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| 07:04 | magnus | good morning #koha! |
| 07:05 | Ropuch | Hello magnus [; |
| 07:06 | magnus | hello Ropuch |
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| 08:37 | mason | chris: u about re: hlt reboot? |
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| 09:23 | mason | chris: |
| 09:24 | chris: all good.... | |
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| 10:34 | kf | hi #koha |
| 10:37 | hdl_laptop | hi kf |
| 10:37 | kf | hi hdl_laptop |
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| 10:39 | juan-xercode | hi |
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| 10:47 | chris_n | g'morning |
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| 10:50 | hdl_laptop | hi juan-xercode |
| 10:50 | juan-xercode | hi henri |
| 10:51 | kf | h juan-xercode :) |
| 10:51 | juan-xercode | hi kf |
| 10:52 | yesterday i've been trying to set koha under a www.domain.com/koha1 | |
| 10:52 | but, no success | |
| 10:52 | i always get it working under a subdomain like koha1.domain.com | |
| 10:52 | anybody try it?? | |
| 11:00 | kf | @wunder konstanz |
| 11:00 | munin` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.5�C (11:58 AM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:08 | chris | juan-xercode: there are too many hardcoded paths in the templates for that to work easily |
| 11:12 | kf | hi chris |
| 11:14 | chris | hi kf |
| 11:33 | kf | @wunder konstanz |
| 11:33 | munin` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.9�C (12:28 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:44 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:45 | jwagner | morning, owen |
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| 12:48 | kf | morning owen and jwagner |
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| 12:49 | chris_n | owen: do we use jquery.tablesorter.js for our table sorting? |
| 12:50 | good morning as well :) | |
| 12:52 | owen | Hi chris_n, yes we do |
| 12:53 | This one: http://tablesorter.com/docs/ | |
| 12:53 | chris_n | I just noticed that they have a table pagination addon for that script which might be a nicer way of handling pagination for long tables |
| 12:54 | owen | Except don't you have to load the contents of all "pages" before you can display it that way? |
| 12:55 | chris_n | I'm not sure, I just saw the add-on and had the thought |
| 12:55 | if it uses some sort of ajax type call back to grab each "page" it would not be too heavy | |
| 12:56 | owen | I you disable javascript and view this page you'll see a giant table: http://tablesorter.com/docs/example-pager.html |
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| 12:57 | kf | owen: looks really nice |
| 12:58 | chris_n | but if I view the page source with js on, I do not see the entire table in the source |
| 12:58 | jwagner | Question for folks, true or false? "Koha only supports Code 39 barcode symbology for printing scannable barcodes on hold-transfer slips" |
| 12:58 | * chris_n | is not an initiate in these things, however |
| 12:58 | chris_n | jwagner: maybe |
| 12:58 | jwagner | chris_n, nothing like a definitive answer :-) |
| 12:59 | chris_n | there is support for a number of barcode types in various sections of Koha |
| 12:59 | I'm not sure what that section in particular supports | |
| 12:59 | kf | jwagner: I never saw a barcode on a hold slip... |
| 12:59 | ? | |
| 12:59 | jwagner | Me either. |
| 13:00 | chris_n | jwagner: it would probably be trivial to add if it does not |
| 13:00 | owen | jwagner: Is that a LEK thing? |
| 13:00 | chris_n | I think both of the barcode modules support nearly all forms of barcode |
| 13:00 | kf | I was told that the printers can be a problem |
| 13:01 | chris_n | kf: that might be true |
| 13:01 | kf | because some slip printers dont produce readable barcodes |
| 13:01 | slip printer? whats the right word? | |
| 13:01 | jwagner | owen, not sure |
| 13:06 | collum | It's mentioned in documentation under itembarcodelength - http://ow.ly/1qJ4s |
| 13:07 | llek documentation | |
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| 13:07 | jwagner | collum, thanks. I'm going to have to get familiar with all that. |
| 13:08 | collum | just did a google search. :) |
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| 14:16 | chris_n | yo-yo internet today brendan? |
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| 14:38 | slef | Hi all. |
| 14:38 | hdl_laptop: what does MT2116 mean on a commit log? | |
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| 14:45 | nengard | woo hoo - irc not blocked ;) |
| 14:45 | jdavidb | hi, nengard. |
| 14:45 | nengard | hiya |
| 14:45 | Sharon | did you get any sleep at that 'place of healing' nengard? |
| 14:45 | nengard | no |
| 14:45 | well 2 hours | |
| 14:45 | so no | |
