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| 03:21 | Amit | heya chris, brendan |
| 03:21 | brendan | heya amit |
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| 03:43 | Snail | Hi, I'm from Palmerston North LUG. We are looking for speakers for Software freedom day (20 Sept). Can anyone suggest a representative from the Koha community who might be able to help? |
| 03:43 | chris | hmmm |
| 03:43 | how technical do you want? | |
| 03:44 | ie, do you want a librarian, or a developer type presentation? | |
| 03:44 | richard | rosalie is next door - literally |
| 03:44 | chris | yup |
| 03:44 | Snail | Quote: On Software Freedom Day (Sept 20) we're going to hold a Palmerston North Linux Users Group Super Meeting - venue to be advised. We need some local businesses to talk for 5 minutes about how they use Open Source. If you know any businesses that may be interested in this free advertising opportunity please get them to contact me. Examples of organisati |
| 03:46 | Examples of organisations that might be interested include Churches, ISPs, computer support, telephony, design, programming, schools, etc.: | |
| 03:46 | chris | You could approach the Horowhenua Library Trust, in Levin, who started Koha |
| 03:47 | Snail | I saw a reference to a P Nth school that had recently switched to Koha but cannot find the link. |
| 03:47 | chris | hmm im not aware of any |
| 03:48 | Snail | Do you have a contact phone no. or email address? Their website is vague on such matters. |
| 03:49 | chris | http://www.library.org.nz/where/ |
| 03:50 | Snail | Who do I ask for at the Levin library? |
| 03:51 | chris | Joann Ransom |
| 03:52 | Snail | Thanks. I'll call her now. Would Koha be the most widely adopted free software suite from NZ do you think? |
| 03:53 | chris | not sure, |
| 03:53 | tons of ppl use R | |
| 03:54 | robin | Defining 'from NZ' is tricky. |
| 03:54 | chris | http://www.r-project.org/ |
| 03:54 | id just say 'a' widely adopted | |
| 03:54 | robin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W[…]chine_learning%29 <-- also weka, although less so probably |
| 03:55 | Snail | Of course! Even more if you count Gnumeric users! |
| 03:55 | chris | there's greenstone too |
| 03:55 | robin | And firefox :) |
| 03:57 | Snail | Firefox is pushing it a bit. And it's NZer-inspired usability is slipping of late. |
| 03:58 | robin | I agree, was more suggesting that defining 'from NZ' isn't so easy. |
| 03:58 | My own spare-time app must have a thousand or two users, I'm not really sure. | |
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| 04:49 | robin | http://www.bofh.org.uk/2010/07[…]-of-two-languages <-- chris, and other devs in here |
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| 06:28 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:47 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:47 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.6�C (9:52 AM CEST on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
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| 08:08 | chris | evening |
| 08:10 | kf | hi chris |
| 08:11 | Amit | heya kf |
| 08:12 | kf | ah, I have a question for you: do you know about planned development for child and parent accounts? |
| 08:12 | i found bug 3591 | |
| 08:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3591 enhancement, P4, ---, chris, NEW, "Family administrator" account for OPAC |
| 08:12 | kf | and hi Amit |
| 08:12 | a library asked me about those account, our academic libraries don't use them | |
| 08:14 | chris | yeah |
| 08:15 | the way it works now, children can be attached to a parent (or a guardian) as a guarantro | |
| 08:15 | guarantor even | |
| 08:15 | which means if the books go missing or whatever there is a adult the library can fine | |
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| 08:16 | chris | but they cant do anything like renew the kids books etc |
| 08:16 | this will allow them to see what their kids have out, renew them, those kind of things | |
| 08:16 | all from their account in the opac | |
| 08:17 | does that make sense? | |
| 08:18 | its not actually that hard to do, mostly its designing the interface | |
| 08:42 | kf | ok |
| 08:42 | thx chris | |
| 08:43 | the public library I presented koha to asked about this features | |
| 08:47 | chris | yep, its on my todo list |
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| 09:34 | kf | is it possible that serials does not respect dataformat? (at all?) |
| 09:36 | magnus | what do you mean by "respect dataformat"? |
| 09:38 | kf | dateformat sys pref |
| 09:38 | metric/us/iso | |
| 09:41 | magnus | ah, ok. sorry, i have no idea about the actual question... |
| 09:41 | kf | no problem :) was thinking loud |
| 09:41 | and I don't see this behaviour in my other installation :( | |
| 09:41 | which is slightly older... | |
| 09:44 | ok my fault... just ignore me | |
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| 09:53 | kf | lunch :) |
| 09:53 | dagentoob | hello.... I am having some troble with the Koha LDAP authentication. I can bind to the dir but the password hash doesn't match... anyone have any ideas? |
| 09:56 | if I enable auth_by_bind I don't get any errors in either error log but it still won't log me in | |
| 09:57 | if I enable it I get "LDAP Auth rejected: invalid password for user 'me'. LDAP error #5: LDAP_COMPARE_FALSE," | |
| 10:17 | Amit | heya dagentoob |
| 10:19 | dagentoob | heya amit |
| 10:19 | it is supposed to be dagentooboy.... after the Gentoo distro but it cut it off :D | |
| 10:21 | so any ideas on my LDAP wowes? | |
| 10:22 | woes | |
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| 11:32 | smustafa | Good day all :) |
| 11:32 | It seems that with Koha 3.00.00 Z39.50 Search engine does not search by LC Call Number: | |
| 11:32 | Any ideas? I am searching like TH7414 .S65 1997. | |
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| 11:40 | dagentoob | no ideas on the LDAP? |
| 11:44 | kf | smustafa have you tried to search for parts of the call number? |
