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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | chris | probably not |
| 00:01 | we have a history of electing property developers, or ppl who have property developers as spouses | |
| 00:01 | who then do retarded things for the next 3 years | |
| 00:01 | and then we do it all again | |
| 00:01 | slef | ah, march of the asshats |
| 00:02 | reed | I learn a new word everyday |
| 00:02 | robin | reed: march? |
| 00:02 | slef | yesterday scads, today asshats |
| 00:03 | tomorrow EBW? | |
| 00:03 | I'll accept nominations | |
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| 02:29 | chris | ohh nice work |
| 02:29 | way to burn up your goodwill | |
| 02:29 | http://koha.org/ | |
| 02:30 | richard | jeepers |
| 02:32 | chris | its like they have a compulsion or something |
| 02:32 | 'what can we do to piss off the community today' | |
| 02:46 | chilts | they calling their version of Koha, Harley? |
| 02:46 | hmm | |
| 02:46 | not quite | |
| 02:46 | chris | they are passing it off as a koha release |
| 02:46 | instead of their own release | |
| 02:47 | also im pretty sure thats not how you spell maintained | |
| 02:47 | jo | I think they truly don't get it |
| 02:47 | chris | or don't want to get it |
| 02:48 | jo | maybe Kelly is some poor kid thrown in the deep end, new grad, no experience etc |
| 02:48 | chris | yeah |
| 02:48 | chilts | so their patches are from ages ago, so that's like 3.0 with some stuff, rather than wait for 3.2 |
| 02:48 | that right? | |
| 02:48 | chris | thats right |
| 02:48 | dont get me wrong there is some nice stuff in there | |
| 02:49 | jo | shouldn't the koha release manager for 3.2 issue an official; statement clarifying what Harley is and isn't? |
| 02:49 | chris | and doing their own release is all well and good |
| 02:49 | but pretending its a koha release is the problem | |
| 02:49 | jo | like its a perfectly valid and wonderful thing - but its not Koha. its lek |
| 02:49 | chilts | also, Harley _isn't_ "currently maintened [sic] by a team of software providers and library technology staff from around the world" |
| 02:49 | chris | its not lek jo |
| 02:49 | there is none of lek code in it | |
| 02:49 | jo | well whatever it is it isn't koha |
| 02:49 | chris | this is old ptfs code |
| 02:49 | chilts | jo: good idea, it needs to be clarified |
| 02:50 | jo | its noty an official koha release is what i mean |
| 02:50 | chris | *nod* |
| 02:50 | mind you, thats on not the official koha site either ;) | |
| 02:50 | chilts | and to add even more to the mix, their site _still_ sucks :) |
| 02:50 | richard | :0 |
| 02:50 | chris | it would be so much better if that just pointed to the official site |
| 02:51 | reed | so, are we sure a koha.org dispute resolution try wouldn't work? |
| 02:52 | there 3 tests and I think they would be able to keep it base on one of them which is loosely "has some legitimate use of the domain" | |
| 02:53 | chris | i think the TM would clinch it |
| 02:53 | reed | (may english is normally better than this) |
| 02:53 | you think? | |
| 02:53 | chris | yep |
| 02:53 | reed | hard to be sure |
| 02:54 | chris | getting the domain back would be nice, but i like koha-community.org better now anyway |
| 02:55 | reed | me too, except for the name |
| 02:55 | chris | yep |
| 02:55 | ptfs-- | |
| 02:56 | its like they have a need to balance anything positive with a pile of negative | |
| 02:56 | jo | I wish they could have just made the code available and then enjoyed the warmth of a grateful community |
| 02:57 | chris | *nod* |
| 02:57 | jo | given the relationship time to warm up |
| 02:58 | reed | anyhows, seems like there does need to be a community statement that this is an unsupported unofficial release by a private party |
| 02:58 | chris | you know what im sick of |
| 02:58 | reed | who's the right person to do that? |
| 02:58 | chris, what? | |
| 02:58 | chris | some ptfs clients |
| 02:58 | im not sick of them | |
| 02:58 | those are the right ppl to do this | |
| 02:58 | reed | ptfs clients? |
| 02:58 | chris | im sick of us hving to be the ppl to say these things |
| 02:58 | reed | why? |
| 02:59 | chris | cos its their code |
| 02:59 | thats being misrepresented | |
| 02:59 | reed | it wont get said otherwise |
| 02:59 | chris | yeah |
| 02:59 | and thats what im sick of | |
| 03:00 | reed | what I see is ptfs saying "here's a koha release that is community supported" |
| 03:00 | chris | yes |
| 03:00 | reed | so, it really does need to be the community that says "oh, hey, wait, wrong number dude" |
| 03:00 | chris | yes |
| 03:00 | and the community is everybody | |
| 03:00 | * chris_n | submits the final revision of his dependency centralization code |
