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| 00:29 | chris | hiya owen |
| 00:30 | owen | Hi. Just got the kids in bed, thought I'd wander by |
| 00:30 | chris | cool, tis pretty quiet at the moment |
| 00:31 | * owen | worked on a fix for Bug 2970 today, wondering if it would make it into 3.2 |
| 00:31 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority |
| 00:31 | chris | if its a bugfix then id say highly likely it will make it |
| 00:31 | gmcharlt | it'll be in future, at any rate |
| 00:32 | owen | it's an enhancement, although minor |
| 00:32 | gmcharlt | as it is an enhancement, pushing bugfixes, particularly for holds, will get priority |
| 00:35 | owen | I've never submitted a patch that updates the database before-- gmcharlt are you managing database version numbers? |
| 00:36 | gmcharlt | yes - in the updatedatabase.pl code, use 3.01.00.XXX as the version number |
| 00:36 | and I'll assign the number | |
| 00:37 | owen | What about changing kohaversion.pl? Will you do that as well? |
| 00:37 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 00:38 | chris | i have to say i much prefer that, to the complicated ideas being tossed out about revamping the updatedatabase |
| 00:38 | * owen | will test more tomorrow and submit...assuming he's not snowed in |
| 00:39 | gmcharlt | owen: being snowed in gives you more time to hack Koha without your pesky day job interfering ;) |
| 00:39 | owen | Except my day job turns into a babysitting one! |
| 00:39 | brendan | snow++ # /me won't be seeing any for awhile |
| 00:40 | gmcharlt | brendan: you're going to code4lib in North Caroline in a couple weeks - better be careful saying that |
| 00:40 | brendan | :) |
| 00:42 | chris | is it bug day tomorrow? |
| 00:44 | * owen | wonders if he could swing a trip to the code4lib preconference day... |
| 00:44 | chris | how far is it? |
| 00:44 | * brendan | would love to have you there |
| 00:44 | chris | from the chatter on #code4lib the place sounds like quite tricky to get too |
| 00:44 | owen | Google maps says 6.5 hr drive |
| 00:44 | chris | without snow :) |
| 00:44 | gmcharlt | chris: it is indeed bug day tomorrow |
| 00:44 | brendan | we can set aside for time for you to talk present --> if you need some motivatiom |
| 00:45 | owen | Yeah :| |
| 00:45 | chris | cool, ill set aside my morning for bugs |
| 00:46 | owen | I'd love to be there brendan but there's no way I'd attempt the drive if the weather was bad |
| 00:46 | ...and since there's no way to know... | |
| 00:46 | brendan | ok it's on you munin - make the weather good for that day |
| 00:46 | * brendan | does the munin good weather dance |
| 00:47 | gmcharlt | @wunder 99517 |
| 00:47 | munin | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Northern Lights/ Turnagain, Anchorage, Alaska is -2.6�C (3:42 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Falling). Strong wind through tonight along Turnagain Arm and higher elevations... |
| 00:47 | gmcharlt | wow, positively balmy in Anchorage |
| 00:47 | I'm quite serious, by the way | |
| 00:50 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 00:50 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.4�C (6:45 PM CST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 00:50 | brendan | @wunder northpole alaska |
| 00:50 | munin | brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 00:51 | gmcharlt | @wunder barrow, alaska |
| 00:51 | munin | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Barrow, Alaska is -29.0�C (3:45 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0�C. Windchill: -40.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:51 | brendan | there you go that's cold |
| 00:54 | busy day tomorrow hoping that I can make it for part of the day for bug squashing | |
| 00:55 | chris | sweet |
| 00:56 | * owen | wanders off again |
| 00:56 | owen is now known as owen-away | |
| 00:57 | joetho | <---looking at the merge option mentioned above, using the virtualshelflist thing. |
| 00:57 | pretty interesting | |
| 00:57 | chris | yeah, seems to work too |
| 00:57 | that and the bulk item editing are pretty neat | |
| 01:01 | joetho | I want to test that too |
| 01:02 | tomorrow. | |
| 01:03 | Hope the Bywater test server doesn't spring a leak. | |
| 01:03 | braedon|work | shouldn't it be bug squishing now? |
| 01:03 | joetho | This is so much more fun than it was a month ago. |
| 01:03 | braedon|work | "There is a bug squashing session tomorrow all day, all time zones in the #koha" |
| 01:03 | joetho | Wow. |
| 01:03 | Yes, I know | |
| 01:04 | braedon|work | 14 timezones should be in the 10th by now |
| 01:04 | brendan | thanks joetho --> I'll make sure to update last thing tonight |
| 01:05 | do you know why we choose the name ByWater (not anything to do with water)? | |
| 01:05 | gmcharlt | I'll bite - why did you pick that name? |
| 01:06 | joetho | no idea |
| 01:06 | brendan | it's a small community meeting place in the shire |
| 01:06 | from LOTR | |
| 01:06 | joetho | hmmm |
| 01:06 | gmcharlt | ah |
| 01:06 | brendan | played on the literary reference and the community aspect of it |
| 01:06 | gmcharlt | nice |
| 01:07 | * brendan | spent my childhood in mid-earth |
| 01:07 | brendan | sorry middle-earth |
| 01:10 | * chris_n | wishes he could break away for the preconference koha meeting in ashville |
| 01:10 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 01:10 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 4.6�C (8:04 PM EST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect from 6 am to 9 PM EST Wednesday... |
| 01:11 | brendan | chris_n would love to have you |
| 01:11 | how far is it for you? | |
| 01:11 | chris_n | ~5 hours |
| 01:11 | of easy driving | |
| 01:11 | its very nice, I've been out there a bunch since moving to NC | |
| 01:11 | you need to visit Biltmore while you're there | |
| 01:12 | brendan | biltmore? |
| 01:12 | chris_n | http://www.biltmore.com/ |
| 01:12 | brendan | ah biltmore.com |
| 01:12 | jinx | |
| 01:20 | joetho | the new "batch modify a queryset of items" in "tools" came from... BibLibre? |
| 01:20 | chris | yep |
| 01:20 | ditto the merge | |
| 01:20 | joetho | I can't get it to work |
| 01:21 | it is not in the 3.2 dox yet | |
| 01:21 | Obviously I am doing something wrong | |
| 01:21 | but I am kind of braindead | |
| 01:22 | But I am extreeeeeemely interested in it, so I will try to get a very clear idea of what I am trying to express, and see if I can do it in french. | |
| 01:22 | French people are amused by that, I think. | |
| 01:23 | Tomorrow will be a big day. | |
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| 03:00 | brendan | @seen pianohacker |
| 03:00 | munin | brendan: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 4 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <pianohacker> brb work |
| 03:01 | brendan | @quote random |
| 03:01 | munin | brendan: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009) |
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| 06:34 | brendan | @wunder 06516 |
| 06:34 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 1.2�C (1:09 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am EST Thursday... |
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| 07:44 | kf | good morning |
| 07:45 | chris | hi kf |
| 07:47 | kf | hi chris |
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| 08:01 | shamas | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'id' at row 1 at C:/usr/koha229/intranet/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl line 117., referer: http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/a[…]horised_values.pl |
| 08:02 | i am having this error in "intranet error_log" while adding authorized values | |
| 08:02 | can u please help out | |
| 08:02 | can anyone please help out | |
| 08:03 | chris | i dont think anyone here uses windows shamas |
| 08:03 | you might be better off asking on the koha-win32 list | |
| 08:03 | shamas | ok |
| 08:15 | Amit | heya kf, chris |
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| 09:26 | tajoli | Hi |
| 09:26 | Do anyone want to discuss about bug 3255 ? | |
| 09:26 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user |