| 14:46 | at 12am they came in to give me an IV - and then right after that the woman in the bed next to me decided it was time to wake up and talk | |
| 14:46 | Sharon | they tried to give my brother benedryl as a sleep aid and it didn't work, so he didn't sleep and it took longer to get better |
| 14:46 | nengard | so first she tried to talk to me and then to the nurse |
| 14:46 | and finally at 2am they took her away | |
| 14:46 | so i could sleep | |
| 14:46 | Sharon | lordy! |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | are you in the hospital right now? |
| 14:46 | nengard | and it took another 2 hours to fall asleep with all the beeping and lights |
| 14:46 | yes | |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | poor thing |
| 14:46 | nengard | they want to keep me another night |
| 14:46 | :( | |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | :( indeed |
| 14:46 | nengard | i want my bed and my room darkening shades |
| 14:47 | and the lack of beeping!! | |
| 14:47 | Sharon | need ear plugs, eye patch thingy and some hard core drugs |
| 14:47 | nengard | i did put my ipod on eventually |
| 14:47 | Sharon | I have to have all of that just to sleep in a hotel |
| 14:47 | nengard | but those eye patch things bug me |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | ipod touch? there's an app called naturescape that has sweet nature sounds |
| 14:47 | and white noise | |
| 14:47 | nengard | in the hotels i take the towels and stick them in all the crevices that have light :) |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea - oooooo - i'll look for that | |
| 14:47 | Sharon | my kind of light sleeper. |
| 14:48 | slef | nengard: hope you get well soon |
| 14:48 | nengard | thanks - me too!! |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | I bet you're tired of this :/ |
| 14:48 | nengard | now i'm going to try and poke at the manual some - and maybe some bugs cause i'm soo sooo bored |
| 14:48 | slef | does anyonw know what does MT2116 mean on a commit log? |
| 14:48 | anyone | |
| 14:48 | * wizzyrea | has no clue |
| 14:48 | nengard | i think those are biblibre bug numbers |
| 14:48 | the MT ones | |
| 14:49 | i forget how to find those details though .... brb | |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | nengard You're like that chick from house a couple of weeks ago |
| 14:49 | with the constant running blog of everything | |
| 14:49 | nengard | the blogger?? :) |
| 14:49 | slef | commit 523735ef6b97944dcbbb882704702028c7373c0e makes little sense to me |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | lol yea |
| 14:49 | nengard | trust me i have left plenty out :) hehe |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 14:51 | slef | I've not had time to read blogs for a couple of weeks. Not looking forward to opening my feedreader. |
| 14:52 | nengard | most of my updates have been via facebook and twitter |
| 14:52 | slef i can't find the link to the biblibre bugs site | |
| 14:52 | sorry | |
| 14:53 | but i do think that's what those numbers are - internal bug numbers | |
| 14:53 | cause i had an issue before with documenting a patch | |
| 14:54 | slef | right... I'll hang around in hope of a biblibre.commer appearing |
| 14:54 | or reading their scrollback ;-) | |
| 14:55 | nengard | wizzyrea any little website tweaks that need doing? anything at all ??? :) |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | um... we could work on transferring faq questions |
| 14:56 | nengard | did some of them -but good idea |
| 14:56 | i'll do more | |
| 14:56 | hdl_laptop | slef yes MT is Mantis. |
| 14:56 | nengard | can anyone edit those? or just the creator? I ask cause some may be out of date |
| 14:56 | hdl_laptop | our bugtracker. |
| 14:57 | slef | hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about? |
| 14:57 | brb | |
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| 14:57 | wizzyrea | the faq's? |
| 14:57 | for now you have to have pretty high level access to edit the faq's | |
| 14:58 | I was working on the permissions part of it but got pulled off to do something else | |
| 14:58 | oh, and I don't know if you saw the part about how if you type IRC in a post it will automatically link to the meebo widget | |
| 15:00 | kf | @wunder konstanz |
| 15:00 | munin` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.7�C (3:58 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:00 | nengard | wizzyrea i saw you were going to do that - but didn't try it :) awesome! |
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| 15:16 | kf | 2389 words need attention |
| 15:16 | * kf | sighs |
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| 15:27 | * chris_n | hopes nengard gets well soon :) |
| 15:28 | nengard | aww shucks :) thanks chris_n |
