would need to add another column |
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| 17:08 | chris | to tell ppl whethere this hold is an any, or a specific item |
| 17:08 | at the moment you can tell, if it has a barcode, the borrowers wants exactly that | |
| 17:08 | if not, the borrower doesnt care | |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | I have already done this! |
| 17:08 | :) | |
| 17:08 | chris | wheres the patch? |
| 17:09 | local changes do me no good :) | |
| 17:09 | owen | How about showing 2 or 3 barcodes and an indication that there are more? |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | I am trying to decide if there is a technical reason, and not a workflow reason, to change it |
| 17:09 | chris | the only technical one is it involves a second sql query |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure it does |
| 17:10 | chris | to fetch the items, (that exist in the right branch) |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | it looks like the flag for barcode displays the picked item regardless of whether it's item or title level |
| 17:11 | certainly owen's proposal would require additional work | |
| 17:11 | owen | wizzyrea: I also wonder if the 1 barcode you get with the existing query matches all requirements (available, for loan, etc) |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | that I do not know |
| 17:11 | but, I haven't gotten complaints about it | |
| 17:11 | owen | Also: Hi chris, aren't you up too early? |
| 17:11 | chris | got another flight |
| 17:12 | jcamins | chris sensed confusion on #koha. |
| 17:12 | chris | and the dogs woke me up |
| 17:12 | owen | Oh right, one that will land hopefully? |
| 17:12 | chris | wizzyrea: it doesnt currently |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | http://www.screencast.com/user[…]ba30-1a200c2f0f17 this is what I'm thinking |
| 17:13 | lordie | |
| 17:13 | it doesn't currently check for all requirements? | |
| 17:14 | is what you mean? | |
| 17:17 | chris | yeah, although i think its good enough |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | I just talked to my peeps |
| 17:18 | the only time a damaged item has ever been on the pick list, that we know of, was when the item was marked damaged after it was picked by the script | |
| 17:18 | owen | That is contrary to our experience |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | hmm. |
| 17:19 | owen | ...unless something has changed |
| 17:19 | chris | yeah it doesnt check damanged at all |
| 17:19 | it checks onloan, not for loan, withdrawn, and lost | |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | then I guess we've just never come across that one |
| 17:20 | well | |
| 17:20 | hm | |
| 17:20 | I suppose you could say "<barcode> or any available item" | |
| 17:20 | chris | its a 2 line change to get a barcode to show |
| 17:20 | yep | |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | just split the difference |
| 17:20 | yea | |
| 17:20 | I've got that part done, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a technical reason not to | |
| 17:21 | like "OMG if you do that the world will implode" | |
| 17:21 | chris | no, just a workflow |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | I think I'll add "or any available item,' submit it and call it good. :) |
| 17:21 | chris | and that some ppl might get annoyed if they get told to pick a barcode that isnt there, (which will happen more) |
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| 17:21 | chris | yeah, if you do the patch then git blame blames you |
| 17:21 | cait | make it a sys pref? *ducks* |
| 17:22 | chris | and its not my fault |
| 17:22 | :) | |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | hey I"ll take the blame. You don't have to take it |
| 17:22 | ;) | |
| 17:22 | cait | our libraries were quite happy that it was very easy to see the difference between item level and title level holds |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | oh it will still be easy I think |
| 17:22 | cait | it should be easy to see the difference in the list |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | i'll tell you what, I'll protoype it and send a jiing, just a sec |
| 17:23 | I think it will still be easy to tell which is which | |
| 17:23 | cait | ok :) |
| 17:23 | our libraries are smaller, the call number works for them | |
| 17:24 | owen | I *wish* our call numbers were each unique |
| 17:24 | jcamins | I *wish* we had call numbers. |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | < has 31 libraries, each with a unique scheme, and definitely not unique call numbers |
| 17:25 | like, an entire area with J F H, for example >.< | |
| 17:25 | cait | ouch |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | or all juv fiction books with author last name beginning with H |
| 17:25 | yea. | |
| 17:25 | sigh. | |
| 17:26 | cait | the call numbers in most academic libraries around here are quite unique |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | cait: http://screencast.com/t/NDM0NGVlN |
| 17:29 | and owen, for that matter | |
| 17:29 | cait | looks ok to me |
| 17:29 | chris | is that doig the subtitle and stuff too? |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | Yep, see star wars |
| 17:30 | I prettified your work >.> | |
