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| 00:25 | brendan | anybody got any ideas for me to trace down this issue. When sending overdues, all the emails that come as a digest or as a text attachment - print the <items.content> |
| 00:26 | chris | yeah you dont want that, you want |
| 00:26 | lemme find it | |
| 00:26 | brendan | all of the ones that are individual emails - the <items.content> does not print |
| 00:26 | chris | yeah you dont want that for individual you want |
| 00:27 | biblio.title i think | |
| 00:27 | try that | |
| 00:27 | brendan | the weird thing is that on all of my hosted servers -- this is not a problem |
| 00:27 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 00:27 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.6�C (7:23 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:27 | chris | different versions? |
| 00:27 | brendan | and on other servers that we all set up by this individual |
| 00:28 | all same versions | |
| 00:28 | chris | weird |
| 00:28 | brendan | yeah weirdness |
| 00:28 | chris_n2 | weirdness-- |
| 00:28 | brendan | heh |
| 00:29 | so reading through the cronjob -- their are options to list out which fields to print -- i.e biblio, title, etc. | |
| 00:29 | I was wondering if that was an option or if that was depecated | |
| 00:31 | -itemscontent <list of fields> | |
| 00:31 | (was also thinking that if I can get access to that machine - I may just swap out the code for that section with the code from head) | |
| 00:32 | then let her rip and see if I'm able to repeat | |
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| 02:28 | * chris_n2 | watches the people come and go |
| 02:29 | rhcl1 | here or out the window or something? |
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| 02:39 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 02:39 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.3�C (6:35 PM PST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:41 | rhcl_home | @wunder 64505 |
| 02:41 | munin | rhcl_home: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -15.2�C (8:38 PM CST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 9 am Wednesday to 6 PM CST Thursday... |
| 02:41 | rhcl_home | -15.2 C. It's chilly outside. |
| 02:41 | chris | sure is |
| 02:42 | crazy cold | |
| 02:43 | rhcl_home | Cold enough that just walking around outside hurts your lungs a little |
| 02:44 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 02:44 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:54 | chris_n2 | @wunder 28334 |
| 02:54 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.2�C (9:51 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:55 | * chris_n2 | wishes for C4::ErrorHandler |
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| 02:58 | chris_n2 | with browser and log methods |
| 02:58 | among others | |
| 03:00 | chris | there is a good error handling module |
| 03:00 | sorry error logging module | |
| 03:00 | Log::Log4perl | |
| 03:02 | id make the module use that | |
| 03:05 | brendan | ah getting close to linux.conf chris |
| 03:05 | chris | yup |
| 03:05 | im all registered now | |
| 03:05 | brendan | good thing |
| 03:05 | chris | presenting at the education mininconf on koha too |
| 03:05 | brendan | oh excellent |
| 03:05 | any other highlights? | |
| 03:07 | chris | http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule |
| 03:07 | some good talks | |
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| 03:09 | chris | lol |
| 03:09 | http://freedomisnothingtofear.[…]ipes/a/office.jpg | |
| 03:09 | brendan | you going to see "code rush" |
| 03:09 | chris | the sysadmins have built a fort |
| 03:10 | brendan | heh |
| 03:10 | yeah some interesting looking talks there | |
| 03:11 | Git wrangling | |
| 03:11 | "The Wolrd's Worst Inventions" feature MARC | |
| 03:11 | whoops featuring MARC | |
| 03:12 | chris | heh |
| 03:16 | * chris_n2 | wonders what average screen resolution a koha user runs their monitor at |
| 03:16 | brendan | yeah that kind of question drives me crazy sometimes |
| 03:18 | chris_n2 | I work at some unearthly high resolution and my browser interface layouts do strange things at lower "normal" resolutions |
| 03:18 | it would be nice to know at what resolution they should be designed | |
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| 03:21 | brendan | yeah I'm guessing that should be discussed in some of the coding-guidelines docs |
| 03:22 | I think nengard was just building up some steam to start tackling some of those issues | |
