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| 00:03 | joetho | whoops, dropped connection. live by the wireless, die by the wireless. If I missed something, jtholensekls.org and I AM curious. |
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| 00:28 | thd | Does anyone think that LibLime fixed something on koha.org in response to recent mailing list discussions? |
| 00:30 | chris_n2: you seem to be a generally careful reader. Do you think that LibLime fixed something on koha.org? | |
| 00:33 | chris_n2 | thd: on phone |
| 00:34 | thd | chris_n2: OK, let me know when you can clarify my question about which I suspect people had not noticed the broken link since May. |
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| 00:35 | pianohacker | thd: my quick look suggest that something has changed |
| 00:36 | thd | pianohacker: what something? |
| 00:36 | pianohacker | the demo links. I'm trying to log in to plone to see if i can get a history of the page, but no luck so far |
| 00:37 | thd | pianohacker: which demo links do you mean? |
| 00:38 | pianohacker | thd: I had thought the front page, but second look suggests no. still looking |
| 00:40 | thd: admitting defeat. have not been watching the web site closely enough to determine what has changed. | |
| 00:41 | chris_n2 | http://koha.org/documentation/link/koha-demos/ |
| 00:41 | by Nicole C. Engard — last modified Feb 10, 2009 06:31 PM This document is licensed under the GPL. | |
| 00:41 | does that answer the question? | |
| 00:42 | http://koha.org/ .... by admin — last modified Jun 29, 2009 12:18 AM | |
| 00:42 | thd, pianohacker: so it looks as though neither page has changed recently | |
| 00:43 | thd | chris_n2: yes you found the right spot to check |
| 00:43 | chris_n2 | I had to log in to see the modification history if that matters |
| 00:43 | thd | chris_n2: their seems to have been some confusion about that on the mailing list and on IRC earlier. |
| 00:45 | chris_n2 | thd: I'm not sure which link nengard referred to that was broken |
| 00:46 | thd | chris_n2: I think that what people were noticing is the demo link in the blue image points to showcase which is where demos had been linked from in Kea until the new Plone website came in May.. |
| 00:47 | I noticed immediately in May and reported the issue on the mailing list. | |
| 00:47 | I do not think that is a bug we want fixed at this point, however. | |
| 00:48 | Yet people seem to have been confused by it on the mailing list and on IRC earlier. | |
| 00:48 | chris_n2 | thd: its a shame that plone shows only what date content was modified and not exactly what content was modified |
| 00:49 | I thought the point at issue was the "New Demo Sites" section on the main-page | |
| 00:50 | thd | I would hate to extend this discussion but under some new subject such as "old bug" correction about the showcase/demo link not being a new change should be identified. |
| 00:50 | chris_n2: Yes the issue is about all the other demo links. | |
| 00:51 | chris_n2: some messages seem to think that there was a partial fix. | |
| 00:51 | ... but as your time stamps show there has been no recent change. | |
| 00:51 | chris_n2 | I saw that and checked the modification dates earlier today, but finally decided the conversation was really not getting anywhere |
| 00:52 | thd | chris_n2: I am sorry for my part in it trying to explain a nuanced position about a remedy. |
| 00:52 | chris_n2 | seems the first order of business is to get organized as that will establish direction and authority to proceed in it |
| 00:53 | thd | chris_n2: I tried to move the discussion in that direction. |
| 00:53 | chris_n2 | thd: no need to apologize |
| 00:54 | thd | chris_n2: I know that I wrote too many messages trying to clarify my previous statement which inspired others. |
| 00:54 | chris_n2: I have no idea how that came to a few insults exchanged with a confused person. | |
| 00:54 | chris_n2 | I agree that we can move too fast (herd mentality could set in), but also think we need to keep a fire under things so we don't stop short of where we need to be |
| 00:55 | pianohacker | thd: such person being ben ide? |
| 00:55 | thd | pianohacker: yes |
| 00:55 | pianohacker | chris_n2: right, want to strike a balance |
| 00:55 | * chris_n2 | would never have thought that... :-\ |
| 00:57 | thd | chris_n2: Many believe that much of the electorate is confused and we are liable to have a foundation now option chosen by the majority which will mean much more discussion about bylaws etc without actually having even an interim foundation home. |
