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| 00:40 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 00:40 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 12.3�C (7:40 PM CDT on May 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). |
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| 03:18 | kmkale | Good morning all |
| 03:18 | chris | hi kmkale |
| 03:18 | kmkale | hi chris |
| 03:22 | chris: is it correct to put a copyright notice at the bottom of Koha OPAC with the library as the the holder? | |
| 03:22 | somehow I feel its wrong | |
| 03:22 | chris | you could do both |
| 03:22 | copyright library and koha development team | |
| 03:22 | something like that | |
| 03:23 | but yeah its kinda misleading to put just the library | |
| 03:23 | kmkale | I should talk to the trustees about this |
| 03:23 | chris | undoubtedly some of hte text on the page is theirs |
| 03:23 | but some is definitely written by otheres | |
| 03:24 | -e | |
| 03:24 | kmkale | yes but it implies that the web app is designed and copyrighted by the library |
| 03:24 | chris | *nod* |
| 03:24 | kmkale | gotta run. see you later. have a nice day |
| 03:25 | robin | is there a need to put a copyright notice there at all? To me they usually are just visual noise when used unnecessarily. |
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| 03:45 | Amit_G | heya chris |
| 03:46 | chris | hi Amit_G |
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| 04:47 | jo | hi all |
| 04:47 | can anyone point me to a list of fields in the borrowers database from which I can select compulsory fields in patron setup | |
| 04:49 | Amit_G | heya jo |
| 04:50 | jo | Hia Amit |
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| 06:22 | Amit_G | heya nicomo |
| 06:23 | nicomo | hi Amit_G |
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| 06:33 | hdl | hi all |
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| 07:18 | kf | good morning all |
| 07:20 | chris | hi kf |
| 07:20 | kf | fredericd: around? |
| 07:20 | hi chris | |
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| 07:33 | Filippo | Hi |
| 07:34 | I've just succeded, ... I hope in installing Koha on my Red Hat server, but I cannot find a way to start it... | |
| 07:35 | I have installed the "dev" version and under the installation directory I have now 6 sub-folders: bin, doc, etc, man, misc, var | |
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| 07:37 | Filippo | I do not know hot to proceed to start Koha with my Apache (publishing folder of Apache is /var/www/html) |
| 07:38 | Can anyone help me starting Koha...? | |
| 07:43 | fredericd | kf: yes |
| 07:45 | Filippo | Do you know a guide to follow to start Koha, or some simple command to make it start? |
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| 07:47 | fredericd | Filippo: Koha is not a PHP application. Its installation process is more complex. Read in details the installation notes in koha root directory |
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| 07:50 | kf | fredericd: hi :) |
| 07:51 | fredericd: I saw you cc-ed my bug report about javascript error messages - I tried to make a message in the js directory translatable yesterday and I noticed that most of the messages were formatted correctly but not in po. is the js file included for translation? | |
| 07:53 | fredericd | kf: It should and it certainly was. |
| 07:54 | kf | ok, I was testing on my laptop yesterday, I can check in my test installation here again. file a bug if the files are not translated? |
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| 07:54 | fredericd | yes. Do you recreate .po files yourself or do you work exclusively with pootle? |
| 07:57 | kf | I update them and upload to pootle |
| 07:57 | upload to pootle from time to time, updated them yesterday to test my changes to the template fles | |
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| 07:59 | fredericd | Do you remember is .js files texts were ever available in .po files? |
| 07:59 | kf | Im really not sure |
| 08:00 | I do a lot of translation work but its difficult to tell. I started this project because my colleagues and the library were complaining about the english error messages | |
| 08:00 | fredericd | It's possible that javascript were translatable when available in .tmpl files but not for .js files texts. |
| 08:01 | kf | most of the template files are ok, I checked a lot of them yesterday |
| 08:02 | I want to get rid of line breaks in translation strings, pootle adds an additional \ so you get \\n. Pootle shows \n in web interface, but after downloading its \\n | |
| 08:04 | fredericd | kf: This is another story. You should file two separate bugs. |
| 08:05 | kf | I will add another bug for the \n-case |
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| 08:07 | kf | I checked in my test installation - the js files are not translated - an example is koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/js/member.js |
| 08:10 | I m reporting it as bug now | |
| 08:12 | kmkale | kf: just for my knowledge what tools and process do you use for translation? is there some way of automating it by using a dictionary etc? |
| 08:12 | kf | fredericd: assign the bug to you? default assignee is still chris |
| 08:13 | fredericd | kf: yes, please, and CC to Chris |
| 08:13 | kf | kmkale: I use pootle and poedit, no automation. |
| 08:14 | fredericd | I can confirm that .js files were never translatable |
| 08:14 | kf | ah ok, so mark as enhancementß |
| 08:14 | kmkale | ok. Thats what I am doing. But very slow going |
| 08:15 | kf | kmkale: not sure automation can really work here. |
| 08:15 | kmkale | I can hope and ask cant I? ;) |
| 08:18 | kf | kmkale: I can understand the wish for automation very well :) |
| 08:19 | kmkale | :) |
| 08:19 | kf | bug 4503 |
| 08:19 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5, ---, frederictamil.fr, NEW, Javascript files in js directory are not translated |
| 08:19 | kf | hm should be directories... *sigh* |
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| 09:28 | kf | closing bugs is fun :) |
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| 10:32 | kf | hm, can someone tell why this does not work? |
| 10:32 | hinzufügen | |
| 10:32 | sorry, this: <input type="submit" name="submit" class="icon delete cancel" value="Cancel" onclick="return confirmDelete(_("Are you sure you want to cancel this hold?"));" /></form> | |
| 10:32 | the button works, but translation not | |
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| 11:04 | chris | hi nengard |
| 11:04 | nengard | howdy |
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| 11:08 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 11:08 | chris_n | g'morning |
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| 11:13 | chris | hi gmcharlt and chris_n |
| 11:16 | paul_p | hi chris & gmcharlt & chris_n & nengard & al |
| 11:16 | nengard | hello all |
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| 11:24 | paul_p | why Philippe Chabanon join BibLibre : http://www.biblibre.com/fr/blo[…]-rejoins-biblibre |
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| 11:27 | chris | reading now |
| 11:33 | kmkale | yikes suddenly the mailbox is crawling with bugs |
| 11:33 | * paul_p | heads to nimes server to update their setup with the 2nd iteration of their migration... |
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| 12:05 | nengard | this sucks royally: http://bit.ly/aPRPvj can we change KohaCon to this month?? :) |
| 12:09 | chilts | wow, that's not a bad deal |
| 12:09 | just come over anyway :) | |
| 12:11 | nengard | hehe |
| 12:17 | kf | my mailbox exceeded limit? |
