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| 00:16 | |Lupin| | k, time to go sleeping |
| 00:16 | bye all | |
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| 01:44 | brendan | Happy Halloween |
| 01:44 | everybody | |
| 01:44 | :) | |
| 01:50 | pianohacker | hallo brendan! |
| 01:50 | brendan | heya pianohacker |
| 01:50 | got some little trick or treaters stopping over -- it's so cute | |
| 01:50 | pianohacker | how's your halloween going? |
| 01:51 | we are getting an insane number; usually get maybe one or two groups, already fivee | |
| 01:54 | brendan | wow -- we've gotten 13 kids so far |
| 01:58 | pianohacker | and there's another, something weird is going on |
| 01:58 | anything else interesting in your neck of the woods? | |
| 02:59 | chris | afternoon |
| 03:03 | brendan | where up over thirty vistors so far |
| 03:03 | at my old house in CT -- our record high was 114 | |
| 03:03 | so I don't think we are getting that close this year | |
| 03:03 | but still a fun evening had by all | |
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| 03:04 | pianohacker | wow, that's insane, brendan |
| 03:04 | hi, chris | |
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| 06:39 | Ropuch | Morning, #koha |
| 07:00 | chris | hi Ropuch |
| 07:16 | Ropuch | Hello chris |
| 08:02 | brendan | hi ropuch chris |
| 08:02 | time for me to go to bed :) | |
| 08:02 | later all | |
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| 09:36 | susan | Hi |
| 09:37 | I am hoping someone can help me with an issue I have come across. I created a new authority, and when I did zebra rebuild -a it picks up a new 1 record has been added | |
| 09:37 | however when I go and "Search" for that authority, it says "oAuth Error: Database Unavailable (109( Bib-1 | |
| 09:38 | I am unsure of how to proceed from here...what database is it referring to? ANd why do the MARC records show up, once I create a new one..meaning Zebra is working fine..??? | |
| 09:38 | Any help would be greatly appreciated.. | |
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| 09:56 | susan | Anyone there? Or everyone is sleeping :) |
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| 10:15 | |Lupin| | Susan: hi |
| 10:15 | Susan: do you need some help ? | |
| 10:22 | Susan | Yes |
| 10:22 | hi lupin | |
| 10:22 | I am unsure if you are familiar with the Authorities section of Koha | |
| 10:22 | If you are. I will explain my problem. My biblios are index correctly and when searching for any, it gives me results | |
| 10:23 | However for Authorities, if lets say I createa new "Personal Name", then enter the details, save. Then rebuild zebra with -a, it says exported 1 record | |
| 10:23 | but when I search for this authority. I can't see anything!. Nothing is returned. Looking into the koha_error log file, it says oAuth, database unavailable (109) | |
| 10:24 | Been searching google for a while...but I don't know how to go about solving this | |
| 10:25 | |Lupin| | Susan: spontaneously I don't know either, I'm sorry: I indeed don't know the authorities section of KOha |
| 10:26 | Susan: still, let me have a look to the code and see whether I can find where the message comes from... | |
| 10:26 | Susan | Thanks for the help, hope someone wakes up and helps me out hehe :) |
| 10:28 | |Lupin| | Susan: that's unsure on Sunday morning... |
| 10:28 | Susan: can you please copy/paste here one complete message from koha_error ? | |
| 10:29 | Susan | Sure thing, |
| 10:31 | [Sun Nov 15 13:53:59 2009] [error] [client 172.21.255.32] [Sun Nov 15 13:53:59] authorities-home.pl: oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) Bib-1, referer: http://172.21.236.24:8080/cgi-[…]thorities-home.pl | |
| 10:31 | I had to write it, because I am using a virtual machine, and it doesnt seem to allow me to copy outside of it :) | |
| 10:31 | so I had to write that! | |
| 10:33 | |Lupin| | wow, congratulations |
| 10:33 | Susan | pardon? |
| 10:33 | |Lupin| | Susan: but that helps, because it says where the error comes from, so please let me examine this script and I may be able to help you then |
| 10:33 | Susan | Anyways, searching on this Bib-1 109 it says that Zebra is telling me that no records are available |
| 10:34 | sorry I don't have a script. I didn't change any code base..its the exact KOHA code | |
| 10:34 | |Lupin| | Susan: I think bib-1 refers to the record with number 1 in Koha |
| 10:34 | Susan: never mind. I was congratulating you for having written all that, now I'm looking at this part of Koha | |
| 10:35 | Susan | oh ok :) Sorry |
