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| 00:20 | ricardo | Going to bed. Take care! |
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| 00:31 | pianohacker | chris: one of these days (after sysprefs editor, powerline, etc.; probably not till next summer), I'd like to spend some time resolving the memory leak problems in koha so we can have daemons |
| 00:31 | chris: if you have any mentoring or advice on the subject, it'd be greatly appreciated | |
| 00:31 | chris | cool,id be keen to help out with that |
| 00:32 | pianohacker | awesome |
| 00:44 | rich-away is now known as richard | |
| 00:49 | pianohacker | good night |
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| 01:55 | chris_n2 | hehe.... "The ubiquitous Asian woman who appears on every page and on the cover sheet, and always next to Abram’s name, making it seem like maybe that’s what he looks like." |
| 02:11 | chris++ # "...three guys with a pizza watching some debugging stack..." | |
| 02:12 | chris | heh |
| 02:13 | one of my fave comments to date is | |
| 02:13 | http://www.librarian.net/stax/[…]1/#comment-128700 | |
| 02:19 | chris_n2 | opps... sorry chris I thought that quote was your's (sure sounds like it ;-) |
| 02:21 | chris | :) |
| 02:23 | ive decided not to comment on his blog anymore, since he feels the need to post every comment with his rebuttal attached | |
| 02:23 | all it does is give him more platform to spin | |
| 02:24 | chris_n2 | yeah, he does seem to smell like a rose in spite of it all |
| 02:24 | chris | one thing i notice, is that with all these kinds of attack pieces, as soon as they called on it, they start trying to play the martyr card |
| 02:25 | yeah thats entirely his job, and why i wish librarians would stop getting him to keynote | |
| 02:25 | he is a spin dr, and i wouldnt believe him if he told me the sky is blue, without going to check for myself first | |
| 02:25 | chris_n2 | heh |
| 02:26 | * chris_n2 | steps outside for a minute... :-) |
| 02:28 | chris | so my advice to anyone, is don't play in his sandpit where he controls the game, rebut him on a blog where you have some control |
| 02:29 | chris_n2 | indeed, one has to be careful not to spit into the wind |
| 02:32 | and the prevailing wind seems to be coming from the direction of the lighthouse atm | |
| 02:32 | chris | heh |
| 02:32 | tep | |
| 02:32 | yep even | |
| 02:44 | just tweeted that suggestion | |
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| 02:45 | ian | Hey Chis:::hey - if something is done where the branch is insecure - where do the stats go? |
| 02:46 | chris | branch is insecure? |
| 02:46 | ian | set branch |
| 02:47 | actually that's a point | |
| 02:47 | you can't set it to insecure | |
| 02:47 | chris | yeah it shouldnt be set to that |
| 02:47 | ian | but when someone "fools" with firefox versions etc branch comes up initially as insecure |
| 02:48 | until you reset it | |
| 02:48 | chris | in that case they wotn be logged against any branch |
| 02:49 | ian | logged at all ya reckon? |
| 02:50 | will try a flat count vs group by branch | |
| 02:50 | chris | yeah good idea |
| 02:52 | ian | same fig... |
| 03:00 | looks like they aren't logged...possible? | |
| 03:01 | chris | could be, it might be that logging requires a branch |
| 03:01 | ian | any other place where i can check? |
| 03:02 | chris | select count(*) from statistics where branch is NULL; |
| 03:03 | ian | yipes... |
| 03:03 | lots | |
| 03:03 | chris | yeah most of them will be reserves from the opac |
| 03:03 | but i suspect in there are where the missing ones are, if they are anywhere | |
| 03:04 | ian | roger |
| 03:04 | but opac reserves are in there? | |
| 03:05 | and opac renewals? | |
| 03:05 | :-0 | |
| 03:05 | chris | yes |
| 03:05 | since they dont actually have a branch | |
| 03:11 | ian | for the stats - can i "assume" that the null stuff in the stats table (with type and date parameters set) ARE opac happenings |
| 03:11 | ? | |
| 03:11 | chris | they might be transactions with no branch set too |
| 03:12 | most of them will be opac happenings though | |
| 03:13 | ian | i mean narrowing it down to say renewals in OCT with branch null |
| 03:15 | chris | yep most of them will be opac |
| 03:15 | but some might be staff with no branch set doing renewals too | |
| 03:16 | ian | right - just looking now... |
| 03:22 | select count(*) from statistics where type = 'renew' and datetime >= '2009-10-01' and datetime < '2009-11-01' and branch is NULL; | |
| 03:22 | this gives me nuttin' | |
| 03:22 | 0 | |
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| 03:23 | ian | don't know where my opac renewals are... |
| 03:23 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:23 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:24 | brendan | evening Amit |
| 03:24 | Amit | heya richard |
| 03:24 | ian | this 'insecure' is making me just that... |
| 03:25 | chris | it may be now that they are actually logged against a branch, i know that was a bug that was logged, so it might be fixed now, and they are logged against the branch they were issued from |
| 03:26 | ian | that's what i kinda assumed |
| 03:31 | sorry, don't wanna bug - but the branchcode in reserves is where they want to pick-up from?????? | |
| 03:31 | is that rigt....? | |
| 03:31 | not getting results where branchcode is NULL; | |
| 03:39 | chris | yeah there should never be a null branchcode in reserves |
| 03:39 | in the reserves table that is | |
| 03:40 | no idea without checking the code what branch it puts in statistics | |
| 03:46 | ian | ok, I've calmed down now - thought i might have stumbled onto a treasure trove of previously unfound stats... |
| 03:46 | had a touch of gold fever... | |
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| 04:11 | Amit_G | @wunder Bangalore |
| 04:11 | munin | Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 24.0�C (8:30 PM IST on November 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. |
| 04:12 | Amit_G | @wunder New Delhi |
| 04:12 | munin | Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 21.0�C (9:00 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:12 | Amit_G | @wunder Dehradun |
| 04:12 | munin | Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 16.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. |
| 04:13 | Amit_G | @wunder Bhopal |
| 04:13 | munin | Amit_G: The current temperature in Bhopal / Bairagarh, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa. |
| 04:14 | Amit_G | @wunder Chandigarh |
| 04:14 | munin | Amit_G: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 04:15 | Susan-Dev | good morning |
| 04:15 | Someone a awake? Need help with Koha - Authorities. | |
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| 04:24 | Susan-Dev | I can explain the issue I guess for whoever is out there :). I create an authority - such as Corporate Name, or Personal name, and I only fill Tab 1, Tag @ [name] |
| 04:24 | I do rebuild zebra - a, i see it exported the new authority that I added | |
| 04:24 | chris | its those permission errors |
| 04:24 | [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK [Permission denied] 14:04:21-15/11 zebrasrv(108) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/shadow..LCK [Permission denie | |
| 04:25 | it cant access the database because it doesnt have permissions too | |
| 04:25 | Susan-Dev | I fixed those permissions Chris |
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| 04:25 | Susan-Dev | Now they don't show up, but still nothing is returned to me by searching |
| 04:25 | chris | what error are you getting now? |
| 04:25 | still an ERROR 109 ? | |
| 04:25 | Susan-Dev | and lookinga t the list, some say change MainDHeading to "Haeding" but I already have that fixed in my version of Koha |
| 04:26 | Yes, but kindly give me a minute or 2 to load it up aagain | |
| 04:26 | and post the error message | |
| 04:26 | chris | k |
| 04:26 | you can use http://paste.workbuffer.org | |
| 04:28 | Susan-Dev | ok let me try |
| 04:30 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Zebra rebuilding" (84 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/31 |
| 04:30 | Susan-Dev | Please Help: Authority Search - Not returning Result. Zebra Index Picks up 4 Authority Records |
| 04:30 | Kindly note, this is my rebuild zebra with -a -b -r options | |
| 04:31 | Now I will add a new authority to see if I get any errors. I am running this on my test machine "fresh", since I think I might have ruined my dev | |
| 04:35 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marc record of new authority" (19 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/32 |
| 04:36 | * chris | has to head home very shortly |
| 04:36 | chris | but i will be back after i have fed my sons and put them to bed :) |
| 04:36 | Susan-Dev | ok Chris, but pleaseee come back |
| 04:36 | :) | |
| 04:36 | I will stay online till I get this issue fixed | |
| 04:38 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Koha zebraqueue output log file after searching for "Chris"" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/33 |
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| 04:54 | Susan-Dev | While exporting the authorities, there is an issue that shows in the log file of zebra_rebuild |
| 04:55 | it says "No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml | |
| 04:55 | but this file exists.... | |
| 04:55 | and I just checked on its permissions, its full 777 owned by Koha user | |
| 05:26 | when is chris coming back............? :) | |
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| 06:19 | frederic1 is now known as fredericd | |
| 06:19 | fredericd | hi |
| 06:25 | Amit_G | hi fredericd |
| 06:28 | fredericd | Amit_G: hi |
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| 06:48 | Susan-Dev2 | Hi did Chris come back? |
| 06:48 | My irc chat froze and I don't know what hapepnd | |
| 06:48 | ?? | |
| 06:48 | Anyone :) | |
| 06:50 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:55 | chris | ok, kids in bed |
| 06:55 | Susan-Dev2 | thank god |
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| 06:55 | Susan-Dev2 | :) |
| 06:55 | So how do I start to get you to help me with this? | |
| 06:56 | chris | ok, its not the zebraqueue log we want |
| 06:56 | Susan-Dev2 | Your the brain |
| 06:56 | what log do we want? | |
| 06:57 | chris | its koha-zebradaemon one |
| 06:57 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me see |
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| 06:58 | |Lupin| | good day all |
| 06:58 | Susan-Dev2 | output or error file Chris?? |
| 06:58 | My output one is empty.... | |
| 06:58 | completly empty | |
| 06:58 | Because I erased it an hour ago, but I still did alot of work after that {adding new authority/searching} | |
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| 06:59 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:00 | chris | well that should get something in it everytime you search |
| 07:00 | are you using debian? | |
| 07:00 | if so | |
| 07:00 | Susan-Dev2 | OpenSUSe |
| 07:00 | sorry Ubuntu | |
| 07:01 | fredericd | |Lupin|: hello! |
| 07:01 | chris | ok, stop your zebraserver |
| 07:01 | Susan-Dev2 | this is stupid..but how? |
| 07:01 | :) | |
| 07:02 | should I just do kill all processes that grep with zebrasrv?? | |
| 07:03 | Amit_G | hi lupin, kf |
| 07:03 | chris | no dont do that, the daemon will just restart it |
| 07:03 | Susan-Dev2 | so how should I shut it? |
| 07:03 | chris | there should be a script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 07:04 | kf | hi Amit |
| 07:04 | Susan-Dev2 | I know you must be busy chris, but I really hope you could help. |
| 07:04 | chris | that you would have put there when you installed koha |
| 07:04 | find what that is called | |
| 07:04 | |Lupin| | guten tag kf :) |
| 07:04 | chris | then sudo /etc/init.d/that_script stop |
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| 07:04 | Ropuch | Guten Tag, kf [;\ |
| 07:05 | Susan-Dev2 | There is only three with zebra |