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| 12:41 | kmkale | gmcharlt: re minimum version of Perl required to 5.8.2 I can verify make test failed on two separate machines with perl 5.8.8 both machines. On both machines I had tried pulling fron git.koha.org as well as git.koha-community.org |
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | kmkale: well, that may or may not mean a problem with the test suite or with the version of Perl |
| 12:42 | would need more information to determine if 5.8.8 is a better value for the minimum required version | |
| 12:42 | kmkale | make test ran with perl 5.10.1 |
| 12:43 | gmcharlt: I am saying oit fails with 5.8.8 so its not sutaible | |
| 12:43 | -oit +it | |
| 12:43 | gmcharlt | and I'm saying that's not enough information - we would need to know *why* the test suite fails |
| 12:44 | kmkale | humm. I had pasted it that day here and discussed with chris_n. he suggested I try newer version of perl and it worked |
| 12:44 | dunno if we can retrieve that paste of make test errors | |
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| 12:47 | kf | another translation problem :) confirmation messages in opac are not translated, can someone see what the problem is? |
| 12:47 | <input type="submit" name="submit" class="icon delete cancel" value="Cancel" onclick="return confirmDelete(_('Are you sure you want to cancel this hold?'));" | |
| 12:51 | hdl | seems that two pages are using perl 5.10 |
| 12:51 | given when | |
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| 12:56 | kmkale | make test "Error: "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported by the C4::Circulation module" |
| 12:56 | gmcharlt | hdl: which pages? |
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| 12:56 | jdavidb | howdy, #koha. |
| 12:57 | sekjal | morning, jdavidb |
| 12:58 | kf | morning jdavidb |
| 12:58 | hdl | gmcharlt: opac-detail.pl |
| 12:58 | uses Switch | |
| 12:59 | the second is opac-topissues.pl | |
| 12:59 | +if (C4::Context->userenv){ | |
| 12:59 | + $template->param( branchloop => GetBranchesLoop(C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'})); | |
| 12:59 | +} | |
| 12:59 | +else { | |
| 12:59 | + $template->param( branchloop => GetBranchesLoop()); | |
| 12:59 | +} | |
| 12:59 | Should take that. | |
| 13:00 | gmcharlt | hdl: Switch is a core module in 5.8.8 |
| 13:01 | I'm also missing why that snippet of opac-topissues.pl would require 5.10 | |
| 13:03 | bumping up the minimum version to 5.8.8 seems reasonable to me, and I'm not necessarily opposed to going as high as 5.10, but the latter woudl have to be proposed and discussed on koha-devel | |
| 13:04 | hdl | gmcharlt: no opac-topissues.pl doesnot require 5.10 |
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| 13:34 | ccurry | Hello all. I'm having trouble getting the cleanup_database.pl script to automate. I logged in as koha and typed crontab -e, saved and was informed that a new crontab had been installed. I ran the script manually as koha and it worked perfectly. Here is my crontab: http://pastebin.com/YVKSKWXH & here is my syslog: "May 14 03:00:01 eucalyptus /USR/SBIN/CRON[18532]: (koha) CMD (perl... |
| 13:34 | .../usr/local/src/kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl -v --sessions --zebraqueue 10>>/var/log/koha/cleanup_database.log)" Anyone know why I still have rows in my zebra queue table older than 10 days? | |
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| 13:53 | hdl | ccurry: --zebraqueue 10 >>/var/log.... |
| 13:53 | 10>> is not correct | |
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| 14:14 | ccurry | hdl: the ">>" part specifically? I tried it with the command ending at "10" and I added ">>/var/log/koha/cleanup_database.log" so I could see the output. No output is being created, of course. |
| 14:15 | I created the log file, of course. | |
| 14:15 | I wanted it to continue to log the activity, rather than overwrite the file every time, hence the ">>" | |
| 14:16 | hdl: sorry for the delayed response. I was away from my desk. | |
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| 14:18 | gmcharlt | ccurry: there needs to be a space |
| 14:18 | 10 >> | |
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| 14:24 | ccurry | gmcharlt: ah...but this doesn't explain why the command didn't run when I wasn't using the logging. Can you tell if I missed anything else in the cron setup? |
| 14:26 | Thanks, btw, gmcharlt & hdl. I have thick head today, I guess. | |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]st/280054428.html |
| 14:39 | chris_n | *grumble* |
| 14:39 | paul_p | chris_n what kind of grumble ? |
| 14:40 | * paul_p | can't decide how to understand this blog post... |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | we're in disarray, apparently |
| 14:41 | paul_p | wizzyrea, you're disarrayed too ? |
| 14:42 | * paul_p | thought it was my english... |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | some people would contend that I'm always in disarray ;) |
| 14:42 | disarray = mess | |
| 14:42 | afk a minute | |
| 14:43 | chris_n | paul_p: a grumble at those who seem to know exactly what our problem is and what we should do, but are in no other way involved |
| 14:44 | paul_p | so you think he's wrong blogging this ? |
| 14:44 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt i have commented |
| 14:45 | paul_p I only think one point is wrong - and that's the 'disarray' part | |
| 14:45 | chris_n | I think it is yet another opinion which appears to me to lend credence to the ptfs koha vs community koha thought |
| 14:45 | nengard | as I stated in my comment |
| 14:46 | * chris_n | wonders if it would help mitigate this thought by having every vendor do a Vendor-X koha release |
| 14:47 | nengard | chris_n the problem is with the word 'release' |
| 14:47 | we have a 'release manager' for a reason | |
| 14:47 | I liked gmcharlt's post | |
| 14:47 | on that topic | |
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| 14:50 | libtek | Wondering if anyone knows how to resolve koha installation issue. I'm at the end of building Koha 3, and the last line in ubuntu fails. I type "sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml &", and I get the message "sudo: zebrasrv?: command not found". Any ideas what to do? |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | or we could define a set of rules: only posted on your site, never labeled as an official release |
| 14:51 | can you do a which zebrasrv? | |
| 14:51 | chris_n | only if there is a whole herd of them :) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | you probably need the full path, since your koha user probably doesn't have default paths defined |
| 14:52 | libtek | wizzyrea: I'm still new to ubuntu and koha. Can you explain? |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | well |
| 14:53 | what that command does | |
| 14:53 | bgkriegel | libtek: what version of ubuntu? |
| 14:53 | libtek | wizzrea: I'm having trouble even finding where zebrasrv is |
| 14:53 | wizzrea: 9.10 | |
| 14:54 | chris_n | libtek: you can also do: 'sudo updatedb' and then 'locate zebrasrv' |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | is says "substitute user Koha wants to run zebrasrv" |
| 14:55 | but apparently user koha doesn't know where zebrasrv is | |
| 14:56 | so do what chris said | |
| 14:56 | sudo updatedb | |
| 14:56 | locate zebrasrv | |
| 14:56 | bgkriegel | libtek: is zebra zebra? on Ubuntu 9.10 do "sudo apt-get install idzebra-2.0" |
| 14:56 | sorry, is zebra installed? | |
| 14:59 | libtek | According to my instructions, I entered "sudo aptitude install yaz idzebra idzebra-2.0-doc". When I enter "locate zebrasrv" I get "/usr/share/doc/idzebra-2.0-doc/idzebra-2.0/zebrasrv.html" |
| 15:02 | chris_n | libtek: zebra is not installed in that case I think |
| 15:02 | you need to do what bgkriegel said | |
| 15:02 | libtek | Okay. I'll give that a try |