| 00:58 | chris_n2: For that reason above all I have been pressing nengard hard about opening the ballot design process. | |
| 00:59 | chris_n2 | thd: I personally think that the next ballot should not include a "foundation now" option; maybe a "holding organization now and foundation in X months/years" option |
| 01:00 | thd | chris_n2: If you think that then we should discuss it on the mailing list where at least the ballot drafting committee can see the comment. |
| 01:00 | chris_n2 | I think there is a very real possibility that a "foundation now" option could top the vote and we would be stuck with not being able to address the immediate issues anytime soon |
| 01:01 | thd | chris_n2: Yes, I think that is the view of what is likely from most people I have noticed discussing the previous poll on #koha. |
| 01:02 | chris_n2: I worry that your solution for the ballot would not be seen to be quite neutral enough. | |
| 01:03 | chris_n2 | thd: I'll give it some thought over night and see if I can contribute some constructive conversation tomorrow (which will be a much better use of my time as opposed to making exchanges with Ben Ide... :-P) |
| 01:03 | thd: how so? | |
| 01:04 | thd | chris_n2: The danger could be that we should not start by overtly manipulating election outcomes. |
| 01:04 | pianohacker | marshall breeding and lenora oftedahl have been the most vocal about starting a foundation; perhaps talking to them directly about temporary stewardship would give us an idea about the general reasons behind wanting a foundation |
| 01:04 | s/a foundation/a foundation *now*, dammit/ | |
| 01:05 | chris_n2 | pianohacker: fingers still recovering? ;-) |
| 01:05 | pianohacker | chris_n2: ... but still as cranky as ever :) |
| 01:09 | thd | chris_n2: I favour clarifying the options stipulating that an interim holding organisation is only that and does not exclude a foundation later and having a little more text identifying the various options for those who may not recognise that HLT for example was the library for which Koha was first created. |
| 01:10 | pianohacker: your idea is excellent about finding out from those advocating a foundation now option. I have been asking to have a response from advocates for positions on the mailing list but I think that few actually read much of my messages. | |
| 01:11 | I just had a thought about structuring the ballot for foundation options. | |
| 01:12 | chris_n2 | I think that marshal breeding is just what he said in his article: an outside observer (that is not meant in a derogatory fashion) |
| 01:12 | I don't know who lenora oftedahl is | |
| 01:14 | thd | Interim options could be listed as options for an interim foundation now with the aim of having an agreed independent foundation as quickly as it would be possible to agree on any independent foundation option. |
| 01:15 | If that could be explained clearly and succinctly it should capture some foundation now votes for actual foundation now options. | |
| 01:17 | Each interim option could be presented twice: once with a quick move to an independent foundation tied to the selection and the other with the long term intent unspecified at this time. | |
| 01:19 | chris_n2 | thd: I'm sure that all discussion will be taken into consideration when nengard forms the final ballot |
| 01:19 | thd | chris_n2: I like your X months idea but I cannot imagine that a realistic time would seem realistic. |
| 01:20 | chris_n2 | I've got to run and help my 14 year old with a chemistry report... :-) |
| 01:20 | thd | good night chris_n2 |
| 01:21 | chris_n2 | g'night |
| 01:21 | chris_n2 is now known as chris_n2-away | |
| 01:56 | pianohacker | good night, #koha |
| 02:01 | thd | goodnight pianohackr |
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| 02:35 | ricardo | OK. It's WAY past my bed time... I'll go to sleep now. Take care everyone. |
| 02:36 | @later tell chris Hi Chris! I'm planning on sending you the Portuguese PO files (final version) Tuesday evening (in my Time Zone, that is... it will probably be Wednesday noon, for you in NZ) | |
| 02:36 | munin | ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
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| 02:37 | ricardo | @later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri! I'm planning on sending Chris the Portuguese PO files (final version) Tuesday evening (in my Time Zone, that is... it will probably be Wednesday noon, for him in NZ) |