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| 11:51 | smustafa | yes I have actually |
| 11:51 | I tried searching for TH7414 only and nothing | |
| 11:51 | same for TH7414 .S65 | |
| 11:51 | nothing.... | |
| 11:53 | kf | which search option? |
| 11:53 | which field is LC call number? | |
| 11:53 | I think . are ignored | |
| 11:56 | @karma Colin | |
| 11:56 | munin | kf: Karma for "Colin" has been increased 14 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 12. |
| 11:56 | kf | Colin++ |
| 11:57 | smustafa: I can look in the code, but plz tell me the marc field | |
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| 11:59 | dagentoob | anyone that could shed some light on the LDAP situation? |
| 12:00 | kf | dagentoob: perhaps try the mailing lists |
| 12:01 | dagentoob: I think ldap is not used by a lot of people | |
| 12:01 | on the mailing list more people will read your question | |
| 12:01 | dagentoob | yeah I know... I have found links to some documentation but wiki.koha doesn't seem to exist anymore |
| 12:01 | thanks | |
| 12:02 | kf | wiki.koha-community.org it is |
| 12:03 | a backup of the old wiki can be found here: http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/ but content might be out of date. | |
| 12:08 | smustafa | I will look into the log files and see if there are any errors first, give me a minute |
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| 12:11 | smustafa | It says |
| 12:11 | Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/ZOOM.pm line 493, <DATA> line 522., referer: http://10.105.42.88:8080/cgi-b[…]g/z3950_search.pl | |
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| 12:12 | smustafa | sub search_pqf { my $this = shift(); my($pqf) = @_; my $_rs = Net::Z3950::ZOOM::connection_search_pqf($this->_conn(), $pqf); $this->_check(); return _new ZOOM::ResultSet($this, $pqf, $_rs); } |
| 12:12 | I think $pqf is uninitialized....hmmm why not sure :) | |
| 12:13 | kf | ah, you tried to search for lc call number in cataloging z39.50? |
| 12:13 | smustafa | Yes :) |
| 12:13 | kf | I thought in catalog |
| 12:14 | not sure how that works, perhaps it depends on the client target | |
| 12:14 | smustafa | no in thde z39.50 search :) |
| 12:14 | kf | not sure all targets support this search option |
| 12:14 | smustafa | no idea either sadly...I will have to trace it, until some one else comes on and knows the fix :) |
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| 12:20 | kf | hi owen and schuster |
| 12:21 | owen | Hi |
| 12:23 | jwagner | Morning, all... |
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| 12:32 | kf | good morning jwagner |
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| 12:53 | owen | gmcharlt around? |
| 12:53 | gmcharlt | hi woen |
| 12:53 | owen, even | |
| 12:54 | owen | Hi gmcharlt, I'm digging into the matching rules interface and have a question if you have time |
| 12:54 | gmcharlt | sure |
| 12:54 | owen | Under match points, there are two groupings: search index and score, and tag, subfields etc. |
| 12:55 | Is that a significant distinction? | |
| 12:56 | gmcharlt | the second group is repeatable |
| 12:56 | owen | It is? How? |
| 12:58 | gmcharlt | search index and score correspond to matcher_matchpoints |
| 12:58 | tag, subfields, etc corresponding to matchpoint_components; | |
| 12:59 | owen | Theoretically repeatable, or I should be able to do it via the interface? I don't think there is a control to make them repeat |
| 13:01 | kf | owen, I think you can when you add a new rule, there is a + - |
| 13:03 | owen | I see links to "add matchpoint" and to "remove matchpoint" but I don't see any link to duplicate the matchpoint_components specifically |
| 13:03 | kf | let me check |
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| 13:04 | kf | ok, I meant those links: Add matchpoint Remove this matchpoint |
| 13:05 | owen | That duplicates both the matcher_matchpoints and matchpoint_components. Perhaps that isn't correct? |
| 13:05 | kf | oh, I also see a link add match check |
| 13:06 | owen | I think that's another thing entirely |
| 13:06 | kf | ok, I m confused |
| 13:06 | :) | |
| 13:06 | owen: what is the problem? | |
| 13:06 | owen | I don't know, I'm waiting for gmcharlt to tell me if there is one :) |
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| 13:07 | gmcharlt | it's more fucntionality that could be implemented in the UI |
| 13:07 | kf | can you take a look at bug 5088 while waiting? :) |
| 13:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5088 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, HTML tags in Amazon reviews |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | but not commonly used |
| 13:07 | kf | now you were too fast gmcharlt :) |
| 13:08 | owen | gmcharlt: So if it was possible to duplicate the matchpoint_component fieldset the duplicated data could be saved by Koha? |
| 13:08 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 13:08 | owen | Okay, thanks |
| 13:09 | kf: See also Bug 2712 | |
| 13:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2712 minor, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Invalid 3rd party content ( eg Amazon ) can break page layout |
| 13:11 | * owen | gets grumpy around Amazon content |
| 13:12 | kf | cookie? :) |
| 13:12 | * jwagner | catches up a bit |
| 13:12 | * kf | tries to bribe owen ... hope thats not illegal on #koha |
| 13:13 | owen | I'm too deep into Bug 5006 at the moment. But please, don't every hesitate to bribe :) |
| 13:13 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5006 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template |
| 13:13 | jwagner | Speaking of matching rules, one of the things I normally do for my new sites is create a combined rule -- OCLC @, LCCN, ISBN, ISSN, etc. so they can use just one rule instead of trying to pick out separate ones. Would this be a useful enhancement. |
| 13:14 | kf | owen: it's not urgent, only annoying |
| 13:17 | schuster | howday all! |