| 03:01 | chris | anyone can make a post on the koha-community website thats the point |
| 03:01 | i just hate it having to be the same old suspects always saying it | |
| 03:01 | reed | should vendors take a lead? I don't want someone calling us up expecting to get Harley support |
| 03:01 | chris | itd be nice if users exercised their voice a bit too |
| 03:01 | not just the developers | |
| 03:02 | because we get dismissed, especially those of us who for a vendor | |
| 03:02 | thats why i appreciate people like chris_n, and owen and lee who stand up to be counted | |
| 03:02 | and of course liz and the other kansasians | |
| 03:03 | reed | some will, but most don't have time and or an understanding of the nuances and why the distinction is key |
| 03:03 | chris | yes, but i think one of us saying it, will be dismissed |
| 03:03 | the same way as our account of the conference call was dismissed | |
| 03:04 | reed | not sure I agree |
| 03:04 | one vendor is one voice tho | |
| 03:05 | it's only meaningful if others speak -- but as well and not instead of | |
| 03:05 | chris | yep, and maybe first for a change |
| 03:05 | reed | chris, you worry too much |
| 03:05 | chris | heh |
| 03:06 | richard | someone has to :0 |
| 03:06 | chris | guess im just not feeling the love this week |
| 03:06 | chris_n | ptfs needs to hire a web designer imho |
| 03:06 | reed | you need a ficshburger |
| 03:06 | * richard | wonders about the lack coordinatin between little finger and shift key |
| 03:06 | chris_n | the koha.org site looks terrible |
| 03:06 | reed | I'll be in the office tomorrow, I'll buy |
| 03:07 | chris | :) |
| 03:07 | * chris_n | will obviously have to bump the licensing thread |
| 03:07 | reed | w/beets and cheese and a perkynana thickshake |
| 03:07 | chris | hehe |
| 03:08 | do they make those? | |
| 03:08 | reed | yes |
| 03:08 | chris | we should get richard to meet us for a fishburger sometime |
| 03:08 | reed | tomorrow? |
| 03:08 | chris | do you know offbeat burgers in leftbank richard? |
| 03:08 | * richard | partial to the fishburger |
| 03:08 | richard | was just going to ask where you went |
| 03:08 | robin | reed: did I hear you saying you're buying? |
| 03:08 | :) | |
| 03:09 | reed | eh |
| 03:09 | only rangi's | |
| 03:09 | richard | never been there - i'm overwhelmed by the number of takeaways in island bay as it is |
| 03:09 | reed | i hear maranui cafe is reopening |
| 03:10 | chris | richard: we do lunches there quite often, sounds like we will be tomorrrow :) |
| 03:11 | richard | actually mightn't be able to make it tomorrow. i'm filling in for rach on some breakfast do |
| 03:11 | which will eat up quite a bit of my day | |
| 03:11 | but next week for sure | |
| 03:11 | reed | cool |
| 03:13 | chris | excellet |
| 03:13 | +n | |
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| 03:25 | chris | heya brendan |
| 03:26 | ohh and nice work on the dependencies chris_n | |
| 03:26 | chris_n++ | |
| 03:27 | brendan | heya chris |
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| 03:42 | chris | hi Amit_G |
| 03:43 | brendan | heya Amit_G |
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| 03:47 | Amit_G | heya chris, brendan |
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| 05:06 | UPL_Begz | hi all |
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| 05:42 | mason | any PTFS-ers about? |
| 05:43 | jane or david perhaps? | |
| 05:43 | me checks the time.... | |
| 05:44 | any idea what time they clock-in? | |
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| 05:58 | mason | hmm, not for another few hours.... :/ |
| 06:05 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 06:05 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (10:45 PM PDT on May 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:05 | brendan | heya mason |
| 06:13 | Amit_G | heya mason |
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| 06:17 | kmkale | Good morning all |
| 06:18 | whats the best marc tag for type of book (fiction/non fiction/romance etc)? | |
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| 06:52 | alreadygone | hi, what does this mean: make test had returned bad status, won't install without force |
| 06:53 | i'm trying to install: perl -MCPAN -e 'install ZOOM' and got: | |
| 06:53 | # Failed test 'connection to non-existent host 'no.such.host' fails' | |
| 06:53 | # at t/1-Net-Z3950-ZOOM.t line 22. | |
| 07:13 | kmkale | is 500a general note the right place for summary of the book? |
| 07:18 | robin | kmkale: there is a synopsis field, is that what you're after for a summary? |
| 07:39 | alreadygone | now I am getting: production mode - trapped fatal error |
| 07:44 | i am on Slackware 13 by the way... | |
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| 08:11 | kmkale | robin: sorry I was called away from desk. Whats the synopsis field tag no? is it displayed in opac? |