| 07:05 | koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 07:05 | |Lupin| | anyone know if there is a way to control the way apache errors are logged, please ? |
| 07:05 | Susan-Dev2 | koha-zebra-deamon --< i guess I did two daemons hehe with mispelled names |
| 07:05 | and koha-zebraqueue-daemon | |
| 07:05 | which one should I go stop?? | |
| 07:05 | |Lupin| | ErorLog specifies only the file, I'm looking for something to control the formatting of errors. LogFormat is not taken into account when logging erors... |
| 07:06 | chris | the first one, and you shouldnt be using the second one, you should have a cronjob that calls rebuild_zebra.pl instead of the zebraqueue one |
| 07:06 | kf | Guten Tag, Ropuch. how is your German course going? |
| 07:06 | |Lupin| | (the problem I'd like to address is that the date is logged twice in error logs and I don't know why...) |
| 07:06 | chris | i think frederic just said that in an email too :) |
| 07:07 | Ropuch | kf: I'm still at german-is-quite-easy point [; |
| 07:07 | kf | Ropuch: hope you can stay there :) |
| 07:07 | Susan-Dev2 | so I should look at the crontab file?? |
| 07:07 | My crontab is running as ROOT | |
| 07:07 | its a root crontab | |
| 07:08 | Ropuch | kf: me too :) |
| 07:08 | chris | not yet, just stop that koha-zebra-daemon one |
| 07:08 | fredericd | chris: INSTALL.debian-lenny, line 200: it's suggested to use zebraqueue_daemon... |
| 07:08 | chris | yeah, that needs to be fixed |
| 07:08 | but not now, first lets get susan able to search authorities | |
| 07:09 | so stop, and verify zebrasrv isnt running | |
| 07:09 | Susan-Dev2 | i forgot how to edit my root cron |
| 07:09 | I tried crontabl -e -u root | |
| 07:09 | but that does not work.. | |
| 07:09 | chris | leave the cron alone for now |
| 07:09 | first we need to stop zebra | |
| 07:10 | Susan-Dev2 | so to stop zebra I have to go koha-zebra-daemon stop? |
| 07:10 | correct?? | |
| 07:10 | chris | sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon stop |
| 07:10 | Susan-Dev2 | ok I stopped it |
| 07:10 | and to check that it is stopped, do I do ps -ef | grep zebra | |
| 07:10 | ?? | |
| 07:10 | kf | http://www.whitehouse.gov/ now Drupal - nice |
| 07:10 | chris | yes |
| 07:11 | Susan-Dev2 | Looking at my processes. I see daemon --name=koha-zebraueue4-ctl-koha running?? |
| 07:11 | and perl -I /usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueeu_daemon.pl also running | |
| 07:11 | but thats it.. | |
| 07:11 | chris | yeah ignore those for now |
| 07:11 | Susan-Dev2 | ok |
| 07:11 | check | |
| 07:12 | chris | ok, look at that file, and on line to it says USER=something |
| 07:12 | Susan-Dev2 | what file sorry?? |
| 07:12 | chris | what is something? (probably koha, but we need to check) |
| 07:12 | /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 07:12 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me check for you |
| 07:12 | chris | line two that should be |
| 07:13 | Susan-Dev2 | koha |
| 07:13 | USER=koha | |
| 07:13 | Group=koha | |
| 07:13 | chris | cool |
| 07:13 | Susan-Dev2 | by the way, my biblios work A+++, only authorities don't pick up |
| 07:13 | chris | ok, now we are going to start zebrasrv by hand |
| 07:13 | so first | |
| 07:13 | Susan-Dev2 | ok |
| 07:13 | chris | sudo su - koha |
| 07:13 | (changes us to the koha user) | |
| 07:14 | then | |
| 07:14 | zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 07:14 | Susan-Dev2 | wait wait |
| 07:14 | I tried sudo su - koha | |
| 07:14 | but its weird..it doesnt seem to switch me to user koha | |
| 07:14 | I only get $ | |
| 07:14 | chris | type whoami |
| 07:15 | Susan-Dev2 | it says I am koha |
| 07:15 | hehe | |
| 07:15 | chris | then you are :) |
| 07:15 | Susan-Dev2 | Yes I am |
| 07:15 | ok so now I go | |
| 07:15 | zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-confxml | |
| 07:15 | chris | yep |
| 07:15 | Susan-Dev2 | it says |
| 07:15 | starting server PID 20923 | |
| 07:15 | everything looks good from start | |
| 07:16 | chris | cool, now try an authorities search |
| 07:16 | Susan-Dev2 | do I do rebuild zebra first??? |
| 07:16 | chris | and you should see stuff happen in zebra |
| 07:16 | no, not yet | |
| 07:16 | lets just try a search and see what the error is first | |
| 07:16 | Susan-Dev2 | ok then..so whatever it exported before, I should test it on that..I will do that now |
| 07:17 | ok I am in now..I did a search | |
| 07:17 | do you want me to copy/paste for you?? | |
| 07:17 | chris | yes please |
| 07:17 | Susan-Dev2 | ok one minute |
| 07:19 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Search authorities ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr" (35 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/34 |
| 07:19 | Susan-Dev2 | this is the contents of what showed up |
| 07:19 | chris | yep, ERROR 109 still |
| 07:19 | thats the salient bit | |
| 07:19 | Susan-Dev2 | :( :( |
| 07:20 | chris | so all the advice about Heading etc wont make any difference |
| 07:20 | Susan-Dev2 | No I did that |
| 07:20 | It is not "Main Heading", its "heading" | |
| 07:20 | in my current version of Koha which is 3.00.00 | |
| 07:20 | I think? | |
| 07:21 | any other advice? Like connecting to the authoritysocket to see if it connects even?? | |
| 07:21 | or something like that...sighs | |
| 07:21 | I don't even know how to go about anything now..I did my research..alot | |
| 07:22 | chris | that means database unavailable |
| 07:22 | so its not that its searching the wrong thing, but that there is no authorities database | |
| 07:22 | Susan-Dev2 | Right...but why it is not unavailable? Is it username/password issue, is it permissions issue? I have no idea |
| 07:22 | chris | no, it doesnt exist |
| 07:23 | Susan-Dev2 | why is that?? I installed Koha correctly with no issues |
| 07:23 | HOw do I create it?? | |
| 07:23 | chris | well you had permissions issues, so it probably wasnt initialised correctly |
| 07:23 | Susan-Dev2 | by the way, i don't know if this si helpful or not..but during the authority section of the rebuild_zebra...I got a message saying no record type found: dom./etc/stuf stuf stuf |
| 07:23 | chris | 2 seconds ill find out |
| 07:24 | yes, that will probably have meant it didnt build the indexes hence the ERROR 109 | |
| 07:24 | Susan-Dev2 | but that .xml file exists |
| 07:24 | chris | can you run |
| 07:24 | Susan-Dev2 | I went to it and I found it |
| 07:24 | and I checked its permissions its 777 and owned by khoa | |
| 07:24 | koha | |
| 07:25 | chris | rebuild_zebra.pl -a -v |
| 07:25 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me try |
| 07:25 | chris | and paste the whole of the output |
| 07:26 | Susan-Dev2 | It does not like -v |
| 07:26 | it says not found in list of commands or something like that | |
| 07:28 | I can do it with only -a or -b..or other things..but -v is not there | |
| 07:28 | chris | ah, it is in newer versions, that is annoying |
| 07:28 | ok try it with just -b | |
| 07:29 | Susan-Dev2 | -b is for biblios? ok |
| 07:29 | chris | sorry -a |
| 07:29 | Susan-Dev2 | ok chris |
| 07:29 | I will copy/paste it now | |
| 07:30 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml" (45 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/35 |
| 07:30 | Susan-Dev2 | done |
| 07:30 | Hope this can give you a clue | |
| 07:31 | chris | 11:27:12-02/11 zebraidx(10017) [log] Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 |
| 07:32 | yes, it didnt insert any records at all | |
| 07:32 | Susan-Dev2 | any ideas why?? |
| 07:32 | chris | that is why you are getting 109, because there are no records |
| 07:32 | no | |
| 07:32 | not off the top of my head | |
| 07:32 | Susan-Dev2 | oh.. |
| 07:33 | chris | but if you paste that whole bit, plus the zebra log |
| 07:33 | then hopefully one of the people who knows about authorities, like HDL will be able to help | |
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| 07:33 | chris | (paste into an email) |
| 07:33 | Susan-Dev2 | ok |
| 07:37 | I did chris.. | |
| 07:37 | I don't know what else to do..this issue has been going on for 3 days now | |
| 07:37 | non stop working on it..to no avail | |
| 07:40 | chris | yep, it always helps to give more information than less ... i think now there should be enough for some of the people who use authorities to spot the problem |
| 07:41 | Susan-Dev2 | ok chris. But I have another question. We need authorities right? When when create a new marc record, we have to create authors before hand?? |
| 07:41 | It does not allow us to enter details..we have to choose from pop up window | |
| 07:41 | so they are important?? | |
| 07:42 | fredericd | Susan-Dev2: You can ignore completely authorities if you don't need them. |
| 07:42 | chris | librarians think so :) |
| 07:42 | but yeah you can turn that off in the marc frameworks, so you can just enter authors straight away | |
| 07:43 | its not a koha requirement to use authorities but your librarians might want them | |
| 07:45 | fredericd | Susan-Dev2: You can try to switch your zebra authorities DB from DOM to GRS1 |
| 07:46 | In you koha-conf.xml file, locate a line containing zebra-authorities-dom.cfg | |
| 07:46 | Susan-Dev2 | let me see |
| 07:46 | hi fredericd first | |
| 07:46 | and now let me see | |
| 07:46 | :) | |
| 07:46 | fredericd | Suppress -dom to get zebra-authorities.cfg |
| 07:46 | then rebuild_zebra and see what happens | |
| 07:47 | Susan-Dev2 | um where do I go to edit this dom feature?? |
| 07:47 | in koha-conf.xml?? | |
| 07:47 | fredericd | yes |
| 07:48 | Susan-Dev2 | ok I see zebra-authorities-dom.cfg |
| 07:48 | what do I change it to?? | |
| 07:49 | fredericd | remove '-dom' (in the line <config>...) |
| 07:50 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me do that |
| 07:50 | done now? Should I just do rebuild_zebra -a? | |
| 07:50 | without restarting the zebra server? | |
| 07:51 | fredericd | not required, just rebuilt indexes |
| 07:51 | Susan-Dev2 | it gave me a dfiferent error now |
| 07:51 | it says Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) | |
| 07:51 | Bad Match criteria | |
| 07:51 | and also 0 records are entered into DB | |
| 07:52 | I will copy/paste it | |
| 07:52 | give mea minute please | |
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| 07:53 | fredericd | There is really something strange in your installation... |
| 07:53 | pastebot | "Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-Number)" (49 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/36 |
| 07:54 | fredericd | Local-Number is defined in marc21/authorities/record.abs |
| 07:54 | Susan-Dev2 | I followed the documents online and I never had any issues during installation..maybe only permissions when I tried to do biblio serach before |
| 07:54 | fredericd | which document and what Koha version? |
| 07:54 | Are you in MARC21? | |
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| 07:54 | Susan-Dev2 | I dont know |
| 07:54 | how can I tell?? | |
| 07:55 | fredericd | In Koha Administration, system preference 'marcflavour' |
| 07:56 | Susan-Dev2 | MARC21 |
| 07:56 | Yes | |
| 07:57 | do you want to see what my record.abs | |
| 07:57 | has?? | |
| 07:58 | fredericd | In record.abs, you should have a line: |
| 07:58 | melm 001 Local-Number | |
| 07:58 | Susan-Dev2 | Yes |
| 07:58 | Yes I have that | |
| 07:58 | sighs...i worry that I may never able able to solve this.....:( | |
| 07:58 | fredericd | In order for zebra to identify authoriy records, you need to have 001 tag with koha authority uniq ID |
| 07:58 | Susan-Dev2 | * think positive thoughts* |
| 07:59 | it says | |
| 07:59 | all any | |
| 07:59 | melm 001 Local-Number | |
| 07:59 | melm 942$a authtype | |
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| 08:00 | fredericd | it's ok |
| 08:00 | Susan-Dev2 | and when I create an authority..I go to tab 1..and fill in ONLY tag @a with information |
| 08:00 | only tag a) | |
| 08:00 | then save..then search | |
| 08:00 | fredericd | Go in Administration > Authority types |
