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| 01:14 | ricardo | chris: Are you here? |
| 01:28 | @later tell chris Hi Chris! :) I sent you an e-mail with the updated (and likely final) Portuguese translations of OPAC and STAFF. Please, read it. Thanks! | |
| 01:28 | munin | ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:28 | ricardo | @later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri! :) I CCed you the e-mail that I sent Chris with the updated (and likely final) Portuguese translations of OPAC and STAFF. Please, read it. Thanks! |
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| 02:12 | ricardo | Hi again... Hi Galen! |
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| 02:15 | ricardo | Way past my bed time. I have to go to bed now. Take care! :) |
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| 03:10 | thd | brendon is that you or your ghost? |
| 03:10 | brendan is that you or your ghost? | |
| 03:12 | brendan | that is me |
| 03:12 | hi thd | |
| 03:12 | thd | hello brendan |
| 03:12 | have I come across harshly about the ballot on the mailing list? | |
| 03:13 | brendan | not harshly -- just long winded |
| 03:14 | thd | brendan: Do some people think that long winded and harsh are the same? |
| 03:14 | brendan | it's tough -- so much emotion in the issue |
| 03:14 | thd | or similar |
| 03:14 | ? | |
| 03:14 | brendan | I don't know if harsh = long winded |
| 03:14 | not in my mind | |
| 03:15 | I've been overwhelmed by all you've written | |
| 03:16 | and honestly haven't even opened the last two emails that you sent earlier today | |
| 03:16 | I will get to them -- just needed a moment before I read more | |
| 03:16 | thd | brendan: the last one about the ballot was the only good one |
| 03:16 | brendan | brb |
| 03:18 | back | |
| 03:18 | ok will have to read that one | |
| 03:19 | I've agreed with the ballot issues -- | |
| 03:19 | thd | brendan: agreed about what aspect? |
| 03:20 | brendan | that would should not pigeon-hole ourselves into forming a foundation now -- |
| 03:20 | stewardship should be first (or some sensible holder for domain and name of koha) | |
| 03:22 | thd | brendan: chris had noticed that only new people to Koha had voted for "independent foundation now" |
| 03:23 | which raised speculation that they did not know how much work that would involve | |
| 03:24 | brendan: yet I was last asking for fairness to not take away that option after first offering it. | |
| 03:26 | brendan: did I appear to be disrespectful of nengard and her charge by being long winded or in what I wrote? | |
| 03:29 | brendan | reading back through them now |
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| 03:31 | Amit | hi chris, brendan, richard |
| 03:31 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:31 | thd | good morning Amit |
| 03:31 | brendan | Amit good evening |
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| 03:35 | brendan | thd - do you feel that you were disrespectful of nengard? |
| 03:35 | Amit | hi thd |
| 03:36 | thd | brendan: no I do not but feelings are not important if someone else has felt affected differently |
| 03:36 | brendan: no I do not but my feelings are not important if someone else has felt affected differently | |
| 03:37 | brendan: I also think that I apologised once in case I may have seemed harsh | |
| 03:37 | brendan | I would let it settle for a day |
| 03:38 | time for everyone to read through your messages | |
| 03:38 | thd | brendan: I am quite certain they mostly go unread beyond the first few lines |
| 03:38 | brendan: responses were often to only the first few lines | |
| 03:39 | ... which often missed the key point | |
| 03:39 | brendan | *nods* |
| 03:41 | thd | brendan: I actually had the same sentiment as most people of wanting less discussion |
| 03:42 | brendan: I was willing to work like crazy to give the less discussion options the best chance | |
| 03:42 | ... and a fair chance | |
| 03:43 | most suggestions I read on IRC were about rigging the ballot to ensure that the less discussion options were chosen | |
| 03:44 | brendan | As far as nengard being disrespected - I don't know if she was or not -- I do know that she wants what's best and wants the ballot to be out that will best help koha |
| 03:45 | thd | Yes, I think her first choice was to rig the ballot for the best an actually that is a very defensible position |
| 03:45 | brendan | ah thd -- I gotta run for a little bit -- my wife just got home... cya in a bit |
| 03:45 | thd | Ok |
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| 03:56 | thd | rach: are you there? |
| 03:57 | rach: you have not voted on wiki-relicensing | |
| 03:59 | rach: maybe you also have multiple votes on wiki-relicensing | |
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| 06:04 | kf | morning #koha |
| 06:05 | nicomo | hi kf and #koha |
| 06:06 | kf | good morning nicomo |
| 06:07 | Ropuch | Morning |
| 06:07 | Hi kf, hello nicomo | |
| 06:11 | kf | good morning Ropuch |
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| 06:28 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 06:30 | Ropuch | Morning hdl_laptop |
| 06:30 | hdl_laptop | hi Ropuch |
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| 06:42 | kf | is there an easy way to change messaging_preferences after import? I looked at the sql tables, but it seems rather complicated |
| 06:43 | morning hdl_laptop | |
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| 07:11 | Amit | heya kf, nicomo |
| 07:11 | nicomo | hi Amit |
| 07:12 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 09:39 | Amit | hi galen, ricardo |
| 09:39 | ricardo | Good morning Amit ! |
| 09:39 | gmcharlt | hi Amit (and goodbye for moment, about to board airplane) |
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| 09:42 | * chris | finally makes it back to wellington |
| 09:42 | chris | now to push up some translations |
| 09:43 | hdl_laptop | oh... It is late. |
| 09:43 | hi chris. | |
| 09:44 | I thought you would finally not make it | |
| 09:44 | ricardo | Good morning chris & Henri! :) |
| 09:45 | Amit | hi hdl |
| 09:45 | chris | yeah i will probably need to do some tomorrow morning im afraid hdl :() |
| 09:46 | ricardo | "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams, English humorist & science fiction novelist (1952 - 2001) |
| 09:46 | ;-) | |
| 09:48 | chris | :) |
| 09:48 | i didnt expect the hotel to have such useless internet :( and when i was at the conference everyone wanted to talk | |
| 09:48 | which was good, lots of interest in koha, but bad, that i got nothing done | |
| 09:48 | hdl_laptop: the french po file works fine | |
| 09:49 | hdl_laptop | chris will send a message to announce delay |