| 17:30 | chris | cool |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | the "clone wars adventures" wouldn't have shown before |
| 17:30 | owen | Looks good to me wizzyrea |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | WOOT |
| 17:30 | ok | |
| 17:30 | I shall submit it. | |
| 17:31 | thank you all for your excellent discussion that led to a change we can agree on. :) | |
| 17:31 | or mostly agree on | |
| 17:32 | cait | :) |
| 17:34 | chris | if you put [followup] in the patch, thats helpful too |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | k |
| 17:35 | chris | that way its easy to see if its a replacement patch, or a supplementary one |
| 17:39 | cait | chris: are you doing patch training today? :) |
| 17:41 | chris | :) |
| 17:43 | cait | oh, it was your yesterday that you told me how to sign-off on a patch |
| 17:44 | tcohen | hi, 1 question |
| 17:44 | as the usage of zebraqueue-daemon seems to be discouraged | |
| 17:44 | * jwagner | is back |
| 17:45 | tcohen | is there a way for setting the accumulative reindexing |
| 17:45 | owen | jwagner: here's what you missed: http://screencast.com/t/NDM0NGVlN |
| 17:45 | tcohen | faster than once a minute |
| 17:45 | ? | |
| 17:45 | (via cronjob) | |
| 17:45 | chris | cron cant run faster than a minute |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | you must have crazy fast cataloger |
| 17:45 | s | |
| 17:45 | tcohen | exactly |
| 17:46 | the thing is that when our librarians add an authority | |
| 17:46 | they want it "instantly" available | |
| 17:46 | jcamins | tcohen: if you really feel like you need it to run more frequently, write a script that sleeps thirty seconds, then runs the reindexer. |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | zounds |
| 17:46 | jwagner | Thanks, owen, was just reading back. wizzyrea, have you submitted that as a patch? |
| 17:46 | owen | Man, librarians are freakin' impatient. It's universal. |
| 17:46 | jcamins | As a cataloger, I can relate. |
| 17:47 | I think it would be less annoying if it weren't for the fact that you _have_ to search for an authority in order to populate $9. | |
| 17:47 | chris | yeah, a bash script with an infinite loop |
| 17:47 | and a sleep | |
| 17:47 | tcohen | yeap, i'll do it that way |
| 17:48 | chris | you might want to just do -a |
| 17:48 | tcohen | I think i'll do it on perl and set a config variable for administering it |
| 17:48 | chris | and let the cron job do -b |
| 17:48 | tcohen | chris: you're right! |
| 17:48 | jcamins | chris: ooh, clever. |
| 17:48 | tcohen | maybe I can use the zebraqueue -daemon.pl structure |
| 17:49 | chris | i wouldnt |
| 17:49 | thats why its deprecated :) | |
| 17:49 | tcohen | I mean, so it can be treated as a system service |
| 17:49 | chris | well if you did a .sh |
| 17:49 | that just called rebuild_zebra | |
| 17:50 | then you could daemonise it | |
| 17:50 | using daemon, or another of the debian utils for doing that, and have it as an init.d script | |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | jwagner: i am just about to |
| 17:52 | chris | that way it handles logging etc for you too |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | stopped to get lunch :P |
| 17:52 | owen | Now that the holds queue report is polished we just have to fix the holds to pull report :| Bug 3060 |
| 17:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3060 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, item number not on holds to pull report |
| 17:52 | * owen | doesn't use the holds to pull report actually |
| 17:52 | tcohen | chris: thanks, 'ill do it and ping back |
| 17:52 | chris | cool |
| 17:52 | tcohen: you could send it as a patch | |
| 17:53 | tcohen | ack |
| 17:53 | chris | for all the impatient cataloguers of the world to use :) |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure she's not referring to the holds queue... |
| 17:53 | jwagner | owen, see Bug 4493 -- that's the report I was thinking of that we worked on |
| 17:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4493 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Enhancements to holds to pull report |
| 17:58 | * wizzyrea | has to go refer to owen's blog post and the koha git usage manual |
| 18:41 | chris | http://www.perrier.eu.org/webl[…]el-countries-2010 |
| 18:44 | cait | 3rd nz and 7th germany - cool :) |
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| 19:01 | chris | ok time to head to the airport |
| 19:02 | cya | |
| 19:02 | s | |
| 19:06 | larsw | fly safe |
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| 19:19 | wizzyrea | question, how can I amend the commit message of a commit a couple back? |
| 19:19 | just edit it? | |
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| 19:30 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: git rebase -i {hash of commit before} the one you want to edit |
| 19:40 | jwagner | Oddball question for everyone. If a patron does not have any of the messaging options set, then in theory they should not be receiving any of those notices (DUE, PREDUE, etc.). Correct? |
| 19:40 | owen | I like it when you think gmcharlt isn't even here and then BOO! he pops up and it makes you jump. |
| 19:40 | * jwagner | hides from gmcharlt |
| 19:41 | sekjal | jwagner: that sounds correct |
| 19:41 | gmcharlt | jwagner: correct |