| 08:00 | Susan-Dev2 | but I get nothing... |
| 08:00 | is there any other data that I have to fill in?? OK I will go there now | |
| 08:01 | ok I am in | |
| 08:01 | fredericd | click on MARC structure |
| 08:01 | link | |
| 08:01 | Susan-Dev2 | of which one?? there are many?? |
| 08:01 | the default? personal name [which I use} | |
| 08:02 | or which ones? | |
| 08:02 | fredericd | so personal name |
| 08:02 | Susan-Dev2 | ok |
| 08:02 | in | |
| 08:02 | fredericd | On 001 tag, click subfields |
| 08:03 | Susan-Dev2 | ok |
| 08:03 | i only se one | |
| 08:03 | @ | |
| 08:03 | fredericd | You MUST see auth_header.authid in Constraints |
| 08:03 | Susan-Dev2 | auth_header.authid |
| 08:03 | is there | |
| 08:04 | Tab :0, |Koha field: auth_header.authid, Not repeatable, Not Mandatory | |
| 08:05 | fredericd | Do you have access to your MySQL DB? |
| 08:05 | Susan-Dev2 | yes I do |
| 08:05 | before anything, do I leave zebra-authorities.cfg in the config..or do i put back -dom?? | |
| 08:06 | fredericd | leave it as it is, you get a better error message. but at the end, you will have to switch back in dom mode |
| 08:07 | In MySQL: | |
| 08:07 | SELECT * FROM auth_header\G | |
| 08:07 | you will see all your authorities | |
| 08:08 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me try |
| 08:08 | ok I see some data | |
| 08:08 | should I copy/paste for you?? | |
| 08:09 | fredericd | You have a authid for each record. |
| 08:09 | Susan-Dev2 | authid the column in mysql? Yes 1, 2, 3 |
| 08:09 | with authtypecode PERSO_NAME | |
| 08:09 | fredericd | You must have it also in marcxml field, in <controlfield tag="001"> |
| 08:09 | 001 tag MUST contain authid | |
| 08:10 | Susan-Dev2 | my marcxml colum in mysqldatabase is just TEXT |
| 08:10 | There is no xml tags in here | |
| 08:10 | so I don't know how to find it... | |
| 08:10 | but looking at the patterns, I see 1, 2, 3 | |
| 08:10 | but of course not in XML tags | |
| 08:10 | fredericd | You have a field named 'marcxml', isn't it? |
| 08:10 | Susan-Dev2 | yes |
| 08:11 | but not xml text inside | |
| 08:11 | just normal text | |
| 08:11 | doyou know what I mean? | |
| 08:11 | Nothing <tag></tag>' | |
| 08:11 | just normal text | |
| 08:11 | I will copy paste it for you | |
| 08:11 | fredericd | What MySQL client do you use? |
| 08:11 | Susan-Dev2 | ...umm I am using webmin to view my database entries |
| 08:11 | so maye it does not like to show me xml tags | |
| 08:12 | fredericd | that's it |
| 08:12 | Susan-Dev2 | whats it? |
| 08:12 | fredericd | xml tags are removed by your MySQL client... |
| 08:12 | Susan-Dev2 | ...ummm?? but Biblios dont have marcxml also?? |
| 08:12 | because biblios work.. | |
| 08:13 | but I have mysql installed in ubuntu | |
| 08:13 | this webmin is just "Viewing" mode | |
| 08:13 | not changing anything | |
| 08:13 | fredericd | !!! |
| 08:13 | Susan-Dev2 | am i wrong? *sighs.. |
| 08:14 | fredericd | If you can see xml tags for biblio record, you should see them also for authoriy records |
| 08:15 | Susan-Dev2 | where do I go to see the xml tags for biblios? What table |
| 08:15 | fredericd | biblioitems |
| 08:15 | Susan-Dev2 | crap you are so right |
| 08:15 | I see XML in biblioITEMS | |
| 08:15 | but no xml in auth_types | |
| 08:15 | so how do I fix this now?? | |
| 08:16 | sorry auth_header | |
| 08:17 | fredericd | very strange |
| 08:17 | you authority are not properly recorded | |
| 08:18 | during installation, have you runned sax_parser_print.pl script? | |
| 08:19 | Susan-Dev2 | I don't remember |
| 08:19 | so what should I do now? | |
| 08:20 | fredericd | You may have something wrong in XML SAX parser used by Koha |
| 08:20 | find sax_parser_print.pl script and run it. Tell me what you get | |
| 08:20 | Susan-Dev2 | ok let me try |
| 08:20 | thanks for your patience fredericd | |
| 08:21 | I there is one under /usr/share/koha/bin/sax_parser_print.pl | |
| 08:22 | do i run it like perl -I /usr/share/koha/bin/sax_parser_print.p. | |
| 08:22 | fredericd | -I is not required |
| 08:23 | Susan-Dev2 | ok I get |
| 08:23 | XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x873c788) | |
| 08:24 | fredericd | it's correct :-( |
| 08:24 | Susan-Dev2 | aye... |
| 08:24 | I am dying here :( | |
| 08:25 | fredericd | Yes, that's your only way out... |
| 08:25 | Susan-Dev2 | hehe |
| 08:25 | Do you know when hdl might come online??? | |
| 08:26 | I doand where does he live, I think we have a time diference | |
| 08:26 | fredericd | Could you try to see your first authority in your browser by appending that to your koha server: |
| 08:26 | /cgi-bin/koha/authorities/detail.pl?authid=1 | |
| 08:27 | Susan-Dev2 | oh..I can do that? Let me try |
| 08:27 | I get data | |
| 08:28 | but I also used to get it before..because it shows it to me after I create a new authority | |
| 08:28 | fredericd | What you you have in 001? |
| 08:28 | Susan-Dev2 | tag @ 1 |
| 08:29 | fredericd | which is correct |
| 08:29 | Susan-Dev2 | and 001 - CONTROL NUMBER |
| 08:29 | there is only the issue if it NOT being stored in the zebradb | |
| 08:29 | why? I don't know | |
| 08:29 | why why!! sighs | |
| 08:29 | Koha creates the authority fine. But the indexing is from zebra, thats how koha does its search | |
| 08:30 | and Chris saysid that my database for Authority is not making indexes | |
| 08:30 | chris | its not creating it fine, if it is not xml |
| 08:30 | Susan-Dev2 | but I am killing myself here, why does biblio work and not authority........... |
| 08:30 | chris | thats why it cant index it |
| 08:30 | because biblio has xml | |
| 08:30 | Susan-Dev2 | and who is responsible for making it xml?? |
| 08:30 | any speific file? So I can look at the code | |
| 08:30 | fredericd | chris: But Susan-Dev2 can see authority in detail.pl... |
| 08:31 | chris | yes, but that might be displaying it from the sql |
| 08:31 | Susan-Dev2 | yes..most likley |
| 08:31 | chris | not the marcxml |
| 08:32 | we need someone who uses authorities to tell us what is in their table | |
| 08:32 | fredericd | or from marc field? |
| 08:32 | usually, there is something in marcxml field | |
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| 08:32 | chris | Susan-Dev2: can you run rebuild_zebra.pl -a -k |
| 08:33 | Susan-Dev2 | let me try that |
| 08:33 | chris | that will not delete the files after |
| 08:33 | then you can cut and paste what the file looks like | |
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| 08:34 | Susan-Dev2 | please fred don't leave...stay with the conversation with chris |
| 08:34 | two heads better than 1 | |
| 08:34 | do you want me to look at the weird file at /tmp/UzzPEMDpwy?? | |
| 08:34 | chris | yes |
| 08:35 | that is actually a directory, you need to find the in there | |
| 08:35 | Susan-Dev2 | .... |
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| 08:36 | Koha-Susan | sorry |
| 08:36 | I am back | |
| 08:36 | give mea minute please and let me see how to go into this directory | |
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| 08:37 | Koha-Susan | I am in |
| 08:37 | should I go into exported_records | |
| 08:37 | chris | yes |
| 08:38 | Koha-Susan | I see the same data that was in the marcxml |
| 08:38 | without the XML | |
| 08:38 | so normal text data | |
| 08:38 | with 3 records | |
| 08:38 | should I paste it?? | |
| 08:38 | fredericd | Enter yaz-marcdump <filename> |
| 08:39 | chris | so if its normal textdata, that will be why |
| 08:39 | Koha-Susan | yaz-marcdump is not installed |
| 08:39 | chris | fredericd: that should definitely be marc eh? |
| 08:39 | Koha-Susan | so who is responsible for converting to xml |
| 08:40 | and why is it different than our friend biblios? Shouldnt koha use the same procedures to do everything related to MARC? | |
| 08:40 | yaz-marcdump is not installed | |
| 08:40 | should I install it?? | |
| 08:40 | chris | yes it should, and it works for others, so we are trying to find what is different in your setup |
| 08:40 | Koha-Susan | oh i see... |
| 08:41 | I hope you find the issue.. | |
| 08:41 | hdl_laptop | hi all |
| 08:41 | Koha-Susan | HDL..I hope this is the HDL you guys are talking about |
| 08:42 | any ideas gentlmen? | |
| 08:42 | as to why my authorities are not stored as XML | |
| 08:42 | while biblios are?? | |
| 08:42 | during zebra_rebuild -a | |
| 08:43 | hdl_laptop | Koha-Susan : authorities are not stored as XML where ? |
| 08:44 | Koha-Susan | Hi hdl first. |
| 08:44 | fredericd | chris: rebuild_zebra exports authority records in ISO2709 not in XML |
| 08:44 | Koha-Susan | yes..I see alot of ISO2709 files under the Biblios |
| 08:44 | but not under Authorities.. | |
| 08:44 | fredericd | and it is supposed to fix 001 tag if not present |
| 08:44 | Koha-Susan | HDL, let me introduce the issue real quick. I create authority, I save authority, I rebuild -a , I get no results |
| 08:45 | fredericd | Koha-Susan: Install yaz-marcdump |
| 08:45 | Koha-Susan | with an error telling me 109 |
| 08:45 | hdl_laptop | database unavailable |
| 08:45 | chris | fredericd: she said it is a plain text file, not a marc one |
| 08:45 | Koha-Susan | search authorities error 109 1 1+0 RPN et et et |
| 08:45 | hdl_laptop | have you tried to init the zebra authorities base. |
| 08:45 | Koha-Susan | in my MYSQL , under AUTH_HEADER, under the column MARCXML |
| 08:45 | I only see normal text | |
| 08:45 | chris | can you paste that file please Koha-Susan |
| 08:45 | hdl_laptop | and reindex ? |
| 08:45 | Koha-Susan | while looking under biblioItems i see FULL XML |
| 08:45 | what file??? | |
| 08:46 | ...init?? | |
| 08:46 | ummmmm | |
| 08:46 | I think so?? but I am not sure | |
| 08:46 | chris | no the one rebuild created |
| 08:46 | Koha-Susan | ok let me copy/paste contents of this file |
| 08:46 | ok? | |
| 08:47 | are you guys going to be available later on or not?? crap I have a meeting in 15 minutes and I don't want to go | |
| 08:47 | I was lucky enough to get all three of you at once!! | |
| 08:47 | hdl_laptop | zebraidx -d authorities -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg init |
| 08:47 | to initialize your database. | |
| 08:48 | pastebot | "Koha-Susan" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Content of the file generated from zebra -a -k" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/37 |
| 08:48 | chris | hdl_laptop:shoud the stuff in marcxml in the database be xml or text? |
| 08:48 | hdl_laptop | xml |
| 08:49 | zebraidx has to be used by the user which has write access to zebra files | |
| 08:49 | chris | ahh that is marc Koha-Susan |
| 08:49 | Koha-Susan | .umm so koha?? |
| 08:49 | or root?? | |
| 08:49 | the user owning those files is koha | |
| 08:49 | with 777 permissions | |
| 08:49 | chris | koha |
| 08:50 | Koha-Susan | now when I do rebuild, |
| 08:50 | can I rebuild as root?? | |
| 08:50 | fredericd | hdl_laptop: read back. You will see that Koha-Susan issue is that zebra indexer can't find authority record number |
| 08:50 | hdl_laptop | fredericd: yes. |
| 08:51 | Koha-Susan | do I do rebuild now hdl? |
| 08:51 | hdl_laptop | But it is owed to access to database. |
| 08:51 | Koha-Susan: yes. rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset | |
| 08:51 | chris | not as root |
| 08:51 | fredericd | I think we need to see how your exported authority record look like before beeing send to zebra indexer |
| 08:51 | chris | as koha |
| 08:52 | Koha-Susan | just reinding zebra |
| 08:52 | it still says Record didn't contan match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) | |
| 08:52 | bad match criteria | |
| 08:52 | records: 0 | |
| 08:52 | chris | fredericd: you can take that file she pasted and marcdump it |
| 08:53 | fredericd | Koha-Susan: could paste your rebuild_zebra.pl file? |
| 08:53 | Koha-Susan | this is of course when I changed the koha-config.xml for authorities to point to zebra-authorities.cfg, instead of zebra-authorities-dom.cfg...before it was telling me that zebra-authorities-dom.cfg is not a record thats found |