| 03:22 | masonj | the default screen rez these days is 1280X1024 , i think |
| 03:22 | chris_n2 | that's sort of what I was thinking |
| 03:23 | brendan | I'd hope so, but I still know some people on dial up |
| 03:23 | masonj | up from 1024x768, circa 2005 |
| 03:23 | brendan | so I guess that's a good average |
| 03:23 | chris_n2 | dial up... what's that? ;-) |
| 03:23 | brendan | heh |
| 03:23 | yeah my reaction too | |
| 03:23 | masonj | i guess 1024x768 is the safe option |
| 03:24 | chris_n2 | although I do maintain dial in management capability on several systems I admin |
| 03:24 | just in case | |
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| 03:31 | thd | chris_n2: assuming nothing about minimal screen resolution would be best. |
| 03:31 | chris_n2 | thd: that would make for some very sorry looking layouts I think |
| 03:32 | thd | chris_n2: minimal resolution on a pocket sized device may be the computer of the future with some clever way of having full keyboard input |
| 03:32 | chris_n2 | although I do know some web designers who assume very low resolution |
| 03:33 | thd: at that point I think we'd have to feed the browser results based on agent type | |
| 03:33 | * chris_n2 | wonders how Koha looks on a blackberry or iphone |
| 03:33 | thd | chris_n2: 800 x 600 was the most common resolution of public access computer terminals which kados had found for libraries adopting Koha three years ago |
| 03:34 | chris_n2 | ahh... I'm thinking primarily in terms of the staff-client side not the opac |
| 03:34 | thd | kados expressed the view at that time that we should design for 800 x 600 |
| 03:34 | the staff may not necessarily have anything different | |
| 03:35 | I am very concerned about what happens when fonts are magnified for disability access | |
| 03:36 | I have worked with people who have had vision problems and if things do not scroll properly with font magnification it is a real problem | |
| 03:37 | * chris_n2 | finds a nasty bug in the patron card code :-( |
| 03:37 | thd | I myself spent a very long time recovering from an injury requiring me to be very far from the screen and had to use low resolution and font magnification to use a computer |
| 03:38 | richard | it depends a bit on the browser. msie8 and ff3 magnify the whole page rather than just the font - so you end up having to scroll right to see it all |
| 03:38 | thd | good point richard |
| 03:39 | I am pleased to have overcome my unpleasantly long disability | |
| 03:40 | However, I have learnt what coping with a disability is like | |
| 03:40 | * thd | exercises his able body |
| 03:40 | thd is now known as thd-away | |
| 03:41 | * chris_n2 | also notes that koha has been developed primarily for FF rather than other browsers |
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| 03:51 | chris_n2 | howdy Amit |
| 03:57 | Amit | hi chris_n2 |
| 03:57 | hi brendan, chris | |
| 03:58 | brendan | hi amit |
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| 04:55 | chris_n2 | nasty bug fixed... |
| 04:55 | g'night #koha | |
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| 05:21 | brendan | g'night #koha |
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| 05:47 | liz-nekls | hey peps |
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| 06:35 | * chris | pops in briefly |
| 06:42 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:43 | Amit_laptop | heya Ropuch |
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| 07:29 | nicomo | morning koha, morning all |
| 07:33 | magnusenger | good morning nicomo et al |
| 07:34 | nicomo | heya magnusenger how are you? |
| 07:35 | magnusenger | i'm fine, looking forward to above freezing temperatures in a couple of days and trying to work out some xslt weirdness - and you? |
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| 07:56 | nicomo | magnusenger: actually waiting for the snow to melt |
| 07:57 | magnusenger | nicomo: you'r in good company then, i guess... |
| 07:57 | nicomo | yes, but living where I leave that's annoying |
| 07:57 | it's supposed to snow like 2hrs per year | |
| 07:58 | not days | |
| 07:59 | magnusenger | well that's global warming for you... ;-) |
| 08:00 | hdl_laptop | hi |
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| 08:07 | paul_p | hello world |
| 08:14 | magnusenger | hello biblibre |
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| 08:57 | chipsy | hi can anyone describe how to use barcode & barcode reader with koha |
| 09:05 | Ropuch | I'm not sure I understand your question |