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| 19:41 | jwagner | That's what I thought. But I have at least one example of a patron who got both a DUE & PREDUE, with no messaging option set. I'm checking to see if the settings were modified recently. |
| 19:42 | Separate problem of why the title shows in some DUE/PREDUE notices & not others. But I'll worry about that later :-) | |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | I can't say that we've ever seen that |
| 19:43 | jwagner | I never have either (getting notices without the settings). Weird. |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea, you're going to update Bug 5143 with your two followup patches and that screencast link? | |
| 19:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | yep. |
| 19:47 | * wizzyrea | has other jobby stuff to do first though. |
| 19:49 | sekjal | jwagner: might their email somehow be attached to another account, as well, one that has Advanced Messaging set up? |
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| 19:51 | jwagner | sekjal, there are three patrons with that last name, but the notice used his firstname |
| 19:52 | Nope, just verified that the others of that lastname have different email addresses. | |
| 19:52 | sekjal | jwagner: huh. weird. I'm out of ideas for now |
| 19:52 | jwagner | Me too. Gremlins. It's Always Gremlins! |
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| 19:53 | jwagner | I might have to have cfouts track it down! |
| 19:53 | * jwagner | hides quickly |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | you have to be nice to cfouts. |
| 19:54 | jwagner | We try :-) |
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| 19:56 | jwagner | Anyone know the table name for the messaging options offhand? Am working from home today & don't have my cheat sheet |
| 19:57 | owen | show tables like '%mess%' ? |
| 19:57 | jwagner | I'm not at the MySQL level -- just doing a report |
| 19:58 | owen | borrower_message_preferences ? |
| 19:59 | jwagner | Yep, that's it. THanks. |
| 20:00 | Nope, nothing in the table for that borrower number. | |
| 20:00 | owen | jwagner: I'm surprised you don't have a VM running Koha |
| 20:01 | jwagner | druthb keeps threatening to come over & install one on my home PC. I keep dodging.... |
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| 20:01 | jwagner | I usually just hop around on various dev systems or production ones as needed. But I don't work at the MySQL level unless someone holds my hand throughout. |
| 20:02 | sekjal | jwagner; there are about 4 tables that deal with this |
| 20:03 | borrower_message_preferences, borrower_message_transport_preferences, message_transports, and message_transport_types | |
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| 20:04 | jwagner | I think it's going to take some intensive prowling & testing to figure this one out. May have to pass it on to the developers after all.... |
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| 20:19 | * chris | clocks in ftom the airport |
| 20:19 | cait | wb chris |
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| 20:20 | richard | hi |
| 20:21 | cait | ouch |
| 20:21 | my import from yesterday is not in the items table | |
| 20:22 | chris | I wonder what was different |
| 20:22 | cait | *sighs* |
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| 20:23 | chris | Hmmm someone else can answer that harley question, I'm sick of it |
| 20:23 | cait | not sure, it looked all ok yesterday. and I have imported status in importitem |
| 20:23 | chris | Was it in the items table yesterday? |
| 20:23 | cait | and the windows question? |
| 20:23 | ;) | |
| 20:24 | chris | Windows annoys me less |
| 20:24 | cait | not sure I checked, perhaps I just looked at the result list and thought it was ok |
| 20:25 | and the message I got from the import script looked ok too | |
| 20:25 | chris | Hehe wizzyrea is all over the patches list |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | badly |
| 20:26 | very. badly. | |
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| 20:26 | chris | Yeah I never do it the way you do kf, so don't have any suggestions I'm afraid |
| 20:27 | cait | you never use staged marc import? |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | ug. there it is, i'm not sure it's right still but I'm done with it for today. |
| 20:27 | * wizzyrea | and git are having a disagreement. |
| 20:27 | chris | Not for importing things with items |
| 20:28 | The other 2 worked | |
| 20:28 | Btw | |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | >.< |
| 20:28 | chris | :) |
| 20:28 | cait | I had only 20 records, thought it was easier this way |
| 20:28 | but I think I found the problem - although it's a bit annoying the tool did not tell me about it | |
| 20:29 | chris | Yeah make sure you report a bug |
| 20:29 | And then fix it :) | |
| 20:30 | Hehe the new one has boraccount stuff wizzy | |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | >.< yea, I know |
| 20:31 | I told you we were having a disagreement, git and me | |
| 20:31 | * cait | hides |
| 20:31 | chris | Did you squash some commits? |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | I can't do any more until I get my crap cleaned up. |
| 20:31 | cait | copy and paste problem when preparing item data - had 2 $b and no $a |
| 20:31 | chris | That'd do it |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Weird. |
| 20:32 | chris | If I get time wizzy I can clean it for ya |
