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| 00:14 | jmill2010 | hi |
| 00:14 | hi all | |
| 00:15 | can patron categories be created for statistical purposes also? | |
| 00:15 | besides circ policy purposes | |
| 00:16 | chris | how do you mean? |
| 00:17 | jmill2010 | for example i've create a Student category... Can I instead create one for Graduate Students and another for Undergrad Students, just for stat purposes (as they would have the same permissions)? |
| 00:17 | chris | yep, you can do anythin you like :) |
| 00:17 | you just need to set them up with the same policies | |
| 00:18 | jmill2010 | right |
| 00:18 | awesome | |
| 00:20 | for stats i need to set up the stats wizard, am i right | |
| 00:20 | chris | ppl have written lots of good reports you can cut and paste into to the create report from sql bit |
| 00:21 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=sql_library | |
| 00:21 | jmill2010 | thanks very much :) |
| 00:23 | problem is i don't even know what sql is | |
| 00:23 | :P | |
| 00:23 | reading though... | |
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| 03:36 | Amit_G | hi all |
| 03:36 | heya brendan, chris | |
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| 03:45 | CGI341 | hay guise |
| 03:45 | i r new heyar | |
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| 07:47 | kmkale | hi all I am seeing a lot of following errors in koha-error_log koha version 3.00.05.003 no Zebra perl 5.010000 on ubuntu 9.10 |
| 07:48 | [Fri Mar 26 13:02:47 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Fri Mar 26 13:02:47 2010] circulation.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2801., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]rrower=2AG09CV043 | |
| 07:48 | circulation module is very slow as compared to other work in staff client | |
| 07:48 | any ideas? | |
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| 08:54 | jransom | Hiya Paul |
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| 08:56 | magnus | g'day #koha! |
| 09:00 | Amit_G | heya kmkale, jransom, magnus |
| 09:00 | magnus | hiya Amit_G |
| 09:00 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 09:00 | munin` | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (9:50 AM CET on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:00 | kmkale | hi amit |
| 09:00 | jransom | hi everyone |
| 09:01 | Amit_G | @wunder New Delhi, India |
| 09:01 | munin` | Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (2:00 PM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:01 | Amit_G | @wunder Dehradun, India |
| 09:01 | munin` | Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 32.0�C (11:30 AM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa. |
| 09:01 | Amit_G | @wunder Bangalore, India |
| 09:01 | munin` | Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 29.0�C (11:30 AM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. |
| 09:02 | magnus | wow, that's hot |
| 09:03 | jransom | Amit: are you coming down to Koha Con |
| 09:03 | magnus | i must confess i'd rather have 0 °C than 37... |
| 09:03 | jransom | Chris: are you about by any chance? |
| 09:05 | busy trying to price out the KohaCon road trip from Auckland to Wellington. Wondering if its only Americans who drive on the wrong side of the road | |
| 09:07 | and thinking maybe we just hire 4 seater cars and self drive ... NZ would be like a country drive compared to Paris I am sure :) | |
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| 10:16 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 10:16 | munin` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 15.0�C (6:13 AM EDT on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:28 | kmkale_ | [Fri Mar 26 15:50:29 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Fri Mar 26 15:50:29 2010] circulation.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2801., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]rc/circulation.pl |
| 10:28 | guyz any help with this? | |
| 10:29 | hi all I am seeing a lot of these errors in koha-error_log koha version 3.00.05.003 no Zebra perl 5.010000 on ubuntu 9.10 | |
| 10:29 | circulation module is very slow as compared to other work in staff client | |
| 10:34 | chris_n | kmkale_: that error means that there is probably a variable which is undefined in the regexp matching pattern used at that line |
| 10:34 | it may or may not be the reason for the slowness | |
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| 10:35 | chris_n | heya Jo |
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| 10:38 | chris_n | kmkale: it would appear a record or records is/are missing either a biblionumber or title |
| 10:39 | 2801: unless ($result{'__RAW__'}->{$_} =~ /$biblionumber,$title\-(\d);/) { | |
| 10:39 | kmkale | will it be the particular biblio I am trying to circulate? |
| 10:39 | chris_n | it looks like part of a delete operation |
| 10:40 | kmkale | its under that indexed block |
| 10:40 | chris_n | or after modifying a bib |
| 10:41 | so I'd guess it is a corrupt bib or bibs | |
| 10:41 | but that is just a guess; there may be others around later who could say more certainly | |
| 10:42 | although noZebra is rapidly becoming depricated | |
| 10:42 | Zebra is the preferred way to run even if you are small | |
| 10:42 | * chris_n | heads off to find breakfast |
| 10:50 | kmkale | thanks |