| 09:50 | chris | make sure you say it was my fault |
| 09:50 | :) | |
| 09:51 | hdl_laptop | No. |
| 09:51 | Some bugs are still quite disturbing the process : | |
| 09:51 | shelf browsing and moresearches + the one on reserves | |
| 09:51 | Amit | hi chris |
| 09:53 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: For my part, I'll finish testing one of the bugs I submitted / followed up and closing it |
| 09:53 | Amit | hdl_laptop: Duplicate insertion in syspref.sql in maintenance branch koha |
| 09:53 | hdl_laptop | ok ricardo. |
| 09:53 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: :) |
| 09:53 | chris | ahh ok |
| 09:54 | hdl_laptop | Amit : line pls ? |
| 09:54 | ricardo | chris: If you get any problem with the PO file I sent you "yesterday", feel free to bug me |
| 09:54 | s/PO file/PO files | |
| 09:54 | hdl_laptop | ricardo: patch applied for NoZebra. |
| 09:55 | Amit | hdl: line no 32 |
| 09:55 | ricardo | hdl_laptop: Very cool. Thank you very much! :) |
| 09:55 | Amit | i have already send a patch http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]tober/004718.html |
| 09:58 | hdl_laptop: line number 32 | |
| 09:59 | chris | will do ricardo :) |
| 09:59 | just about to test now | |
| 10:00 | hdl_laptop | ok thanks. |
| 10:02 | ricardo | chris: Thanks :) |
| 10:03 | chris | works fine |
| 10:03 | ricardo | chris: Cool, thanks |
| 10:03 | chris | ok, pushed up |
| 10:04 | and now i think i will get some sleep, french, italian, and portuguese updated | |
| 10:04 | tomorrow i have to set up albanian (wont make it for 3.0.4 obviously) | |
| 10:04 | ricardo | chris: Many thanks. Sleep well! :) |
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| 11:17 | Bar | Hello > I am having a nightmare with LDAP authentication. My site keeps updating the branchcode everytime a user logs in even though <update> is set to 0 |
| 11:17 | Can anyone help? | |
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| 11:26 | hdl_laptop | Bar: have you tried the latest Auth_with_ldap file ? Or is it an old version ? |
| 11:26 | if ($borrowernumber) { | |
| 11:26 | if ($config{update}) { # A1, B1 | |
| 11:26 | my $c2 = &update_local($local_userid,$password,$borrowernumber,\%borrower) || ''; | |
| 11:26 | ($cardnumber eq $c2) or warn "update_local returned cardnumber '$c2' instead of '$cardnumber'"; | |
| 11:26 | } else { # C1, D1 | |
| 11:26 | # maybe update just the password? | |
| 11:26 | } | |
| 11:26 | } elsif ($config{replicate}) { # A2, C2 | |
| 11:26 | $borrowernumber = AddMember(%borrower) or die "AddMember failed"; | |
| 11:26 | } else { | |
| 11:26 | return 0; # B2, D2 | |
| 11:26 | latest one has that kind of things. | |
| 11:26 | Amit | hi jdavidb |
| 11:27 | jdavidb | Hi, Amit! :) |
| 11:27 | Amit | hdl_laptop: I m right |
| 11:27 | hdl_laptop | hi jdavidb |
| 11:27 | jdavidb | Howdy, hdl. :) How are things? |
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| 11:38 | Bar | Not sure....I will take a look....apart from the code you posted, is there any way to check the version of the Auth_with_ldap file ? |
| 11:42 | hdl_laptop | jdavidb: good how are you ? |
| 11:42 | Bar: git log C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm | |
| 11:42 | jdavidb | Doing well. :) It's a lovely, cool fall morning here. |
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| 11:45 | hdl_laptop | Bar: on a 3.0.x install you should have : d705a0394f27f8d6727c27a24408a65f5686c31a |
| 11:49 | Bar | fatal: Not a git repository |
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| 11:53 | jdavidb | Good morning, nengard! :) |
| 11:53 | nengard | morning! |
| 11:53 | hdl_laptop | Bar you are installing in standard mode ? |
| 11:53 | hi nengard | |
| 11:55 | Bar | hdl_laptop> To be honest, I am not sure what that means! We have the system in place for about 6 months, Live and working well. It's only recently that we noticed this problem |
| 11:56 | I am not sure if it has always been there, I would say it has | |
| 11:57 | hdl_laptop | Bar: /me always thinks he's talking to geeks on irc ;) |
| 11:58 | latest version of Auth_with_ldap.pm should fix your problem | |
| 11:58 | Bar | sorry!! I am trying me best to get to that status though! |
| 11:58 | Cool, can I just grab that, on it's own from somewhere? | |
| 11:59 | hdl_laptop | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]554a2148;hb=3.0.x |
| 11:59 | here | |
| 11:59 | Bar | Nice! I will let you know how it goes. |
| 11:59 | Amit | hi nengard |
| 12:00 | chris_n | howdy nengard |
| 12:00 | nengard | hi all |
| 12:01 | jwagner | Good morning all. |
| 12:04 | kf | jwagner: good morning! |
| 12:04 | nengard: good morning! (should start reading from top) | |
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| 12:05 | chris_n | @coffee |
| 12:05 | munin | chris_n: downloading the Perl source |
| 12:06 | * chris_n | thinks we might write a plugin for munin to make coffee in the morning (local time of course) |
| 12:06 | jdavidb | Ooo...that's a good idea, chris_n. |
| 12:07 | Think we could coax in a cappuccino and hot chocolate add-on, too? | |
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| 12:07 | chris_n | or tea according to one's taste |
| 12:07 | jdavidb: excellent idea | |
| 12:07 | kf | nengard, jwagner: do you have some time to discuss holds management with me? Im not sure how to handle things at our library |
| 12:07 | jwagner | Definitely add tea to the specs |
| 12:08 | nengard | sure |
| 12:08 | jwagner | kf, I can try, not sure I'm the best person. |
| 12:08 | nengard | kf, i'm up for trying too - and if you have suggestions on how i can write the manual on it better - i'm up for that too |
| 12:09 | kf | ok |
| 12:09 | first I will try to explain the situation | |
| 12:09 | the library has closed stacks, so I have areas where the user cant go | |
| 12:10 | the items should be not on loan but holdable | |
| 12:10 | I have areas with free access too | |
| 12:10 | and I have areas in closed stacks with item not for loan, but only for use in reading room | |
| 12:11 | and on top of that: the library works with rfid and a self checkout system that is not as intelligent as a librarian at the desk would be | |
| 12:11 | and thank you in advance for your time! | |
| 12:12 | jwagner | kf, not sure what the question is. Do you allow on-shelf holds? |
| 12:13 | kf | we went with allow-on-shelf-holds on |
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| 12:16 | jwagner | So the materials in your closed stacks can be placed on hold. You should then be able to pull those items and check them out, correct? |
| 12:18 | kf | yes this part works fine |
| 12:18 | but I dont understand how holds in free areas will work | |