| 15:02 | bgkriegel | libtek: the virtual package is idezebra-2.0, if you do apt-get install idzebra you got an error message |
| 15:05 | chris_n | libtek: to head off another potential issue: you should *not* run the zebraqueue daemon |
| 15:06 | libtek | Thanks for the heads up on that. I am trying the install with idzebra-2.0 rather than just idzebra. So far, looks good. |
| 15:07 | bgkriegel | chris_n: why not run zebraqueue? |
| 15:07 | libtek | That worked. It's working on it now. Thank you everyone for your help! |
| 15:09 | chris_n | bgkriegel: it has been deprecated due to memory leaks |
| 15:09 | the current recommendation is a cronjob using rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 15:10 | bgkriegel | Ok then, this info must be updated on the READMEs |
| 15:11 | I have zebraqueue running and a cronjob to rebuild.. | |
| 15:15 | paul_p | hey, seems I missed what nengard pointed (in roy blog post) : there is no disarray in koha community. Just a fork, and the forker having koha.org ! |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | hehe forker |
| 15:15 | hey forker, give us back our domain! | |
| 15:16 | * wizzyrea | giggles... that's terribly inappropriate |
| 15:16 | chris_n | forker it over... now |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | chris_n: |
| 15:17 | this is a very slippery slope, leading to uncontrollable giggling | |
| 15:17 | chris_n | and its friday too |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | oh, right, I forgot |
| 15:18 | all bets are off in that case | |
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| 15:59 | kf | jacmins: around? |
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| 16:08 | jcamins | kf: Sorry about the delay. I was bumped and didn't notice. But, yes (assuming you mean jcamins...). |
| 16:09 | kf | jcamins: yes :) I finally started work on xslt today, I added a bug 4506 |
| 16:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischerbsz-bw.de, NEW, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w |
| 16:10 | kf | jcamins: I saw your bug about analytics and printed the paper, will read at the weekend, but I think it touches the same things |
| 16:11 | ok, time for weekend now :) bye koha! | |
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| 16:13 | chris_n | gmcharlt, hdl: re: code using switch... switch is deprecated in 5.10 so we should probably re-factor code that uses it (in 3.4 at least) |
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| 16:22 | nengard is now known as nengard_lunch | |
| 16:22 | jdavidb | a flashmob of wizzyreas? Wait, there's more than one? |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | chris_n: http://perldoc.perl.org/Switch.html seems to imply that Switch is a core module for 5.12 |
| 16:24 | chris_n | gmcharlt: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlde[…]html#Deprecations |
| 16:25 | especially this: "Switch is buggy and should be avoided. You may find Perl's new given /when feature a suitable replacement. See "Switch statements" in perlsyn for more information." | |
| 16:25 | gmcharlt | ah, ok |
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| 16:29 | chris_n | heya Colin |
| 16:30 | Colin | Hi |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea_mob | omg |
| 16:30 | so many of me | |
| 16:30 | I'm getting confused! | |
| 16:31 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea_mob: just don't start arguing with yourself |
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| 16:31 | * jdavidb | thinks extra wizzyreas would be a good thing to have around. |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea_mob | gmcharlt: yea, I agree, that would probably be ugly for all involved |
| 16:33 | * wizzyrea_mob | is feeling a bit like nemo's dad inside the whale these days |
| 16:43 | paul_p | git moved to koha-community.org. Only ML need to be moved now isn't it ? we (BibLibre) will try to work on that next week |
| 16:46 | bye world. Time for week-end for frenchies ! | |
| 16:46 | see you on monday | |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea_mob | bye paul_p |
| 16:47 | paul_p | one of our server just started running a 1 200 000 items migration ! |
| 16:48 | chris_n | bye paul_p |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea_mob | well when sean gets here, we should shower him with hugs. |
| 16:49 | * wizzyrea_mob | hugs jdavidb and jwagner |
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| 16:49 | nengard_lunch is now known as nengard | |
| 16:49 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:50 | jdavidb | :) thanks, Liz. |
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| 16:50 | jdavidb | dbirmingham and cfouts and I all think Sean is pretty great! He's certainly cut out a lot of the chaos that was our lives in development. |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea_mob | we should get them in here too :) |
| 16:51 | I have lots of hugs to hand out. | |
| 16:52 | jdavidb | I keep trying. dbirmingham is my office-mate, so he at least knows what's going on. |
| 16:55 | * wizzyrea_mob | is impressed by the size of paul_p's migration |
| 16:55 | joetho | size matters |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea_mob | oh hi joetho |
| 16:56 | NExpress isn't quite to 1 million yet | |
| 16:56 | 650k | |
| 16:56 | joetho | <--440k |
| 16:56 | a consortium-wide inventory would probably reduce that somewhat | |
| 16:57 | like HALF | |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea_mob | !! |
| 16:58 | nengard | waasn't there another library with 1million? |
| 16:58 | a few years ago - i thought chris was telling me about one | |
| 16:59 | gmcharlt | technically speaking, biblios.net is essentially a Koha database with 30 million bibs |
| 16:59 | no circulation transactions in it, of course | |
| 17:00 | nengard | nope it's not biblios - it was some government library - i thought -but i might just be creating false memories :) |
| 17:02 | libtek | Okay. I'm stuck again. On my Koha/Ubuntu install, I am trying to browse the apache server (http://[servername]:8080/) to answer some questions for the install. I just get a "The webpage cannot be found" error. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea_mob | have you restarted apache? |
| 17:05 | apache2ctl restart | |
| 17:09 | libtek | Yes. I tried both "sudo apache2ctl restart" and "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea_mob | that's not the actual name of the server? |
| 17:11 | you're not actually trying to browse to http://[servername]:8080/ | |
| 17:11 | you are substituting your server name for [servername] right? | |
| 17:11 | libtek | I can get the default "It works!" page if I don't add the port 8080, but since then I've disabled that default site and ensured that the koha site was enabled. |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea_mob | ok, it sounds like your virtual hosts are messed up |
| 17:12 | libtek | I am not typing [servername]. I am at my computer in the browser and I actually am typing the IP address for that server. |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea_mob | k good, sorry I know that sounds like a condescending question, it wasn't meant to be |
| 17:13 | we get all skill levels here :) | |
| 17:14 | jdavidb | oooo...sean just asked me for the URL to get here! |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea_mob | http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]z&channel=%23koha |
| 17:14 | libtek | that's ok |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea_mob | if I were at my normal computer, libtek, I could probalby help you more |
| 17:15 | :/ | |
| 17:16 | chris_n | libtek: can you paste your koha-httpd.conf to paste.workbuffer.org? |