| 09:06 | Barcode is used to identify an item, you print the barcode on the label, then when checking in/out a book you just need to scan it | |
| 09:07 | Instead or typing a number/title or whatever | |
| 09:07 | Just like while shopping | |
| 09:08 | ;> | |
| 09:09 | chipsy | do i have to turn any setting on |
| 09:10 | Ropuch | No afaik |
| 09:10 | Barcode is simply device | |
| 09:11 | Plug barcode scanner, open test editor and scan some isbn or whatever | |
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| 12:32 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
| 12:32 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 12:32 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -5.7�C (7:30 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising). |
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| 12:39 | chris_n | hi jwagner |
| 12:39 | Ropuch | Hi chris_n, jwagner |
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| 12:41 | chris_n | g'morning (or the appropriate TOD) Ropuch |
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| 13:39 | schuster | Hey all. |
| 13:40 | owen | Hi schuster |
| 13:41 | schuster | Getting ready to bundle up! supposed to be REALLY cold here for Texas tomorrow! |
| 13:45 | owen | What's really cold for Texas? |
| 13:46 | @wunder 45701 | |
| 13:46 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -6.0�C (8:34 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:48 | magnusenger | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 13:48 | munin | magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0�C (2:20 PM CET on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:49 | owen | hdl_laptop or paul_p: Should the OPAC search history feature be available to non-logged-in users? |
| 13:50 | nengard | wizzyrea - will the website upgrade make all links to content be broken? I have linked to your site a lot in the new manual since it had so much info :) |
| 14:17 | hdl_laptop | owen: I think so |
| 14:21 | owen | hdl_laptop: So you disagree with my bug report suggesting that search history should be limited to logged in users? I'm worried that users will see that as an invasion of their privacy. |
| 14:22 | nengard | owen - i'm with you - cause that means the history might be kept on public computers without people logging in first |
| 14:22 | hdl_laptop | you can delete it with a click iirc. |
| 14:22 | owen | I realize that it's not much different than clicking the back button, but it seems more overt to provide a link. |
| 14:23 | hdl_laptop | owen: this was asked... So we did :D |
| 14:23 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:23 | hdl_laptop | Maybe should be disabled-able by syspref ? |
| 14:23 | owen | hdl_laptop: The bug is either (1) Non-logged-in users have their searches logged or (2) Non-logged-in users have no way to view and clear their search history (because the search history link doesn't display at the top) |
| 14:24 | hdl_laptop | matts_: ? |
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| 14:27 | matts_ | In fact, the link should appear when the first search as a non-logged user is performed |
| 14:27 | so the bug is (2) | |
| 14:37 | owen | hdl_laptop and matts_ : setting aside the issue of whether anonymous search terms should stored, I think some thought needs to be given to how the history is presented to the logged-in user |
| 14:38 | If I log in and view my search history, some of those terms are mine, and some are terms searched for by the person who came before me. | |
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| 14:39 | hdl_laptop | owen: use case is this : |
| 14:39 | you first search things... And then, you think.... Oh I forgot to login.... login and you gett all your search history in. | |
| 14:40 | owen | Won't it be confusing to the user if they log in to a public OPAC terminal and find a history of search terms that they don't remember searching for? |
| 14:41 | hdl_laptop | BUT.... matts_ Maybe we should have a timeout (say 10 minutes) for search_history to be flushed ... |
| 14:41 | matts_ | A timeout seems a good idea to me... |
| 14:42 | hdl_laptop | owen: could be. but when they login with their computer, they will enjoy that feature. |
| 14:42 | owen | It's a two-layered system, correct? Search terms input by non-logged-in users are stored in cookies, terms input by logged-in users are stored in the database? |
| 14:42 | hdl_laptop | don't you think ? |
| 14:42 | yep | |
| 14:42 | owen | I agree hdl_laptop, I'm not sure how to handle both cases. |