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| 15:35 | nengard | woo hoo - just heard the nurse say that the woman in the room with me (who likes to wake up at 2am and talk to herself and everyone around her - even if we're sleeping) is getting moved today! :) maybe a little better chance of sleep tonight |
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| 15:43 | slef | back |
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| 15:43 | slef | hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about? In particular, what made it worth changing C4::Record's interface and adding more dependencies during 3.0.x series? |
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| 15:46 | slef | juan-xercode: yoyo? |
| 15:47 | juan-xercode | i'm testing a new irc |
| 15:47 | :) | |
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| 15:51 | chris_n | heya slef |
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| 15:52 | slef | juan-xercode: it's going badly. |
| 15:52 | hi chris_n | |
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| 15:57 | jfbucas | Hi |
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| 16:00 | jfbucas | Does anybody have any experience or documentation regarding the migration from Heritage to Koha? |
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| 16:11 | slef | jfbucas: I might. |
| 16:11 | * slef | looks at his notes |
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| 16:18 | jfbucas | thanks slef |
| 16:19 | slef | jfbucas: what's the manufacturer's name? |
| 16:19 | I thought that was Oxford something or other but that's not on my notes. | |
| 16:23 | jfbucas | isoxford.com |
| 16:24 | http://www.isoxford.com/ | |
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| 16:24 | slef | jfbucas: yep, not in my notes, so I guess I've no experience yet. |
| 16:25 | jfbucas | ok, thanks anyway |
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| 16:25 | slef | jfbucas: you could try searching the lists and so on, but I think I've heard it doesn't speak standards. |
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| 16:25 | slef | jfbucas: Aha http://www.isoxford.com/heritage/marc |
| 16:26 | jfbucas: so unless you've bought that, I guess you're locked in. :-( | |
| 16:27 | jfbucas: even then, it doesn't say if it exports copy information, so you might still have to do a stocktake. | |
| 16:27 | jfbucas | we bought it yes |
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| 16:28 | jfbucas | hum, that's what I'm afraid of |
| 16:28 | slef | "elements of Heritage cataloguing not present in MARC, such as adding administration dates and linking to associated documents" erm, pretty sure MARC can have those, but I guess it depends exactly what they mean by MARC. |
| 16:29 | jfbucas | I'm not exactly familiar with MARC or MARC 21 |
| 16:30 | but I guess that's a standard to describe what can be described for each item of the catalog | |
| 16:30 | the main problem I have with heritage is that it is not compatible with OpenSource systems | |
| 16:31 | slef | jfbucas: simple test is to export a MARC record and look for copy data in the usual places (tags 852 and 952 IIRC) |
| 16:31 | MARC21 = MAchine Readable Cataloguing for the 21st century | |
| 16:32 | jfbucas | ok |
| 16:33 | slef | Well, we (software.coop) speak about free software more than plain open source, but I know what you mean. |
| 16:33 | it doesn't follow open standards | |
| 16:33 | nengard | found something that appears to be blocked |
| 16:33 | can't do z39.50 searches from here | |
| 16:33 | jfbucas | I'd just like to be able to get rid of the old Windows server |
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| 16:34 | slef | nengard: set up a VPN and route UDP over it? ;-) |
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| 16:35 | nengard | thanks for the tip - will do if i get desperate enough - but i have plenty of other work I can do instead |
| 16:35 | slef | jfbucas: sounds like a good aim. |
| 16:36 | jfbucas | :-) |
| 16:37 | slef | nengard: seriously, connecting to a remote server and doing a search from there might be easier. |
| 16:38 | nengard | oh i know - but i didn't have to do the search afterall - I found the answer elsewhere - that's all I meant :) |
| 16:38 | jfbucas | slef: I've managed to export the catalog to some coma separated big text file |
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| 16:47 | CGI546 | Can Anyone please tell me how to change in OPAC layout? Like changing the color scheme |
| 16:48 | Basically I am interesting in modifying .CSS file that I have added through Administration section. | |
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| 16:50 | CGI546 | I want to modify CSS file that I already added. But I don't know how to access that file .. |