| 09:35 | magnus | hm, Makefile.PL asks for a user and inserts it into other files like koha-conf.xml, doesn't it? Seems it should be able to do so for the shell scripts too? |
| 09:37 | tajoli | yes, but not during 'dev' install |
| 09:38 | during 'dev' install Makefile.PL doesn't ask you user and group | |
| 09:38 | and it use the default | |
| 09:38 | (koha) | |
| 09:42 | my patch is here http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]9-May/003448.html | |
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| 09:43 | tajoli | But is only a warning during the install process |
| 09:48 | fredericd | chris: ? |
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| 09:53 | tajoli | I need to quite, I have insert all info in the bug 3255 |
| 09:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user |
| 09:53 | tajoli | bye |
| 09:53 | quit | |
| 09:53 | exit | |
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| 10:30 | bigbrovar | hi guys am with the librarian of the school where I work and we are both trying to setup system preference for koha ( my the school's system admin) I just want to know the different between bibliographic data aquisitions and budget-based aquisitions .. advantages and stuff |
| 10:30 | Or a link that would explain the concepts .. we are both noobs to library catalogue systems | |
| 10:46 | gmcharlt | greetings #koha |
| 10:54 | bigbrovar | gmcharlt: thanks for yesterday I have koha running now, the LIbrarian and I are going through the system preference. And I have updated the wiki as promised |
| 10:55 | Amit | heya bigborvar |
| 10:55 | gmcharlt | bigbrovar++ |
| 10:55 | Amit | heya galen |
| 10:55 | gmcharlt | hi Amit |
| 11:08 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 11:08 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.9�C (6:02 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Steady). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening... |
| 11:35 | fredericd | About new preferences editor translation... |
| 11:36 | Text pref doesn't come rather from templates nor from db | |
| 11:36 | I have to code a new tokenizer (a kind of xgettext) | |
| 11:36 | But since the editor mixes text, verbs and sypref into complex sentences | |
| 11:37 | I'm not sure it's even possible to get something usable... | |
| 11:37 | take a look at that article: http://search.cpan.org/~ferrei[…]aketext/TPJ13.pod | |
| 11:38 | any idea from anybody? | |
| 11:40 | gmcharlt | fredericd: one possibility, which would also require tweaking the preference display code, is to add the ability the tag the YAML with linguistic hints |
| 11:40 | fredericd | gmcharlt: and the YAML files would have to be translated by hand? |
| 11:40 | gmcharlt | i.e., if the options in a choice: are verbs, add something to flag it |
| 11:41 | no, the linguistic tagging can come later | |
| 11:41 | but there's an intermediate step | |
| 11:41 | the syspref definition in the Yaml consists of syspref name (which should end up as a comment in the PO to help identify the context of the string) | |
| 11:42 | various pieces of text | |
| 11:42 | which, for now, could be translated as big strings | |
| 11:42 | and things like the choice options, which are distinct and can be translated separately | |
| 11:42 | fredericd | the issue is that depending of languages, the order of text, verbs and syspref name must change |
| 11:43 | gmcharlt | there are limits, of course - I agree that word order is an issue |
| 11:43 | however, I don't think that the syspref names should be translated - they act as keys into the database | |
| 11:44 | fredericd | I fear it's necessary to modify deeply YAML files syntax and consequently the new pref editor itself |
| 11:47 | gmcharlt | hmm |
| 11:47 | that is a problem | |
| 11:47 | of course, it's not like there was a PO-based translation system for systprefs before the new editor | |
| 11:48 | but I was hoping that we could finally fold them into Pootle | |
| 11:48 | changing the YAML syntax doesn't bother me as such | |
| 11:48 | particularly to better tag linguistic elements | |
| 11:51 | fredericd | Ok. I give a try to a raw-tokenization of yaml files and see what happens. This is the simplest path |
| 11:53 | gmcharlt | fredericd++ |
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| 12:15 | chris_n | fredericd: FWIW, webif (a web interface for open-wrt) uses @TR<foo> to tag items for translation |
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| 12:42 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
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| 12:44 | jwagner | Good morning. |
| 12:44 | * jwagner | listens for squishing noises |
| 12:46 | gmcharlt | theme song for the day: Ride of the Valkyries, Elmer Fudd version, substituting 'buuu-uugs' for 'wabbits' |
| 12:46 | hdl_laptop | hi jwagner have you ever heard the call of bugs in he hoods ? |
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| 12:51 | chris_n | hehe |
| 12:52 | * chris_n | is glad to see talk of ILL work on the list |
| 12:52 | jwagner | hdl_laptop, do crickets count? |
| 12:53 | hdl_laptop | hehe |
| 12:55 | seems that bugzilla is s l o w | |
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| 13:04 | gmcharlt | hdl_laptop: thoughts on 4144 and 3912 - I think dropping checkdate and comparedate from acq.js and using Date_from_syspref to create JS Date objects for the checks would handle it |
| 13:04 | if you don't have patches for those bugs yet, I'll work on it | |
| 13:05 | hdl_laptop | go for it |
| 13:13 | nengard | can someone point me to where i can find: koha-zebradaemon-output.log so i can troubleshoot a bug for gmchartl? |
| 13:14 | or gmcharlt :) | |
| 13:14 | gmcharlt | it's in var/log from whereever you set your Koha run directory |
| 13:14 | or | |
| 13:14 | cd ~ | |
| 13:14 | nengard | k - off to find it |
| 13:14 | gmcharlt | find . -name 'koha-zebradaemon-output.log' |
| 13:15 | chris_n | @seen pianohackr|work |
| 13:15 | munin | chris_n: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> gmcharlt: re: translation stopgap? |
| 13:21 | nengard | gmcharlt bug 3938 updated - and sorry it's still an issue - but if no one else can reproduce it maybe it's something specific to my system .... |
| 13:21 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3938 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Cannot Search Authorities After Upgrade |
| 13:26 | hdl_laptop | nengard: ? |
| 13:26 | nengard | hi hdl_laptop |
| 13:27 | hdl_laptop | can you please tell me which page bug 4016 occurs please ? |
| 13:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4016 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, holds listing wrong pick up location |
| 13:27 | nengard | checking now |
| 13:28 | hdl_laptop - I put the URL in the bug -- cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=1 | |
| 13:28 | that said I'll check again to see if it's still an issue | |
| 13:28 | hdl_laptop | nengard: have you reindexed your authorities for 3938 ? |
| 13:29 | nengard | hdl_laptop yup - but not since i reported the bug, so if you want to tell me what to do I'll do it again |
| 13:29 | hdl_laptop | rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v |
| 13:30 | in misc/migration_tools | |
| 13:30 | and KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB | |
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| 13:33 | nengard | hdl_laptop - i get this: |
| 13:33 | nengard debian:~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools$ rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v |
|
| 13:33 | -bash: rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found | |
| 13:33 | i need to step away - be back ASAP | |
| 13:33 | hdl_laptop | perl rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v |
| 13:34 | ebegin | Good morning, afternoon, night ;) |
| 13:36 | nengard | this was my log as i rebuilt - and i still find no results: http://koha.pastebin.com/m9995543 |
| 13:36 | gmcharlt | nengard: what does ls -l /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK show |
| 13:37 | and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock | |
| 13:37 | nengard | -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 0 2009-09-17 11:55 /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK |
| 13:37 | and http://koha.pastebin.com/m4c4e996c | |
| 13:38 | gmcharlt | what's the output of the id command? |
