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01:13 | Kohan00b | Hello everyone. |
01:17 | Using Koha 3.0 on Debian, I've migrated MARC records from Follett Circ+ to Koha. I've used MarcEdit to change 852 field to 952 field but I'm still getting "No physical itmes for this record" | |
01:18 | The MARC record in Koha contains the item level information but it is not listing it in Holdings. . . not sure why | |
01:22 | wasabi | Kohan00b: your mapping are prolly incorrect |
01:23 | create a test bib, create an item for it. | |
01:24 | look at the 952 block in biblioitems.marcxml and item record, an compare it to your imported ones. | |
01:26 | well, theres actually a bunch of issues that can cause your import to fail... | |
01:27 | but the 1st place to look is incorrect/partical $952 info in your source bibs | |
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01:41 | Kohan00b | Thanks wasabi, will try that |
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05:36 | kf | morning #koha |
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09:11 | chris | evening |
09:20 | magnus | g'day |
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09:30 | smustafa | good day all, |
09:31 | Using GIT of koha for the first time, and I need to know if I want to always be up to date...do I use the [origin/master] or [3.0.x] branch | |
09:31 | I am confused....the branch seems at 3.0.1 at the moment, while the 3.0x is at 3.0.6.. | |
09:32 | I can't clone the main and the branch because I will get very confused and not know what to do...so one main repository is better...*New to git* | |
09:40 | Assuming I go for the 3.0.x branch..and remotly track that....What happens in the future when the HEAD becomes 3.2?? Does this 3.0.x branch disappear? and will I get disconnected and have to connect again to the HEAD and lose everything.. | |
09:40 | I hope I am making some sort of sense :) *** Awaitng response....* | |
10:09 | magnus | smustafa: i'm no git expert, but i do know that all the branches are in the one repository |
10:10 | you can view them with "git branch -a" | |
10:10 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]s/git-branch.html | |
10:10 | smustafa | yes I do know that. But when I start working....what branch should I be working on?? |
10:11 | magnus | and "check one out" with "git checkout name-of-branch" |
10:11 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]git-checkout.html | |
10:11 | smustafa | The reason I ask, is I made a branch that tracks the origion/master branch. |
10:11 | Then I thought oh oh....I don't think I am getting the 3.0.6 changes, since the master is at 3.0.1 :) | |
10:11 | magnus | that sounds good to me |
10:11 | smustafa | so I think the master/origin is behind.. |
10:12 | kf | smustafa: I understand what you mean, but I don't know how it works :( |
10:12 | chris | master is at 3.1.x |
10:12 | not 3.0.1 | |
10:12 | its certainly not behind 3.0.x | |
10:13 | smustafa | Chris, I get the following message |
10:13 | on the web installer | |
10:13 | We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.01.00.145, you must update your database | |
10:13 | chris | yes |
10:13 | smustafa | That is why I said 3.0.1 :) |
10:13 | and this is the clone of origin/master | |
10:13 | chris | see the dots there |
10:13 | 3.01.00.145 | |
10:13 | not 3.0.1 | |
10:13 | smustafa | oh I see...hmmm sorry. My fault! |
10:14 | now I understand. The master/origin is good to go on | |
10:14 | chris | if you want to upgrade to what will soon be 3.2 then yes |
10:14 | smustafa | Now on to my next question. I did a fresh install using the [dev] setup. However now if I want to make changes lets say to any of the code...do I do it on the location of the git repostory clone, or go directly to /usr/share/koha |
10:14 | and change there?? | |
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10:16 | chris | change it in your git clone |
10:17 | smustafa | how do the changes apply on the site? I need to run perl MakeFile, then make, then test, then install again? after every change?? |
10:17 | Because it seems it copies all the important files to /usr/share/koha after every make install.... | |
10:17 | *sorry for my stupid questions....I was doing it all wrong for 1 year*.... | |
10:17 | chris | no it doesnt |
10:17 | not if you choose a dev install | |
10:18 | smustafa | I did do a [dev] install.. |