| 17:18 | libtek | I've never used that before. I'm not sure how to get the file off the ubuntu server. I am really green with ubuntu. I'd copy it to a flash drive if I knew how, or I'd do it straight from the server if I knew how. Sorry. It's rough starting out. |
| 17:19 | chris_n | np, do you have ssh access to the server? |
| 17:19 | libtek | No clue. :/ |
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| 17:20 | chris_n | one step back then: how did you get koha installed? |
| 17:20 | smcintyre | Hello everyone! |
| 17:20 | * jdavidb | proudly introduces his boss, smcintyre, to his friends and colleagues in #koha. |
| 17:20 | chris_n | heya smcintyre |
| 17:20 | * wizzyrea_mob | waves |
| 17:20 | collum | hi smcintyre |
| 17:21 | Colin | Hi Sean |
| 17:21 | smcintyre | waves back to everyone |
| 17:21 | * wizzyrea_mob | would hug you, but we just met |
| 17:21 | jdavidb | Would I be out of line calling for Roll Call, so Sean knows where you're from and all? |
| 17:21 | libtek | chris_n: I am following the instructions via wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy. |
| 17:21 | smcintyre | smiles |
| 17:22 | * wizzyrea_mob | <- Liz Rea, NEKLS |
| 17:22 | smcintyre | hi Liz |
| 17:22 | always happy to meet a customer | |
| 17:22 | chris_n | libtek: you might want to read up on setting up openssh-server on your ubuntu box |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea_mob | :) |
| 17:22 | libtek: apt-get install ssh should do it :P | |
| 17:22 | chris_n | libtek: that will make your life much easier |
| 17:23 | * collum | is Garry Collum, Kenton County Public Library, kibitzing atm |
| 17:23 | smcintyre | hi Garry |
| 17:23 | chris_n | libtek: if your desktop is windows, you can use putty to connect to your server |
| 17:23 | libtek: if it's *nix, then just ssh | |
| 17:24 | chris_n: as wizzyrea_mob says, its probably a problem with your virtual host setup | |
| 17:24 | smcintyre | Let me apologize in advance to the LibLime customers, I am not familiar with all of our customers, so I may not recognize you as such, you may need to remind me... |
| 17:24 | chris_n | but we'd need to see koha-httpd.conf to be of much help |
| 17:25 | libtek | okay, I just "sudo apt-get install ssh". Looks like it did its thing. |
| 17:25 | now I need putty on my computer? | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea_mob | http://www.putty.org/ |
| 17:26 | chris_n | http://putty.very.rulez.org/download.html |
| 17:26 | heh | |
| 17:26 | libtek: also get pscp.exe as well | |
| 17:26 | sekjal | hi, smcintyre. welcome! |
| 17:26 | * sekjal | is Ian Walls, ByWater Solutions |
| 17:26 | smcintyre | hello Ian! |
| 17:26 | chris_n | and put both in your system32 folder or add the path to their location to the PATH envar |
| 17:27 | libtek: you may also want to do something like 'sudo apt-get install vim' | |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea_mob | yikes chris_n |
| 17:27 | gmcharlt | hi smcintyre |
| 17:27 | * wizzyrea_mob | would only ever suggest nano |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea_mob | lol |
| 17:27 | for a beginner :P | |
| 17:27 | chris_n | vim++ |
| 17:28 | smcintyre | hello gmcharlt |
| 17:28 | libtek | got it |
| 17:28 | chris_n | wizzyrea_mob: awww.... just come on in the deep end |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea_mob | *beginner* |
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| 17:29 | wizzyrea_mob | no need to make it worse (lol) |
| 17:29 | cait | hi all |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea_mob | hi cait |
| 17:29 | chris | hi smcintyre |
| 17:29 | heya cait | |
| 17:29 | * jdavidb | waves happily to cait, and introduces her to his boss, smcintyre, who just entered the channel a few minutes ago. |
| 17:29 | cait | smcintyre: hi and welcome :) |
| 17:30 | smcintyre | hi Chris |
| 17:30 | hi cait | |
| 17:30 | * cait | smiles and waves back to jdavidb |
| 17:32 | libtek | okay. I have logged into the server via putty/ssh. |
| 17:32 | It is saying a system restar required. | |
| 17:32 | restart | |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea_mob | that's fine |
| 17:33 | cait | wizzyrea: mob? |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea_mob | kind of mobile, I'm here through mibbit |
| 17:33 | chris_n | == many wizzyreas |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea_mob | I left my laptop at home and needed to have contact with my pals :P |
| 17:33 | and am not at my normal computer | |
| 17:33 | chris_n | libtek: what type of koha install did you do? ie. standard, dev, single |
| 17:33 | cait | ah, mobile. :) I had other associations |
| 17:34 | libtek | I pressed enter for the default, which I believe was standard |
| 17:35 | chris_n | libtek: ok, then either 'vim /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf' or 'nano /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf' depending on your preference |
| 17:36 | libtek | chris_n: okay done |
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| 17:38 | chris_n | libtek: select the contents of the putty screen (you may want to maximize first) then head over to paste.workbuffer.org and paste it in; no need to do a copy in the putty screen btw |
| 17:42 | libtek | chris_n: Okay. Do I fill out parts 1-3 and then paste it? |
| 17:43 | chris_n | right |
| 17:43 | pastebot | "libtek" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "copy of koha-httpd.conf" (72 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/5 |
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| 17:44 | libtek | chris_n: Interesting tool |
| 17:44 | chris | i still need to fix the fact that nat confuses it |
| 17:44 | but other than that, it works great | |
| 17:46 | libtek | chris_n: I've made no alterations to this file. This is how it came. |
| 17:46 | chris_n | libtek: so does ubuntu01 resolve to the correct ip for this box? |
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| 17:47 | chris_n | opps |
| 17:48 | libtek | chris_n: no. We are not involving a DNS at this point. I am strictly testing and going by IP at this point. |
| 17:48 | chris_n | libtek: we need to change the loopback address to the network interface ip |
| 17:49 | then restart apache | |
| 17:49 | then try | |
| 17:50 | libtek | chris_n: so should I replace ubuntu01 with the IP address of the ubuntu box then, for all instances? |
| 17:50 | chris_n: or localhost? | |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea_mob | yep |
| 17:50 | chris_n | yes to both |
| 17:50 | not localhost | |
| 17:50 | but also the virtualhost ip | |
| 17:50 | libtek | okay. I'll do that right now. |
| 17:51 | chris_n | so ServerName and VirtualHost |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea_mob | then reload apache |
| 17:51 | chris_n | and be sure to get the port in there for now |
| 17:51 | tag_team_tech_support++ | |
| 17:51 | * wizzyrea_mob | high-fives chris_n |
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| 17:54 | libtek | chris_n: The port is already listed with VirtualHost. Should it be with ServerName too? |
| 17:56 | chris_n | I believe so |
| 17:57 | libtek | production mode - trapped fatal error |
| 17:57 | production mode - trapped fatal error | |
| 17:57 | chris_n:I didn't, but it seems to work. If I browse just the IP, I get the catalog. :) However, when I go to port 8080, I get this message: " | |
| 17:57 | Sorry, paste doesn't work here. :/ | |
| 17:58 | chris_n | you need to include the port on at least the ServerName entry for your 8080 instance |
| 17:59 | libtek | chris_n: At least now the site is responding. That's something. Now, I just have to figure out why I am getting this error. |
| 17:59 | chris_n | libtek: what error message are you getting? |
| 17:59 | libtek | chris_n: production mode - trapped fatal error |
| 18:00 | chris | the error logs will help with that |