| 13:39 | and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb ? | |
| 13:39 | upshot of where I'm getting at is if you have a separate 'koha' user, you have to change to that to run the rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 13:40 | nengard | http://koha.pastebin.com/m1ea5ac52 |
| 13:40 | oh - wait - I DO!!! Let me try something | |
| 13:41 | WOOO HOOOO - and DUH!! and I'm sorry :( - all is well now :) | |
| 13:42 | gmcharlt | another blocker bites the dust - it's all good |
| 13:43 | jwagner | nengard, I got lost there. Was the solution a lock file, or running rebuild zebra as another user? |
| 13:43 | nengard | jwagner user |
| 13:44 | jwagner | Hrmmm. My only updated server is a bit old by now (3.01.00.100), and its index has been rebuilt by the koha owner user, but I still don't see any authority records when I search. |
| 13:45 | Maybe it was fixed after the .100 level? | |
| 13:47 | nengard | hdl_laptop 4016 is still an issue - i chose to have the item picked up at Fairview and yet both the patrons show that they want to have the item picked up at Centerville |
| 13:47 | I can record a video of what I did if you want | |
| 13:48 | hdl_laptop | 3938... OK |
| 13:51 | nengard | yes |
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| 13:56 | magnus | gmcharlt: if you push the patch for bug 3751 i'll close it asap... ;-) |
| 13:56 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3751 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus enger.priv.no, ASSIGNED, Typo in marc21_field_008.pl |
| 13:58 | gmcharlt | magnus: done |
| 14:00 | magnus | gmcharlt: thanks - closed |
| 14:01 | nengard | are commit and bug emails coming in slow for everyone? |
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| 14:08 | chris_n | bugzilla seems a big slow from here |
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| 14:10 | gmcharlt | BZ is a little slow for me to, but not deathly so |
| 14:17 | chris_n | s/big/bit/ |
| 14:20 | nengard | i have no trouble on the site itself - just that i'm not getting emails from it |
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| 14:36 | bigbrovar | HI guys I have registered for the amazon aws.amazon.com for amazonassoctag .. I have a secret access key and an accesskey. But I dont know I to obtain AmazonAssocTag |
| 14:37 | ebegin | What is your secret key? :) |
| 14:37 | bigbrovar | ebegin: em er I thought it supose to the secret ? |
| 14:37 | ebegin: oh I use my secret key? | |
| 14:38 | ebegin | Nope. I was kidding about the secret key. |
| 14:38 | bigbrovar | ebegin: any idea how to get the AmazonAssocTag? |
| 14:39 | ebegin | it is usually displayed in your amazon account |
| 14:41 | bigbrovar | ebegin: hmm I just cant seem to find it.. maybe its in my aws-profile\ |
| 14:43 | ebegin: is this the same as AWS Account ID ? | |
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| 14:49 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: Do you know if one is working on circulation and smart-rules at the moment ? |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | in general, you mean? |
| 14:49 | hdl_laptop | in general and in bug fixing |
| 14:51 | In fact, we are enhancing that and found some problems with the present day situation : e.g. GetLoanLength is defaulted to 21 Why 21 ? By default (no rule defined), a checkout is... allowed. | |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt | well, Kyle has volunteered to be bug assignee for circ |
| 14:51 | but there's plenty of room for others to take ownership of circ | |
| 14:52 | hdl_laptop | Has he already worked on that ? |
| 14:52 | gmcharlt | and why 21? that's just a default added back in the mists of time - quite likely it is a pre-3.0 thing |
| 14:52 | well, Kyle has submitted various reserves and circ patches over the years | |
| 14:53 | and he did offline circ of course | |
| 14:53 | hdl_laptop | gmcharlt: yes... midst of ages |
| 14:53 | gmcharlt | but he tends to come and go as far as being active on koha-devel |
| 14:53 | hdl_laptop | and we also did one. |
| 14:56 | gmcharlt | well, if you want ot toss your hat in the ring to be assignee for circ components in BZ, I don't think anybody would object |
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| 15:02 | wizzyrea | so, how are we going about this bug squashing? |
| 15:02 | nengard | wizzyrea - put on some big shoes and start stomping :) |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 15:03 | well, a pull is probably in order before we start that | |
| 15:03 | nengard | yup |
| 15:03 | lots of commits last night and this morning | |
| 15:03 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: pretty much as nengard says - pick a bug that you can fix, assigned to yourself, make the patch, and submit it |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | better to upgrade or start fresh? |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt | either/or - it helps to have both upgrades and fresh installs tested |
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| 15:10 | ebegin | bigbrovar, it should be in Account » Security Credential |
| 15:12 | bigbrovar | ebegin: thanks |
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| 15:21 | nengard | chris_n - i just printed my first batch of patron cards!! You rock!! It's awesome :) |
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| 15:24 | chris_n | cool! |
| 15:25 | * chris_n | is looking for a dye-sublimation id card printer for a reasonable price |
| 15:26 | chris_n | and then will work toward coding that module to format for printing on that |
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| 15:32 | nengard | gmcharlt the patch for 4010 was applied, but not the patch for 4009 and they were both submitted in one patch --- was there a merge issue? or a reason one went through and the other didn't? |
| 15:33 | bigbrovar | It seems the language options for koha 3.0.5 is broken If I choose english and french the default language would be set to french and cant be changed from OPAC |
| 15:33 | Even if I select the english language options it still stays french | |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | nengard: what separate patch? the one submitted covered both - 'bug 4009 & 4010 add required fields' |
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| 15:33 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently |
| 15:34 | nengard | sorry - worded poorly - it was one patch but only 4010 was fixed and 4009 wasn't ... so the question is - is it possible my changes were overwritted by a merge issue? |
| 15:35 | owen | Hi all |
| 15:35 | nengard | morning owen! |
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| 15:38 | gmcharlt | nengard: I'm not seeing that 4009 is not fixed (sorry for the double negative) |
| 15:38 | i.e., it is prompt if you try to add a list with an empty title | |
| 15:39 | nengard | hmmm - well i can create a list without a title and i get no errors |
| 15:39 | apparently my system is just all screwy!!! | |
| 15:39 | i'll checkout a copy of just that file and see if that fixes it | |
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| 15:39 | owen | OPAC or staff client? |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | OPAC in the case of bug 4009 |
| 15:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently |
| 15:41 | nengard | owen - you are right, there is another bug i need to address -i was on the staff side - where there is no warning - off to report and patch |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | right, the you submitted was for the OPAC |
| 15:46 | hdl_laptop: unless I'm mistaken, I think 3609 is fixed | |
| 15:46 | hdl_laptop | bug 3069 |
| 15:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3069 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Koha Z39.50 client process discussion |
| 15:46 | gmcharlt | bug 3609 |
| 15:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3609 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien koha-fr.org, NEW, updatedatabase from 3.0.x, new acq permissions |
| 15:49 | hdl_laptop | i think it was an update problem on the database used |