| 10:45 | looking at my zebradaemon file | |
| 10:45 | I get the following | |
| 10:45 | zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebra/authorities/shaodw.....etc [ Permissions Denied] | |
| 10:46 | Search authorities ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr 2=103 @attr = "1=_ALL Records" ' ' @attr = "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 | |
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| 11:01 | |Lupin| | Susan: sorry, I had problems with Internet |
| 11:01 | Susan: can you please see if you can find Zebra logs with information at the end of the log | |
| 11:02 | ? | |
| 11:02 | Susan: if you don't know where they are, tell me and I'll help you to find them | |
| 11:04 | Susan | zebra logs? |
| 11:04 | Let me see | |
| 11:04 | I will login again from the vmware, give me a minute please | |
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| 11:07 | susan2 | 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] profilePath=/etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc:/etc/koha/zebradb/etc:/etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios:/etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/en cwd=/var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] 0 keys, 0 sysnos, rank 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] term="covey" nn=0 type=rank,w=32,u=1003 count=0 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] term="covey" nn=0 type=rank,w=26,u=1003 count=0 11:48:37-01 |
| 11:07 | that does not loook nice........... | |
| 11:07 | |Lupin| | susan2: look for something like /var/log/koha-zebra-daemon, or something like that. If you don't find, ell me, We will see. |
| 11:07 | susan2 | Hi lupin, this is the end of the file koha-zebradaemon-output.log |
| 11:08 | 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [debug][log] zebra_register_open rw = 0 useshadow=0 p=0x9303b30,n=,rp=(none) 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] profilePath=/etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc:/etc/koha/zebradb/etc:/etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios:/etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/en cwd=/var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] 0 keys, 0 sysnos, rank 11:48:37-01/11 zebrasrv(1) [log] term="covey" nn=0 type=rank,w=32,u=1 | |
| 11:08 | I hope you can see it better than me. I am using the webclient for IRC. | |
| 11:09 | |Lupin| | susan2: yes I can see it... is that the only file you have ? don't you have one ending with .er ? |
| 11:09 | susan2 | I do, but that has nothing..I will display it |
| 11:10 | 20090903 14:40:41 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 18638) exited with 1 status 20090903 14:40:41 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 18639) exited with 1 status 20090903 14:40:41 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 18640) exited with 1 status 20090903 14:40:41 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: terminating too quickly, waiting 30 seconds 20090903 14:41:11 koha-zebra-ctl.koha: client (pid 18647) exited with 1 status 20090903 14:41:11 koha-zebra-ctl.ko | |
| 11:12 | do you know how I can open the file authoritysocket??? | |
| 11:12 | |Lupin| | susan2: ok... |
| 11:12 | susan2: it's the thing that KOha uses to talk to zebra. | |
| 11:12 | susan2: it's not a regular gile | |
| 11:14 | susan2 | I am looking into this issue online..and there is a previous irc log file that was discussing something similar |
| 11:14 | and they mentioned I look into that | |
| 11:16 | |Lupin| | susan2: there must be a problem in the way Koha tries to connect to zebra |
| 11:16 | susan2: or zebra is not there to respond... | |
| 11:16 | susan2 | I am unsure of how to check for that. I know that zebra scans biblios, and everytime I add a new biblio, it scans it and it shows up in Koha |
| 11:17 | There must be a difference between the authority db and the biblios db, because Koha+Zebra+Biblios = Good, while Koha+Authorities+Zebra = No good | |
| 11:17 | I am usnure...getting very frustrated..sighs.. | |
| 11:18 | give me a minute please..my computer is sloooow I have to restart | |
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| 11:21 | Susan-Dev | It seems previously I copied the wrong contents for you Lupid. |
| 11:21 | Kindly note the below: This is from the correct file, showing the error | |
| 11:21 | Lupin* | |