| 12:18 | or are supposed to work | |
| 12:19 | jwagner | They should work the same way -- someone places an on-shelf hold, it shows up on the holds to pull list, your staff get it from the shelves and trigger the hold. |
| 12:19 | kf | after a hold is placed - can another patron check the items out? |
| 12:20 | after a title level hold is placed, can another item be checked out? | |
| 12:20 | what happens when the patron pulls the book and its not pulled? | |
| 12:20 | jwagner | There is a syspref AllowHoldPolicyOverride that determines whether your staff are allowed to ignore the waiting hold on the item and check it out to another person. |
| 12:20 | kf | self check machine :( |
| 12:20 | but normally it should not be possible for another patron to take the item? | |
| 12:20 | after a hold is placed? | |
| 12:21 | I think it should not be possible to check out a book where another patron placed a hold on | |
| 12:22 | jwagner | There's a difference between "hold is placed" and "hold is triggered" -- if a hold is triggered (by checking the item in), it shouldn't allow anyone else to check it out except the person with the hold. |
| 12:22 | kf | and what influence has the build_holds_queue? for testing we have it runing every hour, but I think other libraries only twice a day? |
| 12:23 | ok, but this needs check in | |
| 12:23 | so the patron has no guarantee that the book he placed a hold on will still be there, when he comes to get it | |
| 12:23 | the library wanted to pull the items in the evening | |
| 12:23 | 1/day | |
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| 12:24 | kf | I feel like I miss something important |
| 12:24 | :( | |
| 12:26 | jwagner | It's getting a little out of my level of understanding, too. nengard? What's a "standard" timing for the reports? |
| 12:26 | kf | the question is, does the cron job has an effect on the hold? |
| 12:26 | nengard | oops - sorry - got caught up fighting with web design - reading back now |
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| 12:27 | kf | on the status or something? or is it just building the list |
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| 12:28 | nengard | kf, okay i'm caught up and I think becuase of the self checkout machine you're going to have an issue |
| 12:28 | kf | jwagner: how are holds working in your libraries? are there libraries using allowonshelfholds on? |
| 12:29 | nengard | also - many libraries that i talk to do not allow on shelf holds |
| 12:29 | kf | nengard: I had a feeling it might be a problem :( |
| 12:29 | nengard | because i means too much work to keep up with it |
| 12:29 | kf | yes, we fear that too |
| 12:29 | nengard | as a patron I love when libraries allow me to place on shelf holds |
| 12:29 | kf | but the only option I see for closed stacks is to loan all items to a staff user |
| 12:29 | nengard | this sounds like something that we might need someone to develop an improvmeent for |
| 12:29 | kf | as an alternative to onshelfholds on |
| 12:30 | problem: I need a work around now, because the library is in production | |
| 12:30 | nengard | hmmm |
| 12:30 | kf | and we have not the resources for development or sponsoring right now |
| 12:30 | I think it wold help if allowonshelfholds would be more granular | |
| 12:31 | per library or better location / collection / item type | |
| 12:31 | nengard | i hate to say it - but this is a function that I know has already been written - but not for Koha 3.0 or 3.2 - it's in LEK |
| 12:31 | owen | Hi all |
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| 12:31 | nengard | hiya owen |
| 12:31 | do you have any tips for kf? | |
| 12:32 | jwagner | Some of our libraries allow on-shelf holds, and some don't. We've been working with a lot of development on holds and circ rules, but this isn't one of them. It sounds like it could be fixed by either checking the collection to a staff user as Nicole suggests or adding a setting to the location about whether on-shelf holds allowed for this location. |
| 12:32 | kf | hi owen |
| 12:32 | nengard | what kf needs is call slip functionality - to allow for call slips on closed stacks but not holds on onshelf items |
| 12:32 | these are 2 diff things | |
| 12:33 | it's what we did in the seminary library i worked in | |
| 12:33 | * chris_n | greets owen |
| 12:33 | paul_p | 'morning nengard, chris_n & owen |
| 12:33 | chris_n | g'morning paul_p |
| 12:34 | jwagner | Mumble many years ago, I did some research as a student in Library of Congress -- to request items from the stacks I had to fill out request slips & give them to staff. That's what you're meaning by call slip functionality? |
| 12:34 | kf | nengard: call slip functionality - will note that :) only know it as closed stacks request |
| 12:34 | nengard | same thing :) |
| 12:34 | kf | question is: how to do it with koha |
| 12:35 | nengard | yes jwagner - except in an automated form |
| 12:35 | owen | I had an early library job as the flunkie who pulls books from the stacks with those call slips |
| 12:35 | nengard | kf - unfortunately I have no work around for you - no way I can think to do it with your system the way it is now :( |
| 12:35 | kf | ok, what you say is: allowonshelfholds will allow users to check out books at the self check, even if there is a hold on them from another user |
| 12:36 | do you think it would work when we check out everything to a staff user? | |
| 12:36 | and set allowonshelfholds to off? | |
| 12:36 | jwagner | If there is a _triggered_ hold, your self-check system should not allow that to be checked out. Maybe an update to the SIP would fix that problem. |
| 12:37 | kf | but the hold only get triggered when the item is checked in first, as I understand it |
| 12:37 | jwagner | Correct, so staff may have to run the holds to pull report more frequently and checkin/trigger the holds. |
| 12:37 | kf | we did some tests with ReservesNeedReturns - but I still dont get what this is supposed to do |
| 12:38 | at first glance I thought it would trigger the hodls without checking them in | |
| 12:38 | nengard | i'm not sure how checking items out to a staff member would make a difference |
| 12:38 | how would you do that? | |
| 12:39 | kf | not sure, perhaps using the offline circ and a barcode list to check them out in batch |
| 12:39 | once they are checked out, we could set allowonshelfholds back to off and closed stack items could be placed on hold | |
| 12:40 | would need another report - check for items with item type x with placed holds | |
| 12:40 | nengard | i guess what i meant was how would checking items out to the staff help with the closed stacks/call slip situation |