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| 15:50 | gmcharlt | ok, then it can probalby be closed now - general DB udpate issues from 3.0.x to 3.2 can be added to bug 4141 if they still exist |
| 15:50 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0 |
| 15:51 | * owen | would love to get someone's opinion on Bug 4123 |
| 15:51 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | :( sysprefs say: [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.2] [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value $text in pattern match (m//) at /home/liz/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 198., referer: http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/[…]min/admin-home.pl |
| 15:54 | owen | I get that too wizzyrea |
| 15:55 | gmcharlt | ouch - I noticed that I allowed that CanBookBeRenewed update go through including an SQL query that didn't use placeholders fro everything |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | it looks like it changes the setting though |
| 15:56 | or not | |
| 15:56 | blerg. | |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | owen: re bug 4123, at first glance that big query on issuingrules shouldn't have been used in the first place |
| 15:58 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | instead, something like GetIssuingRule() should be used to look up the relevant rule |
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| 16:02 | gmcharlt | there are several other places in C4 where queries on issuingrules ought to be replaced by a central circ rule lookup function |
| 16:02 | so that the rules for handling checks on branchcode, itemtype, and categorycode can be done consistently | |
| 16:02 | owen | thanks for looking gmcharlt. I'll have to leave it to cleverer folk than myself. |
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| 16:04 | wizzyrea | sooo... how does one set the sysprefs with that error? |
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| 16:05 | gmcharlt | is it a particular syspref? |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | nozebra |
| 16:05 | owen | wizzyrea: You find that you can't set sysprefs? I get the error in my log but I haven't had problems saving prefs |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | could I turn off javascript? |
| 16:05 | it tells me internal server error | |
| 16:05 | it *looks* like it sets it | |
| 16:06 | but if you refresh, it's not set | |
| 16:06 | at least in my case | |
| 16:06 | I suppose I could dump the db and set it again at install time | |
| 16:06 | gmcharlt | hmm, not having any problem twiddling that syspref |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | gah |
| 16:07 | danielg | hi, daniel grobani at samuel merritt university here. i'll be lurking on & off during today to see what y'all are up to |
| 16:07 | gmcharlt | wecome danielg |
| 16:07 | owen | Hi danielg |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/Yjk1NTViNW |
| 16:07 | note the message log | |
| 16:08 | at the bottom | |
| 16:08 | owen | Interesting, I've never seen that before |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | and how it looks like it's set, but if you refresh it's off |
| 16:08 | gmcharlt | what do you get when you run md5sum admin/preferences.pl on the server? |
| 16:09 | and md5sum svc/config/systempreferences | |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | maybe this is actually the problem http://paste.workbuffer.org/112 |
| 16:11 | something about the searching of the sysprefs? | |
| 16:11 | because that's how I found it | |
| 16:12 | gmcharlt | yep, svc/config/systempreferences is what actually changes syspref values |
| 16:12 | what do you get when you run perl -c svc/config/systempreferences ? | |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | ah ty that is illuminating |
| 16:14 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "error" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/113 |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | is that a new requirement? |
| 16:15 | did I not properly read the readme | |
| 16:15 | >.< | |
| 16:17 | one moment, installing that little bugger | |
| 16:17 | * wizzyrea | feels really dumb |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | i installed the JSON perl module and it works now. Thanks gmcharlt for the diagnostic tip |
| 16:19 | (I haven't looked) is that a new requirement or is it documented that you need it? | |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: ok, cool - please file a bug, assigned to me, to write up or otherwise handle instructions for installing new perl modules that were since 3.0.0 |
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| 16:19 | wizzyrea | I'll take that as a no :) will do |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | it is a new requirement, and it's properly accounted for in the install scripts |
| 16:20 | what's missing are instructions for catching them all when you upgrade | |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | Ahh! I help! |
| 16:20 | :P | |
| 16:22 | there isn't a component for Upgrade, maybe we want one? (I'll put it under installation/command line) | |
| 16:22 | or installation/upgrade | |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | I've now renamed the two installation components to cover upgrades |
| 16:24 | wizzyrea | :D awesome thanks |
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| 16:32 | gmcharlt | owen: still with us? |
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| 16:33 | gmcharlt | @wunder 32605 |
| 16:33 | munin | gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 6.0�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). Lake Wind Advisory in effect from 9 am this morning to 7 PM this evening... |
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| 16:33 | gmcharlt | owen_: transitory, fortunately |
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| 16:33 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Bug squashing all day Wednesday, 10 Feburary 2010 | |
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| 16:34 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 16:34 | munin | gmcharlt: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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| 16:35 | owen | Grrr.... OPACXSLTResultsDisplay pref broken... |
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| 16:35 | wizzyrea_ | I'm adding this to the install.debian, it's correct right (it always annoyed me that it told you to go edit the file, but didn't tell you what to do to it) |
| 16:35 | Example (in most cases, this example would be the correct entry to have at the bottom of the file): | |
| 16:35 | [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser] | |
| 16:35 | http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 | |
| 16:35 | The parser you are using should be at the bottom of the file, the last listed entry. Otherwise, you may get errors. | |
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| 16:38 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "proposed INSTALL.debian change" (19 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/114 |
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| 16:39 | wizzyrea_ | zowie |
| 16:40 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
| 16:40 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -5.4�C (11:38 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... |
| 16:40 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea_: looks good; also check INSTALL.debian-lenny and INSTALL.ubuntu |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea_ | will do |
| 16:41 | (thanks, that one always grated me, I had to look it up every time) | |
| 16:42 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 16:42 | munin | nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 0.2�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Falling). Blizzard Warning in effect until midnight EST tonight... |
| 16:42 | nengard | jwagner looks like you get some relief before we do... |
| 16:43 | jwagner | We could use some. Third blizzard of the winter, and the second in four days. I like winter, but enough already! |
| 16:44 | Looks like about 6-8 new inches out there now, still coming down. The wind is the worst -- whiteout conditions all over and snow drifting everywhere. | |