| 08:53 | sure thing | |
| 08:53 | give me minute please | |
| 08:55 | pastebot | "Koha-Susan" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "rebuild zebra file contents" (916 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/38 |
| 08:55 | Koha-Susan | pasted |
| 08:55 | kf | just reading back - we are using authorities, but not biblios. just tell me when you need me to look in our database. |
| 08:55 | Koha-Susan | pardon?? |
| 08:56 | I am trying to search "Authorities" that I added/saved | |
| 08:56 | Biblios is A++++ working fine | |
| 08:56 | but Authorities is NOT | |
| 08:56 | I save it, then search for it...it tells me database not found..or Error 109 | |
| 08:56 | chris | <!-- Record 1 offset 0 (0x0) --> |
| 08:56 | 00214nz a2200109n 4500 | |
| 08:56 | (Directory offset 108: Bad value for data length and/or length starting) | |
| 08:56 | 001 O | |
| 08:56 | Koha-Susan | which also means dadtabase not found |
| 08:56 | chris | all of them have 0 for 001 |
| 08:56 | that is the problem | |
| 08:57 | Koha-Susan | confused./.... |
| 08:57 | chris | <!-- Record 2 offset 413 (0x19d) --> |
| 08:57 | 21:55 ~ $ yaz-marcdump test.mrc | |
| 08:57 | 00214nz a2200109n 4500 | |
| 08:57 | (Directory offset 108: Bad value for data length and/or length starting) | |
| 08:57 | 001 O | |
| 08:58 | so all of them are coming through with 0 in the 001 field | |
| 08:58 | Koha-Susan | so what do I do?? |
| 08:58 | anything? | |
| 08:59 | pastebot | "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marcxml from yaz-marcdump" (26 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/39 |
| 09:00 | Koha-Susan | I don't know what you did exactly chris |
| 09:00 | but I also don't understand this result | |
| 09:00 | or a solution to it | |
| 09:00 | :( | |
| 09:00 | chris | its for hdl and fredericd to look at |
| 09:01 | Koha-Susan | so what do I do guys?? |
| 09:01 | is there any hope.. | |
| 09:01 | chris | the problem is, your records dont have 001 set properly |
| 09:01 | Koha-Susan: just give us some time to look at it, we cant react instantly | |
| 09:01 | Koha-Susan | and thats perfectly fine chris...I am going to leave my chat online right now. I have a meeting for 2 hours. |
| 09:01 | If I come back , will you guys be still here? | |
| 09:01 | I am not sure what time it is for you there | |
| 09:02 | hdl_laptop | I shall be. |
| 09:02 | Koha-Susan | Thank you very much |
| 09:02 | hdl_laptop | But there sure is some problem with your authority import. |
| 09:02 | Koha-Susan | I will be back in 2 hours I hope they don't make me stay there for more.. |
| 09:02 | hdl_laptop | you should have some authid set. |
| 09:02 | chris | hdl_laptop: it isnt an import |
| 09:02 | Koha-Susan | Yes definitly it is my authority import. Maybe if you tell me how to create a "Good" authority??? correctly? |
| 09:02 | chris | its creating the authority in koha |
| 09:03 | Koha-Susan | Because the only thing I do is fill in tab 1, tag a with a name |
| 09:03 | and the rest I just click Save and then try searching for it | |
| 09:03 | maybe thats a wrong way fo creating authroity? I don't know | |
| 09:03 | hdl_laptop | Koha-Susan: are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC ? |
| 09:03 | Koha-Susan | oh...so maybe its indexing then? Rather than Import?? or maybe the import is ok, but NOT fully OK, because like Fredereic said, NO xml IN MARCXML colum |
| 09:03 | MARC21 | |
| 09:04 | while in MARCXML colum in BIBLIOITEMS, I see XML tags... | |
| 09:05 | Hi, just checking that |I am still connected | |
| 09:05 | please say yes | |
| 09:06 | I am in a meeting now, be back 2 hours | |
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| 09:07 | susan-meeting is now known as susan-meeting-2 | |
| 09:07 | susan-meeting-2 | I am now in a meeting, but I am still looking at the logs, just can't type anyting |
| 09:07 | \be back in 2 hours | |
| 09:18 | chris | personally i would check your library actually needs authorities, and if not, turn them off, and then solve this problem when you dont have a deadline |
| 09:33 | susan-meeting-2 | my library director is _______ |
| 09:33 | so I have to get her authorities, she yelled at me yesterday | |
| 09:34 | still in a meeting, back maybe 30 minutes, I cut it short so I can get some help | |
| 09:34 | be back in 30 or 40 minutes to continue this | |
| 09:34 | ] | |
| 09:34 | would you believe I didnt even eat lunch today | |
| 09:34 | sighs | |
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| 09:54 | audun | hey guys. I'm trying to import using z39.50. When I click "add Item", I get the following msg: "found MARCXML element datafield, but the <record> wrapper is missing at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/XML.pm line 445" |
| 09:54 | any ideas? | |
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| 10:06 | |Lupin| | audun: no, no idea, sorry |
| 10:07 | chris: ? | |
| 10:11 | susan-meeting-2 | i am back |
| 10:12 | so, who will help me? Ldp here? or chris? or fredreicd? | |
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| 10:18 | Susan-Tired | um.... |
| 10:19 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: ? |
| 10:19 | magnusenger | audun: do you get the same for all z39.50 servers? which one are you searching? |
| 10:20 | Susan-Tired | thats me |
| 10:20 | susan-koha, koha-dev | |
| 10:20 | thats all me hehe | |
| 10:20 | I can't seem to log out of irc for some reason..it always keeps my name there | |
| 10:20 | I am using the web system | |
| 10:20 | so hdl, could you please go with me step by step from the beginning of authority, I believe you are the expert in this part | |
| 10:20 | :) please?? | |
| 10:26 | no reply? busy? | |
| 10:26 | kf | hi Susan, which version of Koha are u using? I just added an authority and it seemed to work ok. |
| 10:27 | Susan-Tired | ok, I am using Koha 3.00.00 |
| 10:27 | I can't ugrade because I made a lot of customizations | |
| 10:27 | kf | where are u adding the authorities? cataloging or authorities module? |
| 10:28 | Susan-Tired | let me see how I am adding it |
| 10:28 | give mea sec please | |
| 10:28 | kf | I tried from authorites, will go to cataloging now |
| 10:28 | Susan-Tired | Main page, under Cataloging, i see Authorities |
| 10:28 | click on new "authority" | |
| 10:29 | kf | ok |
| 10:29 | thats what I did | |
| 10:30 | I chose personal name | |
| 10:30 | Susan-Tired | when you search for the authority, do you get it back>?? |
| 10:30 | yah personal name, then? | |
| 10:30 | kf | I added 100 a |
| 10:30 | Susan-Tired | ok then? |
| 10:31 | kf | tried to save, got prompted with missing mandatory fields, they got auto-filled and saved again |
| 10:31 | Susan-Tired | ok thats what I did too |
| 10:31 | kf | ok |
| 10:31 | Susan-Tired | then you search for this authority and you find it? |
| 10:31 | kf | yes |
| 10:31 | Susan-Tired | after you do rebuild-zebra? |
| 10:32 | kf | in authorities it seems to work immediately |
| 10:32 | Susan-Tired | if you go to your mysql database, under table AUTH_header, for column marcxml |
| 10:32 | do you see normal text data, OR xml data | |
| 10:32 | kf | one moment |
| 10:32 | I have to find it :) | |
| 10:33 | Susan-Tired | please do |
| 10:33 | kf | over 26.000 authorities there |
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| 10:33 | Susan-Tired | I just wantt os ee if this is my issue or everyone |
| 10:33 | oh | |
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| 10:33 | audun | magnusenger: searching z3950.bibsys.no and z3950.nb.no |
| 10:33 | Susan-Tired | just select * from auth_header where authid=1 |
| 10:33 | returns first one | |
| 10:33 | magnusenger | audun: let me test... |
| 10:34 | kf | hm |
| 10:34 | Susan-Tired | well? |
| 10:35 | kf | give me a sec |
| 10:35 | ah wrong database | |
| 10:35 | Susan-Tired | hehe |
| 10:35 | ok I will wait | |
| 10:35 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: can you pastebin marcxml data ? |
| 10:36 | magnusenger | audun: bibsys works for me. What version are you on? |
| 10:36 | kf | xml |
| 10:36 | and it created 001 | |
| 10:36 | Susan-Tired | <Susan-Tired> I really dont know how to tell <Susan-Tired> can you go to the main koha site hdl..or you want private so no one bothers you? <Susan-Tired> I don't mind either.. <Susan-Tired> hdl, notice that once I do rebuild_zebra <Susan-Tired> I get the error No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml <Susan-Tired> then it tells me Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 |
| 10:37 | kindly tell me how can I paste marxml data?? | |
| 10:37 | what command should I use?? | |
| 10:37 | audun | magnusenger: 3.00.00.107 |
| 10:37 | Susan-Tired | or you want the result from MYSQL?? |
| 10:37 | audun | magnusenger: and perl 5.10 |
| 10:38 | kf | Susan-Tired: looks like this for me: http://pastebin.com/d6ec1ba4e |
| 10:38 | Susan-Tired | ok let me check please |
| 10:39 | oh i see.... | |
| 10:39 | hdl_laptop, kindly note that his marcxml from mysql is nice and all xmly | |
| 10:39 | while mine is just normal text | |
| 10:39 | I will show you | |
| 10:41 | http://pastebin.com/m36c62614 | |
| 10:42 | kf | looks like .mrc |
| 10:42 | Susan-Tired | maybe my data is simple text because of this issue "no such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/athorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml">> That I get during rebuild -a |
| 10:42 | I tried to search for this issue in google, ALSO nothing | |
| 10:43 | kf | I was testing with : 3.01.00.061 |
| 10:43 | I dont think its a problem with idexing | |
| 10:44 | it should be stored as xml | |
| 10:44 | Susan-Tired | i dont really know kf. |
| 10:44 | I am very confused.. | |
| 10:44 | kf | hm |
| 10:45 | sorry, I am not a programmer - so I dont know exactly how koha is supposed to work here | |
| 10:45 | Susan-Tired | its ok kf |
| 10:45 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: Your problem might be of a configuration problem |
| 10:46 | I am much used to GRS configuration and not to DOM configuration. | |
| 10:46 | Susan-Tired | some say it might be because of the modules for authorities |
| 10:47 | mine point to /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules | |
| 10:47 | but that is the right place I think... | |
| 10:47 | I can change it to GRS...just as long as it fixes my issue...what do I have to do?read? | |
| 10:48 | the modules is not the issue..It is pointing to /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0 which is correct | |
| 10:50 | kf | grs or dom is chosen during installation |
| 10:51 | but dont know how if you can change it easily after that | |
| 10:51 | Susan-Tired | ok... |
| 10:52 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: it is not that easy. |
| 10:52 | Susan-Tired | so in your professional opinion, there is no solution for this matter, except reinstall?? |
| 10:53 | and maybe a newer version than 3.0.0? | |
| 10:53 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: That could be the easiest way to cope with that. |
| 10:53 | Susan-Tired | what if I disable zebra?? and simply do myself?? |
| 10:53 | simply do mysql? | |
| 10:53 | Will that fix the issue?? | |
| 10:54 | We don't have a lot of data, maybe 1000-300 max | |
| 10:55 | kf | is your system in production? |
| 10:55 | Susan-Tired | yes but still not used |
| 10:55 | but I made alot of modifications to it | |
| 10:56 | relative to design and such | |
| 10:56 | hdl_laptop | oh.... |
| 10:56 | kf | you changed the templates? |
| 10:56 | Susan-Tired | yes many times.. |
| 10:57 | do you guys know anyone who might be able to help with this at all? | |
| 10:57 | or do I have to give up and get the library director to yell at me? | |
| 10:58 | kf | customizations that prevent you from updating are a general problem |
| 10:58 | hdl_laptop | you could also change all the zebra-authorities-dom.cfg in your installation file to zebra-authorities.cfg |
| 10:58 | Susan-Tired | I have done that...that PRODUCES a different issue |