| 11:21 | 13:53:59-15/11 zebrasrv(107) [request] Search authorities ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr "1=Heading" susan 13:54:00-15/11 zebrasrv(107) [session] Connection closed by client 14:04:21-15/11 zebrasrv(108) [session] Session - OK 108 unix:/var/run/koha/zebradb/authoritysocket 369 14:04:21-15/11 zebrasrv(108) [log] User perm for perm.koha: rw 14:04:21-15/11 zebrasrv(108 | |
| 11:23 | |Lupin| | ahah... |
| 11:24 | Susan-Dev: can you please explain me exactly how you did your athority search ? | |
| 11:24 | Susan-Dev: I guess you first log in to the staff client, and then, what are you doing ? | |
| 11:25 | Susan-Dev | ok. I will first tell you how I added an Authority. I went to new authority --> Personal Name --> Tab 1 Titled Heading -- Personal Name - Entered under tag a [Personal Name] Susan M |
| 11:25 | Save. | |
| 11:26 | Searching Authority. -- Select "Personal Name" from combo box ,contains, "Susan" | |
| 11:26 | .....I get nothing | |
| 11:26 | :) | |
| 11:27 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: ok... |
| 11:27 | Susan-Dev: okay. And how exactly did you rebuild the zebra index ? which command did you run ? | |
| 11:28 | Susan-Dev | The following |
| 11:28 | sudo perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r | |
| 11:28 | Then I search for "susan" under "Personal Name" and nothing is returned... | |
| 11:29 | The problem is I faced a similar issue to this before with Biblios..but all I remember was permissions..NOT what was eeffected..I should soo record these problems somewhere | |
| 11:31 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: I have to admit I don't know how to help... |
| 11:31 | Susan-Dev: I'm sorry | |
| 11:32 | Susan-Dev: the only thing I can suggest is that you post to kohalists.katipo.co.nz |
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| 11:32 | Susan-Dev | Its ok, I will continue on searching..Hopeully someone wakes up soon :) |
| 11:33 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: I think the mailing list is worth trying... there are more ppl following the list than the IRC chan |
| 11:33 | Susan-Dev: first subscribe to the list so that your message gets send to it without being moderated | |
| 11:33 | Susan-Dev | ok will do, Thanks for your time. |
| 11:34 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: explain the problem and show the error you have copied (the last thing you showed me) |
| 11:34 | Susan-Dev: np, sorry it was not more useful to you | |
| 11:35 | Susan-Dev | its alright, Thanks anyways |
| 11:35 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: another advice is: if you are not really in a hurry about solving this issue, just post to the list and do something else until you get a response, else you are going to become crazy with your problem and then sad that you have lost one day for it... |
| 11:36 | have to go now... take care and see you later, bye | |
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| 12:48 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: could you make some progress ? |
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| 14:28 | |Lupin| | someone here who knows why dates appear twice in Apache logs, please ? |
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| 15:14 | nengard | morning all - i'm working on the manual and need to see someone's opac who has opacdisplay languages turned on for a screenshot - any pointers? |
| 15:15 | found one: http://salinas.kohalibrary.com/ | |
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| 15:30 | Koha-Susan | anyone awake? :) |
| 15:30 | |Lupin| | Koha-Susan: still here, but I guess you want somebody else :) |
| 15:31 | Koha-Susan | hehe hi Lupin |
| 15:31 | I actually sent to the mailing list koha-dev today | |
| 15:31 | but right now its night my time so i thought someone might be awake | |
| 15:32 | I really need some pointers so tomorrow at work I can solve it...the issue is, I am the only one and I have like 5 apps on top of my head, all want to finish at once | |
| 15:32 | hehe | |
| 15:32 | under a lot of stress. | |
| 15:32 | |Lupin| | yes... |
| 15:33 | Koha-Susan: I can't help, I'm sorry. | |
| 15:33 | Koha-Susan: where are you from ? | |
| 15:33 | Koha-Susan | Canadian, working in Abu Dhabi, uae |
| 15:33 | and don't worry about it..I will just stay on till someone else replies here, or I fall a sleep | |
| 15:33 | either or, | |
| 15:36 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: keep in mind it's sunday... |
| 15:36 | Koha-Susan: during working days the chan is full of talented persons | |
| 15:36 | Koha-Susan: if I were you I would post to Koha-users | |