| 16:45 | I've been trying for a month to get a new gas stove (heating kind, not cooking kind) installed. Finally got it scheduled for ... today. Ain't happening :-( | |
| 16:48 | nengard | oh no :( |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea_: btw, it looks like bug 3648 can be used for your patch |
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| 16:49 | wizzyrea_ | woot! |
| 16:49 | ^.^ | |
| 16:49 | * wizzyrea_ | stomps |
| 16:52 | * owen | too |
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| 17:04 | nengard | can anyone get the inventory tool to work? |
| 17:05 | it's not working for any options i select and it's not working for a CSV file of barcodes - and I know it worked because i documented it | |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | erg |
| 17:10 | send me your CSV and I'll try it | |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea at gmail | |
| 17:12 | nengard | wizzyrea it won't work for you - it's my barcodes :) |
| 17:12 | you won't have the same barcodes as me | |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | default data? |
| 17:13 | nm then | |
| 17:13 | :) | |
| 17:13 | nengard | i used this sql to generate the list |
| 17:13 | SELECT items.barcode FROM items LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio on (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE items.holdingbranch='CPL' | |
| 17:14 | like i said - it's the same one i used 16 versions ago to document the inventory tool and it worked A-OK | |
| 17:14 | :( | |
| 17:14 | bug reported | |
| 17:14 | maybe im' wrong and we can close it right away | |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | erm, that actually gave you data? because it gave me an empty file :/ |
| 17:15 | but, that could be my data | |
| 17:15 | I thought I imported the sample data but mayb enot | |
| 17:15 | guess that would explain why I don't get any search results :( | |
| 17:16 | nengard | yeah - it had a bunch of barcodes in it |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | gah, i'm feeling so dumb today |
| 17:16 | nengard | the sample data doesn't have items ... i don't think |
| 17:16 | i've added most of mine by hand | |
| 17:18 | Colin | nengard: You may want to add AND items.barcode IS NOT NULL if you want only bcs |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | grr, I think (perhaps selfishly and wrongly) that there should be sample items in the sample data |
| 17:18 | nengard | Colin, i can - but the CSV is not the problem .. the problem is the report in general - it doesn't work when i don't use a CSV either |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea - i agree | |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | optional to install, of course |
| 17:19 | actually, there should be a checkbox: give me a fully functioning catalog with sample patrons, bibs, and items, this is for testing" | |
| 17:19 | * chris_n | agrees |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | and it just installs everything you'd need for a demo/test install |
| 17:19 | * wizzyrea | grumbles |
| 17:19 | chris_n | one-click, instant library :-) |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | pretty much |
| 17:20 | chris_n: what do you do for items/testing? | |
| 17:20 | get data from your production serveR? | |
| 17:20 | chris_n | yup |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | bargle. |
| 17:20 | * chris_n | thought about writing a script to harvest records from LOC and build items for them automagically |
| 17:21 | chris_n | but I ran out of time |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | on the bright side, everything looks very crispy in the staff interface, nice job owen and all |
| 17:22 | nengard | okay the tool works if i select nothing and leave it at it's default |
| 17:22 | i do have an error log i'm adding to the bug report | |
| 17:22 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: it just needs somebody to contribute a small dataset |
| 17:22 | ideally, something coming from a real library so that the items look real | |
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| 17:23 | gmcharlt | auto-creating items is viable, sure, but having items that look like they come from a real shelflist would be nicer |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt I agree |
| 17:23 | well, you'd have to sanitize locations | |
| 17:24 | and all that | |
| 17:24 | to fit with the other default data | |
| 17:24 | * wizzyrea | thinks about this |
| 17:24 | has some very small libraries currently using koha | |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | single branch though :/ |
| 17:25 | jwagner | wizzyrea, grab data from two of them. Instant multi-library :-) |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | truf |
| 17:25 | gmcharlt | something between 1,000 and 5,000 bibs total would seem to be the right size |
| 17:25 | jwagner | We've thought about some kind of sample data set too, just haven't done anything about it. We randomized some data from one of our sites for a demo server, but it's not ideal. |
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| 17:26 | jwagner | The hard part with combining data is standardizing policies such as item types, locations, etc. Ideally, you'd like it to be clean & tidy. |
| 17:27 | nengard | okay I updated the inventory bug report: bug 4152 with my error log to help with debugging |
| 17:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4152 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, cannot run inventory |
| 17:28 | nengard | i know i'm supposed to be squashing bugs, not finding bugs ... but i was testing a bug that was patched and found this problem :( |
| 17:28 | owen | Today seems to be bug-finding day rather than bug-squashing day :( |
| 17:28 | (jinx) | |
| 17:28 | nengard | hehe |
| 17:28 | jwagner | Every time you squash one bug, two arise from the pulp? |
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| 17:30 | owen | Does squashing a dupe count? :P |
| 17:32 | jwagner | Depends on who was duped.... |
| 17:33 | owen | What is this new table "fieldmapping" and should it not be empty? |
| 17:33 | chris_n | is it typical practice to run the self checkout under a single account? |
| 17:34 | jwagner | @chris_n, you mean the initial staff login? |
| 17:34 | munin | jwagner: Error: "chris_n," is not a valid command. |
| 17:34 | jwagner | picky, picky |
| 17:34 | chris_n | yes |
| 17:35 | jwagner | I have a couple of sites that use the self-check, and they both use a single login ID for it, but there's no real reason it _has_ to be one ID. |
| 17:35 | owen | I see, new link on the Administration page, "Keyword to MARC Mapping" |
| 17:36 | (new to me anyway, I probably wasn't paying attention) | |
| 17:36 | jwagner | chris_n, one reason you might want to limit it (in practice) to a single login is security. I set up a separate user with restricted permissions, rather than having a full superuser ID logged in. |
| 17:37 | chris_n | jwagner: that was my concern |
| 17:37 | @dict bug | |
| 17:37 | munin | chris_n: wn, foldoc, jargon, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Bug \Bug\ (b[u^]g), v. t. to {annoy}; to bother or pester. [PJC] Bugaboo; wn: bug n 1: general term for any insect or similar creeping or crawling invertebrate 2: a fault or defect in a system or machine [syn: {glitch}] 3: a small hidden microphone; for listening secretly 4: insects with sucking mouthparts and forewings thickened (41 more messages) |
| 17:38 | jwagner | "sucking mouthparts"???? |
| 17:38 | chris_n, also see Bug 3738 for automating the login to self-check. | |
| 17:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3738 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Automate login to web-based self-check system |
| 17:38 | owen | nengard or anyone else, Do you know anything about "Keyword to MARC Mapping?" |
| 17:38 | nengard | owen no! but I do need to know about it for documenting purposes - i think i emailed the list to ask for help and never heard anythng |
| 17:38 | anything | |
| 17:40 | owen | Looks like subtitle display is broken because I don't have anything defined there |
| 17:40 | When I add a "mapping" for subtitle (245b) and the BKS framework, I get subtitle display | |