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| 17:14 | kf | CGI546: you cant add a file through administration, just point to it |
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| 17:14 | kf | use OPACUserCSS to copy and paste your css directly into the syspref |
| 17:15 | if you want to use a separate file you need to store it somewhere where you can access and change it, on your koha server or perhaps somewhere else on the web | |
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| 17:27 | CGI956 | anyone here? |
| 17:28 | greetings | |
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| 17:28 | sekjal | hi, CGI956 |
| 17:28 | CGI956 | hi, sekjal |
| 17:28 | i'm a newbie | |
| 17:28 | total | |
| 17:29 | sekjal | welcome |
| 17:29 | CGI956 | thank you |
| 17:29 | i do need help, i'm rather confused about some things | |
| 17:30 | sekjal | hopefully we can clarify some stuff for you |
| 17:30 | CGI956 | i've gone through the implementation checklist |
| 17:30 | that liblime emailed me | |
| 17:31 | one thing, how do i "determine your production db's staff client and OPAC urls"? | |
| 17:32 | (btw, if anyone from liblime's here, please make sure you answer your emails please) | |
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| 17:33 | sekjal | I wouldn't want to speak to LibLime's intent with that question, but I'd think it would mean what URLs do you want for your OPAC and for your staff client |
| 17:33 | for example, catalog.yourlibrary.org and staff.yourlibrary.org | |
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| 17:34 | CGI956 | it seems that i would have to tell koha that |
| 17:34 | jwagner | CGI956, I'm still getting familiar with Liblime's procedures (I manage implementations for PTFS), but in general we might have an internal server name for the system, and a name that you want it known by to the world. |
| 17:35 | As in sekjal's examples, that would be how you want the URL to be, perhaps similar to your other web sites. | |
| 17:35 | CGI956 | yes, indeed |
| 17:35 | but i wonder if i have to pay for that extra or what | |
| 17:36 | jwagner | I don't speak to contracts :-) but it should just be a simple matter of a DNS alias. |
| 17:36 | CGI956 | oh ok |
| 17:36 | i wish they would answer my emails, they take a million years | |
| 17:37 | can i send you guys the url to my opac? | |
| 17:37 | see what it looks like | |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | we don't really do support for liblime, unfortunately |
| 17:37 | but you can send it :) | |
| 17:37 | CGI956 | yes i mean just to have a look |
| 17:37 | i just need to get my bearings as it were | |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | fair enough |
| 17:37 | CGI956 | http://ke0025.kohaexpress.com/ |
| 17:38 | jwagner | That's pretty much straight out of the box. Any ideas on what you'd like it look like? Other Koha sites that you like? |
| 17:38 | wizzyrea | hurray |
| 17:39 | CGI956 | only one example i know is this one http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/ |
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| 17:40 | wizzyrea | yep, owen did that |
| 17:40 | * owen | waves |
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| 17:40 | CGI956 | yep, having gone through the implementation checklist it seems i've only configured the behind-the-scenes stuff such as circulation policies |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | owen did most of the design of koha, actually (the UI) |
| 17:40 | koha3 anyway | |
| 17:41 | CGI956 | awesome :) |
| 17:41 | jwagner | owen++ |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | yep, he's awesome |
| 17:41 | CGI956 | so how do i go about making changes, say, if i wanted it to look a little like that other page |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | hehe, owen I had never realized you have a branch "coolville" |
| 17:42 | I want to live there. | |
| 17:42 | owen | Yup, we've really got a Coolville. |
| 17:42 | jwagner | Better than a Splitsville :-) |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | there are lots of tips here |
| 17:42 | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ | |
| 17:42 | owen's blog | |
| 17:43 | on how to customize | |
| 17:43 | jwagner | CGI956, you can do a lot with stylesheets and settings -- I'll help you with that. |
| 17:44 | CGI956 | really, that'd be great, jwagner! |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | it's kinf of her job ;) |
| 17:45 | CGI956 | cool :-) |
| 17:46 | slef | jfbucas: sounds fun(!) |
| 17:46 | jwagner | it is now, wizzyrea :-) |
| 17:47 | * wizzyrea | high fives jwagner |
| 17:47 | jwagner | But I don't promise to make your site look as good as owen's! |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 17:47 | CGI956 | that's fine :-) |
| 17:47 | i just want it to be functional | |