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| 14:43 | hdl_laptop | hi brendan |
| 14:43 | owen | Hi brendan |
| 14:43 | brendan | goodmorning hdl_laptop owen et. al |
| 14:43 | owen | Perhaps we should do a couple of things: 1) Add a system preference to block access to search history for non-logged-in uers |
| 14:43 | * rach | is passing through |
| 14:43 | owen | 2) Change the display of search terms to indicate which terms are stored long-term based on userid? |
| 14:44 | (not sure if (2) is possible) | |
| 14:48 | rach | owen I think 2 would just add visual complexity to the user |
| 14:48 | if they use a public OPAC they would expect there to be "remnants" of other users | |
| 14:48 | if they use their own PC then they will never "know" that there are 2 things going on | |
| 14:49 | owen | But a logged-in user will see both a combination of their stored (semi-permanent) search history and whatever random terms they picked up from other users that day |
| 14:49 | rach | wouldn't a logged in user only see their logged in stuff? |
| 14:50 | owen | No, a logged in user sees their logged in stuff and whatever was searched for during that session before they logged in |
| 14:51 | rach | so shoudl they only see their logged in stuff? |
| 14:51 | owen | ...except for hdl_laptop's example use case: Someone does some seaches, then remembers to log in. Should their previous searches be cleared at that point? They'll have lost that history. |
| 14:52 | * owen | isn't sure there is a perfect solution here |
| 14:52 | rach | if you time out the unlogged stuff, then you would only see someone elses if you sat down at an opac they had just vacated? |
| 14:53 | * rach | can check at her library what they do |
| 14:53 | owen | Right, so if I'm stalking you I'll swoop in as soon as you finish. ;) |
| 14:53 | rach | but they are pretty agressive at timeing you out |
| 14:53 | hdl_laptop | owen : as soon as they login, iirc (matts_ confirm), search history is stored in database. |
| 14:54 | owen | Ah, I see. So at that point I've permanently stored the search history of everyone who used the OPAC that day! |
| 14:54 | matts_ | yes |
| 14:54 | rach | on a per person basis though |
| 14:54 | hdl_laptop | owen: mmm... timeout HAS to be implemented |
| 14:55 | matts_ | But the button for clearing history is very visible when it appears (on the top right, near "Log In"... So I guess the user will notice it when he performs his first search... |
| 14:57 | owen | Some will, some won't |
| 14:57 | matts_ | Indeed |
| 14:58 | rach | if you're worried about privacy then you can't rely on that |
| 14:59 | for a public opac | |
| 14:59 | if you think it might just be anoying then maybe you could | |
| 15:01 | * rach | heads off back to bed |
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| 15:22 | hdl_laptop | oopps I missed Kyle |
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| 15:52 | chris_n | thd: I forwarded an email too you just now |
| 15:53 | owen | hdl_laptop, matts_ : How does the "current session" versus "previous session" work with search history? I thought it was by date, but that's obviously not the case. |
| 15:54 | hdl_laptop | matts_: ? |
| 15:55 | matts_ | owen, hdl_laptop, it is session-based... |
| 15:56 | owen | matts_: If I log out and log in again that is considered a new session? |
| 15:56 | hdl_laptop | yes... For the system... yes. |
| 15:56 | matts_ | yes |
| 15:57 | hdl_laptop | maybe a display by date could be more interesting. |
| 15:58 | owen | Google's search history feature would be a good thing to look at for ideas. |
| 15:58 | I think a table for "today" and a table for "previous days" might be better since the concept of a "session" is a little bit obscure to users. | |
| 15:58 | matts_ | hmm... Not so sure... I could make some search about a topic at one time of the day and other searches about another topic later on the day... They would cleary be separated, session-based... |
| 16:01 | owen | "current session," "earlier today," and "previously?" |
| 16:05 | thd | chris_n: Thanks |
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| 16:07 | chris_n | thd: and another |
| 16:11 | thd | chris_n: Thanks again |
| 16:11 | chris_n: I have very many subject based mailing addresses | |
| 16:12 | chris_n | ahh... is there another you'd prefer me to use? |
| 16:12 | thd | chris_n: It would help my attention to such messages if you would send them to koha AT agogme.com |
| 16:13 | chris_n | right, np |
| 16:13 | thd | chris_n: I actually use a separate address for each mailing list |