| 17:41 | But what other bits of info require mapping there? | |
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| 17:44 | schuster | chris_n - we use self check and the librarians use a low level generic login for circ and self check - it also helps because it sets the location |
| 17:45 | 245n | |
| 17:48 | gmcharlt | nengard: I've pushed a patch for 4152 |
| 17:48 | nengard | oo - okay will try again |
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| 17:49 | gmcharlt | the fix may or may not be relevant to the specific use case you reported (CSV import) |
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| 17:50 | nengard | gmcharlt, it fixed it with everything but the csv import ... |
| 17:51 | but it might be my file, so i'll try another file | |
| 17:53 | * nengard | lunching |
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| 17:56 | wizzyrea | oh, I like the layout changes to the inventory tool |
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| 18:01 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt: did this patch get in? |
| 18:01 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3419 | |
| 18:01 | or it didn't fix it or... | |
| 18:02 | * wizzyrea | is trying desperately to stomp :P |
| 18:02 | gmcharlt | not in yet |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | k |
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| 18:14 | gmcharlt | hi ccatalfo |
| 18:15 | ccatalfo | hey gmcharlt. Just dropping by to watch while i'll do other work. If I have time i'll be on later tonight and might be able to contribute something then. |
| 18:16 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 18:17 | nengard | hi ccatalfo!!! |
| 18:17 | ccatalfo | hey nengard! |
| 18:17 | * ccatalfo | can't remember the last time i was on #koha. *sigh* |
| 18:18 | nengard | munin probably knows :) |
| 18:18 | munin | nengard: Error: "probably" is not a valid command. |
| 18:18 | nengard | but i don't know the right command :) hehe |
| 18:18 | chris_n | howdy ccatalfo |
| 18:19 | ccatalfo | hey there chris_n |
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| 18:37 | gmcharlt | nengard: pushed followup for 4152 |
| 18:37 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt - will test as soon as i finish the help files i'm adding now :) |
| 18:38 | chris_n | owen about? |
| 18:38 | owen | Yes |
| 18:39 | chris_n | maxreserves is in the current sysprefs.sql |
| 18:39 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]493bc;hb=HEAD#l64 | |
| 18:41 | owen | chris_n: But it's getting removed in updatedatabase.pl. Which one wins? |
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| 18:41 | chris_n | I think we need to add a db update to add it back |
| 18:42 | but hdl_laptop would be the one to know if other code was changed rending it useless | |
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| 18:45 | gmcharlt | the intention is for maxreserves the syspref to go away |
| 18:46 | it moves down to the circ matrix level as the issuingrules.reservesallowed column | |
| 18:47 | chris_n | gmcharlt: so does that render bug 4045 invalid? |
| 18:47 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger foundations.edu, ASSIGNED, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 18:47 | owen | That's what bug 4045 is all about |
| 18:47 | The circ matrix lets the librarian define limits there, but those limits are not checked anywhere in the Koha code. | |
| 18:48 | gmcharlt | the ideal fix would be to have the remaining invocations of the old maxreserves syspref |
| 18:48 | chris_n | hdl_laptop told me the other day that work they were doing would address 4045 |
| 18:48 | but not in 3.2 | |
| 18:48 | gmcharlt | check the appropriate issuingrules.reservesallowed values |
| 18:48 | fredericd | gmcharlt: I begin to have something to allow preferences text translation |
| 18:48 | gmcharlt | fredericd++ |
| 18:48 | fredericd | I will do partial french translation afetr dining, and send a patch |
| 18:49 | it's pure insanity | |
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| 18:49 | chris_n | gmcharlt: I'll do that then |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thanks |
| 18:52 | chris_n: although as is too often the case, there is a pushing on a string aspect to it | |
| 18:53 | as the semantics of issuingrules is category/itemtype/branchcode | |
| 18:54 | and one could envision want category-only limits, or branch-only limits, etc. | |
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| 18:55 | chris_n | gmcharlt: to digress a bit: it also seems to me that all hard coded defaults should be transformed to sysprefs |
| 18:56 | gmcharlt | ultimately, yes, |
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| 19:04 | * chris_n | finds it interesting that owen has an alter-ego today :-) |
| 19:05 | owen | That's the me that is staying home because the weather is too bad to go out. |
| 19:05 | Hence, he's not contributing any work. | |
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| 19:07 | chris_n | hehe |
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| 19:08 | owen | In fact he's probably watching stuff on the DVR and deleting it before I get a chance to watch. |
| 19:09 | nengard | :) |
| 19:12 | chris | gmcharlt: bug 3797 |
| 19:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3797 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, The opac 404 page is sent with 200 headers |
| 19:12 | schuster | In reality it is probably his child on the computer while dad is tied up in a chair forced to watch Disney channel - wait maybe not forced... It's pretty cute. |
| 19:12 | chris | did the patch for this get lost? |
| 19:12 | chris_n | hey chris |
| 19:12 | chris | (the fact it sends 200's not 404's makes google et al beat the hell out of the opac when it doesnt need to) |
| 19:12 | heya chris_n | |
| 19:13 | * chris_n | finds it interesting that someone with a Ph.D. cannot unsubscribe from the list |
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| 19:14 | chris | and writes in huge red letters |
| 19:14 | that almost makes me want to subscribe them to more lists instead | |
| 19:14 | * chris | fights the urge and removes them |
| 19:14 | chris_n | hehe |
| 19:15 | jwagner | I used to work in a medical library. The more letters someone has after their name, the less their actual real-world skills. Or so it seemed.... |
| 19:15 | chris | heh, they arent even subscribed from that email address |
| 19:15 | nengard | chris i was going to reply - Remove yourself! |
| 19:15 | but I was a good girl | |
| 19:15 | chris | they already did |
| 19:15 | dorks | |
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| 19:30 | chris_n | owen: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2ead9cf376b90d570 |
| 19:30 | re keyword to MARC mapping | |
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| 19:30 | chris | thanks for pushing those patches galen |
| 19:30 | * chris | will test and close |
| 19:30 | gmcharlt | thx |
| 19:33 | chris | yep, all nice and 404'y now |
| 19:34 | owen | I wonder if this keyword-to-MARC-mapping is only enabled for subtitles so far |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | it's supposed to more general than that |
| 19:38 | owen | Given the construction in the template, I'm assuming it has to be set up on a case by case basis: <!-- TMPL_LOOP NAME="subtitle" --> <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="subfield" --><!-- /TMPL_LOOP --> |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | nengard: an idea popped in my head - should we call some sort of documentation day where developments are supposed to be in channel so tha tyou can bug them for documentation? |
| 19:39 | nengard | I WOULD LOVE THAT!!! |
| 19:40 | chris | nengard: can you check my update to bug 2918 please? |
| 19:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2918 critical, P3, ---, chris bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, No Place Hold Button if AllowHoldPolicyOverride OFF |
| 19:40 | owen | So far only references to "GetRecordValue('subtitle',...)" in the code |
| 19:41 | * chris_n | wonders if the fine charging interval will work correctly if I enter 0.041666667? |
| 19:42 | chris_n | which equals one hour |