| 13:17 | owen | One more question gmcharlt: I see "Normalization rule" is also marked up with its own ID. |
| 13:17 | Can that one repeat as well? | |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt | yes, a matchpoint_component can more than one norm |
| 13:18 | jwagner: yes, that sounds like useful default data to add | |
| 13:18 | owen | So an additional enhancement would be to enable duplication of that form field as well |
| 13:20 | gmcharlt | ye |
| 13:23 | * jwagner | HATES trying to figure out HTML. Just sayin' |
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| 13:28 | dagentoob | if anyone was wondering I kindof solved the LDAP thing |
| 13:28 | change line 118 in Auth with ladp.pm | |
| 13:28 | to $principal_name = sprintf("uid=%s,cn=users,dc=yourserver,dv=com",$userid); | |
| 13:29 | what was happening was that it was trying to bind as just uid.... for some reason my ldap server wouldn't accept that | |
| 13:30 | so I formatted the string just like the other bind() command above | |
| 13:31 | anyone know what Patron category you need to get into the backend? I tried staff and it isn't working | |
| 13:33 | owen | It's not by patron category, it's by individual patron privileges |
| 13:34 | The first thing to do after a new install is log in as your kohaadmin user, create a new patron record for yourself, and give yourself superlibrarian privileges | |
| 13:35 | dagentoob: Do you know where that option is? | |
| 13:36 | dagentoob | no I don't know where that option is |
| 13:38 | k I just found it | |
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| 13:39 | dagentoob | is there a way to make all the LDAP admins have that privledge? |
| 13:39 | * owen | has no idea |
| 13:39 | kf | jwagner: I like html :) |
| 13:40 | jwagner | kf, want to do all of mine??? I'll make the cookies! |
| 13:40 | It just took me half an hour to figure out something that most properly-trained web developers could probably do in 30 seconds. Sigh. | |
| 13:41 | kf | ok, send cookies first ;) |
| 13:42 | jwagner | What, you want payment in ADVANCE???? |
| 13:43 | * jwagner | Are Not A Web Developer! |
| 13:43 | jcamins_a | jwagner: if it makes you feel any better, I only know about six HTML tags, and three of those are html, head, and body. |
| 13:43 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:44 | * jwagner | feels a little better, thanks. |
| 13:44 | * jcamins | is also very impressed by the ability of everyone on #koha to do things with jQuery. |
| 13:46 | kf | jcamins: I have a cheat sheet for jQuery - changing snippets I learned from owen and others |
| 13:47 | jwagner | kf, I have one too :-) |
| 13:47 | kf | and sometimes looking up things on the website |
| 13:47 | jwagner | I still think if all the Koha libraries in the world would band together & contribute a few bucks, we could hire owen to do fulltime development for us :-) |
| 13:47 | jcamins | I should learn jQuery. It just seems daunting, and not what I want to spend all my time on. Can't I just plug my brain in somewhere and learn it all instantly? |
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| 13:49 | jcamins | ;) |
| 13:49 | owen | jwagner: I'm willing to evaluate the weight of that sack of money |
| 13:49 | jcamins: HTML first, then jQuery :P | |
| 13:50 | sekjal | owen: did you have a favourite resource for learning jQuery? |
| 13:51 | jwagner | owen, you DID say that bribes were welcome! |
| 13:52 | owen | I highly recommend this book for a good foundation of understanding of JavaScript and HTML manipulation: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=166222 |
| 13:52 | I think that book gives you a really good starting point for understanding what jQuery does | |
| 13:52 | ...even though it doesn't talk about jQuery at all | |
| 13:53 | Everything I know about jQuery I learned piecemeal though. Besides the official jQuery docs, I go back to this time and time again: http://visualjquery.com/ | |
| 13:54 | sekjal | owen: thanks! |
| 13:55 | owen | Also: http://www.learningjquery.com/ |
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| 14:00 | CGI290 | So I'm importing bibliographic records and I ran into a problem... |
| 14:01 | I want to input information into marc fields but the records that I imported do not have those fields | |
| 14:02 | Does anyone know how I can add additional fields to the marc records which I have imported? | |
| 14:02 | owen | CGI290: Besides editing each one individually? |
| 14:04 | druthb | owen: I thought you were writing a mind-reading plugin...or was that for circulation? ;-) |
| 14:04 | CGI290 | I'm importing the records one by one so adding additional fields to each one individually would not be a problem |
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| 14:04 | owen | CGI290: You could either use a tool like MarcEdit to amend the records before import, or you could use the MARC editor in Koha after import |
| 14:05 | When editing in Koha you'll have to make sure the framework you're editing your records with has the fields you want | |
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| 14:13 | briceSanc | hi |
| 14:14 | I'm trying to import RVM Laval in my Koha, Do i need to use bulkmarcimport.pl or another script ? | |
| 14:19 | CGI290 | owen, I'm using the default framework |
| 14:19 | owen | does it have the tags you want? |
| 14:21 | If so then you'll be able to edit those tags in the editor. If not then you'll have to amend the framework so that those tags are present | |
| 14:23 | CGI290 | When I look at the default framework in "Koha Administration", the tags show up. However, not all of the tags which show up there appear when I import a record |
| 14:24 | owen | CGI290: Do you have an example? |
| 14:24 | What tag doesn't show up? | |
| 14:24 | CGI290 | tag 880...alternate graphic representation |
| 14:24 | that is the specific tag that I want to add to the records I'm importing | |
| 14:26 | ebegin | briceSanc, RVM are authorities, not bibliographic records |
| 14:26 | owen | CGI290: It looks like that tags subfields are all hidden in the MARC editor because of the configuration of the default framework |