| 17:48 | jfbucas | slef : thanks for your help ! |
| 17:48 | bye everybody | |
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| 17:49 | jwagner | Gotta go to a meeting, back later. |
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| 17:56 | kf | bye #koha :) |
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| 18:59 | CGI727 | hi |
| 18:59 | hi all | |
| 18:59 | i know that i can set up a calendar for holidays/days closed | |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]z&channel=%23koha |
| 19:00 | CGI727 | but |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | this interface is a little nicer for IRC |
| 19:00 | plus you can pick your nick | |
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| 19:00 | mib_c7cf7d | nice |
| 19:00 | thanks! | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | yep, from koha-community.org |
| 19:00 | mib_c7cf7d | this is much better |
| 19:01 | so i just save the link? | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | or you can always get it by going to koha-community.org and click on support -> free |
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| 19:01 | mib_c7cf7d | awesome |
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| 19:01 | mib_c7cf7d | it's the same list just a diff interface? |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 19:02 | mib_c7cf7d left #koha | |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | and you can choose a nick so we know who you are |
| 19:02 | ;) | |
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| 19:02 | wizzyrea | so.. holidays |
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| 19:03 | salk_koha | hello? |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | that wouldn't be salina kansas would it? |
| 19:03 | hi ;) | |
| 19:03 | oh dear, I just freaked you out | |
| 19:03 | mib_vdkcno | my library is closed weekends and there is no one to check in returned items |
| 19:03 | salk_koha | no, ok |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 19:04 | mib_vdkcno | so how do i make sure that fines are not calculated for weekends? |
| 19:04 | the calendar module doesn't seem to offer that option, does it? | |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | I think this can be done, but no, I don't think it's in the calendar |
| 19:05 | owen | mib_vdkcno: Do you have a "finesCalendar" system preference? |
| 19:05 | "Specify whether to use the Calendar in calculating duedates and fines" | |
| 19:05 | One of its settings is "noFinesWhenClosed" | |
| 19:06 | mib_vdkcno | let me check... |
| 19:06 | yes yes | |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | yep, ty that's what I was thinking of owen |
| 19:06 | mib_vdkcno | but isn't that just to enable the calendar to function |
| 19:07 | and in the calendar i have holidays such as christmas, etc | |
| 19:07 | but how do i do it for saturdays and sundays | |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | the option is "no fines when closed" |
| 19:07 | owen | mib_vdkcno: You should specify a repeating holiday for Saturdays and Sundays |
| 19:07 | mib_vdkcno | aaaaaaah ok |
| 19:07 | :-) | |
| 19:09 | gee, thanks! | |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | we aim to please |
| 19:10 | mib_vdkcno | what a great list! |
| 19:10 | owen | Channel. :) |
| 19:12 | mib_vdkcno | i'll be back with my nick |
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| 19:12 | wizzyrea | i hate that cgi irc interface |
| 19:12 | it's terribad | |
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| 19:13 | jmill2010 | now that makes sense |
| 19:13 | :-) | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | :) wb |
| 19:14 | owen did you see the vid we posted demoing the weird holds business? | |
| 19:15 | owen | I don't think so |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | (and if so, is it the same stuff you're seeing) |
| 19:15 | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]ous-holds-issues/ | |
| 19:18 | owen | Naturally charles xavier is at Hiawatha. Everyone knows that. |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 19:19 | what you didn't know was that barack obama was from bern ks | |
| 19:20 | owen | Everyone knows that! |
| 19:21 | salk_koha | I've got a question about getting/debugging Amazon content... but in exchange for help or just to help my karma I'd also like to contribute a php script I wrote that translates MARC items info from the Koha 2.27 to Koha 3.x standard... Any takers? |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | contribs.koha.org |
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| 19:22 | owen | wizzyrea: I've never see the "in transit from nobody" thing... At least I've never seen that actual status on an item. I don't know that it hasn't happened. |