10:18 | chris | then its running the code from out of your clone |
10:18 | you can check that by looking at the koha-httpd.conf | |
10:18 | smustafa | what about that code in /usr/share/?? |
10:19 | chris | thats just the config, and zebra files |
10:19 | smustafa | ok dear, I shall try |
10:19 | Thank you | |
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10:43 | zer0c00l | I am new to koha. I installed koha on windows following http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ . After adding couple of books through "Add biblio" link. I tired to search it. But the search is not showing added books. how to resolve? |
10:45 | What is Marc tags ? Do i need to configure them and link them to database before adding books to koha? | |
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11:17 | zer0c00l | any one out there? |
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11:38 | jwagner | Morning, all |
11:38 | hdl | hi jwagner |
11:43 | zer0c00l | Hi jwagner |
11:43 | hdl, jwagner Do i need to configure koha after successfully installing it? | |
11:44 | I just tried to add some records through http://intranet , but can't search them | |
11:47 | kf | hi hdl and jwagner |
11:49 | zer0c00l: check the faq http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#16 | |
11:51 | if you have installed koha with zebra you need set up rebuild_zebra as cronjob for indexing | |
11:51 | zer0c00l | kf: Thank you. No i am not using zebra. |
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11:51 | zer0c00l | kf: Just trying it on windows (koha 2.2.9 ) for my school |
11:52 | kf | 2.2.9 is very old |
11:53 | you will miss a lot of features and there can be bugs too | |
11:53 | I would recommend testing the current stable or development version on linux | |
11:53 | zer0c00l | kf: ok, I have downloaded some koha live cd (ubuntu 10.04) will consider using it |
11:55 | kf | you can use virtual box - I have my development installation on windows with virtual box. i |
11:56 | zer0c00l | kf :-) . Yeah i am going to test it with virtual box. I run fedora :-) |
11:56 | kf | I have a meeting now, will be back later |
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11:56 | zer0c00l | kf: ok. bye , later |
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12:42 | owen | Computer: End program. |
12:44 | * chris_n | hands owen a cup of coffee |
12:45 | owen | Thanks chris_n. You know how it is, sometimes you have to make sure you're not living inside a Holodeck program concocted by the holographic projection of Professor Moriarty. |
12:46 | chris_n | yup... or making sure you still have control of HAL |
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12:48 | owen | Barking ineffective commands to the computer to end the current simulation confirms (I hope) that I'm not in a simulation. Randomly asking HAL to open doors for me will only make me worry when the doors don't open. |
12:49 | cait_mtg | magnus, still around? |
12:49 | magnus | cait_mtg: yup |
12:51 | cait_mtg is now known as kf | |
12:51 | * owen | has really got to stop asking his 3.0.x repo to "rebase origin." The poor thing. |
12:51 | kf | hm confusing my identities. no good sign |
12:51 | magnus: have you booked your hotel for wellington yet? | |
12:52 | magnus | yup, or rather b&b: http://www.booklovers.co.nz/ |
12:53 | (tip from chris) | |
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12:53 | kf | ah ok |
12:54 | magnus | think there was one spare room (with separate, private bathroom (not ensuite)) when i booked |
12:54 | kf | Home made chocolate chip cookies |
12:55 | magnus | say no more... ;-) |
13:00 | * jwagner | perks up ears -- cooookkkkkkiiiiiieeeeeessssss? |
13:03 | kf | jwagner: is your pile of cookies already history? |
13:05 | hdl | hi all |
13:06 | jwagner | kf, there's a few left. This is because druthb was out of the office for most of yesterday.... |
13:06 | kf | hi hdl |
13:06 | jwagner: cookies... *sighs* | |
13:07 | owen | Don't blame druthb, jwagner, I would have eaten them if I was there! |
13:07 | * jwagner | sends owen and kf cookies |
13:08 | kf | yay :) |
13:08 | druthb | *perks at the mention of her name |
13:08 | * druthb | has already had a cookie this morning. |
13:08 | kf | hi druthb |
13:08 | :) | |
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13:17 | briceSanc | hi all |