| 12:40 | kf | I think this could work... but not sure about it |
| 12:41 | check them out to a "closed stacks staff member" to make them holdable | |
| 12:42 | nengard: do you know how this works in LEK? perhaps we can steal some ideas from it | |
| 12:42 | nengard | i just know it's a function in it - not how it works |
| 12:42 | sorry | |
| 12:43 | http://academic-staff.demo.koh[…]rculation-home.pl | |
| 12:43 | u/p liblime/liblime | |
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| 12:45 | kf | nengard: but thx, I did not know that its also called a call slip |
| 12:45 | so didnt even know what to ask and look for :) | |
| 12:45 | nengard | i'm sure it's called diff things in diff libraries ;) |
| 12:46 | owen | Hmmm... LibLime could really use someone to go over their templates and clean them up for them. |
| 12:46 | jwagner | I think long term the best fix might be setting on-shelf hold ability by location. But a full "call slip" module would probably have a lot of uses too. |
| 12:46 | kf | found it - its on circulation page above holds queue |
| 12:46 | by location would be graet, because no need for different libraries | |
| 12:46 | jdavidb | owen, isn't that something you used to do a lot of? template cleanup and stuff? |
| 12:47 | kf | (found it refers to LEK...) |
| 12:47 | owen | jdavidb: Yeah, for some reason the LEK templates just aren't up to the standard set by the open source version of Koha. Strange. |
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| 12:48 | jdavidb | Since they don't have your brilliance liberally seeded in there, owen, this comes as no particular surprise to me... |
| 12:49 | owen | It's not brilliance, it's just many hands making light work |
| 12:49 | * kf | nods |
| 12:50 | kf | owen: I think you really do great work |
| 12:50 | jdavidb | yah, but once the filename ends in .tmpl, yours is especially skilled, sir. Thanks for all you do. |
| 12:53 | owen | Hey, it beats sitting at home sorting Legos into different boxes according to color. |
| 12:55 | * nengard | giggling at owen |
| 12:57 | kf | jwagner, nengard: thx a lot for your insight. I will try with an enhancement request and perhaps we will have to go with checking out closed stacks to an virtual user |
| 12:58 | hdl_laptop | kf: for 3.0.x, there are things that are comming regarding reserves allowed. |
| 12:58 | by branch itemtype and categorycode | |
| 12:58 | sorry | |
| 12:58 | kf | I know you can limit them for itemtype/borrower category |
| 12:59 | hdl_laptop | master |
| 12:59 | kf | yes, but only the maximum number of requests per user |
| 12:59 | my problem is item status and requestability | |
| 12:59 | hdl_laptop | oh |
| 12:59 | will read logs more carefully then | |
| 13:00 | kf | which is something that LEK seems possible of - but dont found out where its configured there... hm. |
| 13:00 | hdl_laptop: no - im glad you mentioned this - its just that I peeked at your test installation after the last IRC meeting | |
| 13:00 | hdl_laptop: great new features for circ matrix! | |
| 13:01 | a possibility to differentiate between items in closed stacks and items on shelf - closed stacks holdable - on shelf not holdable | |
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| 13:09 | jdavidb | nahuel: ping? |
| 13:09 | nahuel | pong |
| 13:09 | jdavidb | your bug 3710 is something I'm working on lately; I've got a first-version of it about ready to release, and some enhancements in mind. |
| 13:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3710 enhancement, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, NEW, New script for recent acquisitions |
| 13:10 | jdavidb | Do you already have a solution in mind, or want to hang tight for mine? I'll be happy to take the ticket up. |
| 13:10 | nahuel | I've done it, based on an hdl script |
| 13:11 | jdavidb | :) OK. I may think up some enhancements, based on what our customers are clamoring for. |
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| 13:13 | nahuel | hehe |
| 13:13 | perhaps it needs some improvments | |
| 13:13 | It do too much sql queries as I like. | |
| 13:14 | jdavidb | Mine is based on bib add date, and allows dropping items of given types. Right now, it's a toggle to show up on the front OPAC page, but I'm also working on a link on the banner, or the shelf-browser thing on the front page. |
| 13:14 | Only does one SQL query. | |
| 13:15 | hdl_laptop | jdavidb: some of our customers prefers to rely on items timestamp. |
| 13:15 | But you might want to see that | |
| 13:15 | jdavidb | I thought about a toggle to do that, too, but hadn't quite gotten there, as none of our requestors was specifically looking for that. |
| 13:16 | hdl_laptop | nahuel will commit his work on git.biblibre.com |
| 13:16 | jdavidb | All controlled in sysprefs, of course. :) |
| 13:16 | hdl_laptop | in a specific branch |
| 13:16 | bug3710 | |
| 13:16 | so you'll be able to take and test | |
| 13:17 | jdavidb | Thanks! Going to send it out to head soon? I'd love to collaborate with y'all on it, so that one really nice answer gets sent out. |
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| 13:55 | jwagner | owen, online? |
| 13:55 | owen | Yes |
| 13:56 | jwagner | Any ideas on this one? We're getting occasional search errors in the OPAC, referring to opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js:38 and complaining that 'data' is null or not an object. |
| 13:57 | * nengard | having a greater appreciation for owen as I fight with css |
| 13:58 | owen | jquery.highlight-3.js is the jquery plugin for highlighting search terms |
| 13:58 | Since your errors are occasional, my guess is that something about the contents of the search results page is causing problems | |
| 13:59 | Is there anything about the pages with errors that stands out as a possible commonality? | |
| 14:00 | jwagner | Not that I can see, but I'm not sure what I'd be looking for. I tried turning off the OpacHighlightedWords syspref but the error still showed up. What should I look for? |
| 14:01 | owen | jwagner: Even with no search term highlighting you got the error? |
| 14:01 | kf | OpacHighlightedWords does nothing, there is a bug for it |
| 14:01 | jwagner | owen, correct. |
| 14:02 | owen | jwagner: Given what kf says, I take it you get search term highlighting either way? |
| 14:02 | kf | bug 3589 |
| 14:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3589 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, OpacHighlightedWords sys pref does nothing |
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| 14:03 | kf | i know that there is a mistake in term highlighting connected to our 880 display - I hope I can send a patch for that soon, but it should not lead to an error, its just highlighting to much atm |