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| 11:42 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 11:42 | munin` | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (4:40 PM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:54 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
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| 12:10 | chris | @later tell jransom no, its more than just americans its more europeans too |
| 12:10 | munin` | chris: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:21 | nicomophone | Testing AndChat on android for nengard |
| 12:21 | magnus | nicomophone: seems to be working! ;-) |
| 12:22 | nicomophone | Indeed |
| 12:22 | :) | |
| 12:23 | Not Very restau though | |
| 12:23 | Arf | |
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| 12:24 | nicomophone | My phone thinks it's clever : changes "fast" into "restau" |
| 12:25 | Dumb machine | |
| 12:25 | With that... | |
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| 12:36 | hilongo | Hello #Koha :) |
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| 12:37 | chris_n | @later tell owen: I got the ajax version of DataTable working in my app; I'm going to do some testing and then plan to workup a test branch to test it in Koha |
| 12:37 | munin` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:37 | AndChat| | Woo hoo |
| 12:37 | chris_n | hi nengard |
| 12:38 | AndChat| | Nengard on mobile itch |
| 12:38 | chris_n | andriod? |
| 12:38 | AndChat| | Or irc |
| 12:38 | Y | |
| 12:38 | chris_n | cool |
| 12:38 | jwagner | nengard, aren't you supposed to be resting and recovering in your nice peaceful hospital bed? Quit working!!! |
| 12:39 | AndChat| | Says I'm andchat.. not nengard |
| 12:39 | chris_n | she's playing |
| 12:39 | not working :) | |
| 12:39 | do the /nick thing | |
| 12:39 | jwagner | Harrumph! |
| 12:39 | AndChat| | Jwagner there is no peace in hospitals |
| 12:39 | chris_n | jwagner: play helps recovery |
| 12:39 | jwagner | I know -- I've spent too much time there myself lately, with more to come. However.... |
| 12:40 | AndChat| | I'm hyped up on steroids |
| 12:40 | No rest here | |
| 12:40 | chris_n | lol |
| 12:40 | * jwagner | ducks and runs for cover! |
| 12:40 | AndChat| | And nick didn't work |
| 12:40 | chris_n | double harrumph! |
| 12:40 | * jwagner | really has to run for a meeting -- hope you feel better soon. |
| 12:40 | jwagner is now known as jwagner_meeting | |
| 12:40 | AndChat| | But u know its me |
| 12:41 | chris_n | yup, your standard nick was in your hostname when you came on channel |
| 12:42 | plus whois shows your real name :) | |
| 12:42 | so I'm assuming it is the real you | |
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| 12:45 | AndChat| | Now I'm gonna get my laptop cause its easier |
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| 12:45 | hilongo | Ah! ... the technology .... :) |
| 12:47 | juan is now known as juan|away | |
| 12:47 | hilongo | paul_p: Hello Paul ... I have a little question about diacritics... :) |
| 12:47 | paul_p | hilongo, i'm at a meeting with a customer, sorry but can't answer |
| 12:48 | hilongo | paul_p: Ok.... sorry to interrupt! :) |
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| 13:24 | * chris_n | waits for FF to recovery from its weekly crash :-Z |
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| 13:56 | owen | Hi schuster how's it going? |
| 13:57 | schuster | Pretty good, just really busy and my boss is concerned about lots of stuff so micromanaging. |
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| 14:27 | wizzyrea | good morning |
| 14:30 | bgkriegel | morning liz, almost noon here |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | er, good day? |
| 14:30 | ;) | |
| 14:30 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | well it's 9:30 here, so mid-morning technically |
| 14:30 | owen | Where are you bgkriegel? |
| 14:31 | bgkriegel | Argentina |
| 14:31 | Cordoba | |
| 14:31 | 11:30 | |
| 14:32 | * owen | forgets how far east South America goes! |
| 14:41 | magnus | g'day folks - geography is fun! |
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| 15:01 | * gmcharlt | waves at #koha from Portland |
| 15:01 | * chris_n | waves back |
| 15:02 | * jwagner | waves at everyone in general |
| 15:02 | also everyone in Portland | |
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| 15:05 | owen | What's in Portland gmcharlt, besides you? |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt | owen: the public library association meeting |
| 15:05 | and bacon donuts | |
| 15:06 | jwagner | bacon donuts???? |
| 15:08 | * chris_n | asks gmcharlt to pass another bacon donut and some coffee his way |
| 15:08 | gmcharlt | jwagner: http://blogs.liblime.com/devel[…]-bacon-donut-ils/ |
| 15:16 | jwagner | Now I'm HUNGRY!!!!!!!! |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | good old atz |
| 15:17 | did you get to have one of these monstrosities gmcharlt? | |
| 15:18 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I had to visit a cardiologist after just looking at the picure, so no ;) |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 15:20 | chris_n | lol :) |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | "bacon donuts are a sometimes food" |
| 15:21 | i.e. never | |
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| 15:35 | rhcl | BTW, this is a good, Linux-based food item for your staff days. |
| 15:35 | http://blogs.liblime.com/devel[…]-bacon-donut-ils/ | |