13:18 | jcamins | Good morning. |
13:18 | I see someone is trying to install Koha on FreeBSD. | |
13:21 | * owen | is trying to resist the urge to reply with a rant about the term "community edition" |
13:22 | jcamins | owen: at least the e-mail didn't start out with "I installed the latest version of Koha, Koha Harley," right? |
13:22 | Because that would just be confusing. | |
13:22 | owen | True |
13:22 | jcamins | I will leave the ranting to you either way. |
13:22 | brendan | Heh |
13:22 | owen | That would have definitely provoked a rant |
13:23 | jcamins | In fact, it looks like I will leave the replying to someone else. Grrr. |
13:27 | kf | jcamins: need cookie? |
13:27 | jcamins | It took four minutes, but I successfully managed to coax a "compose e-mail" window out of Thunderbird. |
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13:27 | jcamins | kf: if you have a spare cookie, I would not say no. Especially since I never got around to baking yesterday. We had to leave the windows open because our apartment smelled of paint, so it would've been a bit warm. |
13:28 | * kf | sends jcamins a cookie |
13:32 | jcamins | owen: ... Koha 3.2 beta (note that what you are calling "Community edition" is actually "Koha") ... |
13:33 | any corrections? | |
13:36 | owen | jcamins: chris_n beat you to the rant |
13:37 | jcamins | Yay! |
13:38 | * jcamins | bangs side of computer # stupid e-mail! |
13:38 | jcamins | There it is. |
13:40 | Is there some way to make preformatted lines in mediawiki wrap politely? | |
13:41 | kf | owen++ #translation bug fixing |
13:42 | owen | kf: I'm amazed that some of these bugs haven't gotten reported ealrier |
13:42 | People really put up with a lot of rough edges | |
13:42 | jcamins | owen: ::cough:: Voyager ::cough:: Aleph ::cough:: |
13:43 | kf | owen: yep, they do. And I often enough work with english templates :( |
13:43 | have to force myself to use German templates and fix all those small things | |
13:45 | one really rough edge is fines | |
13:45 | the fines tab in opac and staff | |
13:45 | no way to translate the entries there | |
13:45 | owen | I think that's Bug 2188 |
13:45 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2188 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, Accounts.pm outputs untranslatable English strings |
13:45 | kf | I think I will use jWuery to fix that (once I find time to write the code) |
13:46 | Query | |
13:46 | owen: yep, an old and ugly bug | |
13:46 | owen | or jKwery for those without a Q in their alphabet? |
13:47 | kf | hmpf. |
13:47 | :) | |
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14:01 | jwagner | owen, do you know if there's a site somewhere that lists what fonts most browsers will recognize/use? I have an odd font request that Firefox isn't recognizing (Edwardian Script). I can get it to recognize other fonts, though. |
14:02 | owen | Browsers will recognize any font which is installed on the user's machine. |
14:02 | jwagner | So the trick is to find something that's within a common e.g. Windows install? |
14:04 | owen | Yes, and those choices are very limited |
14:04 | jwagner | OK, thanks. |
14:04 | owen | http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesi[…]dowsMacFonts.html |
14:05 | http://web.mit.edu/jmorzins/www/fonts.html | |
14:06 | jwagner | Very useful pages -- thanks! |
14:12 | hdl | owen: jwagner beware, those fonts may not support Unicode very well. |
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14:16 | briceSanc | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5038 NEW Comment |
14:16 | munin | 04Bug 5038: enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Checkout by hour |
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14:57 | owen | No apparent error is displayed when running rebuild_zebra.pl, but I'm getting no results from my searches |
14:58 | Can anyone suggest where to look next? | |
14:59 | kf | zebrasrv running? |
14:59 | jcamins | permissions error? |
14:59 | sekjal | owen: full reindex, or from zebraqueue? |
15:00 | owen | jcamins: I'm assuming a permissions error would be displayed onscreen when running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
15:00 | jcamins | owen: I don't think so. |
15:01 | Well, I guess it depends where the permissions are wrong. | |