| 08:19 | is it 520a? | |
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| 08:41 | Amit_G | heya kmkale |
| 08:42 | kmkale | hi amit |
| 08:45 | alreadygone | kindly have a look: http://www.pastie.org/958343 |
| 08:49 | chris | Can't locate HTML/Template/Pro.pm |
| 08:49 | is the relevant bit you are missing that module | |
| 08:51 | alreadygone | ok, let me try to install that |
| 08:52 | chris | when you ran perl Makefile.PL |
| 08:53 | it should have listed all the missing modules | |
| 08:55 | alreadygone | Yes I saw a long list, I should have noted them then :| |
| 08:56 | is there a way to get the list of missing things again? | |
| 08:56 | chris | you can run the perl Makefile.PL again |
| 08:57 | just dont do the make, make install bits | |
| 08:57 | alreadygone | aah, cool |
| 08:57 | ok | |
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| 09:33 | chris | hi Colin |
| 09:40 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 09:43 | chris | hi chris_n |
| 09:43 | Colin | hi guys |
| 09:45 | alreadygone | \o/ it worked ! thank you very much chris |
| 09:47 | chris | no worries |
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| 10:36 | alreadygone | I am trying to save a MARC record, getting this error when trying to save: Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled : * tag 942 subfield c Item type in tab 9 |
| 10:36 | there is a drop down list on that subfield, but the list has no options to choose from! | |
| 10:37 | chris? | |
| 10:42 | chris | you need to go to admin |
| 10:42 | and then add some itemtypes | |
| 10:42 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x2875#AEN2963 | |
| 10:43 | alreadygone | thanks again chris |
| 10:43 | gmcharlt | morning |
| 10:44 | alreadygone | morning gmcharlt |
| 10:52 | chris | alreadygone: are you setting up a library for yourself? |
| 10:52 | alreadygone | yes, :) |
| 10:52 | just trying Koha to start knowing it better | |
| 10:53 | got admission in college for Library science, 1st semester | |
| 10:53 | Koha may not be discussed till 2nd semester, but I want to know about it now | |
| 10:54 | chris, here is another error for you, when I tried to "save" the record: http://www.pastie.org/958452 | |
| 10:55 | chris | that looks like a legit error .. what version of koha? |
| 10:56 | alreadygone | wait |
| 10:57 | name of zip file I used: koha-3.00.02.tar.gz | |
| 10:59 | * chris_n | heads off to the park for the day |
| 10:59 | chris_n | bbl |
| 10:59 | alreadygone | uhh ho |
| 11:02 | chris | ahhh thats a pretty old version |
| 11:03 | latest 3.0. release is 3.0.5 | |
| 11:04 | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | |
| 11:06 | alreadygone | ok, came back from the park? :) thanks, I guess I'll have to download the latest version |
| 11:09 | crap, that's a different chris | |
| 11:10 | chris | yeah thats chris n, im chris c |
| 11:10 | :) | |
| 11:11 | alreadygone | :) |
| 11:16 | chris | alreadygone: you are in pakistan? |
| 11:16 | alreadygone | yup, ran Traceroute? |
| 11:16 | chris | yup |
| 11:17 | from nz, to la, then through france to .pk | |
| 11:17 | lots of hops | |
| 11:17 | alreadygone | thousands of miles away... |
| 11:18 | how do you register nick on this network? Freenode's command does not work here. | |
| 11:19 | chris | you can't |
| 11:20 | alreadygone | so I can't get a cloak either |
| 11:20 | chris | nope |
| 11:21 | alreadygone | you have a cloak. Where did you get that from? |
| 11:22 | is it a cloak you have... or is it just not an IP, but a real address | |
| 11:22 | chris | the latter |
| 11:22 | it does a reverse dns lookup | |
| 11:22 | alreadygone | i see |
| 11:29 | what is your profession chris ? | |
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| 11:31 | chris | developer |
| 11:32 | alreadygone | ok |
| 11:36 | chris | hi jwagner |
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| 11:47 | chris | hi nengard |
| 11:47 | nengard | hiya |
| 11:47 | what a morning already | |
| 11:47 | had 2 pups with sick tummies | |
| 11:47 | and hairy pups with sick tummies leads to puppy baths | |
| 11:47 | chris | ahh yep |
| 11:47 | jwagner | morning, all |
| 11:48 | alreadygone | morning jwagner |
| 11:54 | gmcharlt | nengard: and puppy baths lead to in-house weather? |
| 11:54 | nengard | LOL yes they do |
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| 12:18 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:18 | jdavidb | howdy |
| 12:18 | Nate | morning owen, jdavidb |
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| 12:52 | gmcharlt | @bug 4444 |
| 12:52 | munin | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4444 enhancement, P5, ---, chris.nighswongergmail.com, ASSIGNED, Centralize Code Handling Perl Dependencies |