| 02:37 | munin | ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
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| 02:40 | slef | ricardo is in the same time zone as me... WTF is he doing awake? |
| 02:40 | Oh, whoops. | |
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| 03:27 | Amit | hi chris, brendan |
| 03:27 | good morning #koha | |
| 03:28 | brendan | hello Amit |
| 03:28 | how are you doing? | |
| 03:31 | Amit | everything is fine |
| 03:35 | brendan | excellent news Amit |
| 03:49 | thd | rach: are you there? |
| 03:54 | Amit | hi thd |
| 03:54 | thd | hello Amit |
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| 04:20 | SCH | good morning |
| 04:20 | help plz .. | |
| 04:20 | how we can Add new authority | |
| 04:20 | ?? | |
| 04:54 | Amit | hi sch |
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| 05:21 | SCH | hi Amit |
| 05:22 | what this Error : invalid authority typesNot all authority types referred to by the frameworks are defined. | |
| 05:23 | TOTALYou have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha | |
| 05:59 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
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| 06:05 | Ropuch | SCH: you want to add new authority, new athority type or new authorised value? |
| 06:06 | Adding authority is simple: More>Authorities>New Authority | |
| 06:11 | SCH | hi Ropuch |
| 06:12 | i found how to add | |
| 06:12 | ||
| 06:13 | but did u have any idea about this note < TOTALYou have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using Koha> | |
| 06:15 | Ropuch | Yoe've messed with MARC Frameworks? |
| 06:18 | SCH | how that ? |
| 06:21 | Ropuch | Try to run More>Administration>MARC Bibliographic framework test |
| 06:25 | SCH | yess i was try |
| 06:25 | and i found that note | |
| 06:25 | Amit | hi nicomo, ropuch |
| 06:25 | SCH | how can i fix it |
| 06:26 | MARC configuration. Please fix them before using | |
| 06:26 | Ropuch | SCH: do you have any additional info in error message? Framwework code? Tag/field? |
| 06:27 | SCH | just , nvalid authority typesNot all authority types referred to by the frameworks are defined. |
| 06:27 | TOTALYou have 1 error(s) in your MARC configuration. Please fix them before using | |
| 06:28 | Ropuch | Hello Amit [; |
| 06:32 | SCH: I'm afraid I can't help you | |
| 06:33 | SCH | ok , txxx u ;p |
| 06:36 | Ropuch | I could if you'd have an field number in error message ;> |
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| 06:52 | Ropuch | Hello paul_p, greenmang0 |
| 06:52 | greenmang0 | Ropuch: |
| 06:53 | Ropuch | SCH: maybe paul_p can help you, he's faaaaaar more experienced with Koha [; |
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| 06:54 | kf | hi #koha |
| 06:58 | Ropuch | Morning kf |
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| 07:01 | kf | morning Ropuch |
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| 07:05 | kf | Ropuch: I know you told me, what institution you are working for... but I forgot to bookmark the link. :( just remember it had a catalog with German books |
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| 07:12 | Ropuch | http://www.wbz.uni.wroc.pl/ |
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| 07:12 | Ropuch | kf: it's supposed to be have german version in near future |
| 07:12 | Amit | hi kf |
| 07:13 | Ropuch | Old and crapy catalog can be found here: http://sowa.wbz.uni.wroc.pl/sowa-www/sowacgi.php |
| 07:13 | kf | Ropuch: thx :) I keep a list of "German Koha procjects" on one of my wikis |
| 07:14 | Ropuch | And brand-new Koha will be available in december |
| 07:14 | kf | our first library is open now: hfjs.bsz-bw.de - but still some work to do of course |
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| 07:16 | Ropuch | Bookmarked - I'll link to for sure when I finaly get polish-koha-site online |
| 07:16 | [; | |
| 07:17 | Can you provide me with an url of this 'German Koha Projects" list? | |
| 07:18 | kf | its my private wiki - but I can send you the text in an email ? |
| 07:18 | I did not found much so far | |
| 07:19 | hdl_laptop | hi |
| 07:20 | Ropuch | Hi hdl_laptop |
| 07:20 | kf | hi hdl_laptop |
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| 10:14 | kf | lunch time :) |
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| 10:30 | chris_n2-away | breakfast time :-) |
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| 10:52 | kf | back |