| 20:32 | jcamins | An authority wasn't automatically created for one heading only. |
| 20:32 | chris | No promises I will tho |
| 20:32 | jcamins | I think maybe it's the question mark. |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | I'm not even sure what happened, I needed to edit my commit messages to add the -[followup] bit |
| 20:32 | nah, I will clean it up | |
| 20:32 | chris | Ok boarding |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | safe travels chris |
| 20:32 | chris | Cyas |
| 20:33 | cait | safe travels |
| 20:34 | jcamins: cookies? | |
| 20:35 | jcamins: plz? :) | |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | hands cait some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge |
| 20:35 | cait | wow |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | also hands wizzyrea some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge |
| 20:36 | * cait | sighs happily |
| 20:36 | cait | thx |
| 20:36 | jwagner | Hey! |
| 20:36 | * jcamins | hands wizzyrea more, because she is battling git, and that requires lots of fudge |
| 20:36 | * jwagner | feels neglected |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | jcamins: oh! that sounds good! |
| 20:36 | btw, we've made the cookies like 10x now | |
| 20:36 | cait | I am battling with notices and import and and and... |
| 20:36 | * jcamins | hands jwagner some pomegranate-walnut chocolate fudge, late only because he thought that jwagner had left already |
| 20:36 | jwagner | And I'm battling with a site going live and weird notices and, and |
| 20:36 | cait | ;) |
| 20:36 | * wizzyrea | hands jwagner some of her fudge, hides the rest of it like a squirrel |
| 20:37 | cait | ok, I see, notices don't count :) |
| 20:37 | * jwagner | says mmmmmm |
| 20:37 | jcamins | I think I may have to make more of those cookies, actually... they were really rather satisfying. |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | yea, we nixed the chox chips, and put in dried apricots and pecans instead |
| 20:38 | and they are lovely breakfast cookies | |
| 20:38 | cait | jcamins always has the best cookies and sweets :) I cant even think of these great combinations |
| 20:38 | jwagner | And on that note, I think I'll hang it up for the day. Working from home is great, but I always seem to put in more hours than when I have to keep one eye on traffic. Sigh. |
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| 20:39 | jcamins | cait: I love baking. |
| 20:39 | On frustrating days, I threaten to quit my job and become a baker. | |
| 20:39 | * wizzyrea | is merely passable at baking |
| 20:40 | cait | jcamins: I love baking too, but have no oven in this apartment, only a very small one to make pizza and such things |
| 20:40 | and very small cakes :) | |
| 20:40 | * wizzyrea | imagines cait's tiny cakes, thinks that would be a fun name for a bakery |
| 20:40 | jcamins | cait: I make my fudge on the stovetop. |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | ooh, a cupcake boutique |
| 20:41 | cait | will dream about that |
| 20:41 | stovetop? | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Hob. I can never remember what other people call them. |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | top of the stove |
| 20:42 | jcamins | So you don't need an oven, just a free burner on the stove. |
| 20:42 | And a pot. :D | |
| 20:43 | cait | ah |
| 20:47 | is there a recipe for that? | |
| 20:47 | jcamins | The fudge? Yes there is. |
| 20:48 | Actually, it's my entire Facebook profile, but I also just e-mailed it to someone, I think. | |
| 20:48 | Let me check. | |
| 20:49 | cait | deleted my facebook account |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Here, I found it. |
| 20:49 | Good for you, by the way. | |
| 20:49 | cait | hm? |
| 20:50 | jcamins | On deleting your Facebook account. |
| 20:50 | cait | ah, yeah, I hope it's really gone |
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| 20:51 | cait | hi cfouts |
| 20:51 | jcamins | I'll give the recipe to you tomorrow. |
| 20:51 | Copy-and-paste isn't working. | |
| 20:51 | :( | |
| 20:51 | Just remind me. | |
| 20:51 | cfouts_ | hi, cait. I don't have any fudge recipes. |
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| 20:52 | * cait | feels a bit guilty |
| 20:52 | cait | jcamins: will try :) thx! |
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| 20:54 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 20:55 | cait | cfouts: cookies? ;) |
| 20:55 | jcamins | We should have an official Koha fudge flavor. |
| 20:58 | cait | yay |
| 20:58 | should I file an enhancement bug for that? :) | |
| 20:59 | and our own cookies :) | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | the oatmeal coconut curry ones are pretty epic. |
| 21:01 | jcamins | I'm happy to volunteer for the role of Official Koha Baker (In Absentia). ;) |
| 21:02 | cait | :) |
| 21:02 | ok, now I will definitely dream about fudge and cookies | |
| 21:02 | jcamins | Have a good night, cait. |
| 21:03 | cait | :) thx |
| 21:03 | bye all! | |
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| 22:10 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 22:10 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 25.5�C (3:18 PM PDT on August 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). |
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