| 14:27 | kf | CGI290: which version of koha are u using? |
| 14:27 | 880 tags will show up in opac/staff with xslt and 3.1... not in 3.0.x | |
| 14:28 | CGI290 | koha 3.01 |
| 14:28 | kf | 3.0.1? |
| 14:28 | owen | kf: But we're talking about the tag showing up in the editor |
| 14:28 | kf | owen: sorry :) |
| 14:28 | CGI290 | 3.01.00.143 |
| 14:29 | owen | CGI290: Do you know how to edit a tag's subfields in framework administration? |
| 14:29 | kf | CGI290: ok, it will display with that version - and owen is right, first you need to add them in the editor |
| 14:29 | * kf | is silent now |
| 14:31 | CGI290 | owen: i can go to "koha administration" then "marc bibliographic framework" |
| 14:32 | that shows me a list of frameworks: default, audio cassettes, books, etc | |
| 14:32 | is that correct? | |
| 14:32 | owen | Then click 'MARC structure' for the default framework |
| 14:32 | CGI290 | ok |
| 14:32 | owen | Search for tag 880 |
| 14:33 | CGI290 | ok |
| 14:33 | owen | Click the "Subfields" link for 880 |
| 14:33 | CGI290 | ok |
| 14:33 | owen | Click the "Edit Subfields" button at the bottom of that page |
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| 14:34 | CGI290 | ok |
| 14:34 | owen | You should now be on a page titled "Tag 880 Subfield Constraints" |
| 14:34 | CGI290 | yep |
| 14:34 | owen | I don't know anything about tag 880, so I don't know which subfields you need |
| 14:35 | For the ones you want to show, click that tab, then click "display more constraints" | |
| 14:35 | CGI290 | ok |
| 14:35 | should I do something to the "hidden" box | |
| 14:35 | owen | Yes. Does it say "-6" ? |
| 14:35 | CGI290 | yes |
| 14:36 | should I change it? | |
| 14:36 | owen | Scroll to the top of the page and click the help link [?] in the upper right hand corner of the screen |
| 14:36 | The help info shows all the different values for hidden and what they do | |
| 14:36 | You probably want "0" | |
| 14:37 | brb | |
| 14:38 | CGI290 | do I need to make that same change to all of the subfields? |
| 14:43 | kf | CGI290: to all subfields you want to show, yes |
| 14:43 | CGI290 | thnx |
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| 14:46 | owen | I hope that means success |
| 14:46 | kf | CGI290: in order to make the display work correctly you will need to add a correct $6 with tag and language code |
| 14:48 | CGI290: one of our libraries is using 880 for hebrew: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=30613 | |
| 14:50 | owen: I tested your patch for bug 4924 - it works nice :) | |
| 14:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4924 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Public/Internal notes missing in staff normal view |
| 14:50 | kf | but I will change the severity to enh and rel3_4 - it seems the notes were never displayed. ok for you? |
| 14:52 | owen | No big deal to me |
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| 15:06 | owen | Interesting that Liblime.com's information about Koha Express no longer specifies which version you'll get. |
| 15:06 | " the most current Koha Project release." 3.0.6 ? | |
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| 15:06 | owen | If you go to the demo page it says "3.0.3." |
| 15:07 | Not exactly current. | |
| 15:07 | Make it difficult to offer help in the mailing list | |
| 15:10 | kf | hm, she wrote it's not on the website, perhaps she can still check the about page? |
| 15:13 | * chris_n | prepares to send *@hotmail.com to the spam box >-( |
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| 15:14 | zer0c00l | Hi, I am new to koha and i am no librarian . I am trying to stage a marc record. Where can i get a sample marc record for upload? |
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| 15:17 | owen | zer0c00l: You could save one from a public Koha OPAC: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=16595 |
| 15:17 | "Save record" in the menu on the right | |
| 15:18 | zer0c00l | owen: Thank you. Doing it |
| 15:26 | owen: How do i add new book information into koha? I added a marc record. Do i have to edit the imported record to add new? | |
| 15:27 | owen | Do you mean to add copies? |
| 15:27 | zer0c00l | owen: new book |
| 15:27 | not copies | |
| 15:27 | owen | You can create new bibliographic records from scratch. |
| 15:28 | Cataloging -> Add MARC Record | |
| 15:29 | zer0c00l | owen: There i see lot of numbers and descriptions. The librarian has very little idea about MARC records, is there any way to disable them and create user friendly bibliographic records? |
| 15:30 | owen | You could create your own simplified framework, but it's a tedious process. |
| 15:31 | zer0c00l | owen: ok |
| 15:31 | so each time i want to add a new book into the system , do i need to "Add a MARC record" ? | |
| 15:32 | owen | If you want to create a record from scratch, yes. |
| 15:32 | You could also do a z3950 search to grab a record from someone else's system. | |
| 15:33 | zer0c00l | owen: ok. Thank you. I got it. |
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| 15:53 | zer0c00l | I am creating a new MARC framework, i need to delete lot of tags to make it short , It is really pain to delete them individually. Is there any short way to do it? |
| 15:54 | owen | Unfortunately the only alternative is to do it directly via MySQL |
| 15:54 | jcamins | zer0c00l: I don't think so. You might better off just hiding all the tags instead of deleting them. |
| 15:54 | If you delete all the tags, I think that means that you wouldn't be able to do copy cataloging with Z39.50. | |
| 15:54 | zer0c00l | jcamins: How do i hide them? |
| 15:55 | owen: I will check the mysql tables :-) | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | It explains in the manual. |
| 15:55 | Let me find it for you. Hold on. | |
| 15:56 | zer0c00l | ok |
| 15:57 | jcamins | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3725#AEN3728 |
| 15:57 | Under 1.4.1.4. | |