| 12:59 | alreadygone | \o/ koha 3.00.05 works great. thanks chris :) |
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| 13:07 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 13:59 | * jdavidb | waves to cait |
| 14:01 | * cait | waves to jdavidb |
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| 14:04 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:04 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2�C (4:06 PM CEST on May 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:06 | jdavidb | @wunder 20817 |
| 14:06 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 11.2�C (10:07 AM EDT on May 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Falling). |
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| 14:34 | sekjal | does anyone know what the intent is behind the "Hide My Tags" link in the patron account section of the OPAC? |
| 14:34 | is this to hide the "My Tags" section underneath the tag cloud, or to filter out your tags from the tag cloud (so you only see what others have tagged)? | |
| 14:38 | owen | I would think the latter |
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| 14:38 | owen | sekjal: Does neither happen in practice? |
| 14:39 | sekjal | owen: the former certainly does not. the latter doesn't seem to, but perhaps that because none of my tags were part of the cloud. will retest |
| 14:42 | nengard | let's take a step back and tell Nicole where this hide link is :) I don't have it documented - I don't remember ever seeing it before |
| 14:43 | sekjal | nengard: in the OPAC, under Tag Cloud, if you're logged in, there is a link "Hide My Tags" next to the Show up to X option |
| 14:44 | owen | sekjal: I can't figure out what it's doing just by trying it |
| 14:44 | It doesn't hide my approved tags and show me only other users' tags | |
| 14:44 | nengard | sekjal i think it would be so you could see what other people used as tags |
| 14:44 | owen | And my rejected tags don't show up in the cloud anyway |
| 14:45 | nengard | owen - same here |
| 14:45 | sekjal | my test patron has an approved tag that only he has used. When I click the "Hide My Tags" link, that tag is NOT filtered from the cloud |
| 14:45 | this link seems to have no effect | |
| 14:45 | nengard | that is my guess as well |
| 14:45 | owen | I notice the interface also does not change the "hide" language after it has been activated |
| 14:46 | sekjal | I think this feature may be a stub at this point |
| 14:46 | nengard | owen - but it does put a flag in the URL |
| 14:46 | sekjal | but it seems logical to say that clicking it should filter out your tags from the tag cloud |
| 14:47 | nengard | yes |
| 14:47 | sekjal | what if some else also used a tag of yours? should that tag stay or go? |
| 14:47 | nengard | i'd say stay |
| 14:47 | cause it is someone else's tag | |
| 14:48 | sekjal | I'd say go, because you can search for all your tags in the "My Tags" list below |
| 14:48 | perhaps a compromise | |
| 14:48 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:48 | sekjal | color tags of yours that others have used too in some different color |
| 14:48 | perhaps fade them | |
| 14:49 | nengard | we'd have to make it clear what was happening |
| 14:49 | or remove the link altogether - what other site offers that functionality? | |
| 14:49 | I've never seen it before | |
| 14:49 | the point of tags is to have the wisdom of the crowd and i'm part of thata crowd | |
| 14:49 | that crowd | |
| 14:49 | owen | gmcharlt++ # for http://galencharlton.com/blog/?p=45 |
| 14:50 | sekjal | I don't see it as a particularly desirable feature, but maybe someone would want the option |
| 14:50 | I haven't looked too deeply at the code to see what it would take to actually implement, though | |
| 14:50 | maybe that's why it's a stub: too hard | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 14:52 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:52 | nengard | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:53 | now I need to get ready for my presentation and then head out - see you all tonight or tomorrow | |
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| 15:05 | owen | sekjal: The "hidemytags" stuff has been in the template since 2008, but some changes to the script were made by paul_p in 2009 |
| 15:05 | sekjal | not seeming any respect for the hidemytags param anywhere in opac/opac-tags.pl |
| 15:05 | hmmm | |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | it don't get no respect. |
| 15:06 | sorry, I had to. | |
| 15:12 | owen | A girl phoned hidemytags the other day and said... Come on over, there's nobody home. hidemytags went over. Nobody was home. |
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| 15:14 | wizzyrea | owen: the opac keeps getting sexier and sexier. |