| 10:58 | let me do it again and tell you of the issue that it gives me | |
| 10:58 | give me 1 minute please | |
| 11:00 | I will copy/paste now | |
| 11:00 | ok? | |
| 11:02 | pastebot | "Susan-Tired" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "mistuserMIST-Koha-Test:/tmp/U" (56 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/40 |
| 11:02 | Susan-Tired | ok I pasted it |
| 11:02 | kindly please view it, I hope it can trigger something in your head | |
| 11:06 | .... | |
| 11:09 | kf | Susan-Tired: perhaps try again with your problem in the afternoon when usa is awake too |
| 11:09 | ok... timezones | |
| 11:10 | from my point of view afternoon (Germany ;) ) | |
| 11:11 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: mmm... If the mysqldata is broken, then the result cannot really be good. |
| 11:11 | Can you reset your auth_header table and re create one or two authorities please ? | |
| 11:13 | Susan-Tired | kindly tell me how to reset this table? |
| 11:14 | just delete all the data in this table?? | |
| 11:14 | |Lupin| | Susan-Tired: yes |
| 11:14 | Susan-Tired | ok I will do that |
| 11:14 | and I will keep you udated | |
| 11:15 | |Lupin| | Susan-Tired: or maybe do a truncate auth_head; |
| 11:15 | Susan-Tired | ok did that |
| 11:15 | now should I do rebuild zebra again? | |
| 11:15 | the problem is rebuild zebra gives me issues on its own, because it does not index anything!! | |
| 11:16 | Now should I add a new authority first? Before indexing?? | |
| 11:16 | |Lupin| | Susan-Tired: yes |
| 11:17 | Susan-Tired | ok I added a new Authority now |
| 11:17 | kf | lunch time - good luck Susan, I hope your problem can be solved! |
| 11:18 | Susan-Tired | same issue. it tells me tmp/XXXXXX/authority/exported_records:0 record.abs:13: couln't find att 'any' in attset |
| 11:18 | then unable to acquire abstract syntax for 'record' | |
| 11:18 | then record didn't contain match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) | |
| 11:18 | hdl_laptop | huh... |
| 11:19 | Susan-Tired | IF These errors are helpfull, I would figure it out...but its like trying to read turkish.. |
| 11:19 | this is AFTER I removed the -dom section from authorities.cfg | |
| 11:19 | in koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:19 | hdl_laptop | unable to acquire 'abstract syntax' this is really strange. |
| 11:20 | have you launched zebraidx -d authorities -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg init ? | |
| 11:20 | Susan-Tired | after I made those changes??? |
| 11:20 | no I have not | |
| 11:20 | but before YES I have | |
| 11:21 | hdl_laptop | can you do that now ? and then try to reindex ? |
| 11:22 | Susan-Tired | ok just did that |
| 11:22 | and now I will reindex | |
| 11:23 | same exact problem hdl | |
| 11:23 | I don't know what is wrong with this...WHY does my biblios WORK and this does not | |
| 11:23 | I DONT know....... | |
| 11:23 | How do I know if a database was created for authorities?? I know that no records are entered into the database, BUT how do I know if a database has been created??? | |
| 11:24 | http://paste.workbuffer.org/40 | |
| 11:25 | the error it shows | |
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| 11:56 | Susan-Tired | hey guys on production. It gives me the same issue no dom file record type found |
| 11:56 | but when I search for a user | |
| 11:56 | the returned error is search authorities error 114 | |
| 11:56 | which is different than 109 | |
| 11:56 | any help with that??? | |
| 11:56 | my production is different than my test machine | |
| 11:58 | mason | fyi: you've got an old verion of zebra susan. |
| 11:59 | 'zebra_start /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg 1.3.50' | |
| 11:59 | s/verion/version/ | |
| 12:00 | Susan-Tired | how do I check sorry for version?? |
| 12:00 | and would update zebra fix all these darn issues? sorry for the language... | |
| 12:01 | mason | $ zebraidx -V |
| 12:01 | Zebra 2.0.42 | |
| 12:01 | Susan-Tired | zebra 1.3.50 date 2007 |
| 12:01 | should I update it?? | |
| 12:01 | mason | it would be a great start ;) |
| 12:01 | Susan-Tired | and would thsi mess up my system???? |
| 12:01 | how do I update it... | |
| 12:01 | mason | depends on your system... |
| 12:01 | Susan-Tired | Ubuntu |
| 12:02 | mason | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]83b9ef6912db031f9 |
| 12:02 | Susan-Tired | ok I will see |
| 12:03 | mason | 1.3 Install the Yaz and Zebra packages |
| 12:03 | Run the following command to update your system: | |
| 12:03 | $ sudo apt-get update | |
| 12:03 | $ sudo apt-get install yaz idzebra-2.0 idzebra-2.0-doc | |
| 12:03 | Susan-Tired | but I have this idzebra-2.0 |
| 12:03 | under /etc/lib or somewhere like that | |
| 12:03 | or /usr/lib | |
| 12:04 | mason | $ which zebraidx |
| 12:04 | you have 2 versions of zebraidx your box? | |
| 12:04 | Susan-Tired | did you get that? |
| 12:04 | mason | i guess... :/ |
| 12:04 | Susan-Tired | it says |
| 12:05 | ahhh why can't I write " | |
| 12:05 | stupid | |
| 12:05 | let me try again "under usr bin zebraidx"\ | |
| 12:05 | mason | /usr/bin/zebraidx |
| 12:05 | Susan-Tired | thats what it says |
| 12:05 | yes | |
| 12:05 | mason | so you have bad paths on your box, and multiple versions of zebra ? |
| 12:06 | Susan-Tired | How can I fix this? but Mason...my Biblios work fine |
| 12:06 | both adding/saving/searching | |
| 12:06 | but only Authorities is giving me stupid trouble | |
| 12:07 | I can save...but when I do rebuild_zebra -a it gives me no record type found dom....et etc etc | |
| 12:07 | mason | AKAIK authorities work using DOM, which needs zebra-2 |
| 12:07 | Susan-Tired | but biblios work why?? |
| 12:07 | please help me understand?? | |
| 12:07 | and how do I fix this path issues.....I suck at linux :) | |
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| 12:08 | Susan-Tired | i have two versions of zebra!! i can see them idzebra-config |
| 12:08 | and idzebra-config 2.0 | |
| 12:08 | and similar repaeated files for all others when I go locate zebra | |
| 12:08 | mason | update your deb packages 1st |
| 12:09 | Susan-Tired | should I just delete each one manualy..sounds time consuming |
| 12:09 | mason | remove your old (and problematic) zebra1 packages |
| 12:09 | Susan-Tired | .how?? |
| 12:09 | mason | manually ;) |
| 12:10 | Susan-Tired | no uninstall feature here ubuntu where I can uninstall zebra? |
| 12:10 | and just install again?? | |
| 12:10 | hehehe | |
| 12:11 | mason | $ apt-get remove idzebra |
| 12:11 | Susan-Tired | actually sorry just a question |
| 12:11 | can I just change the path to point to the new zebra?? | |
| 12:11 | does it not work this way?? | |
| 12:11 | or no? | |
| 12:12 | mason | its safer for you to remove the old one |
| 12:12 | Susan-Tired | ok I will do that then |
| 12:13 | mason | its already causing you trouble... |
| 12:13 | Susan-Tired | ok... |
| 12:13 | it removed idzebra | |
| 12:13 | what should I do now?:? | |
| 12:14 | mason | heres what i did in your exact situation.... |
| 12:15 | Susan-Tired | ok...listening.. |
| 12:15 | mason | set up release version of koha3, and experiment with authorities on it |
| 12:16 | for me zebra-GRS1 didnt work, only a DOM install :/ | |
| 12:17 | Susan-Tired | I am using Koha 3.0.0 |
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| 12:17 | Susan-Tired | and I cant update because I did alot of template changing... |
| 12:17 | so all my hard work is gone.. | |
| 12:17 | mason | use the cmdline bulk-marc-import scripts to load in some sane test records |
| 12:18 | not really... | |
| 12:18 | Susan-Tired | by the way...now my rebuild_zebra stopped working |
| 12:18 | I guess this apt-get remove did some funky things | |
| 12:19 | mason | after your record import, check that your got real auth data in the 'auth_header' table.. |
| 12:19 | Susan-Tired | do you think the liblime people might be able to help me |
| 12:19 | if my company pays money?? | |
| 12:20 | mason | yep |
| 12:21 | Susan-Tired | I just hope it does not get to this point...my company might rethink why they hired me |
| 12:21 | hehe | |
| 12:21 | thought o be fair, I didn't even eat lunch today just so I can work on this problem | |
| 12:21 | and no fix yet :( | |
| 12:21 | mason | well, it sure took me a few days to work out :) |
| 12:22 | but, haaay - you do need a *sane* koha system to work on.. | |
| 12:22 | with a recent zebra too! ;) | |
| 12:23 | Susan-Tired | I understand. From what I understand...I have a feeling that I need to re-install everything |
| 12:23 | on a fresh install... | |
| 12:23 | The problem is..I will loose all my fancy templating.. | |
| 12:23 | mason | yep, but dont wipe all your old hard-work! |
| 12:23 | Susan-Tired | and the deadline for Koha-prod will have to be delayed |
| 12:23 | and you have no IDEA how _ the director of the library is | |
| 12:27 | mason | http://www.library.northwester[…]c/gsafd/gsafd.mrc |
| 12:28 | i used these sample auth-records to start import testing, in my koha3 | |
| 12:31 | Susan-Tired | I have a question kindly help me with it |
| 12:32 | Right now zebra is being a **** with Authorities | |
| 12:32 | Can I make authorities NOT use zebra? While Biblios DO?? | |
| 12:33 | mason | nope |
| 12:34 | Susan-Tired | i see... |
| 12:35 | how about if I want to disable zebra | |
| 12:35 | and make it work with nozebra | |
| 12:35 | can I do that?? | |
| 12:35 | it seems to make my life easier | |
| 12:36 | mason | no, stick with zebra, just update to ver2... |
| 12:37 | Susan-Tired | but Mason, I have both |
| 12:37 | and when I did remove idzepra | |
| 12:37 | that messed up everything so now my test machine is unusable | |
| 12:37 | so I went back to dev...I don't know how to remove ver1 and replace everything to use ver2 | |
| 12:37 | can you direct me somewhere , like a tutorial or something? If you know of any | |
| 12:38 | mason | # dpkg -l|grep -i zeb |
| 12:38 | says what? | |
| 12:38 | ie: what zebra packages do you currently have installed... | |
| 12:39 | Susan-Tired | idzebra |
| 12:39 | idzebra-2 | |
| 12:39 | both of those | |
| 12:39 | mason | right... |
| 12:39 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: reading back logs. |
| 12:40 | mason | # apt-get remove idzebra |
| 12:40 | hdl_laptop | error 114 is really different from Error 109 : |
| 12:40 | Susan-Tired | yes it is |
| 12:40 | hdl_laptop | 109 : database unavailable |
| 12:40 | Susan-Tired | I get this error on my production system |
| 12:40 | which is the latest... | |
| 12:40 | hdl_laptop | 114 : error on attribute. |
| 12:40 | Susan-Tired | my dev and test..sometimes I forget to update them |
| 12:40 | I know, I work on prod first hehe | |
| 12:40 | any ideas on a fix hdl?? | |
| 12:41 | mason | focus susan.... remove your old zebra! |
| 12:41 | hdl_laptop | I just saw that Mason had great ideas. |
| 12:41 | Susan-Tired | Yes mr.Mason |
| 12:41 | hdl_laptop | About zebra versions. |
| 12:41 | Susan-Tired | but I cant!! |
| 12:41 | I don't want to use sudo apt-get remove idzebra | |
| 12:41 | it removed ALOT of things and it messed up my test server | |
| 12:41 | there must be a nother way | |
| 12:41 | like telling ubutnu alternatives or something!@ | |
| 12:41 | please | |
| 12:42 | mason | i doesnt remove a lot of things, it removes zebra |
| 12:42 | s/i/it/ | |
| 12:42 | Susan-Tired | I can tell you what happened. When I did it on the test machine. It removed many pre-important packages/lib |
| 12:43 | so later whe I did rebuild-b | |
| 12:43 | it didn't tell me anything about the "Indexing" section, just left it empty | |
| 12:43 | so even my biblios got ruined | |
| 12:43 | so it does not use the idzebra 2.0 | |
| 12:43 | I even tried to install this idzebra 2.0 | |
| 12:43 | but it does not allow me ..something with libyaz3 or stuff like that | |
| 12:44 | mason | yes... that 'stuff' is important |
| 12:44 | Susan-Tired | yes...but I can't install them |
| 12:44 | it says no installable package | |
| 12:44 | I can put the error mesage for you? Give me a minute please | |