| 15:36 | ignore previous, wrong channel | |
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| 15:42 | owen | Spreading the bacon donut gospel eh rhcl? Good man. |
| 15:43 | jwagner | Now all we need is some mixture of eggs and coffee.... |
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| 15:43 | owen | jwagner: Boy, you lost me there! |
| 15:45 | jwagner | Just trying to reduce the Great American Breakfast to the smallest number of components. Donut+Bacon, Eggs+Coffee, etc. |
| 15:45 | (Not that I personally eat any of that for breakfast.) | |
| 15:46 | owen | You're making it too complicated. Everything goes on the donut. The coffee stays separate. |
| 15:46 | jwagner | Hmmmm.... The idea has a certain attraction..... |
| 15:46 | * chris_n | is careful to keep eggs and coffee separate while introducing them into his digestive tract |
| 15:46 | chris_n | so we have a bacon-egg-cheese donut? |
| 15:46 | owen | Why not add hash browns? |
| 15:48 | chris_n | now I'm hungry... again :) |
| 15:49 | jwagner | I normally hate fastfood breakfasts, but I've developed a shameful craving for McDonalds -- bacon, egg, & cheese McGriddle (pancake) sandwich. |
| 15:50 | owen | From what I hear that's halfway to a donut sandwich itself |
| 15:50 | jwagner | It's getting there |
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| 15:55 | jwagner | And with all that, I think I'll go get some lunch... |
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| 16:20 | wizzyrea | I like the new jquery site... comments on the documentation pages are really helpful |
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| 16:50 | chris_n | heya brendan |
| 16:50 | brendan | hey chris_n |
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| 16:53 | wizzyrea | Si still on holiday? |
| 16:53 | (gentle prod about koha-community dns) | |
| 16:58 | owen | Not to mention channel ops? |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | well we'd have to kick everyone out to re-establish ops |
| 17:02 | or bounce the server | |
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| 17:16 | chris_n | we need a channel server on the same box to maintain ops |
| 17:16 | * jwagner | 's eyes are blurring -- I just read that as channel surfing to maintain cops.... |
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| 17:53 | chris_n | wb nengard |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | nengard, still in the hospital? |
| 17:54 | nengard | yes |
| 17:54 | doc just left - i'm stuck here another night | |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | oh nm just saw your tweet |
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| 17:54 | wizzyrea | do they know what's wrong? |
| 17:57 | nengard | yeah - asthma |
| 17:57 | that they've known all this time | |
| 17:57 | it's just an acute asthma attack that my lungs aren't jumping back from | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | :( do they know what triggered it? |
| 18:01 | chris_n | so if I have a circ rule which allows two renewals for a given patron category, why would the renew column on the circ page show no renewals allowed? |
| 18:02 | * chris_n | thinks we ought to report which rule is being applied to result in a failed renewal |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | erm, wrong itype? |
| 18:02 | nengard | wizzyrea a sinus infection - a bad one |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | oh that suuuuucks |
| 18:03 | chris_n | wizzyrea: well, this is the default rule and there is no rule for that itype |
| 18:03 | so shouldn't the default apply? | |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | something is tickling.. |
| 18:03 | * chris_n | wonders if the rules code works correctly :( |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | there was a thing about the default rules |
| 18:03 | it's tickling my mind | |
| 18:04 | like they weren't always applied | |
| 18:04 | chris_n | I'll create a rule for that itype and see if that fixes it |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | try adding a rule for your itype and see ... yea |
| 18:04 | * chris_n | now has the privilege of being both a dev and user :P |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | oh dear lol |
| 18:04 | gl ;) | |
| 18:04 | * owen | notices from the log that munin` didn't pass on a message chris_n left for him |
| 18:04 | wonders how he got on munin` 's bad side | |
| 18:05 | chris_n | poor owen |
| 18:05 | * chris_n | admonishes munin` to be more kind like his nemesis munin |
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| 18:18 | chris_n | interesting... even with a specific rule, C4::Circulation->CanBookBeRenewed() fails to find a matching rule |
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| 18:51 | chris_n | wizzyrea: is there a bug open for the failure of the default rule to apply? |
| 18:54 | hmm... it appears to be a busted SQL statement | |
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| 19:16 | rhcl | wizzyrea: would it be appropriate to have a link to the chat archives on koha-community.org??? |
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| 19:27 | wizzyrea | oh sure |
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| 19:28 | wizzyrea | chris: I thought there was one |
| 19:28 | lemme look | |
| 19:29 | er, chris_n | |
| 19:29 | gerg, bugs.koha.org = slow | |