| 14:05 | jwagner | owen, looking at the OPAC page source with firebug I see several complaints about start and end tags -- they seem to be related to the enhanced content (Syndetics in this case). Any relevance? |
| 14:05 | owen | jwagner: It's possible I suppose. |
| 14:06 | The term highlighting plugin has to parse the data on the page in order to highlight...it's possible that it's choking on bad markup I guess | |
| 14:06 | Does the problem go away if you turn off Syndetics content? | |
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| 14:08 | jwagner | Just tried that -- no, problem is still there. |
| 14:08 | So while there could be some cleanup on the enhanced content HTML, that doesn't seem to be the problem. | |
| 14:10 | ricardo | Uh-oh... |
| 14:10 | [10498.525663] Out of memory: kill process 3671 (apache2) score 413646 or a child | |
| 14:10 | [10498.525726] Killed process 4730 (opac-detail.pl) | |
| 14:10 | [10892.806203] Out of memory: kill process 3671 (apache2) score 407414 or a child | |
| 14:10 | [10892.806264] Killed process 4735 (500.pl) | |
| 14:11 | Debugging time :( | |
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| 14:15 | owen | jwagner: Any other thoughts about what might be different for the pages which are showing the error? |
| 14:16 | jwagner | Just tried an experiment -- in opac-results.tmpl I commented out the call to <script type="text/javascript" src="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="themelang" -->/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js"></script> |
| 14:16 | With that removed, the error goes away. But I don't know the implications of removing that. | |
| 14:17 | owen | If you remove that you get no search term highlighting |
| 14:18 | jwagner | But according to kf, the highlighting isn't working now anyway. Any other implications? |
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| 14:22 | jwagner | I looked on another system (updated Koha), and the jquery.highlight-3.js script is datestamped 2009-09-23. Maybe something changed in that version? |
| 14:23 | Bar | hdl_laptop: are you around? I updated the Auth_with_ldap.pm file to the new one and now no user can login!! The following error is appearing in the error_log: |
| 14:24 | LDAP Auth rejected : invalid password for user 'usertest'. LDAP error #16: LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE, referer: | |
| 14:24 | changing back to the old pm file restores connectivity but the update problem remains | |
| 14:24 | owen | jwagner: It's not that search term highlighting isn't working, it's that the preference to turn it on and off isn't working |
| 14:24 | It works fine for me without errors | |
| 14:25 | jwagner | Hmmmm..... |
| 14:28 | owen | jwagner: Would you like me to do a test? Do 'view-source' on the search results page and send me the HTML. |
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| 14:31 | jwagner | owen, it's on the way. |
| 14:47 | Looking at a system which is a somewhat earlier version of Koha, at 3.01.00.037 there is a check for OpacHighlightedWords in C4/Search.pm. That check is missing by Koha version 3.01.00.061. | |
| 14:49 | owen | I think that's correct...because the term highlighting used to happen in the script, and now it's handled by the jquery plugin. |
| 14:49 | jwagner | Darn. Another good theory shot down.... |
| 14:50 | owen | It sounds like the check for OpacHighlightedWords just never got moved to the template |
| 14:51 | jwagner: I'm trying the HTML you sent me, and the first thing I'm wondering is if you get the same error without the site-specific customizations (opacheader, opacuserjs, etc) | |
| 14:54 | jwagner | In the general vicinity of lines 284-301? Yes. There are some problems with what they want to use in those blocks. However, I don't think they're related to the jquery error -- we get the same error on a different system. |
| 14:55 | owen | Okay, I just wanted to make sure you've tried eliminating those variables |
| 14:57 | jwagner: Other search results pages from that same install don't show the error? | |
| 14:57 | chris_n | gmcharlt: tnx for pushing that |
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| 14:59 | jwagner | owen, not sure what you mean. It's intermittent for most systems. I can always provoke the error by doing a particular set of steps in a development branch we're working with, so that's how I've been testing. |
| 15:00 | owen | One key to finding the problem might be to find out what makes it intermittent: what is different on the pages with the error compared to the pages which don't have the error. |
| 15:00 | If two search results screen from the same system do and do not have the error, then you've got a good place to start looking | |
| 15:06 | jwagner | AHA! I did a diff between the page I sent you and the same search that doesn't get the error. The page giving the error has a space in front of the search term, like var query_desc = " seasons"; |
| 15:06 | If I manually do a search for space seasons, it provokes the error. | |
| 15:07 | owen | Yup, I get the same on my install (except Firefox won't even process the script and show me an error--it just crashes) |
| 15:07 | jwagner | There are a bunch of other differences that I'll have to look at, but that seems to be the most likely culprit. |
| 15:10 | So somewhere there needs to be a check for leading (and trailing?) spaces on a search term. Where's the best place for that? opac-search.pl? | |
| 15:11 | owen | Nope, it's all jquery--all client-side. So the template. |
| 15:11 | q_array = query_desc.split(" "); | |
| 15:12 | Actually, just above that | |
| 15:13 | Line 164 of opac-results.tmpl | |
| 15:13 | var query_desc = "<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="query_desc" ESCAPE="JS"-->"; | |
| 15:13 | So maybe trimming it in opac-search.pl would work | |
| 15:14 | I guess it could go either way, but doing so in the script would probably be more efficient | |
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| 15:35 | owen | Anyone here done a dev install on Ubuntu? |
| 15:36 | jdavidb | Once, Owen. |
| 15:36 | jwagner | owen, I think I've found the right place in opac-search.pl, and added a trim for leading & trailing spaces. Seems to fix the problem. I'll send a patch. Thanks for troubleshooting! |
| 15:37 | owen | jdavidb: I'm wondering if I should be looking more at the Ubuntu install guide (http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ide_ubuntu_hardy) or INSTALL.debian |
| 15:37 | kf | owen: yes |
| 15:37 | owen | jwagner: You bet. I'm glad we tracked it down. It was just a fluke that no one had noticed that problem before. |