| 19:22 | salk_koha | OK I'll add to contribs |
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| 19:22 | wizzyrea | well, it happens when you get two items for the same patron at the same library, but checking one in triggers the next hold |
| 19:23 | sekjal | wizzyrea: My initial guess is that priority number that's displayed on the holds confirmation page is being passed directly into the database, instead of recalculated on the fly |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | every time we do it we get slightly different (though usually explainable) results |
| 19:23 | sekjal | and then having multiple, equal priorities is leading to the wirecrossing on checking/transfer |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | that's what my thought was sekjal |
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| 19:23 | wizzyrea | no, the priorities get rewritten when the first hold is filled |
| 19:23 | they are pretty much auto correcting | |
| 19:24 | our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time | |
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| 19:25 | wizzyrea | some data is written from both requests, but the output display doesn't compensate for that |
| 19:25 | oh drat he's gone | |
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| 19:26 | wizzyrea | sekjal: repeat for you: our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time |
| 19:27 | the output is showing what's already there, but the submit is actually writing | |
| 19:27 | and you can have 2 writing at the same time | |
| 19:27 | the same data on 2 items, or different data on the same item | |
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| 19:28 | wizzyrea | theoretically you should never have the same item in 2 locations at once |
| 19:29 | so that condition is, meh | |
| 19:29 | chris_n | unless you invoke the clone method... ;-) |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | but writing identical hold fulfillment data on two items = yikes |
| 19:29 | * wizzyrea | invokes the clone method on an iron skillet and bonks chris_n with it |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | drat, it didn't work, I only got the rubber one. |
| 19:30 | * chris_n | hides under his desk |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | :) j/k |
| 19:30 | chris_n | :) |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | I luv u? |
| 19:30 | ;) | |
| 19:31 | chris_n | your skillet is probably broken now if the truth were known ;) |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | that your head is harder than the hardest steel? |
| 19:32 | that sound you hear... that's my mind blowing. | |
| 19:32 | chris_n | weeeell... that depends on who you ask |
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| 19:33 | richard | hi |
| 19:33 | chris_n | heya richard |
| 19:35 | salk_koha | ok, just added my contrib - "Koha v 2.2x to v 3.x MARC migration tool, revision 1.0" |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | excellent : |
| 19:35 | :) | |
| 19:36 | salk_koha | Now.. can someone help w/Amazon debugging |
| 19:36 | I'm not getting anything in the koha_error_log | |
| 19:36 | and I have my debug level set in the prefs to 2 | |
| 19:37 | I have put in my ID and private key (Secret Password in Amazon lingo) into the prefs. | |
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| 19:44 | wizzyrea | I don't recall what your problem was exactly |
| 19:44 | ? | |
| 19:44 | with amazon | |
| 19:44 | can you elaborate? | |
| 19:45 | salk_koha | well, I don't see any of the cover images in the catalog from amazon |
| 19:45 | none of the 'enhanced content' is viewable | |
| 19:45 | but I have turned on all of the appropriate prefs related to amazon content | |
| 19:45 | wizzyrea | you have all of these prefs set correctly? |
| 19:45 | http://screencast.com/t/ZjJiNzQ1Y | |
| 19:45 | salk_koha | standby |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | is there a firewall or other content filter blocking amazon access from where the server is? |
| 19:46 | that layout may not be similar to what you're looking at but the names are the same, I believe | |
| 19:48 | http://www.screencast.com/t/NDgyMzU5MjY | |
| 19:48 | salk_koha | yes, the prefs are slightly different since I'm using 3.00.04 but I have all of this set similar and have both the ID and private key ( is this what amazon calls the 'secret access key'?) |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | i believe so |
| 19:49 | salk_koha | I don't have *any* firewall rules in place. |
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| 19:49 | salk_koha | but I am going to double check that there isn't anythign on our switch that might be blocking there |
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| 19:49 | salk_koha | do you know what port I need to have open? |