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| 11:09 | CGI055 | hey |
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| 11:16 | slef | Afternoon all. I know it's wrong, but owen's PDF comment http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]tober/020669.html did make me chuckle. |
| 11:20 | so BibLibre has gone Evergreen too - what does this mean for Koha? | |
| 11:36 | Amit | hi slef |
| 11:36 | slef | hi Amit |
| 11:37 | hdl_laptop | slef: Koha is still our main focus |
| 11:39 | kf | slef: me too |
| 11:39 | owen++ | |
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| 12:00 | chris_n | slef: git create-pdf |
| 12:01 | slef | chris_n: tell me you're joking |
| 12:02 | * jdavidb | catches up on an interesting weekend in the email lists... |
| 12:02 | chris_n | fortunately so ;-) |
| 12:02 | * chris_n | hands jdavidb a fireproof suit |
| 12:03 | jdavidb | Thanks, chris_n. I was already wearing my asbestos longjohns, because of activity in another non-Koha,non-geekery community. |
| 12:03 | chris_n | lol |
| 12:03 | jdavidb | 350 emails in the last 36 hours. Lordy. That one's a-busy. |
| 12:05 | * chris_n | wanders off to read up on current sensing circuits |
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| 12:26 | * chris_n | tries to imagine slef running around with a club, philosophizing :-) |
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| 12:54 | * chris_n | hits 'send' and ducks under his desk |
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| 12:55 | * jdavidb | thanks chris_n for his latest, though doubtless some will disagree with it. |
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| 12:56 | owen | chris_n++ |
| 12:56 | nengard++ | |
| 12:56 | too! | |
| 12:57 | Or perhaps we should for a committee to consider the question of whether there should be a vote on the ballot design? | |
| 12:57 | jwagner | owen, go stand in the corner right now! |
| 12:57 | Nate | gudmorning all |
| 12:57 | chris_n | hi Nate |
| 12:57 | jwagner | chris_n, if you can still have a smile and a light heart after that weekend blitz, you have my admiration :-) |
| 12:58 | Nate | hi chris_n |
| 12:58 | jdavidb | owen++ #for standing firm on the links thing, and not getting distracted from that central issue. |
| 12:59 | chris_n | jwagner: sometimes attitude and spirit are very hard to express in an email, and it bears overstating at times with the hope of clarity |
| 13:00 | schuster | Question about groups - anybody here using them to group a location for searching purposes? Admin setup stuff. |
| 13:00 | My question is this - after you setup a group do you need to reindex or anything? | |
| 13:00 | owen | schuster: I wasn't even aware until recently that groups actually *did* anything! :) |
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| 13:01 | schuster | I setup a group but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. - Yes I didn't think it did anything either, but Paul and HDL seem to think it works for them... |
| 13:03 | owen | schuster: What do you mean when you say it's not doing anything? |
| 13:04 | Returning no results, or returning unlimited results? | |
| 13:04 | schuster | My search results only return the original results of location A but isn't including location B as if groups isn't activated |
| 13:05 | owen | So a search limited to location A looks the same as a search limited to the group containing A and B? |
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| 13:11 | schuster | Yes as far as I can tell nothing from B shows up in addition to A stuff. |
| 13:12 | nengard | thanks owen - i didn't feel like i deserved ++ |
| 13:12 | schuster | sorry this weekend was a wash for me so I missed all the fireworks... No matter what nengard is a gem no matter what people may have said. |
| 13:12 | owen | You get a ++ for standing up to the committee |
| 13:13 | nengard | thanks schuster and owen |
| 13:13 | schuster | Was this all on discuss, devel or on IRC? |
| 13:13 | nengard | i forget where it was - and it was this morning that Nicole lost her patience |
| 13:14 | schuster | Too early for that! ;) snuggle with a dog for a few minutes if you can it will make you feel better. |
| 13:15 | nengard | hehe - I was watching them play for a while and that put a smile on my face - I love how Beau runs into Coda like a bull and knocks her on her back - it's just too cutre |
| 13:15 | cute | |
| 13:15 | owen | Trying to test biblibre_integration, getting "Can't locate Lingua/Stem/Snowball.pm in @INC" when I search. That one's new to me. |