| 15:38 | jdavidb | I was doing an install on Easy Peasy, which is Hardy-on-a-diet. I used the hardy installl guide. |
| 15:38 | owen | kf: yes to which? |
| 15:38 | jdavidb | I don't recall any big trouble with it. |
| 15:38 | kf | kf: dev install on ubuntu - sorry |
| 15:39 | kf = owen (will never learn...) | |
| 15:39 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 15:39 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.6�C (8:36 AM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas until 11 am PDT this morning... |
| 15:41 | kf | owen: I think I used more than one manual, but it was not so difficult |
| 15:42 | owen | For all my experience with Koha, I'm a newbie at installing. |
| 15:42 | The Ubuntu guide refers specifically to installing from the tarball, but those instructions should work just the same if I've cloned a git repo? | |
| 15:43 | jdavidb | Installation isn't hard, owen. Once you've done it a couple of times, you can knock 'em out in minutes. |
| 15:43 | I used the debian method when I got to that part...pretty much the same, by that time. | |
| 15:44 | owen | One thing I noticed in the Debian guide: Test your SAX Parser and correct where necessary |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | every time I've installed on ubuntu, I've used install.debian |
| 15:44 | jdavidb | I usually have to do that, on new hardware. Installing all the packages mungs up the SAX parser. |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | yes, I have the same experience, jdavidb |
| 15:44 | owen | When I "$ misc/sax_parser_print.pl " I get "Looks bad, check INSTALL.*" |
| 15:46 | jwagner | owen, bug 3711 FYI. |
| 15:46 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC |
| 15:58 | owen | Hmm... Can't seem to install DBD::mysql |
| 15:58 | "Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state" | |
| 15:58 | "Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82." | |
| 15:59 | jdavidb | Under older versions, I recall having to do force install DBD:mysql, I think. |
| 16:00 | owen | "'/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site' returned status 512, won't make |
| 16:00 | Running make test" | |
| 16:04 | Any suggestions? | |
| 16:05 | Colin | owen: the mysql_config error looks like it cant find the mysql libraries |
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| 16:06 | ricardo_laptop | Hi all |
| 16:06 | Very weird git problem: I'm NOT getting a commit of a file that's been commited | |
| 16:07 | specifically | |
| 16:07 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]56fd18eb;hb=3.0.x | |
| 16:07 | (I'm missing the commit from Galen Charlton, dated 2009-0-26 for that 3.0.x branch) | |
| 16:07 | The commit does appear for me in the MASTER branch | |
| 16:08 | Any ideas / comments / further input that I must provide to help troubleshoot this? :-S | |
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| 16:22 | owen | Okay, so "Cannot find the file 'mysql_config'! Your execution PATH doesn't seem not contain the path to mysql_config" |
| 16:22 | How can I correct it? | |
| 16:23 | What and where is "mysql_config"? | |
| 16:25 | ricardo_laptop | owen: Could it be the "my.cnf" file ? |
| 16:25 | kf | owen: hm, did not get this error during my install - just installed mysql and created database as explained in the manual |
| 16:26 | owen: changed sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf for utf8 | |
| 16:26 | ricardo_laptop | (Back to my problem... The same commit from Galen Charlton is missing from the repo.or.cz Koha git mirror : |
| 16:26 | http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git?a[…]=refs/heads/3.0.x | |
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| 16:27 | ricardo_laptop | Never mind this last sentence... Was seeing the wrong file |
| 16:29 | kf | ok, time to leave work - bye #koha :) |
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| 16:30 | Colin | owen how did you install mysql and were the -devel files installed? |
| 16:33 | ricardo_laptop | @later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri. Could you please cherry-pick this commit from Galen Charlton (dated 2009-05-26) for the "unimarc_field_128a.tmpl" file to the 3.0.x branch - http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]dff390af7bc8ca84c ? |
| 16:33 | munin | ricardo_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:33 | hdl_laptop | ricardo_laptop: will do right now |
| 16:33 | ricardo_laptop | hdl_laptop: Hi! Thanks a lot :) I think I have another one similar... Will check it right now |
| 16:35 | (Locating "acqui-search-result.tmpl" file...) | |
| 16:36 | hdl_laptop | 94abcf6d9879df156cfe31e5630bb389130cdd87 ? |
| 16:38 | going out for "shopping" now. | |
| 16:38 | will read the logs | |
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| 16:40 | hdl_laptop | ricardo_laptop: pushed for unimarc_field_128a.tmpl |
| 16:41 | ricardo_laptop | hdl_laptop: Actually, in the case of "aqui-search-tmpl", it's not a case of a missing "cherry pick". A small patch for "acqui-search-tmpl" would be necessary... |
| 16:41 | hdl_laptop: I think there's a missing "</div>" for the "aqui-search-result.tmpl" file ... Would have to study it further | |
| 16:41 | hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for pushing unimarc_field_128a.tmpl :) | |
| 16:42 | ( I found these problems by finding "too confused to show details" in the output of "./install-code.pl pt-PT" ) | |
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| 16:49 | ColinC | Owen: mysql_config is a binary that can be used to see how the mysql libraries were compiled and the options to pass the compiler and linker when building a binary |
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| 17:02 | ricardo_laptop | Gotta go. See ya! |
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| 17:20 | * nengard | lunching |
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| 18:05 | cait | good evening #koha |
| 18:06 | ricardo | Good evening cait! |
| 18:07 | cait | hi ricardo |
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| 18:16 | * chris_n | greets cait |
| 18:16 | jdavidb | Good evening, cait. :) |
| 18:19 | cait | hi chris_n and jdavidb |
| 18:21 | brendan | @seen chris |
| 18:21 | munin | brendan: chris was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 17 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <chris> tomorrow i have to set up albanian (wont make it for 3.0.4 obviously) |
| 18:22 | chris | morning |
| 18:22 | * chris | is back in wellington and getting ready for work |
| 18:22 | owen | Hi chris |
| 18:23 | brendan | hi chris |
| 18:23 | chris_n | 'morning chris |
| 18:23 | jdavidb | Hi, chris! |