| 15:14 | I love it. | |
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| 15:19 | cait | huh? |
| 15:19 | :) | |
| 15:19 | I cant follow your conversation | |
| 15:19 | workig on javascript error message translation :) | |
| 15:20 | * collum | points cait to Rodney Dangerfield jokes. http://www.joecasaletto.com/jokes/rodney.htm |
| 15:20 | cait | thx collum! |
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| 15:30 | moodaepo | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:32 | wizzyrea | schuster++ |
| 15:52 | I wonder if we will ever do formal usability testing on koha | |
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| 15:58 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: would be nice - although that something (unless we can talk a usability graduate class into doing it) that woudl definitely require paid professionals |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 16:06 | * wizzyrea | notes that there is a major university in her town |
| 16:06 | makes another note to see if they have usability classes | |
| 16:26 | cait | hm |
| 16:26 | - var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled :\n\n"); | |
| 16:26 | + var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled :") + "\n\n"; | |
| 16:27 | I want to get the line breaks out of the strings for translation, because pootle does strange things to the \ | |
| 16:27 | but after this change the tabs in cataloging are broken | |
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| 16:48 | cait | hm solved it |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | what was it? |
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| 16:51 | cait | Im not sure, but var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled"); |
| 16:51 | StrAlert += "\n\n"; works | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | 42? |
| 16:51 | cait | its seems deklaration and concatenation of the variable dont work together? |
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| 16:59 | CGI484 | Hel |
| 17:00 | Hello! | |
| 17:00 | cait | hello CGI484 |
| 17:00 | CGI484 | I would be interested in evaluatiing the Cloud version of Koha |
| 17:01 | May I know if it is available and how much would it cost for an average group of user of about 100 people? | |
| 17:02 | cait | not sure what the cloud version of koha is? are you talking about koha express or something like that? |
| 17:03 | CGI484 | yes precisely |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | you would want to talk to them directly about that |
| 17:03 | CGI484 | Ok thank you! |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | and they are only one of several vendors who would host you in a cloud environment |
| 17:04 | http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ | |
| 17:04 | CGI484 | thank you |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | btw, that is the official koha website. |
| 17:04 | not koha.org. | |
| 17:04 | I know it's confusing | |
| 17:05 | * cait | nods |
| 17:05 | CGI484 | Do you know the difference between Koha and Liblime? |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | yes. Liblime is a support comapny that supports Koha Library Software |
| 17:05 | Koha is the software they are using | |
| 17:06 | and http://koha-community.org is the website of the project | |
| 17:06 | (and I should note, Liblime is a division of PTFS) | |
| 17:06 | and they are one among *many* support companies | |
| 17:07 | I cannot stress this enough. | |
| 17:07 | are you in the US? | |
| 17:07 | owen | CGI484: The "cloud version" of Koha is simply Koha hosted by someone other than yourself. |
| 17:07 | There isn't anything magically cloud-like about it. | |
| 17:07 | CGI484 | Thanks :) . Is there a free version I can dowload and install? |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | absolutely |
| 17:07 | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | |
| 17:08 | CGI484 | Ok, so that is the one I found too. It seemed strange because it is 90MB.... |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 17:09 | CGI484 | Besides I had problems installing it on a Red Hat server |
| 17:09 | Is there a lighter version of the software? | |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | most people have trouble installing it the first time |
| 17:10 | CGI484 | :) |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 17:10 | CGI484 | DO you know a page with FAQs or tips regarding the installation process? |
| 17:10 | owen | CGI484: The 3.0.5 download is large because it includes various translations |
| 17:11 | The 3.2 Alpha2 is lighter because it doesn't include the same translations | |
| 17:11 | CGI484 | Thank you, I think I'll give it a try |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | but, it might be buggier. ;) |