| 19:50 | do you know what port I need to have open? | |
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| 19:54 | wizzyrea | well it's port 80 traffic |
| 19:54 | if youc an surf from your server (theoretically) amazon images should work | |
| 19:55 | if I had to guess you have a typo or a space in one of your amazon keys | |
| 19:55 | that got me one | |
| 19:55 | once | |
| 19:55 | a space or tab at the end of the key made it not work | |
| 19:56 | salk_koha | ok, ill try that |
| 19:56 | do you know of any logs that I can check to see where it's failing? | |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | I don't, maybe someone else does |
| 19:57 | you might try the apache logs | |
| 20:00 | chris | morning |
| 20:01 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 20:01 | munin` | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 20:02 | munin` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.7�C (3:00 PM CDT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | ooh, by a hair chris |
| 20:02 | salk_koha | thanks, nothing there |
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| 20:05 | slef | @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
| 20:05 | munin` | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 7.5�C (8:00 PM GMT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:11 | chris | sekjal: you about? |
| 20:12 | sekjal | yes, chris, I'm here |
| 20:12 | chris | is the nyu health sciences koha opac on the web? |
| 20:12 | sekjal | hslcat.med.nyu.edu |
| 20:12 | chris | thank you :) |
| 20:12 | sekjal | gladly |
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| 21:28 | hilongo | Hello there ... |
| 21:28 | chris | hi hilongo |
| 21:29 | hilongo | I'm having some problems in my 3.0.6 installation with diacritics and searching ... |
| 21:30 | I was wondering if importing my records vis XML would be helpful | |
| 21:30 | chris | ahh you probably want to chat with the french guys, they have solved those, its to do with zebra |
| 21:30 | you have to make sure its using dom, and do some other thing i forget | |
| 21:30 | if/when you find out, let me know and ill add it to the searching FAQ | |
| 21:31 | hilongo | ok ... |
| 21:31 | chris | lemme do a quick mailing list search |
| 21:32 | hilongo | if you find nothing .. I'll throw it to the list and wait for some french answer :) |
| 21:32 | chris | word-phrase-utf.chr |
| 21:32 | http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]g-utf.chr;hb=HEAD | |
| 21:33 | hilongo | hmmm... the bad news is that my word-phrase-utf.chr is the same ... |
| 21:33 | But I think I have some other problem ... | |
| 21:33 | chris | sort-string-utf.chr? |
| 21:35 | hilongo | cause I have some records with some type of diacritics and some other records with a different type of diacritic... |
| 21:35 | _Hard to explain ... :P | |
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| 21:38 | jmill2010 | how do I define holds per item type? |
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| 21:40 | jmill2010 | i've checked under item types and there is nothing that will allow to set a hold policy |
| 21:41 | hilongo | some of my accented o lokks like "C3B3" and some others looks like "cc81" |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | jmill that's under circ and fine rules |
| 21:41 | hilongo | jmill2010: did you look at Circulations rules? |
| 21:41 | jmill2010 | yes |
| 21:42 | also there is nothing there regarding holds | |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/YzdkNjQxZ |
| 21:42 | that's the circ and fine rules | |
| 21:43 | jmill2010 | apparently i don't have that choice |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | what version? |
| 21:44 | hilongo | I'm with 3.0.6 and I have it ... |
| 21:44 | jmill2010 | koha express |
| 21:44 | by liblime | |
| 21:44 | :-( | |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | nah no need to frown |
| 21:46 | actually express probably doesn't have that | |
| 21:46 | would have been developed after the release you are using | |
| 21:47 | chris | jmill2010: you could email ptfs and ask them to upgrade you ? |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | and when we ask for version, we want you to go to More -> About Koha |
| 21:47 | jmill2010 | ok |
| 21:47 | i'll check | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | that is easier for us to get a handle on than koha express :) |
| 21:47 | b/c we don't know what version they're running | |
| 21:48 | easy enough to ind out though | |
| 21:48 | find, even | |
| 21:48 | jmill2010 | 3.00.02.012 |
| 21:48 | koha version: 3.00.02.012 | |
| 21:48 | chris | ah yeah, thats pretty old |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | :/ yea you probably don't have the itype holds stuff |