| 16:14 | chris_n: When I am busy it can take me a very long time to pay attention to my mailing list mailboxes | |
| 16:15 | chris_n: When I am busy, I can also neglect my email altogether and I tend not use it as a substitute for the telephone like many people do now. | |
| 16:16 | chris_n: I am almost always available by telephone which may be helpful if I am not attending to something. | |
| 16:16 | * chris_n | goes so far as to neglect the telephone on occasion :-) |
| 16:17 | schuster | owen - question about a blog post - http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?cat=6 |
| 16:18 | owen | Which post? |
| 16:18 | schuster | dealing with the edit/delete script for edit items - |
| 16:18 | owen | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=298 ? |
| 16:19 | schuster | Yes that one - can I just take the script that is there and put it into the staff javascript area in the system preferences or do I have to do something special to get it to show up? |
| 16:20 | owen | Have you tried it without success? It's been a while since I wrote that so I don't recall |
| 16:22 | You definitely don't want to just copy and paste the code in the blog post. | |
| 16:22 | It's too generic | |
| 16:23 | (Now that I look at it again after 6mo.) | |
| 16:23 | $("td").click(function(event){ | |
| 16:23 | That targets *every* <td> anywhere. Not what you want to do. | |
| 16:25 | That post was more proof-of-concept than do-it-yourself in nature. | |
| 16:25 | schuster | OK - I copied the code and dropped it in and nothing happens on my test environment so that was why I was asking. |
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| 16:32 | chipsy | guys i'm having this error when trying to start pazpar :- 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance> ... </relevance> 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. |
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| 16:35 | dreece | I know this is a stupid, loaded question, but how long does it usually take for rebuild_zebra.pl to run.. say with... 25,000 new entries? |
| 16:36 | owen | dreece: Do you ask because it has run for a long time and you're wondering when it will stop? :) |
| 16:36 | dreece | indeed. haha |
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| 16:36 | owen | How long? |
| 16:37 | dreece | I left it go overnight, had to reboot the server because the Swp had maxed out and was going so slowly. |
| 16:37 | Now it's still running... been three hours since reboot. | |
| 16:37 | owen | That definitely seems too long, although I'm not a Zebra expert. |
| 16:37 | dreece | Bah |
| 16:37 | This stinks. haha | |
| 16:38 | chipsy | can anyone help out with this pazpar error |
| 16:39 | But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. | |
| 16:40 | hdl_laptop | chipsy: install yaz-icu |
| 16:41 | chipsy | uusind cpan? |
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| 16:42 | chipsy | i mean i should install yaz-icu using cpan |
| 16:43 | hdl_laptop | chipsy: no aptitude |
| 16:43 | no, aptitude | |
| 16:43 | chipsy | thanks |
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| 16:55 | chipsy | hdl_laptop i got this error Following packages haven't been found on the medium: yaz-icu |
| 16:58 | hdl_laptop | chipsy: Check if you have Indexdata repositories as sources. You should have them in order to install pazpar2 so I guess you have them installed. |
| 17:00 | chris_n | wow, no developer/general meetings for koha from 31 Aug 07 to 6 May 09 |
| 17:00 | is this true, or have some notes been inadvertently omitted from the wiki? | |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | nengard re:website We are in the process of rebuilding it |
| 17:06 | nengard | wizzyrea - will the links remain the same as they were before? |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | so no, you should be fine linking to it |
| 17:06 | yesm | |
| 17:06 | nengard | ah |
| 17:06 | wonderful! | |
| 17:06 | and I'm sorry you have to rebuild :( | |
| 17:06 | what happened | |
| 17:07 | hdl_laptop | owen : line 486 in opac-search.pl : |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | loooong story. :) will tell you later when I have more time |
| 17:07 | hdl_laptop | expires=>"10m" |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | will make a good halloween systemadmin story |
| 17:07 | nengard | oh my :( |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | with flashlights pointed at faces and oooooohs and aaaaaaahs |
| 17:07 | hdl_laptop | set the cookie for search expires in 10 minutes |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | ah, it could be worse |