| 15:36 | Susan-Dev: I mean, not the -dev list. | |
| 15:37 | Koha-Susan: there are more persons and the message is more in the topic of that list | |
| 15:37 | Koha-Susan | don't understand, ? |
| 15:37 | last time I got really great help here :) | |
| 15:38 | I am patient...I think, I can wait :) | |
| 15:43 | |Lupin| | Koha-Susan: I mean, your question is more appropriate on the Koha list than on the Koha-dev list, IMO |
| 15:43 | Koha-Susan | oh...the koha-list..? I will send it again then right now |
| 15:43 | |Lupin| | Susan-Dev: by the way: do you have other authorities in your database apat the one you added ? |
| 15:45 | Koha-Susan | sent it just now, thanks for telling me |
| 15:47 | |Lupin| | Koha-Susan: np |
| 15:47 | Susan-Dev: by the way: do you have other authorities in your database apat the one you added ? | |
| 15:48 | Koha-Susan | I added 4 |
| 15:48 | all the same way | |
| 15:48 | empty authority, except tab 1, tag a, i put a value | |
| 15:49 | then went back to tab 0 clicked save | |
| 15:49 | told me it requies other things, IT did AUTO fill, then I did save | |
| 15:49 | but as user entry I only did one thing for each of the 4 records | |
| 15:49 | The annoying thing is, Zebra picks it UP!! in the indexing I see it says exported | |
| 15:49 | but when I search..it does not return anything | |
| 15:50 | I am having the exact same issues as this person | |
| 15:50 | http://old.nabble.com/Authorit[…]h-td22595920.html | |
| 15:50 | but he has no solution! | |
| 15:51 | in the end, just says issue with connecting to database.... | |
| 15:54 | |Lupin| | Koha-Susan: yeah.. I don't know what to say/do, sorry |
| 15:54 | Koha-Susan | its ok Lupin, have a good day :) I am continuing to search |
| 15:54 | and wait till someone logs on | |
| 16:00 | Have a good night Lupin, I am too tired. I will try again tomorrow morning my time. | |
| 16:00 | take care and thanks for trying | |
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| 18:57 | |Lupin| | hi again |
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| 19:34 | richard | hi |
| 19:45 | |Lupin| | hey richard |
| 19:46 | richard | hi Lupin |
| 19:54 | chris | well, its been an interesting weekend for sirsi dynix that is for sure |
| 19:55 | |Lupin| | chris: I don't know what you are talking about ? |
| 19:56 | chris | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index[…]ms_on_Open_Source |
| 19:58 | richard | http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]le/CA6704622.html |
| 19:59 | chris | yeah there are links to all the commentary articles like that on the wiki |
| 19:59 | that one kinda misses the point imo, but there are some good ones, i like this one | |
| 19:59 | http://libniblets.justgiblets.[…]information-from/ | |
| 20:01 | |Lupin| | I'm curious how one could argue againss oepns source software |
| 20:02 | too lazy to read the report, though | |
| 20:02 | chris | |Lupin|: its just the usual stuff, could have been written by microsoft, its insecure, helps terrorists, has less features than proprietary etc |
| 20:03 | all with no evidence | |
| 20:05 | |Lupin| | chris: yeah, I'm pretty sure therewill always be people who want to read that and others who write it to please them and make money out of them |
| 20:06 | chris | definitely |
| 20:06 | |Lupin| | chris: btw yesterday pianohacker said Koha may one day use Template::Toolkit, had a look to it today and it looks pretty cool ! is there a schedule for that ? |
| 20:06 | chris | depends :) |
| 20:06 | its part of my proposal for 3.4 | |
| 20:07 | |Lupin| | chris: I'm definitely in favour of that |
| 20:07 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ent:rm3.4proposal |
| 20:07 | |Lupin| | chris: I have found a onverter from HTMP::Template to Template::Toolkit on goole code |
| 20:07 | chris | linked to from http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]elopment:roles3.4 |
| 20:07 | yep, it mostly works | |
| 20:07 | i have a template toolkit branch | |
| 20:07 | and have rewritten C4::Output to use TT | |
| 20:08 | so you will just have to vote for me (joke) :) | |
| 20:08 | |Lupin| | :-) |
| 20:08 | chris | im sure whoever else is interested in release manager for 3.4 will be in favour of it too |
| 20:12 | |Lupin| | chris: yeah sounds promising |
| 20:14 | I would add increasing the flexibility for circulaiton rules | |
| 20:14 | but maybe that's for later, if it is realistic at all | |
| 20:15 | chris | thats an rfc for a new feature for 3.4 |
| 20:15 | |Lupin| | :) |
| 20:15 | chris | so if it gets finished it will make it in |