| 18:23 | brendan | @seen chris |
| 18:23 | munin | brendan: chris was last seen in #koha 40 seconds ago: * chris is back in wellington and getting ready for work |
| 18:23 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 18:23 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 12.0�C (1:59 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:23 | brendan | yeah! |
| 18:25 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:25 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 18:25 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (8:00 PM CEST on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:25 | jdavidb | @wunder 20852 |
| 18:25 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 9.8�C (2:22 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:25 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 18:25 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.0�C (11:21 AM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas until 11 am PDT this morning... |
| 18:25 | cait | its getting cold here :( |
| 18:26 | jdavidb | It's been very chilly here today. I finally had to get my coat out yesterday, first time this fall. |
| 18:26 | chris | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 18:26 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:27 | * chris_n | shakes his fist at Level 3 |
| 18:27 | joetho | @wunder topeka, ks |
| 18:27 | munin | joetho: The current temperature in Near Washburn University, Topeka, Kansas is 7.8�C (1:16 PM CDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:28 | cait | jdavidb: first cold day here too, will need gloves now for ride to work by bike |
| 18:28 | joetho | wow no sun anywhere on the planet |
| 18:28 | @wunder st tropez | |
| 18:28 | munin | joetho: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:28 | joetho | figures |
| 18:29 | jdavidb | @wunder Nassau, bahamas |
| 18:29 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in Nassau Airport, Bahamas is 32.0�C (2:00 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. |
| 18:29 | joetho | see? cloudy/ |
| 18:29 | jdavidb | @wunder cabo san lucas, MX |
| 18:29 | munin | jdavidb: The current temperature in San Jose del Cabo, Mexico is 27.0�C (11:42 AM MDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:29 | jdavidb | Dang! |
| 18:29 | joetho | give it up |
| 18:29 | @wunder anchorage, ak | |
| 18:29 | munin | joetho: The current temperature in The Spurlocks at Airport Heights, Anchorage, Alaska is 7.8�C (10:29 AM AKDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.52 in 999.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:30 | * chris_n | wonders why data centers can advertise multiple links to the backbone as a selling point and then suffer a complete outage with one router overload :-\ |
| 18:30 | joetho | @wunder honolulu, ha |
| 18:30 | munin | joetho: The current temperature in Wilhelmina Rise, Honolulu, Hawaii is 24.2�C (8:29 AM HST on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:31 | joetho | I worked with a small library network that had fiber connecting each lib, in several different towns, with a 10bT ethernet hub at the end of each fiber run |
| 18:32 | they wondered why so slow | |
| 18:32 | I wondered who designed it | |
| 18:33 | chris_n | heh |
| 18:33 | this outage is on Level 3's network... they are "supposed" to be highly reliable | |
| 18:34 | our streaming provider moved to them a month ago which was supposed to "improve" their uptime (which really is near 99.9%) | |
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| 18:34 | chris_n | but it's not when your up that really matters, its when you're down |
| 18:42 | ricardo | Going home now ppl. Take care! |
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| 18:55 | chris | ok, time to catch a bus |
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| 19:34 | chris_n | wow, it must be quitting time ;-) |
| 19:35 | cait | im still here ;) |
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| 19:38 | richard | hi |
| 19:39 | chris_n | hello richard |
| 19:41 | * owen | is ready for quitting time, but not quite there yet |
| 19:41 | chris | back |
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| 19:43 | chris_n | does anyone have an opinion on Catalyst? |
| 19:43 | the pm that is | |
| 19:47 | cait | pm? |
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| 19:48 | owen | Okay guys, I'm back to worrying about this "Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82." when trying to install DBD::mysql |
| 19:48 | I'm in the dark | |
| 19:49 | chris_n | cait: cpan module |
| 19:49 | cait | chris_n: thx! |
| 19:50 | * chris_n | looks at owen 's issue |
| 19:51 | chris_n | owen: what ver of koha? |
| 19:51 | line 82 is POD in the current version of Makefile.PL | |
| 19:51 | owen | I'm trying to do a dev install from git on Ubuntu |
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| 19:52 | owen | I'm following the instructions in INSTALL.ubuntu to install DBD::mysql |
| 19:52 | chris_n | ahh... the Makefile.PL for DBD::mysql |
| 19:52 | cait | owen: not sure how I installed it, isnt it available via apt-get? |
| 19:53 | chris_n | cait is right; owen try sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl |
| 19:54 | cait | owen: I think this should work |
| 19:55 | owen | Hm, okay, that worked fine. What do I know, I'm just reading the instructions! :) |
| 19:55 | * chris_n | will have to talk with the person who mocked up that INSTALL.ubuntu file ;-) |
| 19:56 | chris_n | owen: on debian and ubuntu it is generally preferable to use the package maintainer's version rather than the cpan version if possible |
| 19:57 | gotta run, bbl | |
| 19:57 | hdl_laptop | cait: can you announce ballot for Koha on german speaking list ? |
| 19:58 | @later tell ricardo can you announce Koha ballot for organisation on portuguese lists ? | |
| 19:58 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:59 | cait | ah sorry, did not check my work mail yet |
| 19:59 | hdl: what do I need to do, just forward or translate? | |
| 19:59 | hdl_laptop | @later tell ricardo there are two lists, koha-br and koha-pt |
| 19:59 | munin | hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:59 | hdl_laptop | cait: translate and forward, |
| 20:00 | if the list is read. | |
| 20:01 | and it seems it is (from archive ;) ) | |
| 20:01 | cait | I m not sure how many subscribers the list has, but the people I know are reading Koha and koha-devel too i think |
| 20:01 | anyway: will do it tomorrow if this is ok | |
| 20:01 | hdl_laptop | no problem ppl have until 25th October |
| 20:01 | cait | ok :) |
| 20:02 | hdl_laptop | many thx cait |
| 20:02 | cait | thank me once its done :) |