| 17:07 | it could be raining | |
| 17:07 | :) | |
| 17:08 | hdl_laptop | chris_n unfortunately true |
| 17:08 | mmm... No | |
| 17:08 | we had some in 08 | |
| 17:08 | chris_n | everyone was too busy I guess |
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| 17:09 | dreece | I now have 8 threads of rebuild_zebra.pl running. |
| 17:09 | something is not right. | |
| 17:09 | chris_n | hdl_laptop: no minutes from those 08 meetings? |
| 17:09 | or have I missed them? | |
| 17:10 | hdl_laptop | chris_n.... don't know |
| 17:10 | dreece: you should stop all. | |
| 17:10 | or you may have a problem. | |
| 17:11 | * nengard | doesn't know if she likes this new 'off' trick - i say make it all public - even the bad stuff :) |
| 17:11 | hdl_laptop | Also, using -x -nosanitize with biblios is increasing performances. |
| 17:12 | dreece | hdl_laptop: doing that now. |
| 17:12 | i just got rid of the crontab. | |
| 17:13 | chipsy | hdl_laptop i dont have indexdata as repo |
| 17:14 | hdl_laptop | add that |
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| 17:30 | chipsy | hdl_laptop i install yaz-3.0.52 |
| 17:31 | hdl_laptop | yaz-icu |
| 17:32 | chipsy | i couldn't add the repository |
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| 17:54 | chipsy | hdl_laptop i install yaz-icu but i still get thesame error |
| 17:57 | hdl_laptop | disable relevancy |
| 17:58 | chipsy | how |
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| 18:20 | chipsy | guys i still get this error when i try to start pazpar: pazpar2 -f pazpar2.cfg 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance> ... </relevance> 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. |
| 18:21 | chris | wow John_Brice_MPL ... long time no see |
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| 18:34 | chris_n | bbiab |
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| 19:00 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:00 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:57 AM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). |
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| 19:15 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 19:15 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 6.2�C (2:13 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:29 | nengard | hi all - i need a git tip - how do I pull just one file from the git repo? For some reason my install says I have edited a few files that I didn't :) or don't remember editing - and I don't want them to end up in my commit |
| 19:29 | so I want to pull the files as they are not in the repo | |
| 19:30 | and then do my patch | |
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| 19:31 | richard | hi |
| 19:31 | nengard | i think chris told me how to do this once - and I didn't write it down |
| 19:36 | chris_n | nengard: I *think* you want 'git checkout /path/to/file' where the file is the one you want to roll back to the current HEAD... |
| 19:37 | nengard | thanks chris_n I'll try that |
| 19:38 | woo hoo - that worked :) | |
| 19:38 | patch submitted with help file updates | |
| 19:39 | chris_n | another minor disaster cleverly averted ;-) |
| 19:41 | Ropuch | :) |
| 19:46 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 19:47 | owen | What does it mean when you get a "permanent system error" message back from a z39.50 search? Is that a z39.50 message coming from the search target? |
| 19:48 | Hm, I guess that must be the case: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agenc[…]fns/bib1diag.html | |
| 19:51 | chris | yep |
| 19:52 | owen | I wonder if there could be a way for Koha to track a patron's card numbers in the case where they get a replacement card and change numbers? |
| 19:52 | chris | HLT use the notes field for that |
| 19:53 | brendan | I saw sekjal do something with that too |
| 19:54 | I think if I remember correctly - his migration from "whatever" had that issue as well | |
| 19:54 | owen you may want to ask him what he ended up doing | |
| 20:00 | sekjal | owen: we did have multiple barcodes for patrons coming over from our previous ILS. We kept the "most current", which was the highest number value, and stashed the others in a Patron Attribute 'History' |
| 20:01 | owen | Interesting! Sounds like a great use of patron attributes |
| 20:02 | collum | It would also be nice to have the date of the replacement. We measure abuse by the number of cards that are replaced in a year. |
| 20:02 | owen | "abuse?" |