| 15:57 | Set hidden to 6 for each subfield you don't want to show. | |
| 15:58 | zer0c00l | jcamins: ok |
| 15:58 | jcamins | It's very, very tedious. |
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| 16:03 | nengard | jcamins i have an enhancement request in place for making editing the frameworks easier |
| 16:04 | jcamins | nengard++ |
| 16:06 | nengard | jcamins can't seem to find it anymore ... hmmmm - off to hunt some more |
| 16:06 | bug 1289 | |
| 16:06 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1289 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Bulk/global edit for MARC frameworks |
| 16:07 | nengard | wasn't me who reported it apparently |
| 16:07 | but i'm on the cc list :) hehe | |
| 16:08 | i'd add that frameworks is 'developereese' and 'templates' is the language that catalogers use | |
| 16:10 | owen | That bug is going to take some funding. No one wants to wade into it unaccompanied I'm sure. |
| 16:11 | zer0c00l | All i have to do is set the hidden column of marc_subfield_structure table to 6 :) |
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| 16:12 | kf | owen: template question - is there a standard class or something to use on fields to make them longer or just increase the size attribute? (bug 4979 |
| 16:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4979 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acq: input fields for new record are too short |
| 16:12 | owen | Input field length is determined by the input's "size" attribute |
| 16:12 | Drakmor | Hey, how do I get kbarcode to connect to our server? I'm thinking I'm putting in the wrong information... but I'm not sure. Also, where can I find info about updating koha 3.0 to 3.2? |
| 16:14 | kf | owen: just wanted to make sure - I dont want to change something when there is a better method or something that is used everywhere else |
| 16:14 | owen | kf: But inputs sie can be affected by CSS if you want to. You'd have to target that particular set of inputs |
| 16:15 | I'm not sure where that "sie" came from. | |
| 16:15 | kf | owen: I know, but I thought this change would be useful for everyone |
| 16:15 | owen | In this case altering the template is the correct thing to do |
| 16:16 | kf | but I will hide some things in acq with css - fields I could not make any sense of :) |
| 16:16 | display:none can be really helpful | |
| 16:17 | owen | There's lots in acq I can't make sense of |
| 16:18 | sekjal | Drakmor: Koha 3.2 will automatically upgrade your 3.0 database when installed. |
| 16:18 | Drakmor | ok, I just install it like a new system? |
| 16:18 | sekjal | Drakmor: did you install your 3.0 instance from the tar file, or from git? |
| 16:19 | Drakmor | I used the live CD.... so I don't know the method the author used. |
| 16:19 | sekjal | Drakmor: ah. well, in either case, you'd want to run: perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
| 16:19 | to keep all the same configurations | |
| 16:20 | you'l have to find koha-install-log, first, which will be in a different place depending on the install type | |
| 16:20 | Drakmor | sure... at this point, the only reason I'm considering an upgrade is to get the improved barcoding... if kbarcode works, I would perfer to use it |
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| 16:21 | Drakmor | I've installed it, but it doesn't seem to want to connect.... |
| 16:21 | sekjal | hmmm, haven't messed with kbarcode before... |
| 16:22 | Drakmor | ok... I'm probably just putting in the wrong stuff to request a connection. |
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| 17:31 | mib_mike | Hi guys |
| 17:31 | Is there any way to delete a group of item or bib records by a list of barcodes or bibnumbers? | |
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| 17:36 | kf | mib_mike: 3.2 will have a tool for bulk delete |
| 17:37 | for items, not sure about bib records, but I think that will not be possible | |
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| 17:53 | mib_mike | Why wouldn't it be possible? |
| 17:54 | kf | I think there is no built in feature to bulk delete records. |
| 17:55 | not in the UI, but I think you can script something - perhaps someone else knows how you can do that on command line or with scripts | |
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| 17:57 | mib_mike | If someone can whip up some recommended SQL, I'd appreciate it. |
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| 18:15 | kf | sql is not the only thing you need to think of, it's a lot of tables and reindexing (and perhaps you will get problems if items were issued, ordered in acq...) |
| 18:16 | not sure how to do that | |
| 18:17 | perhaps ask on list or a bit later when people from a different time zone are awake | |
| 18:22 | bye all | |
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| 19:10 | owen | opac-MARCdetail.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /opac/opac-MARCdetail.pl line 143 |
| 19:10 | ? | |
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| 19:39 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:40 | jwagner | hi cait |
| 19:41 | cait | will you tell me to stop working? |
| 19:41 | owen | Stop working! |
| 19:41 | cait | I was talking to jwagner... ;) |
| 19:42 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 19:42 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 34.0�C (3:40 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 11 am to 7 PM EDT Thursday... |
| 19:42 | cait | owen: thx for my amazon bug :) |
| 19:42 | jwagner | OK, cait, STOP WORKING! |
| 19:42 | cait | hmpf. |
| 19:42 | jwagner | (your wish is my command....) |
| 19:42 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 19:42 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 22.8�C (3:45 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 567 in effect until 9 PM EDT this evening... |
| 19:42 | * chris_n | thinks a heat index of 47.2 C is too hight |
| 19:42 | cait | ok, she is convincing... |