| 19:43 | nope... INT | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | did bug 3655 ever get pushed? |
| 19:44 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3655 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Opac and News |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | there appears to be a patch |
| 19:49 | chris | ohhh sweet |
| 19:49 | po files for sysprefs | |
| 19:50 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: patch for 3655 is in HEAD |
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| 19:50 | richard | hi |
| 19:50 | chris | hi richard |
| 19:50 | richard | hi chris |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | sweet (just looking through all open bugs for 1. one that I could fix and 2. ones that are still open that could be closed (can I close them or does the submitter have to do it?) |
| 19:51 | chris | if you can test and confirm its fixed you can close |
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| 19:51 | wizzyrea | kool |
| 19:51 | nengard_ | oh boy - lost power - |
| 19:51 | gmcharlt | yep - submitter closing is the ideal |
| 19:51 | nengard_ | if I log off again - you know why |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | but if a decent interval has passed, feel free to close after testing |
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| 19:52 | wizzyrea | k |
| 19:55 | gmcharlt | chris: time to try an en-NZ syspref translation - good way of testing fredericd 's mechanism |
| 19:55 | chris | yep could do |
| 19:56 | ill apply the patches and give it a whirl | |
| 20:01 | sweet it makes the .po file just fine | |
| 20:01 | lemme translate it and apply that | |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | owen: about? |
| 20:03 | owen | Yes |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/NWY2OTZm |
| 20:03 | it's not like, dire :/ | |
| 20:05 | * owen | runs off to file a blocker bug |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | better do that - we'll kill the design pedants, kill them dead, if we let that stay in! |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | don't hit me |
| 20:07 | >.< | |
| 20:07 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:08 | jwagner | And I had one site that insisted on renaming Library Catalog to Keyword in that dropdown box.... |
| 20:08 | schuster | some webmistress' are just so darn picky... |
| 20:08 | jwagner | Yep. I feel that pickiness should be MY exclusive right! |
| 20:09 | owen | wizzyrea: Amazon.com has three pixels of padding there. Shall we do four just to prove we're better? |
| 20:09 | * jwagner | goes WOW -- major wind blast and lots of snow blowing around. Couldn't see the garage there for a minute. |
| 20:09 | schuster | Looking at the git instructions I have a question. So I have added the "Othername" feature to my 3.2 box. I should be able to git commit circulation.pl right? or can I get a quick tutorial |
| 20:10 | gmcharlt | btw, it'll be another 3-4 hours before I'm pushing patches to HEAD, but I'll try to get everything submitted today (that works!) pushed by the end of th enight |
| 20:10 | * chris_n | likes wissyrea's cool arrows and text balloons |
| 20:10 | jwagner | wissyrea??? |
| 20:11 | Has she lost her zing? | |
| 20:11 | schuster | or should I drive nengard_ crazy and ask her directly for assistance ;) |
| 20:11 | owen | chris_n: wizzyrea shelled out the extra money for NitPick Pro |
| 20:11 | chris_n | wizzyrea even :-) |
| 20:12 | gmcharlt | schuster: git add circ/circulation.pl (and any other files you changed) |
| 20:12 | then git commit | |
| 20:12 | chris_n | or git commit -a |
| 20:13 | nengard_ | huh? what? what's going on? I was on the phone |
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| 20:13 | wizzyrea | oh man... i've made him mad now |
| 20:14 | * chris_n | quickly hides the virtual snacks |
| 20:14 | * braedon|work | tries to find the virtual snacks, but fails |
| 20:15 | braedon|work | hmm, no pianohacker |
| 20:15 | still hiding from my hug | |
| 20:15 | schuster | then how does it get linked to bugs.koha.org? Bug 2930 ? |
| 20:15 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | schuster: two ways |
| 20:15 | owen | It might be too early braedon|work |
| 20:15 | gmcharlt | 1st, when you are asked to enter the commit message, format it something like this: |
| 20:16 | chris | what the heck |
| 20:16 | gmcharlt | first line: Bug 2930: add the other name to the CKO screen |
| 20:16 | second line: blank | |
| 20:16 | braedon|work | owen: what timezone is he in? |
| 20:16 | gmcharlt | third and subsequent lines: longer descriptoin of patch |
| 20:16 | chris | ahh found it |
| 20:16 | chris_n | longer descriptoin of patch++ |
| 20:16 | gmcharlt | 2nd part - after you create the patch file (using git format-patch origin) |
| 20:16 | owen | braedon|work: US/Mountain I think, but he usually doesn't come in until his afternoon |
| 20:16 | gmcharlt | send it to patches Koha.org |
| 20:17 | and also attach the patch to the bug | |
| 20:17 | chris | gmcharlt: found a bug in sysprefs, i cant change my language |
| 20:17 | but frederics patch works a treat if you get in the db and change the language by hand | |
| 20:17 | gmcharlt | en-US is good enough for the whole world! </bad_usian> |
| 20:18 | chris | there is a checkbox, changes to it don't stick tho |
| 20:18 | ill file a bug and attempt to fix it | |
| 20:18 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | chris: dumb question (i hit this earlier) JSON is installed right? |
| 20:19 | chris | yep |
| 20:19 | everything else works | |
| 20:19 | ie i can change other sys prefs | |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | i figured you wouldn't be such a nub as to have that problem, but had to ask |
| 20:20 | :) | |
| 20:21 | schuster | Last question - not sure I'll be able to do this from work but... when I do -- git addcirc/circulation.pl circulation.tmpl |
| 20:22 | There are 2 files that's all I have to do for those 2 items to be bundled in the patch? | |
| 20:22 | gmcharlt | fredericd: please check email - small license issue with pref-trans - why is it Perl instead of GPL2+ ? |
| 20:22 | schuster: yep - git add file1 file2 , etc. | |
| 20:23 | chris | seems to be a bug with any syspref controlled by a checkbox |
| 20:24 | schuster | Thanks - I've made notes... I also have a file for check-url.pl that works really cool |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | schuster have you seen http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 20:28 | schuster | yes I have it printed out but after the "do some work" section it only talks about if you want to submit everything you have modified. |
| 20:28 | I have specific files I want to send seperate so they can get attached to the bugs. | |
| 20:29 | so after I have done the git add - only those 2 files will be in my commit or will the things prior be in the commit as well? | |
| 20:30 | gmcharlt | only those two |
| 20:30 | schuster | ok cool. |
| 20:30 | gmcharlt | git status will show you what's staged to be committed |
| 20:32 | schuster | neat. |
| 20:39 | * gmcharlt | is pleased with bug-squashing so far - the number of blockers has in fact gone down |
| 20:39 | * jwagner | wishes I could contribute something besides snark :-( |
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| 20:42 | owen | gmcharlt, I just sent a patch for Bug 2970. Please check it carefully since it's my first try at a database revision. |
| 20:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | 2970=win |
| 20:43 | if that's fixed, I will be so excited | |
| 20:43 | owen | I hope my patch does the trick |
| 20:43 | fredericd | gmcharlt: no reason. It's just a cut and past... I will resubmit. |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | fredericd: thanks |
| 20:43 | fredericd | I can see a bug in the pref editor itself with DefaultClassificationSource preference |
| 20:44 | chris | there are a few litte bugs in it |
| 20:44 | im sure jesse can stomp them pretty fast though | |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | though he's been away the past few days |
| 20:45 | chris | yup |
| 20:45 | fredericd | I fill a bug for this little bug. What's jess's email? |
| 20:46 | chris | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4155 its on there |