| 20:17 | |Lupin| | chris: well, that's not soemething I feel powerful ienough to implement by myself, and since I'm not sure this could interest someone else... |
| 20:17 | chris | someone already has written an rfc for the circ rules |
| 20:18 | so that might cover most of it | |
| 20:18 | |Lupin| | ahah |
| 20:20 | k, leaving now | |
| 20:21 | chris: which day is it for you now sunday or monday ? | |
| 20:23 | chris | monday |
| 20:25 | |Lupin| | chris: ok |
| 20:26 | chris: is your timezone the most in the future one, or is there one that comes even after you ? | |
| 20:26 | chris | depends on the time of the year, at the mo we are the most future one |
| 20:26 | |Lupin| | chris: in other words is nz he first country to celebate new year ? |
| 20:27 | chris | fiji and nz |
| 20:27 | |Lupin| | ok |
| 20:31 | 'dnight all | |
| 20:31 | chris | night |
| 20:31 | |Lupin| | tomorrow is a big day for us cause we go live (partially) |
| 20:32 | chris | good luck |
| 20:32 | |Lupin| | thanks :) |
| 20:32 | pilishing the settings at the moment :) | |
| 20:32 | polishing | |
| 20:33 | Ropuch | We're going live in a month |
| 20:34 | chris | excellent |
| 20:35 | |Lupin| | bye |
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| 20:43 | Jo | Morning all |
| 20:43 | chris | hi Jo |
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| 21:08 | chris_n2 | hi chris, Jo |
| 21:12 | Jo | Hiya |
| 21:14 | chris | hiya chris_n2, hows the weekend goin? |
| 21:16 | chris_n2 | great, fantastic, etc. :-) |
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| 21:33 | chris | hey brendan, what was the total count? |
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| 21:42 | * chris_n2 | eats a very hot chocolate chip cookie |
| 21:43 | ian | hey Chris...I missed that expired reserves SQL you posted and Mibbit doesn't have a 'history' - can you whack it back on please? |
| 21:43 | chris | yep |
| 21:43 | SELECT * FROM reserves WHERE found = 'W' AND waitingdate < '2009-10-20'; (for ones waiting longer than ten days) | |
| 21:44 | (the date will be wrong now :) | |
| 21:46 | ian | found is at any branch or at destination? |
| 21:46 | chris | if its marked W then its at its destination (i think) W = waiting |
| 21:47 | ian | ahhh ...that would make sense :-) |
| 21:47 | Jo | Ian: http://www.tech-logic.com/solu[…]service/combo.asp |
| 21:47 | that is the link for the self checks we have settled on. | |
| 21:47 | * chris | is looking forward to getthing them going |
| 21:48 | Jo | we will have 3 self checks but 1 staff member 'fronting them' to accept cash, smile and interract etc. |
| 21:48 | ian | ta |
| 21:48 | Jo | means we wont have to invest in coin and bill handler for those who refuse to use eftpos (which will be part of the self check equipment) |
| 21:49 | chris | those things (coin and bill handlers) break constantly |
| 21:49 | Jo | will also handle barcodes and rfid tags so will transition nicely during the conversion process |
| 21:51 | and the final selling point for me, is the media passport thingee, which will unlock the dvd security cases: http://www.tech-logic.com/pdf/[…]ia%20Passport.pdf | |
| 21:51 | when they are issued. | |
| 21:52 | Ian: you can just buy the software if you want and not the PCs, scanners, printers etc which makes it heaps cheaper. But we are choosing the whole shooting match because our hardware is due for replacement anyway and they are actually competitively priced. | |
| 21:54 | And this is the personal payment sysytem: http://www.tech-logic.com/solu[…]lfservice/pps.asp | |
| 21:54 | brendan | final count one big bag of candy gone :) |
| 21:55 | ian | can we go somewhere private and talk $ |
| 21:55 | Jo | #kapiti |
| 21:56 | would love to know if anyone in the states has it all working with Kopha 3.0 yet | |
| 21:56 | brendan | we ended up with 37 visitors and lots of excellent little costumes |
| 21:58 | chris | cool |
| 22:04 | brendan | chris -- we got some pictures of sonja and I up on facebook |
| 22:05 | chris | excellent will go look |
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| 22:06 | pianohacker | hello, #koha |
| 22:07 | * chris | goes to do his performance review |
| 22:07 | Jo | Chris: I think you are terrific :) |
| 22:07 | brendan | heya pianohacker |
| 22:08 | howdy Jo | |
| 22:08 | Jo | hiya Brdnan |
| 22:08 | pianohacker | hi, brendan, Jo |
| 22:08 | Jo | bit mangled .. sorry mate |
| 22:08 | brendan | :) |
| 22:08 | pianohacker | good luck, chris |
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| 22:16 | ricardo | Hi everyone |