| 13:16 | jdavidb | nengard++ # just for being nengard, even if she is a dog owner instead of a cat's property. ;-) |
| 13:16 | nengard | http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157603415365540/ |
| 13:16 | kf | :) |
| 13:17 | nengard | jdavidb - don't fool yourself I'm the property of 2 dogs - there is no owner here :) hehe |
| 13:17 | and the picture was obviously not this AM - but still the same general idea | |
| 13:17 | jdavidb | Dogs have owners. Cats have staff. Ferrets have playmates! |
| 13:17 | magnusenger | nengard: :-) |
| 13:19 | nengard | owen - there are snowballs in koha? |
| 13:22 | schuster | nengard you beat me to it - I moved to Texas to get away from snowballs! |
| 13:23 | nengard | schuster i don't know what's worse - the snowballs here - or the heat/droughts/rains in TX |
| 13:23 | schuster | no drought right now! TONS of rain. Hopefully that will carry us for awhile! |
| 13:23 | * jdavidb | used to try to make snowballs out of the slushy-sleety stuff we got once or twice a year in Abilene, with mixed success. |
| 13:24 | schuster | Mixed at best you always ended up with mushy grass and gravel! oo that hurts. |
| 13:24 | jwagner | jdavidb, you can look forward to at least a few snowfalls in Maryland this winter. Of course, everything will melt off within a couple of days. Call this winter??? Sneers someone who was raised in the snow belt.... |
| 13:24 | jdavidb | B'zacly! They were not terribly coherent, but if you got someone with 'em, you got 'em good. |
| 13:25 | jwagner: The stuff we got in TX was usually gone within a couple of *hours*. I'm looking forward to a little bit of Real Snow(tm). | |
| 13:26 | owen | hdl_laptop around? |
| 13:26 | jwagner | So long as you don't have to shovel it, right? |
| 13:26 | jdavidb | Got it in one, jwagner. |
| 13:26 | hdl_laptop | owen: yes |
| 13:27 | owen | Do you understand this error? "Can't locate Lingua/Stem/Snowball.pm in @INC" |
| 13:27 | I'm trying to test biblibre_integration | |
| 13:27 | toins | owen : perl -MCPAN -e "install 'Lingua::Stem::Snowbal'" |
| 13:27 | owen | So it's a new dependency? |
| 13:28 | chris_n | lol |
| 13:28 | toins | i don't think it's new |
| 13:29 | slef | chris_n: did I write something funny? |
| 13:29 | * slef | looks at email |
| 13:29 | owen | toins: I'm usually testing HEAD, so if it was a dependency before I don't understand why I'm getting the error now |
| 13:29 | hdl_laptop | owen: "new" if you are using stemming. |
| 13:30 | But it was introduced by a patch there is quite a long time ago | |
| 13:31 | chris_n | slef: nothing you wrote; I find it funny that we have a snowball dependency and wonder how long it will last |
| 13:31 | slef | chris_n: I meant the club/philosophising bit |
| 13:32 | chris_n | ahh... |
| 13:32 | slef | chris_n: I think the snowball dependency will last until it gets warm somewhere |
| 13:32 | chris_n | slef: there was a response to your post to that effect |
| 13:34 | slef: Kyle's reply to your post on open source ballot design | |
| 13:34 | slef | chris_n: oic. I prefer "Nasty, British and Short" (cf Hobbs) |
| 13:35 | nengard | chris_n just read your reply - thank you :) |
| 13:35 | now I'm off to teach FL librarians about open source and how wonderful it and the communities around it are | |
| 13:35 | ttyl | |
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| 13:41 | hdl_laptop | owen : about YUI dependencies has it been updated to 2.6 or 2.8 ? |
| 13:41 | owen | hdl_laptop: No |
| 13:42 | hdl_laptop | I have a problem with CircAutoCompl wich generates Yahoo errors. |
| 13:42 | owen | There have been no changes to the YUI core files (as far as I know) |
| 13:43 | That suggests something has changed in the way CircAutoCompl works | |
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| 14:05 | tomascohen | hi, do anyone have some info on reports plugin infrastructure? |
| 14:06 | i have a few hours this week | |
| 14:06 | to spend on making some reports adding jqplot for some sugar | |
| 14:20 | anyone? a useful google query? | |
| 14:21 | owen | tomascohen: I'm not an expert, but I don't think there is a "plugin infrastructure" for reports |
| 14:22 | You can build a standalone report, or you can generate your own with the guided reports. | |
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| 14:22 | joetho | http://etherealmind.com/networ[…]hone-attenuation/ |
| 14:22 | tomascohen | i found code in manage.pl and 2 report-name.plugin files |