| 18:00 | dollars for donuts its a missing perl module, or it cant connect to the db | |
| 18:02 | libtek | chris: would the logs be in the /build/koha-3.00.02/errors directory? |
| 18:03 | chris | nope, the main apache2 error log will be in |
| 18:03 | /var/log/apache2 | |
| 18:04 | and the koha specific ones are most likely in /usr/share/koha/var/log/ | |
| 18:05 | libtek | chris: nothing in error.log. I will check the koha specific ones now. |
| 18:09 | chris: the only directories under /usr/share/koha are bin, doc, intranet, lib, man, misc, and opac. no var. | |
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| 18:11 | chris | theres no /var/log/koha either? |
| 18:11 | actually your koha-httpd.conf will tell you where they are logging | |
| 18:12 | chris_n | libtek: looks like /var/log/koha |
| 18:12 | chris | cool |
| 18:13 | my isn't functioning good yet, its only 6.15am so i still have the dumb | |
| 18:14 | * chris_n | hand chris coffee |
| 18:14 | chris_n | we need to teach munin to make coffee |
| 18:14 | libtek | yep, that's the one. It is showing tons of errors. :/ UGH! |
| 18:15 | chris_n | paste.workbuffer.org is your friend |
| 18:15 | libtek | I'll past the last attempt |
| 18:19 | pastebot | "libtek" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "part of koha-err_log" (26 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/6 |
| 18:20 | libtek | looks like it can't find tables |
| 18:21 | chris_n | libtek: did the webinstaller run without incident? |
| 18:22 | chris | yeah it wont be able to until the web installer has run, you should be being directed to that on the staff interface |
| 18:23 | chris_n | is that the bottom of the log? |
| 18:24 | libtek | no. Had trouble copying. I could only copy so much at a time, then when I tried to scroll down for more, I kept loosing my place. The lines are too similar, and hard to track when scrolling in the editors. There is a lot more. |
| 18:24 | chris_n | what are the bottom two lines? |
| 18:25 | use this 'tail /var/log/koha/koha-error_log | |
| 18:26 | libtek | The only issue I noted when following the instructions was when I installed libssl0.9.7. I had to replace the i386 references with amd64 references. |
| 18:27 | pastebot | "libtek" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "bottom two lines of errors" (3 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/7 |
| 18:27 | chris_n | and there is nothing in the /var/log/apache2/error.log file? |
| 18:29 | libtek | not since we restarted the server with the correct host ips. |
| 18:31 | I'm wondering if this could be because of my installing on Ubuntu 9.10, or maybe that I have perl 5.10. There were warnings in the instructions, but I was trudging ahead since there were 9.10 instructions included. | |
| 18:31 | chris_n | nope |
| 18:32 | libtek | strictly a db issue? |
| 18:32 | * chris_n | does Koha development on 64bit Lucid |
| 18:32 | chris_n | sounds like a permission problem, although I'm not sure how atm |
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| 18:35 | chris_n | libtek: were any perl modules noted missing when you ran Makefile.PL? |
| 18:36 | and what do the permissions look like on /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/install.pl | |
| 18:38 | libtek | Not sure. Most of that flies by so fast, it's hard to catch, or I don't know what's normal for the install. The instructions did not that I would recieve some errors during the make test, and they could be ignored. So, I may have just ignored what I saw as errors. |
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| 18:39 | chris_n | do this and post the result: 'ls -l /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/install.pl' |
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| 18:40 | chris_n | libtek: also, what version of Koha is this? (I missed that earlier) |
| 18:41 | libtek | -rwxr-xr-x 1 koha koha 18711 2009-06-03 07:24 /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/install.pl |
| 18:41 | version 3.00.02 | |
| 18:42 | chris_n | that looks ok |
| 18:42 | libtek | If there are versions of ubuntu and koha I would be better off with for beginning, I'm all for it. |
| 18:42 | chris_n | so lets re-run 'perl Makefile.PL' and see if it complains about missing modules |
| 18:43 | this should work just fine | |
| 18:43 | libtek | ok. I appreciate the help, by the way. Your time has helped a lot. |
| 18:43 | Let me get to the right page.... | |
| 18:43 | okay | |
| 18:44 | starting it now... | |
| 18:44 | chris_n | glad to help |
| 18:44 | libtek: you can just accept the defaults as we will not be 'making' again | |
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| 18:49 | libtek | I'm at the place where it wants the name of the user that owns the database. I was instructed to use something other than the user name and password given in the creation of the MySQL database. So I assume I use the same name that I used when I created the db, right? |
| 18:49 | chris_n | you can just accept the defaults on this run |
| 18:49 | libtek | okay |
| 18:49 | chris_n | the results will have no effect on your current install |
| 18:51 | libtek | I defaulted to the grs1 authorities indexing mode. Originally I used dom as the instructions suggested. |
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| 18:51 | mle | : ) |
| 18:52 | libtek | chris_n: okay, it's done. |
| 18:52 | chris_n | did it complain about missing modules? |
| 18:52 | libtek | no |
| 18:52 | chris_n | hmmm |
| 18:52 | chris | ok, tail -f the error koha-error_log |
| 18:52 | libtek | Wait |
| 18:53 | reverse that | |
| 18:53 | chris | (dont do the make, make install etc) |
| 18:53 | * chris_n | hangs on the edge of his desk |
| 18:53 | libtek | Makefile.PL: Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml 4.2 not found. |
| 18:53 | * chris_n | thought that might be the case |
| 18:53 | * mle | awards RP karma to chris_n : ) |
| 18:53 | chris_n | bingo |
| 18:54 | mle:? | |
| 18:54 | mle | sorryu |
| 18:55 | chris_n just nice image of you hanging on your desk. | |
| 18:55 | chris_n | ahh :) |
| 18:55 | * mle | thinks that there is not enough roleplaying in chans |
| 18:55 | chris_n | libtek: so we need to install that module |
| 18:55 | om | |
| 18:56 | do this: 'sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl' | |
| 18:56 | libtek | ok...did I miss it somehow, or did things just change enough since the instructions that it got missed? |
| 18:56 | chris_n | no, it complained the first time you ran it as well |
| 18:57 | you were probably just suffering information overload at the time ;-) | |
| 18:57 | but which instructions are you using? | |
| 18:57 | libtek | okay, working on it. Done |
| 18:57 | chris_n | now hit the staff client and see what happens |
| 18:58 | libtek | wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy |
| 18:58 | Radiant beams of light have decended upon your head! | |
| 18:58 | The form came up! | |
| 18:59 | * mle | is curious as why Ubuntu, but is here to learn not troll. |
| 18:59 | chris_n | INSTALL.ubuntu might have been better |
| 18:59 | mle | libtek: lol |
| 18:59 | chris | yeah don't use that wiki anymore is a good rule of thumb |
| 18:59 | wiki.koha-community.org has more up to date info | |
| 18:59 | chris_n | mle: ubuntu is cousin to debian |
| 18:59 | mle | : ) yes I am on Debian |
| 18:59 | chris_n | debian is the platform used by most Koha developers |
| 18:59 | libtek | I went to what I was lead to in my search for installation instructions. :) |
| 18:59 | chris | and yep, the INSTALL files with the tarball or in the git repo are the best bet |
| 19:00 | mle | chris_n oh that is wonderful news. :) |
| 19:00 | libtek | Can you point me to a specific URL for a good install document? Not that I ever want to have to go through this again. |
| 19:00 | :) | |