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| 12:47 | mason | then remove *both* zebras, and install zebra-2 |
| 12:48 | Susan-Tired | ok give me a minute please mason |
| 12:49 | mason | and dont start on your auths problem, until you've sorted out your zebra issue |
| 12:49 | my hunch is that auths need zebra2... | |
| 12:50 | Susan-Tired | ..I can't install idzebra.20 |
| 12:51 | it says idzebra-1.9 depends idzebra-2.0-utils but it is not going to be installed | |
| 12:51 | then I stid sudo apt-get install idzebra-2.0-utils | |
| 12:51 | it gaves me otherissues, like libgnutls13 , libicu36 and libyaz3 | |
| 12:51 | ...??? | |
| 12:51 | The problem is before I followed tutorials on how to do all this...so it told me what to install before hand and such | |
| 12:51 | now I am lost.. | |
| 12:53 | hdl_laptop | the tutorial also told you to use indexdata repositories and not ubuntu as far as i can tell. |
| 12:53 | mason | yep, that is your missed step, susan... |
| 12:53 | the ubuntu versions of zebra are 1.9... | |
| 12:54 | hdl_laptop | (Indexdata repository is the uptodate source for zebra server and yaz) |
| 12:54 | mason | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]de_ubuntu_hardy&s[]=ubuntu&s[]=install |
| 12:55 | add this... | |
| 12:55 | deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ubuntu/ hardy main | |
| 12:56 | hdl_laptop | Susan-Tired: I have just read INSTALL.ubuntu from the tarball and it doesnot mention indexdata source. |
| 12:56 | mason | ah, its missing from there :/ |
| 12:56 | hdl_laptop | Sorry. It should have. |
| 12:57 | Susan-Tired | give me a minute please |
| 12:57 | mason | fyi: its in the debian INSTALL file. |
| 12:57 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]83b9ef6912db031f9 | |
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| 13:00 | mason | /me sneaks some food.... |
| 13:02 | Susan-Tired | Thank you mason, I will leave you to rest now |
| 13:02 | kernel_2 | is there a way to run independent branches with seperate dbs(preferably on seperate machines)? The only point of integration being opac search.... |
| 13:02 | Susan-Tired | I am going to go kill something hehe, jk..I hae to leave.. |
| 13:02 | soooooooooooo tired | |
| 13:02 | kernel_2 | know it sounds outlandish but still wanted to give it a try |
| 13:03 | Susan-Tired | what I amg oing to do though mason is, in 1 week, I will setup a different machine and install the latest version of Koha, AND NO more template customizeations! |
| 13:03 | hehe | |
| 13:03 | thank you very much, I am going to go rest now | |
| 13:04 | mason | no problemo, its always great to help someone out |
| 13:04 | kf | Susan-Tired: you can do a lot of nice things just with css and jquery, owen is a great source for tips :) |
| 13:05 | Susan-Tired | thanks... |
| 13:05 | Do you guys think the newest version of koha has these issues fixed?? | |
| 13:05 | especially if I just install idzebra2.0?? | |
| 13:05 | or maybe I should go without zebra | |
| 13:05 | since our library is not huge right now | |
| 13:05 | kernel_2 | the setup is of different libraries with their own servers, and wanting a way to search among all these libraries.... |
| 13:09 | mason | susan, your problem isnt a koha problem, you have an old version of zebra |
| 13:09 | * gmcharlt | is driving from Gainesville to Atlanta, back online in a bit |
| 13:09 | Susan-Tired | ok mason |
| 13:10 | mason | your system (for whatever reason) is using the old zeb, not your new zeb |
| 13:12 | fyi: use zebra, nozeb has old functionallity gaps, and no-one is working on fixing them | |
| 13:12 | Susan-Tired | ok mason |
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| 13:22 | jdavidb | Good morning, owen! |
| 13:22 | owen | Hi |
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| 13:24 | ftherese | I have a really simple question |
| 13:24 | jdavidb | I got presented with an interesting puzzler last week; someone wants to run two Koha servers in a consortium--including multiple mysql servers. Multimaster replication is tricky, but they've got a good clean network between the two sites, so it oughta work |
| 13:24 | Ask it, ftherese. :) | |
| 13:24 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 13:24 | ftherese | I want to move from a filemaker database to kola |
| 13:25 | I've already installed kola | |
| 13:25 | working... | |
| 13:25 | but how do I import into the kola database? | |
| 13:26 | I am not exactly sure where the "import" button is... and as I look at it, it is perhaps a bit more complicated | |
| 13:26 | Is there a page I can read? | |
| 13:26 | fredericd | ftherese: You can't directly. You need first to convert you FM records into UNIMARC. |
| 13:26 | ftherese | ok |
| 13:26 | I can do that | |
| 13:26 | jdavidb | yup. First thing, your records are going to have to be in some fairly-standard MARC form...then the import is pretty straightforward. |
| 13:27 | ftherese | then how do I go about importing the unimarc formatted data? |
| 13:27 | jdavidb | Here's one document on it: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ecords-for-import |
| 13:27 | It's under "Tools" in Koha. | |
| 13:28 | ftherese | ok great... I'll read that |
| 13:28 | ahh.. there we go! Thanks... I most likely will be back, but that should keep me busy for a while | |
| 13:29 | jdavidb | :) Glad to help. |
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| 13:48 | paul_p | ftherese: hello. do you know we have a french speaking channel on freenode (#koha-fr) |
| 13:49 | ftherese | yeah... I was there for a couple of minute, but no one else was in there |
| 13:49 | oh -fr | |
| 13:49 | ok | |
| 13:49 | I am actually English speaking, but will be installing in french | |
| 13:50 | so I might find myself going over there eventually, thanks :) | |
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| 14:17 | fallor | hi |
| 14:19 | owen | Hi fallor |
| 14:20 | fallor | would you be able to help me with autobarcode? |
| 14:22 | owen | Not me, I don't have any experience with it. Maybe someone else who's here? |
| 14:23 | fallor | oh, I think i got it working now |
| 14:23 | simple misconfiguration | |
| 14:24 | yep | |
| 14:24 | all well now | |
| 14:24 | :) | |
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| 14:51 | jdavidb | howdy, nengard! |
| 14:51 | nengard | hiya jdavidb |
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| 14:57 | wizzyrea | wow, busy morning |
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| 14:59 | * jdavidb | waves happily at wizzyrea. |
| 15:00 | * wizzyrea | waves at jdavidb |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | hi! |
| 15:17 | hdl_laptop | hi american folks |
| 15:17 | jdavidb | Hi, hdl_laptop :) |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | mornin hdl |
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| 16:11 | ftherese | hello... trying to access koha from other computers (other than the localhost) what do I need to change in the configuration of apache or kola-httpd.conf to accomplish this |
| 16:11 | they are all on the same intranet | |
| 16:13 | Ropuch | <VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8080> |
| 16:13 | and:80 | |
| 16:14 | Change the ip | |
| 16:14 | ftherese | ok |
| 16:14 | thank you! | |
| 16:14 | Ropuch | :) |
| 16:14 | fredericd: in ubuntu/debian it's in /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha | |
| 16:15 | ftherese | got it... perfect |
| 16:15 | works! | |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | if you http://ip.address.of.koha:8080 you can't get in? |
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| 16:18 | Ropuch | wizzyrea: I think ftherese had apache listening on 127.0.0.1 only |
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| 17:04 | * chris_n | wanders off in search of food |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | Yea, that waws where I was headed, but had to leave my desk, so thanks for taking care of her Ropuch :) |
| 17:05 | Ropuch | [; |
| 17:08 | kf | ok, time to leave work - bye #koha |
| 17:08 | :) | |
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| 17:29 | brendan | hello and good morning #koha |
| 17:30 | jdavidb | Hi, brendan! :) |
| 17:32 | Ropuch | Hi brendan, jdavidb, nengard |
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| 17:54 | jwagner | owen, online? |
| 17:55 | owen | Yes |
| 17:56 | jwagner | Question for you and/or any catalogers around. I ran into a title CONCUR '99 ISBN: 3540664254 with an odd (to me) 111 field. |
| 17:56 | a International Conference on Concurrency Theory -- n (10th : -- d 1999 : c Eindhoven, Netherlands) | |
| 17:57 | LC standard for 111 subfield n says it's Number of part/section/meeting. However, XSLT doesn't have it set to display, which means that part of the author field looks like | |
| 17:57 | Baeten, J. C. M ; Mauw, S .International Conference on Concurrency Theory 1999 : Eindhoven, Netherlands). -- note the closing paren without the opening paren, | |
| 17:58 | jdavidb | That looks pretty normal for a conference author, Jane. I've eyeballed a few of them before. Might need some XSLT love. |
| 17:58 | jwagner | For this particular site, I set both results and display to check for a 111n, and if present to display before 111a. Is that the best solution overall? If so, I'll do a patch. |
| 18:00 | * owen | has no technical knowledge of the proper solution, would choose the solution that looks the most sensible |
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| 18:02 | jdavidb | That should be sensible, Jane, based on the MARC standard for 111. |
| 18:05 | jwagner | Wasn't sure how widespread the 111n might be, and if it's used like this. I also want to take the XSLT closing period off the last occurrence of the 111/711 fields -- usually the entry has its own period, which means there are two in the display. |
| 18:07 | Looking at the LC MARC, it probably needs the same subfield n fix for the 711 as for the 111. | |
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| 18:25 | chris | morning |
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| 18:28 | nengard | pianohacker - as I go through the prefs for documentation I have been reporting bugs to you :) |
| 18:28 | Ropuch | Hi chris, pianohacker |
| 18:28 | hello nengard | |
| 18:28 | pianohacker | hi, Ropuch, nengard |
| 18:29 | nengard | brb |
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| 18:29 | pianohacker | @later tell nengard I've noticed :) working my way down through them in order of severity, will send a pull-request for all of them at once |
| 18:29 | munin | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:30 | chris | :) |
| 18:30 | i need to do another pull request for translations too | |
| 18:30 | * chris_n | greets chris |
| 18:30 | chris | hiya chris_n |
| 18:31 | Ropuch | Which remids i should find time to finish translating staff |
| 18:31 | chris_n | and pianohacker |
| 18:31 | Ropuch | s/remids/reminds me |
| 18:31 | Hi chris_n | |
| 18:31 | chris_n | hi Ropuch |
| 18:31 | pianohacker | hi, chris_* |
| 18:32 | chris_n | heh |
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| 18:35 | pianohacker | It's actually rather satisfying to work through a list of bugs |
| 18:42 | chris | has anyone tried the new live cd? |
| 18:43 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]_based_opac_kiosk | |
| 18:43 | chris_n | what obvious thing am I missing here when perl -e 'print (4 - 2) + 4;' yields 2? |
| 18:45 | Ropuch | perl -e 'print ((4 - 2) + 4)' |
| 18:45 | chris_n | ok, why? precedence? |
| 18:46 | * chris_n | tries to get his math co-processor untied out of a gordian knot :-P |
| 18:46 | chris | no its just printing the first bit |
| 18:47 | Ropuch | chris_n: I have no idea, I don't know perl, I've just figured this out [; |
| 18:47 | chris | perl -e '$a = (4 - 2) + 4 ; print $a' |
| 18:48 | its just a function of the print | |
| 18:48 | not the math | |
| 18:48 | Ropuch | Hm, Live CD is worth trying |
| 18:48 | chris_n | tnx |