| 17:12 | fair warning | |
| 17:13 | CGI484 | Ok. It seems to me the installation is not easy, and many dependencies are required. I'm going to try the installation again. Thank you very much for your tips! |
| 17:13 | cait | hm I can save an empty currency form? |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | sure, stop by anytime if you get stuck |
| 17:15 | we are pro at helping with installs ;) | |
| 17:18 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | CGI484: we should probably note that in the works is a debian package, so you can just apt-get install koha |
| 17:18 | and be done with it (more or less) | |
| 17:19 | CGI484 | thank you. Actually I'm already stuck during the "make" process, but it's my server's problem: "No space left on device at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 443", though I have sapce under /usr ... |
| 17:21 | Do you know if I can change koha to another directory different from /usr? | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | does this help you at all? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9270fbd6;hb=HEAD |
| 17:26 | there are a lot of debian/ubuntu nerds here, not so many redhat folk | |
| 17:27 | CGI484 | Thank you! You're great :) I'll follow the guide and if problems persist I'll get back here for help. |
| 17:27 | Yes, I prefer ubuntu too, but the company server is Red Hat, so.... | |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 17:27 | CGI484 | :) |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | dare I ask what you are going to use koha for? a company library? |
| 17:28 | jdavidb | wizzyrea++ #she's just awesome like that. |
| 17:28 | cait | CGI484: you can choose dev install instead of standard, you can choose the path and its all in 2 directories |
| 17:29 | CGI484 | yes, we'd like to have an internal library for some books and e-books we internally share |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | cool beans |
| 17:31 | CGI484 | Thanks all guys. I'll try the dev install, 'cause the library seems really cool and professional ;) THANKS |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | sure thing |
| 17:31 | CGI484 | ;) |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | @karma |
| 17:37 | munin | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (139), "chris" (129), and "owen" (103). Lowest karma: "<!" (-56), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 821. |
| 17:37 | * gmcharlt | issuing general call to anybody who wants to publish Koha wip trees to git.koha-community.org |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | @karma wizzyrea |
| 17:37 | gmcharlt | send me your SSH public keys |
| 17:37 | munin | wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 93 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 93. |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | ooh, owen |
| 17:37 | I'm catching you | |
| 17:38 | but I shall never seek to surpass you | |
| 17:38 | because you are awesom | |
| 17:38 | e | |
| 17:38 | owen | Well yeah, but I've been so mean to people lately |
| 17:38 | wizzyrea | where mean = valid righteous indignation |
| 17:39 | cait | @karma cait |
| 17:39 | munin | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 17:39 | cait | still a lot to learn to get near wizzyrea and owen :) |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | @karma kf |
| 17:40 | munin | wizzyrea: Karma for "kf" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | cait++ kf++ |
| 17:40 | cait++ for all the help with jquery | |
| 17:40 | cait++ for generally being sweet | |
| 17:41 | * cait | blushes |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | hm. too hungry to think of more atm, but just you wait til I have had lunch |
| 17:41 | ;) | |
| 17:42 | cait | I try to help, but cant explain as good as others and often dont know enough |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea++ for good explanations :) | |
| 17:44 | hm can I trust this OK message from git send-email? | |
| 17:49 | jwagner_meeting is now known as jwagner | |
| 17:50 | owen | cait: I don't see anything from you on the patches list yet |
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| 17:54 | cait | me neither |
| 17:54 | :( | |
| 17:54 | perhaps I messed with my git send-email configuration again | |
| 17:55 | owen: I will wait a bit longer and resend later | |
| 18:05 | CGI484 left #koha | |
| 18:16 | cait | owen: resent with thunderbird... |
| 18:22 | gmcharlt: thx :) working on the next patch - wanted to add them all to bug 4499 | |
| 18:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4499 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischerbsz-bw.de, NEW, Javascript erorr messages not translatable |