| 19:01 | chris and chris_n, thank you SO MUCH for helping me out. By the way, my name is Christopher. :) LOL | |
| 19:01 | chris | so is mine |
| 19:01 | :) | |
| 19:01 | and so is chris_n :) | |
| 19:01 | chris_n | libtek: nice name |
| 19:01 | and no problem on the help | |
| 19:02 | just be sure to send any great Koha code you come up with back our way :) | |
| 19:03 | mle | I have a lot of updates to do. but I dont want to distrub the koha install. I am looking to see if I can get Debian to just do the security updates. tips? |
| 19:03 | chris_n | obviously you cannot have too many chris's ;-) |
| 19:03 | libtek | Well, if we decide to go with this, I'm sure I might come up with something. Our consortium has a year to shop around for an alternative ILS. We are being priced out of our current situation. |
| 19:04 | chris_n | libtek: well, you see just how much installation support costs :) |
| 19:04 | libtek | :) |
| 19:04 | chris_n | I'm not sure you can get priced out of that one |
| 19:05 | * chris_n | has to get back to labeling a new set of DLT tapes |
| 19:05 | mle | apt-get upgrade -s shows two held back packages. : / pazpar2 yaz |
| 19:05 | libtek | Thanks again! |
| 19:05 | mle | enjoy the labeling :) |
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| 19:08 | libtek | chris_n: one last question. If I want to change the user name and password from kohaadmin and katikoan, where do I find those to change them? |
| 19:08 | chris | koha-conf.xml |
| 19:09 | now those are the ones used to connect to the db | |
| 19:09 | so you need to change that too | |
| 19:09 | and then ... make a staff user, give it superlibrarian | |
| 19:09 | and never log in with that user again | |
| 19:09 | ie, you shouldnt run koha as that user .. you should make a proper user | |
| 19:10 | chris_n | libtek: you also have to change them in the db |
| 19:10 | opps | |
| 19:10 | libtek | yeah, I set up those with custom credentials when I created the mySQL db. So, I need to make sure Koha has those credentials. |
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| 19:10 | chris | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x5468 |
| 19:11 | libtek | Ugh! Getting ahead of me. I just have to get my credentials lined up again first, then I'll work on the staff user. When I learn how. :) |
| 19:12 | chris | its all in the manual :) |
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| 19:19 | cait | @roulette |
| 19:19 | munin | cait: *click* |
| 19:19 | cait | @games |
| 19:19 | munin | cait: Error: "games" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19 | cait | @game |
| 19:19 | munin | cait: Error: "game" is not a valid command. |
| 19:20 | cait | @roulette |
| 19:20 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 19:20 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 19:20 | cait | munin: ok, I get it, you dont want to play with me... *sniffs* |
| 19:20 | munin | cait: Error: "ok," is not a valid command. |
| 19:23 | chris | @list games |
| 19:23 | munin | chris: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 19:23 | chris | @eightball should i take my 3 year old son to the food show? |
| 19:23 | munin | chris: You're kidding, right? |
| 19:23 | chris | well played munin |
| 19:26 | mle | chris I wanted to say that I liked the way you did the logbot page. neat |
| 19:27 | @eightball more beer | |
| 19:27 | munin | mle: It is possible. |
| 19:27 | mle | munin: ty |
| 19:27 | munin | mle: Error: "ty" is not a valid command. |
| 19:27 | mle | lolo |
| 19:27 | @lart munin | |
| 19:27 | munin | mle: Error: There are no larts in my database for #koha. |
| 19:28 | mle | i am sorry to hear the munin. larts are useful things |
| 19:29 | cait | @eightball rain tomorrow? |
| 19:29 | munin | cait: No clue. |
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| 19:30 | joetho | @eightball will my daughter arrive in kansas by midnite? |
| 19:30 | munin | joetho: Obviously. |
| 19:30 | joetho | whoa |
| 19:30 | she is driving from San ANtonio | |
| 19:31 | thru austin | |
| 19:31 | thru dallas | |
| 19:31 | cait | @eightball will I finish xslt changes next week? |
| 19:31 | munin | cait: About as likely as pigs flying. |
| 19:31 | chris | thats like 8 million miles or something isnt it |
| 19:31 | cait: he knows you too well :-) | |
| 19:31 | cait | munin does not like me :( |
| 19:31 | munin | cait: Error: "does" is not a valid command. |
| 19:32 | cait | or he just know more about next week than I do |
| 19:32 | chris | :-) |
| 19:32 | joetho | @eightball will my daughter stop and play on the way? |
| 19:32 | munin | joetho: The answer is certainly yes. |
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| 19:35 | chris | http://ht.ly/1Le8r <--sekjals talk at code4lib |
| 19:37 | @later tell tomascohen i got your patch, will apply and then send on up to koha-patcheslists.koha.org |
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| 19:37 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:37 | cait | chris: did you see the new german article about koha? |
| 19:38 | chris | another linux-pro.de one? |
| 19:38 | cait | yes |
| 19:38 | chris | yep, google translate didnt do a very good job on it |
| 19:38 | but i think it was about harley?? | |
| 19:38 | cait | it was |
| 19:39 | mostly about the features | |
| 19:39 | chris | you saw the integration page eh? |
| 19:39 | http://koha-community.org/inte[…]to-mainline-koha/ | |
| 19:40 | cait | of course I did, you cant miss it |
| 19:40 | chris | :) |
| 19:44 | sekjal | hey, thanks for the link, chris! I had forgotten the presentation was videoed |
| 19:46 | cait | thank god mine was not |
| 19:47 | mle | uho koha just fell over |
| 19:48 | seems like point release changes have still b0rked the service. sigh. | |
| 19:52 | @eightball Should I switch to Redbull? | |
| 19:52 | munin | mle: It shall be. |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Does anyone know... will bad things happen if I run rebuild_zebra.pl -r -a -b without disabling cron? |
| 20:05 | cait | I hope not, did that today |
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| 20:05 | jcamins | Good. |
| 20:06 | Thanks. | |
| 20:07 | cait | jcamins: that was not an answer :) |
| 20:07 | chris | cait: just sent a patch from tomas .. that adds links to the marc21 docs for each field |
| 20:07 | in the addbiblio screen | |
| 20:07 | thought you might find it handy | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | cait: I know, but it was an indication of solidarity. :-) |
| 20:08 | cait | ah ok :) |
| 20:08 | chris | jcamins: should be fine, ive done it plenty |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 20:10 | cait | chris: not sure, my libarians will want me to translate the marc21 docs for them... |
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| 20:11 | chris | well its a link to LOC |
| 20:11 | so its LOC's problem :-) | |
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| 20:14 | cait | there is a German translation, but only pdf |
| 20:14 | libtek | chris_n: Are you still there/ |
| 20:14 | ? | |
| 20:15 | chris: are you there? | |
| 20:15 | chris_n | back for a moment libtek |
| 20:16 | chris | yeah for a little bit more before i take the kids out for the day |
| 20:17 | libtek | chris_n: Everything is going great so far. However, I have to now configure and start zebra. The wiki info shows that I need to enter: sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml. It doesn't seem to like the -f switch. Any suggestions? |
| 20:18 | chris_n | libtek: take a look at INSTALL.ubuntu |
| 20:19 | you need to use the init.d script | |
| 20:19 | libtek | chris_n: You mentioned that before, but we got sidetracked. Is this a file, or a site? |
| 20:19 | chris_n | that's a file |
| 20:20 | it should be in the root of the koha install files | |