| 19:42 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 19:43 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.3�C (9:48 PM CEST on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:44 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:44 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.4�C (12:45 PM PDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:45 | cait | jwagner: does the wish thing work with cookies too? |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence KS |
| 19:46 | @wunder 66047 | |
| 19:46 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.3�C (2:52 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | oh, well that could be worse I guess |
| 19:46 | JeremyLC | what is the number? (GPS coords?) |
| 19:47 | jcamins | JeremyLC: post code. |
| 19:47 | jwagner | cait, with virtual cookies anyway :-) |
| 19:47 | JeremyLC | oh, right |
| 19:47 | @wunder 76019 | |
| 19:47 | munin | JeremyLC: The current temperature in Shady Valley West, Arlington, Texas is 36.2�C (2:52 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT Thursday... |
| 19:48 | cait | jwagner: that's a start |
| 19:48 | jcamins | @wunder 11105 |
| 19:48 | munin | jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 31.9�C (3:50 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 8 PM EDT Thursday... |
| 19:48 | jcamins | At least it isn't as hot as Texas. |
| 19:48 | JeremyLC | the high was 40 today |
| 19:49 | cait | it's cold here - it's still supposed to be summer :( |
| 19:49 | JeremyLC | and, supposedly, somewhere around 43 for the week (C, not F) |
| 19:53 | cait | still fighting with bug 5090 |
| 19:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN |
| 19:55 | jcamins | cait: didn't jwagner tell you to stop working a little while ago? |
| 19:55 | cait | oh... |
| 19:55 | * cait | hides |
| 19:55 | jcamins | jwagner: don't worry... _I_ still find you daunting. ;) |
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| 20:04 | * jwagner | has no wish to be daunting to anyone. Except druthb and whoever is annoying me that day. |
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| 20:06 | jwagner | But I did bring a baseball bat into the office a week or two ago, when I was being exceptionally aggravated by certain persons who shall be nameless. |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | ... |
| 20:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: by the way, how did your curry coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies come out? |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | I haven't had a chance to make them yet >.< |
| 20:08 | cait | what is the difference between biblio.copyrightdate and biblioitems.publicatonyear? one is used by marc21 and the other by unimarc *grumbles* |
| 20:09 | jcamins | cait: I think publicationyear may be linked to the 260 in MARC21, whereas copyrightdate is linked to the 008. It's ugly. |
| 20:09 | cait | nope |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 20:09 | cait | copyrightdate is 260 c by default |
| 20:09 | and publicationyear is not mapped at all | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Hm. Never mind then. |
| 20:10 | cait | which is the reason you can't save the publication year in new orders in acq |
| 20:10 | jcamins: it would be to easy if you were right ;) | |
| 20:11 | jcamins | You won't be so sure when you start trying to understand dates in Zebra. :P |
| 20:13 | cait | oh I know about them - forced my coworker to add 008 to the data we are migrating right now :) |
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| 20:19 | chris | monring |
| 20:20 | cait | hi chris |
| 20:20 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 20:24 | brendan | morning chris |
| 20:24 | chris | congrats on goddard college brendan |
| 20:25 | came at a very timely moment for us too | |
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| 20:25 | brendan | "came at a very timely moment for us too" - not following |
| 20:25 | and thanks :) | |
| 20:26 | chris | well, its a move from vtls virtua ils right? |
| 20:27 | brendan | yup |
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| 20:27 | chris | will help us out with an rfp response |
| 20:29 | brendan | chris++ |
| 20:33 | cait | :( |
| 20:33 | someone willing to help me with perl? | |
| 20:34 | jwagner | Willing, yes. Able, it depends :-) |
| 20:34 | chris | :) |
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| 20:34 | richard | hi |
| 20:34 | chris | hi richard |
| 20:35 | richard | hey chris |
| 20:35 | cait | jwagner: give me a minute to reconstruct the original code |
| 20:36 | jwagner | chris & others online can probably help -- they're better at Perl than I am |
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| 20:39 | cait | I really need to work on the basics :( |
| 20:39 | http://paste.koha-community.org/36 | |
| 20:40 | I think the addorder script must use different fields in koha-to-marc-mapping for unimarc and marc21 - publicationyear is not mapped for marc21, only for unimarc. marc21 has 260c mapped to biblio.copyrightdate | |
| 20:41 | but I m not sure how to get my if clause in there... I tried repeating the whole block for a start, but after that it was complaining | |
| 20:41 | jwagner | Why are there two $$ with your variables? e.g., "biblio.title" => "$$orderinfo{title}" |
| 20:41 | Is that in your code, or just a screenpaste thing? | |
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| 20:41 | cait | not my variables :) |
| 20:42 | no, it's in the code | |
| 20:42 | but everything above ---- is the original code from acqui/addorder.pl | |
| 20:42 | chris | jwagner and cait $$orderinfo{title} is the same as $orderinfo->{title} |
| 20:42 | i prefer the latter as it is much more readable | |
| 20:42 | cait | you are right |
| 20:42 | jwagner | OK, that explains the $$, then. Never noticed that construction before. |
| 20:43 | cait | I think the ? : construction checks if the variable exists? but why does it not check author - its not required in the form |
| 20:43 | jwagner | Are you trying to do the syspref check within the my $record section? |