| 22:18 | pianohacker | hi, ricardo |
| 22:18 | ricardo | pianohacker: Hi Jesse |
| 22:24 | Jo | The Library 101 project is very cool: http://www.libraryman.com/library101/ |
| 22:26 | ian left #koha | |
| 22:27 | ricardo | Jo: Interesting. I didn't know about "Library 101". Thanks for the link! |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | Fastest lesson in using dist-packaged modules: upgrade and have to spend an hour getting everything working again |
| 22:35 | Jo | ricardo: its newish I think |
| 22:38 | ricardo | Jo: OK |
| 22:38 | pianohacker: What was the problem with dist-packaged modules? | |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | ricardo: I used cpan to get all of the necessary modules installed, so when perl upgraded, they didn't get upgraded along with it (there's really only a few you have to install from cpan) |
| 22:40 | ricardo | pianohacker: OK |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | ricardo: how are you, anyway? |
| 22:41 | ricardo | pianohacker: Still drowning in work (I don't like complaining, but life's like that now) |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | yeah, I can understand |
| 22:41 | that | |
| 22:42 | ricardo | pianohacker: Thanks for asking though :) And how are you? |
| 22:43 | pianohacker | very good, have splint off and back to typing and playing two-handed |
| 22:45 | ricardo | pianohacker: Oh yeah.. Your hand problem, right? So, that's sorted out? That's great! :) What's "splint off"? Is it a synonym for "recovered"? |
| 22:46 | pianohacker | ricardo: I had a splint on my hand to keep it immobilized while the bones healed, and I finally reached the end of the six-week healing time yesterday |
| 22:47 | ricardo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splint_(medicine) |
| 22:47 | Got it. OK. Cool :) | |
| 22:50 | chris | back |
| 22:50 | pianohacker | chris: still alive and well? |
| 22:50 | chris | yep, went great |
| 22:50 | Jo left #koha | |
| 22:51 | brendan | cheers chris |
| 22:54 | ricardo | chris / brendan : Hi :) |
| 22:54 | chris | hiya ricardo |
| 22:54 | brendan | hello ricardo |
| 22:54 | ricardo | chris: I received a further "batch" of translations from Marta Grachat. I'm testing it. Doing small fixes, etc... I should be able to submit it to you during next week |
| 22:55 | chris | fabulous |
| 22:55 | * brendan | reading more of the reactions around the "tubes" from Stephen Abrams doc. :) |
| 22:55 | chris | heh |
| 22:55 | you saw the code4lib wiki page eh? | |
| 22:55 | brendan | that's my base |
| 22:55 | chris | if you find any that arent listed on there, you can add them |
| 22:55 | brendan | err... homebase |
| 22:55 | chris | (dont need to be signed in) |
| 22:56 | if ricardo knows any more reactions from europe (i have france and sweden so far) :) | |
| 22:56 | ricardo | chris: Sorry, but I'm out of context. Do you have any URL for me? |
| 22:56 | chris | http://wiki.code4lib.org/index[…]ms_on_Open_Source |
| 22:57 | ricardo | That was fast! OK. Let me check that |
| 23:02 | Well, I have just skimmed... It's "mixed. Some of the claims sound reasonable to me. Other seem to be "blanket statements" that are not demonstrated (e.g.: "Proprietary software has more features. Period." | |
| 23:03 | chris | yeah, or that open source helps terrorists |
| 23:03 | or that proprietary is more secure ;) | |
| 23:04 | i think a major problem most people had is that none of his quotes are cited | |
| 23:04 | ricardo | chris: Oh, but Open Source Software might help terrorists... and proprietary software too. ANY software may help terrorists (and probably help good people too) |
| 23:04 | chris | :) |
| 23:05 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
| 23:05 | ricardo | Imagine: Bin Laden using OpenOffice.org Writer to create some strategy plan. There it is! OSS helping terrorist. Or maybe Bin Laden uses Microsoft Word, instead? Who knows?! ;-) |
| 23:06 | chris | hehe |
| 23:08 | ricardo | This one is quoted and is new to me (and funny): |
| 23:08 | "As open source companies assert, it is free like kittens, not free like beer." | |
| 23:09 | ( links to http://interwovenblog.com/2008[…]ee-puppy-is-free/ ) | |
| 23:09 | chris | yeah i make a point not to talk about cost |
| 23:09 | its free as in freedom | |
| 23:09 | ricardo | Right |
| 23:10 | chris | good comments on that |
| 23:11 | ricardo | chris: You mean comments to that post in the "Interwoven Blog", right? Yes, I'm skimming a few of them right now |
| 23:12 | chris | yep |
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