15:01 | owen | I've changed the user/group for koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb and koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb |
15:02 | I'm running rebuild_zebra.pl as the koha user | |
15:03 | jcamins | Hm, that was what we did wrong (wrong group). |
15:04 | owen | Oh wait, I didn't see this before: "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" |
15:06 | Oh, never mind, I was trying again but forgot to switch users | |
15:09 | Still no luck | |
15:10 | jcamins | Hm. |
15:10 | Did it used to work? | |
15:10 | *use | |
15:10 | owen | This is a new install of 3.0.x |
15:11 | "zebraidx(32023) [log] Records: 2344 i/u/d 2344/0/0" | |
15:11 | Doesn't that mean 2344 records inserted? | |
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15:13 | owen | If I ever did an install where zebra worked right the first time I'd probably die of shock. |
15:13 | jcamins | I'm not sure. You have exceeded my knowledge of Zebra. |
15:15 | wasabi | owen: pastebin your rebuild output, ill take a look... |
15:15 | http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
15:18 | pastebot | "owen" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Zebra reindex output from fresh 3.0.x installation" (66 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/35 |
15:19 | wasabi | looks correct ;) |
15:19 | jcamins | Maybe zebrasrv isn't running properly? |
15:19 | wasabi | so yr searching problems are to do with zebrasrv.... |
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15:20 | wasabi | killall zebrasrv; zebrasrv -f /path/to/koha-conf.xml |
15:21 | yeah, restart zebrasrv - outputing to the screen | |
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15:21 | wasabi | and watch the debug, while searching... |
15:24 | owen | that was it, zebraserv hadn't started properly |
15:25 | wasabi++ | |
15:25 | jcamins++ | |
15:25 | Thanks for your help | |
15:26 | I'll be back to ask the same questions the next time I do a Koha install ;) | |
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15:34 | wasabi | owen, i chortled reading your recent email |
15:35 | owen | ? |
15:35 | wasabi | the 'community-edition' email |
15:37 | owen | Today? It wasn't mine. I was only threatening to send one :) |
15:37 | jcamins | owen: isn't it great how you automatically get credit? |
15:37 | wasabi | ahh, twas chris.n .. |
15:37 | * kf | feels a bit ignored ;) |
15:38 | wasabi | yours was *next* email in my koha-inbox |
15:41 | wasabi pays full-attention to kf... | |
15:48 | jcamins | kf++ # because she figured out the zebrasrv problem before anyone else |
15:48 | kf | :) |
15:52 | owen | Sorry kf! |
15:52 | kf++ | |
15:53 | jcamins | @karma kf |
15:53 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "kf" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
15:53 | kf | now I feel silly... :) |
15:54 | jcamins | @karma jcamins |
15:54 | munin | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. |
15:54 | jcamins | Ooh! I have a karma of 6! Watch out, kf, I'm catching up! Slowly. |
15:55 | kf | jcamins++ :) |
15:55 | for cookieeees | |
15:56 | druthb | @karma druthb |
15:56 | munin | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 36 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 36. |
15:56 | druthb | @karma jwagner |
15:56 | munin | druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40. |
15:57 | kf | @karma cait |
15:57 | munin | kf: Karma for "cait" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
16:36 | kf | late :( bye all! |
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16:49 | owen | Hi pianohack, what's up? |
16:49 | pianohack | Hey owen |
16:49 | not much | |
16:50 | owen | You working on Koha stuff these days? |
16:50 | pianohack | Some, yes :) Trying to finish up at the library, which will involve sending in as much custom code as possible |
16:50 | you? | |
16:51 | owen | When I can get away with it. |
16:52 | * owen | is getting away with it today |
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16:56 | pianohack | owen: Anything interesting? |
16:56 | owen | Just going through my bug list |
16:57 | Including bugs like Bug 5006 which I don't even remember filing just two weeks ago | |
16:57 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5006 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template |
16:58 | * owen | will shop for a memory expansion kit during lunch |
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17:01 | nengard | hehe |