| 20:20 | libtek | got it. thanks again. |
| 20:20 | chris_n | same place as Makefile.PL |
| 20:20 | great | |
| 20:21 | libtek | no ubuntu though. There are different distros like debian though. |
| 20:22 | chris_n | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0663;hb=HEAD#l266 |
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| 20:23 | chris_n | you want option #2 |
| 20:23 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 20:23 | libtek | Okay. Thanks once again! |
| 20:24 | chris_n | you can 'locate koha-zebra-ctl.sh' to find it if you need to |
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| 20:40 | chris | hey nengard, hows the vomit? |
| 20:40 | http://www.web2learning.net/ar[…]ves/3848#comments | |
| 20:40 | nengard | I don't know - not sure I can keep it all down |
| 20:41 | in between the laughing | |
| 20:42 | I write an honest piece about my feelings and that's the kind of reply I get - I don't think I've ever had such a childish response and I've written some pretty nasty things over the years .... | |
| 20:42 | chris | it was fairly low |
| 20:42 | chris_n | nice IT footwork nengard |
| 20:43 | nengard | :) thanks |
| 20:43 | chris_n | ip tells it all |
| 20:43 | mle | yay. its not b0rked. :) |
| 20:43 | chris_n | whoever the poster really is just added more to their list of woes |
| 20:44 | nengard | and list of areas of tech to learn more about - open source and now privacy on the web |
| 20:44 | chris_n | lol |
| 20:45 | chris | well, if you post on someones personal blog ... you have to realise that that blog software tells them your ip |
| 20:45 | nengard | unless you've never used a blog .... |
| 20:45 | or paid attention - I'm sure I know some people with blogs who never noticed that the IP was kept | |
| 20:46 | hubby is home - must share with him ... be back shortly | |
| 20:46 | jcamins | Or don't realize that it's trivial to trace an IP. |
| 20:46 | Have a good weekend, #koha | |
| 20:46 | jcamins left #koha | |
| 20:47 | hdl | hi there. |
| 20:48 | cait | hi hdl |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | hey hdl |
| 20:49 | hdl | hi wizzyrea |
| 20:49 | sekjal left #koha | |
| 20:49 | chris | poor smcintyre, what unfortunate timing |
| 20:50 | hdl | I think I will may release the 3.0.6 tonight if I can get the xslt stuff fixed for 3.0 |
| 20:50 | libtek | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist |
| 20:50 | chris | w00t |
| 20:50 | thats awesome news hdl | |
| 20:50 | chris_n | hdl++ |
| 20:50 | joetho | post the IP |
| 20:50 | post the IP | |
| 20:50 | gmcharlt | hdl++ |
| 20:50 | joetho | post the IP |
| 20:50 | chris_n | joetho++ |
| 20:50 | mle | nengard: chris: lol ty. lots to learn about all this. useful intro. |
| 20:50 | hdl | Where should I post releas notes and download package ? |
| 20:51 | joetho | although, to smile and move on is a far better thing |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | hdl: cfouts is still accepting requests, but I also suggest uploading it to savannah as well |
| 20:51 | nengard | wasn't hubby was mommy - had to try and explain IP addresses to her :) |
| 20:51 | chris | hehe |
| 20:51 | chris_n | lol |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | and I can get you rights to edit the download page on k-c.org |
| 20:51 | libtek | chris_n: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist / I do see koha-zebra-daemon in /etc/init.d/ |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | which I think you should have anyway... |
| 20:52 | hdl | gmcharlt: are the 3.2 tarballs on savannah ? |
| 20:52 | chris_n | libtek: update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon |
| 20:52 | chris | hdl: i can put it on ohloh too |
| 20:52 | chris_n | iirc |
| 20:52 | gmcharlt | hdl: not yet - when I released the second alpha, for some reason it was taking a while to accept the SSH key I had just added |
| 20:52 | i'll try again | |
| 20:53 | hmm, no, still doesn't like my key | |
| 20:54 | libtek | chris_n: sorry, should I not do the sudo or defaults? |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | hdl: you can edit the download page at k-c.org |
| 20:54 | when you're ready | |
| 20:54 | libtek | Anyone know where I can find man 8 chkconfig? |
| 20:54 | hdl | good. |
| 20:57 | wajasu | i had done a migration of a non-marc library database to koha. i am seeing some umlaut characters in personal names as <U+ff0c>. So when I built my marc records and streamed them out as marc records, I might have needed to do some conversion. |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | nengard, the manual has a section on the OPAC, right? |
| 20:57 | wajasu | any ideas on how i should proceed to clean them up? |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | i'm looking at http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ |
| 20:58 | and wondering what we should put "For Users" | |
| 20:58 | and by users I think I mean "patrons" | |
| 20:58 | wajasu | libtek: google worked :) |
| 20:58 | chris | you mean borrowers? :) |
| 20:58 | chris_n | libtek: man chkconfig |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | maybe I mean "members" |
| 20:59 | cait | no, you mean 'benutzer' ;) |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | um... people who use the library? |
| 20:59 | chris | :) |
| 20:59 | chris_n | libtek: sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults is right |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | how about |
| 20:59 | "My library uses Koha" | |
| 20:59 | smcintyre | thanks for the nice welcome everyone, enjoy your weekends! Off to camp with the Cub Scouts... |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | ooh, fun |
| 20:59 | chris | ohh awesome |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | we'll talk to you next week man, have a great weekend |
| 20:59 | smcintyre | thanks, u2 |
| 20:59 | chris_n | ttyl smcintyre |
| 20:59 | cait | have a nice weekend :) |
| 21:00 | chris_n | camping++ |
| 21:00 | chris | introduce a koha badge :) |
| 21:00 | libtek | chris_n: yep. Something else must be broke. I got this when I did that: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist |
| 21:00 | joetho | camping with kids is dabest |
| 21:00 | smcintyre | alfs... |
| 21:00 | wajasu | DO YOUR BEST |
| 21:00 | smcintyre left #koha | |
| 21:00 | gmcharlt | http://www.boingboing.net/2010[…]it-badges-ma.html |
| 21:00 | joetho | Obey the laws of the pack! |
| 21:01 | chris_n | libtek: possibly a broken sym link? |
| 21:02 | libtek | chris_n: don't know what sym is |
| 21:02 | chris_n | ie. the 'ln -s' command was typo'd |
| 21:03 | libtek | chris_n: I had typed: sudo ln -s $/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 21:04 | wajasu | if I am seeing <U+ff0c> is it something wrong with my data int he DB? or a display decoding problem in the webpages? |
| 21:04 | chris_n | libtek: what does 'ln -l /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon' say? |
| 21:06 | mle | libtek> chris_n: I had typed: sudo ln -s $/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon - is it not the $? |
| 21:07 | chris_n | right |
| 21:07 | cait | oooh http://www.nerdmeritbadges.com/ :) |
| 21:07 | chris_n | drop the $ |
| 21:08 | libtek: 'sudo rm /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon' | |
| 21:08 | then | |
| 21:08 | sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 21:08 | mle++ | |
| 21:08 | good catch | |
| 21:08 | mle | chris_n: ty. : ) |
| 21:08 | @eightball more beer? | |
| 21:08 | munin | mle: NO! |
| 21:09 | mle | dammchoo munin |
| 21:09 | hdl | Is there any git-hooks we could/should share in order to ensure some quality ? |
| 21:09 | * chris_n | would like to see a git-hook to munin which notifies on commits to the main repo |
| 21:09 | chris_n | sort of like CIA |