| 20:44 | cait | oh, and isbn is not saving although it seems to be mapped correctly |
| 20:44 | hm, no. | |
| 20:44 | chris | do you really want to map publication year to copyrightdate? |
| 20:44 | cait | I tried repeating the whole block (although I know its not good, but to have something working I could try to make better) |
| 20:44 | chris: I see no better solution | |
| 20:45 | chris | but surely publication year should map to publicationyear? |
| 20:45 | cait | it is not mapped like this now |
| 20:45 | marc21 maps to copyrightdate | |
| 20:45 | jwagner | I've generally found it easier to do the syspref check before the my $record type section, enter the value in a generic variable, then use that variable instead of the $$orderinfo{publicationyear} |
| 20:45 | cait | don't ask me wh |
| 20:45 | y | |
| 20:45 | ah | |
| 20:46 | jwagner | so pseudo code would be if UNIMARC, $mypubyear = the one field, elsif MARC21, $mypubyear = the other field, then in the record construct, biblioitems.publicationyear = $mypubyear |
| 20:47 | chris | cait: ahh i see what you mean in marc21 publicationyear is not mapped to anything |
| 20:47 | cait | yep |
| 20:48 | bug 5090 | |
| 20:48 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN |
| 20:48 | chris | ok what i would do |
| 20:48 | is leave it being saved to biblioitems.publicationyear | |
| 20:48 | but if its MARC21 also save it to biblio.copyrightdate | |
| 20:48 | lemme just write it up for ya | |
| 20:49 | cait | chris: thx, I have something working now... but I think it's not the best code |
| 20:49 | your solution sounds better | |
| 20:49 | not depending on a marcformat :) | |
| 20:49 | jwagner | Yes, definitely easier than coding it. |
| 20:50 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/37 <- what jwagner said (or at least I think so :) ) |
| 20:51 | pastebot | "chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "if ( $orderinfo->{quantity} ne" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/38 |
| 20:52 | jwagner | cait, that isn't quite right -- you can't have the $publicationyear as the first piece on line. See chris's version |
| 20:52 | cait | but it works |
| 20:52 | :) | |
| 20:53 | chris: I am not sure I understand your comments | |
| 20:54 | chris | mapping publicationyear to copyrightdate is a bad hack |
| 20:54 | cait | remove the line or the comment after the bug is fixed? |
| 20:54 | chris | its not the same thing at all |
| 20:54 | cait | ah |
| 20:54 | ok | |
| 20:54 | chris | the whole line |
| 20:54 | copyrightdate should go to copyrightdate ;) | |
| 20:54 | cait | but if its the standard for 260c - I think it would be much more complicated to change that |
| 20:54 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 20:54 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 30.9�C (3:59 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:54 | chris | 260c is not copyright |
| 20:54 | cait | oh |
| 20:55 | chris | @marc 260c |
| 20:55 | munin | chris: unknown tag 260c |
| 20:55 | cait | no |
| 20:55 | chris | @marc 260 |
| 20:55 | munin | chris: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 20:55 | chris | @marc 260 c |
| 20:55 | munin | chris: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable) |
| 20:55 | chris | or not just copyright anyway :) |
| 20:55 | marc is stupid | |
| 20:55 | cait | not my fault |
| 20:55 | ;) | |
| 20:55 | chris | yep |
| 20:56 | @marc 260 a | |
| 20:56 | munin | chris: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) |
| 20:56 | chris | @marc 260 e |
| 20:56 | munin | chris: Place of manufacture (Repeatable) |
| 20:56 | cait | but you can not easily change that... I think even with a database update it would be not easy |
| 20:56 | because people can change that | |
| 20:56 | chris | yes, but we should still be saving BOTH |
| 20:57 | cait | and will have different settings in their installations... I am not sure looking those fields up this way is a good solution |
| 20:57 | so why only save both for marc21 and not for unimarc too? | |
| 20:57 | chris | we arent saving both for either |
| 20:58 | not in the marc records | |
| 20:58 | what we are doing, is at least storing it in the db for marc21 as publicationyear | |
| 20:58 | cait | it will not save |
| 20:59 | chris | the real fix is have both publicationyear and copyright mapped to a different field |
| 20:59 | cait | hm perhaps I am missing something in marc21 here |
| 20:59 | chris | because they arent the same thing |
| 21:01 | cait | If the date of copyright acts as a surrogate for the date of publication, it must be recorded in subfield $c (Date of publication, distribution, etc.) preceded by the appropriate copyright or phonogram copyright symbol. Additionally, it may be recorded in subfield $g (Copyright date) of field 542 (Information relating to copyright status). |
| 21:01 | chris | yeah |
| 21:01 | cait | confusing |
| 21:01 | chris | so if you dont know the date of publication |
| 21:01 | use the copyrightdate | |
| 21:01 | jcamins | 542 is mostly only used in archives, to the best of my knowledge. |
| 21:02 | chris | if you do know both the copyrightdate and publicationdate you are out of luck because marc is retarded |
| 21:02 | jcamins | Not that this my knowledge is definitive, of course. |
| 21:02 | cait | ok, we already knew that |
| 21:03 | any idea why I can't save the isbn? | |
| 21:03 | chris | to get round this, i would store the copyright in 542g |
| 21:03 | cait | I found a reason for the publication year but the mapping for isbn seams correct to me |
| 21:03 | chris | and publicationdate in 260c |
| 21:03 | then at least you dont lose data | |
| 21:03 | cait | chris: but what will we do with all the installations that used copyrightdate to store the publicationdate? |
| 21:03 | chris | fix them |
| 21:04 | what if you want to search on publicationdate | |
| 21:04 | you cant | |
| 21:04 | we dont have it | |
| 21:04 | because its hard to fix isnt a reason to leave it broken :) | |