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18:19 | owen | Can anyone explain to me the different between a match point and a match check? |
18:19 | different->difference | |
18:19 | cait | staged marc import? |
18:20 | owen | Admin -> Record Matching Rules |
18:21 | cait | vb is booting |
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18:35 | owen | Welcome back CGI627 |
18:36 | CGI627 | I had learned how to reindex a few weeks ago but I can't seem to get it to work now. Thanks |
18:37 | owen | What you were doing before isn't working, or you don't remember what you did before? |
18:38 | CGI627 | i logged in as "koha" and then "kohaclone", scrolled down the directory to "migration_tools", and input "export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone" then "export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/et/koha-conf.xml" and lastly "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl" |
18:40 | owen | just "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl," or with flags ("-b") ? |
18:41 | CGI627 | Then an error message said "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 307" |
18:41 | no flags | |
18:41 | I had done it w/o flags several weeks ago and it worked fine. | |
18:41 | owen | Are you sure your path to koha-conf.xml is correct? |
18:42 | CGI627 | Not really. I'm just using what I used last time. |
18:43 | owen | ls /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/ |
18:43 | (assuming when you typed "et" above you meant "etc") | |
18:44 | CGI627 | I just scrolled down the directory and I think you're right. let me check it |
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18:56 | owen | Any luck CGI627? |
18:58 | CGI627 | yeah, I got the reindex to work |
18:58 | thanks | |
18:59 | I'm playing with a few other issues so you might see me back here later | |
18:59 | take it easy, owen | |
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19:02 | owen | What are the defaults of rebuild_zebra.pl if run without parameters? |
19:03 | jcamins | It just displays the help, I think. I think you need to specify -b and/or -a. |
19:03 | I could be mistaken, though. | |
19:05 | owen | Oh yeah, it just says "Must specify -b or -a to reindex bibs or authorities" |
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19:05 | owen | why_not_just_try_it_for_yourself++ |
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19:45 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
19:45 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.9�C (12:49 PM PDT on August 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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20:17 | chris | morning |
20:19 | sekjal | morning chris |
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20:19 | chris | hiya sekjal :) |
20:19 | keeping busy? | |
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20:20 | sekjal | but of course :) |
20:20 | analyzing some nicely done research from one of clients about the nature of (what appears to be) bug 3536 | |
20:20 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
20:21 | chris | ah yes, hlt have mentioned that too |
20:22 | sekjal | they are getting the worst behaviour when checking out an item belonging to Library A at Library B, then returning it to Library A. |
20:22 | chris | ahh |
20:23 | in that case it should wipe the transfer eh? since its back where it belongs? | |
20:24 | sekjal | what they're reporting is that it asks them to transfer to Library B, then when they checkin at Library B it asks to transfer to Library A, then it clears up |
20:24 | so, some sort of weird double swap | |
20:24 | chris | ah right |
20:24 | wizzyrea_ | whoa, can't say I've seen that one vefore |
20:25 | sekjal | it gets even more complicated when there holds involved |
20:25 | wizzyrea_ | I am sure that will affect us |
20:25 | sekjal | so much so I'm having trouble interpreting the report.... |
20:25 | wizzyrea_ | :( |
20:25 | do you need help? | |
20:25 | sekjal | or maybe that's just the headcold slowing me down... |
20:25 | wizzyrea_ | < has a massive number of holds |
20:27 | sekjal | wizzyrea_: do you experience transfer weirdness often? |
20:27 | wizzyrea_ | every day, more or less. |
20:28 | sekjal | our client recorded the series of actions and the various states of data associated at each stage |