| 18:22 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 18:23 | chris | yay |
| 18:24 | cait++ | |
| 18:26 | cait | yay :) |
| 18:28 | thanks :) | |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | ok this is bizarre |
| 18:36 | from an imported record | |
| 18:36 | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/nekls/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1104. | |
| 18:36 | is that a problem with the record, or something else? | |
| 18:43 | jdavidb | When I see that, it's usually a trashy record, wizzyrea. |
| 18:44 | owen | ...like a Harlequin Romance maybe. |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | that's what I thought |
| 18:44 | oh snap owen | |
| 18:44 | jdavidb | :-O |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | these came from OCLC though |
| 18:44 | the reporter says "They were all working yesterday" | |
| 18:44 | mmm hmm. | |
| 18:45 | * gmcharlt | has connexion access - what is the OCLC number? |
| 18:45 | * jdavidb | found a *bag* of trashy romances--12 for $5--at the Friends of the MoCo Library bookstore this weekend. |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | 035$a? |
| 18:45 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yep, if it has a number starting with ocm or ocn |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | ocn548616666 |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I was able to import that record w/o problem |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | yea, there must be something screwed up aobut it |
| 18:55 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ # blog entry |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | I mean, our system |
| 18:56 | we do have an impending evening migration | |
| 18:56 | which I don't know if that would affect it, but in my small mind it seems like it could. | |
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| 19:13 | cait | chris: are the js files not parsed for translation? (koha_tmpl...en/js? |
| 19:13 | chris | not sure, i thought they were |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea left #koha | |
| 19:14 | chris | fredericd is the one to ask, he has done some recent work on the translation scrips |
| 19:14 | cait | ah ok |
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| 19:14 | cait | fredericd: around? |
| 19:14 | my filed in de-DE are not translated, although the strings are marked with _(" ") | |
| 19:16 | chris | maybe email to him and koha-translate might be the easiest |
| 19:17 | cait | yes, he is not here very often, was easier with you :) |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | well chris is awesome like that |
| 19:18 | cait | he is :) |
| 19:18 | will write him from work tomorrow | |
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| 19:23 | chris | cool |
| 19:25 | owen | Hi chris, how's it going? |
| 19:25 | cait | but js directory seems to be not included in translation |
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| 19:28 | chris | good thanks owen, hows things with you? |
| 19:29 | owen | Busy busy. |
| 19:30 | Back to working on statistics for a while after a couple of days of Koha bug fixing | |
| 19:31 | chris | ahhh |
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| 19:36 | sekjal | working on hourly loans: I'm thinking of using the minute as the base unit. is there any good case for using seconds? |
| 19:39 | cait | hourly loans - cool! |
| 19:41 | delete borrower from circulation.pl - german error message - same button on details page - english error message | |
| 19:42 | gmcharlt | sekjal: not unless a library has a compelling reason to charge overdue fines on the basis of a farthing every second |
| 19:42 | owen | cait: two different *-toolbar.inc files |
| 19:42 | cait | suer? |
| 19:42 | sure? | |
| 19:43 | I found circ_toolbar_inc | |
| 19:43 | owen | I know that there are two patron-related toolbar include files |
| 19:43 | ...although I can't remember why... | |
| 19:44 | check members-toolbar.inc | |
| 19:44 | In fact I can see right now that it's not properly formatted for translation | |
| 19:45 | cait | yes, thx for your help! |
| 19:45 | owen++ :) | |
| 19:47 | * owen | is off tomorrow, wishes everyone a good weekend |
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| 19:55 | chris | bus time |
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| 22:21 | richard | hi |
| 22:21 | chris | hi richard |
| 22:22 | richard | hey chris |
| 22:27 | cait | good night #koha |
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| 22:42 | chris_n | larsw: nice response to Bob |
| 22:44 | larsw | thank you |
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| 23:22 | chris | back |
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