| 20:46 | munin | 04Bug 4155: blocker, P1, ---, pianohacker gmail.com, NEW, Can't change the language of the staff client in system preferences |
| 20:47 | gmcharlt | owen: re 2970, need to update installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userpermissions.sql (and its kin) as well with the new permissions |
| 20:47 | owen | Okay. Kin? |
| 20:48 | chris | fr/mandatory et al |
| 20:48 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 20:48 | chris | just do it in english |
| 20:48 | and someone will translate it for you | |
| 20:48 | or you can ask on koha-translate | |
| 20:49 | you will need english, french, ukranian, russian and i think polish :) | |
| 20:49 | gmcharlt | another thing that needs a translation mechanism :) |
| 20:49 | chris | id just do them in english then mail the koha-translate list and say, there are some new strings that need to be translated |
| 20:49 | for now | |
| 20:50 | yup | |
| 20:50 | owen | ...but copy the English strings into the other lang files? |
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| 20:50 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 20:50 | chris | yup |
| 20:50 | owen | Okay. I'll do that and resubmit. |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | if they're awake, hdl_laptop are pretty quick to supply french in-channel |
| 20:51 | and I see that ebegin is around | |
| 20:51 | but it needn't hold up the patch | |
| 20:51 | ebegin | i'm here :) |
| 20:52 | what has to be translated? | |
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| 20:53 | owen | ebegin: Some new permissions |
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| 20:54 | owen | "Place holds for patrons" "Modify holds priority" "Place and modify holds for patrons" |
| 20:55 | Jo | Chris C not around by the looks of this |
| 20:55 | chris | ? |
| 20:57 | ebegin | owen: "Réserver pour des adhérents" "Modifier la priorité des réservations" "Ajout et modifications des réservations des adhérents" |
| 20:57 | owen | Thanks ebegin! |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | owen: do you see the diacritics? |
| 20:57 | chris | Jo: im here |
| 20:57 | ebegin | owen, unfortunatly, i don't speak ukranian, russian or polish :) |
| 20:57 | owen | gmcharlt: Yes |
| 20:58 | gmcharlt | k, just checking :) |
| 20:58 | ebegin | gmcharlt, good point :) |
| 20:59 | owen | Lots of granular permissions not translated yet in fr-FR |
| 20:59 | chris | might wanna file a bug for that |
| 20:59 | or email the translate list | |
| 20:59 | Jo | hola Chris |
| 20:59 | couldn't see you on the list | |
| 20:59 | * owen | took enough French in high school to know to look for the diacritics but not enough to actually translate |
| 21:00 | ebegin | owen, this is good for both fr-FR and fr-CA |
| 21:00 | owen | No fr-CA in /installer/data/mysql/, I'm not sure why only certain languages are |
| 21:02 | chris | because people have translated them |
| 21:02 | only the ones that people have sent patches for are there | |
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| 21:04 | * gmcharlt | welcomes wizzyrea 's clone |
| 21:04 | liz-nekls | hi again |
| 21:04 | Jo | hi Liz |
| 21:04 | liz-nekls is now known as wizzyre_laptop | |
| 21:04 | wizzyre_laptop | man what a day >.< |
| 21:04 | hi jo :) | |
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| 21:10 | chris_n | bbl |
| 21:12 | * braedon|work | is compiling Koha on a local VM - it is making his computer REALLY laggy :( |
| 21:14 | thinks hyperthreading is useless :P | |
| 21:15 | gmcharlt | alas, hyperthreading helps I/O bound processes ... not at all :) |
| 21:16 | braedon|work | yeah |
| 21:16 | give me more real cores! | |
| 21:17 | wizzyre_laptop | hm, my mac handles hard VM tasks just fine |
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| 21:17 | braedon|work | i don't know how i lived without multicore cpus |
| 21:17 | this is a p4 pc | |
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| 21:17 | braedon|work | not the best |
| 21:19 | fine at home on my phenom II x4 955 :) | |
| 21:20 | seriously considered taking it to work a few times | |
| 21:22 | so.. how is the bug squashing going all? does someone have a counter or something? | |
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| 21:23 | gmcharlt | @later tell chris_n regarding patch for 4102 - did you run it through perltidy? if so, I'd prefer that whitespace-only patches be separate from ones that change functionality or fix bugs |
| 21:23 | munin | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:53 | schuster | gmcharlt - just sent my patch for Othername on cko - let me know if you get it. Now I will go and attempt to attach it to bugzilla. |
| 21:54 | well looks like that will be a tomorrow job. I'll also edit and send the check-url.pl - tomorrow. How exciting!!! | |
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| 22:11 | chris_n | gmcharlt: I'll resubmit tomorrow |
| 22:12 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thanks |
| 22:12 | * chris_n | has vim automatically remove whitespaces on save |
| 22:15 | brendan | ah finally got a little bit of time free (will do a little log reading - then some bug squashing) |
| 22:17 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 22:17 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (2:12 PM PST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:17 | brendan | chris ? can you beat me :) |
| 22:17 | chris | doubt it, its raining today |
| 22:18 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 22:18 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:18 | brendan | oooh barely... |
| 22:18 | :) | |
| 22:19 | chilts | our lovely summer :) |
| 22:19 | Jo | pooring down here to |
| 22:20 | brendan | you should all come here --> absolutely amazing outside |
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| 22:25 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 22:25 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 2.0�C (5:01 PM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening... |
| 22:29 | magnus_away | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 22:29 | munin | magnus_away: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0�C (10:50 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:34 | braedon|work | @wunder tauranga nz |
| 22:34 | munin | braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 23.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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| 22:56 | imp | @wunder hannover de |
| 22:56 | munin | imp: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 22:56 | imp | @wunder hannover germany |
| 22:56 | munin | imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -5.0�C (11:20 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:56 | imp | hmm, something is wrong, norway is a little bit warmer ;) |
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| 23:13 | * gmcharlt | just realized that we forgot to hold the vote for Translation Manager :) |
| 23:13 | brendan | +1 |
| 23:13 | chris | heh |
| 23:13 | whoops | |
| 23:14 | brendan | well can't we hold it now? |
| 23:14 | I think there is only one person who's up for it | |
| 23:15 | I'll offer my services as a backup if needed :) | |
| 23:15 | gmcharlt | yeah, frederic is the sole candiate now |
| 23:15 | cool | |
| 23:15 | * brendan | second's frederic |
| 23:16 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 23:16 | brendan | +1 |
| 23:16 | heh | |
| 23:16 | gmcharlt | I'll send an email to the lists about this, and if anybody feels a strong desire to -1, they can do so via email |
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| 23:16 | brendan | I think that takes it :) |
| 23:16 | sounds good to me | |
| 23:19 | gmcharlt -> that felt like one of those nextel commercials; the ones where "what if the fire-department ran court" | |
| 23:19 | "what if the fire-department ran koha" | |
| 23:20 | chris_n | +1 # for frederic |
| 23:21 | collum_ | +1 for frederic |
| 23:21 | hdl_laptop | +1 |
| 23:24 | gmcharlt | ok, email sent |
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| 23:39 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
| 23:40 | chris_n | bbl |
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