| 21:04 | cait | ok. why do I always find these confusing bugs? |
| 21:04 | I started with a small template change today... | |
| 21:04 | jcamins | Because you're an awesome tester? :) |
| 21:05 | cait | bugnetic.. or something |
| 21:05 | chris | does $$orderinfo{isbn} have data in it? |
| 21:06 | cait | I have no idea how to test that, I tried reading the code and found nothing obviously wrong |
| 21:06 | it starts as a form in neworderempty.tmpl | |
| 21:07 | chris | warn $$orderinfo{isbn}; |
| 21:07 | before that block, then look in the error log | |
| 21:07 | maybe | |
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| 21:08 | chris | warn "KATRIN TEST: isbn = $orderinfo{isbn}"; |
| 21:08 | warn "KATRIN TEST: isbn = $$orderinfo{isbn}"; | |
| 21:08 | even | |
| 21:08 | then you can go | |
| 21:08 | tail -f /path/to/error.log | grep "KATRIN" | |
| 21:09 | cait | hm compilaton error |
| 21:09 | added your code and tried adding a new record | |
| 21:09 | chris | yeah im just typing into the window here |
| 21:09 | so i wouldnt guarantee im not making syntax errors | |
| 21:10 | cait | ok, found one mistake ; instead of , |
| 21:12 | hm still unhappy | |
| 21:12 | Global symbol "$record" requires explicit package name at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/addorder.pl line 205. | |
| 21:13 | and 3 syntax errors in lines I did not touch | |
| 21:13 | chris | can you paste what you have |
| 21:15 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/39 |
| 21:16 | chris | yeah my bad |
| 21:17 | lets just take that if out | |
| 21:17 | "biblio.copyrightdate" => $$orderinfo{publicationyear}, | |
| 21:17 | like you say, no harm doing it for unimarc too | |
| 21:17 | cait | ah |
| 21:18 | chris | also before the my $record line |
| 21:18 | you could put | |
| 21:18 | use Data::Dumper; | |
| 21:18 | cait | isbn is suddenly showing... |
| 21:18 | chris | warn Dumper $orderinfo; |
| 21:18 | cait | but year not... will try with a new record |
| 21:20 | * cait | is totally confused now |
| 21:20 | cait | ok, added new record, filled out all fields, saved |
| 21:20 | now: year is not shown, but isbn | |
| 21:20 | I never got it to show the isbn before, but why is the year not there? | |
| 21:20 | chris | yeah what you want to do is find out what is in the $orderinfo variable |
| 21:21 | JeremyLC | hmm, using koha 3.1 it appears to have a fully implemented auth_by_bind feature, except for the part where it actually does anything :-/ |
| 21:21 | chris | so we can actually see what it is trying to save |
| 21:21 | cait | ah, the year shows up in the marc record |
| 21:21 | so there is perhaps someting wrong with the display in acw | |
| 21:21 | acq | |
| 21:22 | chris | could be |
| 21:23 | it might be trying to use biblioitems.publicationyear which isnt mapped | |
| 21:23 | in marc21, so would work in unimarc | |
| 21:23 | cait | yeah, I think you are right, there is one more place |
| 21:23 | jwagner | Unlike cait, I'm going to quit working overtime for the day :-) See you all tomorrow.... |
| 21:24 | cait | jwagner: thx for your help :) |
| 21:24 | chris | cya |
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| 21:24 | cait | I just want to solve it... or I will dream about it |
| 21:29 | chris: does this look ok? (it works... but still) | |
| 21:29 | publicationyear => $data->{'publicationyear'} ? $data->{'publicationyear'} : $data->{'copyrightdate'}, | |
| 21:30 | what I wanted to do is if publicatonyear has data, use it, otherwise use copyrightdate | |
| 21:30 | chris | that should work yes |
| 21:30 | cait | cool :) |
| 21:33 | jcamins | I'm going to follow jwagner's example. |
| 21:34 | Good luck. | |
| 21:34 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 21:38 | cait | hm isbn is broken again :(... |
| 21:44 | JeremyLC | with auth-by-bind enabled I can successfully bind with the user-supplied credentials and still be told the username or password is invalid because the account cannot be looked up in the directory, this despite the fact that I have replication AND updating disabled (it shouldn't be looking me up, only authenticating) |
| 21:44 | cait | and now publicaton year does not work |
| 21:44 | should go to bed | |
| 21:45 | chris: thx for all your help - learned a bit more about perl :) | |
| 21:45 | chris | you really need a warn in there before you do the transform |
| 21:45 | to check what is in orderinfo .. then we can track the problem down properly | |
| 21:45 | but get some sleep :) | |
| 21:48 | cait | at least the data is now saved in the marc record |
| 21:48 | chris | yup |
| 21:49 | cait | display problems... perhaps I can live with that until tomorrow |
| 21:49 | good night all :) | |
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| 21:59 | cait | chris: the publication year of my new records is not saved to copyrightdate or publicatonyear - so it can not be displayed :( |
| 21:59 | hope I will find out tomorrow | |
| 21:59 | really leaving now :) | |
| 21:59 | bye | |
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| 23:04 | chilts | morning all |
| 23:05 | chris | hey chilts |
| 23:05 | chilts | :) |
| 23:05 | chris | how was takaka? |
| 23:05 | chilts | good, apart from Sunday (wet and rain), it's hotter there than Wgtn is in the summer though :) |
| 23:05 | saw the nieces and nephew lots, so that was fun | |
| 23:06 | chris | cool |
| 23:06 | chilts | how goes it in Koha land? |
| 23:06 | chris | busy, but good ;) |
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| 23:06 | chilts | good :) |
| 23:08 | * chilts | now has less than 10 irc channels open :) |
| 23:44 | imp | chilts: using irssi? |
| 23:45 | chilts | yep, it's all working now :) |
| 23:46 | got my auto joins up and going and now have a small and simple config | |
| 23:46 | imp | hit esc and the one from {q,w,e,r,t,z} ;) -> window 11-15 |
| 23:47 | chilts | yep, know that one :) |
| 23:47 | imp | ok :) |
| 23:47 | chilts | just commenting that my list is now a lot smaller than it used to be |
| 23:47 | back later |
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