| 14:23 | that looks like a sort of plugin infrastructure | |
| 14:25 | owen: when you create a standalone report you have to manually add a link to it | |
| 14:25 | owen | Yes |
| 14:26 | tomascohen | I thought perhaps manage.pl could be used to automaticaly add the plugin to the page |
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| 14:31 | * owen | is pleased to see some good questions about vendor lock-in on the Liblime-users list |
| 14:34 | did some muck-stirring | |
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| 14:45 | wizzyrea | lol no joke. seriously |
| 14:46 | paul_p | muck stirring ? |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | stirring up the muddy waters of the koha list |
| 14:47 | paul_p | s/koha list/LL customer list/ isn't it ? |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | a little of both |
| 14:47 | paul_p | (good morning wizzyrea & owen & other american ppl |
| 14:47 | ) | |
| 14:47 | owen | I'm referring specifically to the LL customer list |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | good morning paul_p |
| 14:47 | owen | If there is any hope of communication from LibLime I think that's where it's going to be |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | truth |
| 14:48 | unfortunately we've been asked to keep all that crap private to that list | |
| 14:48 | jdavidb | Morning, paul_p, and wizzyrea. :) |
| 14:48 | paul_p | wizzyrea: "asked" or "must-do" ? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | not that I'm feeling especially compelled ot comply |
| 14:48 | s/ot/to | |
| 14:49 | owen | "asked," but I'm sure many libraries would fear some sort of retaliation if they didn't comply |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | yes, there is much fear of retaliation |
| 14:51 | paul_p | owen: with the tone you have on koha public ML owen, i don't know what kind of retaliation you fear :D |
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| 14:52 | tomascohen | what do u think of making reports-home.pl expose installed report plugins sorting them with a to-be-defined self-defined category hierachy? |
| 14:52 | owen | I'm not afraid of retaliation (although I think it's possible), so I feel I have a responsibility to speak up. |
| 14:53 | nicomo | man, who would've tought we'll see the word "retaliation" written in the #koha channel |
| 14:53 | that's just depressing | |
| 14:54 | owen | Luckily it's hypothetical at this point, but the chilling effect is real. |
| 14:54 | nicomo | chilling and depressing, right |
| 14:58 | joetho | wizzyrea- my other channel just died. AGAIN. |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | do what now>? |
| 14:58 | dk dude | |
| 14:58 | joetho | I'll email it |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | ah ok |
| 15:04 | schuster | David B you still hanging around here? |
| 15:04 | jdavidb | a-yup. Whazzup, schuster? |
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| 15:25 | chris_n | owen++ #for muck-stirring |
| 15:26 | jdavidb | @karma owen |
| 15:26 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "owen" has been increased 58 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 56. |
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| 15:48 | * chris_n | ducks again |
| 15:49 | chris_n | after pressing 'send' that is |
| 15:50 | nengard | chris_n do i even want to open my email? |
| 15:50 | jdavidb | chris_n++ |
| 15:52 | chris_n | nengard: it will be ok, I think... I hope... ;-) |
| 15:52 | jdavidb | nengard: chris_n once again lauded your abilities to Do The Right Thing on the ballot. |
| 15:52 | nengard | email read |
| 15:53 | as i said earlier - i'm all for just having 1 question at this point - which group do we join? | |
| 15:53 | and then later we can work on the other questions - but i'm not sure i'm allowed to make that executive decision | |
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| 15:57 | chris_n | there is a fundamental issue at hand which runs parallel to the current issues and will continue after they have passed |
| 15:57 | that is the issue of supporting those in whom we vest authority and leadership | |
| 15:58 | if that issue does not survive the immediate crisis, then the community and project are hopelessly lost imho | |
| 15:58 | hdl_laptop | nengard president ;) |
| 15:58 | chris_n | hehe |
| 15:58 | jwagner | chris_n++ for cutting to the chase |
| 15:58 | * hdl_laptop | votes for nengard as Koha's Nobel Prize |
| 15:58 | nengard | awwwww |