20:28 | step one: checkout Item A at Library B | |
20:29 | list the home branch, holding branch, message, and current status | |
20:30 | continue with checkins at various libraries, etc. | |
20:30 | I guess the extension of that would be to record holds actions in the list, as well. | |
20:30 | so, step 2: place hold, listing patron home branch, designated pickup branch, and title or item level | |
20:31 | wizzyrea_ | question, are they changing the pickup branch from the default? |
20:31 | (the logic supplied pickup branch) | |
20:32 | (or is a human changing it) | |
20:32 | sekjal | not sure |
20:32 | report didn't go much into depth about holds | |
20:32 | just branch transfers during normal checkout/checkin | |
20:34 | wizzyrea_ | aha |
20:34 | sekjal | a full test would need to look at both cases (default supplied and human-set) |
20:34 | wizzyrea_ | I wonder if 4373 is affecting you |
20:34 | bug 4373 | |
20:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4373 major, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues |
20:35 | wizzyrea_ | how many branches? |
20:35 | sekjal | 2 |
20:35 | wizzyrea_ | mmm probably not very likely |
20:35 | sekjal | yeah, I'm gunning for that bug, too, when I get a chance |
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20:36 | richard | hi |
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20:58 | sekjal | cheers, #koha. I'm out |
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21:38 | brendan | was there a protocol for getting pages off the old wiki? I'm looking for http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad |
21:38 | I guess I could use the waybackmachinge | |
21:39 | :) | |
21:39 | chris | its been done |
21:40 | but we need to kill it | |
21:40 | and write it again | |
21:40 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]cter_Sets_in_Koha | |
21:40 | wizzyrea_ | doesn't gmcharlt have a backup of the wiki |
21:40 | chris | because nengard pulled it over from the old wiki |
21:40 | brendan | ah |
21:40 | thanks | |
21:40 | chris | but since kados wrote it, we have no permission |
21:41 | im about to wipe that page | |
21:41 | gmcharlt | yes, although it's fairly old |
21:41 | chris | so look at it quickly |
21:41 | :) | |
21:41 | brendan | got it in wayback - so wipe away |
21:41 | wizzyrea_ | ! it's gmcharlt! |
21:41 | gmcharlt | but to be clear - content of uncertain copyright needs to be rewritten |
21:41 | (nad updated anyway | |
21:42 | chris | right its gone |
21:45 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha&action=history | |
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22:01 | pianohack | Hi, fellow sysadmins |
22:01 | How do you manage the problem of shared access to passwords (server root passwords, etc.) | |
22:01 | imp | pianohack: sudo and no rootpassword |
22:02 | wizzyrea_ | ^^ |
22:02 | pianohack | imp: Where possible, yes :) |
22:02 | jcamins_a | pianohack: Likewise. |
22:02 | pianohack | Still, the access passwords need to be somewhere, to avoid the bus problem :) |
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22:02 | pianohack | As in, "our sysadmin got hit by a bus, and he was the only one that had a sudo-capable login!" |
22:02 | wizzyrea_ | oh. I keep mine in a file on a thumb drive in the fire safe |
22:03 | locked up | |
22:03 | jcamins_a | Oh, I thought you meant for multiple users who need to administer the server at once. |
22:03 | pianohack | Nah. I do all of my server admin through a personal account with sudo rights |
22:04 | In my case, it's because I'm leaving this library and need to make sure everything's written down or saved somewhere :) | |
22:05 | imp | create a second account with the same privileges and hand that one over |
22:06 | wizzyrea_ | ^^ |
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22:08 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
22:08 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 31.2�C (5:14 PM CDT on August 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Falling). |
22:09 | imp | cryptofilesystems and such are the only problems i can imagine (the rest is rootable ;) |
22:12 | pianohack | I trust that the people I'm handing these servers to would create a sudo account if given a root password, but no reason not to just do it for them :) |
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