| 21:49 | sorry :( | |
| 21:49 | jmill2010 | ok geez :-) |
| 21:49 | it's funny cause i got it only last Friday | |
| 21:50 | things change pretty fast | |
| 21:50 | unless liblime's given me a very old version just for kicks | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | oh that's old like, a couple of years |
| 21:50 | they um, yea they do that | |
| 21:50 | jmill2010 | !!! |
| 21:51 | they should be called liblame, shouldn't they | |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | 2 releases back, anyway |
| 21:51 | * wizzyrea | did not suggest that you say that |
| 21:51 | chris | 3.02 was released 3 even |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | just for the record |
| 21:51 | chris | June 4 2009 |
| 21:51 | 3.0.2 was released | |
| 21:51 | 3.0.5 released december 15 2009 | |
| 21:52 | 3.0.6 any day now | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | oh so not *that* long but still several releases back |
| 21:52 | chris | about 400 patches ago |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | I wouldn't worry too much about it jmill, we are hopeful that ptfs will make their customers happy |
| 21:53 | jmill2010 | yes |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | so if you don't like something, complain |
| 21:53 | jmill2010 | so am i |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 21:53 | jmill2010 | thanks, yep! |
| 21:53 | * wizzyrea | is a habitual complainer ;) |
| 21:53 | chris | i lie 847 patches ago |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | real thorn in their side |
| 21:54 | chris | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ko[…]sion3.0/tags.html |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | ok. 10 mins early, but gonna head out |
| 21:54 | * chris | is unofficial koha historian |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | pff unofficial |
| 21:54 | I think you mean "the guy anal enough to keep all the history and records in order" | |
| 21:54 | ;) | |
| 21:54 | chris | heh |
| 21:54 | jmill2010 | so hopefully ptfs will provide the latest version |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | once it gets released, I imagine they will, yes |
| 21:55 | chris | yep hopefull they will upgrade to the latest stable |
| 21:55 | i expect them to, they seem competent | |
| 21:56 | jmill2010 | i already got in touch with one of them earlier today through this list |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | right, jane |
| 21:56 | chris | cool |
| 21:56 | jmill2010 | yes, jwagner |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | she's super nice |
| 21:57 | competent, too | |
| 21:57 | jmill2010 | perfect |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | I would recommend at least for now sticking with whatever support contact info they've given you, though. They are totally swamped |
| 21:58 | we can help you with some stuff, so if it's minor it doesn't hurt to ask | |
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| 21:59 | wizzyrea | but this isn't really a forum for LL customers to get help that only LL can provide. |
| 21:59 | if that makes sense | |
| 21:59 | jmill2010 | yes it does |
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| 22:00 | jmill2010 | it's just the LL hasn't answer any of my emails since two days ago |
| 22:00 | answered | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | yea, that happens. They're in transition, I imagine it can only get better |
| 22:01 | jmill2010 | yes, i guess that's what it is |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | anyway, come hang out with us anytime ;) |
| 22:01 | ok, off to get the spud | |
| 22:01 | later peeps | |
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| 22:01 | chris | cya later |
| 22:02 | jmill2010 | later |
| 22:02 | thanks for everything:) | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea_away | sure thing |
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| 22:07 | jmill2010 | yep now that i'm revising my implementation checklist it appears that many of my questions have to do with the fact that I have an old version, which explains the discrepancies between what the manual says and what actually on my koha |
| 22:08 | what i actually see in my koha system, i mean | |
| 22:09 | chris | yep that would make sense |
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| 22:21 | chris_n | liblame... hehe |
| 22:24 | jmill2010 | :) |
| 22:24 | just a joke | |
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| 22:31 | chris_n | jmill2010: not to worry, they have earned all of the jokes and otherwise... but we are trusting that better things will come now that PTFS is in charge |
| 22:33 | jmill2010 | indeed, thanks, chris_n |
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