| 15:58 | how sweet | |
| 15:59 | * chris_n | thinks she deserves it more than someone else who I know who got it recently |
| 15:59 | chris_n | opps.... did I say that? |
| 16:02 | * chris_n | heads out to find food |
| 16:03 | slef | come on, you know he encouraged peace more in the few days between taking office and being nominated than the previous guy did in 8 years |
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| 16:04 | slef | nengard: I think I'm for having two questions: What do we join now? (existing groups or none) What is our medium-term aim? (new, existing groups or none) |
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| 16:04 | nengard | slef - i can do that |
| 16:04 | if you answer existing groups to #1 I present you with the groups we have picked | |
| 16:05 | if you pick none then it's a 1 question survey | |
| 16:05 | paul_p | hdl_laptop: ++ |
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| 16:05 | slef | nengard: I think I meant a list of the existing groups suggested by project members... although maybe SFC's multimonth waiting list means they're not a "now" option? |
| 16:05 | nengard | first lunch and then I'll put together the 2 question survey - then later we cna do the detailed one |
| 16:06 | OH - yeah - i understand now that i re-read - slef I can do that too | |
| 16:06 | * nengard | lunching |
| 16:07 | slef | I should finish up here, got to be out of the door, but I may return later to crunch numbers on koha.org part 1 and my current kewstoke.org project |
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| 16:23 | * nengard | back |
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| 16:28 | rhcl | RE: Foundation... |
| 16:28 | I think I would find it most helpful if there was a quick summary available - say 5 succinct bullet points summarizing/comparing/contrasting SPI/HLT et al | |
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| 16:35 | owen | rhcl: Everyone was supposed to have done a little bit of reading prior to this ballot |
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| 16:43 | rhcl | Owen: as I have, still, it would be good to see if another analysis of the main points would agree with mine. Additionally, except for Jo's and Chris' comments in the IRC meeting, info for HTL is lacking, particularly there official position on the subject if anyone has breached the topic with them. |
| 16:43 | sed s/there/their | |
| 16:43 | slef | rhcl: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]aheldbyfoundation |
| 16:43 | rhcl | sed s/HTL/HLT -d |
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| 16:45 | rhcl | slef: amazing. Thanks. |
| 16:46 | slef | rhcl: a few of the columns could do with more links, to either Jo's IRC or emails or something more |
| 16:46 | I'm afk for 180+ | |
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| 18:09 | brendan | morning |
| 18:09 | sekjal | good morning, brendan |
| 18:10 | brendan | hi sekjal |
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| 18:20 | wizzyrea | you all may be geeky enough to appreciate this: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=7831 |
| 18:20 | * wizzyrea | loves this kind of stuff |
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| 18:30 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 18:30 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (11:27 AM PDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect for recent burn areas from 8 am PDT this morning through Wednesday morning... |
| 18:30 | ricardo | Hi #koha "Idlers"!... as "Mibbit" - http://www.mibbit.com/chat/ -calls you. ;-) |
| 18:30 | brendan | yeah rain here! |
| 18:30 | ricardo | @wunder lisbon |
| 18:30 | munin | ricardo: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:31 | ricardo | @wunder lisbon, portugal |
| 18:31 | munin | ricardo: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 29.0�C (7:00 PM WEST on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:31 | ricardo | Pressure rising... This should be caused by the eminent release of Koha 3.0.4 ;-) |
| 18:36 | schuster | @wunder Plano texas |
| 18:36 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 18.7�C (1:35 PM CDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... |
| 18:36 | schuster | I LOVE IT! Crooked Lane! HA! |
| 18:37 | ricardo | ehehe |
| 18:37 | schuster | Too much rain here - ready for it to stop I feel like I'm in Portland OR... not a bad place but just too much rain. |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66047 |