| 20:08 | hdl_laptop | owen you need to install mysql-devel in order to have mysql_config |
| 20:08 | owen | hdl_laptop: Yes, apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl worked. |
| 20:09 | hdl_laptop | coming too late, sorry |
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| 20:16 | pianohacker | hello |
| 20:16 | chris | heya pianohacker |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | hi chris |
| 20:17 | how's it going? | |
| 20:17 | cait | hi pianohacker |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | hi cait_sans_laptop |
| 20:18 | cait | in fact its the other laptop today :) |
| 20:18 | pianohacker | ha, okay. what are you up to? |
| 20:19 | cait | watching torchwood right now :) |
| 20:20 | chris | http://open-edge.info/irma-birchall |
| 20:21 | irma presenting on koha | |
| 20:21 | nicomo | hey, is Irma from Belgium? |
| 20:21 | chris | originally yes |
| 20:22 | pianohacker | nicomo: how did you guess |
| 20:22 | ?? | |
| 20:22 | chris | she translated my speech when i spoke at kohacon in paris |
| 20:22 | nicomo | pianohacker: well it's more or less written on the page |
| 20:23 | Irma has been a champion of libraries since her late teens when she set up and managed for 3 years, a community library in her district in Belgium. | |
| 20:23 | chris | :) |
| 20:23 | pianohacker | right, of course. evidently, I sustained a brain injury at the same time |
| 20:24 | nicomo | eh eh |
| 20:24 | chris | hehe |
| 20:24 | nicomo | and she's got a nice little accent in english too |
| 20:24 | chris | heh |
| 20:26 | nicomo | well, with that, I'm off to bed |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | good night |
| 20:27 | brendan | night nicomo |
| 20:27 | nicomo | bye all, have a nice day |
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| 20:27 | brendan | hey pianohacker |
| 20:27 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | hi brendan |
| 20:27 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.9�C (1:22 PM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | looks like you could have swum to work today :) |
| 20:28 | @wunder 81212 | |
| 20:28 | munin | pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 24.1�C (2:25 PM MDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:30 | brendan | yeah my back yard has a lot of water in it |
| 20:30 | or on it | |
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| 20:47 | cait | good night #koha :) |
| 20:47 | brendan | night |
| 20:47 | pianohacker | good night, cait |
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| 20:58 | hdl_laptop | night |
| 20:59 | pianohacker | good night, hdl |
| 20:59 | @wunder wellington, nz | |
| 20:59 | munin | pianohacker: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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| 21:15 | Agalloch | I installed the lastest stable version of koha on ubuntu server and have been playing around a bit. For some reason, none of my authority searches seem to be working but everything else is. I rebuilt the indexes a couple times... |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | Agalloch: are you making sure to run rebuild_(no)zebra.pl with the -a flag? |
| 21:15 | Agalloch | yes |
| 21:16 | pianohacker | okay. are you using zebra, or no zebra? |
| 21:16 | Agalloch | zebra |
| 21:17 | pianohacker | ok then, it should be working. does anything pop up in your error logs when you search? |
| 21:18 | Agalloch | I found this page when googling around http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 and tried changing Heading-Main to Heading and rebuilt the indexes again and still no luck. |
| 21:18 | munin | 04Bug 3072: major, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE |
| 21:18 | Agalloch | Should I change it back to Heading-Main? |
| 21:19 | pianohacker | Maybe. It's possible that something else is broken, though |
| 21:20 | Agalloch | 14:18:55-14/10 zebrasrv(3) [request] Search authorities OK 0 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @attr 2=103 @attr "1=_ALLRECORDS" '' |
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| 21:20 | Agalloch | wait that wasnt an error was it |
| 21:21 | pianohacker | doesn't look like it, but zebra can be a bit crypticc |
| 21:21 | are these imported records, or ones added from within koha? | |
| 21:21 | Agalloch | imported |
| 21:22 | i guess i only get an error when i do a specific search. i was getting error 109. either way i get no results though | |
| 21:23 | pianohacker | hmm. could you try running rebuild_zebra from scratch with the -v flag and pasting the results to http://paste.workbuffer.org/ ? |
| 21:23 | Agalloch | can i do it while zebra is running? |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | yes. |
| 21:29 | Agalloch | where will it output to? the screen or some log file? |
| 21:29 | pianohacker | the screen |
| 21:32 | Agalloch | ok it's chugging along |
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| 22:35 | pastebot | "Agalloch" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "rebuilding zebra" (69 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/10 |
| 22:36 | pianohacker | that's interesting, it lists no indexed authority records |
| 22:36 | chris | Records exported: 0 |
| 22:37 | its like you have no authorities | |
| 22:37 | pianohacker | Agalloch: you did import them through bulkauthimport.pl, right? |
| 22:38 | Agalloch | I imported records. Are the authorities imported separately? |
| 22:38 | pianohacker | ahh, yes they are. |
| 22:38 | Agalloch | I guess that would be my problem |
| 22:39 | pianohacker | hmm, I assume you want it to create authority records automatically. I don't know if it can or should do that. |
| 22:39 | I know it can do that for new records entered manually, but not sure about imported records | |
| 22:39 | Agalloch | I dont think our old system will export them |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | Agalloch: what's the system? |
| 22:40 | Agalloch | Pretty much the worst one I've ever seen. Spectrum Winnebago |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | I've heard stories about winnebago. |
| 22:41 | you might try asking for help exporting authorities from winnebago on the list | |
| 22:41 | Agalloch | on the koha list? |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | yes |
| 22:42 | chris | yeah there are few libraries who have come from winnebago |
| 22:42 | Agalloch | Do you have a link to the list handy? |
| 22:43 | chris | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 22:43 | pianohacker | Agalloch: also, take a look at http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]jects/koha-tools/ |
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