| 18:48 | * chris_n | always thought he was fairly good at math, but was beginning to doubt it |
| 18:49 | chris | :) |
| 18:50 | ok bus time | |
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| 19:08 | nengard | well then pianohacker I'm glad to be of service :) |
| 19:09 | pianohacker | nengard: I do appreciate the checking, a lot of the descriptions are a bit... byzantine |
| 19:10 | nengard | I'm glad I'm re-writing the manual - it requires me to pay more attention than copying the old one into XML |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | so this kiosk is basically just a web browser + ubuntu defaulted to your koha catalog? |
| 19:18 | (we do this using a thing called webconverger) | |
| 19:19 | nengard | okay - question about stopwrods |
| 19:19 | stopwords | |
| 19:19 | we have a pref for them - but the link from the admin panel for them is gone .... | |
| 19:20 | owen | nengard: The link is hidden if you use Zebra |
| 19:20 | The link only shows now if noZebra is turned on | |
| 19:20 | nengard | thanks owen - then pianohacker - you may want to remove the link to stop words from the preferences |
| 19:21 | off to write another bug | |
| 19:22 | owen | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3564 |
| 19:22 | munin | 04Bug 3564: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Hide Stop Words configuration if NoZebra is ON |
| 19:22 | owen | That's when it changed. |
| 19:24 | nengard | thanks |
| 19:25 | cait | not sure if its a bug or a feature: staff can add books to every public list, but only in list module, its not possible from detail or result |
| 19:28 | owen | cait: I think it's not correct that any staff member should be able to add to any public list |
| 19:28 | cait | hm oh i like it, but i think it should be possible everywhere |
| 19:28 | owen | One should only be able to add to lists which you created |
| 19:29 | cait | its in nicoles documentation on lists to |
| 19:29 | so I dont think its a bug, but intended to work this way in lists | |
| 19:30 | nengard | owen - I disagree |
| 19:30 | I'd like that the staff should be able to alter the public lists | |
| 19:31 | or - I think that the staff should be able to alter the public lists | |
| 19:31 | sorry -brain tired | |
| 19:31 | cait | in my libary staff wants to make heavy use of lists, but once one created the list, the other cant add books easily (only by barcode) |
| 19:31 | nengard: do you think it should work on result list and detail page too? | |
| 19:31 | nengard | right - so the staff should be able to edit all but private lists |
| 19:31 | it should work all over - if it works at all | |
| 19:31 | cait | nengard: I think this makes sense |
| 19:32 | ok, I will retest it later (just to be sure) and file a bug | |
| 19:32 | nengard | okay - off to eat lunch |
| 19:32 | * nengard | lunching |
| 19:38 | chris | back at work |
| 19:40 | owen | Hi chris |
| 19:40 | chris | heya owen, hows things? |
| 19:40 | owen | Going pretty well |
| 19:40 | chris | good to hear |
| 19:40 | owen | I managed to miss another Athens Halloween block party |
| 19:41 | chris | :) |
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| 19:51 | brendan | howdy owen chris |
| 19:51 | hi gmcharlt | |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | hi brendan |
| 19:52 | chris | heya brendan, i see your client went live today? |
| 19:52 | brendan | hmm... pacifica |
| 19:52 | chris | sweet |
| 19:52 | brendan | not sure how live they are making it |
| 19:53 | I think they are keeping it internal | |
| 19:53 | chris | ah righto |
| 19:53 | brendan | at least live in no old system :) |
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| 19:56 | gmcharlt | brendan++ |
| 19:56 | brendan | @karma |
| 19:56 | munin | brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (64), "owen" (60), and "gmcharlt" (58). Lowest karma: "failed" (-19), "<!" (-18), and "src="<!" (-9). You (brendan) are ranked 16 out of 521. |
| 19:56 | brendan | not bad |
| 19:56 | thanks gmcharlt | |
| 19:56 | owen | Poor "<!" |
| 19:56 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:57 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.4�C (11:51 AM PST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:57 | brendan | <!-- |
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| 20:00 | magnusenger | heh, think i found a tiny bug in marc21_field_008.pl: line 145 should probably be "f30$f30" => $f30, not "f230$f30" => $f30, |
| 20:00 | chris | oh can you send a patch? :) |
| 20:00 | get your name in the history doc :) | |
| 20:01 | magnusenger | sorry, not quite sure how to do that yet... |
| 20:02 | would love to have my name in the history doc, though... ;-) | |
| 20:02 | nengard | magnusenger i wrote some tutorials when chris was teaching me how to submit patches |
| 20:02 | hang on i'll get the links | |
| 20:03 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ntation:tutorials | |
| 20:03 | under ad-hoc git tutorials | |
| 20:04 | magnusenger | hm, which one? |
| 20:04 | nengard | all of them :) hehe |
| 20:04 | magnusenger | a ha! |
| 20:05 | nengard | this also helps: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]pment:git_usage&s[]=git |
| 20:07 | magnusenger | ok, i'm giving it a try! |
| 20:07 | Ropuch | Ow, these tutorials are handy |
| 20:15 | nengard | thanks Ropuch, it's because gmacharlt and chris were so patient with me while I was learning - I was able to write down all they told me |
| 20:15 | or instead of gmacharlt I meant to say gmcharlt | |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | gmacharlt is gmcharlt's grandma |
| 20:18 | oh I make myself laugh | |
| 20:18 | owen | :D |
| 20:18 | * jdavidb | cackles |
| 20:18 | * gmcharlt | suddenly suffers a bout of serious identity confusion |
| 20:19 | jdavidb | aww! |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | nooo! |
| 20:19 | jwagner | As long as all of you retain your Master Of Koha (tm) status! |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | yes, gmcharlt is a Koha National Treasure (tm) |
| 20:20 | * jdavidb | is merely a Bachelor of Koha. |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | (with all of the associated intrigue... we could write a book!) |
| 20:20 | * wizzyrea | is a Serf of Koha |
| 20:21 | Ropuch | ;> |
| 20:22 | jwagner | Can I be a Graduate Student of Koha? |
| 20:22 | * nengard | guesses she's the Secretary of Koha |
| 20:24 | jdavidb | chris is one of the Seven Wonders of the Koha World, for sure. |
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| 20:26 | jdavidb | howdy, rhcl! |
| 20:28 | chris | heh |
| 20:28 | cait | dont know who I am *too tired* |
| 20:30 | jdavidb | 'cuz it's late in the day, where you are, cait? |
| 20:33 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:33 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.6�C (9:30 PM CET on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:33 | cait | ;) |
| 20:33 | nengard | okay - finished a bunch more of the new manual - time for a nap - my body is so confused with the time changes and travel and daylight svaings and I only have 6 days to recover before the next trip |
| 20:33 | be back later | |
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| 20:33 | cait | and Im translating MARC21 frameworks... torture |
| 20:36 | jwagner | cait, my sympathy! They don't make any sense in English, let alone trying to translate them. |
| 20:37 | magnusenger | chris et al: should i register a bug before i try to submit the patch? |
| 20:39 | chris | yes please |
| 20:40 | cait | jwagner: just copy&paste from official German translation - not difficult but incredibly boring |
| 20:41 | jwagner | Well, that's at least better than trying to translate official Library of Congress-ese.... |
| 20:42 | cait | ok, it is better :) |
| 20:42 | magnusenger | chris: and assign it to myself? |
| 20:42 | rhcl | Hi Hi all |
| 20:43 | cait | hi rhcl |
| 20:43 | chris | magnusenger: yup :) |
| 20:43 | magnusenger | chris: okidoki! |
| 20:44 | Ropuch | cait: how you're translating the marc framework? Making sql statements? |
| 20:44 | cait | yes, translating the sql file |
| 20:45 | first step translation, second step adding new fields and subfields we need for authority linking / bib linking / "subject chains" | |
| 20:45 | not sure how this will work out | |
| 20:45 | Ropuch | I've tried to make .po out of sql file |
| 20:46 | But I've failed and found that trabslating the sql is quicker | |
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| 21:14 | * magnusenger | thought i managed to send a patch about 20 minutes ago, but it doesn't show up anywhere - does that mean i failed, or am i just being impatient? |
| 21:16 | chris_n | magnusenger: maybe sendmail is not setup? |
| 21:16 | you can send it as an attachment via your regular email client | |
| 21:17 | magnusenger | chris_n: could very well be! I'll try to configure them email-stuff in git and have another go... |
| 21:18 | chris_n: but sending from git is way cooler, right? ;-) | |
| 21:18 | cait | you must be subscribed to koha-patches |
| 21:18 | magnusenger | cait: i am |
| 21:18 | chris_n | magnusenger: definitely :-) |
| 21:19 | gmcharlt: when's the next dev meeting? | |
| 21:20 | pianohacker | chris_n: 4 November: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]etingnotes09oct07 |
| 21:20 | chris_n | tnx |
| 21:23 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next Koha foundation IRC meeting will be held on #koha 3 December 2009 at 19:00 UTC+0 | Time Converter: http://tinyurl.com/yh4g3ed | Next general IRC meeting will be held on 7 November 2009 at 10:00 UTC+0 | Time Converter: http://tinyurl.com/yapvpy7 | |
| 21:23 | chris_n | opps |
| 21:24 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next Koha foundation IRC meeting will be held on #koha 3 December 2009 at 19:00 UTC+0 | Time Converter: http://tinyurl.com/yh4g3ed | Next general IRC meeting will be held on 4 November 2009 at 10:00 UTC+0 | Time Converter: http://tinyurl.com/ydkgnn4 | |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | Perhaps we should wait until after the general meeting to show the Foundation meeting? topic's getting a bit crowded |
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| 21:27 | Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next general IRC meeting will be held on 4 November 2009 at 10:00 UTC+0 | Time Converter: http://tinyurl.com/ydkgnn4 | |
| 21:28 | chris_n | crowded-topics-- |
| 21:29 | still could not find the 4 november notice? | |
| 21:29 | ahh.. transcript | |
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| 21:48 | magnusenger | chris_n: seems i can't figure out the smtp-stuff, and i need some sleep... so do i just send the patch-file as an ordinary attachment from my gmail to koha-patcheslists.koha.org? |
| 21:49 | chris | thats right |
| 21:50 | magnusenger | chris: nothing in the body of the message? |
| 21:50 | chris | you can if you want, just put something like, pathc for bug whatever |
| 21:50 | magnusenger | i thought that wnt in the subject? |
| 21:51 | chris | yep, that too |
| 21:51 | you can leave the body blank, normally the body is the patch, but thats an attachment in this case | |
| 21:51 | magnusenger | ok, here goes... |
| 21:56 | chris | got your email :) |
| 21:56 | and patch looks fine | |
| 21:56 | magnusenger | that was quick! ;-) And then i change the priority of the bug to PATCH-Sent, right? |
| 21:57 | chris | thats right |
| 21:57 | magnusenger | nice |
| 21:58 | cait | magnusenger: grats :) |
| 22:00 | magnusenger | cait: thanks! That's one small step for #koha, one giant leap for me... ;-) |
| 22:01 | chris | :) |
| 22:01 | magnusenger | and thanks to everyone for their patience and good humour - you rock! |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | yay magnusenger! |
| 22:07 | magnusenger | wizzyrea: ;-) |
| 22:12 | cait | ok, no more MARC21 today - good night #koha :) |
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| 22:16 | magnusenger | ...and so to bed. |