| 18:38 | munin | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 6.6�C (1:38 PM CDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | brrrr |
| 18:39 | * wizzyrea | is not ready for that kind of weather |
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| 18:42 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 18:42 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 25.0�C (2:20 PM EDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:42 | * chris_n | wonders why he has to sit inside in that kind of weather |
| 18:43 | owen | @wunder 45764 |
| 18:43 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 12.8�C (2:37 PM EDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:47 | ricardo | I'm going home now... Take care everyone! I hope to be back in 2 hours or so |
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| 19:23 | Ropuch | Good evening |
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| 19:30 | richard | hi |
| 19:41 | Ropuch | Hello |
| 19:42 | * chris_n | marvels at how time flies |
| 19:44 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 19:44 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.1�C (12:42 PM PDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect for recent burn areas from 8 am PDT this morning through Wednesday morning... |
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| 19:45 | brendan | yup the rain is here :) --- coming down pretty hard for here |
| 19:46 | Ropuch | I've just managed to add custom link "Search for this title in" (thanks to Owen article), and convert koha utf8 title into iso8859-2 in it without touching .pl or .tmpl |
| 19:46 | I'm so proud | |
| 19:46 | ! | |
| 19:46 | [; | |
| 19:46 | Hi brendan, chris_n | |
| 19:47 | brendan | hi Ropuch |
| 19:47 | owen | That's great Ropuch. Note that in 3.2 you'll be able to set a system preference for your "search for this title in" links instead of having to resort to js hacks |
| 19:47 | brendan | great job Ropuch |
| 19:47 | hey owen | |
| 19:48 | Ropuch | owen: messing with opacuserjss was no that big deal thanks to your article, converting utf was a pain ;> |
| 19:49 | I've done this quick&dirty way: i'm calling local hosted php with rawurlencoed(iconv..) cia xmlhttprequest ;> | |
| 19:49 | /s/cia/via | |
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| 21:02 | mitja_i | anybody here? |
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| 22:50 | ricardo | Hi all |
| 22:50 | pianohackr|work | hello, ricardo |
| 22:50 | ricardo | pianohackr|work: Hi Jesse! |
| 22:51 | pianohackr|work | how's translation and whatnot going? |
| 22:52 | ricardo | pianohackr|work: Going relatively well,thanks. I hope to submit it to chris in a hour or so |
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| 23:27 | brendan | hi ricardo pianohacker|work |
| 23:27 | pianohackr|work | hi, brendan |
| 23:27 | ricardo | Hi brendan ! :) |
| 23:27 | brendan | err Jesse |
| 23:27 | @wunder 93117 | |
| 23:27 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (4:23 PM PDT on October 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 2 am PDT Wednesday... |
| 23:27 | brendan | wind means big waves :) |
| 23:28 | going to see if I can borrow somebody's surf board for tomorrow morning :) | |
| 23:28 | pianohackr|work | wow. is the humidity normally that high? |
| 23:29 | brendan | no -- but it is raining - so that must be why |
| 23:29 | we haven't had rain in a bunch of months | |
| 23:29 | most of the mountain roads are closed -- erosion from all the fires we had | |
| 23:30 | so the people who houses survived the fires are being evacuated now | |
| 23:30 | pianohackr|work | aren't they got a deal on mountainside property |
| 23:31 | brendan | yup |
| 23:31 | pianohackr|work | *they glad |
| 23:31 | *they glad they | |
| 23:31 | brendan | heh |
| 23:31 | * pianohackr|work | just hands in his keyboard |
| 23:31 | brendan | got one of those voice recorders |
| 23:32 | whoops get not got | |
| 23:32 | * brendan | hands in his keyboard too |
| 23:33 | pianohackr|work | if they've improved over the past few years... I remember shouting in frustration at dragon naturallyspeaking (which, of course, only makes things worse) |
| 23:37 | brendan | yeah --- I haven't tried dragon in quiet a while |
| 23:37 | worked excellent for my grandfather | |
| 23:38 | but i think he actually spent all the time to properly set it up | |
| 23:38 | pianohackr|work | hah! |
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