| 21:09 | hdl | I have some basics. But I would be happy to see if ppl are willing to try and foo that way. |
| 21:09 | * mle | wonders which one munin is |
| 21:10 | hdl | chris_n: there once was on kohanews. |
| 21:10 | gmcharlt | hdl: propose them on the mailng list |
| 21:10 | * mle | wonders which bot munin is |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | supybot |
| 21:10 | chris_n | mle: supybot |
| 21:10 | snap | |
| 21:10 | * wizzyrea | gives chris_n the "great minds" eye |
| 21:10 | libtek | ln: invalid option -- 'l' |
| 21:10 | hdl | Will do as soon as I am satisfied enough with that. |
| 21:10 | libtek | ln: invalid option -- 'l' |
| 21:10 | mle | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:10 | libtek | ln -l /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon returns |
| 21:10 | ln: invalid option -- 'l' | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ |
| 21:10 | mle | : ) |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | have to pass that one along ;) |
| 21:11 | mle | this chan rocks |
| 21:11 | hdl | at the moment, it does the same both for template and perl files, which is not what I want. |
| 21:11 | rather not what I really would like to propose. | |
| 21:14 | chris_n | libtek: ln -s |
| 21:14 | mle | am i right in thinking fedora has git supybot notify code but debian doesnt? http://git.fedorahosted.org/gi[…]upybot-notify.git |
| 21:14 | chris_n | not l |
| 21:15 | gmcharlt | hdl: download.koha-community.org should be up and running later this evening - I'll let you know when it's ready |
| 21:15 | hdl | will not be on chan this week end. |
| 21:15 | gmcharlt | mle: I'll play around with that plugin |
| 21:16 | hdl: I'll email you then | |
| 21:16 | chris_n | I looked at that the other day |
| 21:16 | hdl | ok |
| 21:16 | gmcharlt | quick show of hands - do people want git push notifications in #koha or in a separate cahnnel? |
| 21:16 | chris_n | but it did not look too promising |
| 21:16 | #koha +1 | |
| 21:16 | cait | #koha |
| 21:16 | +1 | |
| 21:16 | libtek | <chris_n> libtek: what does 'ln -l /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon' say? |
| 21:16 | chris_n: You had asked | |
| 21:17 | chris_n | libtek: sorry... just run the ln -s without the $ |
| 21:17 | I meant to type ls -l :) | |
| 21:17 | libtek: that is *after* removing the present link | |
| 21:18 | chris | #koha is fine |
| 21:18 | mle | try #koha |
| 21:18 | libtek | ugh...sorry! |
| 21:18 | mle | if it gets annoying then shift it |
| 21:19 | libtek | chris_n: so I have to into something to remove this line? |
| 21:19 | link | |
| 21:19 | chris_n | <chris_n> libtek: 'sudo rm /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon' |
| 21:19 | <chris_n> sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 21:22 | libtek | chris_n: OKAY. (sigh) Done. Now I'll try the 'sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults' |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | the export tool doesn't delete anything |
| 21:23 | right | |
| 21:23 | ? | |
| 21:23 | it just gives you a file with your bibs/items in it, right? | |
| 21:23 | libtek | bingo |
| 21:24 | What ever happened to point and click??? It made me soft in the head apparently! | |
| 21:24 | chris_n | lol |
| 21:25 | libtek | all this because of a blasted $! |
| 21:25 | :) | |
| 21:25 | you have patience BEYOND belief. :) | |
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| 21:27 | chris | hi brendan_ |
| 21:27 | brendan_ | hi |
| 21:27 | hdl | hi brendan |
| 21:27 | brendan_ | hi hdl |
| 21:28 | chris_n | heya brendan_ with an underscore :) |
| 21:29 | brendan_ is now known as brendna | |
| 21:29 | brendna is now known as brendan_ | |
| 21:33 | joetho | @roulette |
| 21:33 | munin | joetho: *click* |
| 21:33 | joetho | @roulette |
| 21:33 | munin | joetho: *click* |
| 21:33 | joetho | @roulette |
| 21:33 | munin | joetho: *click* |
| 21:33 | joetho | @roulette |
| 21:33 | munin | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 21:33 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 21:36 | brendan_ is now known as brendan | |
| 21:37 | cait | @roulette |
| 21:37 | munin | cait: *click* |
| 21:37 | cait | @eightball go and sleep? |
| 21:37 | munin | cait: No. |
| 21:37 | cait | ok |
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| 21:51 | cait | ok, really late here - have a nice weekend all! |
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| 21:52 | wizzyrea | gnite... i'm always too slow with her. |
| 21:52 | I was going to say | |
| 21:52 | gnite cait, have a lovely weekend | |
| 21:53 | chris | hey reed |
| 21:54 | going to the food show? | |
| 21:54 | * wizzyrea | wants to go to the food show |
| 21:54 | reed | hello - looking for comments on my comments to Sean McIntyre |
| 21:54 | hey! | |
| 21:54 | batts in my keyboard just died | |
| 21:54 | chris | ahh |
| 21:55 | reed | food show? |
| 21:55 | i like food | |
| 21:55 | and shows | |
| 21:55 | chris | http://www.foodshow.co.nz/inde[…]Visit/Wellington/ |
| 21:55 | reading your email now | |
| 21:55 | reed | and wellington |
| 21:55 | chris | heh |
| 21:56 | good points reed | |
| 21:56 | nengard | agreed |
| 21:57 | reed | i want everyone to be happy and everything to be ok |
| 21:57 | nengard | agreed |
| 21:57 | :) | |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | I like happy and ok |
| 21:58 | because I'd rather go back to making jokes and helping write great software | |
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| 21:58 | wizzyrea | ok, got to go |
| 21:58 | everybody, have a wonderful (rest of your) weekend. | |
| 21:58 | reed | you too |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | don't let this drama cloud your enjoyment thereof. |
| 21:58 | :) | |
| 21:59 | reed | ok |
| 21:59 | gmcharlt | g'night wizzyrea |
| 22:00 | reed | chris, good tip - Jan and I probly will head down there once we get sorted |
| 22:01 | chris | :) |
| 22:02 | ok time to go, might bump into you | |
| 22:02 | reed | cool |
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| 22:04 | wajasu | i need to know if my db recs need fixin. I have <U+00fc> and such in biblios.author columns and <U+00fc> in biblioitems.marcxml recs. |
| 22:05 | marcxml is longtext in db, so i would expect some textual unicode format that gets decoded upon extraction by perl. | |
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| 22:08 | chris_n | nice email reed |
| 22:08 | reed | thanks |
| 22:08 | wajasu | http://pastebin.org/237152 shows my concern |
| 22:10 | i hope its not because i staged my recs instead of bulkmarcimport | |
| 22:10 | reed | wajasu, i wish i knew more about mysql utf8 handling |
| 22:11 | bgkriegel | wajasu: what is the origin of the record? it seems to be normal accents |
| 22:11 | chris_n | wajasu: I do know you have to be sure that your db and mysql and... are all setup for utf8 |
| 22:11 | wajasu | its confusing to know who is responsbile (db, perl modules). I'll dig into the perl and discern the intents myself later. |
| 22:11 | bgkriegel | if they were right |
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| 22:12 | wajasu | i checked they were set up right in mysql. in fact my distro defaults fine. |
| 22:12 | chris_n | wajasu: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad |
| 22:12 | might be of some help | |
| 22:13 | wajasu | i just read that. I'll did into. just wondered if anyone could do a query on a db like i did and see rows like me. |
| 22:14 | i'll get into it later. weekend is here. | |
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| 23:53 | hdl | So close to release. |
| 23:54 | But I must get some sleep | |
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| 23:55 | hdl | Sorry all. We will have to wait 2 days more |
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