| 20:03 | collum | 5 card replacements in a month is abuse. |
| 20:03 | 5 card replacements in 10 years is not abuse. | |
| 20:03 | owen | Do you charge for replacement? |
| 20:04 | collum | Not unless we determine that there is abuse. |
| 20:04 | owen | I see. We charge no matter what. |
| 20:04 | chris | we charge $2 if they swear at the card, if they punch it is $9 |
| 20:04 | owen | :) |
| 20:04 | collum | :) |
| 20:05 | owen | If they hand it over and it's taped together with clear tape that constitutes criminal neglect. |
| 20:05 | chris | heh |
| 20:06 | nengard | oh boy |
| 20:07 | collum | I'm just glad I'm not in circulation. It's too complicated. |
| 20:07 | nengard | too much dealing with people |
| 20:07 | I don't do that well - dealing with the public | |
| 20:09 | brendan | that's good to know nengard |
| 20:09 | nengard | LOL |
| 20:09 | chris | hehe |
| 20:10 | owen | You can tell--she avoids speaking in public at all costs |
| 20:10 | nengard | I do well in training and with colleagues - but when i was in retail I was no good |
| 20:10 | chris | "just buy it already, sheesh" |
| 20:10 | nengard | speaking at people is diff than speaking to people |
| 20:10 | brendan | oh yeah retail is horrible |
| 20:10 | nengard | well circ is a lot like retail |
| 20:10 | brendan | I think circ is like bartending |
| 20:10 | owen | Complete with the sob stories |
| 20:11 | * chris_n | looks to be sure he is on the right side of the circ desk |
| 20:11 | collum | I was washing dishes at a hospital when I was 15. Found a dollar on the ground and turned it in to the boss. |
| 20:11 | The next week I was a cashier. Seesh! | |
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| 20:19 | nengard | directtv guy just left - we now officially have HDTV :) |
| 20:19 | if you followed my tweets you know it was a struggle! | |
| 20:20 | owen | Congratulations for taking on The Main and winning |
| 20:20 | Sorry, The Man. | |
| 20:20 | You know the one. | |
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| 20:29 | nengard | owen that was all my hubby - he was mean mean mean - I've never seen him so tough :) hehe and in the end we won |
| 20:29 | owen | Never come between a man and his HDTV |
| 20:30 | nengard | LOL |
| 20:30 | I guess not | |
| 20:30 | but I'm the TV junky in the house - he's more about the computer | |
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| 21:37 | * chris_n | has had all the fun he can for one day and so heads home |
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| 22:03 | liz-nekls | wow seriously this is the quietest afternoon evar |
| 22:06 | schuster | I was in meetings ;) |
| 22:09 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 22:12 | chris | heh |
| 22:16 | schuster | by all have to go home and stoke the fire supposed to be a high of 30 tomorrow. |
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| 22:16 | chris | thats below freezing eh? |
| 22:27 | hmm | |
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| 22:43 | chris | https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bi[…]B&T=0&O=D&P=46873 |
| 23:02 | rhcl | @wunder 64505 |
| 23:02 | munin | rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -7.7�C (5:00 PM CST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST Thursday... |
| 23:04 | rhcl | National Weather Service: THE DEADLY COMBINATION OF BELOW ZERO TEMPERATURES AND BLUSTERY NORTHWEST WINDS WILL YIELD WIND CHILL VALUES OF 25 TO 35 BELOW ZERO OVER MUCH OF THE THURSDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY MORNING PERIOD. |
| 23:05 | brendan | all right you on |
| 23:05 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 23:05 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.2�C (3:03 PM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:06 | brendan | oh not bad! |
| 23:06 | chris | bet thats warmer than here today |
| 23:06 | brendan | chris - can you beat me |
| 23:06 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 23:06 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 07, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:06 | brendan | close |
| 23:06 | chris | cloudy here today, and its gonna rain soon |
| 23:06 | brendan | it's amazing outside right now |
| 23:07 | could get a better day | |
| 23:08 | chris | :) |
| 23:19 | chris_n2 | @wunder Dunn, NC |
| 23:19 | munin | chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.8�C (6:17 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:19 | * chris_n2 | throws more wood on the fire |
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