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| 20:37 | chris_n | wizzyrea: if you find it, let me know, 'cause I fixed it :) |
| 20:41 | * chris_n | finds it interesting that people now expect phone support from the community |
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| 20:44 | wizzyrea | !! is that something on the mailing list? |
| 20:44 | interestingly, there is a staffed wordpress pay-per-incident help line | |
| 20:44 | that you can call | |
| 20:45 | so I suppose the precedent for community help over the phone is there | |
| 20:45 | * wizzyrea | just gave up her million dollar idea. |
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| 20:46 | wizzyrea | chris_n I was thinking of this bug, which isn't quite the same |
| 20:46 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 | |
| 20:46 | munin` | 04Bug 3785: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | but it might be this one |
| 20:47 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4123 | |
| 20:47 | munin` | 04Bug 4123: critical, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed |
| 20:48 | chris_n | we could have a pay-per-incident phone support section of the site which randomly chooses a vendor |
| 20:48 | chris | heh |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | ... |
| 20:48 | * chris_n | tries to put the lid back on the can of worms now |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | that's actually quite brilliant |
| 20:48 | ez to do with google voice | |
| 20:48 | or you all take a week | |
| 20:48 | chris_n | yup |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | not sure how it would work with overseas vendors |
| 20:49 | * chris_n | thinks there are sufficient voip solutions to take care of that |
| 20:49 | chris | timezones would kinda suck |
| 20:49 | chris_n | a few asterisk servers in the proper locations |
| 20:49 | chris | youd have to build in some knowledge about that |
| 20:49 | chris_n | the "random" script could also handle timezone call routing |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | chris_n was that the bug? |
| 20:50 | * chris_n | looks |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | the 2nd, not the first |
| 20:51 | chris_n | yup |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | i win the internet. :D |
| 20:51 | chris_n | colin's comment may be correct, but kyle's patch should be applied in the meantime |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | I like the usage of the term baroque in that |
| 20:52 | it's both baroque (old) and baroquen (broken) | |
| 20:52 | * chris_n | thinks many things are lacking in the circ rules, but hdl_laptop assures me there is a major fix/improvement in the offing |
| 20:52 | chris_n | probably some of both :) |
| 20:53 | man, its past quitting time | |
| 20:53 | and its Friday as well | |
| 20:53 | * wizzyrea | dreams of quitting time |
| 20:53 | chris_n | @dict quit |
| 20:53 | munin` | chris_n: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Quit \Quit\, v. i. To go away; to depart; to stop doing a thing; to cease. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Quit \Quit\ (kw[i^]t), n. (Zool.) Any one of numerous species of small passerine birds native of tropical America. See {Banana quit}, under {Banana}, and {Guitguit}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Guitguit \Guit"guit`\, n. [So called from its note.] (Zool.) One (14 more messages) |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | lol, the guitquit |
| 20:54 | chris_n | @more |
| 20:54 | munin` | chris_n: of several species of small tropical American birds of the family {C[oe]rebid[ae]}, allied to the creepers; -- called also {quit}. See {Quit}. [1913 Webster] gulae; gcide: Quit \Quit\ (kw[i^]t), a. [OE. quite, OF. quite, F. quitte. See {Quit}, v., {Quiet}.] Released from obligation, charge, penalty, etc.; free; clear; absolved; acquitted. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster] The owner of the ox shall be quit. (13 more messages) |
| 20:54 | chris_n | @more |
| 20:54 | munin` | chris_n: --Ex. xxi. 28. [1913 Webster] Note: This word is sometimes used in the form quits, colloquially; as, to be quits with one, that is, to have made mutual satisfaction of demands with him; to be even with him; hence, as an exclamation: Quits! we are even, or on equal terms. "To cry quits with the commons in their complaints." --Fuller. [1913 Webster]; wn: quit v 1: put an end to a state or an activity; (12 more messages) |
| 20:54 | chris_n | @more |
| 20:54 | munin` | chris_n: "Quit teasing your little brother" [syn: {discontinue}, {stop}, {cease}, {give up}, {lay off}] [ant: {continue}] 2: give up or retire from a position; "The Secretary fo the Navy will leave office next month"; "The chairman resigned over the financial scandal" [syn: {leave office}, {step down}, {resign}] [ant: {take office}] 3: go away or leave [syn: {depart}, {take leave}] [ant: {stay}] 4: turn away (11 more messages) |
| 20:54 | * chris_n | stops spamming the channel and goes home |
| 20:55 | chris_n | bbl |
| 20:57 | chris | heh |
| 20:58 | oh interesting email from amy schuler | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | oh yea I saw that |
| 20:59 | snizzle! | |
| 20:59 | the public shaming aspect of that is especially choice | |
| 21:00 | chris | yup |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzy_home | |
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