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| 22:21 | ftherese | well... so I downloaded MarcEdit... but I still don't understand how I am going to export my filemaker database in a format that can be imported into MarcEdit |
| 22:23 | anyone? | |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 22:25 | ftherese | I guess my problem is I don't understand what Marc is... |
| 22:25 | is it a predefined order of fields | |
| 22:25 | with names and such | |
| 22:26 | or is it just a format? | |
| 22:26 | I am reading from the lists: | |
| 22:26 | There is a freeware Windows MARC editor called MarcEdit | |
| 22:26 | (http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset[…]t/html/index.php) that has a | |
| 22:26 | function to convert a delimited text file to MARC format. You could | |
| 22:26 | save your spreadsheet as tab-delimited text or CSV, then use MarcEdit | |
| 22:26 | to create a file that you can import into Koha. | |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | have you been able to export your filemaker in a delimited format? |
| 22:27 | tab or comma? | |
| 22:27 | ftherese | I can do either |
| 22:27 | I am just trying to figure out which fields should be included | |
| 22:27 | and if they need to be named properly before importing | |
| 22:27 | and if there is an order they need to be in | |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | Ah, ok, so start there. MARC edit should help with that part (at least, in my limited experience) |
| 22:28 | I believe you can use marc edit to associate to the correct field no matter where it lies | |
| 22:28 | how to explain... | |
| 22:28 | ftherese | So... I can just dump my filemaker data into csv |
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| 22:28 | ftherese | and import that into marc |
| 22:28 | wizzyrea | yea, pretty much |
| 22:28 | at least, in my limited experience with marcedit | |
| 22:29 | chris | with the caveat |
| 22:29 | ftherese | and then edit the info from there... ok... |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | there's a process for "tagging" the marc fields |
| 22:29 | chris | you have to tell marcedit what field goes to what |
| 22:29 | ie if its MARC21 | |
| 22:29 | title = 245a | |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | right, I can't remember what the little subapp is called that does that |
| 22:29 | or lets you do that tagging | |
| 22:29 | chris | you will want to find a cataloguer to help you with that |
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| 22:30 | wizzyrea | we had pretty good luck looking through the koha frameworks |
| 22:30 | to find the bits we wanted | |
| 22:30 | it's time consuming, for sure | |
| 22:30 | ftherese | well it couldn't take as much time as re-entering all the books by hand |
| 22:30 | re-keying them that is | |
| 22:31 | ok... another question | |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | absolutely it won't take as long as that :) |
| 22:31 | chris | bbiab |
| 22:31 | ftherese | my library database has a few different "objects" in fact, within filemaker they were split into different databases that are conencted |
| 22:32 | so, one database for the card catalogue... which I imagine is the only thing Marc is concerned with | |
| 22:32 | another database full of users and account information | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | patrons, good |
| 22:33 | circ history? | |
| 22:33 | ftherese | another database filled with the individual books and their identification number |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | ah, ok, so bibs, patrons, and item data are all separate |
| 22:33 | ftherese | yeah... |
| 22:34 | is that pretty straightforward to get into koha? | |
| 22:34 | or does koha even deal with all the practicalities of a library | |
| 22:34 | like printing the call numbers | |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | well, in koha each item is a set of (god forgive me, i'm not a cataloger) 952 fields |
| 22:34 | yep it does all of that stuff | |
| 22:35 | so you could map your data (honestly, we only had to deal with exporting the data, we had a team of pros do our actual migration, which I would heartily recommend) | |
| 22:35 | ftherese | when you say item... you are referring to an individual book for example? |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 22:35 | so in koha, you have a bib record, and you "hang" items in the 952 associated with that bib | |
| 22:36 | so you have title records with item records attached to it | |
| 22:36 | ftherese | and then you hang patrons on the items? |
| 22:36 | (or you hang the patrons if they don't return the items) | |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | LOL :) |
| 22:37 | ftherese | how does the cataloging work? |
| 22:37 | If we have our own cataloging system for example | |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | a couple of ways, you can do ztarget searches to search for an item by ISBN and pull records from a trusted source, or you can type them in yourself through the interface |
| 22:38 | or you can bulk load them | |
| 22:38 | ftherese | sorry... I meant to ask a different question |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | hehe ok |
| 22:38 | ftherese | if we have our own system of "call numbers" |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | yep, there's a marc field for that |
| 22:39 | ftherese | for example... we have a section "A" with a number of books in a number of subcategories |
| 22:39 | then B | |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | in the item record |
| 22:39 | ftherese | so it is pretty flexible? |
| 22:40 | you don't have to do Dewey or something I mean | |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | i believe you can type in whatever call number you want |
| 22:40 | (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that_ | |
| 22:41 | ftherese | combinations of letters and numbers then? |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | yesm |
| 22:41 | ftherese | good... |
| 22:41 | I am starting to feel more at ease... we'll see what happens next | |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 22:41 | ftherese | thanks :) |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | but yea, dump your data to some delimited format, then fiddle around with marcedit |
| 22:42 | yep, no problem | |
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| 23:11 | joetho | ftherese: |
| 23:11 | ftherese | yes |
| 23:11 | I have another question :) | |
| 23:11 | joetho | yes? |
| 23:11 | ftherese | I did an install of koha, french language |
| 23:11 | joetho | yes? |
| 23:11 | ftherese | first time I visited the site |
| 23:11 | french | |
| 23:11 | Now when I visit it English | |
| 23:12 | joetho | which site? |
| 23:12 | ftherese | my local koha installation |
| 23:12 | joetho | ah. |
| 23:12 | ftherese | I can't seem to find anywhere to change the language either |
| 23:12 | joetho | I believe that is a local preference setting |
| 23:13 | ftherese | well. the default one should be french |
| 23:13 | as we will be using it in france | |
| 23:13 | with primarily french speaking people | |
| 23:13 | do you know how to set that? | |
| 23:13 | joetho | I am looking. |
| 23:13 | it was in French after you installed it? Correct? | |
| 23:14 | ftherese | correct |
| 23:14 | first time I visited it | |
| 23:14 | joetho | but now it has become English? |
| 23:14 | ftherese | yes |
| 23:15 | now it is half english half french | |
| 23:15 | I remember very clearly that it was totally in french the first time around | |
| 23:15 | joetho | I can't find that preference setting |
| 23:16 | Please post this question again | |
| 23:16 | here in this forum | |
| 23:16 | ftherese | ok |
| 23:16 | joetho | or add an email address to your question |
| 23:16 | so someone can email you a solution | |
| 23:16 | ftherese | what else did you find out... you started messaging me a few min. ago |
| 23:17 | joetho | about your records |
| 23:17 | ? | |
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| 23:17 | joetho | nicole! |
| 23:17 | nengard | joetho! |
| 23:17 | joetho | the cavalry is here! |
| 23:17 | nengard | uh oh |
| 23:17 | what did I miss | |
| 23:18 | joetho | ftherese has a local install |
| 23:18 | using french language setting | |
| 23:18 | worked fine | |
| 23:18 | but now is half english half french | |
| 23:18 | ?? | |
| 23:18 | nengard | ummmm |
| 23:18 | are you saying it just happened? | |
| 23:18 | something had to have changed? | |
| 23:18 | was there an upgrade done? | |
| 23:18 | joetho | ftherese- is this in the opac view? |
| 23:19 | nengard | or a sys pref changed? |
| 23:19 | ftherese | I am checking the I18N/L10N |
| 23:19 | tab | |
| 23:19 | and it looks like everything is set to french | |
| 23:19 | but all the tab names and layout comes up in english | |
| 23:19 | Patrons | |
| 23:19 | Searching | |
| 23:19 | Tools | |
| 23:19 | joetho | Hmmm. |
| 23:20 | ftherese | there is a setting at the bottom of the page |
| 23:20 | opaclanguagesdisplay | |
| 23:20 | which is on | |
| 23:20 | joetho | that is the only syspref I am aware of that might help |
| 23:20 | ftherese | and means that users can modify the language of OPAC |
| 23:21 | but opac is not the problem here I don't think | |
| 23:25 | ok... I figured it out | |
| 23:25 | my browser had english defined as its default language, and that was overriding the french language setting | |
| 23:26 | I think you ought to be able to change the display language without having to change your brower setting though | |
| 23:26 | I am also looking for a Z39 server for french books | |
| 23:27 | specifically religious ones | |
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| 23:32 | nengard | ftherese you might want to document your problems and the way you solved it in a bug report so that maybe someone can make it so that that doesn't happen to others |
| 23:33 | I've never heard of such a thing happening before - but it might happen again | |
| 23:33 | ftherese | ok... so do you know anything about the Z39 servers? |
| 23:35 | joetho | yes, but not in french |
| 23:35 | ftherese | do you know what you need to authenticate with the zcat.oclc.com server? |
| 23:35 | joetho | I think you can find z39 servers in france that might be very helpful to you |
| 23:36 | hmmm | |
| 23:36 | actually, that server is on a list of servers I need to set up | |
| 23:36 | ftherese | I am checking the MarcEdit Z39 client |
| 23:36 | joetho | for our installation here |
| 23:37 | ftherese | and it has a listing for the zcat.oclc.org database OLUCWorldCat port 210 |
| 23:37 | but it doesn't work for some reason | |
| 23:37 | and I am wondering if you need a username and password | |
| 23:38 | Nate left #koha | |
| 23:39 | joetho | I doubt if you need a username:pw |
| 23:39 | whoops | |
| 23:39 | username and password | |
| 23:40 | ftherese | I get this error |
| 23:40 | zcat.oclc.org:210 rejected our init request | |
| 23:41 | joetho | do any of your other targets work? |
| 23:42 | ftherese | yeah library of congress and the Oregon State University |
| 23:42 | joetho | Hmmm. |
| 23:43 | the name of the db is OLUCWorldCat ? | |
| 23:46 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_out | |
| 23:46 | ftherese | yeah |
| 23:46 | I am wondering if this is the problem: http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]-July/002484.html | |
| 23:46 | if it is, I am stuck because I can't do anything about the charset in MarcEdit | |
| 23:47 | there is a receive unicode setting, but it doesn't do anything helpful | |
| 23:48 | joetho | i think we may have the wrong database name |
| 23:48 | ftherese | ok |
| 23:53 | richard is now known as rich-away | |
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| 23:57 | ftherese | looks like you need a user name and password |
| 23:57 | http://www.oclc.org/support/do[…]950/config_guide/ |
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